WEBVTT - Emily King 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:03.640 Hi, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:04.480 Emily King. 0:00:05.280 --> 0:00:13.440 I'm just playing a long withee, I'm just playing a 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:15.520 lone with you. 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.400 Hi, I'm Nora. Welcome to the show with me as 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:28.840 always a Sarah Oda. Hi, Nora, Hi Sarah. Just a 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:32.240 side note before we get into this episode. I don't 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.080 want to be annoying, but please like and subscribe to 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.879 us so that we can keep doing this and you 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:40.320 don't miss an episode, because it'll let you know you 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.000 know how it works. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:45.840 Our guest today is Grammy nominated singer, songwriter, musician, and 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:48.080 our dear friend Emily King. 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:53.159 All around great human. Anytime her name comes up, I 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.560 feel like she knows a lot of people, and her 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.200 name comes up a lot around other people that we 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.560 don't know know her, and it's always. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.000 Like Emily King. I love her. 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:08.080 She's just like the sweetest, warmest bitter music too, and they're. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:11.040 Always her music and I love her. She's so sweet, 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:12.640 she's the best. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.600 She has roots in New York City from the Lower 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.600 East Side, and she's from a musical family, which you'll 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.120 hear about in this episode. 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.399 We actually toured with her last summer, so if you 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.880 came to any shows in the States last July. She 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.200 may have been opening. True. If you know Emily King, 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.080 you're stoked to hear this episode, And if you don't 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:37.520 know her, you're gonna be super excited that you do. 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:40.720 She has a new album that came out last month 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:42.400 called Special Occasion. 0:01:42.640 --> 0:01:44.560 We're going to do a few songs from that album. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.760 It's a very beautiful collection of songs that really hits 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:48.720 you in the fields. 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:51.920 Yes, it does. Check her out on tour. Check out 0:01:51.920 --> 0:01:54.880 her new album. Check out this episode. We had a 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:57.240 lot of fun enjoy Emily King. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:08.760 I was not already the deal gave me a heart. 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:23.600 I was still falling. But since that moment, I guess 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:30.880 up here in your knee wondering batch. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:43.359 Oh wait, come back, George, come back, come back, George, 0:02:43.880 --> 0:02:44.839 just come back. 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.480 I just need enough chance. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:52.919 Chance to make it better. 0:02:55.320 --> 0:03:02.160 Come back, George, come back, come back, Jorge to come back. 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:06.880 I just need another chance. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.320 Chest to make it better. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:17.440 I was unhappy the day you left on my door. 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.200 I was just feeling U shu. 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.000 So love mischief. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.000 No, I can honestly. 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:49.440 Shave ready to love. Oh come back, Judge to come back, 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.800 come back. Chuge just come back. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.560 I just need another chance. 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:10.360 Chest, just make a bit better. Come back, Judge, come back, comeback, 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:19.359 Charge to come back. I just need enough chance, chest 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:20.920 to make it better. 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:27.800 Oh to think that he would be resting in my arms. 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.400 However shall you George? 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:36.000 How can be. 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:37.800 You? 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:50.840 Judge come in, come back to come back. I just 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.520 need another chance. I just need a chest to make 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:01.640 it better. Come back, Judge to come back. I want 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:10.240 let you go. Comey, come back. I just need another chance, 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.279 chance just to make it better. 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:21.599 Come back, Judge, come back, come back. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.800 Jorge, just come back. 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:32.200 I just need another chance, chance to make it better. 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:40.840 Come back, George to come back, come back, George, just 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:41.720 come back. 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:50.320 I just need another chance, chest to make it better. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.880 That was great. That was really fun. Oh my god, 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:01.920 I'm getting that was so fun. Beautiful. 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.159 Oh my god, I love. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.240 We were doing good on the switching. 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:06.840 I liked it. 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:10.400 I was. I was kind of bowing right, thank you. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:13.880 Such a beautiful song. I was actually nervous to do 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:16.640 this woman, you because I've seen you do it so 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:21.240 much live with Jeremy, but also I've seen you online 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.440 do it with many other people. Really, I feel like 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.240 I've seen you do it Okay, maybe that's an exactation. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.400 I sound like a real SLUTU. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:33.400 I saw you do it Jacob Collier online. Oh yeah. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.120 And then I did this podcast with Lucas Nelson and 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.560 he said something about how he did it with you. Yeah, 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.720 so I guess in my mind it's everybody everyone's it's 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:46.720 everyone everyone's now. Like I was nervous because, yeah, it's 0:06:46.760 --> 0:06:50.600 a beautiful song, thank you, and it's really interesting. The 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:55.600 chord changes are very atypical and beautiful. Thanks. I love 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.640 all the sevens and like, you know, if you were 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.960 to just write the straight chords and play them triad style, 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.360 it wouldn't sound right. All those extensions make a difference. 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:06.920 Well, Jeremy had just taught me that chord he did 0:07:07.040 --> 0:07:11.680 win Yeah, yeah, he's he's like, you need another chord 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:12.760 in your repertoire. 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:22.680 Wait which one is it? Just like you know which? Yeah, 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:27.400 there's all those ways. Yeah. And someone had asked me 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:28.280 to write them a song. 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:32.040 Yeah, And I went to their concert and I said, oh, well, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:34.960 I think it should be the most simple song for 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.600 this singer because the singing is very simple. 0:07:38.280 --> 0:07:40.840 And so I went home and I like. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.960 I had this new chord in my pocket, and I 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.480 was like, started doing, let me get this, I'd like 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:47.320 to start with the groove. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.360 So I was doing, and then and then I wrote 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.840 it for him to sing to a woman. Georgia. Yeah, ah, 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:55.880 I was wondering. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.800 Yeah, Georgia, I know, but you know, you get into 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:03.760 the story, so it became something else. And and then 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:08.360 I remember singing it to Jeremy. Well, should you say, George. 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.640 George, I thought you were a lesbian, But no, I mean, 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.520 who knows, who knows? It could be in my future exactly. 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.560 But that's interesting you for someone else, like thinking about 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.000 it from someone else's perspective. Yes, it made it so 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:27.200 much easier to write it. That's so cool. I should 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.760 do that more. 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:30.400 Yeah, I forget to get to like do that to 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:31.400 get out of your head. 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.599 It's hard to sometimes it's so much easier to just 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:39.000 write your own deep emotions. Sometimes it's better. I do 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:43.600 find that. Yeah, usually it's better. Yeah, yeah, I think 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:46.240 I think writing from an emotional place is usually better. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.560 And sometimes it gets a little cliche and in your 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.439 feelings in the most basic way. But I think if 0:08:53.520 --> 0:08:56.560 you mean it when you're singing it, yeah, it doesn't 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:57.079 sound like that. 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.800 Yes, and it's there's no too much. It's like there's 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.319 always going to be a time when you need to 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:04.480 circle back to that thing. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.040 And there's always going to be someone who feels that way. Yeah, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:09.960 and you can always change little things. You can tweak 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.480 it a little so that it's not too you know 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.040 straight up. Yeah, I don't want to. 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.319 I mean I tend to go yeah, yeah, because it 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:21.920 feels good, will do right. It feels it's like that's 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.079 the that's the the medicine is to like get into that. 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:28.480 Yeah, it is. Well, I love all those diminished chords. 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.319 Those are my things now, I know they are. I 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.760 don't feel like you hear a lot of diminished chords 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:38.439 in non sort of jazz settings. Yeah, you know. I 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.440 like how they add that. I love. Yeah, your background 0:09:41.520 --> 0:09:45.319 comes through, yeah, you know. Yeah, the jazz. The jazz 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:49.520 is always there. It's a good foundation. Yeah. I wanted 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.760 to ask you about your parents. Oh yeah, they're the 0:09:52.840 --> 0:09:54.480 jazz musicians. There's jazz singers. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.120 Well they when I was a kid, they were okay, 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.640 they've they've evolved into well, my dad is all straight. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.960 Ahead jazz, okay, you know, he's the cat and mom 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:04.440 is like. 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:07.959 This beautiful composer and this that's so cool sort of 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:11.679 has all different genres within her. But they saying, do 0:10:11.720 --> 0:10:13.199 you know Lambert Hendrickson Ross? 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.839 So they were doing that style when I was a kid. Whoa, Yeah, 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:17.520 it's very. 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:24.840 Cloppers, Yeah, clappers, lots of diminished chords, lots of singing, lots. 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.800 Of lyrics and yeah, but it was good. It was 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.120 It was like a very rich music to have first, 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:32.880 and then I got into like R and B and 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.000 hip hop in the nineties. Okay, that's kind of that 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.959 was the time to complete sense for what I'm hearing. 