1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: with LaVar airings Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Fox 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: And Away we go here on a Tuesday morning. 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 3: It is two pros and a couple of year Fox 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 3: Sports Radio Brady Quinn, Jonas Dox with you here. 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 2: No LeVar Arrington, I know, yeah. 8 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 4: He's traveling though he's making his way back. 9 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: He's making his way back. It's on the organ trail. 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 5: We have a problem. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 3: LaVar is the only guy I know traveled from State 12 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 3: College and it may as well have been Singapore. 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: Like, I have no idea how long it takes you 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: to give. 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 4: Me somehow State College is in a completely different hemisphere for LeVar. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: Like he's got to go through warps and and booby 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: traps and all the other things to get back back 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: into Southern calif anyway. 19 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 4: Can I be honest, Like I've been to State College 20 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 4: a number of times. There's morning flights out the next day, 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 4: and for whatever reason before never takes those into the 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 4: connecting And you can also drive to Pittsburgh, you can 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 4: drive to a few other spots, but he, for some reason, 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 4: always takes the late flight out and then somehow that 25 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 4: was an issue, I guess, and then Monday went by 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: and somehow he still wasn't able to fly out. I mean, 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 4: it's it's hard to put it together, but I've been 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: there multiple times, had no issues getting out of state college. 29 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: And now why would you think that he would take 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: the latest flight possible. 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 6: What would be the reasoning behind that. 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: Is, Well, Saturday night was a night game. It's the 33 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: white out, which for Penn State fans. And then by 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: the way, people were chiming in too much Penn State yesterday. Look, 35 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 4: we're done. We're not gonna talk about it. We're not 36 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: gonna talk about the white out and what a great 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: atmosphere it was, even though it still doesn't help them 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: win big games. But we're not gonna talk about that anymore. 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: We're talking about LeVar and not making it back in time. Yeah, 40 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: that's all. That's all we're saying. 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: And by the way, it's a great game. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 4: It's a great game. 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: We talk about it just to to a ps the 44 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: people that are fed up with the Penn State rhetoric. 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: It's like, is what it is, and it's gone to 46 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: the two of. 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: The best teams in college football. By the way, yeah, 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 4: there's some of those team there's those people who are 49 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 4: ticked off. They probably were like SEC fans, and they're 50 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 4: just upset that there's really no dominant SEC team. I mean, 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 4: if you went to for the four best teams in 52 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: the country right now, it's probably Ohio State. I think 53 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: it's fair to say Oregon, Miami's in there, and then 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: i'd probably say Penn State. 55 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: The way that game went, Uh yeah, yeah, that's that 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: makes sense. 57 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 4: And then I think I think SEC folks get a 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: little hurt. So what about well, who who you want 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 4: to throw in their Obama old miss? All right, we 60 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: canna start talking about and them, We're gonna start talking 61 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 4: about them then. 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know SEC fans, I mean bitter and 63 00:02:59,080 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 2: reasonable at times. 64 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: Well, you know, college sports fans have a hard time 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: like dealing with the here and now, and they kind 66 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 4: of relied looking back on history. It's like, well, you know, 67 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 4: the SEC was dominating the past couple of years. Now 68 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: it's been the Big Ten and they're like what what what? No, 69 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 4: it's not like yeah, no, Michigan, they'll have to say 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 4: they won the national championship. They're like, oh, all right, 71 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 4: well we were dominating before that, it's like, well, yeah, 72 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 4: that doesn't matter now. I mean SC fans, They're like, no, 73 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: SC still matters. You're like, no, that was like two 74 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: decades ago when you guys were paying people, you know, 75 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: and no one else wasn't maybe besides the SEC. It's 76 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: like that era ended when Pete Carroll left to go 77 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 4: to Seattle. Yeah, everybody, no one cares anymore. No one 78 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: east of LA cares about Southern California anymore and their 79 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: football program. 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: Funny, I got news for you. Nobody out here cares 81 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: about USC and their football program. Okay, and they can 82 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: say whatever they want stop all right, it's not the same. 83 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 3: It's not any more close to the same as it was, 84 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: and it's not any more close to the same as 85 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: it is in the Midwest and in the South. It 86 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 3: just isn't and it's never going to be. 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Go check out our brand new channel 98 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: on YouTube again, just search two pros FSR and subscribe. 99 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 3: Congratulations to the Miami Dolphins, they are in the win column. 100 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: Congratulations fins to the left, fins to the right. The 101 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 3: Miami Dolphins going all black unis last night and get 102 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: it done against the vaunted New York Jets. And congratulations. 103 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: Darren Waller's back took some time off, right, man, good, 104 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: got divorced time off. 105 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: Oh that's not good. 106 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Tried to tried to make a rap song, and next 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: thing you know, he's out there on Monday Night football 108 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: during double barrel action and he's out there catching a 109 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns. So congrats to Darren Waller. But the 110 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 3: story of that game was the grotesque and brutal dislocated 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 3: me of Tyreek Hill. 112 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 4: Just awful, awful, awful, awful. 113 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: Man. 114 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: That looked as bad as it looks. Although, do you 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 4: want to share with the audience of what you texted. 