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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Betting Probe podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by bet MGM. I'm your host Dan Harris

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Speaker 1: with me today to take an early look at the

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Speaker 1: week ten NFL lines. Is Joe Pizza Pa Joe, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining me. How are you?

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Speaker 2: I am well, my friend. It is nice to see

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Speaker 2: you again. I know you are getting very fatigued. As

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Speaker 2: gotta say I'm always happy to have you on these shows.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be doing these shows with you. And

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Speaker 2: it's not as easy as everybody thinks. Right, You're just

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Speaker 1: All right. We're going to do our early look here

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Speaker 1: at week ten and of the lines, we will look

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Speaker 1: at these spread and the over undersea if there's any

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Speaker 1: value in it. Obviously, we had some news shortly before

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Speaker 1: p we have got the Ravens visiting the Dolphins. The

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Speaker 1: consensus line and this is where it is at every

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Speaker 1: single book is the Ravens on the road, laying seven

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Speaker 1: and a half a total of forty six and a half.

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Speaker 1: We obviously have a few question marks here. We don't

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Speaker 1: know if two is going to play. Sounds like maybe

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Speaker 1: might be a long shot here with the finger, sounds

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Speaker 1: like Latavius Murray might be out again. So what do

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Speaker 1: you think here with seven and a half and total

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Speaker 1: of forty six and a half.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think Latavius Murray matters. Let me just

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Speaker 2: put that out there. We kind of talked about that

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Speaker 2: on our Fantasy Pro show yesterday where I think Freeman

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Speaker 2: Le'Veon Bell, whatever they've got, it's enough. Lamar Jackson's all

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Speaker 2: that matters. So as long as Lamar Jackson's healthy and

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Speaker 2: the seven and a half feels right here, especially because

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Speaker 2: we don't know if two is gonna make it back

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Speaker 2: in time and Jacoby Pressett is capable but not great.

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Speaker 2: The seven and a half is like whenever you're on

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Speaker 2: the road to that kind of a number, especially when

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Speaker 2: you get the kicker with the half point. I'm always

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Speaker 2: a little hesitant there because there's a lot of scenarios

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Speaker 2: you can write where all of a sudden, garbage time,

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Speaker 2: things of that nature where you're traveling. To me, that's

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Speaker 2: always a little one that I would stay away from

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Speaker 2: a little bit. However, in the forty six and a

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Speaker 2: half on the over under, the over is very appealing

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Speaker 2: to me for two reasons. Number One, I just mentioned

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Speaker 2: that Jacoby Brissett is capable, right, he's capable. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: to move the ball to some degree. And the Ravens

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Speaker 2: they're giving up thirty spots like it's water and someone's

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Speaker 2: Would you like a thirty spot. I've got a thirty

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Speaker 2: teams are drinking it. Joe Burrow is drinking it, and

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Speaker 2: the forty six and a half is actually a very

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Speaker 2: to imagine there's at least some garbage time productivities somewhere

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Speaker 2: six and a half that's what I'm looking at. I'm

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Speaker 2: looking at the over. That's my strongest lean here. But Dan,

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about this one too? When you're

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I think it forced

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Speaker 1: think it sticks at seven and a half. I don't

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Speaker 1: I do, like you, though, like the over, and again

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Speaker 1: the consensus line is forty six and a half. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of forty six is out there, including

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Speaker 1: I agree with you that the over is the play here.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the Ravens defense was on the field that

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Speaker 1: whole game. I mean I as much as you know.

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Speaker 1: Obviously they had more time possession, but that was an

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Speaker 1: And realistically, the offense or the Ravens, it's humming pretty

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you. I'm in on the over.

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Speaker 1: I would do it now, but again, you can get

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Speaker 1: a forty six out there that makes it even more enticing.

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Speaker 1: This one, Joe, this next one, I don't know, seems

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Speaker 1: like it's begging you. In my opinion, the line to

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Speaker 1: to bet on the Titans right now? They're completely unsolvable.

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Speaker 1: They're only laying three here to a Saints team that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes this is a good jock. Right We look

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Speaker 2: Titans are seven and two, despite all of the injuries,

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Speaker 2: If you're getting to the quarterback, that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: And if that quarterback is Trevor Simeon, if that quarterback

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Speaker 2: and turnovers do two things. Number One, it makes it

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Speaker 2: that becomes very difficult for a team. So to me,

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Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans' ability to do that and possibly create

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Speaker 2: to like Tennessee at home here. I think the New

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Speaker 2: they're not great against the pass. The Tennessee running back

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Speaker 2: the defense that's been coming on for the Tennessee Titans

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Speaker 2: that I think. The minus three is where I lean.

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Speaker 2: I don't kind of screw around with this number here.

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Speaker 2: The forty four and a half, that's very tricky, especially

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Speaker 2: with the Saints using second and third string quarterbacks. That

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Speaker 2: three is actually a pretty good number here. I don't

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Speaker 1: It strikes me as when you're looking at it, you're

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Speaker 1: just thinking about it. The Titans are the play. But

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Speaker 1: this also strikes me as a very just sort of

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Speaker 1: classic you bet enough, Joe. I feel like you come

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Speaker 1: larning these spots where it just feels like a Bilo

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Speaker 1: there's a reason that it's only three. I need to

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Speaker 2: I think the reason is the defense and it's Alvin

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Speaker 2: you got to come back to is the quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: If this was Winston in this game, I would say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is a perfect opportunity where you come back there

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Speaker 2: and it looks great, Tennessee's right and high, You've put

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Speaker 1: I think for me, I'm staying away from the game

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Speaker 1: entirely for now. I need to dig into it. We'll

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Speaker 1: see how I feel on Thursday. Let's go to the

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Speaker 1: third straight game for the Bills. They're laying a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of points. They're on the road against the Jets.

