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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Nora Jones and today I'm playing along with

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Speaker 1: Emily King.

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Speaker 2: I'm just playing a long withee, I'm just playing a

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Speaker 2: lone with you.

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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Nora. Welcome to the show with me as

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Speaker 1: always a Sarah Oda. Hi, Nora, Hi Sarah. Just a

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Speaker 1: side note before we get into this episode. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be annoying, but please like and subscribe to

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Speaker 1: us so that we can keep doing this and you

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Speaker 1: don't miss an episode, because it'll let you know you

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Speaker 1: know how it works.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is Grammy nominated singer, songwriter, musician, and

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Speaker 3: our dear friend Emily King.

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Speaker 1: All around great human. Anytime her name comes up, I

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Speaker 1: feel like she knows a lot of people, and her

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Speaker 1: name comes up a lot around other people that we

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Speaker 1: don't know know her, and it's always.

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Speaker 4: Like Emily King. I love her.

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Speaker 3: She's just like the sweetest, warmest bitter music too, and they're.

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Speaker 1: Always her music and I love her. She's so sweet,

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Speaker 1: she's the best.

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Speaker 3: She has roots in New York City from the Lower

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Speaker 3: East Side, and she's from a musical family, which you'll

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Speaker 3: hear about in this episode.

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Speaker 1: We actually toured with her last summer, so if you

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Speaker 1: came to any shows in the States last July. She

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Speaker 1: may have been opening. True. If you know Emily King,

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Speaker 1: you're stoked to hear this episode, And if you don't

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Speaker 1: know her, you're gonna be super excited that you do.

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Speaker 3: She has a new album that came out last month

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Speaker 3: called Special Occasion.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do a few songs from that album.

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Speaker 3: It's a very beautiful collection of songs that really hits

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Speaker 3: you in the fields.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it does. Check her out on tour. Check out

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Speaker 1: her new album. Check out this episode. We had a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun enjoy Emily King.

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Speaker 5: I was not already the deal gave me a heart.

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Speaker 6: I was still falling. But since that moment, I guess

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Speaker 6: up here in your knee wondering batch.

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Speaker 5: Oh wait, come back, George, come back, come back, George,

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Speaker 5: just come back.

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Speaker 1: I just need enough chance.

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Speaker 4: Chance to make it better.

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Speaker 5: Come back, George, come back, come back, Jorge to come back.

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Speaker 4: I just need another chance.

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Speaker 7: Chest to make it better.

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Speaker 8: I was unhappy the day you left on my door.

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Speaker 8: I was just feeling U shu.

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Speaker 4: So love mischief.

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Speaker 7: No, I can honestly.

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Speaker 5: Shave ready to love. Oh come back, Judge to come back,

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Speaker 5: come back. Chuge just come back.

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Speaker 6: I just need another chance.

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Speaker 4: Chest, just make a bit better. Come back, Judge, come back, comeback,

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Speaker 4: Charge to come back. I just need enough chance, chest

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Speaker 4: to make it better.

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Speaker 6: Oh to think that he would be resting in my arms.

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Speaker 9: However shall you George?

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Speaker 4: How can be.

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Speaker 1: You?

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Speaker 4: Judge come in, come back to come back. I just

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Speaker 4: need another chance. I just need a chest to make

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Speaker 4: it better. Come back, Judge to come back. I want

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Speaker 4: let you go. Comey, come back. I just need another chance,

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Speaker 4: chance just to make it better.

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Speaker 6: Come back, Judge, come back, come back.

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Speaker 4: Jorge, just come back.

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Speaker 5: I just need another chance, chance to make it better.

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Speaker 5: Come back, George to come back, come back, George, just

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Speaker 5: come back.

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Speaker 4: I just need another chance, chest to make it better.

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Speaker 1: That was great. That was really fun. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting that was so fun. Beautiful.

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Speaker 10: Oh my god, I love.

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Speaker 1: We were doing good on the switching.

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Speaker 4: I liked it.

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Speaker 1: I was. I was kind of bowing right, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Such a beautiful song. I was actually nervous to do

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Speaker 1: much live with Jeremy, but also I've seen you online

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Speaker 1: I saw you do it Jacob Collier online. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: so I guess in my mind it's everybody everyone's it's

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Speaker 1: all the sevens and like, you know, if you were

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Speaker 12: Well, Jeremy had just taught me that chord he did

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Speaker 12: win Yeah, yeah, he's he's like, you need another chord

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Speaker 1: Wait which one is it? Just like you know which? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's all those ways. Yeah. And someone had asked me

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Speaker 12: Yeah, And I went to their concert and I said, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: And so I went home and I like.

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Speaker 12: I had this new chord in my pocket, and I

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Speaker 1: So I was doing, and then and then I wrote

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Speaker 12: Yeah, Georgia, I know, but you know, you get into

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Speaker 12: the story, so it became something else. And and then

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Speaker 12: I remember singing it to Jeremy. Well, should you say, George.

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Speaker 1: George, I thought you were a lesbian, But no, I mean,

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Speaker 1: who knows, who knows? It could be in my future exactly.

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Speaker 1: But that's interesting you for someone else, like thinking about

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Speaker 1: it from someone else's perspective. Yes, it made it so

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Speaker 1: much easier to write it. That's so cool. I should

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Speaker 12: Yeah, I forget to get to like do that to

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Speaker 1: It's hard to sometimes it's so much easier to just

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Speaker 1: And sometimes it gets a little cliche and in your

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Speaker 12: Yes, and it's there's no too much. It's like there's

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Speaker 1: And there's always going to be someone who feels that way. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: I mean I tend to go yeah, yeah, because it

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Speaker 12: the that's the the medicine is to like get into that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. Well, I love all those diminished chords.

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Speaker 1: Those are my things now, I know they are. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like you hear a lot of diminished chords

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Speaker 1: in non sort of jazz settings. Yeah, you know. I

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Speaker 1: like how they add that. I love. Yeah, your background

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Speaker 12: Well they when I was a kid, they were okay,

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Speaker 12: they've they've evolved into well, my dad is all straight.

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Speaker 12: This beautiful composer and this that's so cool sort of

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Speaker 12: you know Lambert Hendrickson Ross?