116 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: Lavarn I, well, which part I feel like? 117 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: Well, no, no, no, no, I want you to text the 118 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 4: part where I kind of pushed back of it on you. 119 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: Okay, so I would. 120 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: I was trying to figure out if it was just 121 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: the ankle, and this was my thought process. 122 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: If it was just the ankle, just. 123 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: Tell everyone what you said. 124 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 3: Okay it was, you know, did he if it was 125 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: facing in the other direction, is it worse? 126 00:05:58,240 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: All right? 127 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: So because it was facing inward, does it make it better? 128 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: Because you can turn your ankle inward and you know, 129 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 3: maybe it just pops off again. 130 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 2: This is when I thought it was the ankle, And then. 131 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 4: I can I read what you texted? Sure, okay, the 132 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 4: exact text you sent was is it dislocated slash displaced 133 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: at the knee or the ankle? Then isn't it better 134 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 4: that it turned in and not out? Now you can 135 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 4: defend yourself in whatever way. My general point is, did 136 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 4: you flipping see how that thing was hanging? 137 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 2: I didn't. 138 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 4: It looked like something that as right now. I look 139 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: around our neighborhood and people starting to get out their 140 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 4: Halloween decorations, and you know, when they put together those 141 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: like distorted bodies either up against the wall around their 142 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 4: front yard. That's what it looked like. Yes, like my 143 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: kids were I had it on. My daughters were watching 144 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: and they're like, what just happened? And I get we're 145 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: not going to go back and watch that, Like that 146 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 4: is as gruesome as it gets. 147 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: I didn't see the other angle until I saw doctor 148 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: David Chow posted the video of it and the slow 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: mo and then I realized, oh god, that's his knee. 150 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: And yeah, it's like everything in his knee too, by 151 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 4: the way, And the biggest concern is nerve damage. That's 152 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: why they rushed him to the hospital because that when 153 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: it bends like that in out whatever direction you're talking about, 154 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: there's there's potential for nerve nerve damage, which could be 155 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: you know, obviously impact like career ending impact and impacting 156 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: his life moving forward. 157 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel spoke after the game, the head coach of 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 3: the Dolphins, about the injury to Tyreek Hill. 159 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 7: It was a dislocation. He was probably in the best 160 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 7: spirits of any player that I've ever you know, it's 161 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 7: such a terrible experience, but he was. He immediately had 162 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 7: white eyes and was talking, I'm good, just make sure 163 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 7: the guys get this win. 164 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 6: You know, he was focused on the team. 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 7: So outside of that, I'm sure I'll be giving more 166 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 7: information tomorrow. 167 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: His speed is his superpower. I can't imagine. 168 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 4: It's not a size. 169 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I. 170 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 3: Can't imagine that he's the same after this, And I 171 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 3: don't want to be doom and gloom about it. But 172 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: when does anybody ever come back and they're the same 173 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: from an injury like that? 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't think of one. I mean, well, Adrian Peterson. 175 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't when he towards ACL but right, 176 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 4: it wasn't as gruesome as this. But he did come 177 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 4: back and have that ridiculous season where I believe he 178 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: went through over two thousand yards. Although that was kind 179 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 4: of it. He struggled after that. I think there's a 180 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 4: lot of things working against him. He's thirty one years old, 181 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: you know, these are the sorts of things that you 182 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: know are harder to come by the older you get. 183 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 4: I don't know where he stood with the team. There 184 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 4: was so much chatter and there's a lot of things 185 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 4: that have been said about, you know, whether it was 186 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 4: his frustrations or his track, the off the field stuff. 187 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: Just so many things. I'm not sure how the team 188 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 4: viewed him. So there's just there's a lot of things 189 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: up in the air, I think now. And look, the 190 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 4: one thing he has going for him to his advantage 191 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 4: is him being a little smaller size of stature, and 192 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 4: that should allow him to come back. And and you know, 193 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: it's not like he's a big offensive lineman. He's got 194 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: to put a bunch of weight on that. You know, 195 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 4: he's a receiver. But to your point, the cutting, the explosiveness, 196 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 4: all that, you know, to be able to get that back, 197 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 4: it could It could take a couple of years if 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: it ever comes back. 199 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 3: It's just like and then you just sort of the 200 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: you stereoone mortality in the eyes because you realize and 201 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: there's probably that it's probably shakes players on the field 202 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 3: as well too, who realize, oh, just like that, it 203 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: could go like that's it. 204 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: It's like that. 205 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that wasn't a weird That wasn't that crazy 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 4: of a play. It's like the way he went down, 207 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: the way the defender kind of rolled on him. You know, 208 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: just it was it can it could happen a point. 209 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you've dislocated your kneecap before. 210 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 3: Right, that's a that's a great point. Yeah, I mean 211 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: it's the same thing. Also from experience when people were 212 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: I saw somebody made the comment like, yeah, it's dislocated. 213 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 3: Now they're trying to figure out if there's any ligament damage. Hey, yeah, 214 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: that's what happens when you dislocate stuff, all right, When 215 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: you dislocate stuff, there's ligament damage. 