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Speaker 2: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday. We have an amazing show for everybody today.

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Speaker 2: What do we have, Crystal, Indeed, we do.

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Speaker 3: It's a big day, guys.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of exclusive polling that we commissioned

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Speaker 1: here at Breaking Points that's going to look at Americans'

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Speaker 1: views of Israel and Palestine. And we have a special

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Speaker 1: lens of how people view this conflict depending on where

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Speaker 1: they get their news from. Yes, which is very interesting

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Speaker 1: and obviously very relevant given the conversation about TikTok, etc.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to break those down.

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Speaker 1: We also have the continued crackdown on campus protesters and

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Speaker 1: a few hoaxes that have emerged.

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Speaker 3: Amidst all of that.

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Speaker 1: You've also got a bipartisan effort to further censor speech

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Speaker 3: So that's great. We'll get into all of that.

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Speaker 1: Also, incredibly consequential oral hearings at oral arguments at the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court last week taking a look at whether Trump

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Speaker 1: should be immune for any official acts during his presidency,

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Speaker 1: and big question marks about what this is going to

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Speaker 1: mean for Jacksmith's January sixth case in particular against Trump,

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Speaker 1: so we'll break that down for you. We also have

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Speaker 1: Trump now taking aim at RFK Junior after some polls

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Speaker 1: taking more votes away from Trump, so he seems like

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Speaker 1: Yahoo and some of his compatriots, the US getting involved there,

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Speaker 1: and we also have some exclusive poll numbers that we

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Speaker 1: apparently murdered a puppy, So got to break that down

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Speaker 3: She got at least that's literally the case.

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Speaker 1: She wrote about it in her book Created I would

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Speaker 1: And you know, she was a top contender for Trump

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that. And I'm taking a.

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Speaker 1: Look at the horrific spectacle of the White House Correspondence

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm very glad that you're doing that. Can't it's

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Speaker 3: Boy, did they ever deserve it this time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: Before we get to that, thank you to everybody who

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Speaker 1: Cable News as we go through these is a bit

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Speaker 1: at any of these universities we have up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: We've got Arizona State, We've got Indiana, Washington University, Northeastern

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Speaker 1: University just says Austin. I guess that's ut Austin again,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State University. So you can see the arrests escalated

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Speaker 1: at Arizona State. If you pay attention to an upper

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Speaker 1: left box there, that's actually frat boys who were apparently

443
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Speaker 1: like collaborating with the cops to destroy tents, which is

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Speaker 1: oursorry ASU. One of the most ASU things I've ever

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Speaker 1: heard in my life. But you know, some of these

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Speaker 1: arrasts were quite violent. There were also reports at Ohio

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Speaker 1: States Hour. Did you see this snipers? I did see

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Speaker 1: that being placed on top of the buildings.

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Speaker 2: For no consequence either, by the way, which was hilarious

450
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Speaker 2: because it turned out that one of the students was

451
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Speaker 2: actually able to sneak up on said police sniper, right,

452
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Speaker 2: which somebody pointed out, like, dude, that's one of the

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Speaker 2: most basic tenets of being a sniper is not allowing

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Speaker 2: somebody to snap on the higher so anyway, militarily.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, highly trained, What are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: You know, for what purpose is that? Crowd control is

457
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Speaker 2: one different thing. Enforcing local ordinance or whatever about people

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Speaker 2: who are unlawfully gathered again, but putting people up on

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Speaker 2: a rooftop. I have only ever seen that in one

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Speaker 2: instances because I live here in Washington, DC and whenever

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Speaker 2: it's the President is out and about. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: it anywhere else in the entire United States. So did

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Speaker 2: I saw that clip? And I was like, it just

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Speaker 2: clownish on several levels, because A it's ridiculous, like in

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Speaker 2: terms of short force, and B it didn't even work. Dude, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you got snuck up on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's complete insanity, and I put a fourteen

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Speaker 1: actually up on the screen.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 1: So apparently two hundred at least protesters were arrested over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, in particular Northeastern University, Arizona State, Indiana University,

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Speaker 1: and Washington University in Saint Louis. They say there have

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Speaker 1: been more than eight hundred arrests of protesters on US

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Speaker 1: campuses since April eighteenth, That was when Columbia University initially

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Speaker 1: had that crackdown. This map we can see up on

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Speaker 1: the screen. This show you the way these protests are spreading.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I was kind of I was very pleasantly

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Speaker 1: surprised to see that University of Mary Washington, which is

479
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Speaker 1: very close to where I live in Fredericksburg, Virginia, is

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Speaker 1: not a large school and it's not like it's a

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Speaker 1: liberal arts college, but it's not like an elite Columbia

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Speaker 1: type university. Apparently they had protests and there were arrests

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Speaker 1: that took place. You also had Virginia techs or I'm

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Speaker 1: showing my Virginia bias, but you could see these protests

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Speaker 1: are literally cross the country, and so that crackdown and

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Speaker 1: the focus on the Columbia protesters, if it was meant

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Speaker 1: to snuff out the flame and scare students out of

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Speaker 1: protesting what they see as a genocide being committed with

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Speaker 1: our tax dollars in the Gaza strip, it has had

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Speaker 1: the polar opposite reaction. And actually I saw something that

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Speaker 1: was really quite beautiful, which is a number of Palestinians

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Speaker 1: in Gaza staging a demonstration writing on their refugee displacement

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Speaker 1: tense messages of solidarity and appreciation for the Columbia Diversity

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Speaker 1: students in particular for standing up for them, which was

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Speaker 1: kind of incredible and I'm sure very heartening for these

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Speaker 1: students who are, you know, trying their best to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to make a difference in the world. Let's

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Speaker 1: go ahead and go back to A eight, which shows

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Speaker 1: you some of the aggressive tactics that are being used here.

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Speaker 1: You can see this the elder woman Jill Stein, the

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Speaker 1: white hair there being aggressive, like I would say, assaulted

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Speaker 1: with a police bike there. She was arrested. Okay, you

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Speaker 1: saw the interaction. She was arrested and charged with assault

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Speaker 1: of a police officer. Again, seventy three year old. Whatever

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Speaker 1: you think of her, she is a presidential candidate, and

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Speaker 1: the Green Party is you know, it's a significant organization,

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Speaker 1: they're likely to have ballid access, and she's being treated

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Speaker 1: in this manner, Soger, It's completely outrageous. At the same time,

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Speaker 1: speaking of outrageous, we have new bipartisan effort that was

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Speaker 1: just launched in the House and can put this up

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Speaker 1: on this pro Israel House Democrat and Republican plan to

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Speaker 1: introduce a legislation creating federally sanctioned anti semitism monitors for

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Speaker 1: select college campuses. This is who else, Ritchie Torres and

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Speaker 1: Republican also from New York, Mike Lawler. The bill would

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Speaker 1: allow the Department of Education to send a third party

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Speaker 1: anti semitism monitor to any college that receives federal funding,

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Speaker 1: and to revoke that funding for colleges that don't comply.

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Speaker 1: The monitor, which would be paid for by the school,

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Speaker 1: would be charged with releasing a public quarterly report evaluating

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Speaker 1: the progress that a college or university has made toward

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Speaker 1: combating anti semitism. Now, obviously I abhor anti semitism and

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Speaker 1: any type of racism, but we also know the way

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Speaker 1: that these people have consistently defined anti semitism as anything

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Speaker 1: that basically they don't like when it comes to criticism

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Speaker 1: of Israel. It's wrong think when it comes to Israel.

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Speaker 1: So the idea of codifying this at a federal level.

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Speaker 3: I mean, saga.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the most aggressive attempts I've seen

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Speaker 1: to have an overt attack on the First Amendment officially

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Speaker 1: sanctioned on college campuses.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: No, this is pretty crazy because what it does is

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Speaker 2: it actually institutes the Department of Education and says says

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Speaker 2: to them that they have to create quote third party

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Speaker 2: anti semitism monitors paid for by the US government, that

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Speaker 2: will then go and analyze each college that receives federal

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Speaker 2: funding and then revoking funding for colleges that don't apply.

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Speaker 2: That monitor again, would actually be charged with quote releasing

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Speaker 2: a public quarterly report evaluating progress that a college or

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Speaker 2: university has made towards combating anti semitism. And what it

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Speaker 2: would do is redefine anti semitism in the same way

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Speaker 2: that previous resolutions of Congress have passed. Now, let's be

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Speaker 2: very clear about that, because that actually directly conflates as

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Speaker 2: previous governmental definitions of anti semitism exist, criticism of the

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Speaker 2: state of Israel with anti Semitism itself. And that is

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Speaker 2: why I almost just refuse to fall for the canard

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Speaker 2: at this point of like I have poor anti systemisms,

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Speaker 2: like yeah, of course, but at a certain point, like

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Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna play these people's games anymore, because

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Speaker 2: if you're going to use that definition, then I'm not playing.

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Speaker 2: It's like, at that point, I'm just gonna say I

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Speaker 2: believe very strongly in the First Amendment. What I would

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Speaker 2: like to see is a First Amendment monitor which actually

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Speaker 2: goes to each campus and revokes federal funding from anyone

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Speaker 2: which is directly in violation of a Supreme Court definition

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Speaker 2: for federal funding. That seems like a lot more reasonable

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Speaker 2: to me. But of course they're not doing that. They're

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Speaker 2: actually moving into more censorious direction. And I would just say,

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Speaker 2: again to any right wingers, I mean trying to make

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Speaker 2: this point more recently, if Trump wins again, do you

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Speaker 2: know how many college Republicans are going to be called

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Speaker 2: anti Semitic or any of these other groups. Do you

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Speaker 2: think they're not going to use this against other student

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Speaker 2: groups that they don't want they're on campus, And even

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Speaker 2: if they are anti Semitic, that is legally within the

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Speaker 2: bounds of the First Amendment, which I stand for. I know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's a good thing. You know, I

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Speaker 2: don't love seeing it march on campus. But I guess

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Speaker 2: I've said this before. I've seen straight up like Christian

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Speaker 2: nationalists psychos march on my campus when I was in college,

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Speaker 2: and nobody really cared much at that time.

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Speaker 1: So to that point, ye this, I think this weekend

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Speaker 1: or last week in Charleston, West Virginia, there was a

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Speaker 1: group of out and out neo Nazis marching down the

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Speaker 1: streets of Charleston.

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Speaker 3: Went to Okay, fine, yeah, fine, the cops didn't get involved.

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Speaker 1: They did their disgusting thing, and everyone moved on. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I find them abhorrent and disgusting, and

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Speaker 1: I still support their right, yeah, to be there under

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Speaker 1: the first event everyone, because that's what the First Amendment is, Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's not for the speech that you love and you're

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Speaker 1: comfy with and is friendly for the establishment. It's for

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Speaker 1: the speech you find offensive. It's for the speech that

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Speaker 1: is controversial. It's for the speech that you know, in

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Speaker 1: the case of the Palistine protesters, that challenges powers that

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Speaker 1: be and the status quo.

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Speaker 3: So I love your idea.

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Speaker 1: Someone needs to take that at the first Amendment monitors

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Speaker 1: on college campuses. That's a great frickin' idea. Some ilhan

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Speaker 1: Omar or whoever. I need to get on that because

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Speaker 1: that would really make it very difficult for all these

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Speaker 1: people who claim to be free speech bros. When it

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Speaker 1: was their side of the equation that they felt was

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Speaker 1: being censored. Now you're jumping on board with a fit

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Speaker 1: using the power of the federal government to quash legitimate

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Speaker 1: criticism of US funding and involvement in a foreign conflict,

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Speaker 1: Like what are what are we doing? It's it's such

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Speaker 1: complete insanity. And I guarantee you if it was if

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Speaker 1: it was anything else, you know, if it was certainly

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Speaker 1: like the trans bigotry monitor on campus, you would be

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Speaker 1: you would be right there and listen to do the

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Speaker 1: flip sid I'm sure there are people who would have

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Speaker 1: supported the transbigotry monitor who are involved in the protest

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Speaker 1: now are supportive of the protests, who have a.

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Speaker 3: Problem with this.

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Speaker 1: How about we just all learned the lesson that we

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Speaker 1: protect free speech even when it's things that we specifically

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Speaker 1: in our political ideology disagree with. Okay, so that's that

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Speaker 1: incredible things were happening at Northeastern University over the weekend.

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Speaker 1: The Daily Beast with a rare w here exposing what

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Speaker 1: was an incredible hoax basically that unfolded. Put this up

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Speaker 1: on the screen, so their headline says it all a

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Speaker 1: pro Israel agitator shouts kill the Jews and gets everyone

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Speaker 1: else arrested.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So there were pro.

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Speaker 1: Palestine protesters at Northeastern, as at many other college campuses.

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Speaker 3: They were doing their thing.

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Speaker 1: Someone within Israeli flag shows up and tried to incite

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Speaker 1: the group and start a chant that said kill the Jews. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is a counter protester. This isn't on the

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Speaker 1: Palestine side, this is on the Israeli side. They say,

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Speaker 1: killed the Jews as a provocation. Then Northeastern uses the

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Speaker 1: excuse of the pro Israel's killed the Jews provocation to

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Speaker 1: have one hundred pace full protesters arrested on Saturday. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna show you just to tell you that this, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way it happened is the way that I'm describing.

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Speaker 3: There was there were reporters.

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Speaker 1: There was an NPR reporter there who confirmed it, and

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Speaker 1: we also have video of the incident. Now I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: play the video. It's a little bit hard to discern,

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Speaker 1: so I'm just gonna describe what happens.

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Speaker 3: Then well we'll watch it.

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Speaker 1: But you see them sort of gathered the you know,

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Speaker 1: pro palace time people, and then you hear this individual

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Speaker 1: with an Israeli flag say kill the Jews, trying to

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Speaker 1: get that chance started, and everyone booze him and then

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Speaker 1: moves on to the chance that they actually wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to how this unfolded.

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Speaker 6: Okay, kill the.

