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Speaker 1: the NBA lead in Cleveland Cavaliers, who won their fourteenth
Speaker 1: consecutive game on the road tonight. They beat the Milwaukee
Speaker 1: Bucks one twelve to one hundred. The cav just became
Speaker 1: the second team to win fourteenth straight games while scoring
Speaker 1: at least one hundred and ten points in each of
Speaker 1: those games. The only time that's ever happened. Nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics won the title. Max Struce had seventeen
Speaker 1: points to lead a ballot scoring attack. They had their
Speaker 1: five starters were in double figures. Excuse me, they got
Speaker 1: thirty eight points from their bench, nine of their nineteen
Speaker 1: May threes from their bench, and they pull away late
Speaker 1: and they defeat the Milwaukee Bucks one twelve to one hundred,
Speaker 1: And it just goes to show you just how good
Speaker 1: this team is. Because we know Donovan Michigan can go off.
Speaker 1: We've seen him score seventy, we've seen him have fifty.
Speaker 1: But when you have a team Evid Mowley, Jared Allen,
Speaker 1: Daris Garland, Struce, you got Tid Jerome, one hundred Merrill,
Speaker 1: they really have a really deep team. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a look. I still believe it's gonna come down
Speaker 1: to them at the Boston Celtics. The Boston Celtics, they
Speaker 1: beat the Lakers last night. They look really good because
Speaker 1: you have a guy in Jason Tatum who's going to
Speaker 1: be first team All the NBA again this year. You
Speaker 1: have JB Jalen Brown who's going to be probably second
Speaker 1: or third team All NBA this year.
Speaker 2: Dal Horford played really good last night.
Speaker 1: You got guys that can make shots, Derrick White, you
Speaker 1: got really good premimeter defenders and Holliday and Derrick White,
Speaker 1: and then you got a bitch man, Peyton Pritchard is
Speaker 1: unbelievable off the bench. He should be in the runner
Speaker 1: for sixth Man of the Year. But tonight was all
Speaker 1: about the Cavaliers. They moved to a record of fifty
Speaker 1: four and ten. The Bucks dropped the thirty six and
Speaker 1: twenty seven.
Speaker 2: The Calves. Oh Joe, what do you like about the Cavs?
Speaker 4: I mean, listen what they can do in their totality
Speaker 4: as a team. You just said it. I thought, obviously,
Speaker 4: when it's coming into the season, who would be the
Speaker 4: biggest play for the Celtics coming off an NBA championship?
Speaker 4: To me, I thought it would be the Bucks, I thought,
Speaker 4: he said, Dame and Giannis and that combination of what
Speaker 4: they had, similar to how Luke and Lebron. I mean
Speaker 4: Luke and Lebron teamed up. But before Luke even got there,
Speaker 4: I say, you know what the biggest threat for the
Speaker 4: Celtics would be would be the buff But watching the
Speaker 4: way the Cavs play as a team, you know, obviously
Speaker 4: led by by Garland and Donovan Mitchell, the supporting cast,
Speaker 4: the bench, everyone is scoring. Look how many Look how
Speaker 4: many players were in double figures at night? When you
Speaker 4: have all five started, Yeah, all five started. When everybody's
Speaker 4: playing that complete and nobody is off. It makes it
Speaker 4: that much much, that much more difficult for them to
Speaker 4: be beat. And I wouldn't be surprised. Hell, a lot
Speaker 4: of people shouldn't be surprised, but I mean most people
Speaker 4: will call me a casual.
Speaker 5: You know, those are the actual NBA fans.
Speaker 4: Won't be surprised if they do unseat the Celtics as
Speaker 4: the NBA champions this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to I think it'll be
Speaker 1: a deep series that's going six or at least seven.
Speaker 1: I thought the Knicks would be there also because the
Speaker 1: addition of Karl Anthony Towns. I like that addition better
Speaker 1: with the Knicks more so than I like than I
Speaker 1: like Julius Randall.
Speaker 5: What's up time out the Knicks? You really put them
Speaker 5: in in that running.
Speaker 2: No, I said.
Speaker 1: I thought coming into the season with the addition of
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns with Jaylen Brunce, to look at what
Speaker 1: they did last year.
Speaker 5: They're only two headed months agough.
Speaker 4: I we talk about scoring scorer that's able to actually
Speaker 4: score and put the ball on the floor and just
Speaker 4: score at will.
Speaker 5: It's only Jayleen Brumpton and in Condy.
Speaker 2: But look look at what they got.
Speaker 1: They got Alonobe, they got Michael Bridges, they got Josh Hart.
Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson hurt, you know him going out because now
Speaker 1: you're you know, casts playing spending a lot of time
Speaker 1: at the five, and he probably he likes playing at
Speaker 1: the four. So if you had Mitchell Robinson and Cat
Speaker 1: sometimes and they got Princess Precious secure, uh.
Speaker 2: They got they got a deep team. They do.
Speaker 1: And I thought, considering they're gonna be healthy because you
Speaker 1: got a guy in Cat that can dominate. Jaylen Brunson,
Speaker 1: we know he can dominate, Bridges can give you quality
Speaker 1: points and Mixed he's Uh, they got great defense. Boji
Speaker 1: can defend, Josh Hart can defend Michael Bridges. He doesn't
Speaker 1: miss games. He can defend.
Speaker 2: So they had it all.
Speaker 1: I thought Cleveland would be there, but I didn't see
Speaker 1: fifty four and ten.
Speaker 2: Now did I think there will be a top three team? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: You probably thought Philly would be there also with Joellen
Speaker 1: b Paul George t Easpaxy. You probably thought those guys
Speaker 1: would be there, but injuries you maybe fi Mi, but
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, you know, he got nicked and then he
Speaker 1: was unhappy and they moved him. So right now, looking
Speaker 1: at the east its head, it's a two headed monster.