216 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 4: So that, well, you dislocating your kneecap is the patel 217 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 4: is different than you actually dislocating your entire knee. 218 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a fair point, but. 219 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: Like they're not even comparable to one another, just so 220 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 4: you know. 221 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I just so you know, all right, and 222 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: dislocated my kneecap all right after my cousin popped it in. 223 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: I got back up, I hit the. 224 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: Free throw and refused an ambulance, all right, I refused 225 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 3: any of that. I hopped in a car, I went 226 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: to some vet because the urgent care was closed over 227 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 3: in Monmouth, Illinois, And next thing you know, I was 228 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: on the mend and I was never able to walk 229 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: the same again. But and it led to my hip 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: issues and all that because I was lazy. 231 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 6: With my rehab. 232 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 2: But that's you know, It's not about me here. 233 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: It's about Tyreek Hill and the fact that that guy's 234 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: career is just probably never going to be the same again. 235 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: If he's got a career after this. I mean, it's 236 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: like it's it's bad. So I don't know. 237 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 4: I mean, not trying to be dooming gloom with you 238 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 4: on this one, but hall of fame if this is 239 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: if this is it, I mean he's been a you know, 240 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: first team All Pro five times. He's been a Pro Bowler, 241 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: I think what eight times? Like I would I would 242 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: say he's a shoeing for being a Hall of Famer. 243 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: Is that fair to say? 244 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: Or I okay, well this is and I guess this 245 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: is where this stuff comes in. And I don't know 246 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: how much of an impact it should have, but I 247 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: do think it should have some impact the off field 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: stuff because there's a lot, yeah I know, And and 249 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: so that's what was. 250 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 4: The past there. I get all of that, And look 251 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 4: that's for someone else to judge and someone else to 252 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 4: make that case. I'm talking purely football. If you look 253 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: at his resume purely football, I think he's a Hall 254 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 4: of Famer. Yeah, I think he's He's got the resume 255 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: for that that component's for someone else to judge him on. 256 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 4: But I mean he's won a Super Bowl. You know, 257 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: he's got that as part of it as well. 258 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, he got better when he went 259 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 2: to Miami. 260 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 3: That's the other part of this to where people say, 261 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 3: oh my god, he's leaving Patrick Mahomes for Tua Tako 262 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: bay Loo. It's like, look at the numbers. He got better. 263 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: His numbers got better with Tua. 264 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 4: He got targeted more. I mean that's that's why he got, 265 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: you know, better with Tua. You know, if you go 266 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 4: back to twenty twenty three, I mean he got the 267 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: most targets he's ever gotten his career. So, like you're 268 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: assuming he actually should go for a lot of yards. 269 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: He led the league obviously receiving and touchdown receptions all that, 270 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 4: But when you're when you're getting targeted one hundred and 271 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: seven times, you know a year like you you're gonna 272 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: put up a lot of stats. 273 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: In that case, you remember when he missed the He 274 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 3: missed one game back that year, and I think he 275 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: was just over two hundred yard shy of two thousand. 276 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: He was a monster that season. 277 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think he missed the game too, right, Yeah, yeah, 278 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: he was one that just he missed that game, like, 279 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: oh well maybe you know that would have been his 280 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to go to go get the two grand But 281 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: I just yeah, it's it's unfortunate you made the comment earlier. 282 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know where he stood with the team, 283 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 3: And we were discussing when the latest legal issues came 284 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: out that while there's all these rumblings about him potentially 285 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 3: being traded or that he would be a trade candidate 286 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: depending on how the season was going, when that stuff 287 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 3: came out, that probably dimmed any chances of that. And 288 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 3: now with this, it's you know, Miami's gonna have to 289 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 3: figure this out with with Jalen Waddle and with with 290 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 3: Darren Waller apparently who's off the at a retirement and 291 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 3: catching touchdowns on Monday Night football. But I just yeah, 292 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: it's that's that's a rough way to go for Tyreek 293 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 3: Hill there. Supposedly he's at the hospital getting test done. 294 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: If any of that news comes out or any of that, 295 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: you know, more information on the injury comes out, will 296 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: have it obviously throughout the course of the show. Also 297 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: should be pointed out the Jets just aren't good man, 298 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 3: like I don't you know. And if you want to 299 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: talk about a team whose season would be viewed very 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: differently based on a sixty yard field goal in Game 301 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 3: one against the Pittsburgh Steelers, that's the one. Because now 302 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: we look at Pittsburgh and it's like, man, they might 303 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: actually win their division and the Jets are sitting at 304 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: zero to four and are just the same old Jets. 305 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: And if that game goes the other direction, I think 306 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: it changes the complete conversation of New York and how 307 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: they're viewed. Because last night it wasn't good. They were 308 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: turning the ball over. 309 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 4: Oh it's just I don't agree with you on that 310 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: because I think we see Week one a lot of times. 311 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: Bad at football teams are going to be able to 312 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 4: play with better football teams. We see surprises all the 313 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 4: time in the NFL. Week one. The Jets are not 314 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: a good football team. They're a talented team, They've had 315 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 4: a lot of good players, but they are not a 316 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: good football team. And they're undisciplined. Thirteen penalties last night, 317 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 4: you're kidding me, you know, three fumbles? Justin fields does 318 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 4: some things where you're just say like, there's not many 319 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: other guys if anyone in the league can do what 320 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: he can do. When he's scrambling around running for what 321 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 4: was a forty five yard fifty yard touchdown, whatever it was, 322 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 4: you know, that play was ridiculous. But you can't live 323 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 4: and die by that. In the NFL. There's just there's 324 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: so much to be desired still in the passing game 325 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 4: and just his you know, evolution as a quarterback, continuing 326 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: to grow and adapt and get better in that way, 327 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: and they just they're not there yet. So it's I 328 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 4: understand it was a close loss week one, but that happens. 