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Speaker 1: They are laying thirteen right now. There are a couple

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Speaker 1: of thirteen and a halfs out there, but the CONTENTUCS

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Speaker 1: line is thirteen total forty seven and a half bounce

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Speaker 1: back spot for the Bills here or what.

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Speaker 2: I think it is. Thirteen and a half is still

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Speaker 2: a massive number though, So I don't feel comfortable with this,

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Speaker 2: and the Bills should take it out on the Jets theoretically, right,

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Speaker 2: I think we're all looking at this as well. This

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Speaker 2: is the get right game, right, But if we've learned

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Speaker 2: anything from watching the Kansasity Chiefs, maybe there is no

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Speaker 2: get right team for certainty. Like maybe certain teams just

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Speaker 2: or be exactly who they want them to be and

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Speaker 2: be dominant. They've been dominant, right, But they've been dominant

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Speaker 2: against let's say the Miami Dolphins, right, We're a team

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Speaker 2: they've owned always. Now you go down there into Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: and you basically just look embarrassed there by the Jaguars. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: theoretically this thirteen and a half, I think it will

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Speaker 2: probably grow as the week goes on with more confidence.

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Speaker 2: My guess is this will get to fourteen and a half,

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Speaker 1: Falcons are visiting the Cowboys. The consensus line is Cowboys

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Speaker 2: But this game feels like it's going to be a shootout.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing. The Cowboys defense is not.

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Speaker 1: say that the lines, the contentsive line is nine. That

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Speaker 1: I have an eight and a half here DraftKings. I

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Speaker 1: see a ten at points bets. So it's all over

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Speaker 2: Well, that's the NFL beyond. That's why earlier to the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars visiting the Colt line is ten Colts playing ten

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Speaker 2: What do you think run away from this game? I

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Speaker 2: that because they start to think, hey, you know, maybe

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Speaker 2: we're better than we think we are. We're gonna build

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Speaker 2: It could also end very quickly. But to me, it's

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Speaker 2: And I would say this number Dan probably be closer

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, Joe. I'm really reshinding with

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that really inspires competence in a

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Speaker 1: it moved a point or two. The big thing with me, though, Joe,

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Speaker 1: this one is just a game that I want run away.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely they've been. They've been terrible in spots

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Speaker 2: It's too big of a variance, too many outcomes, and

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Speaker 2: when you start to think about that, you move away

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Speaker 1: Bucks visiting Washington Bucks are laying nine and a half.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually feel comfortable with the nine and a

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Speaker 2: The one thing the Washington football team should do well

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Speaker 1: I do think that if you like this line, as

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Speaker 1: There are variables that I'm not exactly sure how to

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Speaker 1: account for. So with the big spread, I don't feel

432
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Speaker 1: great about it. I feel a little bit better about

433
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Speaker 1: this next one. I am very interested to hear your

434
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Speaker 1: opinion on it, Joe. That's the Browns visiting the Patriots.

435
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,359
Speaker 1: The Patriots right now are laying one and a half

436
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,840
Speaker 1: in Foxborough. The total is low forty five and a half.

437
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Speaker 1: Now we can deal with what we heard shortly before

438
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Speaker 1: we started recording, which is the fact that Nick Chubb

439
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Speaker 1: and Dimitric Felton and I believe John Kelly are all

440
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Speaker 1: on the COVID list. I believe they tested positive. They

441
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Speaker 1: are vaccinated, So I think it is possible that they

442
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,359
Speaker 1: may be able to return for this game. But I

443
00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,639
Speaker 1: think it's sounding like seems unlikely that they're going to

444
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Speaker 1: be able to return. Now there could be more cases

445
00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 1: from this. They've obviously had something from their running back room,

446
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,959
Speaker 1: so who even knows if they're lone healthy running back

447
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,400
Speaker 1: at this point. Duranis Johnson is going to be able

448
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 1: to play, But you also have question marks on the

449
00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 1: other side of the ball with the running backs for

450
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Speaker 1: the Patriots, where we haven't heard very much about Damien

451
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Speaker 1: Harris or Ramandre Stevenson. So ats at home one and

452
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Speaker 1: a half. Low total here at forty five and a half.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Joe, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This is a low total that I don't think is

455
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Speaker 2: going to disappoint. I think it's gonna be a lore total.

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be.

457
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Speaker 2: An ugly defensive game. This has like sixteen thirteen kind

458
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Speaker 2: of written all over it. I think it's going to

459
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Speaker 2: be ugly, and ugly games tend to favor of the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So the Patriots on the money line I think are

461
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Speaker 2: minus one twenty four. But the one and a half,

462
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Speaker 2: if you want to push the envelope just a little,

463
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Speaker 2: there is the minus one ten. So I would lean

464
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Speaker 2: to the Patriots side with this Nick Chubb news now

465
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Speaker 2: before the Nick Chubb needs a different story, I would

466
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Speaker 2: really have given them a chance. In fact, I would

467
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Speaker 2: have taken probably Cleveland on the money line before because

468
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Speaker 2: it was actually a higher number than is right now,

469
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Speaker 2: which is now one o six. But it was better

470
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Speaker 2: just a few hours ago. But it feels like New

471
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 2: England is playing with a lot of confidence. I think,

472
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Speaker 2: you know, and we talked about this together. Sometimes you

473
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Speaker 2: take something out of a loss, and I think they

474
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Speaker 2: took a lot out of that loss to Tampa. Was like,

475
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Speaker 2: we can compete with the Super Bowl champions. And then

476
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Speaker 2: they had this game with Dallas and they were neck

477
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Speaker 2: and neck with them, and then the ball went back

478
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Speaker 2: and forth and eventually they lost that game. But you

479
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Speaker 2: felt like, wow, we can compete with this offense, we

480
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Speaker 2: can compete with we can compete here with these better

481
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Speaker 2: teams in the NFC. And I think collective, we can

482
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Speaker 2: all agree that the AFC is not nearly the juggernaut

483
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Speaker 2: that the NFC is. So this is an intriguing matchup here.