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Speaker 12: Cloppers, Yeah, clappers, lots of diminished chords, lots of singing, lots.

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Speaker 1: Of lyrics and yeah, but it was good. It was

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Speaker 1: It was like a very rich music to have first,

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Speaker 12: Yeah in the water right, Yeah, of course it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I loved the radio. And I got really

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Speaker 1: that's the best. It's the best. Yeah, the nineties I've

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's also the nostalgia there is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I hated in school.

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Speaker 12: school is the worst, the worst. You're like trying to

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Speaker 1: I did. I'm down in downtown, downtown. They call it Nolita. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 12: Yes, before the whole foods and before you know, there

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Speaker 1: Boy, that's the thing.

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Speaker 12: I guess if I'm nostalgic, it's for that, for that.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that would be very less people, less stores, less

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Speaker 11: pressure to you know, you go outside with a plastic

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Speaker 12: To leave to go outside, because there's all these good

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Speaker 12: looking people around now. Yeah, like, oh I'm I have

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Speaker 12: you know, maybe that wasn't real, the real situation, but

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Speaker 12: that's how you felt. Yeah, because like all these supermodels

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Speaker 12: started showing up and like Europeans and people fancy people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Oh and then they started fixing the cracks in the sidewalk.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh, here we go. I got to figure out

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Speaker 1: my style. Man, your style, but you have such a

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Speaker 1: good style. Thanks, yeah trying you didn't. Oh god, you're

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Speaker 1: in a fashion you're junior high.

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Speaker 12: I was. It sounds I sound like an old person

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Speaker 12: when I say this, but I'm older. All the kids

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Speaker 12: are wearing what I was wearing, you know, like the

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Speaker 12: Billie Eilish stuff, like you know, we had baggy north

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all come full circle. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I moved on. That's cool. I like moving. I

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Speaker 12: little bit dicey. Yeah, I didn't want to rush, but no,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's cool, it's fun. You went. Are you doing

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Speaker 1: that always feels like a lot of like anxiety before

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Speaker 12: what is the album about?

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Speaker 1: They want to know how to sell it?

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Speaker 1: We want to know, you know.

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Speaker 12: So I'm like, well, it's I was working in a brothel,

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Speaker 12: I could think of I couldn't think of anything. And

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Speaker 1: Well said, it's not great to tell people what something's

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Speaker 1: I totally are really yes, I totally agree people, yeah,

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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's like, is it a makeup album? Is it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to explain it to me. Oh,

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Speaker 1: thank you the one place because already no, right, I

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Speaker 1: know you do. But I'm also like, I just love

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Speaker 1: listening to them. Yeah, I mean I think we should

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Speaker 12: Yeah, they could hate it, you know, move on to

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Speaker 12: the next broad exactly.

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Speaker 1: No, No, nothing's fraudulent here. Should we try that one?

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Speaker 1: You did a song with Lucas. Yeah, Lucas it Nell says.

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Speaker 1: He's so sweet. He really is a sweetheart. And his

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Speaker 1: voice it's beautiful, so beautiful. He just keeps getting better

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Speaker 1: and you did this online? So you did like a remote?

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Speaker 1: Did you actually see each other online or do you

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Speaker 1: just send stuff back and forth? We just sent stuff

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Speaker 1: back and forth. That's so crazy, right, I know, it's funny,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy.

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Speaker 12: I feel like I know him because I'm on his

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's easy to get to know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a nice way to say. Yeah, in

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Speaker 1: I'm sweet. All right, let me get my lyrics. Do

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Speaker 1: would love to so. Yeah. I love the song Let's

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Speaker 1: check hioks, you look beautiful? Oh stop, you.

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Speaker 7: Give me a bad.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: All this shows a good times we hid Toyllo reason

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Speaker 13: All this makes me said, you are too hard to forget.

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Speaker 13: I'm drowning and regret, oh darding.

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Speaker 4: Won't you let me free? You still dream about the past.

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Speaker 6: I'm rounding from it fast?

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Speaker 4: Don't I want to ask about my story? I care?

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Speaker 5: Let it be.

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Speaker 4: age in my.

441
00:25:40,080 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 14: Everything reminds me you used to have a kind red collection. Everything,

442
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 14: every memory just makes me you are to how to forget.

443
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 13: I'm drowning in redred, Oh dared, and won't you let

444
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 13: me free? Extusie about the best I'm riding from it fast.

445
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 4: Don't ask about my story. I care letting it be.

446
00:26:31,560 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 9: I've got a bad bad memory. You are too how

447
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 9: to fucket?

448
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 14: I'm drowning men regret, Oh God, and won't you let

449
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 14: me free?

450
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 4: You still dream about the best story? Riding from it first?

451
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: Don't ask by my story.

452
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 15: I can't let it be.

453
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 9: I've got a bad bad memory.

454
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 4: I care let it be.

455
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 9: I've got a bad bad memory.

456
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 4: You'll let it be. I've got a bad bad memory.

457
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: It's a perfect ending. It was good. That was awesome.

458
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: That was so pretty. I messed up a lyric, but

459
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: I kind of fixed it was perfect. Okay, Yeah, I

460
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,239
Speaker 1: didn't know how much everything is. Lucas is gonna call

461
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: me and be you had a lyric, dear you, that's

462
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: so cool. Though you wrote this with Lucas too, or

463
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: he just sang on it. He's sang on this one

464
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: so well.

465
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 12: So he definitely inspired this one because his song Georgia,

466
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 12: when we did that Georgia exchange, it got in my psyche.

467
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: And when I started writing this, I was like, oh.

468
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,239
Speaker 12: I hear Lucas's voice on here, and only later did

469
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 12: I realize it was directly like inspired.

470
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: Is kind of similar. So I called him up. I

471
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, am I ripping you off? Is this okay? Oh?

472
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Well that's great, that's one way to do so I.

473
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 12: Think he you know, if all people understands how songwriting works,

474
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 12: it's like you get inspired and things, you know.

475
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that there is no songwriting

476
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: without being inspired by other songs, right, That's what I think.