329 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 4: You know again, there's good there's good football teams who 330 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: struggle week one and then we kind of see what 331 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 4: they are. I think Pittsburgh's a good football team. I 332 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 4: don't think the Jets are. And it's unfortunate because when 333 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 4: we picked our own three teams, you know, I got 334 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 4: stuck with the Jets and that's who I had to pick. 335 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 4: I should have went with the Giants, but we'll see. 336 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: I still think they'll win some football games this year. 337 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 4: I'm just I'm not overly optimistic. 338 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the and by the way, just so people 339 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: know a little behind the scenes, Brady throws out the idea, Hey, 340 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: let's let's find an OH to three team and we 341 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 3: have to sell them as having hope for the remainder 342 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: of the season. And so the obvious choice was the Texans. 343 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 344 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: I was the first to respond. I knew that was 345 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: the obvious choice. I took the Dolphins. He's like, nah, 346 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to take the Texans. That's the obvious one. 347 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 3: LaVar couldn't get the Texans out fast enough. He had 348 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: to go Houston was his pick. And then you know, 349 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: Brady got stuck with the Jets and you know, did 350 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: an admirable job trying to trying to sell them. Now, 351 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner, the guy that you that you backed as 352 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: an OH to three participant potentially making a run. He 353 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: has a theory, all right, He's got this theory about 354 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: bad teams and calls against bad teams. 355 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: Let's take a listen at West football. 356 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 8: All these times, and I was just fear. I don't know, 357 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 8: like is a wrong a state? But I think I 358 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 8: get called for more so to base talk, foot bus 359 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 8: just not winning ty West. He's winning programs and it'd 360 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 8: be some egregious things and they don't get caught like 361 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 8: you know, Lendon players play like I got called on 362 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 8: something today, Whereas like I know the loud everything, and 363 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 8: I'm just supposed letting just push off at the road. 364 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 8: I'm seeing kind of steps all that, like I'm not 365 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 8: going to catch the. 366 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: Ball regardless kind of. 367 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 8: I just feel like he generally, even in Mike Evans one, 368 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 8: I just feel like us not winning. 369 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 4: It's just it's just what. 370 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 8: Goes on, Like we don't win, and I feel like 371 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 8: we don't get the cause that we should get, and 372 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 8: we get caught the cause that we probably shouldn't. 373 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 4: Get called for. 374 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: See NFL's version of what came first, the chicken or 375 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: the egg. 376 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, he might be onto something. I think 377 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who've who've played Philadelphia this 378 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 4: year and they would say that like their dbs are 379 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 4: getting away with murder on the field. That was starting 380 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: to become kind of a thing on social media going 381 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 4: around that Philly. For whatever reason, they're not getting called 382 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 4: for investivo and for for DPI, and I don't know, 383 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 4: I mean it goes on forever. Then you know, the 384 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 4: star player seems to get the tick a tack calls 385 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: and you know, meanwhile other guys get beat to crap 386 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: and they don't get anything. So maybe he's onto something 387 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 4: with that. I think there's just a greater variety of officiating, 388 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 4: and that's probably the biggest difference. Is some crews tend 389 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 4: to call more, some crews tend to call less, and 390 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 4: that usually has more to do with it than anything else. 391 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: But maybe he's onto something here. 392 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, man, you're just not a good team. 393 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: And yeah, there's gonna be some calls, you know, but 394 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: as long as the check still cash, who cares? 395 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 396 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 3: Like, as long as you're getting checks like what you 397 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: just you know, take the l's. They're not going to 398 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: the playoffs. It's another losing season for New York. And 399 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 3: I'm almost positive, if memory serves me correct, this was 400 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: the Jets team this year. This Jets was the team 401 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 3: that LeVar backed. All right, this is the one. Yeah, 402 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: not any of the prosy ones, but this one. 403 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: Again. We go back to the AFC East Division and 404 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: he was out on the Patriots. I think he had 405 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: them finishing fourth. I think that's what his pick was. Yeah, 406 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 4: maybe third or fourth, but that isn't going to work 407 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 4: out well for him. I would say this about the Dolphins. 408 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel was in his bag last night him. I 409 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: mean some of those play designs, the two little limp dude, 410 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: the little nifty flip back on that of the reverse, 411 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: that was sick. I mean it was. It was one 412 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 4: of the more entertaining, like offensive games, at least from 413 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 4: the Miami standpoint that I'd seen from Mike McDaniel and 414 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 4: his staff. So kudos to them. Man. That was a 415 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 4: you know, Monday in football is a big stage. They 416 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 4: showed out and in the uniforms everything else lost one 417 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 4: of their best players, still found a way to win. 418 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: So uh, that was a good win for Miami and 419 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 4: maybe a spark something for this team moving forward. 420 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: And look, you know, I'm not trying to go back 421 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: on selling this zero to three team that was the 422 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: Dolphins before last night. But you know, they're at the 423 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 3: Panthers next, They've got the Chargers who are banged up. 424 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 3: They're at the Browns after that, they got the Falcons. 