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Speaker 7: Jews, anybody, don't anybody, So there you go.

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Speaker 1: This individual shows up, tries to cause trouble, gets booed,

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Speaker 1: and everybody moves on. But this is used as the

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Speaker 1: pretext to arrest everyone. When confronted with this set of facts,

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Speaker 1: here was the response from a Northeastern University spokesperson. Put

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Speaker 1: this up on the screen. The fact that the phrase

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Speaker 1: kill the Jews was shouted on our campus is not

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Speaker 1: in dispute. The Boston Globe, a trusted news organization, reported

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Speaker 1: it is a fact. There's also substantial video evidence any

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Speaker 1: suggestion that repulsive anti Semitic comments are sometimes acceptable, depending

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Speaker 1: on the context is reprehensible. That language has no place

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Speaker 1: on any university campus. Okay, but you didn't even arrest

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Speaker 1: the dude who said killed the Jews. You rested the

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Speaker 1: people who booed him, Like I mean, it's just it's

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Speaker 1: so preposterous. But this is very emblematic of a lot

655
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Speaker 1: of what is on I'm not saying there aren't any

656
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: bad concidents, and you know, things that you shouldn't say

657
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Speaker 1: or I wouldn't say, or whatever.

658
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Speaker 3: But this was huge.

659
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Speaker 1: This was spread everywhere. That's not going to get picked

660
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: up by all kinds of beet. They're chanting kill the

661
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Speaker 1: Jews in college camps. No, some pro Israel person came

662
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Speaker 1: in as an agitator and enchanted it and got booed

663
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Speaker 1: because you know what, many of the organizers and demonstrators

664
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Speaker 1: are themselves Jewish, which is always buried and erased by

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Speaker 1: all of the mainstream media coverage.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I also just want to presuppose this question.

667
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Speaker 2: Why should any want to be arrested for saying this?

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Speaker 8: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Is that a violet?

670
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Speaker 3: Thank you?

671
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Speaker 2: I checked again. That is totally within the bounds of

672
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Speaker 2: the first you know, people get angry whenever I say

673
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Speaker 2: things like this, like, that's clearly an incitement of violence.

674
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Speaker 2: It brushes up but against It's like, no, it's not

675
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Speaker 2: unless it's actually literally quite targeted to an individual. You

676
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: were allowed to say basically whatever you want in this country,

677
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Speaker 2: as I think you should. I don't think people should

678
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Speaker 2: be arrested for shouting quote unquote kill the Jews on

679
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Speaker 2: a college campus, even if they were saying it in

680
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Speaker 2: earnest and of the although, of course, and I will

681
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Speaker 2: just just please apply it's not my law. I've stole

682
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: it for many others. If something seems quote unquote too

683
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: good to be true, it usually is. If your pro

684
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Speaker 2: israel I saw Ted Cruz is putting this out there,

685
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: there's no ambiguity. This is what they're shouting. It's like,

686
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 2: just have a moment of self reflection, dude, because I

687
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 2: think about it too. Every time. It's the other way,

688
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: you know, anytime some narrative just seems too convenient for

689
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: the right, it's like perfectly on the nose. I'm like,

690
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, maybe could be a little bit something, and

691
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 2: without fail, if you wait twenty four hours, it will

692
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: usually fall apart. And everybody who spread it initially looks

693
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: like an idiot. You know that's it's almost certainly. And

694
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: in these highly charged scenarios, people have every incentive in

695
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Speaker 2: the world to make things up, to instigate. Think back

696
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 2: to the swastika, you know, anecdote that I've re laid here. Yeah,

697
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: back to the racism once. You know how many instances

698
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Speaker 2: of quote unquote racism on college campuses. The girls they

699
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Speaker 2: got bullshit.

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Speaker 3: The girl they got stabbed in the eye.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that we stabbed in the eye.

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Speaker 1: I lived literally like brushed up against her with the

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Speaker 1: Pealestinian flag and.

704
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Speaker 2: These going down all directions. Yeah, I lived through these

705
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Speaker 2: here in d C. I remember when I was in Cosrok,

706
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 2: women are being attired for wearing a burkup bullshit. It

707
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: was completely made up. Instance. While we were in DC,

708
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 2: complete moral panic. The police were called, hundreds of millions

709
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: of dollars were spent, like putting police officers on corners.

710
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Speaker 2: She made the entire thing up. I mean, it's like

711
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 2: with every single time, people have every incentive, media attention,

712
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: and you know, in this case, to smear others. This

713
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: has happened so many times. Agent provocateurs, we know that

714
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Speaker 2: they exist. Just just be weary. But I'm just going

715
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: to come back to almost our initial plot, Crystal, our

716
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: initial block, which is, if you live on the Internet,

717
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Speaker 2: and if you live in the world of just Smollett,

718
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: and you know every instance that I just described, you

719
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: should you probably have this more baked in. But if

720
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Speaker 2: you live in the cable world, how often do you

721
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Speaker 2: hear like the Justy Smalllett thing dever send mec people

722
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Speaker 2: even know that that turned out to be BS because

723
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Speaker 2: they just stopped covering it, like the moment that it

724
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: turned out to be fake. Maybe one or two segments

725
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: same thing on the right wing? How many of these

726
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 2: things that get played? I was just looking Laura Ingram

727
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 2: apparently interviewed this woman that stabbed in the eye lady

728
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Speaker 2: three separate times on Fox News. Does Fox have a

729
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: segment that mean you should? If you have any integrity,

730
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Speaker 2: I would, you know, if we said something that wasn't true,

731
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I'd be like, hey, just everybody knows, you know, it

732
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: turned out it was complete BS if it turned out

733
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Speaker 2: to be you know, whichever way it goes, whether it's

734
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Speaker 2: my narrative or not, I can't believe it. But you

735
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Speaker 2: know how many people who watch Fox, They're not going

736
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Speaker 2: to know to them stabbed in the eye as cannon

737
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Speaker 2: at this point, that's the.

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Speaker 1: Issue that's so so true. I mean, it's just listen, guys,

739
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: we live in a big country and there's a number

740
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: of freaks and weirdos out there who are desperate to

741
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: be a victim, desperate to be the center of attention,

742
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Speaker 1: and will go to any links to make that a

743
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Speaker 1: reality for them. Or they're intentional agitators and provocateurs who

744
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: love to stir the pot. Or I mean, we covered

745
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: here on this show incredible in depth reporting on how

746
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: one of the BLM protests in Denver was infiltrated by

747
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: the you know, FBI in formant. It was trying to

748
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: stir them up to like blow up buildings and other

749
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: you know, and embrace more overt violence. So this is

750
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Speaker 1: not It sounds conspiratorial, but these things are real and

751
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 1: documented throughout history, including through very very recent history. So okay,

752
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Speaker 1: So in the category of I think just desperate to

753
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Speaker 1: be a victim, this next scenario, this video is just incredible.

754
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Speaker 1: I knew Zabur was gonna absolutely love this one. So

755
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: this lady, which you know, I'm very loath to use

756
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: the term Karen, but if it has ever applied, It

757
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: certainly applies. Let's just say a woman in this instance, Okay,

758
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: she's walking her dog. It comes upon she's a I

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Speaker 1: think she's at Northeastern. Maybe she comes upon the you know,

760
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Speaker 1: the protesters there, and she completely melts down. She calls

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Speaker 1: nine to one one. They're just standing there. They're not

762
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Speaker 1: doing anything to her, nothing to her. She's not in

763
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Speaker 1: sec She's saying, Star Golden, I'm in danger, and I'm

764
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Speaker 1: a Jewish American. She's just literally standing there. She could

765
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Speaker 1: leave at any time. But fortunately someone caught this whole

766
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Speaker 1: thing on video. Just watch how this unfolds.

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Speaker 9: Yes, they're right ahead of me right now, they're I

768
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Speaker 9: need Jennifer, I need help. I know that, but they're

769
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Speaker 9: all they're surrounding.

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Speaker 4: Let me move.

771
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Speaker 3: No, no, you are free to move. You are free

772
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Speaker 3: to move. She's free to move. You are free to move.

773
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 3: Right now, she's free to move. She's free to leave.

774
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: She is free to leave. No one is surrounding her.

775
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: She is free to leave.

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Speaker 9: Need help, there's one, two, three, four or five, six,

777
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Speaker 9: seven eight. I'm wearing a white and need a shirt.

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Speaker 2: I get a job with me.

779
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 8: I need help.

780
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 3: You do need help.

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong about that. Poor dog is like, can

782
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Speaker 1: we get on with their walk here? Like we're having

783
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Speaker 1: a good time.

784
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Speaker 2: Who walks their dog just straight into the middle of

785
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Speaker 2: a protest and isn't asking for it? Let's be real,

786
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: And she didn't even get anything even when she got there, right,

787
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Speaker 2: But you know, come on, like people need to chill

788
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: if you who thinks they're in danger and then walks

789
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Speaker 2: in the middle off a protest and then even in

790
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 2: that protest, they're like, lady, you're completely free to leave.

791
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: You're the one here causing a problem. This is all

792
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: on video. You look like an idiot. And that's just like,

793
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Speaker 2: I do not understand. I don't know. There's just such

794
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: a deep narcissism that runs in this country where everybody

795
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: wants to be the victim and they just they they

796
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Speaker 2: think though in the age of social media, that they're

797
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: going to get away with it. It's just astounding. You know,

798
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: this the victim hode complex. You need to walk into

799
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: there and then call the police. I mean, this is

800
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: another thing where we really should have more stringent fines

801
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Speaker 2: and penalties for falsely calling nine to one one under

802
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Speaker 2: false pretenses or false allegations of assault. Because that is

803
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 2: such bullshit.

804
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Speaker 3: Emergencies to deal with.

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Speaker 1: You're like a great panic attack, trying to incite the

806
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: cops to come and like arrest you. I mean, that's

807
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: clearly the goal, right, That's clearly why she walked there

808
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: in the first place. She was hoping something bad would

809
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: happen to her, that she could, you know, call nine

810
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: one one, get the cops to arrest these people who

811
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: were doing absolutely nothing wrong, or herself getting you know,

812
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: the who had Laura Ingram interviewed through Laura Ingram Interviews

813
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: about how she was the subject of an anti Semitic

814
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 1: attack or what I like. That clearly is her goal,

815
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Speaker 1: and so thank god someone caught it on camera because

816
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: this is the sort of thing that it was just

817
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Speaker 1: this woman recounting what happened.

818
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Speaker 2: Reading local news. I walked my dog into a protest.

819
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: I called nine on one. I felt unsafe. You're like,

820
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: oh my god.

821
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Speaker 3: Right.

822
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Speaker 1: The next thing you know, she's writing a calumn for

823
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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss's thing about how she got stabbed in eye

824
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Jonathan Green blats on warning Joe talking

825
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,959
Speaker 1: about how this was a hate cry. That's what would

826
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: it could have very easily happened if they hadn't just

827
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Speaker 1: been recording her standing there perfectly safe and all the

828
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Speaker 1: protesters being like, lady, you can leave, Like you're fine,

829
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: go on. Apparently nine to one one also was like

830
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Speaker 1: I think you're good, you can.

831
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Speaker 3: We're moving on here.

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00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: I usually am a critic of nine one one response times,

833
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: but in this particular one, good for them.

834
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Speaker 3: Yes, they have real emergencies to deal with people. Come on.

835
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Speaker 2: There was a highly consequential argument before the US Supreme

836
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Speaker 2: Court on the question of Donald Trump and his immunity

837
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Speaker 2: from prosecution as president of the United States. The reason

838
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: this is very consequential is it specifically focuses in on

839
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Speaker 2: the Jack Smith January sixth indictment against Trump, as it

840
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: relates to whether Donald Trump was acting in an official

841
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: act as president or not while he was undergoing a

842
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: lot of this January sixth false elector scheme, of which

843
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: he is actually being charged with. So we have two

844
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Speaker 2: separate questions lines of questions from the conservative justices and

845
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Speaker 2: the liberal justices. I will give it away to you

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00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: before we even play them. It does appear that the

847
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: conservative majority will side with Trump. But getting into some

848
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Speaker 2: of the actual line of questioning is important to understand

849
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Speaker 2: and tease out kind of what they're getting at for

850
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Speaker 2: the legal merits. Here is Justice Alito with a question

851
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Speaker 2: on that official proceedings and whethersone could be undidted under

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Speaker 2: an official act. Here's what it is.

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Speaker 5: Mister Sauer and others have identified events in the past

854
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 5: where presidents have engaged in conduct that might have been

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Speaker 5: charged as a federal crime. And you say, well, no,

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Speaker 5: that's not really true. This is page forty two of

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Speaker 5: your brief. So what about President Franklin D. Roosevelt's decision

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Speaker 5: to in turn Japanese Americans during World War Two? Couldn't

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Speaker 5: that have been charged under eighteen USC. Two forty one

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Speaker 5: conspiracy against civil rights?

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Speaker 10: Today? Yes, given this Court's decision in Trump versus United States,

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Speaker 10: in which the Trump versus Hawaii excuse me, where the

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Speaker 10: Court said Kramatsu is overruled, I mean President Roosevelt made

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Speaker 10: that decision with the advice of his Attorney general. That's

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Speaker 10: a layer of that's really true.

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Speaker 5: I thought Attorney General Biddle thought that there was really

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Speaker 5: no threat of sabotage, as did Jaeger Hoover.

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Speaker 10: So I think that there is a lot of historical controversy,

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Speaker 10: but it underscores that that occurred during wartime. It implicates

870
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 10: a potential commander in chief concerns concerns about the exigencies

871
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 10: of national defense that might provide and as applied article

872
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 10: to challenge at the time. I'm not suggesting today, but

873
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 10: the idea that a decision that was made and ultimately

874
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 10: endorsed by this Court, perhaps wrongly in the Kamatsu case,

875
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 10: would support criminal prosecution under two forty one, which requires

876
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 10: under United States versus Linear that the right have been

877
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 10: made specific so that there is notice to the president.

