1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's the Almost said Is podcast and we 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: are back with another recap of the new hd TV 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: show Bachelor Mansion Takeover. This time, the contestants made over 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: the Rose Room. I am here with Heather this week 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 2: to recap this show. You guys know is our producer 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: and let's get to it. Yeather. So in episode two, 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: first we had the elimination that started last week. The 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: guys had to eliminate somebody from their team. Yep, Ben 11 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: did not predict it was going to be Chris. Who 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: do you remember what Ben predicted it was gonna because 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 2: I predicted it would be Chris. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: I think that he said Sam. 15 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 2: Oh, Sam, Okay, it could have been Sam. 16 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 3: Because he thought Sam was like being a little quiet. 17 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: I think Sam is still being a little quiet, Yeah. 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 4: Because I think Sam's just like, I'm here to do 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 4: renovations and I was on paradise for five seconds. 20 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you just happy to be there exactly 21 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 2: like whatever, let me be here longest, like no drama, 22 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: like no big opinions, because in this episode we see 23 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: that it's kind of having more opinions means having more 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 2: hostility exactly. 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: And I also think that there's two. 26 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 4: Very big personalities that keep having to be working together 27 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 4: on this show. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 2: Okay, so Jill has the biggest personality and she's super 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: opinionated and she can't hide anything like she says. And 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 2: then Alisha was her sort of enemy on Paradise, although 31 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: it was very brief, and the two of them just 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: can't seem to be getting along. But it also seems 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: like next week Alisha is paired with Courtney and she's 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: not gonna like her then. So who's the problem. I 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: don't know, but I will say that, like when you're 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 2: dealing with design stuff, it's really like all about just 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: the way that you see. It's so subjective and you 38 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: and if you're like me, you get like really stuck 39 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: on an idea. Like I mentioned this before. But Jared 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 2: and I will get into our bigger fights. We don't. 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: We'll bicker a lot when it comes to decorating and 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 2: hanging things on the wall because I need it to 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: be just my way or it will irk me, like 44 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 2: it will send I can't do it, like I'm gonna 45 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: have to live with this and I need it to 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: be my way. 47 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: Are you talking about in terms of like straight and 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: level or are you talking about overall esthetics? You have 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 3: to have a way. 50 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: Straight and level, which he won't like He's not one 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 2: to like level or measure. He'll just kind of like 52 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 2: eyeball it. And I very much needed to be smack 53 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 2: center or like whatever way that I'm looking at. 54 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: It, and. 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: Just he like do something and he'll put something somewhere 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 2: and he'll be like that looks good, and I'll be like, 57 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 2: the design of that is it's it's probably fine to 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: your average person, but me needing everything to be just 59 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: so and being like very type A when it comes 60 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 2: to a guess design, which is super silly for me 61 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: to say, because like here I am and like a 62 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: stained sweatshirt and like having toys all over the room. 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: There's something about like when you're decorating with purpose and 64 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: that's outside decorating with motherhood attached. I just need it 65 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 2: to be the way I envisioned it. 66 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: I think also right our home is like a sanctuary space, 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: and so if you see when you're trying to relax 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 4: and you see imperfections, it becomes unrelaxing in the environment. 69 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: So I get it. 70 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: Maybe have you ever tried hiring like a handyman and 71 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: like just yeah, okay, and seeing. 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: His thing will be like, I'm the man, I should 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: do these things, so you shouldn't have to hire someone. 74 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: And I'm like, but then we're just gonna argue. It's 75 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: really like our only tension point. I truly dread decorating 76 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: a home that's more of like our forever home in 77 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: the future, where it's a lot more like thought and effort. 78 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 2: But anyway, if that's our biggest issue, that's probably a blessing. 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 80 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: I guess this Going back to Alisha, she just I 81 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: understand and Jill, if somebody's not seen your vision, I 82 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: understand the pain and the frustration it'll cause with the 83 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 2: other person. 84 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 4: Well, can I tell you this whole show reminds me 85 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: of like being in group projects at school. Yeah, you know, 86 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 4: when you just get randomly assigned and you're like, this 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: is your group, and it's like everybody's just got a 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 4: different take. It's like for me, whenever I was in 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: those situations, I was always like, Okay, I guess I'm 90 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: going to be the leader. I guess I'm gonna do 91 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 4: this now because I couldn't handle sitting back and like 92 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 4: just like expecting everybody in the group to like do 93 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: their part. Dean in this episode, I felt like had 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: less of stronger opinions this time than he did last 95 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 4: week with the blue ceiling. 96 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: Okay, I can relate to this as well, Like sometimes 97 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: you're given a project where you truly don't care if 98 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: somebody takes the lead on it, but if it's something 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: that you're invested in, passionate about, then you just can't 100 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 2: let yourself not be the leader, right, I think this 101 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: is natural. 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: I get that. So so going back, so Chris was eliminated. 103 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Chris is eliminated. So we're just going on a tangent here. 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Chris is eliminated, and Jill particularly is disappointed in this. 105 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: A lot of the girls were like, he like had 106 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: real tangible skills, Like what were you guys thinking about 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: eliminating him? There's some speculation to like maybe they were 108 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: trying to get somebody who really had skills out of 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: the competition. My theory is that the guys just kind 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: of broke out and they're just like, who doesn't fit 111 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: with us? And it's the Chris because he's older. 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: One hundred percent. 