484
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Speaker 2: I think the Browns are coming off a very emotional win.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that carries over and Baker Mayfield,

486
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Speaker 2: I think is going to see a lot of confusing

487
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Speaker 2: looks here, especially if he's going to be forced to

488
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Speaker 2: throw the football a lot more, which is a problem

489
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Speaker 2: because this secondary I mean Adrian Phillips two picks two

490
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Speaker 2: weeks ago against the Chargers, you got last week, you

491
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Speaker 2: got the several interceptions obviously from Sam Darnell J C. Jackson,

492
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Speaker 2: these or Ballhawks Duggers played very well at safety. I'm

493
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Speaker 2: telling you right now, is a very dangerous spot here

494
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Speaker 2: for Baker Mayfield, who when you don't have Nick Chubb

495
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Speaker 2: in that play action, he becomes a bit of a

496
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Speaker 2: liability because he likes to get a little loosey goosey

497
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Speaker 2: with the football. That's a bad situation here. I would

498
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Speaker 2: go with the Patriots and this one with the one

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Speaker 2: and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't Here's the one thing. I don't think

501
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 1: you have to bet this one either way at the moment.

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Speaker 1: It's one and a half. I mean, if it moved

503
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Speaker 1: in the other direction and somehow the Patriots were getting

504
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Speaker 1: one and a half really doesn't mean that much really,

505
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Speaker 1: when you're cross the heer or anything like that. I

506
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Speaker 1: lean towards the Browns here, Joe, even with it. I

507
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Speaker 1: you know, but we talk about this a lot. I

508
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Speaker 1: have trouble buying into the Patriots team. Now I realized

509
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Speaker 1: they played very well against the Bucks and that was

510
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a jumping off point, and they

511
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Speaker 1: played very well against Dallas. I think there might have

512
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Speaker 1: been extenuating circumstances or that. Then they beat up on

513
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Speaker 1: the Jets Justin Herbert always struggles essentially when he plays

514
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's defense, and Carolina is Sam Garnold and you

515
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: know ridiculousness. I still don't trust their offense all that much,

516
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Speaker 1: which is the problem with going against, you know, an

517
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Speaker 1: above average defense like Cleveland has, especially when they're able

518
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Speaker 1: to get a pass rush on Mac Jones when he

519
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Speaker 1: has to go, and if they are limited at running back,

520
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Speaker 1: I think it affects them more even than it affects

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Speaker 1: the Browns not having Nick Chubb, which we saw when

522
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Speaker 1: you know the rings Johnson subbed in against Denver in

523
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Speaker 1: that one game. So this is tough for me. I

524
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Speaker 1: do think that the point that you brought up, Joe,

525
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Speaker 1: which is the letdown here for Cleveland, I mean that

526
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Speaker 1: was you got rid of Odell Beckham junior, you got

527
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Speaker 1: to face a division rival Cincinnati, who's sort of on

528
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Speaker 1: top of the world. Everybody was very excited about them

529
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Speaker 1: despite the Jets loss, and then you just go out

530
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Speaker 1: and you just maul them entirely like this then comes

531
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Speaker 1: in and is a letdown spot for sure. That is

532
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Speaker 1: really what gives me pause. But I'm interested because I

533
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Speaker 1: just I'm not buying yet this Patriots team as an

534
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Speaker 1: elite I think their defense is very good. I don't

535
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Speaker 1: buy it as an elite defense, and I think the

536
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Speaker 1: offense really if you play a game script where you

537
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 1: know you make Mac Jones do things makes me a

538
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: little word, you know what I mean.

539
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Speaker 2: Just I don't like when I'm made to do things.

540
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Speaker 2: I hate when you do things. You're like, Joe, will

541
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Speaker 2: you go do this show with me? And I say

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Speaker 2: I'd rather not.

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Speaker 1: Dan, I think you're in a position where Mac Jones

544
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Speaker 1: and again I live in New England. I know you're

545
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Speaker 1: a Patriots fan. I live in New England and the

546
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Speaker 1: number of people who now think Mac Jones is an

547
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: absolute savior where I'm like, he's a fine game manager.

548
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Speaker 1: I think if you put the game on him to win.

549
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Speaker 1: And the one thing I do is I love I

550
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Speaker 1: think the Browns are a different team without Odell Beckham Junior,

551
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Speaker 1: both from just the way they play in the way

552
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield plays and just from a psyche perspective, man.

553
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Speaker 2: Yeah, either're also a different team without Nick Chubb. And

554
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Speaker 2: I don't care what Chasis Johnson did on the one off.

555
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is one of the best running backs of

556
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: the planet. You take him away again, what you take

557
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: away is the play action from Baker Mayfield, and it's

558
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: not the same quarterback when Deers Johnson was good, right,

559
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Speaker 2: So DearS Johnson played with another quarterback, not Baker Mayfield.

560
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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I think there's a lot of variables. Now,

561
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 2: you put this into for the Cleveland Browns and I

562
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: would be very hesitant of it. And you're right, Mac

563
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: Jones is a game manager. But you can win a

564
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: lot of football games with a game manager quarterback and

565
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: a great defense. And that's what the Patriots have. And

566
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Speaker 2: they're at home. I know they've lost some games at

567
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: home early in the year, but I think that's when

568
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Speaker 2: they were trying to find their identity. I think they've

569
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Speaker 2: got it now and I think they realize their identity

570
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 2: and I think they're improving every week and the confidence

571
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Speaker 2: keeps growing. And that's the dangerous thing. We talked about.