878
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 10: I don't think that would have been satisfied.

879
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: So that was an important line of questioning there by

880
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: Justice Alito, specifically the official act or whether you're doing

881
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 2: something an official act leaves you open for prosecution. They're

882
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: talking about the infamous internment of Japanese Americans. Now we're

883
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: going to flip it and we're going to show you

884
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 2: here a line of questioning from Justice Soda Mayor around

885
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: whether an official act as president could include, let's say,

886
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: assassination of your political rival. How and what would that

887
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: then be tested under this bounds of absolute immunity, that

888
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 2: the Trump prosecution or the Trump Defense is arguing, let's

889
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: take a lesson.

890
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 11: If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt

891
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 11: person and he orders the military or orders someone to

892
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 11: assassinate him, is that within his official acts for which

893
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 11: he can get immunity.

894
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 12: It would depends on the hypothetical, but we can see

895
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 12: that could well be an official he.

896
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 11: Could and why because he's doing it for personal reasons.

897
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 11: He's not doing it at like President Obama is alleged

898
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 11: to have done it to protect the country from a terrorist.

899
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 11: He's doing it for personal gain.

900
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 2: So that is the interesting kind of crux. And it's

901
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 2: actually a fascinating conversation.

902
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: Well awkward there for the Lobos, isn't it.

903
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it is, because they're talking they're like, well, yeah, Obama,

904
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: because you know that was a very clearly like well,

905
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: what about President Obama and the assassination of Anwar Al Alwaki,

906
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 2: which he basically just greenlit th to this Solicitor General's office,

907
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 2: even though he was an American citizen and was never

908
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: once convicted of a crime, let alone stripped of his

909
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: citizenship and allowed to be killed by his own government.

910
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 2: So this gets then to the question about that official

911
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,320
Speaker 2: act where they appears that the court is going to

912
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: split the difference. Let's go and put this up there

913
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 2: on the screen. What they are showing from the arguments

914
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 2: is that they are likely to side with Trump on

915
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: some presidential immunity. What might mean by that is that

916
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: they're they're going to narrow the indictment such that Jack

917
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: Smith is going to have to go back and use

918
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: some legal minutia to argue that much of the Trump

919
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,240
Speaker 2: false elector's schemes happened as in his personal capacity as president.

920
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 2: The way that they're going to argue that actually does

921
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 2: comply with some of the facts, Crystal. It gets to,

922
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: for example, some of his off the book's Oval office

923
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: meetings which were not happening in his official capacity, We're

924
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 2: happening as campaign capacity. Yeah, so they need to go

925
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: back and basically narrow and tailor the indictment after this

926
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: is issued to specify that this happened as campaign Trump

927
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 2: and not as President Trump. It gets into that question

928
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 2: of official versus campaign and also not remember we're not

929
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: talking here about the speech or even the actions of

930
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: January sixth. It's often conflated. The actual indictment focuses on

931
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: the false elector scheme specifically, and so they have to

932
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: go back and tailor what is and is not an

933
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: official act in terms of the indictment. Now, the reason

934
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: any of this matters is because A it's narrowing the

935
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: definition of official act of the presidency. But BA procedurally,

936
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: this is almost certainly going to delay the trial until

937
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: after the November twenty twenty four election. At least according

938
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: to the timelines that we've seen. Supreme Court still has

939
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: to issue an opinion on this that Jacksmith would then

940
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: have to go through all the procedural things that you

941
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: have to do. The Trump team throwing everything they can,

942
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: So it does seem very likely now at this point

943
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: that the only case that will come to trial before

944
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: the November election, it's, you know, more likely than not,

945
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: is this stupid Stormy Daniels case in New York City,

946
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: which is astounding.

947
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 3: It's kind of crazy. I mean, it's very ironic.

948
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: Incredibly, this is the one that actually the one that's

949
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: even ye I mean, yeah, it just a fate, but

950
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: here we are, I mean, it's anyway, with regard to

951
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: these arguments, it looks like four of the conservative justices

952
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: were very amenable to the Trump team's arguments about presidential immunity,

953
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: Roberts being kind of the swing vote, and as Sager

954
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: is indicating, what may happen here is they say, yes,

955
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: you're immune for official acts, but there's a big question

956
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: about how many of the acts that he's actually indicted

957
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: for our quote unquote official acts and how many are

958
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: private acts. And there was a lot of discussion and

959
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: debate that happened in these hearings about how you distinguish

960
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: between the two, because on its face, you might think

961
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: that it's clear, but you very quickly come to realize

962
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: that it's hard to draw the line in a lot

963
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: of instances. And I think with regard to this January

964
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: sixth indictment in particular, i'll read.

965
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 3: A little bit from that piece.

966
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: We just had up several justices press the Trump team

967
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: on how to distinguish official acts for which a president

968
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: would enjoy immunity under their theory, from private acts for

969
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: which he could still face criminal charges. Chief Justice John

970
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: Roberts in particular asked the Trump team about a scenario

971
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: involving a president's official act appointing an ambassador, but that

972
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: he does in exchange for a bribe. When the Trump

973
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: team conceded that accepting the bribe is p conduct. Robertson

974
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: urged them to explain how the boundary between an official

975
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: act and a private one would come into play. Prosecutors

976
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 1: could bring charges against the former president for accepting a

977
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 1: million dollars, Robert queried, or but they can't say what

978
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: it's for. So how do you where do you draw

979
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: that line? Can you say, Okay, this was for appointing investador?

980
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: Is that off limits because that's an official act? So

981
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: it becomes quite murky. Justice Selena Kagan also took up

982
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: this line of questioning.

983
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: She had a series of examples.

984
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: She talked about, you know, signing a form affirming false

985
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: election allegations.

986
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 3: Would that be private.

987
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 1: Trump's team said it would be, but they asserted that

988
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: other things like calling the chair of the Republican Party

989
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: would be official. So it was directly relevant to the

990
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 1: Trump case. So, if you're signing a form asserting, yes,

991
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: these fake electors are real, Arry, we're saying that's private.

992
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: But you're calling the chair of the Republican Party to

993
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: pressure them in this direction, that's official.

994
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: So again it's very murky.

995
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: When asked whether ordering the military, Harry to stage a

996
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: coup so the president could remain in office, was private

997
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: or official. The Trump team suggested it would depend on

998
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: the circumstances, prompting Kegan to say that sure sounds bad,

999
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 1: doesn't it. And you know, previously we had talked about

1000
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: how some of the Trump theory that they were arguing

1001
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: at the DC Circuit court level was, Hey, the process

1002
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: here is impeachment and conviction.

1003
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 3: That's the direction to go through.

1004
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: And some of the arguments here really indicated that even

1005
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: if let's say Trump was impah over January sixth and

1006
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: the attempts to overturn the election and convicted in the Senate,

1007
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: they still, under their argument, would be immune from criminal

1008
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: prosecution around all of that. But you know, for my

1009
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: personal opinion, old fashioned, I think president should have to

1010
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: follow the law, whether it's Obama or Trump or anybody else.

1011
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: But in terms of the consequence for this case, I mean,

1012
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: really is consequential for all future presidents, And you know,

1013
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: what they can do and what they feel entitled to do,

1014
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: and the way that they frame their potentially future illegal acts.

1015
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: So it's very consequential not just for this case but

1016
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: moving forward, but specifically for this case. If they do

1017
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: what it looks like they're going to do. At the

1018
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: very least, it's going to be another significant delay because

1019
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: not only may Jack Smith have to taylor the indictment,

1020
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: but you're then very likely to have to go through

1021
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of additional court rulings about where do you

1022
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: draw the line is this appropriate or is this not appropriate?

1023
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: And that could also have to go all the way

1024
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: back up to the Supreme Court. So you know, the

1025
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: delay tactics from Trump on this particular case, which I

1026
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: would say, you know, putting aside the strength of the

1027
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: legal case, which I think, you know could be debated,

1028
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: but in terms of what people hate the most about Trump,

1029
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: this one is really kind of at the core. And

1030
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like we're going to come anywhere close

1031
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: to any sort of resolution with this before election, is

1032
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: the bottom line?

1033
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Well said, So there you go. Part of the reason too,

1034
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 2: there was such a dumb idea to indict Trump if

1035
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 2: you are going to indict him so late in the game,

1036
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: because now, congratulations. Honestly, the setupmerica up for even more

1037
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 2: of a nightmare, because now what if he wins. The

1038
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: president elect on trial, the current president of the United

1039
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: States on trial, if you think these currents are remport

1040
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 2: courses are crazy. Imagine if he's sitting in the damn

1041
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 2: office while this is all happening. I mean, it's just

1042
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: absolute madness. Let's move on now to the next part.

1043
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: This is one that we just couldn't let slide. Howard Stern.

1044
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: This is honestly, deeply sad and almost emotional in a

1045
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 2: certain sense. Howard Stern, I mean, was the icon of

1046
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 2: the United States find you know, as the anti establishment.

1047
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: The FCC, you know, went after him for being loot

1048
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: or you know, cursing on the air. He signed his

1049
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 2: deal with Sirius, he was totally uncensored. And then the

1050
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: last seven years or so we've seen a transformation of

1051
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: this former renegade basically into like a blue and on liberal.

1052
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: And I mean this has been coming now for quite

1053
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: some time. But Howard Stern, who, let's all be honest,

1054
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 2: maybe more responsible for pop popularizing Trump than anybody else,

1055
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: used to have a standing segment where Trump would call

1056
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 2: in Milania two and the two of them would just

1057
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 2: like discuss like sex and weird, lewd stuff and they

1058
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 2: would get you know, everybody would Everybody loved it because

1059
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,760
Speaker 2: Donald would go in with Howard, and there was very

1060
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: very popular segments there is now turned again into like

1061
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: Trump is a fascist, and this culminates in this recent

1062
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 2: interview where President Biden, who has not done an interview

1063
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: with a major news outlet yet including The New York

1064
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,439
Speaker 2: Times for his entire presidency, for print media. In terms

1065
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 2: of TV, it's been I think like several I think

1066
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: it's been more than a couple of months. Remember Chrystally

1067
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 2: famously skips out on the CBS interview for the Super Bowl.

1068
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: He has skipped multiple opportunities for major sit down interviews

1069
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 2: that millions of Americans would watch. Well. He then decides

1070
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: to sit down for an hour long interview with Joe Biden. Now,

1071
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: in the past this might have actually been important, you know,

1072
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: Howard might have actually asked him one or two questions.

1073
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: Howard manages to sit with this man for an hour,

1074
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: make one piece of news where he offhand He's like, oh,

1075
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: are you going to debate Trump? And Biden's like, yeah,

1076
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 2: debate him at some point it doesn't even commit to

1077
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 2: a thing. And then listen to the tongue bath that

1078
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: Howard gives his interviewee subject. This is again Howard Sterning

1079
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: a former renegade. Take a listen.

1080
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 13: Thank you for doing this today. I want to thank

1081
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 13: you for your compassion. You know, the reason I'm so

1082
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 13: excited to talk to you was because I wanted to

1083
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 13: understand the tragedy in your life and how you dealt

1084
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Speaker 13: with it. And you're the kind of leader I love.

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Speaker 13: Because we're lucky to have you in the Oval office

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Speaker 13: and serving as the father of the country. Because if

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Speaker 13: you're a good father to your family what you are,

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Speaker 13: I know you be a good father to the country.

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Speaker 13: And I want to thank you for providing a calming influence,

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Speaker 13: an organized administration post COVID, getting that vaccine out. I

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Speaker 13: remember what the world was like at that point, getting NATO,

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Speaker 13: getting us to feel comfortable standing up to putin the

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Speaker 13: incredible large growth in the jobs, unemployment rate down. I'll

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Speaker 13: give you your greatest hits, the lowest uninshored rate in history.

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Speaker 13: Four out of five Americans are covered for less than

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Speaker 13: ten dollars a month, knocking off a few isis leaders.

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Speaker 13: Cutting the emissions in half. I mean, you've always been

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Speaker 13: an environmentalist, even the marijuana reform laws. Enough to sitting

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Speaker 13: there and fighting that battle. Respect for Marriage Act. What

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Speaker 13: the hell is with people with this gasee? Who cares

1101
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 13: if someone's gay? How is it affecting anybody?

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Speaker 2: People?

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Speaker 13: In love? It's good right, love is good.

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Speaker 14: My dad, I said, said, we saw two men kissing

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Speaker 14: one another in Rodney Square when I was going in

1106
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 14: to get a license. I looked at him. He said, Joey,

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00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 14: it's simple. They love each other. That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's how I look at it. Do you have a

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00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: question there, Howard? What the hell is that? I can't

1110
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Speaker 2: imagine a subject that I would ever interview, even if

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00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: I was enamored by them, especially a politician. I would

1112
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 2: never speak to a politician somewhere.

1113
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 3: Like what the most powerful man on the planet question?

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00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

1115
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 3: It?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Was honestly, remember how we used to always make fun

1118
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: of that slobbering and Arenicle.

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 3: Wallace did, which.

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Speaker 2: It was one times.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna talk about this. I'm in my monologue

1122
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 1: about the White House Correspondence dinner where they're calling us

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Speaker 1: talking about his decency? His decency? Do you know how

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00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: sickening that is? Here he's sorry, his compassion. Do you

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Speaker 1: know how sickening that is? When under his watch tens

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Speaker 1: of thousands of Palestonian children have been killed. We've all

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Speaker 1: say that images of these babies being amputated with no

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Speaker 1: anesthetic on a kitchen table with a butcher knife, And

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Speaker 1: you're talk to me about this man's compassion, his compassion

1130
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 1: right now we're going to cover in a little bout

1131
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: he's intervening personally to make sure that bab Netal who

1132
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Speaker 1: was in charge with war crimes, and you're you're going

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00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: to talk about his compassion and his decency.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's so grotesque.