113 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 4: That's why the Goldens are just literally being targeted because 114 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: they're old. And I'm sorry that is a little bit 115 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: ageous feeling. I'm not vibing with it. Second of all, 116 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 4: I just have to say I hate the elimination element 117 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: of the show. 118 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, guys, I'm not interested in it. 119 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: I feel like the cast was small enough that I 120 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 4: don't need to see people getting eliminated. And I think 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 4: that you can determine a winner in a competition contest 122 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: with a point system and you don't absolutely pull off 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 4: every single. 124 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely so at the end of the show. 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: It adds a bummer layer to every episode that I'm 126 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 4: just like, it brings the energy down, like I'd rather 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: see I don't know more Wayfair furniture than like watching product. 128 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 2: Place and shots are hilarious. They're so obvious. 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: They're very excited about that Wayfair truck whenever its but 130 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: I would be. 131 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: Very excited about it wear for a truck coming up 132 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: to my house too. I just I do love my 133 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 2: hair Fair. So I think that your right point system 134 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: where they could be like, oh, you know, your first, 135 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: second or third place that week, and then like you're 136 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 2: giving a point and at the end of it, whoever 137 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 2: team has the most points is the team that wins. 138 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: I guess that they probably thought it's the bachelor. There 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: has to be eliminations, and like that's just the stake 140 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: that we go with. But yeah, it's totally unnecessary. 141 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: It's so off to me, and I really don't like it. 142 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: And I feel like these people are not getting enough 143 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 4: time on this show to show what they can do 144 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 4: and also enough time to like make bad design choices 145 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: or do something wrong, you know what I mean, Like 146 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 4: everything is just happening so fast and we're just like 147 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: losing people so quickly that I'm just like, I. 148 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: Don't, I don't. It's not vibing with me. The elimination element. 149 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 2: It's the double edged sword though, where it's like, are 150 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: we gonna have the least qualified person around at the 151 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: end just because they got along with people, or. 152 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: Are we just having the carpenters from the show making everything. 153 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: I know exactly? Like is this just a contest of 154 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: somebody that has a good design eye, because if this 155 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 2: is a design show, then that's a design show, not 156 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: a constructing show. And it just doesn't seem like they 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: did the math right on how to figure out who's 158 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 2: the winner here. 159 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 4: It definitely feels like there's elements missing of like what's 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: our overall goal. I think it also goes back to 161 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 4: like what Ben and you were discussing in last week's 162 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: episode of like why are. 163 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: We doing this? 164 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 4: Is this getting turned into like an airbnb? Like these 165 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 4: rooms are not like super functional either, Like, hello, they 166 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 4: just put all that furniture in the Rose room, which 167 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 4: we know is going to get taken. 168 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 3: Out because it can't be used for filming. 169 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: We do have furniture in the Roads room. They totally 170 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 2: flip it during the night. Oh yeah, So like there's 171 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: a certain point of the night where you don't go 172 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: into the Rose room because they take the furniture out 173 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: and then they put the step stool, you know, the 174 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 2: step thing he's in the risers. 175 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: Okay, So I had no idea. 176 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 4: I thought you guys were always when you were congregating, 177 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 4: were hanging out in like another room, like a living room. 178 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: There is a living room, okay, especially like on Night one, 179 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 2: the Bachelor will take people into the Rose room that 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: has it looks just like a family room with couches 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 2: in the fireplace and all of that. So yeah, it's 182 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: a fully functional room. That we hang out in very often, 183 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 2: almost as much as the quote family room. 184 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 4: When we were seeing highlights of the Rose Room before 185 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 4: they started doing their work on it, they showed the 186 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 4: shots of years past. Do you remember what color the 187 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 4: Rose Room was on your season? 188 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: I don't, but should I look it up now? I 189 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: saw that you wrote that and I was like, how 190 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: am I look at this up? 191 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 4: I was looking at it and I actually kind of 192 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 4: liked the shots where it was green. 193 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: I love green, like emerald deep green is one of 194 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: my favorites. 195 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 4: I thought it really popped on camera and I was like, wow, 196 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 4: this actually looks kind of There were. 197 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 3: I think Jones season. 198 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't really a fan of the shots that they 199 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 4: were showing of it, but I remember, I think it 200 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: was Brad Womack's season it was green, and I was like, WHOA, 201 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: this kind of looks cool. 202 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: I think about this often, And when I say often, 203 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: I mean like a few times a year about how 204 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: many coats of paint have been on this wall and 205 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: how many times a year it gets painted? Like how 206 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 2: is this not chipping off? Do they stand it out? 207 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: Like? 208 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: What do they do that? You know what they should do? 209 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: Like a pop up music video where at the bottom 210 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 2: it's like fun facts about the room. Yes, so look, 211 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: mine was like a deep it looks purple on FaceTime, 212 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: but it's not purple. It's a deep blue. It's very 213 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: reminiscent in my bedroom color. It's crazy. Oh it must 214 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: have been subconscious. 215 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: I love that well. 216 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: I think when I see pictures and videos of the mansion, 217 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: For anybody listening that's ever been to Lisa vander Pump's 218 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 4: Sir in West Hollywood, that is what I feel like. 219 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 4: The inside of Sir is what I feel like the 220 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 4: mansion looks like. For those that haven't been to surr 221 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,119 Speaker 4: in a minute, it's a little dusty, it's a little crusty. 