572
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Speaker 2: Confidence this time of year, we're into the double digit weeks,

573
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Speaker 2: the teams that are feeling better about themselves. The season

574
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Speaker 2: goes on and teams are feeling worse. I worry about

575
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: the letdown a little bit, but this is going to

576
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: be an ugly game, and after that, maybe we should

577
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Speaker 2: just play the under considering we've talked ourselves into how

578
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Speaker 2: disappointing these teams are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be Unders are horrible to play in

580
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Speaker 1: the NFL right now just watching it, except this past week,

581
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: which was fine. But I will say I appreciate you

582
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: not wearing your tough club shirt as we get into this.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our next game here. It

584
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Speaker 1: is the Lions visiting the Steelers, fresh off that narrow

585
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Speaker 1: victory over the Bears. The Steelers at home are nine

586
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 1: total is forty two and a half. We do have

587
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Speaker 1: some injury concerns, admittedly for the Steilers Chase. I haven't

588
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: seen anything yet today, Joe, but he did get banged

589
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: up there at the end of the game. So what

590
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: do you think about this one?

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Speaker 2: This is another dangerous one and it's because typically the

592
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Speaker 2: Lions compete. Now, I know the last time we saw

593
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Speaker 2: the Lions, they got their doors blown off by the freakin' Eagles.

594
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: But at the same time, the weeks before that, you

595
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: saw a team that they go out there and they fight.

596
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Speaker 2: They don't have nearly the talent to compete, that is

597
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 2: the problem, and to be competitive, but or at least

598
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 2: to win a football game. But their effort level can

599
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 2: never be in question, and that's something that's always very

600
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: dangerous when you see a double digit close number. Now,

601
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Speaker 2: once this gets into the double digits, this is very much,

602
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Speaker 2: I think, a scary place where I probably don't want

603
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Speaker 2: to get involved. The good news is that the Steelers defense,

604
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Speaker 2: I think collectively this year, is back on track. Start

605
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: off a little shaky at times there, but I think

606
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: they're getting into a better place. It was nice to

607
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: see justin fields, as you said, start to look more confident.

608
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Things going their way a little bit. But look at

609
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: the end of the day, this is the Lions going

610
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,479
Speaker 2: into Pittsburgh. So you would imagine, yes, the Pittsburgh Steelers

611
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: should be able to take this nine and it should

612
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 2: be comfortable. But once it starts across the double digit threshold,

613
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Speaker 2: I start to get a little bit more concerned. Dan,

614
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Speaker 2: I think this is another one of those games, as

615
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 2: you mentioned earlier, if you like it, lock it in

616
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Speaker 2: now before it moves anymore.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see hitting the Lions if it got

618
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: beyond ten. I don't necessarily think it'll get there because

619
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Speaker 1: I think, I think when you look at this game,

620
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Speaker 1: the quote unquote sharp money and the big money is

621
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: probably going to keep it in check generally, so we

622
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: can keep the books from moving it too high. But

623
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Speaker 1: I cannot back a Mike Tomlin led Steelers team at

624
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: home as nearly a double digit favorite. I definitely can so.

625
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: At nine, I'm personally staying away from it. I could

626
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: see them winning even on a short week, of course,

627
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: even with the Lions off of vibe, but the Lions compete,

628
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: they will keep it as close as possible. I'm not

629
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Speaker 1: going near the spread. I'm really tired of taking like

630
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: the low Steelers, not going near the over under. I'm sorry,

631
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Speaker 1: I'm really tired of taking the low Deelers like totals

632
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: right now and hoping and then see what happens. Then

633
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: this is probably more of a stay away for me.

634
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: If it gets above double digits, I might take I

635
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: mean above ten, I might take the lines. They're interesting

636
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: one here Joey Vikings are visiting the Chargers. Chargers are

637
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 1: laying two and a half. The total is fifty two.

638
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: What do you think, I think Vikings on the money

639
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: line plus one twenty four. This is how you make

640
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: money in this game. The Vikings are jackal and hide.

641
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: The Vikings are a hot mess. The Vikings are at

642
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 2: any given week awesome in a quarter and then terrible

643
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 2: the next. But the thing that they're starting to do

644
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 2: more and you started to see a little bit more

645
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: with the Ravens is run the football in that game

646
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: last week, right, get the ball to Dalvin Cook, run

647
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: the football. Find a little bit of toughness here, and

648
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 2: that is the Achilles heel of the Chargers. And it's

649
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 2: a little bit different when Boston Scott and Jordan Howard

650
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: are running the football in front of you than when

651
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 2: Dalvin Cook is running the football. I think this is

652
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: a unique opportunity here where you saw some moments out

653
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: of that defense. And you talk about tire defenses, Man,

654
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: how exhausted is that Vikings defense after chasing Lamar Jackson

655
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: for one hundred and twelve yards? But I would say

656
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 2: this too, even with that, you saw the heart of

657
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: this defense start to step up a little bit in

658
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: that overtime, that incredible play by bar where he actually

659
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: has not only the deflection, but then the interception is

660
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: well in the same play, and you say, this is

661
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: the moment you've got to score here. And of course

662
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: they fail, right because they're the Vikings and they're maddening.

663
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 2: But after that you knew the game was over because

664
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: that was their one opportunity. But the fact that defense

665
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: didn't quit against Lamar Jackson is a very good sign.

666
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: The Chargers are a little soft. I'm just gonna say it.

667
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: This is what they are. They have talent, but they're

668
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: a little bit of a soft team, and they've always

669
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: been a soft team, and it's why sometimes you see

670
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: them struggle in certain games. And I think this is

671
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: a perfect scenario where we look at a line, we

672
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: say the Chargers should be favored, the Chargers are at home,

673
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 2: the Chargers are gonna win this football game, and the

674
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: middle of soa Vikings are maddening and frustrating. But I

675
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: would go right to the Vikings. This is the upset

676
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: special of the week. This is the game where if

677
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: you look at a healthy Vikings offense, that's got cook

678
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: that's got Field and it's got Jefferson. That's a lot

679
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: to contend with for a good but not great Charger defense.