425 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 3: Those are some games they could win. Like they're they 426 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 3: are not complete. They're not going to the playoffs, not happening, 427 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 3: but at least they can have a respectable record potentially 428 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 3: at the end of this whole thing. So there's some 429 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: winnable games for Miami and the Chargers are out. You 430 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 3: know Joe Alt now he's going to be gone, So 431 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: there's a chance that they could make a little bit 432 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: of a run here going a heater and I might 433 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 3: actually get a pick right for a change of this show. 434 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 6: So who knows. 435 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: By the way, we are brought to you by Home Depot. 436 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 3: Everyone knows. First impressions start with the first coat. That's 437 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: why you can trust Kills Primers for a smooth and 438 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: professional finish. 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This weekend, we're also going to have another 445 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: edition of In case you missed it, We've got the leftovers. 446 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 3: All of it is yours here on this three hour 447 00:20:54,920 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 3: extravaganza up next though, Yeah, one team should really start 448 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: to worry about any chance at a playoff run based 449 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 3: on what we watched in the last twenty four hours. 450 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 3: We'll get into that for you right here on FSR. 451 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 452 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 453 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 454 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 455 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 456 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 9: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 457 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 9: with Jason McIntyre. 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He's 466 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino, Fox Sports, NFL and College football rules analysts. 467 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 3: You can get them on ex at Dean Blandino. Dean, 468 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you. The mood changes when 469 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 3: that song comes on, and we know that you're about 470 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: ready to come on the air with us something about it. 471 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: I got to be honest with you, I am. I 472 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: mean I didn't expect the fencing promo right before I 473 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 5: came in. 474 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 4: I mean that's yeah, I'm probably probably better suited for 475 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: giving me. 476 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 5: One hundred guesses on what was fencing was like one 477 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: on one and I'm into it. 478 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 4: Have you done fencing before? 479 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 5: My oldest son did when we were living in New 480 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 5: York did fencing for like one, like maybe like six 481 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: weeks and it was awesome, so awesome see a little 482 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 5: kids just stabbing each It was crazy. 483 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 2: I mean one way to do it. 484 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: By the way, speaking of violence, do you think Robert 485 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 3: sala is going to get fine for uh maybe allegedly 486 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: uh you know, giving a death threat to lead? 487 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, Robert the Robert Sala Leam Cohen Cohen, Like that 488 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: wasn't on my Bengo card. But I mean there was 489 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 5: a lot of like just people chose violence the the 490 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 5: you know, Ben Johnson, I mean there was a lot. 491 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 5: This weekend, it was it was is it. 492 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 4: Me or are these coaches hyped up on something? They 493 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: all looked like they're like teetering on I don't know 494 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 4: if some vitamin T or some bog I don't know. 495 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: We're not I thought the smelling soul salts were supposed 496 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 5: to pease banned, but you know, I don't know. 497 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 4: It feels like they're for individual consumption, right. I believe 498 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 4: that's what the NFL came out said, is the teams 499 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: just can't provide them, but the players can use them. 500 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: Very similar to Aaron Rodgers who cracked on open right 501 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: before he threw the touchdown pass, DK Metcalf exactly, Dean, 502 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: where are we at on the kickoff? I believe based 503 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: on the stats that I'm receiving from Mike Perreira, it's 504 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 4: made a dramatic impact on the play itself actually being 505 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 4: a play that matters now in football. 506 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, No, I think this is like we've talked 507 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 5: about they you know, the play is back where we're pushing, 508 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 5: you know, seventy five, seventy six, seventy seven percent of 509 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: kicks returned, we're getting long returns, we're getting uh, you know, 510 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 5: low injury rate. You know, I know, Mike, Mike, Mike 511 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 5: p sends the email out and he's always like he's like, 512 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: I'm fascinated by this and like, are you, Mike, is 513 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: it that fascinating? I mean, they just they changed it. 514 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 5: It's we're going to get a lot of kick returns. 515 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 5: But I think the league is really happy with where 516 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: where they're at. You know, they'll just continue to be 517 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 5: interesting to see what the you know, what the scoring 518 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 5: numbers look like at the end of this year with 519 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 5: the touchback being into thirty five and where the drive 520 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 5: start ends up. Uh, but I think this is this 521 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 5: is it's good for the play and because look as 522 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 5: recently as three years ago they were talking about taking 523 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 5: this play out altogether. It's been a dramatic, dramatic turnaround. 524 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. So 525 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 3: we brought this up earlier and I wanted to ask 526 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 3: you about it because I just don't get it. So 527 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 3: right before halftime of the Illinois USC game on Saturday, 528 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 3: it looked like and there was a fumble called on 529 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 3: the field. Illinois fumbled the football near the goal line. 530 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 3: They showed replay and it looked like there was a 531 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 3: clear view that he was down, yet they still kept 532 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: with the call. And it was one of those really 533 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: egregious moments to where you can't figure out, what are 534 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: you seeing that we're not seeing? Did you happen to 535 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: get a glance at the play? And why was that 536 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 3: call kept a fumble when it looked like it was 537 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: very obvious that he was down and on the ground. 