477
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: We don't come up with everything, no, though, I will

478
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: say I've been listening to a lot of pop radio

479
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: with my kids. Oh, and there are definitely a few

480
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: songs that, like production and everything are clearly ripping off

481
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: songs from the nineties Hello we grew up with. But

482
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: it's funny because I don't realize it at first, and

483
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: I just love the song. Yeah, you're like, why this

484
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: is a jam?

485
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 12: I'm into this, like that weekend song. I just realized

486
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 12: what is from the nineties that song?

487
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't remember what song writing now, But so

488
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: he's well, he sings a song that I was like, Oh,

489
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: that's I don't want to know if you're playing me, I.

490
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 12: Don't know it's on the radio all the time. But

491
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 12: I was like, that's familiar, and it's from the night.

492
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 12: It's a total cover from the night.

493
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh, it's an actual sound like Grandma, Yes, where Granny

494
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: is by actual cover. But it's fine, like sometimes I am,

495
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: but it's good sometimes. Also when they use that production

496
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: and blatantly copy it, yeah, it's like clearly not an accident. Actually,

497
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: I just love it even more so I don't really care,

498
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: you know what, like when did we when? When did

499
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: we decide that it was bad to do something again?

500
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: You know, I guess, I guess if the original person

501
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: never got paid well paid a lot, that's the answer.

502
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: That's when it matters. That's when it's bad.

503
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, if you're not, you're yeah, totally I know so.

504
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: But if they are, then it's really good. Yeah, it's

505
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: great for everyone. The spread the money, spread it around,

506
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: and you know some folks need that so especially back

507
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: in the day. Ye, back in the day, what kind

508
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 1: of deals they were doing? God, speaking of deals, I

509
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: do have a question for you. Okay, when we went

510
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: on a walk, Yeah, you told me something I didn't know, really, Yeah.

511
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 10: You when did so?

512
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: Okay? Wait, what order should I ask it. It doesn't matter.

513
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 4: You told me.

514
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: You told me that you got signed by Clive Davis. Yeah,

515
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: is that a secretor no? Oh yeah, okay, that's crazy.

516
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 12: That was Peter peters Edge was the anara there that

517
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 12: really put me on and then brought me to Clive.

518
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: What year was this, This was two thousand and three. Okay, yeah, so,

519
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: and that was around the time that Clive had Alicia Keys. Yes,

520
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: she was. She was so, she was huge, she was.

521
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: They would send me clip pictures of her like, Okay,

522
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: first of all, I love Alicia. Oh I love her

523
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: so much.

524
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 12: So I'm just but it was back in the day

525
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 12: I had a different idea of her because they were like,

526
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 12: you need to be Alicia Keys. They were trying to

527
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 12: just have you be the next Yeah, They're like, you

528
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 12: have a guitar and she has a piano.

529
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?

530
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 12: It was really like not good for a young person

531
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 12: to compare themselves constantly with someone else, but they were

532
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 12: feeding that. Yeah, Like they sent me text message of

533
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 12: like Alicia jogging on the beach with abs and they're

534
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 12: like you should do that.

535
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 7: You serious?

536
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: It was like very strange. Okay, that is strange. It was.

537
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 12: It was a strange environment, but I'm so grateful for

538
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 12: it because all of these ideas I had about and

539
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 12: I wanted that I wanted to be in the major

540
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 12: label situation. And this was before the Internet, when it

541
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 12: was still yeah yeah, I was like, I'm like, I'm

542
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 12: going to be as big success, you know, And I

543
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 12: learned all these valuable lessons along the way.

544
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: And it was hard and it was all.

545
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 12: The things, and then finally it wasn't a success, you know,

546
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 12: and in retrospect, thank god, because it wasn't.

547
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: Really what I was trying to do, Like musically was

548
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: did you you made an album? Though? And yeah, I

549
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: mean I I so. I met CHUCKI.

550
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 12: Thompson rest his soul, amazing Chucky Thompson, and he was

551
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 12: my teacher and my guide through that process, and I

552
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 12: signed a production deal with.

553
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 1: Him, which is what you did back then.

554
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 12: Yeah that's right, you know, and then through him, I

555
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 12: signed with them, and then we had this like three

556
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 12: years of artist development, which is.

557
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: Like at a time at the salon, that's a wormhole.

558
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, it was, that is crazy. It was like writing

559
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 12: with try this, yeah, try this, writer.

560
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: Away that didn't fit, try this, Yeah, let's try this. Oh,

561
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: we know, Oh you know what.

562
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 12: We want you to sound like Lauren Hill. Here's her producers,

563
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 12: and we want you to sound like D'Angelo here's his

564
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 12: you know. So it was like constantly like, well when

565
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 12: do I get a chance to.

566
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,479
Speaker 1: Figure out who I am?

567
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 10: You know?

568
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: And that sounds like a factory. It was. It was,

569
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: and again like a lot. I learned a lot from it,

570
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of people come out of that that

571
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: scenario finding themselves, but not not everyone. Yeah, no, I

572
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: mean I could.

573
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 12: I thank god I had the support around me and

574
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 12: my family and you know, they were just keeping me honest.

575
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: I kind of Yeah, you have to have someone keeping

576
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: you honest, or you have to sucked into whatever it

577
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: is that people are telling you to do. Oh yeah,

578
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: and you'll start singing about stuff that five years down

579
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: the line, you're gonna be like, I'm never gonna say

580
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: those words again.

581
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 12: I know my whole first record, I mean, I put

582
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 12: so much time and effort into it, and I remember

583
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 12: it got nominated for a Grammy.

584
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

585
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 16: I know.

586
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: See, I don't really know a lot about your history.

587
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: Well that's fine, amazing talk about.

588
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 12: I just bring that up to say, like I remember

589
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 12: being at this Grammy party and just feeling like not

590
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 12: one hundred percent confident because I came from this really

591
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 12: really musical upbringing, and I knew that I had made

592
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 12: compromises with the record that I made, you know, and

593
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 12: that felt really bad to me because it was always

594
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 12: music first in my life with my family, and then

595
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 12: at some point it became like hairstyle first, or fashion

596
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 12: or you know, fame, fame first.

597
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: It got caught up in that machine.

598
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 12: Yeah, the people said, well, do it our way now,

599
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 12: and when that's a success, you can do it your way.