680
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: I think there's a real opportunity here potentially for an upset,

681
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 2: and I think Vikings on the money line at one

682
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: twenty four plus one twenty four is where I go.

683
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is the spot where, just historically,

684
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: you buy the Vikings. You buy Mike Zimmer getting his

685
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: team ready to play. You buy that defense sort of

686
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: coming together. You buy them when you're sort of coming

687
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: off a crushing loss and you're like, oh, they can't

688
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: sort of rally from this every sing and again it's

689
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: a by low cell high spot, which is the best

690
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: types of spots to bet because the Chargers coming off

691
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: that big win, justin Herbert playing out of his mind

692
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: almost perfect football there, so it's a spot to sell them.

693
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna wait again, I'm not going to run

694
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: to bet this because I do like the Vikings, so

695
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: right now, at least as I first look at it,

696
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wait. I'm not going to run to bet it.

697
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: If you like the Chargers, I would bet it now

698
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 1: because I think there is a bigger chance. I mean

699
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: it's it's not gonna move that much in the Vikings

700
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: direction anyway, whether you get it two and a half

701
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: or one and a half, not a huge but I

702
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: think there's a risk that it I would get to

703
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: three here for the Chargers is probably the public comes

704
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: into back the Chargers if you like the Vikings, and

705
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: especially on the money line, like you, if you like

706
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 1: the Vikings, I would wait even on the money line,

707
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: because I don't think it gets much worse for you.

708
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: I think it only gets better. Do you have any

709
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: feelings on the total, Joe, do you think it's going

710
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: to go under the fifty two just because of the

711
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: fact that you know you're liking the Vikings defense a

712
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: little more.

713
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna come very close to it, so

714
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: close that I want to stay away from it day.

715
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: That's why I think the best wager here is you

716
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: know what you should do, probably, in my opinion, the

717
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: wage shapes off this week. Take two of those lock things,

718
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: like if you feel like it's it's the Steelers in

719
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: the box or whatever whatever teams you think are in

720
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: the best position here, and then you could either take

721
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: that Falcons number or the nine or this win outright

722
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: potentially in the money line of the Vikings. I think

723
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: you can make a nice little parlay with some of

724
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: those combinations this week, with some of those massive favorites

725
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: that you feel good about that we talked about, and

726
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 2: then throw in one of those things that feels like

727
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: a cover, feels like this feels like maybe an right upset.

728
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: But look, I mean, how many times you have to

729
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: learn about the Chargers that you know the Chargers would

730
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 2: push comes to show they fall apart many many times.

731
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know how we're supposed to analyze the Panthers,

732
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: visit name the Cardinals at this point, but we do

733
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: because we're here. The consensus line is the Cardinals laying

734
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: ten and the total at forty four and a half.

735
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: We don't know who's starting at quarterback for the Cardinals.

736
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 1: We don't know who's starting a quarterback for the Panthers.

737
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: We don't know if DeAndre Hopkins is going to play.

738
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: We don't know almost anything about this game. So if

739
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: as a better Joe, you're sitting here at this point

740
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: spread as ten, the totals forty four, just like, Okay,

741
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I'm just staying away. Or is

742
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: there some sort of value that you think can be

743
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: locked in right.

744
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: Now, I don't see the value because the other weird

745
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: thing is if it is PJ. Walker and Colt McCoy

746
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, right you do have

747
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey back, and that's a game changing kind of

748
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: player in his second game back, right first game back,

749
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 2: you know, against the Patriots, toff defense, all this stuff.

750
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Not the Cardinals aren't a good defense. They are, but

751
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: it's a little different. I don't know. I think that

752
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: when you look at the four outcome games, as we

753
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: always like to talk about them, to me, I run away.

754
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with it, especially when you

755
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: don't have Clarrey at the quarterback position. That makes things

756
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: very difficult. If anything, if anything, if I had to

757
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: pick one thing, I would I would probably give a

758
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 2: little respect to the Carolina Panthers defense and I would

759
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 2: go on the plus ten because there's something about that

760
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 2: that feels like, you know that that defense is a

761
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: little bit different than a forty nine or defense. The

762
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: Panthers defense very physical, they like to hit you, they

763
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: like to get out there a little bit, and I

764
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: think that's a little different. And also Chase Edmonds. You

765
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: mentioned him. He's gonna be out for that game too,

766
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 2: so you're looking at probably EEno Benjamin also getting some

767
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: carries along with James Connor. So too many variables for me.

768
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: If I had anything inclination right now, would be Carolina

769
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: on the plus ten because it is a double digit

770
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: number and that defense is good and typically those that

771
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 2: combination of things is good enough to invest in.

772
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm running as far as away from the I mean,

773
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: I just I just have no idea what to do.

774
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if PJ. Walker is an upgrade over

775
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: seven at this point.

776
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: I might be an upgrade for Sam darnld this I

777
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: can still throw the football.

778
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: I say, it's just a game. I have no interest

779
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: in whatsoever at all. Completely. I don't mind saying that

780
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I do have interest in this game, Joe, I'd be interested.

781
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Are your thoughts on it? Bronco's laying three to the

782
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,479
Speaker 1: Eagles with the total of forty four in Denver.

783
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: This is the one I want to run away from

784
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: because the Broncos are another one of these teams where

785
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: you know, every time you think they're going in one direction,

786
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: they go with the other. And I feel like this

787
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: is a huge trap, right. They're coming off this great victory.