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:44.079 That's that's the perfect combo. I love that. Did you 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:46.679 grow up listening to R and B, R and B? 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:47.400 I did? 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.480 Yeah in the water right, Yeah, of course it was 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.280 the popular music and we only had the radio. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.559 Yeah, and I loved the radio. And I got really 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.559 into jazz in high school and I stopped listening to 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.480 the radio so much, but it was there too because 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.880 there was all this crossover hip hop and jazz musicians, right, 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:09.080 so it was still kind of like part of my orbit. Yeah. Yeah, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:12.720 that's the best. It's the best. Yeah, the nineties I've 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:17.520 seen you d you see ninety the nineties and nineties. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.760 Who would have known it would have come back around? 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:22.599 I know. I think at the time I didn't. I 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:27.839 wasn't really into anything popular posts a certain year, and 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.719 then now it's just like that's all I can that's 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.400 all I want to hear. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:35.120 Yeah, it's also the nostalgia there is. I don't know 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.520 what I'm nostalgic for exactly, because like. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:40.120 I hated in school. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:44.800 I was so so insecure and so really so middle 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.120 school is the worst, the worst. You're like trying to 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.920 fit in and try to you know, it so hard. Yeah, 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.440 and you grew up in New York City. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:57.319 I did. I'm down in downtown, downtown. They call it Nolita. Now, yeah, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:03.280 it wasn't called that was No, it's just just like Manhattan, Yeah, downtowntown, Yeah, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.360 all encompassing. 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.320 Yes, before the whole foods and before you know, there 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:11.480 was more empty space, less people, less people. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:13.760 Boy, that's the thing. 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:16.800 I guess if I'm nostalgic, it's for that, for that. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.680 Sort of less people. 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:22.200 Yeah, that would be very less people, less stores, less 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.760 pressure to you know, you go outside with a plastic 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.800 bag in your hand, sweatpants and flip flops, and I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.719 remember there was a certain point in my adolescence where 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.320 I was like, oh my god, I have to look 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:34.440 cute out. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:37.120 To leave to go outside, because there's all these good 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:42.880 looking people around now. Yeah, like, oh I'm I have 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.920 you know, maybe that wasn't real, the real situation, but 0:12:46.200 --> 0:12:49.520 that's how you felt. Yeah, because like all these supermodels 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:53.439 started showing up and like Europeans and people fancy people. 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:53.760 Yeah. 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.480 Oh and then they started fixing the cracks in the sidewalk. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.439 Like, oh, here we go. I got to figure out 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.800 my style. Man, your style, but you have such a 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:10.760 good style. Thanks, yeah trying you didn't. Oh god, you're 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.960 in a fashion you're junior high. 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:18.240 I was. It sounds I sound like an old person 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:20.440 when I say this, but I'm older. All the kids 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:23.559 are wearing what I was wearing, you know, like the 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:27.560 Billie Eilish stuff, like you know, we had baggy north 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:28.760 face and all that stuff. 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:30.480 Yeah, it's all come full circle. Yeah. 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:34.560 So yeah, at some point a couple of years ago, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:37.280 I was like, I'm gonna wear mostly black because I 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.720 don't know how to do like other things. I don't 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.000 really know how to combine, Like you have a pretty. 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.280 This is all I have I only this is the 0:13:47.400 --> 0:13:50.160 only thing I own with the color. I mostly just 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.080 really Yeah, it's easy, it's easier to like, it's kind 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:56.040 of easier always dressy looking. I like the idea of 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:01.640 having a uniform, yes for life exactly and stage hopefully. Yeah, 0:14:02.200 --> 0:14:06.280 like two things and either every color or six of 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.240 them in black. Yes, it's just we do you do that? 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:11.240 If I find a shoe that I like, I just buy. 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:13.160 I do do that. I have. 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.600 I have a T shirt that I have at least 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.720 eight pairs of the exact same shirt, same color. It's 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.840 like a dark gray, and I think people think it's 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:25.560 very soft. It is. I'll send you the All Saints 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:29.200 took me up All Saints shimmer shirt. It's not. Yeah, 0:14:29.240 --> 0:14:31.240 it's pretty good. Yeah. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.920 When you find something you like, send me more anymore. 0:14:36.760 --> 0:14:40.720 Yeah, I think it's good jingle. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:41.840 I will do it. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:46.320 All Saints bad they give me for that damn shirt. 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:48.640 I also kind of wear them out. Do you do 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.880 you get holes in your shirts from your guitar? I 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.920 you don't practice that much. Yeah, well there you go. 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.600 Well I get holes from the moths up here really, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.240 like in the wintertime, and I used to I used 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.760 to wear out my jeans pretty like when I find 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.280 jeans that like, I'll wear them every day. I can't 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:12.680 wear pants, yeah, no, I want to do dresses, but 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.160 I don't know. I've just always it's just been a 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:15.720 tick with me. 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:17.880 Yeah. It just depends on your body type too, Like 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.280 I had a high waist, so pants hit me in 0:15:20.400 --> 0:15:23.120 the wrong spot. Yeah, they're always too tight up top, 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:27.160 so they're too tight on me too. But I don't know, 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:33.760 it's just like sacrifice pain. I have to tell myself 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:38.080 don't wear heels anymore because my feet are like hurting. 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.000 Do you so? Do your parents still live in the city. 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:43.680 They do. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.520 Everyone's in the city. My dad is on the Upper 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.920 West Side. My mom's still in the place I grew 0:15:49.000 --> 0:15:52.840 up in. Really yeah, that is really special. I feel 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:57.160 like that's like not everybody gets to go back home, like, 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.240 oh wow, you know, it's a nice way to say it, 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:02.520 That's how I would way to put it. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:04.080 No, it is. 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:07.560 It's funny going back home because there is so much 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.120 Even when I walk down some of the same streets 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.160 in the city, I feel like I'm not making progress 0:16:13.280 --> 0:16:16.120 in my life. It's a weird mental They're changing so 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:20.000 much I think I really need new things. I need 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:24.080 like constantly. That's why I love touring and traveling, because 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:26.680 you just feel like a new person. So sometimes when 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:28.720 I go back home, it's like I have a time 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.880 limit how long I can be there, otherwise I start 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:36.000 feeling like a kid again. I guess I when everyone 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:36.360 has that. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.680 Mothers have a way of me like that, I turned 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.120 into a thirteen year old even though we're not in 0:16:43.240 --> 0:16:46.640 the same You do too, I do. But also I 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.240 feel like, if you're going back to the house you 0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.960 grew up in the place you grew up, it's definitely 0:16:51.360 --> 0:16:53.560 gotta feel like that. Yeah, it is. 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:57.200 Or like she'll say things like, oh, but you never 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.640 you know, you don't like doing this, and I'm like 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:00.560 that was when I was. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.560 Eight years old. I didn't like you know. I'm like, 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.040 can we refresh? 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.680 You're bringing me back in time to my old insecurities 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.639 and my old problems. 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:12.880 That's a family thing. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.800 Yeah, it's a family thing. Hard Do you have the 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:16.840 place you grew up in? 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.560 Yeah? Did you? Guys, we moved around a lot when 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:24.679 I was a kid, so I was set. It was fine, 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.440 you have to make a new friend different. I don't 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.879 have a lot of friends from growing up. Yeah, I 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:32.720 have one friend I reconnected with, but we didn't talk 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.680 for like twenty years. So oh wow, it's not like 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.480 we were always friends, right, But really, because I moved 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:42.119 around a lot, I didn't keep a lot of friends 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.159 from pre high school. That makes sense, which kind of 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.920 that's you have siblings. I have a half sister. Oh, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.080 but we did not grow up together. Okay, so yeah, 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.040 it was just me and my mom. And wow, we 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.560 moved a lot, and we moved a lot weirdly in 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:00.040 the same area, so it would be like not it 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:03.119 would be like the same neighboring town, but a different 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:06.840 school district. Interesting, so you know what I mean? Where 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:10.080 was that in Texas? Oh, I'm going to grape Vine, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.639 cotgl Yeah, but no accent because you moved around maybe 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.200 well it was mostly in Texas. Yeah, but I also, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.920 I've been in New York since nineteen ninety ninety. 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:23.760 Oh no, it's party like it's nineteen ninety night. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.840 And I was born in New York but I really Yeah, 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:32.760 do you know what hospital Mount SINAI? Ooh, and I lived. 0:18:33.000 --> 0:18:37.080 I think we lived on twenty fourth in Lexington. Wow, 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:38.920 so I was three or four and then we moved 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:41.880 to Texas. Amazing. Yeah, so you're in New Yorker. Wow. 