600
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: And it's so backwards it works. It actually doesn't ever work. Yeah,

601
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: because people people can hear even if they don't know

602
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: anything about songwriting or production or they don't care, they

603
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: can hear your heart through the through the radio. Yes,

604
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, and there we was.

605
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 12: There was definitely people who would tell me that then anyway,

606
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 12: it was what it was, and I'm grateful for it,

607
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 12: and you know, you.

608
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: Got a great story after that. I got dropped, I

609
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: got fired, And did that feel like a relief or

610
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: a failure at that time? Both?

611
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 12: Yeah, because I didn't have any money, of course, yeah,

612
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 12: you're a musician, and I didn't have an. I was

613
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 12: happy to part ways musically that didn't work out, and

614
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 12: like having an an art you know, although shout out

615
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 12: to Peter because he's, you know, an important person in

616
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 12: my in my development. No, that's part of their they're

617
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 12: in the machine too.

618
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

619
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 12: But I fortunately met my producer just as I was

620
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 12: leaving them, who was my guitar player at the time,

621
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 12: and then he became my producer, Jeremy most So there

622
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 12: was like a transition. That's a good transition.

623
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Was I was lucky? Wow? Well I didn't know

624
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: any of that. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. Did you

625
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: have those experiences? I didn't I had. I was doing

626
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: jazz gigs and then I was I had just started

627
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: writing songs. I had only been to New York about

628
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: eight months. Wow. I dropped out of jam Texas. Yeah.

629
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: I dropped out of jazz college and I moved to

630
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: New York after the right choice. Wow, I mean, what

631
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: do you say? It like that? But I learned a

632
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: lot and then I left when I was like, Okay,

633
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to get a degree in education. Yeah,

634
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's what I'm going to do.

635
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: But I came and I was doing jazz gigs around town,

636
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: but mostly in restaurants because I mean I hadn't even

637
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't even get a gig at a club, right,

638
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't even that scene. Yeah, But then

639
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: I started hanging out the living room. Did you ever

640
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: hang out there? No?

641
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 12: That was before my year younger. They closed after it room.

642
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, so I started hanging out with Jesse, Harris,

643
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: Richard Julian, all these songwriters. We became really good friends.

644
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: And at a certain point, Jesse booked a gig for

645
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: me to sing his songs at the living room because

646
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: it was a songwriter a club, right, And so I

647
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: was singing his songs and I threw in like the

648
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: two songs I wrote, and my bass player at the time,

649
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Lee Alexander, was writing songs. So we did a few

650
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: of his songs. Oh that's cool. And then I was

651
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: doing some jazz gig and someone saw me and liked

652
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: the way I was singing and playing and got me

653
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: a meeting with Bruce len Vallave Luno. Wow, and then

654
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: they ended up signing I did the same thing. It

655
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: was like a demo deal. It gave me money to

656
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 1: make some more recordings. It wasn't the same thing because

657
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't a full on production, wasn't like a sixth

658
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: album deal. No, And they weren't. They weren't involved in

659
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: the recordings I was making so much. But I think

660
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: the general idea was try to work on the songwriting

661
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: project and not the straight ahead jazz project, and it

662
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: ended up becoming the record was that little band with

663
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 1: Jesse and Lee.

664
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 12: Do you think that's because I mean, because there wasn't

665
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 12: pressure for it to be the record or I think, well,

666
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 12: there was this whole roundabout thing where I actually ended

667
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 12: up using a producer.

668
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: I really loved Craig Street, who did a great job

669
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: producing the kind of music I wanted to because I

670
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: was in love with Cassandra Wilson that record daughter, Do

671
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: you know that record? Is that one with Harvest Meat? Yeah?

672
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's the best beautiful. I loved that record.

673
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: I still do, and so I got Craig to produce it,

674
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: and Craig did a great job. But it was very

675
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: dark and moody, kind of like you know, it wasn't

676
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: a lot like that record. It was very much not

677
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: trying to be that record, but it had more of

678
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: a dark moodiness, and we ended up going back and

679
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: using like some of the demos I made for the record. Wow,

680
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: And so I didn't know. It didn't sound like the

681
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: same situation. It sounded a little more free. Nice. You

682
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: loved it. I loved it, But I loved it. I

683
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: did love it, but I also was twenty two. Yeah,

684
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: I was still fake, like I loved singing Jesse songs,

685
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to do that. Only right, because

686
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: you're a songwriter, Well, I wasn't yet. I only had

687
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: like two songs on that record. I was just starting

688
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: to write songs and I was scared of it, right,

689
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 1: And so now I feel very confident saying I'm a songwriter. Yeah,

690
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: then I didn't, right, I still finding myself. But I

691
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: definitely felt like I had some room to do that.

692
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: But you were such a good storyteller. Of the songs

693
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: that were on that record, it felt like it was

694
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: your song. Some of them felt like my songs. I mean.

695
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: I also, I think because I grew up singing jazz, Yeah,

696
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: it was all right trying to sell those stories, right, Yes,

697
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: did you grow up singing jazz? Yeah with your parents? Yeah?

698
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

699
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite favorite song? Maybe we used

700
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: to go to our tur We still do.

701
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I love our tur My dad would teach

702
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 12: a vocal class there with the incredible Harry Whittaker. Am

703
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 12: it was since past, but he was an angel, and

704
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 12: you know, all the singers would go there and I

705
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 12: would always sing if.

706
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: You could see me now.

707
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 12: I don't know why I related so much of that

708
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 12: song as a youth, If you could see me now,

709
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 12: you know how blu up been. But there's just so

710
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 12: many incredible songs. I mean, so many off the top

711
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 12: of my head. I can't remember.

712
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: I know, it's it's hard to remember. I was thinking

713
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 1: of a We'd bust one. Do you have a favorite one?

714
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: It's hard for me too. I used to saying, I'll

715
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: be seeing you.

716
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 6: Oh.

717
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: And it was a straight ripoff of Edda James's version,

718
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: which was a Billie Holiday tribute. So it was like

719
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: a twice removed ripoff. Yeah, but in a beautiful way.

720
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets better when it's it's just like it's

721
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: like the game of telephone. It just keeps changing. Yeah,

722
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: they keep changing.