538 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, kind I thought he was down as well. 539 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 5: It just looks like and what goes into those decisions, 540 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 5: And it's a very high standard to overturn, right, the 541 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: language it used to be saying disputable and then now 542 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 5: it's clear and obvious, and they really want it to 543 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 5: jump out so it's consistent. So it's not it's not 544 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: just us looking at the play and looking at it 545 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: for ten minutes and piecing eight different angles together and 546 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 5: then everybody at home going, well, how did you change it? 547 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,239 Speaker 5: They wanted to really jump out. Here's the shot. Here, 548 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 5: here's the knee on the ground, here's the ball. I 549 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 5: think that that's where that where I haven't really analyzed 550 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 5: that play too closely, but I think that's where that 551 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 5: decision ends up. It's like, Okay, there's some somebody and 552 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 5: there's multiple people involved in that decision. You've got a 553 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 5: replay official in the replay booth, you've got a command center, 554 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 5: big ten has a command center back in Chicago and 555 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 5: the referee, and so if somebody just plans one little 556 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 5: seat of doubt, then they're going to go, Okay, well 557 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 5: we don't have enough. It's not clear and obvious. We're 558 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 5: gonna let the play. You know, we're going to uphold it. 559 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: I think that's where that one probably landed. And there's 560 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: going to be plays like that where you see it 561 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 5: and you go, man, I said, that looks like you're down. 562 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 5: But for some reason that just somebody had some doubt 563 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 5: and they let it stand. 564 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 4: Can I ask this, though, like, how are these officials 565 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 4: being coached on plays like that? Because you know, in 566 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: that instance, it's a turnover and it can automatically be 567 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 4: reviewed then correct. So in that in that case, if 568 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: they called that he was down, they can't review it. 569 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 4: So they're almost like better off letting it play out 570 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 4: and then hoping that they have a camera angle that's 571 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 4: able to give them that sort of you know, conclusive evidence. 572 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 4: Is that Is that how it works? 573 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one of the that's one of the little 574 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: quirks with replay is that you can still review it 575 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: if they roll them down, but if the defense picks 576 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 5: it up and and and runs it back for eighty yards. 577 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: If the officials rule it down, they can't give the advance. 578 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 5: So your take, if you rule down, you better be 579 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 5: one hundred percent sure because if there is that big 580 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,719 Speaker 5: return and now replay shows that it was a fumble, 581 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 5: the best they can do is give them all to 582 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 5: the to the you know, whichever defender recovered it at 583 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 5: that spot. So there is always going to be a 584 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 5: lean toward let it play out. I think sometimes we 585 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 5: see that go too far where there's like an obvious 586 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 5: especially on pass fumble with the quarterback right, it's an 587 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 5: obvious pass, and they just like kind of let it 588 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 5: play out, and then everybody's kind of wondering, like what wait, 589 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: what that wasn't a pass, and then replay comes in 590 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 5: quickly and corrects it. So there is that element now 591 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 5: with replay where it's better to let it play out. 592 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 5: You still want the officials to roll on what they see. 593 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 5: If you're sure you're in good position, you see it, 594 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 5: call it, don't be indecisive, don't officiate to replay. But 595 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 5: I mean that is a reality that the officials have 596 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 5: to have to deal with. 597 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: Dean Blandino joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports, 598 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: NFL and College Football Rules analyst with us here on 599 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: two Pros and a Cup of Joves. So, have you 600 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: seen anything either in the NFL or in college through 601 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: the first you know, four or five weeks of the 602 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 3: season that you look at and go, they got to 603 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 3: get better at that in a hurry. 604 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: As far as. 605 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: Inconsistencies, anything that you've seen that is is a problem 606 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: right now from an officiating standpoint, Well, I. 607 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 5: Know, if we talk about college, I mean everybody, targeting 608 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 5: is usually the number one topic. I think, you know, 609 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 5: I always see there's a there's there tends to be 610 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 5: a lot of conversation about targeting. Early. There's usually a 611 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: spike in the numbers because right these these these kids practicing, 612 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 5: they're not hitting, they're not going at full speed the 613 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 5: way that they do during games, you know, in in 614 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 5: in fall practice and those types of things. So you 615 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 5: do see a little bit of an uptick. I think 616 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 5: everybody's kind of you get now into week five, you've 617 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 5: got you know, conference plays started, so I think everybody 618 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 5: kind of settles in. You're always going to have these 619 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 5: calls that you you can debate. The one thing, the 620 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 5: one thing I hate right now in college football, is 621 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: is the substitution. And when the offense suves and the 622 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 5: defense and you see the andy, they milk it and 623 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 5: you get you get these these big defensive linemen that 624 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: are doing the wal cap job. 625 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. It's so good though, it's 626 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 4: so good. 627 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 5: To get my car, you know, it's like that. 628 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 4: Just in that instance. Though, in that instance, do they 629 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 4: stop the play clock to allow for it that started 630 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 4: back up? Did they still the play clock run? 631 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 5: Oh? The play clock goes. So when you sub, the 632 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: way it works, the offense subs and you'll see the 633 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 5: you'll see the referee they put both arms out right, 634 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 5: and so that they call that. That opens up the window. 