222 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: It's a little bit like Peer one imports from like 223 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 4: two thousand. It's like there's a little bit of that 224 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 4: going on. And that's what I feel like is the 225 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: mansion as well. That's actually so true. 226 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: And it was during this episode that I started looking 227 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: at it more in the way that you and Ben do, 228 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh, wait, this does look kind of 229 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: like all and like some of the things don't look 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 2: as expensive as they are. 231 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 4: Oh, we're gonna get into it when we start talking 232 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: about the bar makeover. 233 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: That's the part that I was looking at, like the 234 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: actual formation of the bar, like the wood like. I 235 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: was like, the woodwork doesn't look very nice. It looks 236 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: like cheap, but I know it's super heavy. 237 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: I know, well, we'll get into this. 238 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: So after Chris is eliminated, the next day, Jesse comes 239 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 4: out to tell them what the challenge is going to 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 4: be about renovating the rose room. 241 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: And that's when we see the. 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 4: Different zones that everybody's going to be doing, which I'd 243 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: like to know your opinion on these zones. But one 244 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: is called the living space, one is called the candle room, 245 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 4: and one is called the bar and wine cellar. I'm 246 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 4: going to say that the word cellar is a little generous. 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: It is a wine rack. 248 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: It's interesting that they didn't kind of show a big 249 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 2: zoom out of the room to be like this is 250 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: where this is. Like, let's give you guys some perspective here, 251 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: this is where you stand when you do this. This 252 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 2: is what because all of it is in the same room. 253 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 4: That's why I think they didn't give you a wine shot, 254 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: because you'd be like, I could be touching my person. 255 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 3: I'm competing against I know. 256 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 2: I was like, are they all in there together? They 257 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: have certain times the day, and also, how are you 258 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 2: doing three separate parts of the same room without working 259 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: together as a whole to make sure it was cohesive. 260 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: I think we saw on the end how uncohesive it looked. 261 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 4: I don't know, I just I was like, okay, okay, 262 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 4: so we should say who was on each o. 263 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: Yes, So Ali, Yisha, Jill and Dean are in the 264 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: living space, which is like the you know, the main area, 265 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: and then the other two have little side portions of 266 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: the room as Joan and Courtney and Sam are in 267 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 2: the candle room, which is really just like a candle again, 268 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 2: candle space. It's a wall in the room that there's 269 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: like a little bit it's like a nook. Okay, it's 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: a nook. It definitely looks like a nook. Could have 271 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 2: said the candlenook. And then it's again the Tam Tammy. 272 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 2: Noah and Brandon are in the bar and wine cellar, 273 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 2: but it's more of like the the bar nook and 274 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: it's like just the bar in the same room, so. 275 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 4: You can't call it a cellar when it's literally a 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: wine rock behind glass, like there's nothing to step into. 277 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. So they also have to incorporate the 278 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: essence of a rose somewhere in their design. They have 279 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 2: forty five minutes of design to decide on a design plan, 280 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: and then whoever wins this challenge again like last week, 281 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: will be the team is free from elimination. If you 282 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 2: ever wins, will then decide who is up for elimination. 283 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 2: That is what we know so far. Does change a 284 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: little bit as it goes on. 285 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: Well, I don't like this element either, by the way. 286 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: So the way that they had the challenge that then 287 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 2: determines who in the actual team is going to do 288 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: the eliminating. 289 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,239 Speaker 4: I don't like teammates having to say who's up for elimination. 290 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 4: The only time I like that element is if it's 291 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: something super serious like Survivor or on the opposite end 292 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: of the spectrum, Love Island. I absolutely love when they 293 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: introduce that on Love Island because it's it's so emotional 294 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 4: for them because they will kick off somebody usually that's 295 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 4: dating somebody else that they're keeping, and it's very emotional. 296 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 3: But for this, I'm like. 297 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: There's like five of you, Like there's like there's nine 298 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: cast members that we're dealing with it's not a big 299 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 4: group of people. 300 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: Yes, totally. So let's talk about this bar and wine cellar. 301 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: They want to go dark and moody, and they want 302 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 2: to incorporate arches, and I love arches. But they're like 303 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: looking at the arches in the room and I'm like, guys, 304 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: I think we're already arch happy in the room. 305 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: How about how they said arches. So they said arches. 306 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 3: The other team said arches. I literally thought when I 307 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: was watching it, I go okay. 308 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: So producers walked up to them and said, guys, you 309 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: have to say arches. 310 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: You have to do something. 311 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: You also mentioned that they said the Roman clay a lot. 312 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 4: Why, like it was said so many times. I was like, 313 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: I should have been keeping count. 314 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: Okay. So in the candle room, they are also wanting 315 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: to incorporate arches. They're doing a tile on the wall, 316 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: and they wanted to be more functional while still intimate. 317 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: Now I'm not sure what that means, except for they 318 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 2: wanted to put stuff on the shelves, like as if 319 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: it could also be like a bookshelf or something. But 320 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: you know, also we're making fun of everything. But that's 321 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: just what we do here on our recaps. Also, it's 322 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: a critique. Guys. 323 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 4: I need everybody to also tell us what they think 324 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: about this show, because I don't know what other podcasts 325 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 4: are recapping the show besides us, and so I'm interested 326 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 4: to hear other opinions. But the thing is, I think 327 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: Joan was saying about the candle room because she was 328 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: quick to say that the other two people on her 329 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: team hadn't even been in that room before or like 330 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 4: utilize it. 331 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: But I was weirded out by that because I understand 332 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: that Sam did not he did not record his season 333 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: at the Mansion, but Courney did. 334 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: I think she meant more like, you're not a lead 335 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: navigating and using the room. 336 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: That's how I interpreted. 337 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: Okay, and Courtney was on like thirteen years ago, so 338 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 2: maybe it wasn't even a candle room at that point. 