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Speaker 1: It really shows you that how simple minded and also

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Speaker 1: how the only thing that so many of this is

1137
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: very like Beltway mindset.

1138
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: All they care about is this like decorum.

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Speaker 1: So the fact that he's like not vitriolic towards Mitch

1140
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: McConnell or whatever is more important to them them than

1141
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: the fact that he's aiding and abetting a genocide with

1142
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Speaker 1: horrors that we are all appalled by on a daily basis.

1143
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: How many images have you seen of the mass graves

1144
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: that were uncovered outside of a hospital in Communis you're

1145
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: gonna tell me about this man's compassion compassion for who,

1146
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: because it's certainly not those people, is certainly not Palestidians.

1147
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Speaker 2: I mean I can give even more. I mean, you know,

1148
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 2: think about Ukraine bringing us to the brink of nuclear war,

1149
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: like continuing that forever. Also the idea that there's some

1150
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: well oiled machine there. You know, I was saying while

1151
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: the clip was playing to you, they should hire Howard

1152
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 2: as its press secretary because they can't even fire the

1153
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: current press like Gosch he's black, even though they literally

1154
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: walked to fire, but they're so afraid of the affirmative

1155
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: action consequences of firing a black lesbian. That's so much

1156
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: of a joke that these people are. So it's like,

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, father of this country, the whole father of

1158
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: the country, mister decency. I mean, all of this really

1159
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: goes to the fact that his son is dead, which

1160
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: is obviously tragic and sad, but you know, let's be honest,

1161
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: like that's not a qualification for being president of the

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Speaker 2: United States. There's a lot of people in this country

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Speaker 2: whose kids are dead and or can speak with some

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Speaker 2: empathy or compassion or you know, use it as foundational

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: experience of their life. I just this is sickening to

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Speaker 2: me on so many levels, both because of who Howard

1167
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: was and how he got his fame, how he really

1168
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: changed American culture, I think for the better, you know,

1169
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: opening up challenging a lot of these conceptions of censorious,

1170
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: like censorious or government organizations and standards and all that

1171
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 2: was very constraining to speech. And we know that Howard

1172
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 2: thirty years ago, no matter, absolutely would not have stood

1173
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: for the current type of environment and all that that

1174
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,920
Speaker 2: Biden has brought to the table. But for some reason,

1175
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: you know, his brain has just been completely broken. So

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01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 2: it's sad that that again too, that's the only time

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Speaker 2: of interview that Biden will sit for. How can you

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Speaker 2: have this?

1179
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Speaker 3: That's right?

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Speaker 1: As a republic You can see, I mean you can

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: see why see why he picked Howard Stern clearly and

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01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: why he won't go and sit with Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: the New York Times is very favorable towards him, but

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Speaker 1: they're going to ask.

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Speaker 3: Him something that he's going to have to, yeah, no question.

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Speaker 1: Respond to, and I mean he's not equipped, right, So

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Speaker 1: that's why he does it is because he can get

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01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: away with it and you can just you know, go

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01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: on like Howard Stern, or go on with some like

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01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 1: Mindfulness podcast, which is not going to ask him anything.

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Speaker 3: Difficult, and you.

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Speaker 1: Know, it's a real political problem. It's obviously a moral

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01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: like abyss in terms of what he's done in his

1194
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: presidency vis A vi Gaza, but it's a real political

1195
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: problem for him because the core value that was kind

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Speaker 1: of his like political super power was this sense that

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Speaker 1: he's this Listen, I may not agree with him, but

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Speaker 1: he's a decent man. He's compassionate, he shows he has

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Speaker 1: all this well of empathy from a life that was

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01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: marked by genuine, horrible tragedy.

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Speaker 3: Right, but we covered a pole recently.

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Speaker 1: I wish I had the numbers in from you right

1203
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: now that people don't feel that way about him anymore.

1204
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: They don't feel that way about him anymore because you know,

1205
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: you look at what he's doing and what he's enabling,

1206
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: what he's funding, what he's covering for, and you can

1207
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: no longer say like, oh, this is an empathetic, compassionate man.

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01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: It just doesn't hold, especially if you're talking about you know,

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01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 1: as our pole reflects people who are not getting their

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01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: news from cable news or print media, but cable news

1211
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Speaker 1: in particular. The rest of the country is looking at

1212
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: what he is not just enabling but facilitating starvation, the

1213
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Speaker 1: complete siege, all of these things. I don't feel like

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01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: this is a good, decent, compassionate man. So previously, I

1215
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 1: feel like some comments like this are the ones from

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01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: the White House correspond or whatever. They would have passed

1217
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: without a lot of commentary, because there were a lot

1218
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: of people who felt that way, who used to feel

1219
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: that way about Joe Biden, and that image is falling

1220
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Speaker 1: apart by the day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it has fell part for a lot of people

1222
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Speaker 2: a long time ago. Let's move on now to RFK Junior.

1223
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: In the war between RFK Junior and Donald Trump is escalating.

1224
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: RFK Junior appears to have really set Trump off with

1225
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 2: some It's either his interview on Bill Maher and specifically

1226
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: the vaccine section. So we're going to play for you

1227
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Speaker 2: what RFK Junior said with Bill Maher and then we're

1228
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Speaker 2: going to show you Trump's responses plan.

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Speaker 15: But your vice presidential pick wants to recall the Maderna vaccine.

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Speaker 15: That's the one I got. Well, do you agree with

1231
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 15: that recall it?

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Speaker 12: I think you know they I make those vaccines need

1233
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 12: to we need to have again true double line. Plet's

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01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 12: even controlled trials on that. There's twenty five percent of

1235
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 12: Americans who believe that they know somebody who was killed

1236
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 12: a COVID vaccine killed killed twenty five percent of Americans.

1237
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 12: Fifty two percent of Americans believed that the vaccines are

1238
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 12: causing injuries including death fifty two percent. Oh, if you

1239
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 12: look at the clinical trial studies, the actual studies that

1240
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 12: were done that were released of the Fireser vaccine, Moderna

1241
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 12: has not released it. If you look at the Fiser vaccine,

1242
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 12: there was there were twenty two thousand people in the

1243
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 12: placebit group, twenty two thousand people who got the actual vaccine,

1244
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 12: and the people who got the vaccine had a twenty

1245
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 12: three percent higher death rate from all causes at the

1246
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 12: end of that study.

1247
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 15: But that could not be the disease itself.

1248
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: Well, so as you can see Arcade Junior versus Bill

1249
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 2: Maher there. But what was interesting is how Trump is

1250
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: now handling this. So let's go put this up there

1251
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 2: on the screen. So Donald Trump puts out this long truth. God,

1252
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 2: the character limit really was good for him. This is

1253
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,479
Speaker 2: way too long, says I actually watched for the first

1254
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: time in a long time. Ratings challenged Bill Maher's really

1255
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: boring interview with RFK Junior RFK, only to find Junior

1256
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: is far more liberal than Mar and in fact far

1257
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 2: more liberal than anyone else running as a Democrat, including

1258
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 2: West and Stein. Yet despite this, he has no hope

1259
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: as a Democrat because they were able to use their

1260
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 2: typically fascist repression blah blah blah throw them out of

1261
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 2: the party like a dog. So now Junior's a so

1262
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 2: called independent, but he's not. He's a radical left wing

1263
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: lunatic trying to have it all way. He says that

1264
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 2: no vaccine is safe and effective and then said I

1265
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 2: would never say I'm not anti vaccine. Where did that

1266
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 2: come from? Mar defended the vaccine, which Junior seemed to agree, Wow,

1267
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 2: and then told him his poll numbers of crash. No

1268
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: Republican can vote for this guy. Hashtag MAGA twenty twenty four.

1269
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: No idea what Trump is trying to say there exactly crystal,

1270
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: But but I think what he can sense, at least correctly,

1271
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: is that a vaccine politics is disproportionately going to resonate

1272
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 2: with people who are right wing, and that therefore something

1273
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: like RFK Junior there citing those numbers which probably disproportionately

1274
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 2: going to be Republicans or Republican leaning voters, and Trump's

1275
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: not an idiot. He can read a poll, how many

1276
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 2: internal polls?

1277
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:20,360
Speaker 3: Not?

1278
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: Is he probably able to see now that confirm a

1279
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: lot of the reporting we've had here on this show

1280
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: and elsewhere that RFK Junior actually could end up affecting

1281
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 2: Trump and drawing more from his voters than anybody else

1282
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: in the election.

1283
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I think most Americans overwhelmingly have moved

1284
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: on from.

1285
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 3: COVID politics as retired. This was years ago now, but.

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01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: There is still a like core base on the right

1287
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: in particular that is still like this. This is a

1288
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: big thing for them, and it's one of the areas

1289
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,439
Speaker 1: where Trump's more vulnerable because he did operational warp speed

1290
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: and he continued even as the Republican base went to

1291
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 1: the anti VAXs side pretty hard, he continued to defend

1292
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 1: the vaccines and a time, like face some blowback over that.

1293
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 1: So I think he feels a little bit vulnerable. Not

1294
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 1: that this is going to be a huge wave of

1295
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: support from his group to RFK Junior's group, but I

1296
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: think he feels that this is an issue where he's

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Speaker 1: a little bit vulnerable to losing some percentage points.

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Speaker 3: I do want to.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he does make a point about RFK Junior

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Speaker 1: that I think is fair, which is that he does

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Speaker 1: play very like fast and loose with what he actually

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Speaker 1: thinks about vaccines. Because the quote that they're referring to

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Speaker 1: was from Lex Readman's podcast. Remember this, this is from

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Speaker 1: July twenty twenty three. So he was being asked, you know,

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Speaker 1: if any vaccines are safe and effective, and he said

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Speaker 1: there is no vaccine that is safe and effective. Now,

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Speaker 1: what he tries to claim is that he did say

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Speaker 1: that some of this is the exact quote, some of

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Speaker 1: the live virus vaccines are probably averting war problems than

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Speaker 1: they're causing. But then he went on when he was

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Speaker 1: pressed and said there is no vaccine that is safe

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Speaker 1: and effective.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's it's.

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Speaker 1: Fair to call him then an anti vaxxerra. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he's been one of the leading like funders and organizers

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Speaker 1: of an entire movement again, you know, pushing back on

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Speaker 1: the idea of vaccine safety. So in any case, this

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Speaker 1: is an area where Trump feels like RFK obviously codes

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Speaker 1: more right wing, and I think he also is seeing

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Speaker 1: some of the polling numbers and realizing this could actually

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Speaker 1: be more of an issue for him than it is

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Speaker 1: for Joe Biden, because not only do you have a

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Speaker 1: couple of polls that show him pulling more from Trump,

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Speaker 1: the one we covered last week, what was that Wall

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Speaker 1: Street jour NBC News that we covered last week? I

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Speaker 1: believe the Wall Street Journal one before that also showed

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Speaker 1: RFK Junior taking more from Trump. And then if you

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Speaker 1: look at any of these polls, RFK Junior has very

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Speaker 1: had approval ratings among Republicans and extremely trash approval ratings

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Speaker 1: among Democrats. So logic would indicate that that's probably going

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Speaker 1: to be more of a problem for the Republican side,

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Speaker 1: although you know, the fact he's Kennedy and all of

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Speaker 1: these other factors are a little complicating, not to mention

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Speaker 1: the fact that it remains a question how many else

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Speaker 1: he's actually gonna end up.

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Speaker 2: You can see this too, and some more of the

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Speaker 2: attacks that Trump unleashed over the weekend on RFK Junior

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Speaker 2: lests put this up there on the screen. He really

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 2: does appear to be zooming in on vaccines, specifically as

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Speaker 2: an attack vector. He says, RFK Junior is a Democrat plant,

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Speaker 2: a radical left liberal, blah, blah blah. If Republicans knew

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Speaker 2: the true story about him, Junior is totally anti gun,

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Speaker 2: an extreme environmentalist, a big time taxer, an open border advocate,

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Speaker 2: anti military vet. He goes on and on and on,

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 2: and he continues to quote. His views on vaccines are fake.

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01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 2: He says, I live with RFK Junior in New York.

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01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 2: Watch him convince Cuomo to make environmental moves that were

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 2: out right nasty. You know, he can go on. It

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01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: would be dead either way. His views are vaccines are fake,

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Speaker 2: as is everything else about his candidacy. Let the Democrats

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Speaker 2: have RFK Junior. They deserve him, so it is interesting

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 2: to see he's zooming in here.

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Speaker 1: FI.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not really again, not exactly clear what exactly

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01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 2: is trying to do here. We do here have a

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Speaker 2: response from RFK Junior. Let's put this up there on

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Speaker 2: the screen. And he expanded a little bit this in

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Speaker 2: a recent interview. He says, when frightened men take to

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Speaker 2: social media, they risk descending into vitriol, which makes them

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01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 2: sound unhinged. President Trump's rant against me is a barely

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Speaker 2: coherent barrage of wild and inaccurate claims that should be

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Speaker 2: best be resolved in the American tradition of presidential debate,

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Speaker 2: President Trump, who has proven himself the most adapt debater

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Speaker 2: in modern American history, should not be panicked to meet

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Speaker 2: me on that stage. To preview my arguments, I will

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Speaker 2: show how Trump betrayed the hopes of his most sincere followers.

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01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: He promised to end the Ukraine War, then included with Johnson,

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01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: he led big farm. He led big farm on his

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Speaker 2: correct bureaucrats run a rough shot over from his President

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01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: promised to cut the deafsit, et cetera. He says, instead

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Speaker 2: of lobbing poisonous bombs from the safety of his bunker.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear President Trump defend his record to me mono

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Speaker 2: I mono, by respectful congenial debate. So he's challenging Trump

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Speaker 2: to a debate. Very unlikely that Trump will accept it,

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Speaker 2: although one thing I will say it includes more likely

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Speaker 2: now Biden has agreed to some sort of debate. Trump

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01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 2: of course, is chomping at the bit for a debate

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 2: that because of this debate. Apparently the Biden people don't

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Speaker 2: like the Commission on Presidential Debates either, so it could

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01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: be that we could see the CPD fall apart and

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Speaker 2: if it does, it would be I think more likely

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Speaker 2: that RFK Junior may actually be included, maybe as a

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Speaker 2: condition either by the Biden campaign or the Trump campaign,

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Speaker 2: possibly to try and trip the other side up. If

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01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 2: we do see the overall debate infrastructure collapse. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure how it will all shake.