788
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: They put an absolute whooping on the Dallas Cowboys in

789
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 2: Dallas in their building, and now theoretically you're going at

790
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: home against an Eagles team that Again, Eagles are frustrating.

791
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: They are very up and down. They're very all over

792
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: the place. That makes them very difficult to invest in,

793
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 2: but also makes them very difficult to invest against. And

794
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: that reason alone, when you put these two teams together

795
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: in an environment like Denver, with the altitude, there's a

796
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 2: lot here I don't care for, if anything, that forty four,

797
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: which is also a low number. Ugh, I wish it

798
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: was four or something like that. If it was forty

799
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 2: six or forty seven and a half, I would say,

800
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: let's go to the under. But we're already sitting at

801
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: forty four and that's pretty low already. So this is

802
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: a very frustrating set up. The way the lines are

803
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: right now, so the early lines, I don't see any

804
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 2: value with this game. Therefore I run away.

805
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Eagles at plus three, and I don't

806
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: think there is a couple of plus two and a

807
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: halfs out there, which makes me more nervous about it.

808
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles have found the formula to keep

809
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: a game close, which is, please don't rely on Jalen

810
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: Hurts to keep the game close. I think they're going

811
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: to run the ball, which you can now against Denver

812
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: as they have suffered some injuries going here. And I

813
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: think that also allows when you establish the run the

814
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: way you do, that allows Jalen Hurts to you know,

815
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: have fewer pass attempts, but be more effective with those

816
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: pass attempts. Conversely, with the Broncos, they're coming off you know,

817
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: this huge you know performance right now, but ps they

818
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: suffered a lot of injuries. I mean, Glasgow's out on

819
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line. They've got a bunch of offensive line injury.

820
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't you know the fact that they

821
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: lost Calahan a couple of weeks ago. They're dealing with

822
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: some injuries that we're just not really talking about that much.

823
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: And this is sort of where normally going into Mile

824
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: you know, into into Denver is not where I want

825
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: to attack.

826
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 2: You could call it mile high.

827
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 1: We don't know that.

828
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 2: It's Dan Harris Field. I think right now I will.

829
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: Call it I hate spotsors. I was like Mile Denver

830
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,479
Speaker 1: betting gros Stadium that's true, we should actually be good. Yeah,

831
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: I would go. I think in the end, I think

832
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: the Eagles might win this game outright, I think this

833
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: is a good sell of the Broncos spot here, despite

834
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the fact that they are obviously getting healthier at wide receiver.

835
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles do come in here and win

836
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: this game. I will still take the three points, though,

837
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: because I do think that the likelihood of the Eagles

838
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: getting completely blown out here are minimal at this point.

839
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: I like what they have been doing. I still think

840
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: their defense is strong. There you go in the roster.

841
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: So I do think for me, I would take the

842
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: Eagles along as you get three or above. Completely agree

843
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: on the total. Get me out with the total. I

844
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 1: think it's going to be low scoring, but forty four

845
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: there's no value in that. Like, if it gets up

846
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: to forty six, show I'm in agreeing with you, then

847
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: I might hit the under at this point because again,

848
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: two teams that want to run the ball out. But

849
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 1: that's it. Here's Here's going to be a fun one. Joe.

850
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: The Seahawks are visiting the Packers right now. The Packers

851
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: are laying three and a half points, and the total

852
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: is forty nine and a half.

853
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: You know what I think you do? I think you

854
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: hit the Seahawks number now, I do. I think you

855
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 2: hit the Seahawks and the three and a half right now.

856
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: And then if Eric and look and you understand that

857
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: if Aaron Rodgers plays that it very well.

858
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: You know it's not a terrible number. Though. I mean,

859
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's going to come back in this game. We

860
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: know that, right, you mentioned that coming in right from

861
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the start, you have.

862
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: Three and a half. But here's the thing. What happens

863
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: is if Aaron Rodgers is out Dan, what does the

864
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: line then become? Right?

865
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

866
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: I mean I would imagine we're looking at six and

867
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: a half minus side on on the Seahawks.

868
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: That's why I would put it that. I would I

869
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: would put it as like a.

870
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 2: Did you watch Jordan Love play quarterback?

871
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I did watch Jordan Love play and they almost won

872
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: that game. I would put it probably we'll get to

873
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: the chief the second. I'd probably put it at like

874
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: a six point six to seven point swing where you're

875
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: looking at the Packers at home in Lambeo. Still Wilson's

876
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: first game back. The Seahawks aren't that impressive anyway. I

877
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: would look at as probably the packers get maybe this

878
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: this spread and reverse Joe the packers getting three three

879
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: and a half. That's how I would think that.

880
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: I I think it's going to be much bigger than

881
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: that because Wilson's pack and because what Jordan Love was

882
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: last week, and once there's more tape on you with

883
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: Jordan Love too, that's the worst. The best opportunity Jordan

884
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: Love had to be good was last week. Well, I

885
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: will was last week before everybody knew what his pluses

886
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: and minus is worth.

887
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people knew what his pluses

888
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: and mine. But I do think also it's a different

889
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: ball game when you are going into Arrowhead still called

890
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: that Arrowhead, right, which is a very difficult place to play.

891
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: His mom gets the worst seats in the house. It's

892
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: a very very difficult place to play. It's a hostile environment.

893
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: It's always been one of the better home field advantages

894
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: as opposed to coming home, where you've got everybody who's

895
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,439
Speaker 1: going to be rooting for you another week at least

896
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: to prepare. I don't think it's gonna be quite as

897
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: bad as we saw necessarily, but I understand for me,

898
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: Joe honestly, like, this might be a spot where you

899
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: right now tease them up, tease them up to nine

900
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: and a half at this point, right because even if

901
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: Rogers play is Joe, even if he's cleared, which again

902
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: I've just been assuming and the books have not moved

903
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: the line since those comments those come. So my guess

904
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: is they're like, Okay, you're not a doctor, we assume

905
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: you're gonna get cleared. Yeah.