339 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: Maybe it was a closet back then. I don't know. 340 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: But like, I think what she was trying to say 341 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 4: was like when she said functionality, was like make it 342 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 4: more than just two people can sit in here at 343 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: a time. 344 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 345 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 4: But it's like anyways, we'll get into we'll get into 346 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 4: the essence of the room. 347 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 2: So now we go with Jill and Alisha their conflicting design. 348 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: You know, their fight is that Alisha wants to go 349 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: for like is it a tile, but she wants to 350 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: do a mirror wall up. She wants to do like 351 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 2: a tile. 352 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 4: Alicia wanted to do something with tile, but it was 353 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 4: like kind of like shingle looking. I think was like 354 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 4: the format she wanted to do. 355 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: That seems like it's gonna take a long time to 356 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: do it on the entire wall. 357 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 3: Well, they have a lot of help, I think behind 358 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: the scenes. 359 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 4: Okay, I want to know why they didn't discuss anything 360 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 4: with that fireplace, Like this is the second time they've 361 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 4: had a big fireplace in the room too, and that 362 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 4: was like not talked about. 363 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: The fireplace is probably the nicest element in that room. 364 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. So I'm team Jill in this just because 365 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm friends with Jill and she's so funny. But I 366 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 2: don't know that I'm team Jill in this mural. Dean 367 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: ends up being team Jill, and I appreciate that because 368 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 2: I know that they got close throughout this and they 369 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 2: really got along together. Knowing the two of them, I 370 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: understand why they go along the mural not to jump ahead. 371 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: It looks good, it looks fine, it looks decent, but 372 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: it doesn't. 373 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: Look it doesn't go with the architecture of the house exactly. 374 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 2: It's it would be a really it just doesn't go 375 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: to the architecture of the house at all. It's like 376 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: this zen Well, I don't even know how to describe it. 377 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: It's very pretty, but it just doesn't It's not at 378 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: all Mediterranean. 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: No, it's very modern. It's very anthropology apology. 380 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 381 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: I think it would be great in a bedroom as 382 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 4: an accent wall, or even a dining room. I don't 383 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 4: know about it being in such a big space as 384 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 4: a living room. But what I will say to Jill's 385 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 4: credit is it is a design show and you are 386 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: supposed to make bold moves. And that's probably why Dean 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 4: sided with her, because we just saw how much he 388 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 4: loved a blue ceiling in the last episode. So like, 389 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 4: these are risk taking people, and I think that that 390 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 4: is what this show needs, right Like, had it just 391 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 4: been beige tiles. 392 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been a remodel. It would have been 393 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: very similar to what we already see it look like exactly. 394 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: That's kind of why I'm glad I did it just 395 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: for the interest. 396 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 4: Effect exactly, so I'll agree with that. Do I think 397 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: it was the best choice? 398 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 2: No? 399 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 3: Were they only given forty five minutes to make these choices? 400 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: Yes, which it also stresses me out, Like do. 401 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 3: You remember did you ever used to watch Project Runway? 402 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would stress me out too, to the point 403 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 2: where I didn't want to watch it. 404 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 4: But they had an entire first portion of the day 405 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: that was the first part of the challenge, right, was sketching, 406 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 4: picking out their materials, doing measurements, not forty five minutes, 407 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like that's an outfit. 408 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 3: We're talking about a room. 409 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 4: Like, I don't know, I just feel like there's too 410 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 4: much of the wrong things shoved into these episodes, which 411 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: is aka the voting off of each other where I'm like, 412 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 4: I want to see more design. I want to see 413 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 4: walls getting holes punched in them, which we have not 414 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 4: seen yet in two episodes. 415 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: No, we don't really see any construction, no any demo 416 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: or anything like that because it's really more of an design. 417 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: It's definitely an aesthetic show and not a hard design 418 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: show that we do see on eah GTV. 419 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 4: And I think that the I mean the big reason 420 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: for that is that you have to pull permits and 421 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: you have to do a lot of crazy stuff when 422 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 4: you're doing those kinds of renovations, and they also take 423 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 4: a lot longer, and it sounds like they were in 424 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 4: a very tight time crunch to do this show, so 425 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 4: you know, paint and furniture is going to really give 426 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 4: you the most bang. 427 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: For your buck. 428 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 4: But then we get it to the incorporating the rose 429 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 4: into the design, and that's when Dean says he wants 430 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: to redesign the iconic podium that we see in every 431 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 4: episode that is always holding the roses, and Jill and 432 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: Alicia lead with, you know, doing some sort of rose 433 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 4: etching on the top of the podium is kind of 434 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 4: what they all decide on. It's subtle, it's not in 435 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: your face. And then the barroom says that they're going 436 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 4: to put a three D printed rose into their design, 437 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 4: and then the candle room ends up doing some one 438 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 4: of a kind artwork by me. 439 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, so they all work, Uh, I do the bar 440 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: one was probably like maybe the the one that I 441 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: didn't like the most. There was like, really you liked 442 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 2: that one? 443 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: No, I'm just surprised that from you saying that for 444 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 4: some reason, I thought you, as a Disney lover, were 445 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 4: going to be like I liked it. 446 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 3: It reminded me of beauty. 447 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: In the so Enchanted Rose. I totally agree, and I 448 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: love the idea of it. And then when I saw 449 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 2: it up there. 450 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 3: I was like, it's not right because because it was tilted, 451 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 3: and you don't like it. You don't like it because 452 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: it was tilted. 