723
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 12: Certainly, I don't always love the original recordings of things. Yeah,

724
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 12: but it never entered my mind, is so uh Harry

725
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 12: used to play that all the time. Really so beautiful.

726
00:41:53,440 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: So when I do you say the let me play.

727
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 17: So uneasy minch.

728
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: It never entered myma, what you told me.

729
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 4: That I'd awaken.

730
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: Thought it's so pretty, little snippet and then they'll kill

731
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: me because they have to get clearance for everything.

732
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 4: So pretty.

733
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's so beautiful. Have you ever thought

734
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 1: of doing a jazz record? Is too close to him?

735
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 12: I don't think I sing jazz very well. You don't

736
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 12: think about that yet.

737
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: I don't.

738
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 12: I honestly get really nervous when I sing jazz.

739
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know.

740
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 12: That's fine, just feels like such a it has to

741
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 12: be represented, you know.

742
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I also feel like if your parents grew

743
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: up singing more of a Lambert Hendricks and rastyle, which

744
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: is completely opposite of what I grew up kind of

745
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: playing that's also with its own weight, like history, like

746
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: a jazz history style, almost as very complicated and complex. Yeah,

747
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: totally hard to do, like a rhythmic. I think, yeah, yeah, well,

748
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: what kind did you grow up? That is a lot

749
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: of ballads? Yeah yeah, I did some like you know,

750
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: mellow swing, but I could never play fast and I

751
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: have this hilarious recording of me in high school Ska

752
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: singing you know I tried it, don't fun. Don't ask

753
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: me this gas, don't ask me. I have a friend

754
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: Sasha Dobson. She actually does it really well and teastefully

755
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: without it being you know that. It's a rare thing.

756
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: It's rare. Yeah. I feel like only Ella could scat

757
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: and not to scout like Ella. If I could scot

758
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: like Ella, I would scat all the time. Yeah, yeah,

759
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: I would scatter all over the play taking easy. Yeah,

760
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's a hard thing to pull off. Oh

761
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,479
Speaker 1: my god.

762
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 12: My brother can scat really, and both my parents. But yeah,

763
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 12: because it because the rhythmic thing that's part of that.

764
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: Tradition, especially if you're in the Lambert Hendrickson Roth style

765
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: of like Bbop and the Yeah. So that was that

766
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: was cool. But yeah, the ballads and the ballads are

767
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: the best. I could turn anything into a ballad. Hey,

768
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: that's a good skill to have. Oh, speaking of completely

769
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: opposite things, I saw your Thing with Mark Revier. Oh.

770
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: I love Mark.

771
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: He's amazing the best. I did the podcast with it.

772
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I saw that so fun. That is so cool. I

773
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: love him. He went to my high school in Texas. Way, Oh,

774
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: you're both from Texas, so much younger than me. But yeah,

775
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: he's a lot younger than me. It was my man

776
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: h school with me. Oh, I know, he's a big fan,

777
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: you know him. I've known him for a long time.

778
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: I've known him maybe two years. Oh okay, Yeah, was

779
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: that like the first time you guys did anything together.

780
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 12: Yeah, Jeremy sent me Marks when he was doing stuff

781
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 12: from home in Texas. He was doing like reviews of records,

782
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 12: and he did a review of our record. Oh that's

783
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 12: so cool, it was, and I was like, oh, he's

784
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 12: an interesting guy.

785
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 4: And then.

786
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: Then we talked a little bit online. And then.

787
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 12: The street that I grew up on in Manhattan. Sorry,

788
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 12: my brain just stopped working. When Biden won, I was

789
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 12: standing on the corner of that street on Houston Street,

790
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 12: and of course everybody is like.

791
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: The cars are honking and everything, and here comes Mark

792
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: on his.

793
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 12: Wheeling around the corner and I'm already jumping up and down,

794
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 12: and he jumps off of his bike and we start

795
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 12: jumping up and down together.

796
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: And that was the first time we met.

797
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's so crazy.

798
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: I know, it's weird.

799
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 12: That is weird, but he just has that great energy

800
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 12: about him, like he's so spontaneous and his energy is

801
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 12: the best. That's the best energy. So it's fun because

802
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 12: I was really nervous to do his show, his stream,

803
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 12: but he's so not nervous that like instantly and it

804
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 12: was just fun.

805
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was nervous too, and I'm like, how do

806
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: I prepare? Oh, you don't prepare when the music is

807
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: all improvised on the spot. Yes, but you're jazz, so

808
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: you're I'm used to improvising, but but I mean not

809
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. But also he kind of carries it

810
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: because he's got, you know, the stuff totally and if

811
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: you don't do anything, he'll just keep going. So it's

812
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: like fine, exactly, Yes, that's awesome. Yeah, he's pretty rad. Hey, Mark,

813
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: you know he's listening. Should we do another song? Yeah?

814
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: So we toured together last summer. Thank you so much fun.

815
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you could do it.

816
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 12: My friend is going to be in Portsmouth today, New Hampshire,

817
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 12: and I.

818
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, we had the best time there.

819
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 4: That was the best, the best.

820
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: Hay, that venue was crazy. It was so fun.

821
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 12: I hope you tell them to get there early. I know,

822
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 12: well he's not playing though he's not playing, but he's

823
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 12: just going to be in the town.

824
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: Okay. But I had like happy memories, so I was like, oh,

825
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: try this and go here. Yeah, that was such a

826
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: fun gig. And this venue. I can't remember the name

827
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: of the venue. Do you guys remember the name of

828
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: the venue? Sarah just said Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion

829
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: in Guildford, New Hampshire. They have this crazy artist friendly

830
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: backstage area for those of you who haven't been there.

831
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: And they have like fire pits, they have ping pong table.

832
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: They have a swimming pool. That's right. Did you go swimming?

833
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Did not go? So after you left, I went swimming

834
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: with the crew. That was pretty fun. Was it cold? No,

835
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: it was heated. Oh my, come on, yeah, it was heated.

836
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: It was gorgeous playground and they had a playground if

837
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 1: you have kids. They had bikes and the food was

838
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: I still have my mug. They had oysters. It's crazy.

839
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 1: We don't always get fed like that backstae. No, it

840
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: was too much. It was actually too much. They had

841
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 1: like lobster. It was like too much and you couldn't

842
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: take it on the bus because it was weird seafood,

843
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: but it was delicious.