906
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 2: I think we've all could agree that Aaron Rodgers, in

907
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: terms of his medical awareness, is not necessarily the guy

908
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 2: we want to take our avits.

909
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: But like, for example, at points bet it's four and

910
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: a half, Like, if you can get that to ten

911
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: and a half, man, I would love that. I'm a

912
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: big fan of the two team teaser, even if it

913
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: burned me last week with me sort of thinking I

914
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: was very smart by getting the Chiefs down to one

915
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, good the forty nine ers

916
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: up to seven and a half point favorites when they

917
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: were one half point dog. That did not work out

918
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: for me.

919
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 2: But all I can say about this, yeah, Dan is

920
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: cool story, bro cool story about what Jordan Love could

921
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: be in front of the Green Bay Packer fans and yeah,

922
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: that would be nice and stuff. But once again, yes,

923
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: you saw a game film of him in college and

924
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: all that stuff, but that's different when you're at the

925
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: NFL level and you see certain things going on and

926
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: you understand, well, he struggles here, and he struggles with

927
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: this kind of a if we press him from this,

928
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, once there's more tape on you,

929
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: it becomes infinitely more difficult. And that's why you see

930
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 2: sometimes the backup quarterback have a lot of success with

931
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 2: the rookie Quarterack, come out, oh look out, good is

932
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: this savior? He's great? And then what happens It completely

933
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 2: falls apart, typically in the two to three games after.

934
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: If you go back and watch Gino Smith, which is

935
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 2: the Seahawks, right that game he came in, he was

936
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: like a good He's throwing the ball around, you know,

937
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: and he's like, okay, now let's game plan for him.

938
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 2: Let's show him defensive looks that are gonna be real

939
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: problems for him. And yes, you are right, they were

940
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: still in that game, but that was not because of

941
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. That was in spite of Jordan Love. And

942
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: I think if Love plays, I think this is a

943
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,479
Speaker 2: huge swing. I would stick with the Seattle side now,

944
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: and then if you get the Aaron Rodgers news he's

945
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: not playing, you double down on it hard. I don't

946
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: care what the number is. You go all into it

947
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: again and you double up on it. That's the approach

948
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: I think for this game.

949
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Right now, good enough for me. Let's go to the

950
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs visiting the Raiders on Sunday Night football. The Chiefs

951
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: are laying two and a half. The totals fifty one

952
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: and a half. I have less of a feel for

953
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: this Chiefs team than I do for anything in life, whatsoever.

954
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 1: What do you do here on the road division game

955
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: against the team with a better record laying two and

956
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: a half points? What do you think?

957
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: I think the under and especially with that hook on

958
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,919
Speaker 2: the fifty one and a half, That's what I think,

959
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: because if you look at what the Chiefs offense has

960
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: not done, it's convert. And I will say this too.

961
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't the best outing, but typically, you know,

962
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: whenever the Raiders have to go across country, they always struggle,

963
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 2: and they for some reason, they always look terrible in

964
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: met I don't know if they in the meadowlands for

965
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: some reason, I don't know why the Raiders go in there.

966
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: If they're playing the Jets and playing the Giants last

967
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: couple of years, maybe they need another hotel to stay at.

968
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Maybe they should stand

969
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: by the airport, they should stay somewhere else. They should

970
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: stay at the Hilton and not the Marriyout. I don't

971
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: know what's going on for this team. All I know

972
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: is that for some reason, that's not a good gauge

973
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: of who they are. But I will say this, they

974
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: will get up for play to play this game. They

975
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: know this game's on the schedule. I think that was

976
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 2: also part of what you saw last week a little

977
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: bit is looking ahead a little bit and like, well,

978
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 2: we know, well we can, you know, play the Giants

979
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: right now, but we know that this is the game

980
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: coming up against the chief that really matters. And the

981
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: ineptitude of the Chiefs offense everything should have screamed the

982
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: other side. They had so many opportunities, and they continue

983
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 2: to struggle. Mahomes continues to struggle. And then you look

984
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: in the in division matchup and how tough those are

985
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: typically and how these teams played each other're tight. I

986
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: don't know how the most appealing number isn't the fifty

987
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: one and a half personally? Yeah, I mean even if

988
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: it's a thirty twenty game at the end of the day.

989
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say, there are a couple of

990
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: books at MGM, one of them fifty two and a half.

991
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: So that's if you might want it. That's not a

992
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: bad I think, you know again, I agree the Chiefs offense, Like,

993
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: I can't imagine whatever happens, Joe, whether or not they're

994
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 1: able to figure this out by the time things get

995
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: really meaningful. I don't think they're walking into this game

996
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: being like we figured out everything's back to normal, We're

997
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. We're operating at full capacity at this

998
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: point because they have had every opportunity to do so

999
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: in the last few weeks and they just have not

1000
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: gotten it. So yeah, I'm with you, all right, I'm

1001
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: gonna hit the under. I like it, Joe. Last one

1002
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: here Monday night football Rams are visiting the forty nine ers.

1003
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: The Rams here are laying four points and the totals

1004
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: forty nine and a half.

1005
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: Way right now, the Rams on Fando, I see her

1006
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: three and a half, So that's you know again, Maybe

1007
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: that's the spot where you want to go to that one.

1008
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: But I will say, I know the Rams have kind

1009
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: of looked a little shaky the last few weeks, Right,

1010
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: you look a little shaky against against Detroit, and then

1011
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: you look a little shaky against the Tennessee Titans. And

1012
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: I get all that, but I've watched the San Francisco

1013
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers just lose to Colt McCoy. I'm sorry.

1014
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: I can't get past that. Dan, I just can't do it.