453 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: So I think I would have like wanted to see 454 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: like some mosaic up there, like I would have liked 455 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 2: my enchanted Land. I would have liked to have something 456 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 2: like tile mosaic, like a stained glass type. 457 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, Daine glass glass behind that 458 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 4: with the bar and the wine. 459 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 3: Why didn't they hire us Ashley to be on this show? 460 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 4: I mean, but they really missed the mark on some 461 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 4: of that that. 462 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: This could have been corny too. But with the podium, 463 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: it could have been like the stem and then it 464 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 2: comes up to a rose and then like in the 465 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: center of it, it's flat, but like on the exterior 466 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 2: it looks like a rose opening up. That could be 467 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: kind of pretty. It was very it was very tasteful, 468 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 2: and it was fine, and it was Jill giving Aliyusha 469 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: her little bone. She was just like, just do what 470 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: you want with this, it's fine. 471 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 4: And then and I think that what did you think 472 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 4: about the bar choice in doing everything in one color? 473 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: No, I didn't want to get you didn't like that. 474 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 2: So they said they wanted to go moody, But I 475 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 2: didn't feel like it was moody at all. 476 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: I think they just said moody because the colors were 477 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: like mauve and like black countertops. I think that that 478 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: was just like the only way they could describe that. 479 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 4: But I agree with you that it was not dark 480 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 4: and moody. It was giving neutrals. 481 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but they did do a good job with 482 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: the casing of the wine bottles, and that seems to 483 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 2: be what was one of the favorite things from the 484 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: judge's this week. Before we get there, let's talk about 485 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: the contestants forming alliances, which is another little like popin 486 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: scene that was like very interesting because the barroom crew 487 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 2: comes in a check on the progress of the living 488 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: room crew, and these two teams agree that if either 489 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: of them have the choice to eliminate a group after this, 490 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 2: that they would eliminate someone from the candle room. That 491 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: they would protect each other. And then in the interview 492 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: Jill in the interview room, Jill crosses her fingers and 493 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: wingsys that she's not really joining this alliance. And this 494 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: whole scene was kind of like a moment to me 495 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: where I was like, did I miss something? Like why? 496 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: Why are we like being so loyal to each other 497 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: right now? 498 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 4: The minute I saw it, I was like, you could 499 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 4: probably touch Joan in her group, like you're standing so 500 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 4: close to them, like there's no way that they're not 501 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 4: hearing this. 502 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 2: It was so weird. 503 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Again, it felt a little like out of place. 504 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 4: This is the stuff that I'm talking about when I 505 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 4: say like I'm not really about it, is like it's this, 506 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 4: it's the eliminations where I'm like, this feels a little 507 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 4: forced to me. It brings down a vibe of the 508 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 4: show that I'm not really liking, and that's just me. 509 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 4: But yeah, it didn't it and clearly, as we see, 510 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 4: it doesn't end. 511 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: Up being something that sticks. 512 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 2: I think obviously they just wanted drama and steaks and 513 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 2: they're trying to come up with something here and it 514 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 2: just we kind of just wanted the happy show. 515 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 4: I tell you, where the drama and steaks usually come 516 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 4: from on renovation shows. 517 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 2: Usually like the plumbing's not working and they're going to 518 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: cost like an extra twenty thousand dollars to do something 519 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: about it. 520 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 3: Exactly. 521 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 4: It's situational drama. So either the fabric that you wanted 522 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 4: didn't end up on the truck and didn't arrive in time, 523 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 4: or you're gonna run out of time before your three 524 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: d rows can be printed. You need to come up 525 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 4: with another option. 526 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: We found black mold. 527 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: But there's a lot of things that you can do 528 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 4: besides making people turn on each other and form alliances. 529 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 4: It's just like there's to me, this is giving t 530 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: MoU version of the Brady Bunch Renovation Show, and I'm 531 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: just like not loving it just yet. 532 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: I think everybody on the show is super talented. 533 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: It's the thing and super great because like, I love 534 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: their personalities and that's the favorite part of the show 535 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 2: is just getting to see all these people again on 536 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: the TV exactly. 537 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 4: And that's where I think I'm feeling a little upset, 538 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: is like I want to see more of their talents 539 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 4: and I want to see less of this stuff that 540 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 4: I can tell is not natural to any of these people, 541 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 4: and they're just having to do it. 542 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk about the screwdriver challenge. This one's really easy. 543 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 2: When it comes to a challenge, they well, I mean, 544 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 2: you know, not saying that I'm going to excel at it, 545 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: but it's very simple. They need to estimate seventeen points 546 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: something inches seventeen point five inches and cut a block 547 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 2: of wood that they assume is seventeen point five inches, 548 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: and then they put it in a box and they 549 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 2: see whoever got closest to that mark. You can't go over. 550 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 2: It's like the price is right. Brandon ends up winning. 551 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 2: Brendan I always had this problem with him. Brendan ends 552 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: up winning. And this means that, well, actually we don't. 553 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: Know what it don't. No, they don't. 554 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 4: They wait till the last minute to tell us what 555 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: this whole thing is. 556 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so we go back to the running renting room. 557 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: Everything's kind of like coming together, and then we get 558 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: to see who the judges are. And isn't it crazy 559 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 2: that the wayfair furniture on like comes three hours before 560 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: the reveal, Like that's just like, are you kidding me? 561 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 2: I have to place these things in a room. 562 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 3: But at least they've already pre picked it. Out, so 563 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: they should know. 564 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 4: Like it's not like on other design shows where I've 565 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 4: seen where they have to like go back to like 566 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 4: a parking lot and like pick out and like it's 567 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 4: like an hour before that I think is more stressful. 