844
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 12: I've never had that experience before and or since. Yeah, Oh,

845
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 12: the bikes they had bikes. Could we could take the

846
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 12: bikes to the lake and then jump in the lake.

847
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was the best. Everybody, can we

848
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: do another gig there? Please? Can we just do a weak? No?

849
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 4: It was a camp.

850
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: That's a good place to start a tour and right,

851
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: definitely grown up camp. Yeah. It was so fun. And

852
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: you we met a few years ago. Yeah, we met

853
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: for men asks at a show, but we barely talked.

854
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: And then we met again. You came to Chicago and

855
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: that was so fun too, and it rained all day.

856
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 12: I remember getting the email that that you had asked

857
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 12: about tour and I was hiking. Oh cool, and I

858
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 12: was like, oh, I just you know, sometimes you get

859
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 12: a happy email.

860
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh good, that's great. I was so happy you wanted

861
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: to do it, of course, and you did this. Saw

862
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: my god, your show.

863
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 12: That band was incredible, so much fun to watch.

864
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: It was so much fun just all being together and

865
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: the fact that you knew Chris already. It was like,

866
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: it's cool Chris, good old Chris Morrissey. And you did

867
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 1: this song distance every night. Oh yeah, such a jam. Thanks,

868
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: it's fun. It was fun. Do you want to do it? No?

869
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 10: No?

870
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, the end, the end, it's done. Yeah. So

871
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: you guys would do this song distance and it was

872
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: it was a jam every night. You can do it.

873
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 12: It's a it's a it's an ode to New York

874
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 12: City living in tiny apartments.

875
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: I could tell. I figured you could. Yeah, I know

876
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 1: what this song is about. I'm pretty sure I've been there. Okay.

877
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: I when I hear the song, all I can see

878
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: is you dancing? Oh did I dance on this one?

879
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: I feel like you did? I mean, did you dance

880
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 1: on every jam?

881
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 13: I do?

882
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: I can't help myself. Wait, so are you Is your

883
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: brother a dancer? Yes? Okay, he's a tap dancer. It's

884
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: an amazing it's so fun. Thanks for noticing that I

885
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: stalked you on Oh cute? Did you grow up dancing too? No?

886
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 12: I tried tap dancing. Well, my parents put us in classes,

887
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 12: but we did like Afro Caribbean, and we did like

888
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 12: you know, but I never thought of myself as a dancer.

889
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 12: I started playing guitar and singing, and I was really

890
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 12: shy to move, to move around and then scary.

891
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, it is because that I'm not really that

892
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm not as good guitar as I'd like to be,

893
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: And I think what liberated me.

894
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 12: I don't There must have been a moment or a

895
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 12: tour or something where I was like, Okay, I'm gonna

896
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 12: step out and do and dance.

897
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: But I just just enjoy to stepping I really, but

898
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: then I went too far.

899
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 12: Now I look back at clips, I'm like, oh god,

900
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 12: she's like I feel, and that's not cute. So I'm

901
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 12: trying to find an now the sweet spot. I still

902
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 12: haven't reached it, but yeah, I'm trying to find the

903
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 12: sweet spot. I think you're dancing is infectious. When you

904
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 12: perform things, it looks pretty natural as well.

905
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I mean the fact that you say you're

906
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: like shy about it is surprising to me.

907
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 12: It's like I'm forcing myself to do to do things

908
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 12: that are uncomfortable.

909
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 1: That is, it's a good thing to do. And also

910
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like that at all, thank you. Yeah,

911
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm the worst. I'll stand up there and I'll like

912
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: start going backwards into the darkness of the back of

913
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: the STA dance. No, come on, I dance like, yeah,

914
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: like a weirdo. I think my kids have my style

915
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: of dancing, like like a Lane from Seinfeld and she

916
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: dances kind of like that where you're so happy to

917
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: be doing it.

918
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is the weird thing.

919
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: It's crazy stuff like that. That's more fun though than

920
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: trying to dance cool. I feel like if I was

921
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: dancing with my friends who don't give a crap, I

922
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: can be silly and do like I like to inject

923
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,800
Speaker 1: some humor in my dance. Good, But if it was

924
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: for real an audience, I don't think I can do

925
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: it well.

926
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 12: I really like I want to give them I want

927
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 12: them to be allowed to dance. So I was like,

928
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 12: as soon as I start moving, they feel more comfortable moving.

929
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: That's fun. Well, it's fun when an audience dances. How

930
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 1: did my audience do dancing?

931
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 12: They were good, they really well. They were very polite.

932
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: But did they dance? That's what I want to know,

933
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: because I did not see them dancing. They were moving

934
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: in the back.

935
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 12: When people stand up, they yeah, I mean it's hard

936
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 12: to dance when he's sitting down.

937
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: It is hard. I have a great audience and they

938
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: are really kind. Usually were very but they.

939
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 12: Were danced, they were danced, they were so old they

940
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 12: were in trance. They were dance instead of danced with

941
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 12: your dance and tranced. The other thing is you can

942
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 12: trip and fall, you know, so there's like a hazard

943
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 12: dancing headset.

944
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 1: Mic. Yeah, exactly, all right, M.

945
00:53:46,960 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I love time to get up.

946
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 4: I think you've been slipping till long.

947
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: By.

948
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 18: They started when you were still to see when it's

949
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 18: too folks trying to get along, but it's hard to

950
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 18: leave you.

951
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 6: Ooh oh, love is always better when we did time.

952
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 4: You'll get back to.

953
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: When we.

954
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Born.

955
00:54:52,880 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 13: Distance makes the hard even when only happened on that's

956
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 13: your love.

957
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 4: Is never f well we are.

958
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 6: Distance makes the heart, It makes the leaves on the trees, four.

959
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: Makes the hours in the day.

960
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 6: Makes me want to cumb my head out a little

961
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 6: cave rather the worst to s.

962
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 4: And I know that I'm still free be anywhere that

963
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 4: I want to be.

964
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 13: Maybe get your rest up, bless something really pretty legen

965
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 13: never seen.

966
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 4: Oh, love is always better.

967
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 6: I would take time and you'll get back to.