1015
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 2: I don't care where this game is. I don't care

1016
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: if they're playing this game on the moon San Francisco,

1017
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me. I think the Rams come

1018
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: back in a big way in this one and really

1019
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: stick it to the forty nine ers. And Jimmy Garoppolo

1020
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 2: has not played well nor his confidence level can be

1021
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: raised by Kyle Shanahan's postgame comments, which is, yeah, basically

1022
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 2: what Kyle shannan said was, yes, Jimmy Garoppolo played quarterback today.

1023
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: He was the quarterback. And you can't throw a lance

1024
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: to the Wolves either. That's not what you want to

1025
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: do in this game either. So you kind of stuck.

1026
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: And I think when you're kind of stuck he got

1027
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: debo kind of banged up to a bad situation here.

1028
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: I think the Rams get right. I think they will

1029
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: go back to the drawing board after a rough couple weeks,

1030
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 2: which might end up proving very well for them down

1031
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: the stretch and into the playoffs. If you're going to

1032
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 2: struggle as a team, struggle now, come out of the gate, strong,

1033
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 2: struggle in the middle, finish strong, good momentum in the playoffs.

1034
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: I still think the Rams are the most complete team

1035
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 2: in the NFL when you look at all those things.

1036
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: But I think right now they got to do a

1037
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: little soul searching and realize, hey, now everybody knows exactly

1038
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: who we are. They're gunning for us. We need to

1039
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: step it up a little bit. I think you'll see

1040
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: that in this in division game here against the forty

1041
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: nine ers.

1042
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think everything screams like obviously take

1043
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: the Rams in this one. Divisional games make me nervous jump.

1044
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie like it just does, especially with

1045
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: these two teams. I kind of actually, and maybe this

1046
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: is the wrong way to look at it, especially for me,

1047
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: where it's forty eight and a half at DraftKings, it's

1048
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: forty nine and a half. I think there is going

1049
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: to be some scoring here. I think you're gonna see

1050
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 1: the the Rams come out offensively and just be like, Okay,

1051
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: we need to get that taste out of our mouth

1052
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: right now, and we need to put up some points.

1053
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: And I do think that the Rams defense, I'm not

1054
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: gonna say it's overrated. I'm going to say that the

1055
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: strengths of the Rams defense, I don't know if they're

1056
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: really going to be able to match up perfectly with

1057
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: what the forty nine er do offensively. When you have

1058
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: all three of Brandon Aiyuk, Deebo Samuel and George Kittle healthy,

1059
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 1: I think that's going to really open up some lanes. Now,

1060
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: with another week back, I like the over here at

1061
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half. For me, forty nine and

1062
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: a half, generally speaking, I may wind up on the Rams,

1063
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: but I just like Joe with this on a Monday

1064
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,360
Speaker 1: night game, nationally televised game. Everything is telling you to

1065
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: take the Rams, and that's when I get nervous to

1066
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: take them, you know what I mean.

1067
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: Not a great offensive line though for the forty that's

1068
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: the other thing that's there. And you have Aaron Donald

1069
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: and you might have Von Miller finally playing in this

1070
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: game too. I think that, you know, he wasn't on

1071
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: the field this past week after they acquired him. I

1072
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: think I think they're gonna get to whoever the quarterback is,

1073
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: and probably gonna be Garoppolo, and I think that's going

1074
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 2: to cause the problems in this game. I think this

1075
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 2: is a game where the Rams show up a little

1076
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: bit more defensively, And you make a good point. I

1077
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: think the thing with the Rams just typically speaking, because

1078
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 2: of the structure of the team. You know how we

1079
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: talk in fantasy terms about stars and scrubs, that's kind

1080
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: of the Rams. Like the Rams are the guy who

1081
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,879
Speaker 2: went into the auction for players and when I want

1082
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald and I want Cooper Cup and Matt Stafford

1083
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: and stuff. But then when you get to the underbelly

1084
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: of the Rams, it's not as good in some of

1085
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 2: those other spots, and I think that's they're very up

1086
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: and down team sometimes because of that. But when the

1087
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: high pieces, the good pieces are playing so well, that's

1088
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: when the Rams are their best. And I think you're

1089
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: going to see a little bit more of that this week.

1090
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Speaker 1: I do think that if you if the Titans who

1091
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: again without Derek Henry, are not an explosive offense at

1092
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: this point. I think if the Titans had wanted to

1093
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 1: in that game, they could have put up two more

1094
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: touchdowns if they if they needed it, If they weren't

1095
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: playing in a positive games crip where they were just

1096
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: sort of trying to take drives, take time off and

1097
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: stuff like that, I think they could have. I think

1098
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: the Rams defense is definitely beatable by a scheme, especially

1099
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: with the way the forty nine ers run, where you're

1100
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: not having you know, Jalen Ramsey take out the number

1101
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: one wide receiver or anything like that, because you know,

1102
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: the average depth of target usually isn't really there. So

1103
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: I do think there are going to be points scored here.

1104
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm less certain about the spread, but you make some

1105
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: decent points, Joe, as you always do, and I appreciate

1106
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: you stopping by here making time for us. I'm not

1107
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Speaker 1: going to tell you you're on this podcast. You host

1108
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: the college football podcast. I'm not gonna have you remind

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00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 1: everybody where you can catch you, but you can guess.

1110
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Speaker 1: Joe here hosting the college football episode of this podcast,

1111
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: and of course over at Fantasy Pros doing a lot

1112
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: of stuff at Betting Pros as well, so that will

1113
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: be the next podcast that you hear from this few

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Speaker 1: think will be the College Football Podcast, and then I

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Speaker 1: will back later in the week. Give me your three

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Speaker 1: best NFL bets for Week ten. I will talk to

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Speaker 1: you again