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Speaker 3: I mean we should see that. We should see Jill Steyne.

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Speaker 1: I would love to, you know, doctor Westaffians up on

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Speaker 1: a number of ballots. We should hear from all of

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Speaker 1: these candidates. They should be able to compare and contrast

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Speaker 1: their ideas. You should have people who have a variety

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Speaker 1: of opinions who have to match up against each other

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Speaker 1: on a stage and see how they perform. Like, debates

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Speaker 1: are not perfect, they're not the end all be all,

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01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: but got at least it's like a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a democratic process. So allow us to judge in real

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Speaker 1: time what they say under pressure, how they respond to

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Speaker 1: actually difficult questions, because now it's far too easy for

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Speaker 1: these candidates. And RFK Junior, I mean he's sat with us,

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Speaker 1: He sat for a number of difficult, cult challenging interviews,

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Speaker 1: and I applout him for that. All of these candidates

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Speaker 1: should have to do that. They should have to do that,

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01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,519
Speaker 1: and they should certainly have to get up on a

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01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: debate stage and justify themselves in their.

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Speaker 3: Candidacies to the American people. So listen.

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Speaker 1: I was glad to hear Biden say he's open to

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01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: a debate. We'll see if that actually comes together, because

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Speaker 1: I could still see you know, a lot of times

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Speaker 1: what will happen with Biden is he'll say something and

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Speaker 1: then his staff will be like, no, no, no, that's

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01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: not really what he meant, and you know, walk it

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Speaker 1: back and sort of try to steer him in the

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Speaker 1: direction where they feel safest, which is probably the wisest course.

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Speaker 1: Probably the wisest course for him is not to debate

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. But it did make me a little bit

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Speaker 1: hopeful that we might see one when he said that.

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Speaker 3: With Howard Stern.

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Speaker 1: I could still see them though, like you know, at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, Trump doing something that they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is toom we can't stand on a debate stage

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Speaker 1: with him, or you know, no, this moderator's biased, whatever,

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Speaker 1: coming up with some excuse at the last minute to

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Speaker 1: not do it. So I'm still like only maybe thirty

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Speaker 1: hopeful is actually going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Good point.

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Speaker 1: So, as we reported last week, it is looking more

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Speaker 1: and more likely that the International Criminal Court is actually

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Speaker 1: going to issue arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin

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Speaker 1: Netnahu and a number of other top Israeli officials. So

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Speaker 1: the US has decided to involve themselves in an attempt

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Speaker 1: to stop this process. Let's put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 1: This will report specifically from the Times of Israel, but

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Speaker 1: there were a number of reports across Israeli media. So

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Speaker 1: according to those reports, the US is part of a

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Speaker 1: quote last ditch diplomatic effort, in other words, threats to

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Speaker 1: prevent the ICC from issuing arrest warrants against net Nyaho

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Speaker 1: and other Israeli officials. The news site Walla, an analyst

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Speaker 1: there writes Netanyahu is quote under unusual stress over the

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Speaker 1: prospect of an arrest warrant against him another Israelis by

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Speaker 1: the UN Tribunal in the HAGU.

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Speaker 3: Which would be a major deterioration.

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Speaker 1: They write in Israel's international status, Netnahu is leading a

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Speaker 1: quote NonStop push over the telephone to prevent that arrest

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Speaker 1: weren't and has focused especially on US President Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Another Israeli media analyst, Haretz Amos Herald writes that the

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Speaker 1: Israeli government is working under the assumption that the ICC's

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Speaker 1: prosecutor made this week issue warrants for net Yahu. Defense

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Speaker 1: Minister Joev Gallant, an IDF chief of staff herzi Heleev.

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Speaker 1: Netnahu's latest public statement about the war said forthcoming decisions

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Speaker 1: by the ICC could set a quote dangerous precedent, and

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01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: he also said we will never stop defending ourselves. Whereas

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Speaker 1: decisions of the court in the Hague will not affect

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Speaker 1: Israel's actions, they would be a precedent threatening the soldiers

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Speaker 1: and officials of any democracy fighting criminal terrorism and aggression.

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Speaker 1: There was also soccer a New York Times report this

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Speaker 1: was the first one I'd seen in the New York

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Speaker 1: Times that came out just yesterday evening about how imminent

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Speaker 1: these potential arrest warrants are. They said in that report

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Speaker 1: from the New York Times they had some indication of

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Speaker 1: what the arrest warrants may be specific to the Israeli

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Speaker 1: officials could potentially be accused of preventing the delivery of

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Speaker 1: humanitarian aid to the Gaza strip and pursuing an excessively

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Speaker 1: harsh response to the Hamas led October seventh attacks on Israel.

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Speaker 1: According to some of the officials they spoke to the

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Speaker 1: Israeli officials who are worried about the potential fallout from

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Speaker 1: such a case, that they believe net Nyaho is among

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Speaker 1: those who might be named. Is not clear who might

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Speaker 1: be charged from Hamas or what crimes would be cited.

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Speaker 1: So just to be clear for people, the US and

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Speaker 1: Israel are not actually participants in the ICC. The ICC

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Speaker 1: doesn't have its own like police force to come and

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Speaker 1: arrest Bib net Nyaho. As much as I would personally

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Speaker 1: love to see that image. However, there are what one

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four countries that are involved in the ICC,

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Speaker 1: and any one of those countries would be obligated if

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Speaker 1: they travel to those nations to arrest Bib or Yoev

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Speaker 1: Gallant or any other officials who were potentially issued these

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Speaker 1: arrest warrants. So, you know, obviously, in terms of the

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Speaker 1: international standing of Israel, having your prime minister having arrest

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Speaker 1: warrant from the ICC out for war crimes against your

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Speaker 1: prime minister is pretty significant development.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're only two foreign leaders that similarly have ICC

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Speaker 2: warrants against them. Omar al Bashir, former president of Sudan,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously Vladimir Putin as well. Are they going

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Speaker 2: to be arrested, Like, let's be real, No, They're going

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01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: to be able to travel far and wide as Putin

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Speaker 2: has been able to do. However, Putin has had issues,

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Speaker 2: right he wasn't allowed to or he decided not to

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Speaker 2: challenge ICC to travel to South Africa for the Bricks Conference.

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Speaker 2: There have been various political problems that he has had.

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Speaker 2: And look, while I am against the Ukraine Consensus, funding,

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Speaker 2: the Ukraine War and all of that, I don't think

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: anyone could deny that it's been bad for Russia in

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01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: terms of its international standing, not necessarily their domestic economy.

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Speaker 2: It hasn't led to their collapse, That's not what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying it certainly has damaged them in the eyes

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Speaker 2: of the world, and so similarly, I would say this

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Speaker 2: is likely the same effect that this would have, especially

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Speaker 2: since the US the Israel not signatories. I was a

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Speaker 2: little curious about this Hamas warrants because I hadn't seen

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Speaker 2: some of the argumentation around this. It said it was

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Speaker 2: considering warrants for these leaders of hamasi As for charge.

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Speaker 2: I actually think just look again, in terms of the

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Speaker 2: eyes of the world, it would make it a little

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Speaker 2: bit more undeniable if they were to do it, And

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Speaker 2: so if they did it would be at least politically,

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Speaker 2: that would probably be the right thing to do if

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Speaker 2: you charge him for October seventh, issue arrest warrants as well. Now,

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Speaker 2: again let's be very clear, this body has zero enforcement mechanism.

1510
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 2: There's a reason that Bushier, at the end of the day,

1511
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,679
Speaker 2: was taken out by a coup in his own government,

1512
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,880
Speaker 2: and that Putin similarly will remain the autocrat of Russia

1513
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:46,799
Speaker 2: for as long as he lives and as he wants.

1514
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: Because it has no authority itself. It's simply kind of

1515
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 2: a rebuke from the international community. To the extent that

1516
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: that matters, difficult to say.

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01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and war crimes were committed on October seventh, there

1518
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,719
Speaker 1: should be accountability for that. There should be war crimes

1519
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: trials for everyone who was involved in murdering innocent civilians

1520
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: on October seventh, And there certainly should be accountability for

1521
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,720
Speaker 1: bby Nan Nahoo and the other you know, government officials

1522
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:17,520
Speaker 1: who've been involved in a siege, creating famine, causing starvation

1523
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: to death of babies and children, and of course the

1524
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: overwhelming annihilation throughout the Gaza driving one number. We're talking

1525
01:17:24,760 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: about college campus and whatever. So this popped up today.

1526
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,080
Speaker 1: Two hundred schools have been targeted by Israel, just as

1527
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: one measure of how overwhelming and how much civilian infrastructure

1528
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 1: was just completely obliterated. Not to mention the forty thousand

1529
01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: plus palestings who've been killed, to overwhelming majority of whom

1530
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 1: were innocent civilians. You know, some seventy percent were women

1531
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: and children. So even if you assume all of the

1532
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: rest of the men were guilty terrorists, whatever, you still

1533
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 1: have overwhelming numbers who were innocent civilians. So, you know,

1534
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: it's discussed that the US would jump in here and

1535
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 1: try to throw their weight around to try to forestall

1536
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: these arrest warrants being issued. But you know why they

1537
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: do it because it's very uncomfortable for the US as well.

1538
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, we want to keep our cloak of supposed morality,

1539
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: and so if you've got the ICC out there issuing

1540
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 1: arrest warrant for your bestie bb net Yahoo, that's going

1541
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable. For the US as well, which has

1542
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 1: gone out of their way to deny that they see

1543
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 1: any evidence of war crimes.

1544
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: More on that in a moment.

1545
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 1: The last thing I'll say about Israel with regards to

1546
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: this is, you know, in some ways their moral standing

1547
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: as a country is more important than maybe any other nation,

1548
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 1: because they use that moral standing and the you know,

1549
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: the horrors of the Holocaust in order to justify continued occupation,

1550
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: continued apartheid state, things that would be seen very clearly

1551
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: in different context if it wasn't Israel. This is used

1552
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: from a propaganda standpoint to justify this entire state, the

1553
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: way that they operate across administrations outside of just bibing

1554
01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:06,839
Speaker 1: net and Yahoo. So that's part of why these threats

1555
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,480
Speaker 1: to the moral standing of Israel specifically are a particular

1556
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: problem for them, and why, at least reportedly maybe even

1557
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: though he knows he's not going to actually be arrested,

1558
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: why he's very concerned about this and putting a lot

1559
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: of pressure in holding emergency meetings to try to figure

1560
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 1: out how to deal with the fallout from what looks

1561
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 1: to be impending as soon as potentially this week arrest warrants.

1562
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: But we'll see if the US is able to thwart

1563
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 1: any of those sort of consequences. We have some exclusive

1564
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 1: pulling that is highly relevant to this discussion of Israel's

1565
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: conduct in a Gaza strip, and we're taking a look

1566
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 1: at these specifically by partisanships. So how do Republicans, Democrats,

1567
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: and independence feel about Israeli military actions, you know, post

1568
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: October seventh. Let's put this first one up on the screen.

1569
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: So the question here is you know which of the

1570
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: following statements comes close.

1571
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 3: To to your view.

1572
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: The options are Israel's committing genocide, Israel's not committing genocide,

1573
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: and don't know. So you have even actually twenty three

1574
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: percent of Republicans saying they think Israel's committing genocide versus

1575
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,160
Speaker 1: forty seven percent who say no. On the Democratic side,

1576
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: it is quite overwhelming. So forty eight percent a near

1577
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: majority say affirmatively yes, eighteen percent say no, only eighteen

1578
01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: percent and another thirty five percent say don't know. So

1579
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: huge plurality, near majority saying yes it's a genocide. If

1580
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: you look specifically at Joe Biden voters, by the way,

1581
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 1: within our poll, it is a majority. And then with

1582
01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: Independence too, you have a plurality who say Israel is

1583
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: committing genocide thirty percent versus twenty three percent who say no,

1584
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: and forty seven percent who say they don't know.

1585
01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,759
Speaker 3: So overall you have about a third.

1586
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,120
Speaker 1: Of a marriage perkins who are saying, yes, this is

1587
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 1: a genocide. That's pretty astonishing when you consider the way

1588
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: that Israel has been viewed with this bipartisan halo for

1589
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: decades and decades and decades, and now you have this

1590
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: sizable minority of about a third and majority Joe Biden

1591
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:22,440
Speaker 1: voters saying they're committing genocide right now. That's an extraordinary

1592
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,240
Speaker 1: shift in public opinion. Let's put the next one up

1593
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: on the screen. Also relevant, highly relevant to the question

1594
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 1: of ICC arrest warrants. So the question here is which

1595
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 1: of these statements comes closest to your view. Israel has

1596
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: committed war crimes in Gaza, Israel has not committed war

1597
01:21:41,240 --> 01:21:45,599
Speaker 1: crimes in Gaza, and don't know. Pretty similar numbers here.

1598
01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: Twenty seven percent of Republicans slightly hire say yes they've

1599
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: committed war crimes, forty one percent say no, thirty one

1600
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,880
Speaker 1: percent say I don't know. With Democrats it is the

1601
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,880
Speaker 1: majority fifty two percent say yes. Only eighteen percent of

1602
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: Democrats say no. And you also have a plurality with

1603
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 1: independence thirty four to twenty two. And let me just

1604
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: put this last one up on the screen, saga, and

1605
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 1: get your reaction to all of these.

1606
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 3: Specifically, we asked the.