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.960 I always felt like I was. Yeah, but you know 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:50.720 those formative first three years. Yeah yeah, right, yeah, yeah, 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.840 I mean I definitely am in Texan. Yeah. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:56.399 But you lived in the city too, Yeah, yeah for 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.920 a long time. What neighborhood for the last twenty years. 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:03.399 I think it was like, you know, East Village, West Village, 0:19:03.400 --> 0:19:07.520 at some Brooklyn, some Usburg, some South Brooklyn. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:07.960 Right. 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:11.720 Yeah, I moved on. That's cool. I like moving. I 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.800 also like the sense of home. But I love touring. 0:19:15.520 --> 0:19:17.760 You do to, of course they do. I also, I 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:20.560 don't know, some people really don't enjoy People don't enjoy it, 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.520 and I understand, but there's different reasons for that. Yeah. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:25.440 I mean I also feel like I tour in a 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:29.280 fashion that is really fortunate because I, you know, had 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.680 success early so I can have a tour bus. Yeah. 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:33.000 Yeah. 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:34.879 Some people don't like a tour bus even but I 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.600 find it super comfy. That's good because I have to 0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.080 go on tour and a tour bus. Are you going 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:40.640 on a bus? 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:41.040 Yeah? 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.680 And it's been four years since I have done that. Yeah, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.640 And I actually was sort of dreading it a little 0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.840 bit really, because because I'm so used to home, or 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.879 I've been home so long that you know, I don't know, 0:19:55.080 --> 0:19:57.560 I sort of dread anything that I have to do. 0:19:58.320 --> 0:19:59.520 I'm kind I'm kind of like that. 0:20:00.080 --> 0:20:01.800 So the point that I'm in there and then you're 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:03.480 like in it, yeah, and then I'm like, oh, it 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:05.840 was fun, then I start I don't want to go home. 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.879 You know we're dreading this. No this, I want this. 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:15.320 I wasn't dreading. I knew everything in that when I'm 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.639 glad we were scheduled because that was I was a 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:22.040 little bit dicey. Yeah, I didn't want to rush, but no, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:23.080 you had to go to Europe. 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:26.680 Yeah, that's cool, it's fun. You went. Are you doing 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:31.280 press for your new record? Yes? That is exciting. That's exciting. Well, 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.840 that always feels like a lot of like anxiety before 0:20:34.880 --> 0:20:37.680 you put out a record, like you're done with it 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:39.760 and you're excited about it and you know you like 0:20:39.880 --> 0:20:42.200 it or love it, but then you have to go 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.119 talk about it. It's kind of a funny in between 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.680 place before it comes out right it is. 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.720 I'm not a good salesman, so I'm trying, like I 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:53.879 really want to do my best to make the record 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:58.520 heard by people, but I don't. You know, It's funny 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:00.760 because you have these conversations with the Lake and they're like, well, 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:01.879 what is the album about? 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:02.239 Oh? 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:03.720 They want to know how to sell it? 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:07.240 Yeah, so yeah, what is it about? And let's get 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:07.680 to dirt. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:08.639 We want to know, you know. 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.280 So I'm like, well, it's I was working in a brothel, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:12.040 you know. 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:15.000 And then I got Then I had to get sober, 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.879 you know. I'm trying to come up with this like 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.920 oh bye, and then I don't know. 0:21:22.000 --> 0:21:24.359 I could think of I couldn't think of anything. And 0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:28.560 it's basically, I don't know that what people will take 0:21:28.640 --> 0:21:30.879 from the record is what it's actually about. 0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.880 Well said, it's not great to tell people what something's 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.600 about because then they have these preconceived ideas. That's right, 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.080 And I think the reason music is so beautiful is 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.560 that you can put it out there and people can 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:45.119 relate to it however they want to. 0:21:45.359 --> 0:21:45.760 Mm hmm. 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:50.880 I totally are really yes, I totally agree people, yeah, 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.800 especially to sell music now because it's hard to They 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:55.920 really want they want to have like a hook and 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:57.160 story for people. 0:21:57.800 --> 0:21:59.560 Yeah, it's like, is it a makeup album? Is it 0:21:59.600 --> 0:22:03.960 a break about it's you know, so it's sort of 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:04.840 hard to explain. 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:07.040 Yeah, you don't have to explain it to me. Oh, 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:11.480 thank you the one place because already no, right, I 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:14.400 know you do. But I'm also like, I just love 0:22:14.480 --> 0:22:18.520 getting inside these new songs. Thank you, Thank you for 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:22.000 listening to them. Yeah, I mean I think we should 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.040 do one and then it would be fun get to 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:25.520