968
00:55:54,680 --> 00:56:00,320
Speaker 4: Well we are. Distance makes it's.

969
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 6: The heart, even when only having known that your.

970
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 4: Love is never well we.

971
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: Bar.

972
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 4: Distance makes the heart heart hard heart, hot hat hot

973
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 4: hot hot hot.

974
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 7: When you love, it makes a heart.

975
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 6: When you trust and makes the heart.

976
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: And when you go, it makes.

977
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 15: When we're alone, when we were pot in the meet,

978
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 15: do love a fight or away to make it right?

979
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 4: Where we go?

980
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 16: We never fall in the light or in the dark

981
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 16: on a plane a bill starts.

982
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 9: In only or have a bar a horn along.

983
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 4: Or raty to hard and think of me.

984
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 6: I want to love you.

985
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 14: I don't want to child to change the pace to

986
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 14: your life. We get together, we make it good, and

987
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 14: we get together.

988
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Love.

989
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 18: Time to care about the you've been sleeping too long?

990
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 18: Started on you still?

991
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:22,919
Speaker 10: He Yes, that was fun, Yes, yes, you is that good?

992
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. I'm sorry to look at you more.

993
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to like the same.

994
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

995
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to not miss my my lyric. Okay.

996
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: I was very like, it's this can be a challenging

997
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: song to sing.

998
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 10: So I was like, yeah, you.

999
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: Weren't looking at me or you. I was wondering why

1000
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking at you, know, I was singing. I

1001
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: hope I'm not that she doesn't mind that I'm not

1002
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: looking at No. I was like in my notes, don't

1003
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: miss that line. That's felt really good to me. Yeah,

1004
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 1: that's all good, Okay, good good, Yes, thanks. Oh that's funny.

1005
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to dance, but you know I'm sitting.

1006
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 12: I wasn't dancing as much with that whole day dance

1007
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 12: intro was like being very still.

1008
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: You didn't dance at all. I can't believe you didn't dance.

1009
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 12: I know.

1010
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: Well, this has been so fun. Well, thanks for letting

1011
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:12,439
Speaker 1: me play piano and that. I do love your guitar

1012
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: playing though, And when did you start When did you

1013
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: start playing guitar?

1014
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 12: When I was fifteen or sixteen? Steve Bloom okay, my

1015
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 12: amazing guitar teacher.

1016
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: That's so cool. He'd come over and he taught me

1017
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: like red actually Peppers because that's who I loved at

1018
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: the time. We should have done I love thee oh

1019
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: my god, road tripping. I think that was one of

1020
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: the first. Yeah, it's funny. You never know what people

1021
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: where people come from, you know, with what they grew

1022
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: up loving. It can be surprising, it can be surprising. Yeah.

1023
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 12: I had a huge crush on Anthony Ketus.

1024
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: Oh he was cute. Yeah that long yeah, no shirt.

1025
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 4: The no shirt.

1026
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the bad acting and point Point. What was it

1027
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: called point point break?

1028
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 4: Was he in point?

1029
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: I just had this last moment I can't stop thinking about.

1030
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: I need to go back and watch Point Break? Was

1031
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: your dream? You had a dream? I dreamed that I

1032
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: was I was not home. I was I was gone

1033
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: doing some shows. And I had the funniest dream that

1034
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: I went to some barbecue but it was at my

1035
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: house and Kanu Reeves was there and he was helping

1036
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: everybody set up, but he didn't talk to me at all,

1037
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's kind of weird. Maybe I

1038
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: should he's helping everybody because he's supposed to be like

1039
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: the super nice person, right, it sounds like something he

1040
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: would do. Yeah, exactly like Ala is reading about how

1041
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: he's the Internet. He's always helping an old lady, and

1042
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 1: so he was like helping everybody set up, and I

1043
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: was like, man, he's not talking to me and he's

1044
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: not helping me in But I was kind of not

1045
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 1: doing anything either. So I was like, you know what,

1046
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to go see if I can reach this

1047
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: base on the very top shelf. And it was a

1048
01:00:56,280 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: total manipulative move to see if oh wow me and

1049
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: he did, and he came over and he helped me.

1050
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: Was like, I was wondering when the mom was gonna

1051
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 1: start getting ready for the barbecue. Then he mom shamed me. No,

1052
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: he didn't say mom. He did because because I was

1053
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 1: out of town and so I felt bad for being

1054
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: away from my kids. I think is my psychology. It's

1055
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: kind of a funny jobs interesting point break it maybe

1056
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: like I was like, I'm having a real Keanu moment.

1057
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: That's an interesting dream. Also, he's kind of he's promoting

1058
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 1: a movie, so he's everywhere.

1059
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 12: I think right now he's everywhere else. Is that how

1060
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 12: the dream ended?

1061
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: I woke up crying? Oh no, is that mean shame

1062
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: had a week? I guess, yeah, Like it's one of

1063
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: those you start crying in the dreams and then you

1064
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: wake up cry and right what happened to the all?

1065
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 1: Where did that come from? Come from?

1066
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 12: And you were laying next to Keanu, which is so well, yeah,

1067
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 12: that's the punch line.

1068
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: No, he was there, he was helping. No, he wasn't there,

1069
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: but ohow, big dreams are funny dreams. If any Encounteries

1070
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: was also my childhood favorite, you.

1071
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 12: Know, oh yeah, yeah, he's a great He's the fact

1072
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 12: that he rejected a great movie star.

1073
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw him on the street once you did.

1074
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 12: I saw him, Yeah, and I was walking with my

1075
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 12: boyfriend at the time, and we both did a double

1076
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 12: take and then we looked at each other.

1077
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: And we're like, that is the most beautiful person. Did

1078
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: you know with him?

1079
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 4: Yes?

1080
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: Okay, because sometimes you see people and you just think, wow,

1081
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 1: they're beautiful and you don't even realize Oh, that's true too. Yeah,

1082
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: it was like he's he can't get away with being in.

1083
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,959
Speaker 12: The public right with Yeah, it must be hard for people.

1084
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1085
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1086
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: I think he would have been nicer in real life

1087
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: to me, Well, he did help you with the jar?

1088
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: He did?

1089
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 3: Did he?