1607
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: Question should Netanyahu be charged with war crimes? With Republicans,

1608
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: twenty four say twenty four percent. So according even of Republicans,

1609
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 1: pretty significant say yes, forty two percent say no, thirty

1610
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 1: four percent say don't know. With Democrats it's another forty

1611
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 1: eight percent, it's only seventeen percent say no. So, Joe Biden,

1612
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,799
Speaker 1: only seventeen percent of your voters think this man shouldn't

1613
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: be charged with war crimes, and you're in there intervening.

1614
01:22:37,400 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: Thirty six percent say they don't know. With Independence, you've

1615
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: got another pluralities twenty six percent saying yes, should be

1616
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 1: charged with war crimes, only twenty percent say no, and

1617
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: fifty four percent say they do not know. So this

1618
01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:54,200
Speaker 1: shows you a pretty stark picture of where Americans are

1619
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,000
Speaker 1: in terms of their public opinion of Israel and the

1620
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: way this war has been conducted, which, again, given the

1621
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 1: way people felt about Israel just a year ago, it's

1622
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:05,759
Speaker 1: pretty dramatic shift.

1623
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, It's a titanic shift in terms of the coalition,

1624
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 2: and it will significantly change the way things look for

1625
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,519
Speaker 2: the future. This is why I keep saying that things

1626
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 2: in the near term have not changed all that much,

1627
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 2: but things in the long term are significant, to the

1628
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 2: point where the relationship between the American people and Israel

1629
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 2: will never be the same, and the relationship of the

1630
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 2: international community Israel will specifically never be the same and

1631
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 2: probably more radically different than it is here in our nation.

1632
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 2: What that polling is underscores to me is the radical

1633
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:36,759
Speaker 2: shift that's going on amongst the Democrats, but significantly also

1634
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 2: if you do start to break it down by age,

1635
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 2: which we did amongst the eighteen to twenty five or

1636
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,719
Speaker 2: to eighteen to twenty nine demographic, even when you self

1637
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 2: select for Republicans and others, you see shifts very very

1638
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 2: different away from the way that younger voters, younger Americans

1639
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 2: view their relationship with Israel as compared to the international

1640
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,040
Speaker 2: community and the sixty five plus. So as America ages

1641
01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,679
Speaker 2: up and a lot of the younger voters become middle

1642
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 2: class Americans or thirty to forty five year olds and

1643
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: others with more economic power, probably in general being more

1644
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 2: invested in the political system, there will be a significant change,

1645
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 2: and of course too in terms of the representatives of

1646
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 2: people in Congress who represent them.

1647
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 1: Let me just give you, guys the overall numbers on

1648
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: some of these questions. So in terms of whether people

1649
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: believe war crimes have been committed in Gaza, you have

1650
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: a plurality. This is overall thirty seven percent versus twenty

1651
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: seven percent who say no, and the remainder say they

1652
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: don't know. With regards to bb specifically and whether he

1653
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: should be charged with war crimes, you once again have

1654
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 1: an overall plurality thirty two percent versus twenty six percent

1655
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: who say no, and the remainder say they don't know.

1656
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 1: So it is it is quite an extraordinary dramatic shift

1657
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: for you know, plurality of Americans to be saying, yes,

1658
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 1: we believe that this man who is the leader of

1659
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: Israel should be.

1660
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 3: Charged with war crimes.

1661
01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 1: And you know who else agrees with many Americans on

1662
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 1: this is apparently many members of the State Department. Let's

1663
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: put this up on the screen. There was an internal

1664
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: memo from the State Department that was just leaked and

1665
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: parts of it had been classified, and this journalist was

1666
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:17,479
Speaker 1: able to get their hands on it, with some of

1667
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: the most extensive they write and serious to date warnings

1668
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,919
Speaker 1: to Secretary Blincoln over Israel's possible non compliance with international

1669
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: humanitarian law. Go on to the next piece for some

1670
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 1: of the details. Here, so they say, a joint submission

1671
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:36,080
Speaker 1: from four bureaus Democracy, human Rights and Labor, Population, Refugees, Migration,

1672
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,759
Speaker 1: Global Criminal Justice, and International Organization Affairs raised quote serious

1673
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: concerns over non compliance with international humanitarian law in the

1674
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 1: Israel's conduct of the Gaza War. The assessment from the

1675
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:51,720
Speaker 1: four bureaus said Israel's assurances were quote neither credible nor reliable.

1676
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 3: You don't say.

1677
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: Cited eight examples of Israeli military actions, officials said, raise

1678
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: serious questions about potential violations of international humanitarian law.

1679
01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 3: Let's go on to the next one.

1680
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 1: These include repeatedly striking protected sites and civilian infrastructure, unconscionably

1681
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: high levels of civilian harm to military advantage, taking little

1682
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: action to investigating violations or to hold to account those

1683
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 1: responsible for significant civilian harm, and killing humanitarian workers and

1684
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 1: journalists at an unprecedented rate. Now, there were some who

1685
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:31,639
Speaker 1: participated in this memo who diverged from that opinion. But Sager,

1686
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: this is important for a variety of reasons, but most

1687
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: specifically because it suggests that the State Department is all

1688
01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: these shipments of weapons are in direct contravention of US law,

1689
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: and that Tony Blinken has on his desk information that

1690
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 1: indicates that he is specifically himself violating US law in

1691
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: order to continue shipping these weapons.

1692
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: Day Isa, Yeah, the lazy law and the humanitarian violation

1693
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: is significant problem for them, especially as a lot of

1694
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,439
Speaker 2: the evidence in this stuff mounts. This is particularly why

1695
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: they're working against the ICC and against a lot of

1696
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: the memos and other evidence that they have on their

1697
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: own desk, because it puts them in a bind where

1698
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 2: they either have to comply with US law or don't.

1699
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 2: We've already had this instance where they were supposed to

1700
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 2: sanction that IDF battalion based upon a previous report that

1701
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: was pre October seventh and some of its conduct. They

1702
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,080
Speaker 2: said they were going to do it, or they indicated

1703
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 2: they were going to do it, but then NETANYAHUO and

1704
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: the Speaker freaked out and has yet to materialize. But

1705
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's not the end of that though, because

1706
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 2: if the law and all of that exists. It's either

1707
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 2: going to leak or it's going to go towards Congress

1708
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 2: and people can ask questions about that. But that would

1709
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 2: also require Congress asking the administration why it's not doing

1710
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: its job and.

1711
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:44,799
Speaker 3: To actually do something.

1712
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, some of these people who claimed

1713
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 1: that they know understood that Israel was blocking humanitarian aid

1714
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: and was very likely in contravention of the Lahy law,

1715
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 1: then just turn around and still vote for the weapons.

1716
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: So it requires this memo I believe was prepared because

1717
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 1: Congress was pressing on exactly this issue.

1718
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 3: That's the whole reason why this thing exists.

1719
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,280
Speaker 1: But then they don't actually you act upon the information

1720
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: once it's provided. So in any case, that's what's going

1721
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: on there. The US has proof that Israel is committing

1722
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 1: war crimes. Next time you watch one of these enraging

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01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:22,960
Speaker 1: State Department briefings where they say they're looking into it

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01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: and they don't know and they heard about that, but

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01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: they're going to ask Israel about or whatever, just keep

1726
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: in mind Tony Blinkn has multiple reports from inside his

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01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: own State Department telling him, yes, they are committing war

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01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:37,600
Speaker 1: crimes and they are just choosing to ignore that and

1729
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 1: violate US law in order to continue this onslaught and

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01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: atrocities against Palestinians. All right, there's a little flap between

1731
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: Congresswomen Ilhan Omar, who visited some of the student protesters,

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01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:56,160
Speaker 1: and ADL's Jonathan Greenblat that we wanted to go over

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01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: for you. So first of all, let's take a listen

1734
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: to what congress Woman Omar had to say that caused

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01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: this hole.

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Speaker 14: Star you think this will translate to the Jewish students

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01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 14: who are facing anti semitism here on canvas.

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Speaker 8: So I actually met a lot of Jewish students that

1739
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 8: are in the Incabinet, and I think it is really

1740
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,120
Speaker 8: unfortunate that people don't care about the fact that.

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01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 6: All Jewish kids should be kept safe and that we

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01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 6: should not have to tolerate anti semitism or bigotry for

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01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 6: all Jewish students, whether they are progenocide or anti genocide.

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01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: So that is the part that's head people off.

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01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: And she said, listen, all Jewish students should be safe,

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01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: whether or not they're pro genocide. Like in her you know,

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01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,400
Speaker 1: she believes that as I do, what Israel's doing and

1748
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: godda strip is a genocide, and there are people who

1749
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: support that. So in her framing and mind those people

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01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 1: are pro genocide, she's saying, even if they are progenocide,

1751
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: they should.

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01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: Be so safe.

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01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,799
Speaker 1: And the people who are anti genocide, who are protesting

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01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: over here should also be safe. And I one hundred

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01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,839
Speaker 1: percent co signed those comments.

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01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny because the ADL put this out there.

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01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: Let's put this up there on the screen, it says,

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01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:07,679
Speaker 2: watch this clip. It features Ilhan walking through Columbia proclaiming

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01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,839
Speaker 2: that Jewish students do not have to tolerate anti semitism

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01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 2: when they're progenocide or anti genocide. It is patently false

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01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 2: and a blood libel to sugg You know where does

1762
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 2: this blood libel shit ever end it? Just again, these

1763
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 2: terms have lost on me that any Jewish students are

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01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 2: quote progenocide. It is gas leading, gaslighting to impute that

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01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 2: Jewish people are somehow at fault for being harassed in

1766
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 2: menace with signs and logosts literally calling for their own extermination.

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01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 2: It is abhorrent that a sitting member of Congress would

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01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 2: slander a group of young people in such a cold

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01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: and oh, oh really, this is how people get killed.

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01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: So you don't think young people should be slandered.

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01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:44,839
Speaker 2: Al's joologize, I am not holding my breath. Ilhan Omar responded,

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01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: let's put this up there on the screen. She says,

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01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:49,720
Speaker 2: this is the progenocide I was talking about. Can you

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01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: condemn this? Is like I've condemned anti Semitism and bigotry

1775
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 2: of all kind. Kill all Arabs. They're all Hamas, all

1776
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 2: grotesquely evil level gasa. So it is quite you know,

1777
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: kind of amusing now what people know. I don't use

1778
01:31:01,439 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: the term genocide, war crimes, international law because I think

1779
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 2: all that is fake and it's completely in the eye

1780
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,799
Speaker 2: of the beholder. But I do think it is funny

1781
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,520
Speaker 2: to me that and this is I've observed this too rhetorically,

1782
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: and I saw it in your debate on Piers Morgan.

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01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:17,880
Speaker 2: The problem that a lot of the pro Israel people have,

1784
01:31:18,120 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 2: like in that instance, is they are very willing to

1785
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,920
Speaker 2: be like, oh, you got to smear these young kids.

1786
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 2: It's not a genocide. These kids are anti Semites, you know,

1787
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: they use like catch all language and moralistic language try

1788
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 2: against their opponents. But in general, from what I have noticed,

1789
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: from Norm Finkel's to even the most extreme you know,

1790
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:38,000
Speaker 2: pro Palestinian voices, at least in the relative mainstream and discourse,

1791
01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: are always willing to be like, yes, I do condemn

1792
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 2: October seventh, I condemn anti Semitism. And part of the

1793
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,040
Speaker 2: problem is that the pro Israel side is not willing

1794
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 2: to give the same even rhetorical clutch, I guess to

1795
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 2: their opponents, and it just makes them look like either

1796
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 2: like double standard or sissy. Is like here, like you

1797
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 2: can't say that, you know, what is it from the

1798
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 2: river to the sea or whatever, or is genocidal and

1799
01:32:01,560 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 2: then turn around and then not condemn on your side

1800
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: exactly statements like kill the Arabs or level Gossa or whatever,

1801
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 2: because you do agree with that, and you know there's

1802
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:15,479
Speaker 2: a certain you lose the morality whenever that is what

1803
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 2: you're advocating for. And I just want people to be honest.

1804
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: Michael Tracy said that recently. He's like, all I want

1805
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 2: is people to be honest. But you can't sit there

1806
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 2: and be using terms like blood libel and going after

1807
01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: kids and students on the one hand, and then on

1808
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 2: the other hand be upset when other people are going

1809
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:30,840
Speaker 2: to do it straight back at you.

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01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so put in green blood statement back up guys

1811
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: on the screen.

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01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:36,679
Speaker 3: What was that?

1813
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:40,559
Speaker 1: That was eighty seven or whatever block we're on seven?

1814
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 3: There we go? All right?

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01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:46,639
Speaker 1: He says it is patently false and a blood libel. Yeah,

1816
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 1: so suggest that any Jewish students are pro genocide?

1817
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:53,479
Speaker 3: Oh really? Oh really?

1818
01:32:54,120 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: Because I just watched you, sir on MSNBC accuse Jewish

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01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: Voice for Peace of being an Iranian proxy Ala Hesbola

1820
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: or Humas. And I know you for a fact believe

1821
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: that Hamas is a genocidal terrorist group. You literally just

1822
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 1: slandered and smeared Jewish students as being genocidal yourself. And

1823
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: now you're upset when ilhan Omar actually accurately characterizes some

1824
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 1: positions as pro genocide.

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01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,800
Speaker 3: So save it, save it.

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01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,200
Speaker 1: And it's so true what you're saying, Zagera is like

1827
01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:38,720
Speaker 1: this is really not complicated. And this goes back to

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01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: this whole one of the you know, discourse talking points

1829
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: or whatever about the student protesters right now, it's like

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01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: they don't even know what they're tie. These kids, I

1831
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,439
Speaker 1: don't even know what they're protesting. They don't understand. But

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01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: some of these things are complic I like the history,

1833
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: if you know all the ins and outs. Yeah, that's

1834
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:55,160
Speaker 1: it's complex, it's a lot to know, but you can

1835
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 1: also very simply have a moral standard of killing innocent

1836
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: civilians is wrong. It was wrong when it happened on

1837
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Speaker 1: October seventh, and it's wrong when it happens when Israel's

1838
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: doing it. That isn't hard, it's not complex, and if

1839
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 1: you pull people, I think the overwhelming majority will agree

1840
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,160
Speaker 1: with that sentiment. But you have to apply it across

1841
01:34:14,200 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 1: the board. And when we've had months and months and

1842
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: months of the slaughter only happening on one.