635 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: Now the defense has three seconds to bring in their subs, 636 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 5: and if you don't sub within that three seconds, then 637 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 5: you're on your own. But then once that substitution process, 638 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 5: once that first sub steps on the field for the defense, 639 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 5: now they get a chance to complete that substitution until 640 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 5: they lolligag onto the field and then okay, you know, Joe, 641 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna get in my stance. You go 642 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 5: off the field, and some teams are really good. And 643 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 5: now if that play clock goes to zero and then 644 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 5: and the defense was within the referee fields like they 645 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 5: were within that reasonable amount of time. It's going to 646 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 5: be it's going to be a delay game. 647 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 6: Seeze all right, that's fun. 648 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: By the way, Uh, we were talking about the eighty 649 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 3: Mitchell play where he fumbled the ball crossing the goal line. 650 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 4: Can that's that's that's not going to change though, is it? 651 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: No? It's like you would you everybody's like, everybody, Oh, 652 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: this whole is could you imagine when that happens and 653 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 5: we say, oh, by the way, Bill, Matt somebody you 654 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 5: know started to celebrate. Now we're going to give him 655 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 5: the ball back at the half yard line. I mean 656 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 5: it's a touchback. It's the end zone. Like, don't that 657 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 5: one get in the end zone? 658 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 3: That one right there, like that deserves to go the 659 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: other direction and and the other team gets the ball. 660 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 3: But in cases to where it's not intentional or a 661 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: guy you know, is reaching for the goal line, only get. 662 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 5: It, totally get it. So it's two separate rules. 663 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 3: So is that has that ever been brought up at all, 664 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: like in an off season? 665 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 666 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 3: And so what's what's the pushback on why a ball 667 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: going out of the end zone goes to the other team, 668 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 3: plus an extra twenty yards. 669 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 5: It's consistent with with the other rules in terms of 670 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 5: when when you when when you as a team put 671 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 5: the ball into your opponent's end zone, whether that's on 672 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 5: a punt, whether that's on a kickoff, right, a fumble 673 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 5: into the end zone, that's a touchback. So so it's 674 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 5: consistent from that standpoint. The Competition Committee's feeling was always 675 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 5: the end zones different, right, that's that's it's not like 676 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: at the fifty yard line. It's it's there's a lot 677 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 5: of reward getting the ball into the end zone, but 678 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 5: there should be some risk. And look, I get it, 679 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 5: I get it. When the when the when the running 680 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 5: back is diving for the end zone and he's trying 681 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 5: to hit that pileon and the ball just happens to 682 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 5: come loose six inches from the pilon and then hits it, 683 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 5: that feels really tough to make that a touchback. But 684 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: then you watch the play where the guy's celebrating and 685 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 5: you're like, that should be a touchback. So my thing is, 686 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 5: it's tough to say, Okay, there's two different rules for 687 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 5: those two situations. I like that it's simple. I like 688 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 5: that it's consistent, and I just think that, hey, hold 689 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: on to the football when you're near the goal line. 690 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 5: I think that's that's the biggest thing for me. 691 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: It'll never make sense to me. I'm not sure what 692 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: goes on inside a player's head whereas that first, like, 693 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 4: let's get the touchdown first, then celebrate. But I digress. 694 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: We had some sound from Sasgard earlier. He feels like, 695 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 4: if you play on a bad team, there's just more 696 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: calls against you versus some of the better teams. That's 697 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 4: essentially how we put it. I will say this in 698 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: his defense Dean Philly, And this has become like a 699 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: thing on social media. People are putting out eclipse of 700 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 4: their dbs getting away with murder. So, yeah, I understand 701 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 4: there's differences in cruise, et cetera. But I mean, is 702 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 4: there anything to this as far as what Sauce is saying. 703 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't look, I don't think. And they've done 704 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 5: studies and you know, ESPN did a deal where they 705 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 5: went back twenty years and looked at fouls against certain 706 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: teams and all the teams, and there's just no rhyme 707 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: or reason. It's different cruise. It's different to cruise change 708 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 5: year to year. I think I think the bad teams 709 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 5: tend to make more mistakes. Good teams tend to make 710 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 5: less mistakes. And I was I we had the Eagles 711 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 5: Bucks team and Queenyon Mitchell man he is handsy right 712 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 5: like like he is, and and and a lot right hopefully. 713 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: You wanted. 714 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 5: I didn't want to. No, I'm not going to go there. 715 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 10: But but the thing is, and some and look, there 716 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 10: were teams. Seattle was great at that when the Legion 717 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 10: of Boom, they were they would play aggressive, they would hold, 718 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 10: they would grab because they're like, you're not going to 719 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 10: call you might call it, you might call it once, 720 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 10: you might call it twice, you're not gonna call it 721 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 10: six times in a row. 722 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: And we're gonna win. We're gonna win those other downs 723 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 5: and so and you do see some of these these players. 724 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 5: That's one guy, you know, he got called a couple 725 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 5: of times. He could have gotten called a lot more. 726 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 5: I don't think it's not a team thing. It's just 727 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: it's just the officials. They're trying to do the best 728 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 5: they can. It's different crews, like I said, they change, 729 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 5: and I just think sometimes over time though, you will 730 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 5: see that even out when you look at the numbers, 731 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 5: not just within one season. It's it's over over a 732 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 5: longer a longer period. 