1090
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: Mom shamed me? I don't know. Back to your record

1091
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: to record.

1092
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 10: So.

1093
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Speaker 12: Yeah, that's how I started playing. And I just really

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01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 12: wanted to play enough to write songs because I knew

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Speaker 12: I could kind of improvise and so, and I wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Sit at a campfire and play what. Yeah, did you

1097
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: go to a lot of campfires growing up in the city.

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: It's like this romantic idea of going to campfires exactly right,

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01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: that's pretty funny.

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Speaker 12: That's why I live in the country now. Because I

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01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 12: was like, oh, country.

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Speaker 1: Is exotic, that's the coolest thing, and board staring at

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01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 1: the squirrels. Yeah, it has its moments. That's funny. Well,

1104
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: you probably go to the city a lot. I do,

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01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: and I think it.

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Speaker 12: Works out that way, and that's good. There's a lot

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 12: of nice folks up here.

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Speaker 1: Let's do one more song from your new album. Yeah. Yeah,

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01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna go on tour. I'm going on tour. When

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01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: is the tour? It starts May fifth, or maybe possibly

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01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: the fourth. That is exciting. And you're gonna have your bus.

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Speaker 12: And I have a bus and a bus full of

1113
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 12: dudes and me, it would be.

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Speaker 1: A lot of wiping on the seat. They have to

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01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: tell them they have to sit pee at night if

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01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 1: the bus is moving. Oh that's a good idea. Are

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01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: guys against that? I guess you'll find out. I'm going

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01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: to find out. I'm sure. I'm sure they'll do whatever

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01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 1: they're going to do in there and not listen. I

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01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: not let you tell them.

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Speaker 12: The last time I did a bus, I just always

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01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 12: had the clorox and I was always cleaning because I'm

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01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 12: clean's super clean. Oh gosh, But so that's what I'm anticipating,

1124
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 12: but I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like as you get older, guys are

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01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: a little more aware of that, aren't they. Yeah, I

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01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 1: think so. Are they a bunch of college guys? No,

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Speaker 1: I'm touring with teenagers?

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,440
Speaker 1: No, they'll tour for cheap the young people. How big

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01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 1: is the band though?

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01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,480
Speaker 12: The ban is probably six people total.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that's awesome.

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01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: And then we have a tour manager and a lighting

1136
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 12: person and it's very very ye come on, I think

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01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 12: a compact tour is really nice, like your tour.

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01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was compact. I really love that.

1139
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 1: I try to keep it small. Yeah.

1140
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 12: And then I just loved there wasn't a lot of

1141
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 12: like electronics, and you don't play the tracks and you're

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01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 12: not doing you know that.

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm inspired by that. I wouldn't know how. Yeah, I

1144
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: don't either. I don't either, So Fie, do you do

1145
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: what you want? It's nice when everyone sings. That's what

1146
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get it is. I think harmonies are

1147
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 1: so key for both of our mastics, definitely, and it's

1148
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: just so fun to sing with people. It's so much

1149
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: fun to sing with people. Harmony rehearsals are tricky though

1150
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: you gotta really yeah, you do well, that's awesome. Thanks

1151
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: for doing this with me, my pleasure together me too.

1152
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: It's so fun. Let's do this song from your new

1153
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: album and take us out. That sounds good. What's this

1154
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: one called? This one's called false start? Okay? Cool?

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 4: All right? Yeah, m hmmm.

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01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 6: I get lost in when I do run on Betty, you.

1157
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 13: Tell myself another truth and fall back quess you.

1158
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 4: But leaves don't never know a way the fall and

1159
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 4: I've been sitting away for the.

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01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 19: I guess don't when I had to a run on Betsy,

1161
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 19: play myself.

1162
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 6: Another tube and fall bag was seen.

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01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 13: God endings never tell you where to start. You're just

1164
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 13: so many times it for the part, and I've been

1165
01:07:44,520 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 13: sitting waterway. It's a false start, almost a Muty new

1166
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 13: Hart starting making plans.

1167
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 4: Couldn't take the pain, had go back to it came

1168
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 4: all start, couldn't Letty.

1169
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 17: New Hard.

1170
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 4: Was the last. No, couldn'take the pain, had.

1171
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 10: Back to.

1172
01:08:44,760 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 4: Key And then he's never tell you where to start.

1173
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 18: We're just so many times and for the pot, and

1174
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 18: I've been sitting wanting away.

1175
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 4: It's a full stop.

1176
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 20: Almost some archets new had starting making plants, couldn't take.

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01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: Them, Pain had.

1178
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 4: Back came fall Start.

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 16: Couldn't lecle new Hart was the last to know, couldn't

1180
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 16: take them, Pain had back to acking.

1181
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, ah, that was so fun.

1182
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 4: Comes back, George to come Back.

1183
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: I love that song.

1184
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: I love her songs.

1185
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1186
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 3: So that's such an honesty to her lyrics and the

1187
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: way she performs that. It really makes it so powerful.

1188
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: Her singing is very special. Yeah. Yeah, she's a jim

1189
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: We love you, Emily, and.

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01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,920
Speaker 3: She's an incredible performer. So go see her live if

1191
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 3: you get the chance. It's true she is, you'll be

1192
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 3: glad you did.

1193
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: Yes, she's amazing. Ellie.

1194
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 3: Thanks for being part of our show and sharing all

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01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 3: your gorgeous songs with us.

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01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everyone. Tune in next time for another

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,479
Speaker 1: special guest. Meanwhile, if you want to know what songs

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01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: were on this episode, the first song is called Georgia

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: from Emily King The seven EP. The second song is

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01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 1: called Bad Memory from her new album Special Occasion. Third

1201
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: song we did a little snippet if it never entered

1202
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: My mind, the old jazz standard. The fourth song we

1203
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: did was called Distance, and it's from an album called

1204
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: The Switch and the last song was from her new

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01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: album Special Occasion, and it's called False Start. Thanks again

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Speaker 1: for listening. This episode was recorded and mixed by Jamie Landry,

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Speaker 1: edited by Sarah Oda, additional engineering by Matthew Vasquez and

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Speaker 1: Steven Sacho. Artwork by Eliza fryehtography by Shervin Leniez. Produced

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Speaker 1: by US.

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