1843
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,479
Speaker 3: Side of the equation, guess what.

1844
01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:26,599
Speaker 1: They can't acknowledge that, yes, killing innocent civilians is wrong

1845
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: because they're faced with day after day after day of

1846
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,760
Speaker 1: kids and women and schools being bombed, a church is

1847
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,760
Speaker 1: being bombed, in hospitals being bombed. So you have to

1848
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: just either pretend that's not happening or butt hamas it

1849
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 1: to death. And at this point it's just it's worn

1850
01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 1: completely thin. So they can't take that clear moral position

1851
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:50,680
Speaker 1: because their whole thing would fall apart if they did so.

1852
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 1: In any case, hilarious fake freak out over ilhan Omar

1853
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,599
Speaker 1: saying something that is correct, and also it is very

1854
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,880
Speaker 1: consistent frankly, even if it's raised in a way that

1855
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 1: makes people uncomfortable with American principles, which is, listen, even

1856
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:08,160
Speaker 1: if you have speech that is so abhorrent as for

1857
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,520
Speaker 1: it to be pro genocide, even those people should be protected.

1858
01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:15,400
Speaker 1: Even they should be safe, even if they are saying

1859
01:35:15,479 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 1: something that is, you know, advocating for a crime against humanity,

1860
01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: even those individuals deserve to be safe. Now that sounds controversial,

1861
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,599
Speaker 1: but it is a bedrock principle of America, something you know,

1862
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,320
Speaker 1: that is incredibly dear to me and I think many

1863
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: other people in the nation. The other the last thing

1864
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: I'll say about green Blatz thing is like, you know,

1865
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,720
Speaker 1: Jewish people are just like any other people, Like some

1866
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 1: are going to have good views, bad views, be good people,

1867
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,759
Speaker 1: bad people, et cetera. And the fact that they're Jewish

1868
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 1: doesn't take criticism like you still have to be able

1869
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: to criticize people. It doesn't doesn't mean like any sort

1870
01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:59,080
Speaker 1: of criticism is off the table, if so facto because

1871
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: they're Jewish. But that's exactly what he and Adl and

1872
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:06,320
Speaker 1: many elite politicians, Richie Torres.

1873
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:06,960
Speaker 3: And all these other people.

1874
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly what they want, which is in and of

1875
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: itself a form of racism, saying like no Jew can

1876
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: is able to hold that viewpoint. It's like no Jewish

1877
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: people are complex like everybody else and have a wide

1878
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:20,000
Speaker 1: variety of opinions and are able to be anywhere on

1879
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 1: the spectrum, even places on the spectrum that I find.

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01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,200
Speaker 3: To be horrified.

1881
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,360
Speaker 2: My most controversial opinion is that Jews are just like

1882
01:36:25,400 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 2: everybody else and should be treated as Yeah, and I

1883
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 2: think that about blacks, whites, whatever, Indians, any other group.

1884
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you should be treated specially. I guess

1885
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,840
Speaker 2: that's very controversial and equal application of the law, something

1886
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,439
Speaker 2: that we allegedly were founded on and fought a civil

1887
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 2: war for.

1888
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: But I think sectarianism is very destructive and framing this

1889
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: as like a religious conflict is very dangerous and destructive,

1890
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 1: and it's not accurate when you have Jewish voices for peace,

1891
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: when you have so many protests movements organized by Jews

1892
01:36:56,200 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: who are anti Zionist Jews, it's.

1893
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 3: It's a political conflict.

1894
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 1: It's a conflict at its core over land and morality

1895
01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 1: and protection of civilians. That's what the conflict is about.

1896
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 1: And the minute that you make this into this like

1897
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 1: clash of civilization's religious conflict. That's part of why this

1898
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,360
Speaker 1: has gotten so has drawn out for so many decades,

1899
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:24,760
Speaker 1: because that actually confuses the situation and makes it much

1900
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: more difficult to resolve.

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01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, absolutely, all right, move on. Fun story, last story.

1902
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,840
Speaker 2: This has had this in the show. It's just yeah,

1903
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean fun for some psychotic some others might say,

1904
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,360
Speaker 2: let's go and put this up there on the screen.

1905
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 2: South Dakota Governor Kirsty no has written a new book

1906
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:47,440
Speaker 2: and brags about killing her fourteen month old dog. And

1907
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating here at all. I'm going to read

1908
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:53,560
Speaker 2: you directly from what she said. She said Cricket was

1909
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 2: a wire hair pointer about fourteen months old. It was

1910
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,200
Speaker 2: a female dog that quote had an aggressive personality who

1911
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 2: she was trying to train as a hunting dog. She

1912
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:06,800
Speaker 2: took Cricket on a pheasant hunt with older dogs. Noam

1913
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,360
Speaker 2: says she had hoped to come calm the young dog

1914
01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 2: down and teach her how to behave Unfortunately, Cricket ruined

1915
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 2: the hunt, going out of her mind with excitement, chasing

1916
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 2: all those birds and having the time of her life

1917
01:38:17,760 --> 01:38:21,559
Speaker 2: aka What Dogs Do. Nom then describes calling Cricket using

1918
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 2: an electric callar to attempt to bring her under control.

1919
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:26,960
Speaker 2: She says that nothing worked. On the way home after

1920
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: the hunt, she stopped to talk to a local family.

1921
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:32,599
Speaker 2: The dog escaped and attacked the family's chickens. She said

1922
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:37,160
Speaker 2: she was simply untrainable, behavior like a trained assassin. When

1923
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:40,639
Speaker 2: Noam finally grabbed Cricket, she says, the dog whipped around

1924
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 2: to bite me after she was after she was grabbed.

1925
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 2: Through it all, she says, Cricket was just the picture

1926
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 2: of pure joy. She then writes, I hated that dog,

1927
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 2: dangerous to anyone she came into contact with, worse than

1928
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 2: worse than useless as a hunting dog. At that moment,

1929
01:38:57,320 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: I realized I had to put her down. It was

1930
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,439
Speaker 2: not a pleasant job, but it had to be done.

1931
01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: And after it was over, I realized another unpleasant job

1932
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 2: needed to be done. And she talks about killing a

1933
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:12,880
Speaker 2: nasty male goat that was also on their property. So

1934
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Speaker 2: basically what she describes here is murdering a fourteen month

1935
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 2: old dog that was acting like a dog. Now I've

1936
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,800
Speaker 2: seen some justification for this, like whoa, you know? What

1937
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:25,599
Speaker 2: do you look? The dogs are tools like everything else. Yeah,

1938
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:29,160
Speaker 2: maybe in eighteen twenty five. You know today there are

1939
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:32,960
Speaker 2: actually a ton of charities that are out there, animal rescues, etc.

1940
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: That specifically take hunting dogs that didn't pass training. There's

1941
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 2: tons of I'm sure they exist in South Dakota too.

1942
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 2: And she's trying to play this off as some like

1943
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 2: hard scrabble living on the land thing. Again, let me

1944
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 2: just repeat, we are not on the frontier times. There

1945
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 2: is no reason to conduct yourself this way. It's completely psychotic,

1946
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 2: especially when you're bragging about it and trying to make

1947
01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: yourself appear tough. This is what she This is her

1948
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:01,280
Speaker 2: defense after this all came out. We love animals, been

1949
01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: tough decisions like this happened all the time on a farm. Sadly,

1950
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,920
Speaker 2: we had to put down three horses a few weeks

1951
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 2: ago that had been in our family for twenty five years.

1952
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 2: If you want more real, honest and politically incorrect stories

1953
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:16,479
Speaker 2: that'll have the media gasping, pre order no back. She's

1954
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: fundraising off this now, trying to sell more of her

1955
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 2: crappy copies of her book. Bragging about killing a fourteen

1956
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 2: month old dog. I mean, it's totally psychotic. It's not

1957
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 2: like the dog was even sick.

1958
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, at fourteen months old, this was puppies. This is

1959
01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:32,599
Speaker 3: still a puppy.

1960
01:40:32,720 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: This is still this dog is still developing, and there

1961
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: are so many other options available to you than just

1962
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 1: like she dragged it into some gravel pin shot it

1963
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,240
Speaker 1: in the head. I was bothered by the goat too.

1964
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 1: I actually grew up with We had pet goat.

1965
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 2: One of my friends has a nasty goat. They don't

1966
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 2: shoot it of.

1967
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: One of our goats was very sweet, yeah, and the

1968
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 1: other one was a little scary. Angela was a little

1969
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 1: bit scary. Okay, we didn't in the head like it

1970
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 1: was fine. You just knew how to deal with goat. Yeah,

1971
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: And goats are highly intelligent and social. The little the

1972
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 1: other one who was named after me, she was named Chrissy.

1973
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 1: She's always try to come in the house like she

1974
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,759
Speaker 1: was a dog. She was like it had like commands.

1975
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,040
Speaker 1: She understood what these are very intelligent animals and for

1976
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 1: you to just like, you know, crully, think this is

1977
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,200
Speaker 1: your only option and then the sickness of thinking this

1978
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 1: is going to like she wrote.

1979
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 3: This a political book.

1980
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 1: This is part of her bid to become Trump's VP

1981
01:41:34,160 --> 01:41:38,639
Speaker 1: pick that you think this is gonna make people think

1982
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,960
Speaker 1: better of you, Like, how little do you think of

1983
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:45,519
Speaker 1: Republican voters or the American people in general that you

1984
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 1: think murdering a puppy is gonna make them feel. Oh,

1985
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: she's tough and she makes the tough choices, et cetera.

1986
01:41:51,560 --> 01:41:54,439
Speaker 1: I have seen some people defending her, which is gross.

1987
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,760
Speaker 1: But I have also seen a lot of bipartisan revulsion,

1988
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,720
Speaker 1: which is understandable.

1989
01:42:00,120 --> 01:42:02,639
Speaker 2: Majority of people are repulsed by yes, and that's why

1990
01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: she's had to clean it up. Since let's put this

1991
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 2: up there. Her latest statement is, and understand why people

1992
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 2: are upset about a twenty year old story of cricket,

1993
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,759
Speaker 2: which you put in your book. By the way, nobody

1994
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,440
Speaker 2: else brought this up. The book is filled with honest

1995
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:17,760
Speaker 2: stories of my life, good and bad days, challenging, painful decisions,

1996
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah. The fact is South Dakota

1997
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: law states that dogs who attack and kill livestock can

1998
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:27,040
Speaker 2: be put down. Given that cricket had shown aggressive behavior

1999
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 2: toward people by biting them, I decided what I did. Now,

2000
01:42:30,200 --> 01:42:32,320
Speaker 2: keep in mind, we're only taking this lady's word for it.

2001
01:42:32,360 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 2: We have no idea if any of this even happened.

2002
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:36,920
Speaker 2: What she's talking about is if somebody's dog goes and

2003
01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:40,280
Speaker 2: kills somebody else's chickens or property, and then even then

2004
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,800
Speaker 2: there's a whole animal process that goes through whenever you

2005
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: decide to put a dog down. It's one of the

2006
01:42:45,280 --> 01:42:48,519
Speaker 2: most extraordinary things you could do whenever it comes to

2007
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 2: for animals, like getting the state to order that a

2008
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,719
Speaker 2: dog be put down after a variety of incidents. Various

2009
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: states have different laws, but she says, whether running the

2010
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 2: ranch or in politics, I have never passed on my

2011
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,080
Speaker 2: responsibilities to anyone else to hand, even if it's hard

2012
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 2: and painful, I follow the law. I was being a

2013
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:07,480
Speaker 2: responsible parent, dog owner, and neighbor. So I'll just reiterate

2014
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 2: the original justification is very clear. She's like, I hated

2015
01:43:11,040 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 2: the dog and it didn't it didn't do what I

2016
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:16,120
Speaker 2: wanted it to do. And I know multiple people actually

2017
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,400
Speaker 2: who have rescued hunting dogs, people dogs who didn't pass

2018
01:43:19,439 --> 01:43:21,200
Speaker 2: hunting training or whatever, which I understand, you know, not

2019
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: every dog or whatever is cut out for it, but

2020
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 2: you know, we're not living on the frontier where you

2021
01:43:25,920 --> 01:43:29,200
Speaker 2: got to kill him for literally no reason. And she's

2022
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 2: bragging about it as if it somehow makes her, you know,

2023
01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:34,519
Speaker 2: big and strong. You know, putting down a horse that's

2024
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:38,200
Speaker 2: been horrifically injured, that's one thing that's sad. And you know,

2025
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:41,519
Speaker 2: even then, you know there's conversations or whatever, but here

2026
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,439
Speaker 2: there's not. There's no justification on it whatsoever. It's just

2027
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 2: I murdered this dog, and that makes me big and strong,

2028
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 2: and that's why you should buy my book and give

2029
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:51,200
Speaker 2: me twenty dollars.

2030
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:51,800
Speaker 3: Believe.

2031
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 15: Yeah.

2032
01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 1: Crazy, And apparently she's kind of fallen in the Trump

2033
01:43:56,000 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: VP yeah esteem.

2034
01:43:58,080 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 3: Anyway, we'll see.

2035
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I had seen reporting previously that any governor

2036
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:07,680
Speaker 1: of a state that has like extreme abortion laws like

2037
01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:10,640
Speaker 1: South Dakota does, heartbeat laws like South Dakota does. I

2038
01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 1: didn't think about that had fallen in Trump's consideration, so

2039
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: she may have been off the table already. Also, Trump

2040
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:18,960
Speaker 1: apparently hates dogs, so I don't know if he would

2041
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:22,360
Speaker 1: have a problem with the story in particular. But the

2042
01:44:22,640 --> 01:44:25,000
Speaker 1: latest is that he's considering Doug Bergram.