733 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 3: Well, do officials go into games, you know, saying, hey, 734 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 3: this team's got a reputation of this, be on the 735 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 3: lookout or you know it, like, is there I don't 736 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 3: know if it's a game plan, but is there sure 737 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 3: any sort of scouting from an officiating standpoint, Hey, watch 738 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 3: out for this when this team is playing and you 739 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: have this game? 740 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 5: They do they do so, they'll they'll scout, they'll look 741 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 5: at it, they'll look at tape on the two teams 742 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 5: and what they'll they'll try not to look at, say, hey, 743 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 5: if one particular player, they won't go too far down 744 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 5: that because then you you almost get get in your head, Oh, 745 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 5: I got to be looking at the left tackle has 746 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 5: led the league in holds, And then I'm almost like 747 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 5: prejudicing myself to be like, oh, focusing so much on 748 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 5: the left tackle, I missed something else. But there are tendencies, Right, 749 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 5: you scout your opponent, just like the officials are going 750 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 5: to scout the two teams. So there are tendencies. There are, Hey, 751 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 5: they play aggressive in the secondary. They do this and sure, 752 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 5: y artists, they you know, they how are we going 753 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 5: to officiate to push those types of things? So they 754 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 5: are scouting, they try to stay away from, you know, 755 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 5: targeting one specific player and unless it's like, hey this 756 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 5: guy every play after the play, he's you know, if 757 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 5: if DK metcalf Is is playing Jalen Ramsey, we got 758 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 5: to be we got to be on top of that 759 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: at the you know, post play and then and find 760 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 5: those two guys because that could get out of hand. 761 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 5: But but yeah, they do scout, but they'll try not 762 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 5: to get so focused on one player so they don't 763 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 5: lose other things that are happening. 764 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 2: Dean Blandino with us here on Fox Sports Radio. 765 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,439 Speaker 4: Dean, what else is going on in your life? 766 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 5: Man? 767 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 4: I mean I feel like we just bring you on 768 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 4: you talk about football. I'm more curious what else is 769 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 4: going on? 770 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just you know, I'm living my best life 771 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 5: right now, you know, just traveling around with the Fox 772 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 5: A crew and and and hey hang out my man Brady, 773 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 5: and and and just getting style tips from him. Did 774 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 5: you see him this weekend? Did you did you see 775 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 5: Tom with the white shirt, white tie, combo. I mean incredible, incredible. 776 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: It was something. It was something, Hey, do you ever 777 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 4: see Ronaldi out there? 778 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, Tom is the best Tom is he? He 779 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 5: is like the nicest, kindest, always like just so supportive, 780 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 5: you know, and we you know, I love Tom and 781 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 5: we we kind of made fun of him at the 782 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 5: uh I don't know if you were in the room 783 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 5: at the time. It was the NFL part of the seminar, 784 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 5: and we we we said we made fun of Tom 785 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 5: and said, you know nothing nothing to be more fired 786 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 5: up for a day of college football watching some you know, 787 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: a Tom Ornaldy piece on some kid that lost his 788 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 5: family in a hot air balloon accident and is dedicating 789 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 5: his seasons family just with the music Let's Nebraska, Michigan. 790 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 4: I was actually gonna take a different angle and ask 791 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 4: you about the Italian side, like do you guys get screwed? 792 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: Good meals in together and all that, But clearly you 793 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 4: took that at a different. 794 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 5: Definitely, definitely I passed on the jonas said the pieson. 795 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean listening. 796 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: Let's be honest though, if you're getting in a hot 797 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 3: air balloon, I mean, you know, is what it is like? 798 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 5: Thing? Yeah, you want to make dumb choices, then don't 799 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 5: don't be sad when I'm with you. 800 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 4: I don't get it. By the way, I mean forget, 801 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 4: forget like the fact that you really don't have much 802 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 4: control over how those things operate. And by the way, 803 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 4: you're in a basket. You're in a basket. 804 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 5: It's five basket like. 805 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 4: We can't create a carbon fiber like thing to stand in. 806 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 4: We've got a basket like someone wove that. 807 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 3: It's a basket, a balloon and a giant flame over 808 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 3: your head. Now you should be fine, Hey, look at that, 809 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,960 Speaker 3: Look at this. It should be fine. And then next 810 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 3: thing you know, you're caught up and uh, you know, 811 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 3: in an electrical wire and everything goes, Hey, what. 812 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 5: What what are we doing? It's just I don't know. 813 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: I think everyone knows the guy who's literally gotten a 814 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 4: hot air balloon. Next, like, I know what, I've got 815 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 4: a buddy. 816 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: Do you really? 817 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't have one. No, you don't get out much. 818 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 4: I bet Dean's probably know someone. 819 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, we did. I've actually being in a hot air balloon. 820 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 2: Hey, deep, where are you at this weekend? Where are 821 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 2: you guys traveling? 822 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,879 Speaker 5: We've got we've got a home game for me, which 823 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,239 Speaker 5: is nice Commanders and Chargers. No, that'll be you know, 824 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 5: Commanders obviously, but hopefully Jade's back. Chargers coming off their 825 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 5: first loss, so we'll see it'll be good. Hopefully it'll 826 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: be a good game. 827 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: There you go, awesome man, Dean Blandino. All right, so listen, 828 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:51,760 Speaker 3: we we ran, uh we weren't through it all there rules. 829 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. By the way, deed LeVar says his you know 830 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 4: said us hello's and all. 831 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 2: His pleasures today well, you know. 832 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 4: Penn State. Penn State played Saturday night and it's Tuesday. 833 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: So he's just now flying back or maybe he's taking 834 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 4: a wagon. We're not really sure how he's getting front 835 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 4: to l a from from Happy. 836 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 5: Valley, crying his way all the way back 837 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 3: The three the three day post game show apparently, So 838 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 3: thanks team, we appreciate it.