568 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 4: At least they knew what they were getting the day before. 569 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: You're you're so right, You're so right. I kind of 570 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: forgot about that element. So we are going to get 571 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: our guest judge for the week. I like this pick 572 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,959 Speaker 2: it is Christina Hack said Hack okay. 573 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was Hack and they all called her Hawk. 574 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 4: Oh, they all called her Christina Hawk on the show, 575 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 4: and I was like, isn't it Christina Hack Okay? 576 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 2: I always just think of her as Christina ever MADEGTV, 577 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: the one that's been like married, you know, a divorce 578 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: and then married and divorce and then engaged and then 579 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: not married. You know. Yes, yes, she's the one with 580 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 2: the dramatic romantic life on HGTV. And they get obviously 581 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: it's like that's a pretty big deal. That's exciting, and 582 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, this is an easy get for them. 583 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: So the judges end up seeing the living space and 584 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: they're wowed. Bite like Tasha thinks it's absolutely fantastic. Let's 585 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: go through the through quote room by room. The living space. 586 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: They like that it's cozy and warm. They like the 587 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: muted colors with the colorful furniture. They don't like the 588 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 2: Roman clay with the mural I don't notice where the 589 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: Roman clay even is. Where is it. 590 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: It's all the back, so like the arches are in 591 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: Roman clay, the backing, the everything right, the whole back 592 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 4: of the bar. 593 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 3: Their whole wall is Roman clay. 594 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 2: Okay, So then they also like the podium in the 595 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: candle room. They like the dark beams. I will say 596 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: I really like the dark beams. The fact that they 597 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: had an issue that they weren't. There was debate as 598 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 2: to whether they should go black beams. No, that was 599 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: absolutely the right decision. They wish that the shelves were 600 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: deeper in built and that the scones fit better on 601 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: the side. This is something that Tyler noticed. He said 602 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: it would have made it look more rich if the 603 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 2: shelves went back further, and of course with wiscons is fit. 604 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 2: They do like the rose art that Corney came up with. 605 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: They do think that the room looks less dramatic than 606 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: the original candle room. I mean, yeah, because the original 607 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: candle room has like thirty little candles on the wall, 608 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 2: and this is more of like a candlelit room, which 609 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 2: is kind of like every other room in the mansion 610 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: on a Rose everyoney night. 611 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 4: Also, they were like fake candles that Joan was putting up, 612 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: and I think one of the most iconic things about 613 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 4: that space when you see it on the show is 614 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 4: that they're real candles and they're flickering and it gives 615 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 4: off really gorgeous light. Yeah, so I agree with the 616 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 4: judges on that that it does feel a lot less 617 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 4: dramatic Without that. 618 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if this was a thing that they couldn't 619 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 2: get around that for this show they had to be 620 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: careful and usefully less candles. 621 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 4: You're probably right. I also think had they had the 622 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 4: candle room gone dark and moody, I think we would 623 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 4: have seen a more wow factor with fake candles lit 624 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 4: and something dark versus pink and white tile that doesn't 625 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: bounce light as well. 626 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: It looked a little feminine. It was a bachelor, you know, 627 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: if there's a Bachelor shoot. Especially. 628 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 3: I did like the tile. I did. They said that 629 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 3: a lot of people said that they liked the tile that. 630 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: X that looked better than I expected it to look. 631 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 3: It did look good. 632 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: I just I think I agree with you that maybe 633 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 4: it had if it weren't like pink and white and 634 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: it was like something other, another color, that maybe would 635 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 4: have made it feel a little bit more elevated. 636 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: I totally totally agreed. So then they we get to 637 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: the bar and wine cellar. They do love the three 638 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: D printed rows. As we were saying, I wish it 639 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 2: was like a little bit more ornate. I think they 640 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: don't love that everything is the same color. It feels flat. 641 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 2: I agreed with them on this, and they like the 642 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: modern look of the wine cellar wall. We've already talked 643 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 2: about that. 644 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: So then. 645 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 2: You made a note here that's just really funny that 646 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: you talk about her outfit change for the judging. Except 647 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 2: for Noah didn't really change. So they're all like in 648 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: their best. 649 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 3: This is my favorite part of the episode. 650 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: I'm it looks like they're getting ready for a rost ceremony, 651 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: like a professional roast ceremony, except for Noah, who's just 652 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: in his white te shirt. 653 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like Noah didn't get the memo that they 654 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 4: were doing this I don't. 655 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: I really like Tammy, but I'm like, what are you 656 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 3: wearing in this? 657 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: Oh? I think it's cute. 658 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 4: I think that it looks like she's going to a 659 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 4: house showing. I don't know, like everything is. Everybody is 660 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 4: doing their own thing, which kind of lends to this challenge, right, 661 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: everybody is doing their own different zone of the same room. 662 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 4: So everybody's kind of doing their own thing. But obviously, 663 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 4: like what I said, Courtney's look really caught my eye 664 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: at the end, and I don't know if anybody else 665 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 4: caught this, but I was like watching it and I 666 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 4: was like thinking, Courtney, like, that's a real decision to 667 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: like wear that dress. 668 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 2: Well, you have to tell everybody what it is. She's 669 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 2: wearing the dress that she got engaged on, yes, engaged 670 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 2: in on the Bachelor. And you know, this was actually 671 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: a controversial dress point back in the day because they 672 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: put her in black, which I don't think they put 673 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: any girl in that wins. They were trying to symbolize 674 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: that she was the villain with the black. 675 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 3: The black and the black gloves. 