2043
01:44:25,280 --> 01:44:27,679
Speaker 2: Wow, that's something.

2044
01:44:27,720 --> 01:44:29,840
Speaker 1: I guess that'd be a dig because he was North Dakota, right,

2045
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: he was South Dakota.

2046
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 2: There was like a rivalry there. You know Doug would

2047
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 2: be bad choice just purely for money purposes. He's a

2048
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 2: billionaire somebody who could fund his campaign. Trump's got money

2049
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:39,559
Speaker 2: issues first campaign, doesn't want to spend any of his own.

2050
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:42,400
Speaker 3: He's certainly not going to like mean ount charisma.

2051
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,960
Speaker 2: I was going to say, there won't be any like that.

2052
01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 2: I feel like he'd be like Mike Pants and just

2053
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: be like, all right, whatever you know, do whatever you want.

2054
01:44:48,640 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't really buy it, though, I think I

2055
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: guess at this point, I'm thinking maybe Tim Scott might

2056
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:54,759
Speaker 1: be the Yeah.

2057
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 2: I've said this before. I think all three of these

2058
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 2: people have an equal chance. I think if it was

2059
01:44:58,280 --> 01:44:59,600
Speaker 2: going to be a woman, I still think it's going

2060
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:02,480
Speaker 2: to be because at least he has got no abortion baggage.

2061
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 2: She's got this whole Harvard thing going for her right now,

2062
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 2: you know, because she's the one who started that whole

2063
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: like moral panic about the Ivy League university.

2064
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 14: Yeah.

2065
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:12,760
Speaker 2: Trump loves her because she served as one of his

2066
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 2: spokespeople for his defense and the impeachment. She knows she's

2067
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 2: very combative on social media and it's total loyal and

2068
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 2: she's socially liberal. Like you know, in the past, you've

2069
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 2: been attacked by the right wing for being more socially liberal,

2070
01:45:22,840 --> 01:45:25,439
Speaker 2: like she voted for the Equality Act in like twenty nineteen.

2071
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:28,480
Speaker 2: So this is somebody who's very much more like trumpist.

2072
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 2: That's if he wants a woman, if he wants a

2073
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:34,240
Speaker 2: black person just for media purposes, affirmative action candidate, it

2074
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:37,200
Speaker 2: would be Tim Scott. If he's feeling really safe and

2075
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,360
Speaker 2: he wants an ideological ally, I think he's gonna pick

2076
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 2: Jade Vans. All three of those things all depend on

2077
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:43,920
Speaker 2: the polling whenever it comes right up to the convention.

2078
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 2: I think it's basically an equal shot for all three

2079
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 2: of those. But we'll see, Crystal, what do you take

2080
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 2: a look at well.

2081
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: As powerful politicians, elite media denizens, and Hollywood celebrities all

2082
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: gathered in DC this past weekend for the annual White

2083
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,080
Speaker 1: House Correspondence Day, they're met with exactly the welcome that

2084
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 1: they deserved. Free Palestine protesters confronted these elites with their

2085
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 1: own hypocrisy and complicity and sanctioning horrifying atrocities against Palestinian civilians,

2086
01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: chanting shame on you at these people who are at

2087
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: worst actively funding and supporting a genocide, and at the

2088
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: very least comfortable with celebrating those who are backing a genocide.

2089
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:27,360
Speaker 1: At one point, a giant Palestinian flag was actually unfurled

2090
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,560
Speaker 1: from a window of the venue itself, the d C

2091
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Hilton Hotel that has played host to this event for

2092
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:36,120
Speaker 1: many years. Protesters even staged a die in to honor

2093
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:39,640
Speaker 1: the one hundred plus journalists who have been killed by

2094
01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:43,599
Speaker 1: the IDF in Gaza, was complete with blood spattered press

2095
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: vest visual reminder that while these so called journalists were

2096
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,400
Speaker 1: putting on ball gowns in their luxury hotel suites, Palestinian

2097
01:46:50,439 --> 01:46:55,400
Speaker 1: journalists we're facing starvation, arrest, torture, and execution for the

2098
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:58,599
Speaker 1: crime of doing their job. The message of these target

2099
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: protests was right on tip target. Of all the in

2100
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,800
Speaker 1: group spectacles in DC, none has become more grotesque or

2101
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:08,679
Speaker 1: more emblematic of the utter bipartisan immorality of American elites

2102
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: than the White House correspondence dinner. The idealized notion of

2103
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,519
Speaker 1: this event is that for one evening, the press and

2104
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 1: the politicians they put aside the combative relationship meant to

2105
01:47:18,080 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: typify interactions between the powerful and the journalists who hold

2106
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 1: them to account, and two together recommit the bedrock importance

2107
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: of the First Amendment in a fierce independent press by

2108
01:47:28,080 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: taking comedic jabs at one another. Given the partisan toothlessness

2109
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 1: though of most of the press, and the raging hypocrisy

2110
01:47:35,479 --> 01:47:39,320
Speaker 1: of everyone involved. In reality, the White House Correspondents Dinner

2111
01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 1: is just a showcase of elite coziness, disconnect, and self congratulation. Now,

2112
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,920
Speaker 1: this year's circus, though of privilege, reached a new low,

2113
01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 1: occurring as it did, amidst the Washington improved genocide and Gazo,

2114
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:52,920
Speaker 1: which has the distinction of being the deadliest and most

2115
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:57,559
Speaker 1: dangerous conflict for journalists ever in history. In fact, it

2116
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 1: appears that on the very day of these festivities, two

2117
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,800
Speaker 1: more Palestinian journalists were killed by the IDF. This would

2118
01:48:04,840 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: be in addition to the one hundred and forty two

2119
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,639
Speaker 1: members of the press who had already been killed by

2120
01:48:10,680 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: the IDF and at least forty who had been arrested. Meanwhile,

2121
01:48:15,360 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: our great ally, the supposed only democracy in the Middle East,

2122
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 1: is promising to shut down media outlets like Al Jazeera

2123
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 1: for their coverage of Gaza and largely blocks the Western

2124
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 1: press from even covering this conflict from the ground at all,

2125
01:48:29,720 --> 01:48:32,080
Speaker 1: and Of course, as these politicians were patting themselves on

2126
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 1: the back for their brave commitment to the First Amendment,

2127
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,799
Speaker 1: they were busy cheering on an authoritarian crackdown on college students.

2128
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 1: Hundreds more students and some faculty were arrested over the weekend.

2129
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,920
Speaker 1: At one event, officers assaulted seventy three year old Green

2130
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: Party candidate Jill Stein with a bicycle for the crime

2131
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:53,680
Speaker 1: of protesting against US government support for a foreign government's

2132
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 1: atrocity filled war. While the politicians sent in the cops,

2133
01:48:57,439 --> 01:49:00,559
Speaker 1: their media allies ran cover by smearing the protesters as

2134
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 1: violent anti Semitic terrorists, platforming the ADLs Jonathan green Blatt

2135
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,840
Speaker 1: to call them Iranian proxies. And by the way, Julian,

2136
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,600
Speaker 1: no Sange, He's still in prison now. None of this

2137
01:49:10,680 --> 01:49:14,040
Speaker 1: stopped attendees from their typical smug, self satisfied rituals and

2138
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:17,320
Speaker 1: empty peons to freedom of speech principles that they clearly

2139
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 1: do not actually believe in.

2140
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:20,959
Speaker 3: You know, I had actually held.

2141
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:24,160
Speaker 1: Out some hope that maybe some brave soul would offer

2142
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:26,840
Speaker 1: at least an echo of two thousand and six. Even

2143
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,840
Speaker 1: Colbert his set at that White House Correspondence dinner during

2144
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:31,160
Speaker 1: the height of the Iraq War, and.

2145
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:31,760
Speaker 3: To George W.

2146
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,760
Speaker 1: Bush's face, it was actually genuinely courageous, the comedian in

2147
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:38,879
Speaker 1: the room, exposing the war hungry journalists and the Yokan

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Speaker 1: in chief himself. I should have known better, though not

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Speaker 1: that I thought Colin Yost had that in him, but

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe someone would say something uncomfortable for the

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Speaker 1: bipartisan elites in the hotel ballroom. Not even close. Instead,

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Speaker 1: the pageantry seemed almost an intentional middle finger to the

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Speaker 1: protesters in the streets who were demanding these pro war

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Speaker 1: elites feel at least a little bit of shame. It

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Speaker 1: was zero shame to be found in that room. Here

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Speaker 1: is Colin Yost closing out the night, slabbering all over

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden for his supposed decency and the decency by

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Speaker 1: extension of the entire establishment press corps. If you can

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Speaker 1: stomach it, take a listen.

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Speaker 4: My grandpa voted for decency, and decency is why we're

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Speaker 4: all here tonight. Decency is how we're able to be

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Speaker 4: here tonight. Decency is how we're able to make jokes

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Speaker 4: about each other and one of us doesn't go to

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Speaker 4: prison after we go to the Newsmax after party. And

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Speaker 4: when you look at the levels of freedom throughout history

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Speaker 4: and even around the world today, this is the exception.

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Speaker 4: This freedom is incredibly rare, and the journalists in this

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Speaker 4: room help protect that freedom, and we cannot ever take

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Speaker 4: that for granted. So, mister President, I thank you for

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Speaker 4: your decency on behalf of my grandfather, and I thank

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Speaker 4: all of you, almost all of you, for your decency

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Speaker 4: as well. I am very honored and grateful that you

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Speaker 4: invited me here tonight.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, and good night.

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Speaker 1: Your decency. It literally nauseates me to hear these words

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Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 3: But they are actually just too perfect.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden has helped to murder tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: kids in the Gaza Strip. Hundreds of thousands more are

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Speaker 1: starving as we speak. A million have been displaced, how

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Speaker 1: many orphaned, how many will spend their lives disabled by

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Speaker 1: amputations and severe trauma. And you have the gall to

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Speaker 1: call this man decent? Why because so pat Mitch McConnell

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Speaker 1: and Mike Johnson on the back as they fund their

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Speaker 1: genocide together.

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Speaker 3: It is so twisted, proving.

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Speaker 1: Once again the reigning ideology in Washington is decorum, delusion

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Speaker 1: and sociopathy. While Palestinian journalists were being killed, they took

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Speaker 1: time out of the evening to honor one of the

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Speaker 1: chief White House stenographers of this war, Israeli journalist Baroque Revied,

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Speaker 1: writes for Axios. He's contributor to CNN. The former IDF

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Speaker 1: soldier turned journalist has been the foremost recipient of White

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Speaker 1: House leaks about how upset Biden is with net Yahoo.

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Speaker 3: He's upset, He's really upset, he is really really upset.

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Speaker 1: Failed attempt to gaslight Americans into thinking Biden gives a

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Speaker 1: shit about Palestinian slaughter while not moving American policy a single.

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Speaker 3: Iota of Revied.

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Speaker 1: The White House Correspondence Association wrote, quote Barock Revie's reporting

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Speaker 1: and displayed deep, almost intimate levels of sourcing in the

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Speaker 1: US and abroad. Intimate levels of sourcing. Indeed, even the

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Speaker 1: single mention of Gaza came in typical, sanitized, accountability free language.

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Speaker 1: NBC's Kelly O'Donnell said, quote, since October, about one hundred

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Speaker 1: journalists have been killed, most of those deaths in Gaza,

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Speaker 1: according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

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Speaker 3: Really who killed them?

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Speaker 1: Kelly, how many of the people in the room have

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Speaker 1: ever mentioned these press murders a single time. As for

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Speaker 1: Biden himself, these dozens of murdered Gaza journalists, they didn't

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Speaker 1: come up even once. But he did raise a toast

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Speaker 1: to his supposed commitment to democracy.

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Speaker 14: Move past the horse race numbers and the gotcha moments

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Speaker 14: and the distractions, the side shows that have come to dominate,

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Speaker 14: to sensualize our sensationalize our politics, and focus on what's

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Speaker 14: actually a stake. And I think in your hearts you

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Speaker 14: know it. It was at State the stakes couldn't be higher.

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Speaker 14: Every single one of us says rose to play a

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Speaker 14: serious role to play making your democracy endures, American democracy.

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Speaker 14: I have more of my role, but all due respect,

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Speaker 14: so do you. In the age of disinformation, credible information

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Speaker 14: that people can trust is more important than ever. And

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Speaker 14: that makes you, and I mean it's from the bottom

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Speaker 14: of heart, makes you more important than ever. So tonight

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Speaker 14: I'd like to make it to to a free press,

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Speaker 14: to an informed citizen room, to an American where a

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Speaker 14: freedom and democracy endure. God bless America.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe, kind of hard to find incredible on

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Speaker 1: this whole democracy thing. When you rig the primary so

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Speaker 1: you had no opponent, when you're putting out statements smearing

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Speaker 1: those who protest against your policies as racist, justifying a

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Speaker 1: brutal police crackdown when a lobby representing foreign government interests

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Speaker 1: has vastly more influence than your average American citizen. So

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Speaker 1: spare me your warnings about how democracy is on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: Now to the.

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Speaker 1: Protesters, God bless you. I hope none of these people

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Speaker 1: can go anywhere without hearing about the children they are

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Speaker 1: helping to starve, the journalists they are helping to kill.

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Speaker 1: American people are with you, The world is with you.

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Speaker 1: And one day all these smug assholes running cover for

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Speaker 1: or active prosecuting a genocide, they're going to pretend they

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Speaker 1: were on your side all along. But we we will

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Speaker 1: never forget t Sager. I know you're a big fan,

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Speaker 1: and if.

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for watching me. Really appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I and know it was a long one today, but

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Speaker 2: we had a lot of exclusive content that we wanted

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