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Speaker 1: On the set of Big Blue Kickoff Live, John Schmilk

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Speaker 1: with The Big Man Show. What's going on? Man? Hey John,

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, man. Thanks for inviting me back

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Speaker 1: to your little man cave. Yea, that is exactly what

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Speaker 1: it is. I think that's a good way to put

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Speaker 1: it all, right, John. We've kind of had a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks here now to breathe since the Giants got

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Speaker 1: knocked out of the playoffs by the Eagles, and unfortunately

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking about them again later in the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You're just overall thoughts on the year and what it

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Speaker 1: means for the franchise moving forward. Well, I thought, listen,

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Speaker 1: before the season started, the p word everybody was using

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Speaker 1: was progress for with this team, and that's what everybody

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Speaker 1: wanted to see. Um, you know, and I think the

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Speaker 1: fact that we are actually saying playoffs. They made the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: we want to playoff game. That's huge progress and I

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Speaker 1: think for the science, Um, I think that we saw

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Speaker 1: a lot of young players develop, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that that this organization has really been lacking, is look,

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Speaker 1: the draft a kid and in year three and year four,

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Speaker 1: you drafted them. And I think we finally have seen

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Speaker 1: that progress and these players. And I think it's amazing

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Speaker 1: the difference that Brian Dable and his staff, the difference

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Speaker 1: that they have created with the same players. You know, look,

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Speaker 1: there's definitely been some turnover on the roster um. You know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Shane has had his work cut out for them.

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Speaker 1: But when you look at a lot of these same

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Speaker 1: players that the Giants won games with. The core players

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Speaker 1: were here last year and it's and it's still it

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Speaker 1: was a dramatically different team, had a different vibe, different feel.

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Speaker 1: They were confident. Um they were, you know they were

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Speaker 1: they were also they believed in each other that hey,

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Speaker 1: the guys that can win it. And we're gonna find

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Speaker 1: a way to win games. And that was a breath

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Speaker 1: of first share for everybody. Yeah. I know, probably as

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Speaker 1: a player you don't want to hear this, but I

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Speaker 1: think even more important than the record and winning the

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Speaker 1: playoff game is exactly your point. Andrew Thomas is a

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Speaker 1: All pro level left tackle. Whether he gets the award

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Speaker 1: every year or not, he's playing at the level Dexter

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Speaker 1: Chris Jones and Aaron Donald right in that conversation. Despite

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Speaker 1: got better. More importantly, Daniel Jones showed he could stay

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Speaker 1: And se Juan showed he could stay healthy too. So

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Speaker 1: I think you did see, you know, key progress from

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Speaker 1: the cornerstone of the franchise. Not to mention the rookie class.

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Speaker 1: Cave On Thibodeaux did really well. Even Neil had some

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Speaker 1: the gyms. But um, the other point you talked about

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Speaker 1: absolutely This was This season was actually actually a great

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Speaker 1: what's important to me is the contract. What's important? Okay,

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Speaker 1: You can't wait for the underwear Olympics. Yeah, absolutely, Lebel,

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Speaker 1: We'll have it's different. Now you guys are gonna last.

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