676 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: Oh, she had the black sleeves, which were amazing. 677 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that was like that was the solidifier of why 678 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 4: this dress, and this look is burned in my brain 679 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 4: still that when I was watching this, I was like, Courtney, 680 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 4: are you wearing that dress? 681 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: And I did a quick search on that that is 682 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: something I would have done for sure. 683 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 4: Quick search, and I found that it was the same dress. 684 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: So like, first of all props, Courtney, Courtney's a mommy 685 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: and she still fits into. 686 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 3: Her engagement dress ofteen years ago. We love that for you, Courtney. 687 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 2: We love it so much. I was thinking the exact 688 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 2: same thing, all right. So what ends up happening is 689 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 2: that the team that the judges end up liking the 690 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: least is the Bar and Wine Cellar, so they are 691 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 2: therefore the team that will be eliminated from and this 692 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: is where the challenge of the Golden Drill comes in 693 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 2: Golden Drill, what is it called? Was the Golden Screwdriver? Screwdriver? 694 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 4: Okay, but wait, we have to say though that so 695 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: the winning team was the Living Space, which means that 696 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 4: they choose the bottom three. The Living Space team then 697 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 4: gets to choose who's up for elimination, and they choose 698 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 4: the Bar. 699 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: And it's like, oh, that's right, that's right. How I 700 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 2: forget that this is fault it's yes, I was actually 701 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 2: shot at the Living Space one, but also very happy 702 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,800 Speaker 2: because I just wanted to see Dean and Jill safe 703 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 2: and I wanted to see Jill like have satisfaction over 704 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 2: the fact that her idea worked exactly. And now Aliyusha 705 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: is just like, well, great for me because I get 706 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 2: to go through and maybe a little bit frustrating because 707 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: maybe I was wrong, but whatever. So yeah, then they 708 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: pick the bar in Winzelar room and things get weird 709 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 2: between Dean and Noah. 710 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: Here they literally made that alliance so that they were 711 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 4: gonna kick it to the candle room and they literally. 712 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: Didn't like what that's super weird and it's still not 713 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: brought up like we as the audience need to like 714 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 2: bring that attention there. But okay, so what happens. They 715 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 2: go in there, the three of them, Jill and Elisha 716 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: and Dean, and then they go and try to eliminate someone, right. 717 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 4: That's when they remember. They go into the room and 718 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 4: they're like, okay, we each have to vote for who 719 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 4: we want to be in the bottom three, and then 720 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 4: they're when they're making their decisions, the girls are like, no, no, no, 721 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 4: we got to get the boys out. 722 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: Because they're not looking out for us. 723 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: And that's when Dean's like, well, these are my boys, 724 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 4: but I guess I get I can fall in line 725 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 4: with this, and. 726 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 3: So they end up voting for each person in the barroom. 727 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: Yes, there's all three of them have a card against 728 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: them exactly. And what's weird is that Dean and Noah, 729 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: who we thought were friends like, actually may not be. 730 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 2: Because Dean goes, he writes out on his card Noah 731 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:23,479 Speaker 2: in very dean like fashion. Yeah, and Jesse goes, I 732 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 2: think you could probably tell who wrote that, and then 733 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, a guy with an ugly mustache. So 734 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: do they not like each other? Are they just having 735 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 2: fun with each other? 736 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: I felt like it was being a little teasy funny. 737 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 4: I don't think it's too hard of feelings. But again, 738 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 4: I think, if I'm Noah, I'm like, yo, didn't we 739 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 4: just have an alliance about going out to that candle room? 740 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: Like that's what I would be thinking. 741 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: Is it just because Dean knew that the girls were 742 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 2: going to be voting the other way, so like he 743 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 2: was like, I'll just fill in the third and now 744 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: they'll have to come up with it themselves, which is 745 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: also very Dean like to put the decision in somebody 746 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: else's hands. 747 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,879 Speaker 4: Again, I literally felt like Dean did not have any 748 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 4: sort of immunity this episode, and so he was. 749 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: Just fallen in line. 750 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 4: He just to me was like last episode he was like, 751 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 4: I got immunity, I can just like do what I want. 752 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: Blue Ceilings going crazy. 753 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 4: And this time and he was a tiebreaker vote, and 754 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 4: this time he's like, pressure's off. I'm just gonna just 755 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 4: gonna follow and like do my thing because I know 756 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 4: I'm staying for another week, you know, And. 757 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 3: So which is fine. It's also fine. 758 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 4: But this is then when after they've you know, made 759 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 4: the announcement of who the bottom three are, this is 760 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 4: when Jesse comes in and tells us, you know, the 761 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 4: winner of the Golden Screwdriver is Brendan, and Brendan now 762 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,240 Speaker 4: has to choose who's going home. And this is again 763 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 4: where I'm like, this is such a downer. You have 764 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 4: all these judges, make them send somebody home. Why are 765 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 4: you making this guy turn to one of these two 766 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 4: people he just worked on a project with and be 767 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 4: like you gotta go. 768 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if they're trying to save that. When the 769 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 2: win of the Golden Screwdriver for a moment like this 770 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 2: where they were like secretly hoping that that person who 771 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: won would have been on the losing team. So he 772 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: says he hates to do it, but he ends up 773 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 2: well sending we don't know who home because now they're 774 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: ending on another cliffhanger. 775 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 4: And I think that they have to do that right, 776 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 4: because if the show doesn't have a big enough cast 777 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 4: to be knocking two contestants off every single episode, so 778 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 4: instead they're ending on a cliffhanger, and they're starting every 779 00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 4: episode on a downer, which is saying goodbye to somebody, That's. 780 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: Probably the way to do it. I think sure. 781 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean, we just came off of watching a full 782 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 4: season of The Traders, and their cast is big enough 783 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 4: that they're kicking two off every episode. 