Speaker 1: It's the Cavaliers and the Celtics. It looks like the
Speaker 1: Cavs are gonna have home court, but Boston have one
Speaker 1: of the better road records in the NBA, so it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. Do I believe the Cavaliers can
Speaker 1: have this kind of battle score and win. Now, somebody,
Speaker 1: one of those two guys, Garland or Mitchell is gonna
Speaker 1: probably need to be twenty five thirty and then everybody
Speaker 1: else chip in. But I don't think because with JB
Speaker 1: and JT teaming up for last night, they went for
Speaker 1: seventy and probably on average they're gonna go for anywhere
Speaker 1: between fifty and sixty on a given night. The probably
Speaker 1: need a little bit more from your big guns. But
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers look really good. And when you have a
Speaker 1: balanced team and your bench comes in, they give you
Speaker 1: thirty eight points on the road, they give you nine
Speaker 1: of the nineteen threes that you made on the road.
Speaker 1: And they got shoot. They got great outside. Wade was
Speaker 1: three or three from the three point line. Hunter did
Speaker 1: not shoot the ball particularly well last night, but he's
Speaker 1: in the running for sixth Man of the Year tied.
Speaker 1: Jerome can shoot it, Marrill can shoot it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough FOUTO Joe. They're gonna be a tough out.
Speaker 1: But the Celtics, man, they deep. They come in with
Speaker 1: that second unit and they they picked right up. It's
Speaker 1: kind of reminds you of like what the calv Nuts,
Speaker 1: excuse me, what the Warriors used to be. Remember they
Speaker 1: bring their second uniton in with Livingston and all those guys,
Speaker 1: and if it was like a three to four point
Speaker 1: lead with a time Clay and Steph and Draymond came back,
Speaker 1: it was a ten or eleven point lead, or if
Speaker 1: they were behind they came back, the game was tied.
Speaker 1: So I see a lot of this from the from
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers. Also, I like their bench. I like their
Speaker 1: up Uh, their starters are really good. Evid Molders a
Speaker 1: defender who's gotten better offensive. And you know what Jared
Speaker 1: you're gonna get from Jared Allen. You don't have to
Speaker 1: run plays for him. And he could rebound, he could
Speaker 1: score the basketball a lot of lives. You go get
Speaker 1: a lot of his points off the glass, rebounding, rolling
Speaker 1: to the Rim, but it's gonna be led by that
Speaker 1: three headed monster, Garland, Mitchell and Bodley, and if they
Speaker 1: keep playing the way they playing, I like them. I
Speaker 1: think I still believe it's gonna come down to them
Speaker 1: and the Celtics and the Eastern Conference finals.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, it's gonna be a good matchup.
Speaker 5: It's good. That's probably what's gonna come down to.
Speaker 4: It ain't probably, That's probably what it's going to come
Speaker 4: down to, long as there are no injuries, which I
Speaker 4: doubt that's gonna happen with it not that much time,
Speaker 4: but it must not that much season left into the
Speaker 4: regular season. So listen, I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for the Calves. Bro I'm excited for the Calves,
Speaker 4: especially what they've been through, especially once Lebron left and
Speaker 4: and how how far they had to come to get
Speaker 4: to this point where they are now without even without
Speaker 4: King James there.
Speaker 1: They legit have a shot. Then it just what happened.
Speaker 1: It was a situation where where Donald Mitchell wasn't happy
Speaker 1: and he has to be traded. That was the only
Speaker 1: way you gotta get a superstar. Yeah, superstar leaves you
Speaker 1: have to replace him. Yeah, but that's that's not only
Speaker 1: that's not the only answer. Not only do you have
Speaker 1: to have a superstar, but you have to have that
Speaker 1: supporting cast.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, Batman, and you ain't gonna have no success
Speaker 4: unless you got your Robin.
Speaker 1: But here's what happened. Think about it. They they Lebron
Speaker 1: leaves and that means you lose. And now you're drafting high.
Speaker 1: You're getting a Darius Garland, You're getting to Evan Mobley,
Speaker 1: you getting guys like that. You make a trade for
Speaker 1: Jared Allen. Yeah, now see now, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like hey man, I kind of like it over there,
Speaker 1: Donald Mitchell said, and boom. So now you got Garland,
Speaker 1: a draft pick, you got Avin Mobley was a top
Speaker 1: five pick. You got a Jared Allen who can rebound
Speaker 1: and defend the paint. You don't have to roll plate
Speaker 1: run plays for him, and he can get your double double.
Speaker 1: And you got a bona fide super starting Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 1: who's an All NBA, a perennial All Star. Now you
Speaker 1: got your team. Now let's build it out. Now, let's
Speaker 1: get us some depth. We make the trade for DeAndre Hunter.
Speaker 1: We get you know, we got tied Jerome and we
Speaker 1: got you moved strousontil the start off be good.
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes you have to have a little luck.
Speaker 2: You have to have a little lucky.
Speaker 1: You get lucky, you got draft compensation on Joe that
Speaker 1: you can shift some of the pizza pieces out because
Speaker 1: you gave up Colin Sexton, who is a high draft pick.
Speaker 1: You give him up, you gave him an other couple
Speaker 1: of draft picks, and you get Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 5: I like what you just said.
Speaker 4: The keyword you just said there obviously drafting right, but
Speaker 4: also luck as well, because you already had high draft picks.
Speaker 4: You had picks that came in that were high draft
Speaker 4: picks that you had to let go, and you got
Speaker 4: the others.
Speaker 5: They were able to feel those spots and fill those voids.
Speaker 4: But the team they have now, they've and the players
Speaker 4: they've acquired all played well collectively. And I think that's
Speaker 4: the hard thing to do because you look at some
Speaker 4: of the big some of the Top three, I call
Speaker 4: them the Big three. Some of the Big three face
Speaker 4: is that we thought would be in the playoffs or
Speaker 4: playing well. I love Paul, George, Max Max. Indeed, even
Speaker 4: just those three together. Forget the injuries part. They still don't.
Speaker 4: They still haven't lived up to what we thought they
Speaker 4: would be.
Speaker 1: Well that that's because Joel and Bid I mean started
Speaker 1: the season banged up. Paul George started the season banged up,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been able to find his rhythm. Tyree's
Speaker 1: Max is playing extremely well. He's averaging twenty five, twenty six,
Speaker 1: maybe even twenty seven points a game. So he's doing
Speaker 1: what you thought he would do and what you would
Speaker 1: hope he would do. It was you missing Joel and
Speaker 1: Bid somewhere between twenty eight and thirty two points. You
Speaker 1: missing Paul George somewhere between nineteen and twenty two points,
Speaker 1: So you factor that in. Now you're getting eighty points. Now,
Speaker 1: can we get the bitch to give us thirty five?
Speaker 2: A leeve?
Speaker 1: Man? So when in a situation like that, I mean,
Speaker 1: probably something we put the show foreseen, considering Joel and
Speaker 1: bed lift out of the lymphed out of the season,
Speaker 1: and as soon as the season was over two months later,
Speaker 1: he's going to be Olympic team. The US national men's
Speaker 1: team didn't take the rest, didn't get what we get.
Speaker 1: He didn't get fixed. Probably what he needed to get fixed.
Speaker 1: So guess what he limped into the season and guess
Speaker 1: what he's doing now, O Joe limping out of the season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he asked a question.
Speaker 4: Yes, be honest, be honest, even if you had the injury,
Speaker 4: if you and joeln b with an opportunity to represent
Speaker 4: your country at the Olympics, knowing that it comes around
Speaker 4: every every four years, what would you have.
Speaker 1: Done if my obligations to the seventy six ers seventy
Speaker 1: six has got five years, a two hundred and forty
Speaker 1: million dollars on the table, how much you make? I
Speaker 1: get it, and I get it because the America he's
Speaker 1: from Cameroon in America has given him everything and more
Speaker 1: he could have asked for now a lot of that
Speaker 1: haster luck. He came here, just the land of opportunity.
Speaker 1: Jolan Beiid had a talent. God blessed him. He at
Speaker 1: the genetic lottery. He's something but tall, he's extremely skilled
Speaker 1: and boove. He parlayed that. But O Choe, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: your obligation Philly, Yes, it made you gave you generational wealth.
Speaker 1: Not to the United States national men's team, not that,
Speaker 1: and the gold medal. Don't get me wrong. You're representing
Speaker 1: your country, right, But bro, you were injured, you lift
Speaker 1: out of the season right, healthy, right, and then say
Speaker 1: you know what a twenty eight boom your boy here?
Speaker 1: M hm, Noah, I know absolutely not. I need I
Speaker 1: for me, oh the most important thing. That's why a
Speaker 1: lot of times, man, when I was in a contract year, Man,
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to go to no Pro Bowl. I
Speaker 1: ain't trying to get up out there, O Joe, just
Speaker 1: right to get that. Yeah, they please, right right right,
Speaker 1: like I said, I get Look, maybe it was the
Speaker 1: Swan song.
Speaker 2: Wanted to get opportunity because Lebron is not going to
Speaker 2: be there in twenty eight. Step probably not going to
Speaker 2: be there in twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Katie saying, look, if I'm still hooping to the level
Speaker 1: and I'm able, Hey, I like to play twenty and
Speaker 1: I like to go for five gold medals, he asked,
Speaker 1: the most he has four, and but Kate says, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would like to go. I would like to try to,
Speaker 1: you know, run it back on home soil. And maybe
Speaker 1: Jordan that was something joy. But for me, I'm always
Speaker 1: gonna I'm always gonna be in a situation where I
Speaker 1: look at who's paying me. That's where my obligation lies,
Speaker 1: is that who's paying me. So that's just me. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, he did what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do. He did was in the best interest of them.
Speaker 1: And I look, they was looking at France and Winby
Speaker 1: and that was Soulet and you got Yannis and you
Speaker 1: got Yoke, So you knew probably you're gonna run in,
Speaker 1: You're gonna run into those guys, and you needed somebody
Speaker 1: to deal with Yoke. You needed somebody that to be
Speaker 1: able to, you know, to handle the bigs and for
Speaker 1: other countries. Even though he would I get all that,
Speaker 1: I honestly do, I really do. I don't want people
Speaker 1: to think I'm not empathetic and understanding. But a team
Speaker 1: invested five years at two hundred and forty million. They
Speaker 1: just gave him a three year oh shoe, they gave
Speaker 1: him a three year extension for one hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: three million dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I understand.
Speaker 4: But you know, honestly, if you ask, if you ask
Speaker 4: people especially that would be in his position, is what
Speaker 4: they would do.
Speaker 2: If you ask one.
Speaker 4: Hundred people, you get a hundred different answers on That's
Speaker 4: that's why I was curious to what you would say,
Speaker 4: and I'm curious to the chat. I mean, obviously putting
Speaker 4: yourself in his shoes in his situation, with the opportunity
Speaker 4: to represent you know, obviously the USA. It's just everybody's
Speaker 4: answer would be different. But I understand you know where
Speaker 4: you're coming from.
Speaker 2: You know what I think it is.
Speaker 1: Oho is my mentality that I play football, that my
Speaker 1: money isn't guaranteed. See he did that because he knows
Speaker 1: his money is guaranteed, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: It changes that everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's kind of like a salary worker.
Speaker 1: They take PTO. Well, if you're not a salary worker
Speaker 1: and you only get paid if you show your black
Speaker 1: ass up to work, that changes thing. Trust me, I
Speaker 1: had manual jobs that I only got paid if I
Speaker 1: showed up to work. It's a whole different ball game.
Speaker 1: If you salaried. And you know what I'm saying, A
Speaker 1: when you salary, you know in a situation where you salary, Hell,
Speaker 1: I take CTO choice time off. I'm choosing not to
Speaker 1: come in today because I will getting my check. Well,
Speaker 1: when you work at manual jobs or you work in
Speaker 1: an hourly job, right, NBA, that's guaranteed money. MLB that's
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. NHL that's guaranteed money. NFL that's not guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's what's clouding my judgment, O Joe. Now,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I think a gold medal is
Speaker 1: very important. I mean, hey, representing your country and for
Speaker 1: maybe an event, maybe a week, maybe two weeks, we're one.
Speaker 2: It's us against them.
Speaker 1: I don't care if the if it's a if it's
Speaker 1: a European country, I don't care, if it's an African country,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: We're USA.
Speaker 1: We started this drive with the red, white and blue,
Speaker 1: and we'll get everybody else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, But.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think it's my I think it's
Speaker 1: my you know, be in the NFL, like man, I
Speaker 1: fee the mess about buddy, right right. Mark Cuban breaks
Speaker 1: the silence on the Luca trade. Let's take a listen
Speaker 1: to his comments on the Luca trade, Ojo.
Speaker 5: When was your son upset about the trade?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean were you yeah? Of course? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 5: And I've said this before.
Speaker 6: If you're you know, if the MAVs are going to
Speaker 6: trade Luca, that's one thing.
Speaker 2: Just get a better deal.
Speaker 6: You know, no, no disrespect to Anthony Davis, but you know,
Speaker 6: get three. If I still believe if we had gotten
Speaker 6: four unprotected number ones and Anthony Davis and Max Christy,
Speaker 6: this would be a different conversation.
Speaker 2: M hm they agreed more? Yeah, I agree?
Speaker 5: But what more can you do?
Speaker 2: Uh? What you do? Oh Joe? Think about this.
Speaker 1: The Timberwolves gave up four un protected picks and pick
Speaker 1: swaps for Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Rudy Gobert and Luka Doncic.
Speaker 5: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 4: In comparison to that, I think feel like they just
Speaker 4: wanted to get get even gone. That's why I don't
Speaker 4: understand based on what you getting on the court. How
Speaker 4: was whatever was going on off the court? That god
Speaker 4: damn that bad that bad beer hookah lazy? The way
Speaker 4: you interwack anti social What are we talking about here?
Speaker 4: You paid me to do one thing, be productive.
Speaker 2: You took me to.
Speaker 5: The to the NBA Championship last year?
Speaker 2: What's the conference finals last year? What are we talking about? Yeah? Man? Please?
Speaker 5: Right, right, baby, say right?
Speaker 1: I know what you call it by? Look do I think?
Speaker 1: Do I think? Mark Cuban is never making that trade.
Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Mark, Mark Cuban is never ever making that trade. He's
Speaker 1: made it abundantly clear. Uh, he had he had his
Speaker 1: replacement for Dirt. He had Dirt twenty seasons. He's gonna
Speaker 1: have Luca as long as he could happen. He wasn't
Speaker 1: get rid of me, And uh that's what Apple thought, Joe.
Speaker 1: When you sell your company and you keep the minority
Speaker 1: year where they do things, they don't need your input.
Speaker 2: Now, would you would you trade? Would you trade Luca? Baby? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, I gotta get him up out of there.
Speaker 1: The Lakers, Maverick Spurs, and he are expected to pursue
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in the off season. Oh, Joe, where do
Speaker 1: you want to see Kevin Durant Land?
Speaker 5: Wait, say those teams again?
Speaker 2: Lakers, Mavericks, Spurs, Heat. You know what Katie is on.
Speaker 5: I don't want to say backing in his career here
Speaker 5: because he mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Did that mean Jordan m h from the field. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You you you fainded in and out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I think me personally and d R Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you look at Oho, Uh, the heat, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think Kevin, they had a chance to go
Speaker 1: to the heat many years ago, he didn't go. Hearing
Speaker 1: the stories about taking cookies from Lebron, hearing stories about
Speaker 1: how he treated Jimmy, Kevin Durant don't strike me as
Speaker 1: a guy that want to be in that situation. So
Speaker 1: now the Spurs, I think it's a two horse race.
Speaker 1: I think it's the MAVs and the Lakers. And the
Speaker 1: question is what does the MAVs have to give up.
Speaker 1: They got that first round pick, they probably got their
Speaker 1: own first round pick. I'm trying to think about the
Speaker 1: other players because obviously you pair Kyrie, a D and
Speaker 1: kd oh you got something. You got, you got the
Speaker 1: potential to have something special. You got all three guys
Speaker 1: that can score. You got a D can protect the
Speaker 1: back end. You probably need another, probably another perimeter defender,
Speaker 1: because that's the problem that the Sons have. That's the
Speaker 1: that's the problem that the Brooklyn had. They had guys
Speaker 1: that can score, but who could stop somebody from score. Phoenix,
Speaker 1: they got guys that can score, who can stop somebody
Speaker 1: from score.
Speaker 5: So you don't like him to the Lakers in.
Speaker 2: I like you to the Lakers. I just don't know what.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Lakers have.
Speaker 1: Enough to satisfy the Sun considering what the Sons gave
Speaker 1: up to get him. They gave up their young nucleus
Speaker 1: to get him, so now they're gonna want those four
Speaker 1: first round picks unprotected pigs back. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. Uh h, Jordan, uh, I
Speaker 1: just don't. I just I don't see the heat because,
Speaker 1: like I said, he had an opportunity to go to
Speaker 1: the heat a long time ago and it didn't go.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the stories that's coming out of my
Speaker 1: past that's what Pact did. You don't understand, bro, people
Speaker 1: you people not gonna let you just man. First of all,
Speaker 1: they weren't your damn cookie. But I wish, I wish
Speaker 1: coach ym take something from me that I brought and
Speaker 1: talk about what.
Speaker 2: Please, I'm gone don't.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't know how they do it
Speaker 1: at most people job, but you know how we do.
Speaker 1: But you don't play with nobody for not nobody that
Speaker 1: look like us. Boy, I don't know where your I
Speaker 1: don't know where your hand's being and you ain't by
Speaker 1: a damn thing in that bag.
Speaker 5: What take somebody when they're kind of black folk.
Speaker 4: There's three things you don't play with black fold family,
Speaker 4: money in their kids, money, and their food.
Speaker 5: Actually their food. I mean I mean to say food, y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't play it by that, O Joe, don't don't
Speaker 1: do don't do that. Don't do that. M m nah man,
Speaker 1: don't do that. So, But like I said, I think
Speaker 1: it's the Lakers and the Mavericks. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, he wants obviously he wants to go
Speaker 1: to a contentite. Obviously the Lakers with Luka and Lebron
Speaker 1: the contenders. The MAVs if they get a D.
Speaker 2: Comes back here. Think Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Kyrie probably not come back to the beginning of the
Speaker 1: year twenty six, but we'll see how that goes. Spurs,
Speaker 1: you got Wemby, Uh, you got d Fox, Darren Fox,
Speaker 1: you got Stefan Castle, Uh, you got Vassal, you got
Speaker 1: Caldon Johnson. I mean, you got a nice, nice little
Speaker 1: cover there. But I don't see Kevin Durret. I don't
Speaker 1: see kd Ian. I don't see him in San Antonio,
Speaker 1: O Joe, I don't. So with that being said, Mavericks.
Speaker 1: I like the Mavericks. I like the Lakers, but hey,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, sons got to get
Speaker 1: the best package they can. They ain't they ain't fit
Speaker 1: to do no Luca. But the Lakers. The Lakers played
Speaker 1: extremely well.
Speaker 2: They played.
Speaker 1: They got off to a great start, then they had
Speaker 1: that lull in the second they had a little lulland
Speaker 1: third they got it close.
Speaker 2: Brunson had it going. And the thing is what makes him.
Speaker 1: He got that herky jerky style, and he's left handed
Speaker 1: and he's he's crafted that James Harden how to make
Speaker 1: you file him, make it look like you file him
Speaker 1: even if you didn't file him, because he'll flail his body.
Speaker 2: But he's tremendous getting to the basket. And he got
Speaker 2: that hands.
Speaker 1: He he got the step back, and so you got
Speaker 1: to honor that because you can shoot the three. He
Speaker 1: got the mid range, He can put the ball on
Speaker 1: the floor, get all the way to the rim. Even
Speaker 1: though he doesn't play above the rim, he can get
Speaker 1: to the rim and he can get you to file in.
Speaker 1: So he played really well. Cat struggle today. Cat did
Speaker 1: not have a good game. He rebounded the ball, but
Speaker 1: he didn't score well, og took up a lot of
Speaker 1: the slack for him. Og Ananova had had a really
Speaker 1: good game, especially shooting the three. Now he missed some
Speaker 1: late that he wished he had had, like could have
Speaker 1: saved some of those that he made earlier and saved
Speaker 1: eat for later. But it doesn't really work like that.
Speaker 1: But I think you really have to be impressed with
Speaker 1: the Lakers who saw this. Nobody saw this trade. It's
Speaker 1: the biggest trade in NBA history. No player Luka Donci's
Speaker 1: age has ever been traded that didn't want to be traded.
Speaker 1: Kareem wanted to leave, shot left on his own volition.
Speaker 1: You don't trade twenty five year old five times All
Speaker 1: NBA selections a team that he just led his team
Speaker 1: to the finals. He was in there, He was in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference finals just two years prior to that.
Speaker 1: Those guys don't get moved without them wanting to get moved.
Speaker 1: That would have been the equivalent you're trading a bird,
Speaker 1: You're trading a magic You're trading a Michael Jordan, because
Speaker 1: that's what Luke is. And then now he didn't have
Speaker 1: the championship, like like a bird in Magic had. Jordan
Speaker 1: didn't win until later in his career, Like, I think
Speaker 1: you're seven of what he went ninety one, so he
Speaker 1: came into eighty five. So seventy years seven year eight,
Speaker 1: Bird and Magic got him started right away.
Speaker 2: Magic won his rookie year, Bird won his second year.
Speaker 1: But you're talking about a guy that was a five
Speaker 1: time All NBA selection, a Rookie of the Year, of
Speaker 1: finished a couple of times in the top three in
Speaker 1: MVP votes, and that guy got moved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a story.
Speaker 1: If Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow got moved, you don't
Speaker 1: think we're gonna talk about that. O. Joe Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: gets moved, you don't think we're gonna talk about that.
Speaker 2: So Joe.
Speaker 4: Now you can get a better understanding and better context
Speaker 4: for those that are Dallas fans and why they on,
Speaker 4: why they so, why they're so pissed off at Nigo Havers.
Speaker 4: Not only that the trade happened, and you know those
Speaker 4: that you have in place, you trade for a d.
Speaker 5: You still got kypri Ervan is still a box office.
Speaker 4: So you're hoping, you know, ad can come in and
Speaker 4: kind of offset and counter you know, the trade by
Speaker 4: being productive and doing some of the things that Luke
Speaker 4: was doing. Obviously, maybe not to that extent because they're
Speaker 4: completely two different type of players in general. But he
Speaker 4: gets hurt. Yes, now Kyrie goes out. Well, hell, now
Speaker 4: everything's really basically down to dreams. So now you've done
Speaker 4: the trade and.
Speaker 5: You see what Luca's doing, How do you think you're feeling.
Speaker 5: How do you think they're feeling over there?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's terrible. I mean, it couldn't just all you
Speaker 1: remember we said we couldn't. It couldn't get any worse.
Speaker 1: Remember we talked about that the other night. That was
Speaker 1: before Kyrie. We know the extent of Kyrie. We saw
Speaker 1: him go out and we're like, well, damn, they make
Speaker 1: this trade. Everybody's upset. The guy the trade for him,
Speaker 1: he's playing great in twenty seven twenty eight minutes, he's
Speaker 1: got twenty six and thirteen, so he's unbelievable. He gets hurt.
Speaker 1: The guy that's supposed to keep them afloat until eighty returns.
Speaker 1: He gets hurt. And it's more serious than they previously
Speaker 1: thought because now he's gone for the season and he
Speaker 1: might not be back until after the new year in
Speaker 1: twenty six. So now you look at that and the
Speaker 1: Dallas fans are looking like, hold on, wait, aup minute,
Speaker 1: you traded.
Speaker 2: For a guy.
Speaker 1: Last year was really the only year that he's really
Speaker 1: I mean, this year is really the only year that
Speaker 1: he's been hurt. O Joe, y'all make it seem like
Speaker 1: the man been like been on Zion Williams schedule. He
Speaker 1: has not been on Zion Williamson's schedule. He hasn't missed
Speaker 1: two hundred games. He had missed three hundred games. Yes,
Speaker 1: he missed games this year, but I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: just imagine Michael Jordan broke his foot in year two
Speaker 1: and the Bulls like, you know what, we're gonna trade you.
Speaker 1: That's what the Nicks. That's exactly what the MAVs fans
Speaker 1: are saying. What you're saying, that's.
Speaker 2: Exactly right, right, exactly what their faces crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 4: I mean just when you think about it, when you
Speaker 4: think about it, oh, beer and hookah, Oh we feel
Speaker 4: you're lazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they call the man who could daunch it hohokuld luka.
Speaker 5: Are you seeing Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
Speaker 1: To night?
Speaker 2: You sawing us this buzz for you? Yeah, he's a look, bro,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about?
Speaker 1: He could score it all three Oh Joe, you watched
Speaker 1: him to night, he can score it all three levels.
Speaker 2: He he he.
Speaker 1: The difficult shots look routine. I mean he is as
Speaker 1: battish shot taker maker as we have. There are very
Speaker 1: few guys that can take like off balanced shots falling
Speaker 1: out of bounds off one leg and you like for
Speaker 1: most for most players, that's a bad shot. There's no
Speaker 1: bad shot for Luca, there's no bad shot for stuff
Speaker 1: because they make those shots look routine. And now he
Speaker 1: has somebody that he doesn't always have to facilitate because
Speaker 1: he can hand the ball off to Lebron, and Lebron
Speaker 1: can run the offense and go get his shot. Or
Speaker 1: if both of those guys get tired, they can pass
Speaker 1: the ball off to Austin Reeves. He can go facilitate,
Speaker 1: get everybody else involved, create his own shot. So they
Speaker 1: have three guys and they playing really good defense. They're
Speaker 1: doing a great job of swarming. They got really good
Speaker 1: perimeter players and Vanderbilt and Dorian Phinneys Smith gave. Vinson
Speaker 1: is a good on ball defender. He's a little undersized,
Speaker 1: but he's scrappy. But they got guys and don't connect
Speaker 1: knocking down shots. He's coming back. He's like, hey, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. Yeah, they wanted to move on.
Speaker 1: I felt some type of way, But now I'm back.
Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and make the boats and let
Speaker 1: them know I can be a valuable piece to this
Speaker 1: train and what we're trying to accomplish. So give JJ
Speaker 1: Riddick a ton of crack because I know a lot
Speaker 1: of people. Hey, I was one of those people like, damn,
Speaker 1: I know you could talk the game, but can.
Speaker 2: You coach it? Yeah? Yeah, and you need I mean
Speaker 2: you play, I mean.
Speaker 5: You never knew it coaches either, even though you play
Speaker 5: the game, that mean you can coach it. Even though
Speaker 5: you can write it, you can coach it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: Being able to get the players to obviously resonate with
Speaker 4: you and buy it is completely different.
Speaker 5: Than the latter. And he's done well.
Speaker 4: And matter of fact, if they were losing, Listen Lake
Speaker 4: were losing, if things were shaky, what's the first thing
Speaker 4: we're gonna say, blame him? And I can't what's coach?
Speaker 4: His name from from Yukon that didn't want to come?
Speaker 4: Yeah it was mister Yeah, yeah, Hurley Dan taking the job.
Speaker 4: You know he should that he's giving us a shot,
Speaker 4: giving us a chance. I don't even think he actually
Speaker 4: wanted to come. I think he was just using that
Speaker 4: for leverage, just to get him a contract after UK.
Speaker 4: But anyway, listen, Lakers playing really well.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm excited for him. They still need a big.
Speaker 4: They still need a big. If you wanted to Jenny
Speaker 4: Buss and then mister Plink got really serious about being
Speaker 4: in contention, especially going into next year, they got to
Speaker 4: give him a big. It's no different than Jerry getting
Speaker 4: number two receiver. If you're really serious, kitsch your number
Speaker 4: two receiver.
Speaker 2: Man, stop playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Chad, y'all need to stop tripping. Because if
Speaker 1: coaching didn't matter, why didn't Shack it? Why didn't Shack
Speaker 1: and Kobe win before Phil Jackson? If coach it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: If coaching doesn't matter, what about Steph and Clay and Dremond?
Speaker 1: Darvin Ham had a d and Lebron Frank Vogel won
Speaker 1: with him. He didn't win no championship. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to figure it. I mean, coach, you know it doesn't matter. Look,
Speaker 1: I can understand you might not like somebody, and maybe
Speaker 1: you think Darvinham got a fair trade, but man a
Speaker 1: raw deal. But if y'all don't think coaching matter, you're high.
Speaker 1: It absolutely matters. That's why they have coaches. If it
Speaker 1: didn't matter, then you send the team out there a
Speaker 1: You could save yourself somewhere between five and twenty.
Speaker 2: Million dollars if you don't need a coach. Man stop that.
Speaker 1: Give people. Give people the credit that they deserve. JJ Reddick,
Speaker 1: you might not lie, but give him credit. He's doing
Speaker 1: an unbelievable job with basically the same team. The number
Speaker 1: two seed in Lakers without Lebron James lose to the
Speaker 1: twenty two Nets. LA drops to forty and twenty three.
Speaker 1: Are now the third seed in the West. This is
Speaker 1: especially cost Lee lost considering their upcoming schedule is three
Speaker 1: back to backs in eight days. They're a half game
Speaker 1: behind the Denver Nuggets for two and a half game,
Speaker 1: had a Memphis for four. LA is in Milwaukee on Thursday.
Speaker 1: JJ said there's a low level communication game for the Lakers.
Speaker 1: He said that being shorthanded isn't an excuse. We just
Speaker 1: don't take We just don't. We just wanted to take shortcuts,
Speaker 1: just shortcuts. You want to be a good team, in
Speaker 1: the NBA, you want to win, you have to do
Speaker 1: the hard stuff.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 4: I mean Jay Jackson, mean when James says you have
Speaker 4: to do the hard stuff, what exactly is the hard
Speaker 4: stuff he's speaking of?
Speaker 5: Because when Lebron being.
Speaker 1: Out, everything you gotta rebound, you've got to box out,
Speaker 1: you got to get loose ball, you got to make
Speaker 1: the extra pass. You can't take a shortcut like, oh,
Speaker 1: this seems to be easy turning the ball Caro over.
Speaker 5: Okay, I understand, I understand that.
Speaker 4: But they've been playing well all season long, and well
Speaker 4: obviously when Luca got there, all of a sudden, Lebron
Speaker 4: is out.
Speaker 5: Now everything is magnified and they taking shortcuts.
Speaker 4: Well, they weren't just taking shortcuts two nights ago, or
Speaker 4: three nights ago or four nights ago before when it
Speaker 4: was winning.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, Luca did not shoot the ball well in
Speaker 1: eight of twenty six, three of ten, five turnovers. Austin
Speaker 1: Reeves didn't shoot the ball well three or fourteen, Alex
Speaker 1: linn he got great cardio in thirteen minutes, zero points.
Speaker 1: He would just saying he would do he he was
Speaker 1: just getting this cardio in. So you know, guys, normally
Speaker 1: after the game didn't a lot. They normally get on
Speaker 1: the bike to get their leg, get some cardio in
Speaker 1: Alex len God he is in. He just happen to
Speaker 1: play thirteen minutes and the ain't give you nothing new station.
Speaker 1: I mean, so now see what you just said right now.
Speaker 4: You you rattled all four players right that didn't that
Speaker 4: didn't play well, didn't shoot well.
Speaker 5: But JJ said it's about cutting corner is a hard work.
Speaker 4: How about you just I mean, as clear as they
Speaker 4: would really happen, it's clear as they But I'm assuming
Speaker 4: as a coach you really can't say that.
Speaker 5: You can't be.
Speaker 2: Honest sometimes, o Jo.
Speaker 1: Sometimes even when you're not playing well, you can overcome
Speaker 1: not playing well by playing hard.
Speaker 2: That's what he's saying.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's the good one.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: I like that, But I don't think without them having
Speaker 4: Lebron and Luca playing is out of okay, not not
Speaker 4: playing up the par there's even if you even if
Speaker 4: you did play hard and did and didn't take any shortcuts,
Speaker 4: you wasn't winning that game tonight because it's not enough.
Speaker 5: It's not enough people to have production.
Speaker 2: They had they had a twelve point lead, OJO.
Speaker 5: And what happened to the twelve point lead on.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: What happened was you kept filling, you kept putting the
Speaker 1: ass on the free throw line. They shot thirty free throws,
Speaker 1: you shot nineteen. You put you on the road, and
Speaker 1: you let a team I shoot you by eleven, You're
Speaker 1: probably gonna lose. M. I mean they shot the I
Speaker 1: mean the Lakers were I mean they shot better from
Speaker 1: the floor, they shot better from the three, they shot
Speaker 1: better from the free throw line. It was closely rebound
Speaker 1: I mean, no, they gave up sixteen offensive rebounds.
Speaker 2: On YO as well as you see.
Speaker 1: That's the hard stuff box out. You think the ball
Speaker 1: just go bounce to you. No, this was a game
Speaker 1: that they really needed to win Oho, because think about it,
Speaker 1: they got Milwaukee, they still got the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: They got the Nuggets twice. Said, and you're gonna space
Speaker 2: these teams without broy.
Speaker 5: Dropped you say they dropped third. They went from second
Speaker 5: to thirty.
Speaker 1: These and third their third, their half game back of second,
Speaker 1: their half game in front of Memphis for fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be without Lebron you basically, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna err on the side of caution they say he's
Speaker 1: gonna be out a week. I'm gonna keephim by two
Speaker 1: weeks because I don't want him to reinjure it.
Speaker 2: We're about five weeks away from the postseason.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want is Lebron living into the
Speaker 1: postseason because I know we got no chance.
Speaker 2: But you just gotta do all the thing.
Speaker 1: You gotta do the small stuff right, especially when you
Speaker 1: down one of your best players. I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: I said this at the time of the signing. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you signed alex Linn. Y'all should be
Speaker 1: y'all should have say Sacramento, we're gonna keep chipping a
Speaker 1: couple of dollars because we don't want him to come here.
Speaker 2: That's messed up moment, which Rob.
Speaker 1: When has anybody said, you know what, alex Linn might
Speaker 1: be the missing piece.
Speaker 2: He might be a good role player, he might be
Speaker 2: a good backup.
Speaker 5: I mean here in the NBA for a reason, now
Speaker 5: Here in the NBA.
Speaker 4: Hey look like you said all the time, he tall
Speaker 4: sometimes listen sometimes mess all to take now, if we
Speaker 4: if we getting me, if we if we can get
Speaker 4: him to play play what like like sight like the drums.
Speaker 5: Come on now you just out there waiting a roster spot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I look like Tarzan, play like Jane.
Speaker 5: No disrespect to young boy.
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm brother. I'm just saying, gave Vincent. Gave it
Speaker 1: to you tonight. He's starting to shoot the ball really well.
Speaker 1: Ate of twelve from the floor, six or nine from
Speaker 1: the three, two or two from the free throw line.
Speaker 1: He led the Lakers and scoring with twenty four. Luca
Speaker 1: played forty one minutes. Uh, he scored twenty two, but
Speaker 1: he took twenty six shots. Nah, you could never have
Speaker 1: fewer points been shot attempts. That's not good. Austin Reeves
Speaker 1: only had three more points that they had shot attempts.
Speaker 2: That's not good.
Speaker 1: Dgon Connect had one more point point than shot attemps.
Speaker 1: That's not good.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm.
Speaker 1: And like, and I said this again in all sincerity,
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see a scenario that Alex
Speaker 1: Lynn is better than Dwight Howard, even at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty eight to thirty nine.
Speaker 2: I just don't see it.
Speaker 4: United They not bringing anyone older the game. The game,
Speaker 4: the game itself is a young man's game. So even
Speaker 4: though Dwight House is big, that I'm sure they could
Speaker 4: use They just rather not do it. And I think
Speaker 4: I think there might have been some some riff if
Speaker 4: I'm not, if I'm not mistaken seeing it earlier. You know,
Speaker 4: with with with Dwight Howard had an exchange of words
Speaker 4: with with.
Speaker 5: With somebody but when he was on the Lakers, which
Speaker 5: is why he's not there now.
Speaker 2: But he ain't no exchange, no words. I got to
Speaker 2: change your word. You want to go?
Speaker 1: You want to go, You want to go, and to
Speaker 1: go farther than the first round of the playoffs. That's
Speaker 1: the word, not the word, but words further than the
Speaker 1: first round.
Speaker 5: If the Lakers really knew what they needed, you know who,
Speaker 5: you know who they really could have.
Speaker 2: Bought in What to me?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: You holding the ball like youre a nineteen fifties basketball player,
Speaker 1: man putting that ball out for your He.
Speaker 5: Don't don't worry about how I'm holding this ball. It
Speaker 5: is about where the ball gonna go once I get
Speaker 5: to the hoop.
Speaker 2: This is nowhere. Hey good, he ain't going to the basket.
Speaker 2: But when I was in high.
Speaker 5: School, I I averaged a triple double. Man, that's not
Speaker 5: That's what we're not gonna.
Speaker 4: Do average triple A triple double, A triple triple double.
Speaker 2: To talk about man, they say you had, they say
Speaker 2: you had quad double.
Speaker 4: Six a class six A Miami b S High. I
Speaker 4: averaged forty two points a night. To talk about man.
Speaker 4: Life used to be out there man like like a
Speaker 4: quadruple See like a mixture of Jamal Burray four points,
Speaker 4: four rebounds, two assists, six foind. Yeah, I was a
Speaker 4: mixture of Jamal Murray and Kyrie r. And that's what
Speaker 4: my package looked like. Yeah, I gotta, Yeah, I gotta.
Speaker 4: I got a package. Now ask about me, Ask about me?
Speaker 4: A mix of x lax and Feena min you were.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you, I'm telling you what I was built different.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You thought I was born in New York.
Speaker 5: The kind of handles I had, Yeah, that's that's what
Speaker 5: need to tell me.
Speaker 2: Boy, what you you from? You shoot you from?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: I said, yeah, but he played that when of them
Speaker 4: boys off a rook of park, I said, na, like,
Speaker 4: I just I.
Speaker 1: Just ain't nobody to say that. Oh Joe, you did
Speaker 1: I play basketball in high school?
Speaker 4: I played soccer. I'm saying I'm talk about that. Listen
Speaker 4: to me, my folk, My focal point was soccer. But
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's how good I was an athletic.
Speaker 4: I was where I could translate, you know. I iced
Speaker 4: to skip skip class and go to people pee class
Speaker 4: and play basketball.
Speaker 2: Oh, y'all, you can't play basketball.
Speaker 5: Listen, man, it's one thing about me. I lie for
Speaker 5: you before I lie to y'all.
Speaker 1: You're just lying now, I take. I mean, you ain't
Speaker 1: really talking to nobody in particular. You just p my Craer,
Speaker 1: what MC and jeeves. That's the only craft. That's all
Speaker 1: the craft. I know anything about that, You would know
Speaker 1: about all that other stuff you talk about holding hing that.
Speaker 2: What you're talking about
Speaker 1: The