784 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 2: You're losing it. Yeah, you lose one. 785 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 4: At the top end one at the bottom in two 786 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,720 Speaker 4: different ways, and that that keeps that show moving because 787 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 4: there's so many cast members. Again, I just keep going 788 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 4: back to, this show is so small. I just really 789 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 4: feel like this element of the show is not hitting 790 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 4: for me. But then we do see scenes from next week, 791 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 4: which is the contestants are gonna be taking on the 792 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 4: pool area. So when I hear that pool construction obviously 793 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 4: takes a very long time, tile work, all that kind 794 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 4: of stuff, So I'm not anticipating that. I feel like 795 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 4: this is gonna be an episode. Next week will be 796 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 4: an episode about landscaping. I think we're gonna be seeing 797 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 4: people getting their hands dirty. I think we're gonna be 798 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 4: seeing patio furniture, barbecue furniture like that kind of stuff happening, 799 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 4: fire pits, which we don't really have. And did you 800 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 4: notice too, On the first episode, we finally saw like 801 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 4: the fountains on at the pool, which we never see 802 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 4: on because spoilers, fountains make noise and they don't use 803 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: those for a reason on shows like this, So I 804 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 4: think maybe we'll see water features or something like that. 805 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 4: But we see Courtney and Alicia not getting along, we 806 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 4: see Dean feeling annoyed, and it looks like some contestants 807 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,479 Speaker 4: a are repurposing the ceiling art that we. 808 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 3: Saw from the bunk bedroom in the first challenge. 809 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: When they said that was actually off limits to repurpose. 810 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 4: That, I guess that was is what Alicia is claiming 811 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 4: in this you know, sign for the for the next episode, 812 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 4: and then Tasia saying something to something I don't like it, Yeah. 813 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 2: And she's saying it with a lot of like strength 814 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 2: behind it, So I'm interested to see what that is. 815 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 2: I also am interested to see how Joan goes because 816 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 2: I know that Joan's decision making and her I feel 817 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 2: like she I think that a lot of people might 818 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 2: be thinking that she's a little controlling and she's having 819 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 2: too many opinions. I don't know. I think that's how 820 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: Courtney seems a little bit rubbed the wrong way. 821 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 3: This episode interesting. 822 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 4: I get the sense from Joan right that she is 823 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 4: extremely organized, and I think like probably as a mom, 824 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 4: you can speak to this too, like when you run 825 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 4: a household and like you're used to kind of like 826 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 4: being around a lot of moving pieces. I think it's 827 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 4: kind of hard to turn that off, I would expect. 828 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 4: And Joan has like kids, grandkids, you know, a lot 829 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 4: going on in her life, and she's always kind of 830 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 4: like shuffling. I've spent a lot of time around her, 831 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 4: and I've never felt like she's like aggressive or like 832 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 4: bossy or like that. 833 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: I thought that Corney may have thought she was taking 834 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: over a little bit too much. This episode. 835 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 4: We'll see, But I will say though, like it's in 836 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 4: these kinds of situations, I think you have to write. 837 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 4: Like something that I really admired about Jill in this 838 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 4: episode was she was adamant about the wall mural, but 839 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 4: she was also very quick to say, it's my fault. 840 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,879 Speaker 3: Then if it doesn't work out, I'm gonna go home. 841 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. That was so good. 842 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: And that's what you have to. 843 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 4: Do on these shows because the point is is to 844 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 4: make bold moves, it is to show your skills, but 845 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 4: it's also to have conviction about your decisions. 846 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: You know, who wants somebody that's half in, half out. 847 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 4: Those are the designs that end up being really mashed 848 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 4: together and don't work. Like you do have to have 849 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 4: somebody that's like, no, this is what we're doing, and 850 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: you're on a team and you're gonna have to give 851 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: and take from time to time. But I do think 852 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 4: that like Jill and Joan are a little bit similar 853 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 4: in that. 854 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 2: Sense, and Joan doesn't think that Jill likes her. Wait, 855 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: there was that one comment that said I'll probably be 856 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,439 Speaker 2: voted off by Jill. 857 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 3: Wait, I must have missed that. 858 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, maybe I'm being sillacious. Maybe it 859 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: was absolutely nothing, but we'll see. I keep saying we'll see. 860 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 2: I wanted to say thank you though, for bringing up 861 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: that component of Jill's, that character trait of Jill's when 862 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 2: she was just like, I don't know. If it messes up, 863 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 2: blame me, will eliminate me. 864 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 4: I think that's important, Like in something like this, you know, 865 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 4: she believed in herself and not only did it work 866 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 4: out in her favor, but then she got praise for it. 867 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 4: So I think that's obviously going to carry into the 868 00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 4: next episode. Right where we saw in the first episode 869 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 4: took a swing, it didn't really resonate with the judges, 870 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 4: and so I think that's why you maybe saw him 871 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 4: like fall back a little bit this episode where Gil's 872 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 4: going to kind of run with it and be like, Yo, 873 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 4: you didn't like the muror last time, but the judges did, 874 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: you know, Like, I think she's going to feel feel 875 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 4: herself on this next one, and she should. I think that, 876 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 4: you know, again, going back when I say that I'm 877 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 4: not like vibing with certain things about this show. It's 878 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 4: about the format, it's about how this show is being made. 879 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,959 Speaker 4: I think that the cast on this show is spectacular, 880 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,719 Speaker 4: and I think that there's such a good easy I 881 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 4: just want to see more of them doing what they 882 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:34,800 Speaker 4: do best. 883 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 3: That's all. That's my complaint, definitely. 884 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: All right. Well, I think that we talked about that 885 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 2: show as long as the show, which is pretty impressive, 886 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 2: so too, pretty cool, all right, guys, Well, thanks for 887 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 2: joining us. We will see you again later this week 888 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 2: for Frankie Friday headlines and such. Until then, I've been Ashley, I've. 889 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 3: Been Heather Bye. 890 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 1: Followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on 891 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts