WEBVTT - Exile w/ Aimée Spring Fortier 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:09.200 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:43.680 These are our stories done done. 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.440 Yay, that's messed up an SVU podcast. 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.599 I am your host, Liza Trigger and I am your 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.840 other host, Kara Klank. And you know what we do here. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.040 We recap SVU episodes, talk about the true crime they're 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:45.680 based on, and interview fun guests, and up top we 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.960 just chit chat about the world melting around us. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:51.120 But today I'm. 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:57.240 Happy because it's Rosie's birthday. Oh my god, yeahild how 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:01.480 old is she now? Six today? That's like a grown 0:01:01.560 --> 0:01:02.160 US woman. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:06.160 I know, she's a full woman with like in control 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:10.080 of herself. It's crazy, she I was, that's the firstcrap 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:12.880 like this. Yeah, she's about to just like be doing 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:13.680 long division. 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.759 I know she's like reading shit like I can't spell 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.000 shit in front of her anymore. 0:01:19.400 --> 0:01:20.120 It's annoying. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:25.160 But yeah, she's really pumped. We're going to Lego Land 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.319 this weekend. As I've mentioned, thank you for those of 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:29.360 you that have sent me tips. I think I'm just 0:01:29.480 --> 0:01:34.120 honestly gonna go in kind of blind, but she got 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.920 to open one present this morning. We got her a 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.760 sleepy squash mallow if you know, you know, they're like 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.759 bigger squash mallows that are like asleep because you're supposed 0:01:43.800 --> 0:01:45.440 to kind of like cuddle them while they're sleeping. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:46.280 What animal. 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:50.160 It's the red Panda from Turning Red, which isn't even 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:52.040 a movie that she likes that much, but she loves 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:55.800 red pandas. And it was a gamble and Jared told 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:57.720 me to go. He's like, she'll love the red Panda, 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:59.320 and he was right. She was like, this is my 0:01:59.440 --> 0:02:02.040 best bird. They present like. She loved it so much. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.040 She demanded balloons first thing in the morning. But like, 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.240 by the way, the regular rubber balloons that were like 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:11.320 used to those like only stay afloat for nine hours. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.680 I thought that they had a longer shelf life, So 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.880 I had to shell out for the metallicky ones because 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.040 they last a week and she wanted them in the morning. 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:22.560 And a couple years ago I tried to do that 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.880 for her and they were all on the ground and 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:26.960 it was embarrassing. So she got some cute balloons. She 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.519 got a little stuffy. She's having a little pizza to night. 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.519 From where her favorite restaurant, Dominoes or what I mean. 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.560 Honestly, she's become like such a she does now she 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.959 thinks the sauce at Dominoes is too spicy, but she's 0:02:40.000 --> 0:02:42.600 obsessed with getting it because she likes the garlic knots. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.440 She likes the little like bread knots or whatever. She'll 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:49.239 eat seven of those, like in a sitting. It's really yeah, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.799 six years old and no sign of the picky eating 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:53.840 a bathing anytime soon. 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.120 But so what else? What's is she doing? Like a 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.440 school party? Do people do that? Or you can't bring 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:01.640 anything sweet or not so or nothing, and everyone's just 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.160 licking ice together like the school party? 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:09.880 Like so true. Literally I am bringing her cupcakes later 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:11.919 to school. You're allowed to do it the last twenty 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:13.400 minutes of the day, so you come in at like 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.640 two ten until two twenty eight, Like it's like literally 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:21.080 eighteen minutes of birthday fun. And then it's supposed to 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.000 kind of be prepackaged, but the teachers like turn the 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:27.399 other cheeks so that you can, you know, bringing cupcakes. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.079 I didn't make them, I bought them, but still they're 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.760 supposed to be like packaged individually, you know, like I 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.200 bought them because of like nuts and shit like that. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:36.360 But they don't care. They don't care at this at 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:36.840 her school. 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:38.760 So so we're gonna do that, and then I have 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:40.480 to go get one. I do have to go get 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.640 a vegan donut for a child that is dairy free. 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.520 But I'm gonna go get it at Chapel Rohmee's former 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.400 place of business, Donut Friend, where she used to work. 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.320 But she really yeah, she used to work at Donut Friend. 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:54.320 Well, oh my god. They also got a bunch of 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.440 weren't they like union anti union. 0:03:56.800 --> 0:04:00.240 Yes, they're also a donut shop that opens at eleven am. 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.080 Wake up for selling donuts. It's Saturday morning. My kid 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.800 wants a donut. You're missing my business. But anyway, the 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.600 donuts are delicious, and I think they're all, if not all, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.119 most of them are vegans. So it's good for these 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:17.640 like dairy free kids. And yeah, that's so that's the birthday. 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.080 So no party like the Lego but no party the 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.040 Lego land is like the party. I mean tonight, we're 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.640 having like a couple of little pals over of like 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:29.039 her local like school friends over like two to have 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:32.000 pizza and cake and that's it. But Minecraft. The cupcakes 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.760 are Minecraft, the cake is Minecraft. Where Wow, a girl 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.240 and Stem. I can't believe it. Yeah, yeah, completely completely. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.760 Women in Stem. She's so into Minecraft and knows so 0:04:42.800 --> 0:04:44.000 little about it. It's wild. 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.520 We don't have like we don't play it, you know, 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.760 like we don't have a switch or anything. But or 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:50.039 I don't even know if that's where you play it. 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:54.680 But no, I think it's a computer game. I think, yeah, 0:04:54.760 --> 0:04:58.000 they start playing on computers. Yeah, oh, I just don't 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.720 think friend has a switch. But yeah, they were playing 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:03.240 it in Bama school. They were playing it in school 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.919 because it was on their school iPads. And I was 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:08.400 concerned because I was like, wait, it's not like a game, 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.400 like why is there a game? But I'm like, these 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.640 are la like usd iPads. They're obviously anything that goes 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.440 on them has to be approved. So there is an 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:19.560 educational version of Minecraft that was on there. But so 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.920 many parents wrote into the teacher to be like what's 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.000 going on that, she just said, forgot it. We're taking 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.880 the Minecraft off the iPads. 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.920 So they ruined it. So I do have Okay, So 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.159 when I mentioned the ice that reminded me. So I 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.880 got inside scooped from about a billionaire family. I'm not 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.720 going to name the family, but it's someone who works 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:41.080 within the billionaire family told a friend and they're basically 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:44.000 this person did not need to sign an NDA and 0:05:44.000 --> 0:05:47.560 then accidentally one time sent a text message talking shit 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.160 about how crazy the family is to the matriarch of 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:50.679 the family. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:52.680 Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. I'm 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:54.839 And the matriarch said, that's fine. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:56.599 We're rich enough that no one would ever hear this 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:58.200 or talk about it, and you could say whatever the 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.680 fuck you want about us. We have so much money. 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:04.000 Wouldn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. And she didn't care. 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.720 She didn't care, she didn't fire running still working with 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:10.120 this billionaire family. But the reason the ice reminded me 0:06:10.200 --> 0:06:13.640 of this story is because they only get their ice 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.520 from Norway or like the Netherlands or something like that, 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:22.440 and it's in circle like spheres, and it's shipped, and 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:27.000 during pandemic, they were like contacting like the authorities to 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.080 make sure the flights of their private ice was continued 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:34.440 to be brought to the States. Oh my god. Yeah, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:36.760 they need a circle ice, which is a joke in 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:40.520 this episode Rosebud of The Simpsons about like these guys 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.720 in Antarctica they bring the ice to the Quickie Mart 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.880 and they're like, we lost three men on this trip 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.360 and a Pugo's well, if you can tell me a 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:49.200 better way to make ice, I'd like to hear it. 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:56.440 But yeah, even in pandemic they demanded the ice be 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.479 flown in cross country for them. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.000 That's I mean, it must get to a point where 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.760 you're so rich that you're honestly just challenging yourself to 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:04.200 come up with. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:09.080 Ways to the kids don't flush their own toilets. Staff 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.640 does it for them? What? And this person is inn 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:15.360 like one of these children is in government, in a 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:20.640 high position in government. Yeah my god, yeah, oh my 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.400 fucking I mean, we know eat the rich for sure, 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.120 but like, I just don't understand how we continuously have 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.160 rich people being in charge of stuff when they're so 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.800 disconnected from humanity or how things work. Like it's weird. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.000 I heard they're coming after meals on wheels. I'm like, 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:35.920 what is wrong with you guys? 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.960 Yeah, Like I'm sorry if you if you go to 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:40.880 like if you're a billion like you could go to 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.480 like the oscars, or you could go to whatever, So 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:45.880 you have to flush the toilet at other places outside 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:46.360 of your home. 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.600 I hope they like know how to do it. I 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.520 bet their's security does it when they're out and about 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:51.200 who knows. 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.920 Oh my god, who knows. So it must be a prison. Honestly, 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:55.760 it must be a prison. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.960 We're watching White Love. We're thrilled. You know, I've never 0:08:02.000 --> 0:08:03.960 heard of carry Coon to save my fucking life, and 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:05.720 this bitch I'm looking at photos of her in the 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.400 nineties on red carpets. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this bitch 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:11.200 has been working for decades and I have She would 0:08:11.200 --> 0:08:12.760 always show up in my little movie games, and I 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.800 would always be a little bit annoyed. Yeah, I don't 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.360 know who that. I don't know who that'ss. 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:20.280 The first time I discovered her was as Ben Affleck's 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.640 sister in Gone Girl, and I was like, oh my god, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.320 And I was like, who is it. She's like very 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.640 chameleony like, her look is very chameleon like. She can 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:32.160 really I think she changes how she And I was like, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:35.040 how did this random actress Carrie Kon get this part 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.080 in this big movie? You know, because I've never heard 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:39.640 of her before, but obviously she's been doing shit forever, 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.400 and then the Leftovers brought her into a lot of 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.200 people's consciousness, and then yeah, she's just been in and 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:48.640 then Gilded Age now people love I mean I don't. Yeah, 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:50.760 I was about to say we should get into Gilded Age. 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.600 Yeah. Oh my god. Wait, I have to show you something. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.200 I have to grab it from my suitcase. I do 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.320 not care. Someone in Minneapolis brought me a present that 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.720 I have to show you. But also this is the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:05.800 person and that made the ceramic Martha Plimpton, Pinky Weed banker. Yes, 0:09:06.120 --> 0:09:10.400 O got it. Okay, give me one second, go ahead. 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:13.480 Oh my god, Okay, I'm trying to imagine what this is. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:18.839 Okay, are you ready? Oh my god? 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.760 Okay, wait, okay, wait, I mean I have to like 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.520 take a screenshot of you holding it up so that 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.559 we can put this on the Instagram. Okay, just for 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.840 those of you that maybe don't follow us on Instagram 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:30.800 because you hate us. 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:32.720 It's literally is it a T shirt? 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.600 Is it as a T shirt that has read me 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.520 my Miranda writes, And it's got a picture of fucking 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:39.920 Cynthia Nixon. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.560 As why am I thinking, Dottie whatever? It's story. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:51.280 Yeah, the bottom oh my Janice Dory, Petra Bert, doctor 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:55.880 Young and Tammy. Yes, the woman with the multiple personalities 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.920 from the episode that Cynthia Nixon is it. And in 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:07.720 parentheses it says Miranda, Miranda, I'm getting it framed. I'm 0:10:07.720 --> 0:10:10.440 putting it in a fucking but yeah, I'm not. Yeah, 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.000 you got to put that in a light box or 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.240 something or what our shot at whatever they're called. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.439 Well, that's amazing. 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:19.080 You guys, honestly always come through with the wildest gifts. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.120 Well game. When Minneapolis has some of the best weed 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.840 of head in the country, it's actually too strong. It's 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.439 like too strong. It's like too Indica maybe leaning. I 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.560 don't know it like would It's been knocking me the 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:29.640 fuck out. It's crazy. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.760 Wait, that's so funny because I feel like we had 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:34.560 listeners at the last time we did when we did 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:35.600 our show in Minneapolis. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.880 Oh really, Kara, Yeah, they gave us the weed we 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.080 got too fucked up. And I'm on stage and I 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.640 mentioned that they were in the front row of my 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:44.400 stand up show. Oh my god, they go, we gave 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:47.000 you the weed. I'm like in the glitter container. They go, yeah, 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:47.480 And they. 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.400 Were the ones that said, by the way, that weed 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.160 in Minneapolis is really strong, and we were both like, okay, 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:56.119 I'm sure, yeah, and then we walked. 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:57.800 To a restaurant we had reservations at. They said do 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.040 you have a reservation, and at the same time we went, no, 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:03.200 do you don't remember that? Yeah? And then I got 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:04.920 an email from Open Table being like, why didn't you 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:06.440 guys make it? And I had to send a photo 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.640 of the fucking carrots and I was like, we were there. 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:12.200 Wait, yes, but this is oh my god, yes, yes, 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.520 oh my god. Yeah, we were so high. We didn't 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:17.840 we didn't. We went to a reservation. We made a 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.920 reservation at a place, went to it and both said no, 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:22.920 we don't have a reservation. And then Open Table contacted 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:24.600 me and was like, why didn't you show up for 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.719 your reservation. I'm like, it was me, how dare you? 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.920 I made a plate of carrots. I was there, the bugs, 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:36.240 bunny carrots. Wait, but you just said something that sparred opens. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.120 Oh. So I started watching this YouTube show. I mean, 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:43.520 it has like four million subscribers. It's not new, but 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:47.920 it's mystical kitchen or mythical but it's last Meals and 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.280 it's just celebrities doing press and you know, talking about 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.240 the last meal they would eat. But Trixy Mittel was 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.040 just on and she picked Jimmy John's veggie sandwich for 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:00.720 one of her options, a girl after my own, So 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.880 that was exciting, Yeah, because that's all I ate in Minneapolis. Unfortunately, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.400 I'm sure you guys have a lot to offer, but 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:08.880 I just had a sandwich each day from the JJ. Well. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:11.560 I was actually just listening to Trixy's podcast and they 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.960 were talking about how she's really sad her bar that 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.640 she owned is closing, and how all these gay bars 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.080 are closing, and like, you know, it's just very sad. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.400 And I was thinking that I'm going to be in Sarasota, 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.360 Florida for the the finale of Drag Race, and I 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:30.160 need any listeners who live in the Sarasota Bradenton area 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.760 to let me know where I can watch drag Race 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.360 because I googled it and I got a place called 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.120 Purple Rhino that has no website and no social media presence, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.760 and I'm a little bit too scared, I think to 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:41.640 just go there. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:44.280 Oh yeah, because that's a dark windows spot that are 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:47.920 like sucking dick in the back. Yeah, oh god, yeah, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:48.640 purple rhino. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.320 Yeah, I don't know, that sounds like like the that 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.120 sounds like the cock you know. 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:57.840 Yeah, yeah, not for you. Yeah, that's not a watch party's. 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:00.480 I mean, Sarrisota is a really old It's like a 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.760 really old place, like it's everybody's very old. So I 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:07.360 would imagine that it's just not got a lot of stuff. 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.080 But I like, I would really I really love watching 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.520 the finale in a bar with other people. So if 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.000 anyone has the scoop, let me know. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.320 I mean, were we crying at the family episode or 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:18.520 where are we at? Oh? 0:13:18.679 --> 0:13:24.600 Yeah, I was just like they're all they all have 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:27.760 such supportive parents. It's so cool now Like there used 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.080 to just be days where like it was your sister 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:32.480 coming in or like someone you know, and now it's 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:35.679 like like they're all so young that like their parents 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:39.040 are mostly all cool and if they haven't always been cool, 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:39.880 like they've become cool. 0:13:39.960 --> 0:13:40.240 Yeah. 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:45.600 Like but I was glad that, uh you know, I'm glad. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.559 Who who's going on? Who's moving on? I guess, but 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.960 I guess someone's going to go home next week. Yeah, 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.120 but it's like a fun season, Like I'm into it. 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:55.840 The pit stop's been fun, like everything's fine. Oh speaking, 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.880 you know, I saw Peppermint recently, No big deal. Rgeous 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:03.000 pep survive the Thickest and just got married. That's on 0:14:03.040 --> 0:14:04.120 the show. That's on the show. 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.240 Oh my god? Why is it all over people? I 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.960 think it's a promotional tool. But wouldn't it be weird 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.120 that Bob wasn't in Peppermint's wedding. That's true, that would 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:14.640 be weird, Yeah ashell was. 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:17.040 But what I thought was weird was that it's on 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:20.160 all of these It's probably I think people are being 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:21.280 fooled because. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:26.000 It's on all of these. But the ACTA pages. 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.960 That I follow, yeah, no, that's all These gay pages 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.720 that I follow are like Peppermint Sealed, the tied the 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.520 knot and Peppermin's playing Peppermint. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.600 So it's tough. It's tough. Okay, got it? Got it? 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:40.400 I read character name Peppermint. 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.480 I well, did I tell you about the huge dupe 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:45.920 that I got really quickly before you tell your Peppermint story? 0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.240 You know how Yasser Lester like it? 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:50.480 Right? 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:55.000 Well? Yeah, he writes like fake posts. Someone in one 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:58.480 of my Bravo groups that I'm on on Facebook took 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:02.360 the one he posted about j Trump giving Jenshaw early parole, 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:04.600 and she posted it in the mom group and I 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:06.320 didn't even see that it had anything from yos and 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.600 not the mom group, the Bravo group, and I didn't 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.400 see that it had anything from Yoser on it. 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.000 So I like put it in a group. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.120 Chat and they were like, are you referencing Yaser's fake post? 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.120 And I was like, oh my god, I'm so embarrassed. Now. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.080 April Fools got me on social media multiple times. I 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.640 was this wasn't even as oh, because I was scrolling 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.600 through things and being like I can't believe it. And 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.440 at the end I was like, you fucking idiot, and 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.800 I was like, I am an idiot. I don't get sarcasm, 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:35.000 and I don't get April Fools. I will believe you 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:36.840 because I don't know why you would lie to me. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.240 This happened in audiences when you're trying to do crowd 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:40.720 work and then they'll say something and you go off 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.040 of it and they're like I'm kidding. I'm like, oh, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:44.120 a lie is actually not a joke. Yeah, there's a 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.200 little more skill involved, and that's why people, especially dating 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.800 apps and stuff where they're like sarcasm, I'm I'm I'm 0:15:49.800 --> 0:15:53.160 good at sarcasm. I'm like, it's truly just lying. There's 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.640 no skill involved in any capacity. And it's pretty embarrassing 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:01.320 to be honest. I would say to for your humor 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:04.680 profile to be sarcasm means you're just an idiot. Oh 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.320 for it to just be sarcasm for sure, to write 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:11.040 that on a dating app, I'm so sarcastic. I speak 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:15.080 my only second language is sarcasm. But no audiences will 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:16.600 be like, oh, I'm married. I'll be like, oh blah 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.480 b and they're like, I'm kidding. It's the fun, that's 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.720 not what's the game that? How would I know? I 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:22.320 don't know you. 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:26.280 There's hundreds of people sitting here like what what goal 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:26.840 did you have? 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:31.480 I just I really hate sarcasm. And I there's one 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.560 guy at the seller, one comic who's always saying shit 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.000 and I go off of it. He's like, it's I'm 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.480 being sarcastic. I go, yeah, why would you be at 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.680 the stame? I don't understand, and I think it's the 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:44.720 Soviet in me, but it's truly like it bothers. Yeah, 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:45.520 that's so funny. 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.680 Because my friend was like having her son evaluated and 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.320 they were like, does he get sarcasm? And he's only four, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.200 so she was like not really, and then she goes, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.080 I was thinking about you because Rosie will say shit, 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.560 like really, mom, another glass of wine. Like She'll like 0:17:01.200 --> 0:17:03.720 she's literally so sarcastic that I'm like. 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.880 Yeah, but that's funny. That's not a lie. I guess 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.840 it's a developmental Yeah. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.560 I don't think that's sarcasm, even because you are getting 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:11.080 more wine. 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:16.080 It's not a lie, it's a comment. I just don't 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.399 like when people think lying is humor. Yes, I agreed. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:21.679 Did you like that? 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:22.560 No? 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.320 Okay, so you did not. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.840 I don't understand why you're doing this, like it just 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:34.040 it really it drives me insane. Wait, so tell me 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:37.119 about the Peppermint party. You were talking you were gonna saint. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:39.919 I saw one celebrity that I should. 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:44.200 I just get so starstruck sometimes, like I actually because 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:48.000 Quentin Tarantino speaking shows up in my YouTube shorts all 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.600 the time, Like I just really like him, and so 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.320 I'm always watching him talk about movies and stuff. And 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.440 he I was sitting next him at the comedy store. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.480 I went up I killed it, and instead of going 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.119 back and say with him, I left. And then I 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.640 heard all night that he was talking with everyone drinking, 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.680 and it kills me, like it kills me. I think 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:09.520 about it all the time, Like how did I not 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.600 then make Mikey Madison Mickey Madison or whatever was doing 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.560 an interview, how like how hard she worked on that 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.439 audition for once upon a time because it was like 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.280 her one shot with Quinton And I'm like, I had 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.080 my one shot and I did not take it, and 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:25.200 it haunts me, and so I've been trying, Like when 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:26.879 I saw Leslie Bibb and I was like, I have 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.199 to take this moment, you know, and I fucking did 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:34.080 it again. And Sandra Bernhardt was at Michelle's premiere, made 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.800 eye contact, I smiled, and I just kept on talking 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:38.040 to me. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.360 But she's like she's in tim. I would be intimidated 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:44.600 to say something to her too, like she's a legend, 0:18:44.760 --> 0:18:47.960 and like what if she just told you to fuck off? 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:49.480 Like I mean, I don't know, I think she like ma, 0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:50.960 I think I got to if I just went up 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.119 to her and go, you know, I saw you at 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:55.800 City Winery in twenty twelve, or like Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.399 I'm obsessed with you and every way like Roseanne, I 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:01.240 love you and watch What Happens Live like King of Comedy, 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.119 like this bitch is an icon and hopefully I'll be 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:06.640 able to meet her again. But it is just like, God, 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.040 you fucking fool. Why didn't I go up to her? 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.639 I get that, but it's so funny, so Yancey who 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.159 does hair? Like all these people kept coming up to 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.280 me at the premiere talking about watch What Happens Live 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.480 because that's what I was talking about on the set 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.360 of Survival of the Thickest in July. I was like, yeah, 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:24.760 I tap'm the special. All I need to do is 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.000 get on watch what Happens Live. And so everyone kept coming. 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:30.119 Up to me and be liked it, and I was like, 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:33.439 that was crazy. How like on brand I am at 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:35.439 all times? You manifested it. 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:35.960 Yeah. 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:38.800 Wait, I forgot the Carrie Coon of it all the 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.840 reason I wanted to bring it up. Look, you see 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:43.800 what you were caught up when when the girls are 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:45.879 like telling each other their flaws and they're like telling 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:48.480 carry Kon's character like you have a shitty life because 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:49.720 of you, Like stop blaming people. 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.359 Yeah, this reaction shot. I'm like, this is an actor, like. 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:57.879 I am obsessed with I'm just like obsessed with her 0:19:57.960 --> 0:19:59.480 right now I can't And then like, how about that 0:19:59.640 --> 0:20:02.600 Terri Fine shot where she's jumping out the window. Everybody's 0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.080 like meming that shot of her, Like when she jumps 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:06.840 out like the window and she's just hanging there for. 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.720 A second, and she's like, Oh, that's not terrified because 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:12.560 of our crimebacker. I was just like, oh my god, 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.040 she's alone in the dark streets. My god, don't get 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.480 in the cab, you know. I was like, yeah, fucking I. 0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:19.760 Was like, get out of there, get out of there, 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:20.239 get out of there. 0:20:20.320 --> 0:20:23.560 Yeah, but for next week. Oh so I did a 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.320 show last night at Barney Grengrass, which is like a 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:28.320 deli on the Upper West Side. Yeah, and they had 0:20:28.400 --> 0:20:31.760 lot He's delicious. But then someone was a purist. They're like, 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.639 they're deep fried, you can't compare him. I'm like, no 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:35.920 one's comparing them. I got You're you're having a fight 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:37.320 in your own head that no one's a part of. 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:40.159 Like I like my pan fried by my mom, and 0:20:40.200 --> 0:20:42.000 I like these deep fried ones at this place that 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:44.440 are free with a bowl of sad. No, Barney green 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.600 Grass is like a famous institution. Oh yeah, I believe 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:53.240 that's where Tina Fey is having lunch with John Hamm 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:56.080 in thirty Rock when he is the guy that's so 0:20:56.160 --> 0:20:58.040 hot that he doesn't know that people ever say no 0:20:58.119 --> 0:20:59.879 to you about stuff, and he goes, can I get 0:20:59.920 --> 0:21:02.520 a catfish poh boy and a grape soda or something 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.520 like that, and they're like sure, because. 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:06.800 He's so hot. Anyway, that's what I always think of it. 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:08.480 But I've been to I've eaten at Barney green Grass. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.680 It's good. It's great. Yeah it was, and it was 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.720 a new fucking show. Thrilled to be there. But the 0:21:13.760 --> 0:21:16.360 boy runs this show. Boy, he's twenty four, but it's 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.280 a boy. Or we're like grown women. It's so funny. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:20.840 But everyone thinks I'm a lot younger than I am, 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.399 because I remember when I told him how old I was, 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:26.000 he was shocked. But I'm like, yea, I'm not an intern. 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:29.000 I have a real life. Can you not tell him 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:32.679 a grown woman? Okay? But anyways, his great friend, his 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:38.439 really close friends godfather is the Gilgo Beach murderer. His 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.120 good friend's godfather, Oh my god. Yeah, like they saw 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:43.480 the news and I guess he called his zad and 0:21:43.560 --> 0:21:45.439 was like, did you are you seeing this? 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:49.679 I think we had a listener who was like, I 0:21:49.800 --> 0:21:52.240 used to work with him, Yeah we did, we did, Yeah, 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:52.840 I remember. 0:21:52.880 --> 0:21:54.080 That's so crazy. 0:21:54.320 --> 0:21:59.680 So yeah, there's a new Netflix series on him, and 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.560 you know, I'm interested to watch it because they've they've 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:04.360 caught him. 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.560 So we covered it when he was on the LAMB. 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:12.119 It's called it's called Gone Girls. It's called Gone Girls at. 0:22:12.040 --> 0:22:16.360 Gone Girls, okay, and if you're Gone Girls, the Long 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:19.800 Island serial Killer and I believe Daydream Believer is the 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:23.720 episode that we covered that case in, which is when 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.720 we talked to Dallas Roberts. 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:31.160 And now with like more and more, I keep thinking 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:36.200 about that criminologist of like to decrease serial killing and murders, 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.080 we need to be better to sex workers, we can't 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.880 have homophobia, and we need to protect the elderly. And 0:22:41.920 --> 0:22:45.720 it's just like now, every time someone comes up, I 0:22:45.760 --> 0:22:48.320 think about well I always think about it, but he 0:22:48.440 --> 0:22:49.800 just made it so concise. 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:55.440 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, well we should. 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.879 Yeah, we got to get started. I mean, yeah, we 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.680 barely talked about Luigi. But because it's sad. I mean 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:04.920 I did donate to the legal fund. The I think 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.600 a lot of people donated yesterday. I think they made 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.520 like fifty grand or something yesterday, but I did donate 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:13.760 to his legal fund. Yeah, the death penalties on the table. 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:18.440 What's so crazy is that this Attorney general that that's 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.080 her Instagram debut, like her first post ever is about 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.360 this Luigi thing, and then I just saw it here. 0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:27.040 So they are there are going for the death penalty. 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:29.840 It's fucked up. As Laura made a great statement, it's 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.080 just sad, you know, it's just like sad. But it's 0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.240 just like, yes, I'm worried about that, but I just 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.399 can't stop thinking about these people that were sent to 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.200 El Salvador and there's no way to get them back. 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.679 And the accidents not accidents, family people. Gangs are not 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:43.200 getting like who cares? So you were in a gang 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:44.440 at seventeen? What the fuck? 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.280 I just read a story of a guy who escaped 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:49.760 gangs because the gangs wanted him in El Salvador. 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:50.919 He escaped to the US. 0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.600 He was he was put on a thing by a 0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:57.200 judge that said if he's ever deported for up with cause, 0:23:57.600 --> 0:24:00.560 it cannot be to El Salvador. He's in all Salvador 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.639 like and that they they're you know, yeah, they don't 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:07.080 care about people, don't the law is over like I mean, 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:12.480 but I will also say with just to sprinkle a 0:24:12.520 --> 0:24:15.280 little bit of hope in that fucking judge in Wisconsin. 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:15.640 One. 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:17.800 But this is what I'm talking about. One. 0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:19.520 I'm like, I don't want to know about the judges 0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:22.320 in Wisconsin. I want to be a dumb bitch like 0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:25.320 this is what happens every time, just getting just like 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.320 it's just amble though simple. 0:24:28.720 --> 0:24:30.800 I'm pissed. I don't want to know about these people. 0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:33.320 I know, I know, but it is like symbolic that 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:36.040 like people are not choosing, like the money, you know, 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.280 like the money could not buy the election, which is 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:38.840 really good. 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:43.000 And also Cory Booker on the floor of the Senate. 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:46.679 Yesterday for twenty five hours, pretty fucking impressive, broke a record, 0:24:47.440 --> 0:24:49.360 wore a diaper, I guess, I mean, how the fuck 0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:50.840 do you not pee for twenty five hours? 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.320 I want to meditate and like prep like. 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:56.240 Prep for it and just don't drink any fluid. So 0:24:56.480 --> 0:24:58.680 you're just like trying to a little bit because you're talking, 0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:00.960 how are you talking, Yeah, like how is your mouth 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:01.760 making saliva? 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.200 I don't know. I don't know how he fucking did that. 0:25:04.400 --> 0:25:07.600 But you know, it's like people were saying, like, you know, 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.240 the Democrats are not like united and it's very fractured 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:13.600 and hopeless, and you know, I feel like that was 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:16.280 a couple of nice things happened in two days. Now. 0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:17.920 I'm very happy about the super Court. And it was 0:25:17.960 --> 0:25:21.520 like a big percentage gap as well. No, I have 0:25:21.680 --> 0:25:24.000 a I know a gay man in his like who's 0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.000 about to be sixty or is he sixty five? Yeah? Whatever? 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.760 I know a gay man in his sixties. Parents didn't 0:25:29.760 --> 0:25:32.040 speak to him for something like decades, didn't speak to 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:33.760 him because he was gay, Like has lived here since 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:37.280 the eighties, like truly trauma, trauma, but he's been there 0:25:37.280 --> 0:25:39.320 with his family. They're all so trumpy, they're praying for 0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:42.320 him all the time, like insane. And in his birthday 0:25:42.359 --> 0:25:46.520 card this year, his dad wrote, you were right. And 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:50.119 so he's like in terms of that type of person 0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.280 who for decades has been a maniac in that and 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.960 or a conservative whatever saying that he goes that's huge 0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:00.720 And it's mostly about the veterans. Yeah, it's about the 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.440 veterans stuff and the VA and all the jobs and 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.240 all of that, and so it's like if someone like 0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:07.680 that can turn but it's like it is a cult. 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:10.680 It is slow. I don't know, but that is our hope. 0:26:10.800 --> 0:26:14.200 Is these people get so fucked over. I guess yeah. 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.920 I mean in that have like the guns and nothing 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:17.320 to lose. 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.840 I'll definitely broach a conversation with my parents when he 0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.920 tries to run for a third term and be like, 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:24.600 was this is this part? Is this? 0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:24.879 What you? 0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:25.399 This is it? 0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:28.120 Have you been sending them articles? What's their vibe? They're 0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:30.359 still happy. I don't get these people out. No, we 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.040 don't speak about it at all, but I'll be. 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:35.600 Interested to see because I have to stay at their 0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:37.480 house a little bit over the summer for like a 0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.400 little a little bit, and I really can't stand Fox News, 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:42.440 but it is their house. 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:46.320 So I don't know. I don't know how it's gonna work. 0:26:46.520 --> 0:26:48.800 I'm anticipating some friction. 0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:51.160 But I mean I'm you know, what I keep getting 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.040 in my for you page is this guy who started 0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:56.639 a podcast and he just talks to his trumpy parents 0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.560 about like different shit. Casey's nodding you've seen this. It's 0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:03.720 called like the Hard Conversation or something like that, but 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:06.840 it is it's like cult like like they true, it's 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:09.560 like talking to cult people. I mean, it's like we 0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.640 just covered an episode about like young sex workers where 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.800 they're just like where she's just like no. 0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:16.239 No, I love him, I love him, I love my love. 0:27:16.320 --> 0:27:19.639 It's like the same vibe, you know, Like he's this 0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.440 guy's like rationally telling his parents about like you know, 0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.119 where did you read that? And his mom will just 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:26.440 be like the internet, you know, like she doesn't know 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:28.320 where she's getting any sources. She doesn't know where she's 0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:28.960 finding anything. 0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:31.240 Like well, there's one woman I saw video she like 0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.720 works at NASA right, Like she's like a smart, rocket 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.400 fucking scientist, and her parents never listen to her about 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:39.360 climate nothing. And the one thing that made her dad 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:43.800 finally realize it was because the insurance companies, yeah, are 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.399 like switching their coverage and so if it fucks with 0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:49.080 the money, that means it's legit. Not your daughter who 0:27:49.119 --> 0:27:51.760 you raised, who's a rocket scientist. Yeah wait, did you 0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:53.360 tell me this already or someone else? 0:27:55.520 --> 0:27:55.760 Yeah? 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:58.760 No, But I feel like we've had this conversation before 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:02.200 but it's possible we have but anyway, Yes, I was like, 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:05.560 that's so crazy, Like he didn't believe it until he 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:06.879 followed the money, you know. 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:10.200 Yeah, I mean these people. Yeah, I guess. But I 0:28:10.200 --> 0:28:12.800 don't want my parents' social security to get like I 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.440 want him to suffer. But my perhaps like, we can't, 0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:16.480 I can't have it happen. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:21.920 Yeah, but let's just bask in the glory of this 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:25.879 one judge in Wisconsin winning And let's get started with 0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.119 today's episode. But that's messed up live dot com. You 0:28:29.160 --> 0:28:32.680 can scroll down to Lisa's link and see her tour dates. 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:33.600 She's on the road. 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:38.240 You can buy our merch you can get our promo codes. Yeah, 0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:45.239 happy birthday, Rosie. Let's get started, all right. We are 0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:49.840 doing Exile season twenty, episode six. 0:28:50.880 --> 0:28:55.400 Taylor coded Wait why why? Why? She has a song 0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.600 called exile oh with Bonnie Bear. Yeah. 0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:01.840 Oh, I don't even know about that one. But twenty 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.200 eighteen season twenty, Yeah I didn't. 0:29:04.240 --> 0:29:04.600 I didn't. 0:29:04.680 --> 0:29:07.440 I remembered this one, but it was like watching it anew. 0:29:08.200 --> 0:29:11.760 I have never seen this once in my fucking life. Oh, 0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.880 it was a brand new one for you. 0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:15.480 I did not if I did because I've watched them 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:18.640 at least all once, like it skipped my mind or 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.880 I was folding something because I don't have a fucking 0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:22.520 memory of this. 0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:26.880 It exiled from your mind, yes, which they used later 0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:27.680 in the episode. 0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.600 Wow Wow, I kind of love when that happens. It 0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:34.200 feels like, you know, I didn't know how anything was 0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:38.760 gonna play out, and I was interested in learning more 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:40.840 of the real thing, and so you all know, I 0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:42.520 had to read the New Yorker, Thank you. 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:47.120 I knew vaguely what was up, but I forgot the 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:51.160 full ending, so I was happy. Okay, So, a very 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:53.640 common opening on the show. A girl is walking on 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:55.800 a dark New York City street at night, and we 0:29:55.880 --> 0:29:57.719 can't tell if something bad has just happened to her 0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:01.160 or is about to tale as old as to it's raining, 0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.720 She's got a leather jacket over her head. She decides 0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:07.520 to go into a bar that's playing rock music. Cut 0:30:07.600 --> 0:30:10.959 to a more upscale establishment where Caresi and Stone are 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.880 finishing up beers. And that sounds like a boring hang 0:30:13.920 --> 0:30:16.000 to me. I'm not gonna lie those two just chatting. 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.200 That sounds boring. I don't want to I don't want 0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.239 to be like, down the bar from them, Caresey's got 0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:23.800 a bounce, and the hilarious Stone goes, I hope you've 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.560 got your arc parked outside. It doesn't even look like 0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:29.280 it's raining that hard, honestly from the opening footage, and 0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.200 Cresey's like, oh, if I don't leave now, I'm gonna 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:34.960 get any airfull. And you know, Stone's like, what's her name? 0:30:35.120 --> 0:30:37.880 And her name is Gina because he's talking about his sister, 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:41.440 And I guess Careese just bought a truck, and now 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.000 his sister thinks he's you haul. Where's he parking a 0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:46.280 truck in Queens anyway? I guess there's more spots in 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.240 Queen's anyway. Caresee goes, I love my sister, but I 0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:52.560 do sometimes wish she would just go away, which is 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:55.200 a very, very fucking harsh thing to say about a sibling. 0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.080 And then he opens his mouth and jams his foot 0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.360 all the way into it. Because dus stone sister suffers 0:31:01.360 --> 0:31:04.960 from schizophrenia and is institutionalized, he would love to be 0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.400 lugging her shit around New York City and he can't. 0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:11.000 So he immediately realizes he's stupid, and he's like, oh, 0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:13.600 I'm sorry, man, He's like, can't sell your Scotch, Let's 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:15.720 go get a burger, and Stone is like hard pass bro, 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:17.640 get the hell out of here. So Coreesy pays for 0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:19.840 drinks and then he leaves, and then a girl at 0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.600 the bar starts I fucking Stone, and you know, he 0:31:23.760 --> 0:31:25.600 kind of like looks down and we don't know what's 0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.760 going to happen. Back to our gal from earlier, she's 0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.320 in the bathroom at this slut. He's what I think 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.160 Stone is a slut. Yeah, yeah, he's and he gets 0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:41.160 out yeah yeah yeah, and he's doing it very robotically 0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:43.120 with no emotion I think as well. 0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:45.400 So anyway, yeah, our gal's in the bathroom. 0:31:45.600 --> 0:31:49.440 She's it's one of the bathrooms like at More. You 0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:51.600 don't really see this at regular bars. Is usually at 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.560 like when I go to drag shows, they always have 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:57.200 an attendant at like bigger clubs and stuff, and you 0:31:57.240 --> 0:32:00.360 know where they've got mints and hairspray and and this 0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:02.360 girl's like drying her hair in the hair dryer. She's 0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:05.240 applying a little scent. She puts on a lipstick. She 0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:06.920 looks in the mirror and she goes, it's as good 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.360 as it's gonna get and I'm like, okay, you seem fun. 0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:11.880 And then back in the bar, these two dudes are 0:32:11.920 --> 0:32:16.560 playing darts and they are talking about pagasms, and I 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:19.400 don't even know what the fuck they're talking about, so 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.400 I'm obviously googling it. But you know, this show tries 0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.480 to talk about what's being talked about in the moment, 0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:27.520 and so this came out end of twenty eighteen. I 0:32:27.920 --> 0:32:31.400 am reading that twenty eighteen. Twenty nineteen, there started to 0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.440 be a bunch of stuff about peagasms making the round, 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:37.480 and it's where women hold their pea on purpose to 0:32:37.680 --> 0:32:39.920 like let it go and they have an orgasm because 0:32:39.960 --> 0:32:43.080 it feels so good. And like this other doctor, this 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.400 doctor I read a quote from, was like, yeah, obviously, 0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:48.280 like women's anatomy, if your bladder is full, it could 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.479 put pressure on other parts of your body, which can 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:51.640 include the glitterists. 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:53.840 But other women were saying. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.560 No, we don't actually do We don't hold our pee 0:32:56.640 --> 0:33:00.080 because we want to have an orgasm. We like, we 0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.760 have to hold our p for a variety of reasons, 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.160 and then this happens and we're worried something's wrong with us. 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:06.480 So it's like doctors are telling them no, like this 0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:10.280 is normal. But also they're very much recommending do not 0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.560 do this on purpose. Do not hold your pee in 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:15.480 to have an orgasm. You will get some kind of 0:33:15.520 --> 0:33:17.680 fucking uti. I'm sure that is a kink. 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:20.320 Is there are people who want to watch people have 0:33:20.480 --> 0:33:23.440 to go pee but can't find the bathroom. It's like, 0:33:24.000 --> 0:33:26.480 that's like a kink. Yeah, it's like watching someone really 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:29.480 have to pee but not be able to. Oh, God, 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:33.600 like stressful searching for it. Oh that's my opposite. I'm 0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.320 the opposite of that kink. I'm like find it, like, 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:37.480 come here, pee in this cup. 0:33:37.640 --> 0:33:42.960 Like anyway, Guy one is telling Guy to all about pagasms, 0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.360 and Guy To like can't believe it. So Guy one 0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.400 pulls bathroom girl over and is like, hey, sweetheart, tell 0:33:48.480 --> 0:33:50.280 him I'm right. He doesn't even tell him what they're 0:33:50.320 --> 0:33:52.800 talking about. He just goes say I'm right, And so 0:33:52.920 --> 0:33:55.040 she uses the opportunity to get a shot of tequila 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.760 no salt out of him, which he obliges. So then 0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.280 she goes yes, and then number two walks away and 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.960 we can see that girly and guy number one are 0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.080 kind of vibing all right. Cut to Stone speaking of 0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.479 vibing making out in a stopped cab in the back, 0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:14.160 like just a scandalo, and he's like, you know, they're 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.360 obviously in front of her place, and he goes, I 0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.480 can't and she goes, I know you're old, but you'd 0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.600 only have to climb two flights, which is such a 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.839 fucking read for a guy that you're actively trying to fuck, 0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:29.680 Like it's really a read. And then he goes, I'm 0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.960 just using you, and he's like to forget and she's like, cool, 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.320 I'm using you for sex, Like let's go. Like you know, 0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.160 it's like they're from such different generations, these two people. 0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:42.120 Like he's like, I'm not I can't marry you. She's like, 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:43.839 I just want to fuck. Get up to my house. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.080 And then we don't know if he's going to get 0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:47.520 out of the cab because she gets out and she's 0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.760 like are you coming, and we just see him like paused, 0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:54.200 and we don't know. Hard cut to the girl from 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.160 the bar on a stretcher with a head wound. She's 0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.520 in an alley by several dumpsters and it's an morning. 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:02.960 This night at the bar did not go great for her. 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.560 Carese is running point. He's telling the unis to Canvas 0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:09.000 and then Benson shows up. As we talked about last 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.400 week and her workout gear. She's like, I was with 0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.080 my trainer when the call came in. I'm like, do 0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.280 you still pay for the session? Do you just finish 0:35:15.360 --> 0:35:17.040 up the last few reps? Or you run right there? 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:18.000 Like I don't know. 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.520 Trainers are expensive. Live like she just always has her 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.880 phone on. She's always so available. She cares about the 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.400 job so much. Anyway, Carise goes, I was with a 0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.040 bay of claw, That's what I mean. Like, this man 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.160 is gonna have a heart attack before he's fifty years old, 0:35:30.280 --> 0:35:33.520 like the way like Rudnick told him, you cannot keep 0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:34.160 eating like this. 0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:36.680 You know, every time we see him, he's like, can 0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:38.080 I got an egg and cheese on a bit? 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.799 You know, Like he's just he's he's really like out there, 0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.400 but he is a thin person. I just would love 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.759 to see what his cholesterol says. Caresie says, Oh Vick 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.840 is still breathing, but low. Pul s dilated pupil the 0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:52.719 cleaning crew from the bar founder They found her leather 0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:55.480 jacket and a bloody some kind of like bloody pipe 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.160 or something near the body. But no purse, no idea, 0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:01.960 and it turns out no panties. And then Benson our 0:36:02.080 --> 0:36:06.200 label Queen goes, buddy left her Prada, and we know 0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:09.319 Benson knows labels, but like I'm like through the evidence bag, 0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.759 She's like, that's designer. Like I can tell, like she 0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.640 could just see that it's Prada, and so credits. Okay, 0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:18.200 now we're gonna walk and talk with the er doc. 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:22.520 It's the usual vaginal trauma. The kit tested positive for semen. 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.440 Blood alcohol was point one five plus she had THHC 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:28.320 in her system, so the doctor doubts she could consent. 0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.200 CARIESI and Benson go in to talk to her and 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.880 she has a gnarly gash on her head that looks 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:36.360 like stitched up or butterfly stitched up. 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:40.200 I really can't tell, and she says she has. She says, yeah, 0:36:40.360 --> 0:36:42.719 really is the word? Is the word for it? 0:36:42.880 --> 0:36:45.800 Yeah? It looks bad, yuck, And then she goes, I 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.840 feel like a herd of elephants did a two step 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:52.040 on my head. And it's just such a weird turn 0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.840 of phrase. I don't I've never heard that. It just 0:36:54.880 --> 0:36:56.920 seems like a weird thing to just throw out when 0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.279 you've just been attacked and your head is pounding and 0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:02.120 you're like, oh, elephants did the two step? Anyway, She 0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:04.840 admits she drank a lot. Her name is Grace. She 0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.200 tells live how she went to the bar to wait 0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:09.520 out the rain and some guys bought her a few 0:37:09.600 --> 0:37:11.719 drinks and that's all she remembers. She thinks one of 0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:13.800 them was Doug or Dave, and she's like, this is 0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:16.960 so unlike me, and they tell her, well, you also, 0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:18.920 we think you may have been sexually assaulted, and she's 0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:22.200 obviously very upset. Like I thought the actress in this 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.919 moment like Cat did a really great jot. Her face 0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:30.160 was like so like just changed when she hears that part, 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.480 and then liv tells her you're gonna get through this. 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.560 Can we call anyone for you? And she goes, oh 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.560 my god, you guessed it. 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.200 Tommy another we have got, Like Okay, when a listener 0:37:42.320 --> 0:37:43.840 first reached out to us at the beginning of this 0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.880 podcast and was like, there are so many characters or 0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:51.239 reference people referenced on SPU named Tommy, I was like, sure, okay, maybe, 0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:55.279 and now it's like undeniable, Like they use the name 0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:56.919 so much it feels like a joke. 0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.680 We have to like get to the bottom of it. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.920 I need to talk to Warren Light or somebody and 0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:04.440 be like, what is what the Tommy? 0:38:04.520 --> 0:38:07.480 It is so many people, and please resend me that 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:09.520 list if you're the listener that keeps the list, and 0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:12.239 hopefully you have this one on your list, because this 0:38:12.400 --> 0:38:15.800 girl's got a boyfriend named Tommy and that's her boyfriend. 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.440 But she doesn't want to call she doesn't want them 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.320 to call him. She's like, let me tell him, and 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.120 so Cariese's gonna drive her home now. Finn is at 0:38:22.160 --> 0:38:25.000 the Black Bunny Bar showing her picture to a bartender 0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.600 and he remembers for the bartender and he goes, yeah, 0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:29.920 she Waltz is in here and her designer duds with 0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:34.400 no intention of paying for a drink. And it's just like, 0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.040 first of all, no one says designer duds. Who's like 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:40.200 under seventy five. I think that's such a weird like duds, 0:38:40.280 --> 0:38:42.000 Like I'm never like I love your duds, Like no 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:45.120 one says that. But also, why does this make men 0:38:45.239 --> 0:38:48.200 so mad when women get free drinks? Like you're the bartender, 0:38:48.360 --> 0:38:50.719 like let people buy drinks for women, Like that's good 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.640 for your business and your tips. It's like, do you 0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:54.359 go to Vegas and get pissed when like a guy 0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.359 next to you is just like winning, I don't think. 0:38:56.480 --> 0:38:59.400 But they also don't do Like we talk about this 0:38:59.520 --> 0:38:59.799 a lot. 0:39:00.000 --> 0:39:02.200 It's not like they're like, Wow, these girls look thirsty 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:04.400 like they want something in return. 0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:06.719 Yeah you know, and then. 0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:11.520 You're let your parch babe, we gotta get you of 0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:16.279 a ca soda. Like they don't actually care. So it's like, yeah, 0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.520 sometimes the deal doesn't work out in your favor, and 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.479 that's what they're mad about fucking control for They're like, well. 0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:24.880 I bought you this, so do this, Like yeah, they 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.160 just don't. I can't. I can't. Just get back to 0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:29.279 the get back to the rape, get back to the case. 0:39:33.400 --> 0:39:36.400 He admits that he flirted like that, she flirted with 0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.120 him for a shot and he gave it to her, 0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:39.680 so it's like, oh, you're just like mad that she 0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:41.719 wasn't like interested in you for real, but you're a 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.400 bartender anyway. He knew that who she was talking to, 0:39:45.600 --> 0:39:47.960 and he goes, yeah, she was talking to Drew, He's 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.120 my dealer, And Finn's like, are you dumb? Like you 0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:51.960 remember I said I was a cop, right, And then 0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:56.080 the bartender goes, relax, bro, it's all legal. It's edible marijuana, 0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.600 and it's just so funny. It's like twenty eighteen. He 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.400 shows Finn what look like weed lollipops, as if a 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.880 Finn hasn't heard of edible weed, and also we had 0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.480 gummies in twenty eighteen. Like, I'm just confused, Like where 0:40:08.480 --> 0:40:11.200 the lollipop is? Have you ever had a weed lollipop? 0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:11.759 Are they good? 0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:12.080 Yeah? 0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:14.480 They're not. It's not real. This was before weed was 0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.560 legal in New York. I feel and they would have 0:40:16.680 --> 0:40:18.680 these trucks and they're not real, and I would be 0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.040 get I would like, I think I got swindled when 0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:24.799 I was young, and then I would never do it again. Okay, yeah, 0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:26.520 I just don't feel like they're real. But I do 0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:28.960 remember this lollipop, the vans of it all, like I 0:40:29.040 --> 0:40:31.480 do remember that. Oh okay, so this was a thing, 0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:34.279 all right, got it? Yeah? When she gets to the van, 0:40:34.360 --> 0:40:36.040 I was like, oh, yeah, I know these people. I 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:37.680 don't know how they get away with it. I feel 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:41.640 like I was tricked into not effective lollipops for a while. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.919 Yeah, because I can't. I left New York right because 0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:48.359 I bet does not respect this guy. Yeah, yeah, I left. 0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:51.279 I left New York like a few years before legalization. 0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:52.960 I remember coming back and being like, what is with 0:40:53.040 --> 0:40:55.560 all these weed shops that like don't actually sell weed? 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.280 This is so weird. But I don't remember the trucks. 0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:01.640 I just remember like actual shops, Like I don't get it. 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.720 But now there's now I guess they were just setting 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.880 the stage because now it's legal. Anyway, he shows these 0:41:07.960 --> 0:41:11.160 dumb fucking lollipops, and yeah, Finn's not impressed, and he's like, 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:13.880 where's I needed to know where Drew Parks's truck. So 0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:16.440 Drew is guy number two from the bar, the guy 0:41:16.480 --> 0:41:20.480 who walked away after the piagasm bet or whatever. And 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:25.360 he's got rice, Crispy treats, brownies, lollipops, everything's organic. 0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:26.440 I grow it in my backyard. 0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:28.440 I'm like in New York City, where it's like freezing 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:31.200 half the year, you grow weed in your backyard. Anyway, 0:41:31.320 --> 0:41:33.560 he sells it out of a food truck called weed World, 0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.560 which Liza. 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:35.840 Is telling me is a scam, and I'm even more 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:37.040 mad at him than it was before. 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.200 Finn's like, yeah, give me whatever you gave Grace Walker 0:41:40.280 --> 0:41:42.880 before you raped her. And he's like extremely calm for 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:44.759 a man who's just been accused of rape. He's like, 0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.439 I don't know if it's the weed, but he's very chill. 0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.759 He's like, no, when I left, she was just she 0:41:49.880 --> 0:41:52.960 was still standing and drinking with my buddy Silas, who 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:55.799 I'm just gonna sell out right now, Like I mean 0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:58.640 just like, yeah, I left them and Silas was with her. 0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:00.440 He's like, I have an Uber receipt. 0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:02.600 And it is weird how sometimes they call it Uber 0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.399 and sometimes they call it quick Ride or whatever, like yeah, 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:07.879 sometimes they get the like the ability to use Uber. 0:42:07.880 --> 0:42:09.719 I don't know, maybe they were still in contract to 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:10.200 mention it. 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.600 Well, maybe it can't be in the crime because you're thinking, 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.840 when Maddie got taken, this is just like, oh, we 0:42:16.000 --> 0:42:17.760 we have a fun ride, you know how Like villains 0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:22.200 can't use mac Oh is that true? Yeah, villains can't 0:42:22.280 --> 0:42:24.160 use iPhones and it always has to be one hundred 0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:26.640 percent charged, like if you want to use an iPhone 0:42:27.080 --> 0:42:30.520 and maybe for Uber, like Maddie went missing in a 0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:32.279 like a driver can't be. 0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.160 Yeah, it can't be used in the crime, but like 0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.960 ged it was like yeah, in quick Ride, it was 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.160 like there were guys like trafficking using quick D Yeah, 0:42:40.160 --> 0:42:41.799 obviously Uber is not going to allow that you're right 0:42:41.840 --> 0:42:42.960 that I think this. 0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.880 It's like, oh, here, I just went home. I have evidence. 0:42:46.040 --> 0:42:49.279 I have my receipt and like I was, I think 0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:49.640 that's it. 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:52.480 Yeah. Uber's like we're the number one app for proving 0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:55.239 that you didn't rape somebody. Just show your receipt. The 0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:58.200 guy goes the driver will confirm that I was alone, 0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.320 and so Finn's like, okay, give me Silas's info. So 0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.680 now Grace is getting a ride home from Careesy and 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.120 he jokes about like wait till you get my bill, 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.400 and she believes it for a second and it's like cresy. 0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.240 Maybe not like the jokingness with like the rape victim. 0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.399 And she's like, sorry, my head's still not on straight. 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:14.560 And he goes, yeah, you're gonna have a hell of 0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.560 a lump, and it's like it is an assault injury. 0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.560 I think you need to like tone it down. And 0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.920 then she says, could you just pull past my building 0:43:20.920 --> 0:43:23.480 a little bit? My doorman is like really nosy, and 0:43:24.040 --> 0:43:26.480 she asks, do you just meet a lot of like 0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.719 victims like me, and he's like, way too many, and 0:43:28.800 --> 0:43:31.000 she's like, how do their boyfriends usually take it? She 0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:34.080 suggests like maybe I don't tell Tommy the other stuff, 0:43:34.080 --> 0:43:37.080 and Caresey's like, that's totally your choice, but support from 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.359 a loved one is always good. And I can get 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:42.160 you a wreck for a therapist and she's like, no, 0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.160 thank you. Like everything Caresey offers this episode, people are 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.400 like pass thank you. And he also says, you know, 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:50.160 I can call your boss so you can take work 0:43:50.200 --> 0:43:53.560 off tomorrow, and she's like, I'm in between jobs. Tommy 0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:55.680 pays the bill and bills and he doesn't care that 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.560 I don't really contribute financially. I do medical research. And 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:02.160 he's a thoracic surgeon, which I had to look up 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:03.840 also because I wasn't actually positive. 0:44:03.920 --> 0:44:05.360 But it's any. 0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.920 Surgical procedures on the organs and the structures within the 0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.440 chest cavity known as the thorax like heart, lungs, esophagus, 0:44:12.480 --> 0:44:13.680 trachy a, diaphragm. 0:44:14.480 --> 0:44:14.760 Wow. 0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:18.200 She gets out to go meet her thoracic surgeon boyfriend 0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.279 and maybe not tell him what happened to her and 0:44:20.400 --> 0:44:21.960 CARESI gets a call. 0:44:21.960 --> 0:44:23.239 It's like so upsetting. 0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:29.360 Yeah. Yeah, And now Caresian Finn are at and you 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.120 also have to consider that, I bet in real life 0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.080 the cops are not as like we'll give you a 0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.320 ride home, and we'll like, I'll give you a therapist 0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:38.360 recommendation and I can call your work and do like 0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.000 you know, like I don't know. Sometimes I feel like 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.400 that's just added stuff for the show. And you know, 0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:48.400 but now Caresium Finn are at this guy Silas's office 0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:50.160 and he's like, what the fuck. 0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.440 Grace is the one that attacked me. She was like 0:44:52.600 --> 0:44:54.160 wonder woman on bath salts. 0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:56.759 And he says he whacked her with the steel rod 0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.040 in self defense when she went after his money clip. 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.760 And he's like, they're like, well what about her wallet? 0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:04.240 And he's like, she never had a wallet, she's broke, 0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.680 and the panties didn't disappear. He goes like any good slut, 0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:10.640 she wasn't wearing any He's gross, Like, I think he 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.200 might be innocent of what happened, but he's a gross person. 0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:13.719 Yeah. 0:45:13.760 --> 0:45:17.440 He also he's talking calling girls sweetheart at bars and 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:18.560 talking about pigasms. 0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:19.600 He's a he's a fucker. 0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:22.840 Uh So he admits that they had sex but he 0:45:22.920 --> 0:45:25.759 said it was consensual, and he goes, if you don't mind, 0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:28.000 I have work to do, and Iced Tea goes, if 0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:31.280 you don't mind, turn your ass around, which again stamp 0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:32.759 it on a T shirt, put it in the book. 0:45:33.719 --> 0:45:37.279 And then the guy goes, Harvey book, the Book of 0:45:37.480 --> 0:45:39.560 Icy Quotes. It's got to be a coffee table book. 0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:41.239 We should write it. I mean, they're just so good. 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:42.800 It's so good I read I want to write it. 0:45:43.080 --> 0:45:45.080 Let's do that, just like. 0:45:45.320 --> 0:45:48.239 Tasteful photos of Finn with the quotes underneath would be 0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:52.760 so great black and whites. So anyway, as they're cuffing, 0:45:53.000 --> 0:46:00.480 like my funny, Yeah, they're cuffing this fucking fuck boy. 0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:03.360 He goes, Harvey can go to hell and they're like 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.200 what And he's like me too, this time's up that 0:46:06.640 --> 0:46:08.440 you can't even pick up a broad at a bar 0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.239 these days. And it's like you are the problem, sir, 0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:14.600 Like you just you're like fighting for your right to 0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.879 call women broads, you know, And Finn deadpans and goes, 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.480 what is the world coming to? And so now we're 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:25.040 walking Silas Perry into the precinct and Live wants him 0:46:25.040 --> 0:46:27.279 in an interrogation room. And Live wants Grace to come 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:30.080 in there for a lineup, but oops, the number she 0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:34.560 gave them is to a sorority house at Spence College, 0:46:34.800 --> 0:46:38.560 and they don't know they don't know her. No one 0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:42.600 there knows her name, like the name Grace Walker, and 0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:46.439 that's weird. Cariese's like, we probably just wrote it down wrong. 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:48.359 I'll go back to her building. So he goes over 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:50.520 there and the doorman where he dropped her off does 0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.000 not know anyone named Grace Walker and he's never seen 0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:56.200 this girl. And he's like, her boyfriend's Tommy, a thoracic surgeon, 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.120 and the guy's like, nope, I got allergists, podiatrists, no 0:46:59.239 --> 0:47:01.719 thorastic surgeon, and none of them are named Tommy. And 0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:05.759 Carisy asked to see the security footage back to the 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:09.520 Pigasm juchebag Silas He's like the bar was closing, Grace 0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:13.200 wanted to keep partying. He keeps insisting that she attacked him. 0:47:13.680 --> 0:47:15.880 He didn't call the cops because he's married and they 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:16.600 had sex. 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:18.000 It was not a big deal. 0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:20.960 And then Stone and Benson are watching through the glass. 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.040 Carisi enters with the bad news that not only is 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.440 the number fake, but so was the address. The security 0:47:25.480 --> 0:47:28.959 footage shows Grace going into the building after Carisy drops 0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:31.759 drop and then walking right back out. So Liv wants 0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:35.319 to see if Silas might have any clues to find Grace, 0:47:35.400 --> 0:47:38.800 like did she say anything about herself when they were chatting. 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.960 Liv goes in there and this guy is rude as fuck. 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:43.520 He goes, who are you and she's like, I'm the 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:46.760 fucking boss, dude, and he's like, oh, someone with a brain. Finally, 0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:50.120 and she asks him like, well, what did you two 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.160 talk about the whole night you were partying, And he goes, 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.360 I told her I love the new Kanye album. I 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:56.520 mean the writers are being so shape, like they are 0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:59.600 painting this man a perfect portrait of who this man is, right, 0:48:00.200 --> 0:48:02.040 I told her I loved the new Kanye album and 0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:04.959 I wrote in my notes I would expect nothing less 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:07.520 in caps. And she said she didn't know he was 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:09.840 married to Kim Kay, which he thought was weird, and 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:12.359 that is weird for you to not know that two 0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:13.760 of the most famous people in the world. 0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.279 Are married when you're like a young woman. And so 0:48:16.520 --> 0:48:17.080 finally he. 0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.080 Tells her she kept talking about pancakes at a diner 0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:23.000 on one hundred and fifty fifth and Broadway, and I 0:48:23.040 --> 0:48:25.279 don't give a fuck about the pancakes, like he was like, 0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:26.719 I was just trying to get in her pants, Like 0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.080 this guy is a piece of shit, and Lives trying 0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:30.480 to turn the heat up on him, and he's like, 0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:32.920 your wife's gonna call and Rollins is gonna answer, and 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:34.959 he's like, I don't know anything else about the fucking 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.120 punk pancakes. I was just trying to fuck her. And 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:39.520 then Lives like throw him in the cage and he shocked. 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:41.080 He's like, I thought I was getting out of here, 0:48:42.000 --> 0:48:44.000 but I like that they're just gonna make him twist. 0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:44.319 For a little bit. 0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:46.560 Caresa Am Finn are now up at one hundred and 0:48:46.560 --> 0:48:48.680 fifty fifth Street, and guess what they can't find it. 0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:52.560 That's wildly like respectful to live though once she said 0:48:52.600 --> 0:48:56.200 she was in charge. Yeah, he wasn't, like you like, 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:58.919 he doesn't say that a woman run the place. Yeah 0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:02.160 he didn't. He was like like, ah, finally, like you know, 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:06.840 it was kind of outside his character that we've you know, grown. Yeah, no, 0:49:07.040 --> 0:49:07.960 that's true, that's true. 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:12.319 Maybe his mom worked Careasy and Finn are now at 0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:14.520 one hundred and fifty fifth on Broadway, and there's not 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:18.320 a pancake in sight, but caresy, I want a pancake 0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:23.239 now we I know a delicious pancake. Careasy clocks a 0:49:23.280 --> 0:49:27.040 homeless shelter called Walker House, and that is the last 0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:28.640 name that Grace has been using. 0:49:28.760 --> 0:49:32.240 She's been saying, also a famous pancake house in Chicago. 0:49:32.440 --> 0:49:37.359 Well in Evanston walker Houses. Yeah, it's Walker Brothers. Oh 0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:39.400 that's I bet you that's connected. 0:49:39.440 --> 0:49:41.279 Don't you think that that's like the writer is from 0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:45.279 Chicago or something that makes sense, Yeah, and like like 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.719 just a little pancake like Easter egg. 0:49:48.840 --> 0:49:50.600 But so they go to Walker House. 0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:54.040 The guy there recognizes Grace, but he's telling about how 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.440 the Walker family are like these tech billionaires, and they 0:49:56.520 --> 0:50:00.239 immediately assume that this girl, because she's like what and 0:50:00.320 --> 0:50:04.360 blonde and pretty and well spoken, I guess is a 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.120 member of this billionaire family. And they're like, he goes, no, no, 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.840 Grace comes here twice a day, but she's not related 0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.960 to the tech billionaires who sponsored this place. She's actually unhoused. 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.560 And they're like, what, like, Cariese's never had his mind 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.759 blown as hard as he is that this girl does 0:50:20.160 --> 0:50:22.279 not have a place to live, and they tell him 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.440 that she was sexually assaulted, and the guy goes, yeah, unfortunately, 0:50:26.520 --> 0:50:28.840 that's par for the course. Over ninety percent of homeless 0:50:28.840 --> 0:50:31.880 women have experienced some form of sexual assault, and Grace 0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:34.440 is what they call a rough sleeper, which means she 0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:37.759 prefers the street to the shelter. She'd rather be out 0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:40.600 on the street than in the shelters. Caresy cannot wrap 0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:43.000 his mind around Grace being homeless, and the guy's like, yeah, 0:50:43.040 --> 0:50:45.320 because she has good hygiene, like she showers here, she 0:50:45.400 --> 0:50:48.120 showers at the why, she takes care of herself, and 0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:51.040 she usually comes in for lunch and sits with Tommy. 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:52.800 And so they point out Tommy. They're like, he's the 0:50:52.840 --> 0:50:55.760 guy in the camo jacket. When they announce themselves to Tommy, 0:50:55.840 --> 0:50:58.759 he obviously freaks out immediately because I don't think you 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.680 should like walk toward a guy going Tommy where the 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:04.680 cops like, you know, I mean, the guy probably has 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:05.720 like Tommy. 0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.640 I hate Tommy. Yeah, well I hate Tommy too, but 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:10.239 if you want to talk to him, you shouldn't. You 0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:11.440 shouldn't go in hot like that. 0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:15.400 So he drops his tray, food splatters, on Finn's like 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.799 shoes and clothes and he's like, oh, hell no, which 0:51:17.880 --> 0:51:18.440 I love too. 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:21.440 I love when Finn gets mad that his fit gets ruined. 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:23.600 And then Tommy makes a run for it, but some 0:51:23.800 --> 0:51:26.120 old guy with a cane trips his ass and they 0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:29.080 get him. So now they've got Tommy in interrogation but 0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:33.040 actually in woodroom lines, and they ask him about his girlfriend, 0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:35.040 Grace and he's like, that is not my girlfriend. We 0:51:35.200 --> 0:51:37.680 have some meals together, but that's it, and he's like, 0:51:37.800 --> 0:51:40.799 Grace is a cuckoo bird, and then they bring up 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.239 the sexual assault and he starts to feel bad. He's like, wait, what, 0:51:43.719 --> 0:51:45.600 Like now he feels bad that he just called her 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:49.840 cuckoo and he says, people like us are parapatetic and 0:51:50.120 --> 0:51:52.560 Grace taught him that word, which that word means people 0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.520 that travel around and are like nomadic, and he doesn't 0:51:55.640 --> 0:51:58.160 know where Grace is though, he says so. Rollins goes 0:51:58.200 --> 0:52:01.440 into Live's office and starts rat off some statistics like 0:52:01.560 --> 0:52:04.920 seventy six thousand homeless people in New York City, drug addicts, 0:52:04.960 --> 0:52:09.879 mensally ill people, domestic violence victims, veterans, and Rollins is like, yeah, 0:52:09.960 --> 0:52:13.000 but she used the word parapatetic. What's going on there? 0:52:13.520 --> 0:52:17.000 And she thinks Grace gave them the sorority house number 0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:19.120 because maybe she went to Spence, which, by the way, 0:52:19.160 --> 0:52:21.080 Spence is a private school in New York City but 0:52:21.200 --> 0:52:23.680 not a college, so I guess they just borrowed it. 0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.840 Yeah, like there was a college. It gives me like 0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:29.960 not brand Ice but like bar Yeah, maybe maybe Barnard 0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:30.440 or something. 0:52:30.520 --> 0:52:32.360 Yeah, like I don't know if it's all girls, but 0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:34.879 like they are like give me that by a very 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:39.759 beautiful like you know, but and Barnard is like part 0:52:39.800 --> 0:52:42.239 of Columbia and like you can take classes there, so 0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:44.520 it's not like fully fully all girls, I guess, but 0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:50.360 that's where Michelle Collins went actually, but Spence is a 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:52.400 high school. Yeah, it's like high a private high school anyway. 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:56.319 So Live picks up the phone at the sorority Finn 0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.800 and CREESI are flashing Grace's picture and they're talking. 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:03.080 The girl Stabler's Catholic schools. You're private schools. You're the 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:04.480 Stabler of private schools. 0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:08.560 I just private knew a girl in high school who 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:11.040 left high school, left our high school to go to Spence, 0:53:11.239 --> 0:53:13.279 So I'm just I know yeah, I know something because 0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:16.120 I'm also camp and like my cousins that grew up 0:53:16.120 --> 0:53:17.880 in the city, I know some of the private schools, 0:53:17.920 --> 0:53:18.320 but I'm not. 0:53:18.480 --> 0:53:20.719 I don't I couldn't tell you where the Catholic schools are. 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:24.920 But they're showing this blonde girl and she goes, oh, 0:53:25.040 --> 0:53:29.040 that's Sophie Simmons, Like we pledged together the sorority three 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.960 years ago, and she's like, Sophie was my first friend 0:53:32.480 --> 0:53:34.640 and then one day we had coffee and I never 0:53:34.800 --> 0:53:37.879 saw her again. And they're like what, and she's like, well, 0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:40.120 we at first we thought she was just sleeping at 0:53:40.120 --> 0:53:42.000 this guy's house that she was hooking up with. But 0:53:42.120 --> 0:53:44.520 after a week we realized she was missing and we 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.840 called We told the school, they called her parents and 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:50.960 then the girl asks like, if you find Sophie, will 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.760 you tell her I love her and tell her I'm sorry. 0:53:53.000 --> 0:53:56.800 And like so back at the precinct, they're watching a 0:53:56.880 --> 0:53:59.400 video of Sophie maybe that this girl gave them, and 0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.279 it's like her friend is begging her like. 0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:02.600 Let's go to this party. Let's go. 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:06.400 Everybody's going, and she goes, not this future doctor and 0:54:06.640 --> 0:54:11.000 they're like, come on, Paul's gonna be there, and she's like, okay, 0:54:11.160 --> 0:54:13.200 I'm in let me get dressed, and then like you know, 0:54:13.400 --> 0:54:17.000 she's they've convinced her to go out. So now Stone 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.360 can't believe looking at the photo of her from the 0:54:20.400 --> 0:54:22.960 sorority that it's the same girl. I think she still 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:26.000 looks pretty pretty as the street version of herself, Like 0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:27.719 she does not like, you know, I don't think that 0:54:27.880 --> 0:54:32.080 street round. I just I don't buy that. 0:54:33.440 --> 0:54:37.960 So because I didn't not know the next. 0:54:37.880 --> 0:54:42.120 Word, I did not just a little snack, guys, Okay, 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:47.480 so in our pantake, yeah see yeah, like okay, that's 0:54:47.560 --> 0:54:47.799 the thing. 0:54:47.880 --> 0:54:50.080 You guys aren't paying for people to eat. But that's 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:51.160 what we talked about last week. 0:54:51.160 --> 0:54:52.480 You're not paying for people to eat, but then you're 0:54:52.480 --> 0:54:54.680 gonna cut their hand off if they steal. All right, 0:54:54.800 --> 0:54:57.680 So in three years, what's going on with this girl? 0:54:57.800 --> 0:54:59.600 She never picked up a phone to ask for help. 0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.880 Stone asks, did she ever call her parents? Her parents 0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.600 live in Rye, which is a suburb of New York 0:55:05.680 --> 0:55:08.799 that's probably forty minutes outside the city. They're on their way. 0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:13.520 Amanda brings up an app that helps track the unhoused, 0:55:13.600 --> 0:55:16.120 called street Life NYC. I do not know if this 0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:19.399 is a real thing, but it helps families locate loved ones. 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.799 And she posted Grace's photo with a hashtag and now 0:55:22.960 --> 0:55:26.080 is hoping for the best. I guess you would download 0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.719 Street Life NYC and go, just a homeless person looks 0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:30.560 like the person you're looking for. Is that how it 0:55:30.560 --> 0:55:33.279 would work? Like it's a misconnections kind of for on 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:37.160 house people. I don't know anyway, just through a whole 0:55:37.200 --> 0:55:38.759 thing in my brain, I go, I wonder who would 0:55:38.800 --> 0:55:39.000 use that? 0:55:39.040 --> 0:55:40.160 Should I help find people? 0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:40.279 Know? 0:55:40.440 --> 0:55:42.680 This is probably for people that know a missing person. 0:55:42.880 --> 0:55:43.920 I'm not getting involved. 0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.040 I thought all of that Rollins is literally like they 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.480 just have to make rollins the tech guru all the time, 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:52.640 so she knows about the app. So Stone is like 0:55:52.840 --> 0:55:58.720 she knows about MMA gambling the South. Stone is upset. 0:55:58.880 --> 0:56:02.200 This whole storyline is upsetting Stone and lives like, what's up, dude. 0:56:02.239 --> 0:56:04.600 She gets it out of him. He's like, my sister 0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:08.160 went missing once before they institutionalized her and she endsed 0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.640 up on the street with a junkie doing meth. So 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.200 Stone says it's the only time he ever saw his 0:56:14.400 --> 0:56:18.520 father cry. And don't forget his dad was the Ada 0:56:18.719 --> 0:56:22.000 on original recipe like the first four seasons eighty eight 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:26.400 episodes Ben Stone and so if you have that man's 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:28.959 face in your head, picture him crying over his daughter 0:56:29.080 --> 0:56:32.720 being missing and on the street doing drugs. Sophie's parents 0:56:33.040 --> 0:56:35.560 arrive and the last time they saw her was Freshman 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:39.680 parents weekend. Sophie's dad brought her new step mom and 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:42.120 Sophie was pissed because her mom died when she was five. 0:56:42.160 --> 0:56:43.640 And I don't think she's warmed up to the new 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:49.160 stepmom yet. But after that weekend, she never texted, emailed 0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:52.320 or called. They hung up posters, they hired pis nothing 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:56.600 and it is It's like, is there a missing person's 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:58.840 case in the NYPD? I don't know, not that they 0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.440 would necessarily owe do something, but they do kind of 0:57:01.480 --> 0:57:03.480 get it up for a fucking white woman that's missing 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:04.719 from the suburbs. 0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:08.560 They do try. Uh, Dad asks does she still hate me? 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:10.960 And lives like, dude, I don't want to bum you out, 0:57:11.000 --> 0:57:13.160 but she has not mentioned your ass one time, and 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.799 that is a that is a sting. And the dad, 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:18.120 you can tell, is burned by that, and Liv goes, 0:57:18.720 --> 0:57:20.800 we're busting our asses trying to find her, and the 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:22.040 dad is like suddenly furious. 0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:24.560 He's like, you don't have her, you call yourself a cop? 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.919 What the fuck? And Stone is like, bitch, I should 0:57:27.000 --> 0:57:27.440 arrest you. 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:29.960 And Live has to like calm the whole room down, 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:33.520 and she tells Stone like, dog, you cannot attack the parents. 0:57:33.600 --> 0:57:36.320 And Stone's pissed. He's like they didn't do enough. He's like, 0:57:36.440 --> 0:57:39.120 my dad had half of the NYPD working overtime. It's like, yeah, 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:42.920 he was an executive Ada. They're not the same of dads. 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:44.880 But if they didn't even do a police support, it 0:57:45.000 --> 0:57:47.760 is fucked up. Yeah, that is weird. 0:57:48.000 --> 0:57:50.000 I do feel like if they had gotten want missing 0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.439 posters out through the NYPD, like we would have found 0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:52.840 this girl. 0:57:52.920 --> 0:57:55.520 She's in bars, she's on the street, you know, like yeah, 0:57:55.640 --> 0:57:56.560 they do find people. 0:57:57.120 --> 0:58:00.800 But Stone doesn't get it and Rollin's bus in and goes, 0:58:00.880 --> 0:58:04.040 oh my gosh, guys, good news apps work. I found 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:07.240 Grace slash Sophie on street life app and she's panhandling 0:58:07.280 --> 0:58:09.880 on the corner of Henry and Grand Again, I wrote, 0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.080 how does this app work? Like I don't understand. I 0:58:12.240 --> 0:58:14.600 was like, like, is it just spying on people? And 0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:16.360 going I think this looks like the guy you're looking for. 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:19.080 Live tell Stone you need to chill, and then she 0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:21.720 takes off to go find Sophie. Finn and Carisi are 0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.560 about to approach Sophie slash Grace when they see Tommy 0:58:25.680 --> 0:58:28.560 walk up to her and then he just fucking sucker 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.600 punches her right in the damn face and then they 0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:34.280 start fighting in a pile of trash bags and caris 0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:38.360 he's also a lot older than her. Yeah, he's a 0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:42.000 lot older. He's huge compared to her, and they arrest 0:58:42.120 --> 0:58:43.480 all obviously. 0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:44.800 Like Penelope Dissick flew. 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:50.640 Yeah, yeah, she flew like little Penelope Dissick. So now 0:58:50.680 --> 0:58:54.200 we're at the hospital. Grace slash Sophie is like, just 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.120 leave me alone. I just want you as leave me alone. 0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.200 And they're like, oh, your boyfriend just beat the shit 0:58:58.280 --> 0:59:00.160 out of you. And they tell her like, we have 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:03.480 enough evidence to, like, you know, proceed with an assault 0:59:03.560 --> 0:59:05.320 case on him and he could go to jail. And 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.600 Cresey's like, please tell me you don't love this guy, 0:59:07.760 --> 0:59:10.160 and she's like I need him, and Creasey's like, but 0:59:10.280 --> 0:59:12.880 he hits you, that's not a good deal, and she's 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:15.040 like better than a million other guys who will rape 0:59:15.120 --> 0:59:19.280 me just because So this guy is clearly like boyfriend. 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:22.080 The term is very loose, like this guy just protects 0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:23.760 her on the street in exchange for. 0:59:24.560 --> 0:59:25.400 Sex, I think. 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:29.280 So they bring up Silas case and she goes, forget it, 0:59:29.440 --> 0:59:31.440 he didn't rape me. He paid me what we agreed to. 0:59:31.680 --> 0:59:34.200 I tried to take more like I got greedy. So 0:59:34.320 --> 0:59:36.520 they're like okay, So then Tommy just punched you in 0:59:36.560 --> 0:59:38.720 the face because you cheated on him, and she goes, yeah, 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:41.120 we have a deal, and Lives like, girl, why are 0:59:41.240 --> 0:59:44.000 you living like this? Why don't you call your parents? 0:59:44.080 --> 0:59:47.160 And she goes they're dead, And when liv asks what 0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.160 are their names, she goes, I don't remember. 0:59:50.840 --> 0:59:53.680 Why can't I remember that? And then Live shows her 0:59:53.960 --> 0:59:55.560 her own sorority. 0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:58.680 Photo and she goes, she's pretty, but she doesn't recognize 0:59:58.760 --> 1:00:02.320 herself in the photo, and they go does the name 1:00:02.360 --> 1:00:05.800 Sophie Simmons mean anything? She says no, and then she goes, well, 1:00:05.800 --> 1:00:07.640 there's some people who want to meet you. Be right back, 1:00:07.720 --> 1:00:09.480 and then they bring in the dad and he calls 1:00:09.520 --> 1:00:12.800 her Sophie and he's crying and she's like, Dad, why 1:00:12.840 --> 1:00:15.360 are you crying? What am I doing here? Is something 1:00:15.400 --> 1:00:18.920 wrong with me? So this is the part of it 1:00:19.040 --> 1:00:20.919 that I didn't remember. I was like, what is going 1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.640 on with her? I thought it was maybe just a 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.760 mirror of stone situation when I was first watching it, 1:00:25.840 --> 1:00:28.880 that like she had schizophrenia and was like on the street, 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:32.280 and you know that happens all the time, but it's 1:00:32.440 --> 1:00:35.720 you know, it gets it changed, it's different now. Sophie 1:00:35.760 --> 1:00:39.080 slash Grace is looking at photos and recounting memories to 1:00:39.120 --> 1:00:41.959 a therapist and she remembers fucking everything. She is telling 1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:44.240 a detailed story about being in Florida with her dad 1:00:44.360 --> 1:00:46.720 and exactly what happened when she fell on her face 1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:50.680 and all this, and she says when her mom was alive, 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:52.920 her dad worked all the time, she didn't see him 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.080 that much, but after her mom died, he actually became 1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:57.240 much more involved and she really loved getting all that 1:00:57.280 --> 1:01:00.760 attention from him. She remembers dad and past the stepmom 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.480 visiting on freshman parents weekend, and after that she doesn't remember. 1:01:04.160 --> 1:01:06.600 And then she's and in that scene she's talking to 1:01:06.680 --> 1:01:10.720 a therapist, and we've seen this therapist before in other episodes, 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:12.800 Like I think she was maybe in the born psychopath episodes, 1:01:12.840 --> 1:01:15.480 but I forgot to look her up and it is 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:20.080 dissociative fugue disorder, which is a very rare condition where 1:01:20.120 --> 1:01:23.600 a patient loses autobiographical information and in the absence of 1:01:23.640 --> 1:01:26.520 a personal identity, they adopt a new one, and it's 1:01:26.600 --> 1:01:30.800 usually triggered by child abuse or sexual assault. So Grace 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:34.520 has been on the streets being assaulted for three years, 1:01:34.720 --> 1:01:39.200 not Sophie. Like Sophie, the personality has been exiled from 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:42.640 her conscious mind, hence the name of the episode. Stone 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:45.880 is like, well, that's dramatic, and she's like, well, yeah, 1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:48.840 it's like she killed Sophie and created Grace, and we 1:01:49.000 --> 1:01:51.640 have to figure out the source of the trauma. It 1:01:51.720 --> 1:01:54.000 could have happened at Spence or maybe it was her dad. 1:01:54.560 --> 1:01:55.080 We don't know. 1:01:55.720 --> 1:01:57.760 And this case is not going to fucking hold up 1:01:57.800 --> 1:02:01.200 with this amnesia situation. So Lives like, we got to 1:02:01.200 --> 1:02:03.360 take Sophie back to the place where she became Grace. 1:02:03.720 --> 1:02:06.000 So now we're at Spence. It looks beautiful. I wonder 1:02:06.040 --> 1:02:09.600 where they are and Gray Slash Sophie is telling Live 1:02:09.720 --> 1:02:12.880 about how rushing THETA was so on fleek and what 1:02:13.040 --> 1:02:16.200 a time capsule. Uh, we would no one would dare 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:19.920 now and Live was Live goes. Oh, yeah, I was 1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:20.680 a Phi Delta. 1:02:21.200 --> 1:02:24.439 Who knew? Did we ever know? Live was a sorority girl? 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:28.680 This is the first time of it. Yeah, first I 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:31.560 have heard. I know she was like she always tries 1:02:31.640 --> 1:02:35.800 to like pretend she wasn't cool, Like she's always trying 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.080 to vibe with the loser. I'm thinking of the episode 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:40.360 Popular where she was like, you know, I got picked 1:02:40.400 --> 1:02:42.680 on and I kept secrets and my mom and then 1:02:42.720 --> 1:02:45.760 it's like you were like a full blown sorority Sligh 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:51.640 when your Prada and your fancy stuff and I don't know, 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:54.640 it's just like so different. I can't I honestly can't 1:02:54.640 --> 1:02:56.640 believe you were. I wonder if she was in real life, 1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.960 like where this came from? So shocking. This must have 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:02.720 been meetings to discuss Yeah, and she was dating older men. 1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:04.440 Not that I think that makes you cool, but I 1:03:04.440 --> 1:03:06.360 don't think it makes you like a little like it 1:03:06.520 --> 1:03:08.440 was like in the back of the room doing my homework, 1:03:08.480 --> 1:03:11.600 you know, like she was she had older boyfriends. Anyway, 1:03:12.040 --> 1:03:15.400 she tells Grace Slash Sophie that college was really an 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:19.800 escape for her, and then Sophie sees a tree where 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:22.120 she first met Paul and that was the first guy 1:03:22.280 --> 1:03:22.720 she ever. 1:03:23.360 --> 1:03:24.720 She goes, I was a late bloomer. 1:03:24.800 --> 1:03:27.200 I was like, girl, I lost my virginity way after eighteen, 1:03:27.280 --> 1:03:28.960 So we want to talk about late bloomer. 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.720 I'm the latest bloomer, and Live. 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:35.400 Confesses she survived on Captain Crunch and it wasn't until 1:03:35.440 --> 1:03:37.920 she moved in with Billy that she started upgraded to 1:03:38.080 --> 1:03:38.880 cans of tuna. 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:42.320 And then they have a combo about the past. 1:03:42.680 --> 1:03:45.360 Being over, but it's not always over, like you know, 1:03:45.640 --> 1:03:50.760 Live is really call like really like carefully getting into 1:03:50.800 --> 1:03:52.920 this situation with her, like she's not coming out and 1:03:52.960 --> 1:03:55.560 asking any questions, just kind of setting the scene for 1:03:55.640 --> 1:03:57.200 her to figure out what happened here. 1:03:57.640 --> 1:03:59.840 Then they go to this they see this beautiful dorm. 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:01.400 She goes, this is where I lived with all the 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:05.480 pre meds, and then she start They go inside and 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.240 she starts like touring Live around and talking about like 1:04:08.280 --> 1:04:09.960 how she was such a nerd at school, like a 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:14.360 front row kid. But suddenly her mood changes and she goes, 1:04:14.760 --> 1:04:16.840 you should see the football stadium and Lives like, no, 1:04:17.040 --> 1:04:19.400 why don't we stay here? Because Lives like amazing at 1:04:19.480 --> 1:04:22.480 reading people's reactions, and the girl's like, but the football 1:04:22.480 --> 1:04:23.840 stadium is like really cool, and she's like no, no, 1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:26.960 like what's down here. She's like maybe, like let's keep 1:04:27.000 --> 1:04:29.040 walking around here, and she goes, maybe you'll run into 1:04:29.080 --> 1:04:31.400 someone you know, and she goes, yeah, like professor Adams, 1:04:31.840 --> 1:04:34.280 I hate him. He gave me a B minus and 1:04:34.880 --> 1:04:37.880 she'd never gotten below a bee before. And then she 1:04:38.080 --> 1:04:40.320 starts to freak out because she's like, oh my god, 1:04:40.360 --> 1:04:41.720 my dad's going to kill me. He told me if 1:04:41.760 --> 1:04:43.440 I got below a bee he was going to send 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:46.920 me to Sunny, which is so the dad. 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:48.440 That makes me think the dad is shitty. 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:52.080 Not that there's anything wrong with Sunny, but like, don't 1:04:52.280 --> 1:04:56.160 like what a weird fucking threat. Live calms her down. 1:04:56.960 --> 1:04:58.880 I have many friends who went to Sunny grade schools. 1:04:59.720 --> 1:05:02.080 Live calms her down and goes, yeah, parents say a 1:05:02.120 --> 1:05:04.760 lot of shit. But then they go she's like, let's 1:05:04.800 --> 1:05:07.960 go in. They get into the office, it's it's you know, 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.280 she's scared. She doesn't want to go in or see him, 1:05:10.320 --> 1:05:11.800 but no one is in the office, so they go 1:05:11.880 --> 1:05:15.320 inside and then she sees this like nasty like love 1:05:15.440 --> 1:05:18.000 seat in the corner of the office and she's like, 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:21.240 that is where it was. She goes, I came to 1:05:21.320 --> 1:05:23.440 see him to see if I could do extra credit, 1:05:23.880 --> 1:05:26.240 and he told me he believed in sex for grades. 1:05:26.800 --> 1:05:28.840 I thought it was a joke and I laughed, but 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:31.800 he wasn't joking. He grabbed me. He pushed me down, 1:05:32.360 --> 1:05:35.080 and while he was attacking her, she goes, I had 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:37.440 a pen in my pocket and it was jabbed against 1:05:37.480 --> 1:05:39.520 my leg until it broke, and we can see the 1:05:39.600 --> 1:05:41.520 blue ink stain on the couch, so like we know 1:05:41.680 --> 1:05:44.680 her story is like real, and she says, I still 1:05:44.720 --> 1:05:47.480 have the scar. She's like, I tried to scream. He 1:05:47.600 --> 1:05:49.720 covered my mouth, and Live calms her down and is like, 1:05:49.760 --> 1:05:50.560 who's gonna believe me? 1:05:50.600 --> 1:05:51.480 And she's like, I do. 1:05:52.040 --> 1:05:55.280 I believe you, And she tells her we're gonna find 1:05:55.320 --> 1:05:59.480 this bastard and confront him. And then, like in a movie, 1:05:59.680 --> 1:06:01.200 a woman walks in and goes, what are you doing 1:06:01.280 --> 1:06:04.360 in my office? And they're like, where's Professor Adams? And 1:06:05.000 --> 1:06:08.320 this woman drops the bomb he died in March. Fuck 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:13.040 Sophie slash Grace starts to sob. The woman explains he 1:06:13.160 --> 1:06:16.000 had a heart attack, So this fucker It's like when 1:06:16.040 --> 1:06:18.000 we do a case and a guy goes to jail 1:06:18.000 --> 1:06:19.400 and then we find out they die in jail two 1:06:19.400 --> 1:06:23.520 months later. I'm like, it's not fair, Sophie. Yeah, yeah, 1:06:23.560 --> 1:06:28.200 I hate that our big pet peeves Sophie. Grace is 1:06:28.320 --> 1:06:30.680 in the in Lives office now, and Lives trying to 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.520 comfort her, but Sophie is pissed. She's like, don't call me, Sophie. 1:06:33.840 --> 1:06:36.000 You told me I would start healing when I confronted him, 1:06:36.000 --> 1:06:38.880 and now he's dead. There's no healing. Like she's having 1:06:39.040 --> 1:06:41.760 like an episode. She really does not. She's not taking 1:06:41.840 --> 1:06:44.160 this well. Lives like, let me drive you home. She's like, 1:06:44.200 --> 1:06:46.320 I'm not going home. I was better off on the streets. 1:06:46.360 --> 1:06:49.400 At least Tommy took care of me. And look what 1:06:49.560 --> 1:06:53.440 you did. And then Live goes here, takes a coffee 1:06:53.480 --> 1:06:55.680 mug and gives it to Sophie and goes just throw it. 1:06:55.800 --> 1:06:57.680 She just turns her office into a smash room. She 1:06:57.760 --> 1:07:00.560 goes throw this in, so Sophie rows it on the 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:03.200 ground and like does that feel good? And she's like, see, 1:07:03.280 --> 1:07:06.640 he's dead, but you're not. And she's like it's not enough, 1:07:06.720 --> 1:07:09.960 and she runs out of the office. Later that evening, 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:13.840 Careesy finds live and is like, hey, another priestinct just 1:07:13.920 --> 1:07:16.040 called us that Sophie was found dumpster diving on the 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.280 Lower East Side and claims her name is Grace Walker. 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.120 So they're bringing her in and lives like and then what, 1:07:21.720 --> 1:07:24.000 she won't go home, She'll end up back on the street. 1:07:24.560 --> 1:07:27.840 And even if they fifty one fifty her like, which 1:07:27.880 --> 1:07:31.800 is when you put somebody on a mental hold basically 1:07:31.880 --> 1:07:34.800 for mental evaluation, which, by the way I read on 1:07:34.880 --> 1:07:37.560 the IMDb of this page is something fifty one fifty 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:39.959 as a term only exists in California, So it's funny 1:07:40.000 --> 1:07:45.080 that they're using it on SVU and they're like yeah, 1:07:45.320 --> 1:07:48.280 and they're like she'll just lives, Like she'll just get 1:07:48.400 --> 1:07:49.960 drugged up and put back out on the street in 1:07:50.000 --> 1:07:52.360 a couple of days. Like it's a vicious cycle, which 1:07:52.440 --> 1:07:56.520 is a fact. I mean, like that's the whole like 1:07:56.640 --> 1:07:59.320 a huge problem with like, you know, the unhouse population 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:02.280 is that like even if you can get them temporary solutions, 1:08:02.320 --> 1:08:04.280 a lot of times they just end up getting put 1:08:04.360 --> 1:08:07.040 back out on the street by police, you know, like 1:08:07.120 --> 1:08:09.320 skid row in Los Angeles. It's like anytime a person 1:08:09.360 --> 1:08:10.720 gets out of the hospital and has nowhere to go. 1:08:10.800 --> 1:08:12.560 They drop them in skid Row. That's like the place, 1:08:12.600 --> 1:08:14.480 and that's why skid Row is the way it is. 1:08:14.640 --> 1:08:16.599 You know. It's just like a bit of a Mad 1:08:16.720 --> 1:08:19.680 Max kind of area, if you will. But there have 1:08:19.800 --> 1:08:22.599 to be other solutions. Other cities have solved these problems, 1:08:22.600 --> 1:08:25.400 and I don't understand why we can't. But that's another time. 1:08:26.080 --> 1:08:29.080 Lives like this guy was a professor. He was supposed 1:08:29.080 --> 1:08:31.920 to guide young minds, not destroy them. And Caresee's like, 1:08:32.040 --> 1:08:34.320 I'd kill that guy if he wasn't already dead, and 1:08:34.479 --> 1:08:38.960 liv goes, that's genius, Careesi. I'm gonna argue about the 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:41.719 genius of it all. But it's an idea. It's something 1:08:41.760 --> 1:08:44.799 to try, so now live but it's still her idea. 1:08:45.200 --> 1:08:48.360 He said, a thing that like inspired her, right right. 1:08:48.479 --> 1:08:50.000 It's like, no, you're a genius, but you just don't 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:51.240 want to call yourself a genius all the time. 1:08:51.240 --> 1:08:52.400 And I get it. You're a humble queen. 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:56.360 So Liv is now standing with Sophie in front of 1:08:56.439 --> 1:08:59.679 Logan Adam's gravestone, the professor who raped her and truly 1:08:59.880 --> 1:09:02.160 like ruined her life for the past three years, and 1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:05.040 she's breeding her him this statement. Reading the statement to 1:09:05.120 --> 1:09:07.639 the gravestone, like, she says, like the last three years 1:09:07.640 --> 1:09:09.599 of her life, she's been on the street, letting strange 1:09:09.640 --> 1:09:12.040 men use her body for food protection drugs. 1:09:12.439 --> 1:09:13.200 I was eighteen. 1:09:13.320 --> 1:09:15.760 I lost time with my friends, my studies, my dad. 1:09:16.120 --> 1:09:18.640 You got a few measly minutes of sexual gratification, and 1:09:18.760 --> 1:09:20.600 I lost my life. I will never forgive you for 1:09:20.720 --> 1:09:22.559 what you did to me, but hopefully I can move 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:25.320 on with the help from my family and friends. She 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:28.400 glances at Live and she said, I'm going to survive. 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:31.439 Yes I am, and then Live whispers yes you are 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:34.479 a couple of times to her, and that's dick wolf baby. 1:09:35.360 --> 1:09:37.120 That was some sorority shit at the end. 1:09:37.640 --> 1:09:43.519 Yeah, that was some sister shit. Sister shit, Yes for sure. 1:09:45.040 --> 1:09:50.160 So I'll take you on a journey. Yeah me, okay, 1:09:50.200 --> 1:09:59.719 I'm gonna take you on a journey. So this crime 1:10:00.400 --> 1:10:03.280 it's not this is like, this is actually really wild 1:10:03.520 --> 1:10:05.400 and there are I'll just get into it. 1:10:05.920 --> 1:10:08.759 So this woman's name is Hannah Up. Hannah's the twenty 1:10:08.840 --> 1:10:11.200 three what I lived in New York when this was happening. 1:10:11.320 --> 1:10:13.599 I totally forgot that this was based Oh my gosh, 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:15.400 this was wild when it was going on. But I 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:18.240 don't remember any of the details. But this that name. 1:10:18.360 --> 1:10:20.559 My sister and I talked about it all the time, 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:22.160 Like when I would be walking on the street, I'd 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.200 be like, I wonder if I'm gonna see her today, 1:10:24.240 --> 1:10:26.759 Like I would literally have my eyes peeled for her. Wow, 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:29.479 Like it was such a big story. Okay, but go on, 1:10:29.720 --> 1:10:32.240 I forget a lot of the details. Well yeah, okay, 1:10:32.520 --> 1:10:34.920 so it's she's at this time. 1:10:34.920 --> 1:10:38.920 It's two thousand and eight, and she's twenty three years old, 1:10:39.200 --> 1:10:41.799 and she's a teacher at Thurgood Marshall Academy in Harlem. 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:45.599 She graduated from Brinn mar So maybe that's a little spence. 1:10:45.760 --> 1:10:50.639 Vibe began teaching Spanish to more than two hundred seventh 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:53.720 and eighth graders while studying for her master's degree in 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:57.719 education at Pace University. She grew up in a small 1:10:57.760 --> 1:11:01.639 town in Oregon. She's the daughter of two pasts. Mom 1:11:01.720 --> 1:11:05.000 lived in Philly, dad lived in India. They got divorced. Okay, 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:09.040 so the dad's like really fundamentalists and kind of nuts 1:11:09.640 --> 1:11:13.000 and yeah, and then the whatever they're both like, I 1:11:13.120 --> 1:11:15.439 do have an issue with white ass missionaries that go 1:11:15.640 --> 1:11:20.360 to places and try to get people to be like Christian. Yeah, yeah, 1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:23.280 leave the Philippines alone. I don't know. I just like 1:11:23.400 --> 1:11:24.000 don't get it. 1:11:24.600 --> 1:11:24.920 I I. 1:11:26.439 --> 1:11:28.760 Don't get that in terms of service, it's like a 1:11:28.840 --> 1:11:32.120 cop out to actually doing anything. It bothers me. 1:11:32.320 --> 1:11:35.280 But anyways, yeah, I mean it's door to door sales essentially. 1:11:35.400 --> 1:11:37.519 It's just asking people right to get into your It's 1:11:37.560 --> 1:11:39.839 like Book of Mormon the musical. 1:11:40.240 --> 1:11:43.720 Yeah, but they're just so high and mighty. Yeah, like 1:11:44.000 --> 1:11:47.360 I don't know what. Anyways. September two thousand and eight, 1:11:47.760 --> 1:11:50.280 she doesn't show up to the first day of school, strange. 1:11:50.840 --> 1:11:53.920 Then her roommate finds her wallet, passport, metro card, and 1:11:54.040 --> 1:11:57.040 cell phone in her purse on the floor of the bedroom. 1:11:57.800 --> 1:12:00.640 She was missing for nearly two weeks, and then she 1:12:00.800 --> 1:12:04.200 was spotted at the Apple Store in Midtown. Her friends 1:12:04.240 --> 1:12:06.559 had been putting out thousands of flyers camping out at 1:12:06.600 --> 1:12:09.280 her apartment, you know, splitting up all the city parks 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:12.200 into quadrants. They sent groups of people into the woods. 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:15.320 I mean, she had a great group run through running paths. 1:12:15.439 --> 1:12:18.000 There's footage from the Apple store though, and a man 1:12:18.080 --> 1:12:21.200 approached her asked her if she was the missing teacher 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:25.560 in the news. So that interaction happened, and then so 1:12:25.640 --> 1:12:28.680 they showed Barbara Bells, the mom. She came down to 1:12:28.800 --> 1:12:31.040 town to watch the footage and she's like, yeah, let's 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:34.880 fud my fucking daughter. And at the Apple Store she 1:12:34.960 --> 1:12:37.760 logged into her Gmail account and then looked at it 1:12:37.840 --> 1:12:41.479 for a second and then left. But people really loved her, 1:12:41.520 --> 1:12:43.040 and you can see but like all the effort that 1:12:43.120 --> 1:12:45.360 went in, you know. And unfortunately the New Yorker did 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:48.080 say she lit up a room so dangerous. Come on, 1:12:49.439 --> 1:12:53.599 we gotta stop. Yeah, And she had no barriers with her. 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:55.960 Her friends said that, like everyone thought they were her 1:12:56.040 --> 1:12:59.280 closest friend and she really was raised to trust and 1:12:59.360 --> 1:13:02.799 care for people. And so then they had that sighting. 1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:05.000 And then two days after she was spotted at a 1:13:05.080 --> 1:13:08.519 Starbucks and soho as well, and then spotted at five 1:13:08.640 --> 1:13:12.600 New York sports clubs around Midtown. So September sixteenth, the 1:13:12.720 --> 1:13:15.960 captain of a Staten Island ferry saw a woman's body 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:19.280 bobbing in the water south of the Statue of Liberty 1:13:19.760 --> 1:13:22.080 and he goes, it's like so fucking rare to find 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:24.479 someone with like all this water it's like finding a 1:13:24.560 --> 1:13:27.080 b like a like a big pen. He's like a 1:13:27.600 --> 1:13:32.799 ballpoint pen in a sea. But this guy, Captain Christopher Cavella, 1:13:33.120 --> 1:13:37.240 was a mariner with thirty two years of experience and 1:13:37.320 --> 1:13:40.280 more than seventeen thousand trips on the Staten Island Ferry, 1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:42.479 and so thank god that he was there. They got 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:44.880 her and they thought she was dead, but when they 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:47.080 pulled her up, she took a giant gasp of air 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:51.920 and began crying. She was wearing only red running shorts 1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:54.880 and a black sports spra, so she was taken to 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:57.880 a medical Yes, wait, what SVU was it? 1:13:57.960 --> 1:14:02.080 Where someone does this? Remember there's an SVU where someone 1:14:02.200 --> 1:14:05.560 is in the water and they but they're alive and 1:14:05.600 --> 1:14:06.680 they're like hypothermic. 1:14:07.200 --> 1:14:11.120 Yeah, but they they they were lying. It was a fake. Okay, 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:13.240 it was fake. This isn't this isn't no, no, I 1:14:13.320 --> 1:14:13.960 know this isn't fake. 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:16.600 I was just like it felt like that sv like 1:14:16.840 --> 1:14:20.240 borrowed from this story then at one point but twisted it, 1:14:20.439 --> 1:14:21.160 you know, but. 1:14:21.240 --> 1:14:23.680 Go on, Yeah, I think the timing's off too. But 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:26.479 that one is the one where she like goes to 1:14:26.680 --> 1:14:30.000 find drugs but then like fucks up her room and 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:32.200 then her boyfriend starts like a Twitter account. 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:36.439 Yeah, Deborah, it's like all episode. Yeah, the red Head, 1:14:36.920 --> 1:14:39.320 the red Head, Yeah yeah. 1:14:39.240 --> 1:14:41.760 But I don't remember the main crime, like that's her 1:14:41.840 --> 1:14:43.760 faking But then they find someone or is there a 1:14:43.840 --> 1:14:47.600 false arrest or they start harassing the guy upstairs? Is 1:14:47.640 --> 1:14:50.719 it isolation? Is it the one? Is it the Cockerroach 1:14:50.800 --> 1:14:51.759 episode with Stabler? 1:14:51.960 --> 1:14:53.840 Oh my gosh, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold 1:14:53.880 --> 1:15:02.840 on hold seclusion? What is it called isolation? Solitary? It's solitary, Yes, solitary. 1:15:04.120 --> 1:15:05.240 We did it, everybody. 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:08.439 I mean that was really electric and like, I don't know, 1:15:08.600 --> 1:15:11.320 wearing a Benson shirt looking up it like it really 1:15:11.760 --> 1:15:14.639 it's like, I gotta get another one. And that episode 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:17.360 is from O nine. That episode is from O nine. 1:15:17.439 --> 1:15:21.360 I think they bond from this real story but made it, 1:15:21.760 --> 1:15:24.800 made it like, you know, the girl was faking it 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:26.679 or she put her she threw herself into the water 1:15:26.800 --> 1:15:27.120 or whatever. 1:15:28.280 --> 1:15:31.400 Damn okay away. So she's taken into a medical center 1:15:31.479 --> 1:15:35.240 on Staten Island. She's treated for hypothermia, dehydration, and severe 1:15:35.439 --> 1:15:38.519 sunburn that was left on the left side of her body. 1:15:38.880 --> 1:15:41.599 She also had a giant blister which is the only 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.360 physical record of like these weeks that she had on 1:15:44.439 --> 1:15:47.760 the move. And maybe she went to the water because 1:15:47.800 --> 1:15:52.560 her feet hurt, like yeah, so I don't know, But 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:55.040 for those three weeks she was unable to access her 1:15:55.080 --> 1:15:59.120 own story. She knew nothing. Finally, medical staff started asking 1:15:59.160 --> 1:16:01.479 her sons of questions and she started to snap back 1:16:01.520 --> 1:16:03.439 and knew her name, her mother's phone number. Her mom 1:16:03.560 --> 1:16:06.200 arrived within an hour of the call. Four of her 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:08.240 friends came to the hospital that day as well. She 1:16:08.400 --> 1:16:12.200 smiled at her roommate, Menuel Ramirez, and said, I hope 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:14.040 they released me soon because I have to set up 1:16:14.040 --> 1:16:17.760 my classroom. And that's according to the New Yorker. And 1:16:17.880 --> 1:16:20.680 then she's like she did not realize three weeks had 1:16:20.680 --> 1:16:23.880 gone by crazy. The last memories she had was taking 1:16:23.960 --> 1:16:26.439 a run in Riverside Park the day she went missing. 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:30.479 And then she also like explains how she was filled 1:16:30.520 --> 1:16:33.439 with like shame and embarrassment, guilt, like like she wanted 1:16:33.439 --> 1:16:35.360 to go back to her regular life. Everything was weird, 1:16:35.439 --> 1:16:36.960 and like she just felt bad and didn't know what 1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:39.760 to do. She was transferred to a psych unit in 1:16:39.840 --> 1:16:44.799 Columbia University Medical Center, and there was no neurological condition 1:16:45.200 --> 1:16:48.240 found at all that would cause her to forget her identity, 1:16:48.720 --> 1:16:51.240 so they concluded it had to be psychological in nature. 1:16:51.880 --> 1:16:55.120 And you know, she remembered details of her life prior 1:16:55.240 --> 1:16:58.320 to her disappearance, but nothing in those three weeks. So 1:16:58.800 --> 1:17:03.120 like in the episode, the diagon was disassociative fugue and 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:05.240 Kara said it, Yeah, it's a rare condition where people 1:17:05.320 --> 1:17:10.280 lose access to their autobiographical memory and personal identity, occasionally 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:12.640 adopting a new one and may and it could be 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:16.839 like a long fucking journey. And it's typically triggered by trauma, sexual, 1:17:16.920 --> 1:17:24.280 physical combat, natural disaster, or unbearable internal conflict. Wow, and 1:17:24.479 --> 1:17:26.600 they don't lose memory of like how to hail a 1:17:26.680 --> 1:17:30.680 cab or other mundane tasks. The only memory loss is 1:17:30.840 --> 1:17:36.600 tied to their identity. Yea, she could have still you know, 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:40.120 kept living. So then this is like probably also with 1:17:40.240 --> 1:17:43.240 the title of the episode, this guy Felipe Tissy, I 1:17:43.240 --> 1:17:44.960 don't know Tishy. There was there was a lot of 1:17:45.040 --> 1:17:49.120 accents in this upcoming philosophy section which I'm not I'm 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:54.240 not learning in new ways. Sorry, we're in America. I'm 1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:58.479 not active, I'm not putting on accents Felipe to see whatever. 1:17:58.600 --> 1:18:02.240 One of the first psychiatrics to study I mean I 1:18:02.280 --> 1:18:04.839 should respect him enough to learn how to say his name. Anyways, 1:18:05.439 --> 1:18:07.720 he was the first to study this, and he characterized 1:18:07.760 --> 1:18:12.639 it as a kind of self exile. Drink if you're 1:18:12.880 --> 1:18:18.040 home and safe. The French psychologist, I don't know what 1:18:18.439 --> 1:18:22.240 the word was on watching What Happens Live? Oh, I 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:25.639 forgot the drinking word. Did you guys drink? I don't 1:18:25.680 --> 1:18:28.479 know if Oh my gosh, well I watched it the 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:33.280 next morning on my DVR. Yeah, so I didn't. 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:36.760 I wasn't drinking, but I was really in a It 1:18:36.880 --> 1:18:39.320 was probably like West or Sierra or something like. 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:42.280 Wouldn't it be something somehow sy Yeah, for sure, I 1:18:42.520 --> 1:18:45.360 just like, don't. I didn't even you know, I was okay, 1:18:45.479 --> 1:18:48.800 at we're back, we're back, We're serious, Okay. French psychologists 1:18:48.880 --> 1:18:52.479 Pierre Janet again probably an accent A meeting Jane. 1:18:53.200 --> 1:19:04.120 Okay, so Pierre Janet, Pier Janet, Pierre, do not say Jane. 1:19:04.280 --> 1:19:06.479 It has to be Pierre Janet. It's Pierre Janet. 1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:16.679 So this French guy psychologist in eighteen eighty nine wrote, 1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:21.120 according to the New Yorker personal unity, identity initiative are 1:19:21.200 --> 1:19:25.919 not primitive characteristics of psychological life. They are incomplete results 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:31.400 acquired with difficulty after long work, and they remain very fragile. Wow, 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:34.640 we take a lot of us for granted, you know, 1:19:35.760 --> 1:19:40.200 and it keeps being added. So like at Selkardinia, professor 1:19:40.240 --> 1:19:44.360 of psychology at Lund University in Sweden, he's saying, this 1:19:44.520 --> 1:19:46.640 is like a phenomena that and this is again the 1:19:46.680 --> 1:19:49.480 New Yorker. I'm gonna keep mentioning it. So the phenomena 1:19:49.720 --> 1:19:54.080 that in quotes, it falls between the cracks of the 1:19:54.240 --> 1:19:59.000 house built by contemporary mainstream psychology. In our culture, we 1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:02.840 have a nice narrative that personality is stable. That is 1:20:02.920 --> 1:20:06.240 a fiction when a person enters a fugue and becomes 1:20:06.320 --> 1:20:10.439 someone else or isn't there. It's an exaggerated version of 1:20:10.560 --> 1:20:11.760 the way we all are. 1:20:13.360 --> 1:20:13.679 Wow. 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:19.000 So yeah, like a break from reality time. Who you 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:22.680 are like fucking crazy and we feel so I think 1:20:22.760 --> 1:20:25.960 attached to our personality is obviously our identity. 1:20:26.200 --> 1:20:28.760 We're going to be attached And it is wild because 1:20:28.800 --> 1:20:30.920 I always I'm always really. 1:20:32.400 --> 1:20:35.920 My heartstrings always get really pulled when schizophrenia gets brought 1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:38.200 up because it's like that too, where like we take 1:20:38.280 --> 1:20:40.519 it for granted and then you're like, what twenty seven 1:20:40.560 --> 1:20:42.960 and your brain breaks and suddenly you think like people 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:43.720 are out to get you. 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:44.640 Yeah, and. 1:20:46.560 --> 1:20:47.759 Kind of crazy to think about. 1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:50.720 Yeah, And I mean the girl in the episode goes, 1:20:50.920 --> 1:20:52.479 your brain trying to protect yourself. 1:20:53.000 --> 1:20:58.200 Yeah, And that's how dark shit is. Like it's because 1:20:58.200 --> 1:21:00.560 I'm also seeing it as physical cracks too, Like I 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.000 see it as like falling into the drawings of the brain. 1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:06.800 Like the the girl in the episode goes, this is 1:21:06.920 --> 1:21:10.080 so not like me, like right away, and you're like, okay, 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:14.439 so and then she obviously like she knew enough to 1:21:14.600 --> 1:21:18.679 like create this alternate identity about the therasca. 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:20.800 I'm gonna get there. I'm gonna get there. Okay, this 1:21:20.960 --> 1:21:26.400 is perfect, Okay. So okay, So and now you know hypnosis, 1:21:26.479 --> 1:21:30.400 we're going to talk about it, you know, trendle her Okay, Okay. 1:21:30.479 --> 1:21:32.599 So they tried to get her to recall a traumatic event, 1:21:32.680 --> 1:21:34.960 but she really couldn't remember anything unusual. She just couldn't. 1:21:35.360 --> 1:21:38.040 Hypnosis did not work in that way. They trecked her 1:21:38.080 --> 1:21:40.799 around places like in the show to trigger some memories, 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:43.880 so places that she usually went from her past, and 1:21:43.960 --> 1:21:47.400 it felt like because she was just continually roaming during 1:21:47.439 --> 1:21:51.800 this time and she did return to familiar shit. So 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:55.080 she was a freakin, which is crazy. So she knew 1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:58.479 how to eat from the streets, okay, And then so 1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:01.439 she went to this Japanese floor vating lantern ceremony at 1:22:01.439 --> 1:22:04.200 a peer to memorialize nine to eleven at one point, 1:22:04.880 --> 1:22:07.720 and she grew up in a Japanese American church even 1:22:07.720 --> 1:22:09.880 though both her parents were American, her mom spoke fluent 1:22:09.960 --> 1:22:12.000 Japanese and had taught in Japan. So it was like 1:22:12.760 --> 1:22:15.960 she was drawn to the familiar. Got it, got it? 1:22:16.080 --> 1:22:18.599 She had gone to the ceremony honoring nine to eleven 1:22:18.800 --> 1:22:20.720 and then went back to the pier three days later 1:22:20.800 --> 1:22:24.080 and entered the water and the Japanese stuff like, and 1:22:24.160 --> 1:22:26.160 then the time she spent in the water, she was 1:22:26.240 --> 1:22:29.960 laying on rocks, holding onto barges, swimming and like. So 1:22:30.120 --> 1:22:32.839 when she needed to survive, her brain kept her alive, 1:22:33.080 --> 1:22:35.920 but not there and she was missing for like, I 1:22:35.920 --> 1:22:39.679 don't know, it keeps changing from three weeks to seventeen days, 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:42.960 Like the days are not consistent in any of that 1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:46.679 because I use a couple other sources and so people 1:22:47.800 --> 1:22:49.960 in fugue states, like I said, adopt new identities, but 1:22:50.040 --> 1:22:52.639 for Hannah, it was more like a complete absence of identity. 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:54.920 Her mother tells The New Yorker. It was like a 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:59.400 dangerous nothingness, Oh my gosh. And it was just nothingness. 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:01.880 And also so the sunburn, Like while she was there, 1:23:01.960 --> 1:23:04.080 she while she was grabbing onto rocks, that's how she 1:23:04.200 --> 1:23:06.760 was able to survive, and that's the sunburn. So she 1:23:06.800 --> 1:23:09.439 would sleep on these big rocks and then get sunburned, 1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:12.559 like everything all her like her body told the tale 1:23:12.600 --> 1:23:15.880 of all this too. But survive wildly by holding onto 1:23:15.920 --> 1:23:18.360 shit and in the water in the cold, and you 1:23:18.439 --> 1:23:21.160 have no control over what you are doing is so 1:23:21.600 --> 1:23:22.479 fucking scary. 1:23:23.080 --> 1:23:25.439 Yeah, because like she obviously entered the water at a 1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:27.840 place where she could have gone back to shore but 1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:31.080 didn't and just kind of drifted out and then survived 1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:35.559 by sheer muscle memory maybe like crazy. 1:23:36.479 --> 1:23:38.479 But also if the captain one minute later should have 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.479 been dead because they found her face down, oh shit. 1:23:43.320 --> 1:23:45.280 So I don't know, or her body would have saved her. 1:23:45.320 --> 1:23:46.120 I kept saving her. 1:23:46.640 --> 1:23:46.920 Wow. 1:23:47.760 --> 1:23:50.320 So after this ordeal, she left the city and moved 1:23:50.320 --> 1:23:51.960 in with her mom in Pendall Hill, which is a 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:54.800 Quaker area in Pennsylvania. And she was there for three 1:23:54.920 --> 1:23:59.040 years and like got you know, like worked in Montessori 1:23:59.240 --> 1:24:02.280 school and was into like Montsory education. I mean she 1:24:02.400 --> 1:24:04.800 was like a teacher, was getting that certification. And then 1:24:04.800 --> 1:24:06.960 she went to be an assistant at a Monascori school 1:24:07.000 --> 1:24:12.920 in Maryland and it was for underserved children. And then 1:24:12.960 --> 1:24:14.600 on the first day of class, her mother got a 1:24:14.640 --> 1:24:17.559 call from police and her purse, wallet, phone had been 1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:21.880 found on a wooden footpath in Kensington, Maryland. A. Yeah, 1:24:21.920 --> 1:24:24.360 a colleague saw her walking the wrong direction of the school. 1:24:24.760 --> 1:24:27.320 So my thing is and it's like obviously you need 1:24:27.360 --> 1:24:29.720 to like goal of your life, but I would never 1:24:29.800 --> 1:24:31.280 let her out of my sight, like I don't know 1:24:31.760 --> 1:24:36.000 or like a GPS like this is where we got toes. 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:40.600 Well yeah, but this this is like before AirTag. So 1:24:41.760 --> 1:24:44.320 they looked for her and found out she didn't sleep 1:24:44.360 --> 1:24:46.360 at her place, had not been seen for twenty four hours, 1:24:46.400 --> 1:24:48.040 and then at ten thirty pm the next day, the 1:24:48.080 --> 1:24:50.880 mom got a call. Hannah found herself in a dirty 1:24:51.040 --> 1:24:53.240 creek in Wheat in Maryland, a mile and a half 1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:55.800 from her school, with a shopping cart next to her 1:24:56.320 --> 1:24:58.759 she'd been she'd realized she'd been walking for two days 1:24:59.360 --> 1:25:02.080 and when she to use a stranger's phone then to 1:25:02.200 --> 1:25:06.360 call her mom, her friends and me, probably are you 1:25:06.439 --> 1:25:08.519 less sing? I don't know, like you're all seeing this. 1:25:08.680 --> 1:25:10.840 The connection is it's the beginning of the school year, 1:25:12.000 --> 1:25:15.240 and I found out that she always traveled in August 1:25:15.320 --> 1:25:19.400 before school started with her father. Oh, there was always 1:25:19.479 --> 1:25:22.880 this trip with her father. There's no accusation or anything, 1:25:22.960 --> 1:25:24.760 but in my head, I'm like, the father has something 1:25:24.800 --> 1:25:26.760 to do with us. But anyways, it was always the 1:25:26.800 --> 1:25:28.960 beginning of the school year, so something might have happened 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:30.960 or it was just like overloading. And then also both 1:25:31.040 --> 1:25:34.040 times she found herself in bodies of water, so what 1:25:34.240 --> 1:25:34.759 is happening. 1:25:35.400 --> 1:25:37.680 Also is the dad coming back into the picture from 1:25:37.720 --> 1:25:39.960 India now that is at one of his daughter going 1:25:40.000 --> 1:25:41.519 through this big ordeal three years ago. 1:25:42.040 --> 1:25:44.240 She kept visiting. There was like a lot about their 1:25:44.400 --> 1:25:47.800 past and like being past years and stuff like you know, 1:25:48.320 --> 1:25:50.760 the New Yorker really likes to fluff it up. I 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:53.400 didn't want to. I didn't include everything, but you like 1:25:53.600 --> 1:25:59.080 reader or no, I'm just literally she continued me too immediately, 1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:01.920 But yeah, they like snuck it in that he she 1:26:02.040 --> 1:26:04.640 did always do trips with him before school started, and 1:26:04.720 --> 1:26:06.640 like met him where he was. He's always traveling. He's 1:26:06.640 --> 1:26:08.040 in India now, but he was like all over the 1:26:08.080 --> 1:26:10.880 place and he's just like by the but like he 1:26:11.320 --> 1:26:14.000 seems annoying and weird. And I wonder if there's religious 1:26:14.040 --> 1:26:16.719 trauma or something because or not, or it's the school, 1:26:16.880 --> 1:26:19.720 or it's none of these things. But nothing came out. 1:26:19.760 --> 1:26:22.200 She doesn't know the trauma, but her brain might be 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:24.760 saving herself. I don't know. Yeah, but those are just 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:27.000 the three connections. It's like the timing and the water. 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:30.240 So she got very into Montessory, like I said. So 1:26:30.360 --> 1:26:35.800 then she moves to Saint Thomas, an island surrounded by water. 1:26:36.040 --> 1:26:38.799 Surrounded by water. Now, she loved being in the island. 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.160 She was an amazing teacher. The heads of school loved her. 1:26:41.240 --> 1:26:43.360 They're like, when we had to show people about like 1:26:43.920 --> 1:26:46.760 how great her teachers are, we would take him to 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:50.200 her class. Like everyone loves this bitch. Like she seemed 1:26:50.280 --> 1:26:55.040 to be really like educated, sweet, empathetic, fun caring, like 1:26:56.080 --> 1:26:58.920 she seemed to be the full package. So now it's 1:26:58.920 --> 1:27:02.639 September sixth, twenty seventeen, We're getting ready for Hurricane Irma, 1:27:03.320 --> 1:27:06.120 and she contacted friends. She's like, hey, I'm safe, but 1:27:06.200 --> 1:27:09.760 the island is devastated. And then another Hurricane Maria was 1:27:09.800 --> 1:27:12.360 coming soon. Her old friends checked in on her, and 1:27:12.439 --> 1:27:15.040 they actually had a code after everything took place, like 1:27:15.080 --> 1:27:17.280 that's why me she had such a support system. But 1:27:17.360 --> 1:27:19.559 I also would be like, you're not moving to Saint Thomas, 1:27:19.920 --> 1:27:24.719 Like I don't know, but you gotta live your you know, okay. 1:27:25.000 --> 1:27:29.600 So basically their little code was after the first, you know, 1:27:29.720 --> 1:27:32.240 big story that you remember and everything. She did an 1:27:32.280 --> 1:27:35.640 interview with ABC News, and ABC described Hannah as a 1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:40.360 friendly vegetarian who likes to try new dishes. So her 1:27:40.439 --> 1:27:44.040 friends would go friendly vegetarian and she would respond, who 1:27:44.120 --> 1:27:47.080 likes to try new dishes? And that was yeah, I 1:27:47.280 --> 1:27:50.760 like that, and she did that. She did that post 1:27:51.000 --> 1:27:53.280 and then like, but her roommates were leaving the island, 1:27:53.360 --> 1:27:56.040 her boyfriend was leaving the island. She's like, I'm staying 1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:58.280 in my island. My heart says, I have to stay here. 1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:01.120 You know, school's gonna be the first step of normalcy 1:28:01.200 --> 1:28:02.760 for these children, and I want to be here for 1:28:02.880 --> 1:28:05.760 these children. The next morning, though she didn't show up 1:28:05.800 --> 1:28:08.920 to school. After three days, nobody heard from her or 1:28:09.000 --> 1:28:13.160 seen from her state's island nowhere and again the same 1:28:13.240 --> 1:28:18.240 time of year, September. Yeah, so the state friends, the 1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:20.600 state side friends told the island friends like go to 1:28:20.680 --> 1:28:22.519 bodies of water search for her. And all these bodies 1:28:22.520 --> 1:28:24.360 of waters they went to all her favorite beaches and 1:28:24.400 --> 1:28:27.240 then they found like a bar near the water where 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:29.840 she always liked to go. And the bar, while they 1:28:29.880 --> 1:28:33.080 were cleaning shit from the hurricane, found her son dressed 1:28:33.080 --> 1:28:37.200 sandals and car keys in the debut. Oh no, her 1:28:37.240 --> 1:28:39.439 car was in the parking lot and inside was her 1:28:39.520 --> 1:28:42.479 perse wallet, passport's cell phone. This is what Okay, So 1:28:42.600 --> 1:28:44.559 this is wild. I can't believe it happened again. There 1:28:44.800 --> 1:28:45.920 must have been a way to help her. I'm like 1:28:46.000 --> 1:28:48.200 so mad at everyone, Like it's really pissing. I don't know. 1:28:48.320 --> 1:28:52.920 I have really like not good reactions, not combactionate enough 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:55.720 as I should be. So she and she'd been good 1:28:55.760 --> 1:28:58.360 for years though years this is twenty seventeen, so like 1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:00.439 she was working on her training, working on the island. 1:29:00.520 --> 1:29:02.360 Her marm and Barbara went down there immediately and then 1:29:02.360 --> 1:29:03.439 spent months searching for her. 1:29:03.520 --> 1:29:03.720 Daughter. 1:29:04.400 --> 1:29:07.280 So in January twenty eighteen, two caseworkers at the bethlam 1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:10.200 House shelter for the homeless in downtown Saint Thomas reported 1:29:10.240 --> 1:29:12.360 they had just seen Hannah at an abandoned building where 1:29:12.360 --> 1:29:15.439 people smoke crack. So that Barbara and a detective from 1:29:15.439 --> 1:29:19.439 the Virgin Islands Police Department, Albion George drove, sorry, I'm 1:29:19.439 --> 1:29:22.320 thinking about Janet again, Okay, drove to the three story 1:29:22.400 --> 1:29:24.519 structure and they did find a woman, but it was 1:29:24.600 --> 1:29:27.960 not Hannah. Then. The last update was from the Virgin 1:29:28.040 --> 1:29:30.680 Islands Daily News from November twenty twenty four that the 1:29:30.760 --> 1:29:35.719 school honored the missing teacher. It would oh, it would 1:29:35.760 --> 1:29:38.360 have been her fortieth birthday on November twenty ninth, twenty 1:29:38.400 --> 1:29:38.880 twenty four. 1:29:39.600 --> 1:29:43.200 Wow. I did not fucking know this happened to this girl, 1:29:43.320 --> 1:29:45.080 Like I only knew the New York piece of this. 1:29:45.720 --> 1:29:48.000 I know, it's really sad. She's been missing now for 1:29:48.120 --> 1:29:51.919 over seven years. Last scene on the morning of September fourteenth, 1:29:52.040 --> 1:29:56.599 twenty seventeen. And yeah, so the associate of fugue rare 1:29:56.680 --> 1:30:00.479 form of amnesia. Suddenly you just forget every it can 1:30:00.520 --> 1:30:04.960 be from a few years, few hours, too years and 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:06.760 if you want to know more, you guys can watch 1:30:06.800 --> 1:30:07.639 the Bourne identity. 1:30:07.840 --> 1:30:11.280 Jason Bourne is the most famous sufferer of disassociated fuchus, 1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:13.800 And that's stated by the New York Times. So I'm 1:30:13.840 --> 1:30:18.080 not trying to be like a smart ass. And Jason 1:30:18.160 --> 1:30:20.560 Bourne was actually named after the first recorded case of 1:30:20.600 --> 1:30:23.800 the condition by a man, Anselborne, who was a Rhode 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:27.280 Island preacher who had this happened in eighteen eighty seven 1:30:27.800 --> 1:30:30.680 where he was traveling to Providence, when he actually just 1:30:30.760 --> 1:30:34.000 went to Norristown, Pennsylvania, opened a store, lived with another family, 1:30:34.080 --> 1:30:35.600 and then one day he woke up and went what 1:30:35.720 --> 1:30:37.439 the fuck and then went back to his old life. 1:30:38.360 --> 1:30:38.599 Yeah. 1:30:39.280 --> 1:30:42.560 And it says that travel is a big defining characteristic 1:30:42.640 --> 1:30:47.520 of this doctor Philip Koon's, a professor emeritus of psychiatry 1:30:47.520 --> 1:30:50.719 at Indiana University, quoted to the New York Times. People 1:30:50.800 --> 1:30:53.639 have been known to not only travel across cities or countries, 1:30:53.680 --> 1:30:58.360 but also across continents. The explanation behind the fugue is 1:30:58.439 --> 1:31:01.240 that the person is running away a bad situation, a 1:31:01.320 --> 1:31:04.559 bad marriage, or a bad financial situation. But we never 1:31:04.640 --> 1:31:06.800 figured out this bad thing that happened to Hannah, or 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:10.080 if something happened, you know, Like I said, the trips 1:31:10.840 --> 1:31:14.880 that have to do with visiting her father tied to 1:31:14.960 --> 1:31:19.479 the school anything. We really don't know any information, and 1:31:19.560 --> 1:31:22.040 it's like so sad and such a sad end and 1:31:22.280 --> 1:31:25.760 like you know, it's it's always like a blessing when 1:31:25.760 --> 1:31:28.120 you don't have to talk about horrific sexual abuse. But 1:31:28.360 --> 1:31:29.760 this is like really sad. 1:31:29.960 --> 1:31:30.120 You know. 1:31:30.320 --> 1:31:33.719 I wish it ended in New York and she could. 1:31:33.600 --> 1:31:35.920 And nothing jogged for her when she was back in 1:31:36.040 --> 1:31:39.840 like her regular moments of living life, like right, like wow, 1:31:40.640 --> 1:31:44.360 oh god, that's horrible, horrible. I watched a show on 1:31:44.439 --> 1:31:46.960 Netflix called Marcella that was about a woman who was 1:31:47.040 --> 1:31:49.200 like a detective, but she would also block out and 1:31:49.240 --> 1:31:51.760 have these fugue states as well. But I think that 1:31:51.920 --> 1:31:54.400 was trauma related because her child had died or something 1:31:54.520 --> 1:31:57.080 like that. So I hope none of us, none of 1:31:57.120 --> 1:32:00.519 you listening, ever go into a fugue. Yes, yes, not 1:32:00.600 --> 1:32:06.560 wishing fugues on anyone right now. Wow, Well, we have 1:32:06.640 --> 1:32:10.040 a great interview coming up to cleanse the palette that 1:32:10.439 --> 1:32:12.280 this will be an interview you want to remember, so 1:32:13.040 --> 1:32:23.000 don't go anywhere. Our guest today is a dancer, theater 1:32:23.080 --> 1:32:25.840 director and actor who you may have seen in shows 1:32:25.960 --> 1:32:28.600 like FBI or The Enemy Within, but you know her 1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:33.439 best as a sufferer of dissociated fugue disorder Grace Walker 1:32:33.560 --> 1:32:36.840 slash Sophie Simmons. Please enjoy our chat with the very 1:32:36.960 --> 1:32:42.680 lovely aim spring Foreshad. First things, first performance, thanks for 1:32:42.800 --> 1:32:43.200 being here. 1:32:43.439 --> 1:32:44.680 Oh, thank you so much. 1:32:44.920 --> 1:32:48.200 Before we jump into that, I was obviously scrolling your 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:51.200 Instagram and I saw a picture. I saw multiple pictures 1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:55.200 of you with Keelee Miller. Oh my, we've just interviewed. 1:32:55.640 --> 1:32:58.080 Like the episode hasn't even come out, it's coming out 1:32:58.160 --> 1:32:58.840 like next week. 1:32:59.720 --> 1:33:01.240 Oh. I just thought that was so saying. 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:02.879 It was like the two of you at like Paramore, 1:33:02.960 --> 1:33:05.759 and I was like, look at this, these two yes cowls. 1:33:06.200 --> 1:33:07.000 What a big part? 1:33:07.439 --> 1:33:07.639 Yeah? 1:33:08.120 --> 1:33:11.120 How did you prep? By mean you're crying or you know, 1:33:11.280 --> 1:33:13.160 you don't know what's happening, Like, so what's the prep 1:33:13.240 --> 1:33:15.360 for a big part like this? There was a lot 1:33:15.400 --> 1:33:15.840 of crying. 1:33:16.840 --> 1:33:19.120 No, what's crazy is I know Keeley from this acting 1:33:19.200 --> 1:33:21.880 class that we were in where like you spend like 1:33:22.280 --> 1:33:28.000 years perfecting, you know, like Maggie the Cat and I 1:33:28.120 --> 1:33:31.439 got this audition and I guess they thought I lived 1:33:31.439 --> 1:33:35.120 in LA because I like switched agencies and so I 1:33:35.400 --> 1:33:38.800 like shot it in you know, twelve hours, and then 1:33:38.840 --> 1:33:41.920 I sent it in and then actually, like all my 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:44.280 friends were getting calls back for it, and I was like, 1:33:44.320 --> 1:33:46.080 I thought I did really well. Like they usually called 1:33:46.160 --> 1:33:47.360 me back, like why did I have to send a 1:33:47.400 --> 1:33:50.320 self tape? Usually they just like bring me in And 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:53.479 I heard nothing. And then like two days before they 1:33:53.520 --> 1:33:56.759 started shooting, my agent was like they're calling and asking 1:33:56.800 --> 1:33:58.320 if you have a place to stay in New York. 1:33:59.240 --> 1:34:00.800 I don't know what they mean by that, And I 1:34:00.920 --> 1:34:03.559 was like what. And so I guess I got cast 1:34:03.760 --> 1:34:06.760 thinking that I had to be like, you know, like 1:34:06.880 --> 1:34:10.360 fly myself to New York. And so I had like 1:34:10.479 --> 1:34:12.240 no time to prep and I was like, this is 1:34:12.320 --> 1:34:15.519 like the biggest, like the most amount of like heavy 1:34:15.560 --> 1:34:18.160 scenework I've ever had to do in my life, and uh, 1:34:18.880 --> 1:34:19.519 I just have to. 1:34:19.600 --> 1:34:22.559 Like show up and do my best. So you got 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:26.200 the script just two days before and that was that. Yeah. 1:34:26.720 --> 1:34:28.599 I mean I think I got like the first draft 1:34:28.680 --> 1:34:30.960 for an audition the audition, but like I had kind 1:34:31.000 --> 1:34:32.880 of forgotten about it because I thought, I, you know, 1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:33.760 didn't get it. 1:34:34.040 --> 1:34:37.280 So yeah, so that was intense. It was like a 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:41.280 good I like, you know, I like love to prepare. 1:34:41.400 --> 1:34:44.040 I'm like, you know, love to put a lot of 1:34:44.120 --> 1:34:47.240 work in and I just like was stripped of my 1:34:47.640 --> 1:34:48.920 crazy security blanket. 1:34:49.280 --> 1:34:52.840 It's so crazy how quick casting goes. Sometimes you're like, yeah, 1:34:52.880 --> 1:34:55.000 I can't give people a week, like come. 1:34:54.920 --> 1:34:58.640 On, yeah, did you kind of light like for the 1:34:58.720 --> 1:35:02.720 future now or you did you enjoy not having that 1:35:02.800 --> 1:35:04.599 time to prep or you like fuck that I want 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:05.200 to prep. 1:35:06.680 --> 1:35:10.639 I yeah, I think I would have liked a calmer 1:35:10.840 --> 1:35:13.880 nervous system like which like the preparation does. 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:17.479 But it's funny because so the last okay, am I 1:35:17.520 --> 1:35:20.160 write that down and I kind of love that preparation 1:35:20.479 --> 1:35:21.719 calms the nervous system. 1:35:22.560 --> 1:35:25.840 Sometimes sometimes you can like over prepare. Yeah, it does 1:35:25.920 --> 1:35:28.360 for me because I like to you know, I don't 1:35:28.439 --> 1:35:33.519 like surprises. But so the the scene where I flipped 1:35:33.520 --> 1:35:38.960 the table, that was like not originally part of the script. 1:35:39.360 --> 1:35:43.080 That was something that they did like a reshoot like that. 1:35:43.280 --> 1:35:45.400 That was like a week before the episode aired. They 1:35:45.439 --> 1:35:48.240 were like they called me at like seven pm and 1:35:48.280 --> 1:35:50.080 they were like, we're doing reshoots. Can you come in 1:35:50.120 --> 1:35:53.400 tomorrow at eight am and I was like directing a 1:35:53.439 --> 1:35:55.960 play at the time, and we had it was our opening. 1:35:55.760 --> 1:35:59.400 Night that BA was like a tea in a movie night. 1:36:00.120 --> 1:36:00.280 Yeah. 1:36:00.479 --> 1:36:01.920 So I was like coming out of tech. 1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:04.880 I like hadn't showered in a week and I'd been 1:36:04.960 --> 1:36:07.880 like eating Bodega sandwiches and they were like, you come 1:36:07.960 --> 1:36:10.360 and like shoot this big scene or like I didn't 1:36:10.360 --> 1:36:11.360 know what it was. They were like, we just need 1:36:11.400 --> 1:36:13.320 to do some reshoots. And then I get the script 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:15.640 and I'm like, oh my god, this is like the 1:36:15.720 --> 1:36:18.280 emotional crisis of the whole episode and I have to 1:36:18.400 --> 1:36:21.960 like flip a table and like push met harget day 1:36:22.040 --> 1:36:25.920 and like break glasses and I was like, oh my god. 1:36:26.520 --> 1:36:31.720 And so I that was the moment where like I 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:33.680 showed up the next morning and I was just like 1:36:34.040 --> 1:36:36.280 it took us like twenty minutes to shoot it because 1:36:36.280 --> 1:36:39.040 I was just like I didn't need anything the whole time. 1:36:39.120 --> 1:36:41.080 Like I didn't I it was just me the whole time, 1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:43.400 Like I just needed to show up as myself and like, 1:36:44.080 --> 1:36:49.200 you know, uncover all my fears or uh, you know, 1:36:49.320 --> 1:36:50.920 I didn't need any work. It's kind of like what 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:53.760 it felt like at the end. But yeah, so that's 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:57.560 the scene that felt like I really got her. And 1:36:58.240 --> 1:37:00.880 uh it was like three weeks after we wrapped, so 1:37:01.479 --> 1:37:03.280 maybe it just like needed some time to marinate. 1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:06.280 How and then I'm really interested at the fight. In 1:37:06.360 --> 1:37:11.160 the fight scene with the trash bags, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 1:37:11.560 --> 1:37:16.160 So the guy who played my boyfriend, James, he was 1:37:16.320 --> 1:37:19.640 a doll. He's like this wonderful, wonderful person and we 1:37:19.720 --> 1:37:21.519 had like theater friends in commons, so I was like, 1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:23.360 oh my gosh, just like wreck me. 1:37:23.560 --> 1:37:25.759 Like like I just was like, let's just like fully commit. 1:37:26.520 --> 1:37:29.400 And I did get some bruises, but I had like 1:37:29.479 --> 1:37:31.479 I did have a stunt double who was like teaching 1:37:31.600 --> 1:37:33.719 me how to like and of course the trash bags 1:37:33.720 --> 1:37:37.000 are all like full of you know, like pillows, so 1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:39.320 when I like fell down, I was like on a 1:37:40.200 --> 1:37:44.519 but yeah, I had to like panhandle and uh, you 1:37:44.640 --> 1:37:47.960 know I got to shake shake some like my cup 1:37:48.000 --> 1:37:51.880 of change for some walker buyers that were not aware 1:37:51.920 --> 1:37:52.519 we were filming. 1:37:52.640 --> 1:37:55.520 So that was fun too. Did you get any donations? 1:37:56.760 --> 1:37:59.559 I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't 1:37:59.560 --> 1:38:00.760 think I sad enough. 1:38:01.920 --> 1:38:03.640 There was like one regret I had because there's a 1:38:03.680 --> 1:38:07.240 close up in that scene of like my hands, and 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:11.280 I remember being like, well, I don't want to have 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:14.759 like gross nails on camera, but I I'm also supposed 1:38:14.760 --> 1:38:17.240 to be homeless, so I got a manicure with like 1:38:17.400 --> 1:38:20.320 clear nail polish. And for me, that was like the 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:22.719 dead giveaway. I was like, this girl is not homeless. 1:38:23.240 --> 1:38:26.960 I was mortified. I was like I can't believe I 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:30.960 did that. But anyway, wow, so yeah, this must have 1:38:31.000 --> 1:38:31.759 been like huge. 1:38:31.800 --> 1:38:33.879 Okay, and then you got to have so much FaceTime 1:38:33.920 --> 1:38:38.599 with Marishka supportive, lovely, amazing, the usual. 1:38:40.000 --> 1:38:43.760 Oh yeah, yeah, she's amazing. It's also like a well 1:38:43.840 --> 1:38:48.080 oiled machine where like there's a new girl every week 1:38:48.160 --> 1:38:52.400 who's like got a lot of emotional stuff and they're 1:38:52.520 --> 1:38:57.200 like ready with the you know, emergency room with water 1:38:57.360 --> 1:38:59.479 and tissues and like yes there is. 1:38:59.640 --> 1:39:03.280 She is like wonderful at holding space. Like after the. 1:39:04.800 --> 1:39:09.599 After the scene the like pen on the couch scene, 1:39:11.040 --> 1:39:15.120 I like kind of had a panic attack because I 1:39:15.240 --> 1:39:18.439 was like breathing so weirdly like I was. I don't 1:39:18.479 --> 1:39:20.600 I didn't mean to like induce a panic attack, but 1:39:20.680 --> 1:39:24.360 I kind of did. And yeah, and she just kind 1:39:24.400 --> 1:39:27.240 of like swept me into this like other room and 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:29.400 closed the door and just like breathed with me and 1:39:29.520 --> 1:39:32.080 we had water and we chatted and and then I 1:39:32.160 --> 1:39:34.120 ended up like having lunch with her in the trailer 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:36.639 later and we like talked about her trauma. 1:39:36.920 --> 1:39:40.240 It was like, Wow, what'd you guys have to Yeah, 1:39:40.960 --> 1:39:43.320 what do we have to eat? Okay, I'm like, what's 1:39:43.400 --> 1:39:44.280 Mariskau's trauma? 1:39:44.360 --> 1:39:45.479 You're like, what'd you guys eat? 1:39:46.520 --> 1:39:46.720 Well? 1:39:47.439 --> 1:39:49.400 I feel like we all know Marishka's trauma because she 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:55.800 was like yeah, like true, but okay, I remember. I 1:39:55.840 --> 1:39:58.679 don't remember what I ate that day, but I do remember, 1:39:59.280 --> 1:40:02.600 like when you're at base camp in Chelsea Peers the 1:40:02.680 --> 1:40:05.599 food being like so good, oh really, and me being 1:40:05.760 --> 1:40:10.000 like wow, they're like scallops and like lamb like nice yes, 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:13.360 and me being like this is amazing, and everyone's like yeah, 1:40:14.040 --> 1:40:14.200 you know. 1:40:14.880 --> 1:40:17.519 I was like very impressed, and I felt I don't know, 1:40:17.520 --> 1:40:19.640 I felt poor. Listen because even when you said I'm 1:40:19.680 --> 1:40:22.759 like good quality fresh, I was imagining juices. I really, 1:40:23.280 --> 1:40:25.880 I can't believe there's scallops and lamb. That's wild. 1:40:26.400 --> 1:40:30.559 Yeah, I was having a scallop'd shoot that's like for lunch. 1:40:30.840 --> 1:40:32.200 Wolf, Stop fucking around? 1:40:34.040 --> 1:40:36.880 How is that scene with the two douchebags at the bar, Like, 1:40:36.960 --> 1:40:38.760 it's probably not the first scene. It's the first scene 1:40:38.800 --> 1:40:41.040 where we meet you pretty much, but like it's not 1:40:41.080 --> 1:40:43.519 it probably wasn't the first one you shot, but no. 1:40:43.800 --> 1:40:45.920 Actually the first one I shot was the last scene 1:40:45.920 --> 1:40:50.040 in the the episode in the graveyard in the rain. 1:40:50.320 --> 1:40:50.679 Wow. 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:53.439 Yeah, that was like the. 1:40:53.520 --> 1:40:57.400 First time I met everyone, and I like, I don't 1:40:57.439 --> 1:40:58.880 think I slept the night before because I was like, 1:40:59.520 --> 1:41:03.160 this is just like so much on the first day 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:04.559 and I'm going to like meet everybody. 1:41:05.439 --> 1:41:07.840 So for all that, let me ask, because you're holding 1:41:07.920 --> 1:41:09.920 a piece of paper that you're reading off of are 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:10.680 you reading your line? 1:41:10.680 --> 1:41:12.720 Are you really reading the speech off of it? Or 1:41:12.800 --> 1:41:13.600 did you memorize it? 1:41:14.520 --> 1:41:14.640 Oh? 1:41:14.680 --> 1:41:17.519 I memorized okay, yeah yeah yeah. 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:21.479 But I also was like referring to it yeah yeah, yeah, 1:41:21.640 --> 1:41:24.360 that's like a actor thing because like fuck, you know, 1:41:24.560 --> 1:41:27.000 props will like fuck you, Yeah. 1:41:27.040 --> 1:41:28.719 Something will happen and you'll lose your place. 1:41:28.840 --> 1:41:31.960 So yeah, that was the first scene we shot, and 1:41:32.120 --> 1:41:35.240 I was relieved to get it over with, but also 1:41:35.439 --> 1:41:38.360 like it was a big one to jump in on 1:41:38.439 --> 1:41:41.040 and it was raining. It was like five am, and 1:41:41.120 --> 1:41:43.519 then I think I think that's we had a really 1:41:43.640 --> 1:41:46.200 really long day of shooting at that bar. It was 1:41:46.280 --> 1:41:48.200 like a se It was like a sixteen hour day, 1:41:48.280 --> 1:41:52.200 I think because they I think I think they had 1:41:52.240 --> 1:41:53.920 like a rain machine. 1:41:54.680 --> 1:41:56.800 Or somebody that really raining. They just wanted you to 1:41:56.880 --> 1:42:00.599 be like, yeah, doing your hair and the blower and everything. Yeah, 1:42:01.439 --> 1:42:04.120 So that was that leather jacket was awesome. 1:42:04.280 --> 1:42:04.600 Thank you. 1:42:04.920 --> 1:42:08.880 It was prada. I felt, yeah, I knew it was good. 1:42:08.960 --> 1:42:10.599 I can't believe it was not a leather jacket. 1:42:10.640 --> 1:42:11.840 Wow, I know. 1:42:12.200 --> 1:42:14.880 And then that I remember like them asking me the cosh. 1:42:15.040 --> 1:42:16.400 We had like a bunch of stuff for that for 1:42:16.479 --> 1:42:19.200 opening scene, and they were like, which one do you think? 1:42:19.280 --> 1:42:21.280 And I was like, I want this shirt because it's 1:42:21.320 --> 1:42:24.360 like a found object. I wanted to feel like she 1:42:24.520 --> 1:42:26.519 found it somewhere. And she made a dress out of 1:42:26.600 --> 1:42:26.880 it and. 1:42:28.360 --> 1:42:29.559 They had to like add. 1:42:29.640 --> 1:42:31.920 Stuff to the bottom because it was like too short, 1:42:33.280 --> 1:42:34.840 oh television. 1:42:35.240 --> 1:42:37.920 So but yeah, the scene in the bar was super fun. 1:42:38.000 --> 1:42:41.439 Actually, I feel like any anything where I wasn't crying 1:42:41.680 --> 1:42:44.400 was like a joy. It was like a nice break 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:48.479 from the trauma. So and they were great. 1:42:48.479 --> 1:42:51.040 Cool and then and then I saw a lot of 1:42:51.080 --> 1:42:54.920 your Instagram lately is dedicated to Angela Timber's dance class, 1:42:54.960 --> 1:42:57.439 which is cool because I know her from New York. 1:42:57.560 --> 1:43:01.200 Lisa, you know her too, right, We're online friends like 1:43:01.320 --> 1:43:05.400 we VM and I follow her very religiously. I would say, oh, 1:43:05.439 --> 1:43:07.599 we met one some person. We met one some person, 1:43:08.280 --> 1:43:10.760 and like what is it gold Diggers Club? Oh yeah, 1:43:10.840 --> 1:43:15.360 Old Diggers. Yeah, but no, I don't know her personally, 1:43:15.439 --> 1:43:18.400 but if I always am like, don't move, move, I 1:43:18.439 --> 1:43:18.680 don't know. 1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:22.280 I'm doing all the polls. I'm paying attention. But the 1:43:22.400 --> 1:43:26.080 dance class seems really fun. It's so fun. It's so fun. 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:28.760 I used to do ballet as a kid and it 1:43:28.880 --> 1:43:32.479 was like very perfectionist and you know, I'm like still 1:43:32.520 --> 1:43:35.800 in therapy about it and uh I but I and 1:43:35.880 --> 1:43:37.920 I like love doing it, but I couldn't, like I 1:43:38.320 --> 1:43:40.519 I have had to like walk out of dance classes 1:43:41.760 --> 1:43:46.360 and so like hers is this very like body positive 1:43:46.479 --> 1:43:50.920 like anti perfectionists, like alt comedy. Everything's like kind of 1:43:51.080 --> 1:43:55.600 angry and like the it's like mostly about the outfits, 1:43:55.920 --> 1:43:58.439 which is, you know, half the reason to do dance. 1:43:59.040 --> 1:44:01.240 And yeah, I started taking with her like a year 1:44:01.280 --> 1:44:05.600 and a half ago. I think and and yeah, and 1:44:05.640 --> 1:44:08.960 then she I did last year's recital, and I just 1:44:09.080 --> 1:44:11.639 love like inviting people to my adult ballet recital. 1:44:11.720 --> 1:44:14.439 It's like so fun, It is so fun. Is there 1:44:14.439 --> 1:44:17.080 another recital in the horizon. 1:44:17.439 --> 1:44:20.560 Yes, yes, we have the It's I don't know, like 1:44:21.080 --> 1:44:24.639 you know when this will air, but it's on April 1:44:24.720 --> 1:44:27.080 tenth and eleventh. And we got we just got a 1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:32.519 second performance because we sold out seven hundred seats in 1:44:32.720 --> 1:44:33.679 under two hours. 1:44:33.800 --> 1:44:34.639 Oh my gosh. 1:44:34.920 --> 1:44:37.080 And there were like four hundred people in the wait list. 1:44:37.280 --> 1:44:39.479 And so we have a second night, which is like 1:44:39.560 --> 1:44:40.679 that Friday the eleventh. 1:44:40.720 --> 1:44:41.360 Wait, guess what. 1:44:41.600 --> 1:44:44.760 This comes out on April eighth, so we will make 1:44:44.840 --> 1:44:49.040 sure everybody get your little butts over to see this ballet. 1:44:50.080 --> 1:44:54.000 Where is it, Grammarcy, where is it? It's at LaGuardia 1:44:54.040 --> 1:44:57.120 Performing Our Center in like Long Island City. So I 1:44:57.280 --> 1:45:01.719 was just like what venue. I was like, yeah, Long 1:45:01.800 --> 1:45:06.320 Island City, Yeah, awesome. What else do you have coming up? 1:45:07.040 --> 1:45:07.680 That's kind of it? 1:45:07.960 --> 1:45:13.479 Yeah, yes, dedicating my life to the dance, the dance, 1:45:14.240 --> 1:45:15.600 the dance, Yes, the art of l a. 1:45:15.800 --> 1:45:18.000 I wanted to ask too, because you were in another 1:45:18.160 --> 1:45:21.160 Dick Wolf joint after you did this you were in 1:45:21.160 --> 1:45:23.519 an episode of FBI, So how did that come? 1:45:23.800 --> 1:45:27.280 That was an offer? No, No, you had to audition again. 1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:31.479 I had to audition again, and I was shocked the episode. 1:45:31.520 --> 1:45:34.000 I'm so surprised. Yeah I was. 1:45:34.439 --> 1:45:36.880 I was a little shocked because I did did cast 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:38.880 me from tape. They didn't make me like comment or anything, 1:45:38.920 --> 1:45:42.120 which was nice. Yeah, I played like, you know, a 1:45:42.240 --> 1:45:45.960 seventeen year old, which was like interesting, you know, I 1:45:46.120 --> 1:45:50.160 was not seventeen. I am not seventeen, and so uh, 1:45:50.680 --> 1:45:52.160 I was like surprised to get the audition. 1:45:52.320 --> 1:45:53.880 Then I was like whatever, and. 1:45:55.479 --> 1:45:58.120 It was I had a lot less screen time. It 1:45:58.240 --> 1:46:00.640 was actually like ever the they were like looking for 1:46:00.800 --> 1:46:02.960 me the whole time, but it wasn't like cutting to 1:46:03.040 --> 1:46:06.760 where I was necessarily, So it was actually a really 1:46:06.880 --> 1:46:09.280 cushy job because I was like still the guest star. 1:46:09.479 --> 1:46:11.600 But I was most like I had to go and 1:46:11.680 --> 1:46:12.919 like take still photos. 1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:15.559 It was like a we Actually I had like days 1:46:15.600 --> 1:46:17.479 of photo shoots because I don't know if he'll saw 1:46:17.560 --> 1:46:17.920 the show. 1:46:18.640 --> 1:46:19.840 No I haven't, but like. 1:46:20.920 --> 1:46:25.680 There's this amazing so I have this like sick s 1:46:25.840 --> 1:46:30.160 I k H boyfriend, does any spell it seek sick 1:46:31.000 --> 1:46:36.080 and Seek? Yes, yes, so he his parents are like 1:46:36.160 --> 1:46:39.760 she's this is like a bad girl who's unsuitable, and 1:46:40.240 --> 1:46:42.840 oh my gosh, I'm also spoiling the episode, so sorry, 1:46:43.120 --> 1:46:44.200 but so. 1:46:45.720 --> 1:46:49.800 Essentially like he you know, ruins his life for me, and. 1:46:51.360 --> 1:46:54.280 I am kidnapped by these like drug dealers that owe 1:46:54.360 --> 1:46:57.360 him money or he that he owes money too, and 1:46:58.439 --> 1:47:03.320 they like go in his room and they're trying to 1:47:03.400 --> 1:47:07.519 like figure out why he murdered the sky because they 1:47:07.560 --> 1:47:10.479 have like footage of him murdering people in a convenience 1:47:10.479 --> 1:47:15.320 store and there's just like photos of me flustered all 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:18.040 over his walls. There's like fifty photos of me. 1:47:18.200 --> 1:47:23.680 It's like it's very flattering. But so I had to 1:47:23.800 --> 1:47:24.560 like do this. 1:47:24.960 --> 1:47:27.120 Yeah, I had to take a lot of photos for that. 1:47:27.280 --> 1:47:29.320 And then some of them, of course, were like with him. 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:31.760 So all I am is like photos that they're looking 1:47:31.880 --> 1:47:33.680 for until the end where they find me and I 1:47:33.760 --> 1:47:36.120 have this big scene. So like it's kind of the 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:40.040 opposite of SVU, where at first, like in SVU, they 1:47:40.160 --> 1:47:42.719 like think I'm the perpetrator and then I'm the victim. 1:47:43.600 --> 1:47:47.320 In FBI, they thought I was the victim and they're 1:47:47.360 --> 1:47:50.400 looking for me, and then I end up like holding 1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:55.000 this gas station full of people hostage, and I like 1:47:55.160 --> 1:47:58.839 a gun, and because they're going to take my boyfriend 1:47:58.880 --> 1:48:00.800 to jail, I'm like, fuck that. 1:48:01.000 --> 1:48:04.519 You gotta like your ride or die. Yeah, we were 1:48:04.560 --> 1:48:07.080 both ride or Die. We were like, we're in love. 1:48:07.360 --> 1:48:12.599 And I will manipulate the FBI to like letting him 1:48:12.680 --> 1:48:15.040 free if I and I'll like let these people go 1:48:15.680 --> 1:48:19.000 damn And yeah, do you want me to like spoil 1:48:19.080 --> 1:48:19.400 it or no? 1:48:19.920 --> 1:48:25.040 Yeah? Yeah, so I get snipered. Oh yeah, they have 1:48:25.160 --> 1:48:27.920 to kill me? Yeah where does where does the gun 1:48:27.960 --> 1:48:32.519 shot go into my head through a window? 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:35.439 They're like sitting on a rooftop and I have got 1:48:35.600 --> 1:48:39.080 the shot. They did. They got the shot and they 1:48:39.160 --> 1:48:44.400 took it. And yeah, Like my mother in law watched 1:48:44.439 --> 1:48:46.160 it like on Chris. She was like I didn't know 1:48:46.240 --> 1:48:48.800 you were in an episode or something, and we like 1:48:48.920 --> 1:48:51.920 watched it on Christmas the following year, and she like 1:48:52.840 --> 1:48:55.960 was like bawling and was like I could never watch 1:48:56.080 --> 1:48:59.400 that again, like it was I ruined Christmas. 1:48:59.479 --> 1:49:01.080 But but yeah, it is. 1:49:01.240 --> 1:49:03.280 It is sad, like it was a sad episode. Yeah, 1:49:03.439 --> 1:49:05.720 but it was a very cool part because I got 1:49:05.760 --> 1:49:07.919 to like, you know, have a gun. 1:49:07.760 --> 1:49:11.599 And like be a baddie and you know that's cool, 1:49:11.880 --> 1:49:14.240 and you're just embedding yourself further in the dick. Well, 1:49:14.240 --> 1:49:16.000 if universe are gonna where, you're gonna pop up on 1:49:16.040 --> 1:49:18.840 our Chicagos pretty soon. I bet, I bet you could 1:49:18.880 --> 1:49:23.679 be an Ada the Meds. You just you just look young. 1:49:23.720 --> 1:49:25.600 I mean, I'm sure you can play older, but like 1:49:25.760 --> 1:49:27.400 you do look you have. It's like, great, you have 1:49:27.479 --> 1:49:28.400 such a youthful look. 1:49:29.400 --> 1:49:31.680 Yeah, you'll be in Ada and no one respects you 1:49:31.720 --> 1:49:37.960 because you look young. And then you yeah, yeah, we 1:49:38.160 --> 1:49:41.760 do it. How does it feel having amy with kind 1:49:41.800 --> 1:49:44.960 of a funky spelling? Does it terrorize your life day 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:46.679 to day? It really does. 1:49:48.400 --> 1:49:53.160 Yeah, I'm like the I'm like the fourth a May fortune. 1:49:53.240 --> 1:49:55.920 I'm from New Orleans and so it's like a Cajun name. 1:49:55.960 --> 1:49:59.200 There were like two a Mays in my class in 1:49:59.280 --> 1:50:01.120 New Orleans. So it was like I grew up with 1:50:01.240 --> 1:50:03.240 it being like not a weird name. 1:50:04.680 --> 1:50:06.559 It's French. It means like loved in French. 1:50:06.680 --> 1:50:10.559 Yeah, and and so like it wasn't until I left 1:50:10.680 --> 1:50:13.080 New Orleans that people were like did you make that up? 1:50:13.400 --> 1:50:15.400 Like why are we having too And it was like 1:50:15.479 --> 1:50:17.400 too late at that point, I had a manager that 1:50:17.520 --> 1:50:19.559 was like, let's just call you Amy, and I was like, eh, 1:50:20.400 --> 1:50:21.280 I can't. 1:50:21.560 --> 1:50:22.559 That's not not my name. 1:50:22.720 --> 1:50:24.639 Like I was like willing to change it to something 1:50:24.720 --> 1:50:28.960 completely different, but like not Amy. So it's like it's 1:50:29.040 --> 1:50:31.120 been a struggle because I always like, as soon as 1:50:31.160 --> 1:50:33.000 I meet someone, I have to like correct them, and 1:50:33.120 --> 1:50:35.680 it's like, you know, a great way for people to 1:50:35.760 --> 1:50:37.280 love you right off the bat. 1:50:37.320 --> 1:50:40.640 It's like, wait, so how did people say it in 1:50:40.680 --> 1:50:42.680 New Orleans A May? 1:50:43.040 --> 1:50:46.560 It's it's yeah, I think the like correct French pronunciation 1:50:46.800 --> 1:50:50.280 is ma, but like people in the South say a May. 1:50:50.479 --> 1:50:55.680 And I was like taking my husband on. We went 1:50:55.760 --> 1:50:59.439 on like the one plantation tour years ago that was 1:50:59.479 --> 1:51:01.560 like this is like the real story of the plantation. 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:05.040 This is like from the slaves perspective, and of course, 1:51:05.200 --> 1:51:09.160 like uh, I think it was like Laura Plantation and 1:51:10.040 --> 1:51:15.080 we are, you know, like experiencing this horror and uh. 1:51:15.320 --> 1:51:16.880 And then we get upstairs and they're like, and this 1:51:17.120 --> 1:51:20.840 is the portrait of like the meanest plantation owner named 1:51:20.920 --> 1:51:24.320 a May. And it was like the first time that 1:51:24.439 --> 1:51:25.360 he had ever heard a May. 1:51:26.760 --> 1:51:30.880 Yeah. So anyway, this was amazing. Thank you so much. 1:51:31.479 --> 1:51:35.040 Yeah, y'all, yeah, where much? Where do people get tickets 1:51:35.080 --> 1:51:36.760 for the recital? 1:51:37.280 --> 1:51:41.360 It's on Angela's website so, but it's also on my Instagram. 1:51:41.439 --> 1:51:44.080 I have like the link in the bio. Okay, if 1:51:44.120 --> 1:51:48.400 you want to, I'm will included in the show notes 1:51:48.439 --> 1:51:48.880 and stuff. 1:51:49.000 --> 1:51:52.439 Okay, yeah, but yeah, it's like Angela trember dance dot com. 1:51:52.520 --> 1:51:54.840 I think, thank you so much for talking to us 1:51:55.080 --> 1:51:57.160 a may thank y'all. This was so fun. 1:52:01.439 --> 1:52:03.160 Oh my god, she's so cute. Everybody go to her 1:52:03.240 --> 1:52:08.679 dance her dance recital it's coming up. Yeah and Timber, Timber, Yeah, 1:52:08.920 --> 1:52:13.639 how joyful to go watch a bunch of cool women 1:52:13.800 --> 1:52:16.600 not be self conscious and just dance like ballerinas. 1:52:17.160 --> 1:52:17.400 I know. 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:19.719 It's really like sad to think. And I have friends 1:52:19.800 --> 1:52:21.960 that like love dance. And then one teacher was like, 1:52:22.080 --> 1:52:23.599 you're too fat and you don't have a future. Get 1:52:23.640 --> 1:52:25.920 out of here. And it's like, so a kid can't 1:52:26.040 --> 1:52:28.320 dance if they don't have a future. I just don't get. 1:52:28.479 --> 1:52:31.040 I know, you don't have a knack for it, don't 1:52:31.040 --> 1:52:33.920 do It's like, can we normal? Well, ever, it's capitalism, 1:52:33.960 --> 1:52:37.080 it's patriarchy, but it's like just normalize having a hobby 1:52:37.160 --> 1:52:39.600 even I mean, even the bracelets. He shuts out the 1:52:39.640 --> 1:52:41.439 base let's on Etsy, and it's like, how about I 1:52:41.560 --> 1:52:43.639 just make the bracelets on my own time however I want. 1:52:43.800 --> 1:52:46.360 Like it's such a it's a very tricksy katya of 1:52:46.400 --> 1:52:49.080 it all. But I mean, and ballet has like always 1:52:49.160 --> 1:52:49.960 been that way. 1:52:50.080 --> 1:52:52.360 But like at least other forms of like hip hop 1:52:52.439 --> 1:52:55.000 and all these other forms of dance are like embracing, 1:52:55.400 --> 1:52:56.160 like you see. 1:52:56.120 --> 1:52:59.240 Dancers of all. I mean, but it's fine, level if 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:01.760 you need to like whatever, if you're like at the 1:53:01.760 --> 1:53:04.360 American Ballet, whatever, fine, you need to look a certain way. 1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:07.280 But like to not let children who are paying money 1:53:07.360 --> 1:53:10.479 to take live and just take lessons and ruin their 1:53:10.600 --> 1:53:13.880 lives just makes no sense. I was just on my 1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:17.320 friend's podcast and he was saying, as a little kid, 1:53:17.840 --> 1:53:20.439 he was in the basement dancing to Spice Girls and 1:53:20.520 --> 1:53:23.560 lip syncing and like loved the Spice Girls. And his 1:53:23.680 --> 1:53:27.160 stepdad came downstairs and screamed, don't you ever do that again? 1:53:27.760 --> 1:53:30.040 And he like, never dance sing or like the Spice 1:53:30.080 --> 1:53:34.479 Girls again. Oh my god, just like one step down. 1:53:34.560 --> 1:53:38.400 It's just like one thing. It could the kid was dancing. 1:53:38.560 --> 1:53:43.800 It's just like it's just yeah, it's sad. It's so sad. 1:53:44.280 --> 1:53:47.200 But I also think what I like about her doing 1:53:47.280 --> 1:53:49.920 this dance and Angela's whole thing too, is like there's 1:53:49.960 --> 1:53:52.479 so few opportunities to dance when you get older, Like 1:53:52.560 --> 1:53:54.640 when you're a kid, there are dances. You're always like 1:53:54.720 --> 1:53:57.160 dancing with your friends. Like it's like if I don't 1:53:57.160 --> 1:53:59.760 go to like a dance like a nightclub, like where 1:53:59.760 --> 1:54:02.720 am I dancing? You know, weddings like those are those 1:54:02.760 --> 1:54:04.600 are trickling out, you know what I mean? Like so 1:54:05.120 --> 1:54:07.679 and I love dancing, So now I have like pay 1:54:07.800 --> 1:54:10.120 to take dance classes, and I just wish there were 1:54:10.160 --> 1:54:12.080 more places that adults could just go dance. 1:54:12.520 --> 1:54:14.960 People are paying for these classes. I mean, they're paying 1:54:15.000 --> 1:54:15.559 for her classes. 1:54:15.600 --> 1:54:18.720 But I'm just saying, like it reminds me of how 1:54:18.960 --> 1:54:21.400 like you just don't have the opportunity after childhood to dance, 1:54:21.439 --> 1:54:24.719 and then fucking assholes are telling you for various reasons 1:54:24.760 --> 1:54:26.800 don't dance anyway. 1:54:27.240 --> 1:54:35.280 This episode wild, I mean, what a yeah, I should 1:54:35.280 --> 1:54:39.520 have told you the end in the beginning, you know, yeah, 1:54:40.000 --> 1:54:43.600 like it really leads on and not to fit but 1:54:43.760 --> 1:54:47.120 like just but you have to live your life. I 1:54:47.240 --> 1:54:52.040 just you know, so many unanswered questions. What was the 1:54:52.920 --> 1:54:55.280 why that time of year? Why bodies of water? 1:54:55.520 --> 1:54:58.840 It almost it feels like not like poetic, but it 1:54:58.880 --> 1:55:01.240 feels like something from a book or something like it 1:55:01.320 --> 1:55:04.640 feels like the water was drawing her or something like 1:55:04.760 --> 1:55:06.480 all these and like what was it? 1:55:06.680 --> 1:55:08.080 Like what hat will we make? 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:11.040 We probably will never know, like she ended up in 1:55:11.120 --> 1:55:15.240 an island surrounded by water, like it's just like it's us. 1:55:15.360 --> 1:55:19.920 So yeah, it's upsetting, but it's like really unbelievable. And 1:55:20.000 --> 1:55:22.720 I just like remember like being in New York and 1:55:22.760 --> 1:55:24.520 being like, oh my god, where is this girl? She's 1:55:24.560 --> 1:55:26.440 like my sister's a teacher. She's a teacher. I was 1:55:26.480 --> 1:55:29.080 like she's just gone, like where is she? And then 1:55:29.120 --> 1:55:31.680 people spotting her and stuff like oh my gosh. And 1:55:31.760 --> 1:55:33.840 I just I had no idea how it ended how. 1:55:33.800 --> 1:55:39.880 This episode heirs dog doing, how's the vibe? Good? Sisters? Happy? 1:55:40.600 --> 1:55:43.560 Yeah, she has this dog named Betty. She's super cute. 1:55:43.960 --> 1:55:46.400 They are my sister's like can. 1:55:46.360 --> 1:55:46.800 You believe this? 1:55:46.880 --> 1:55:48.520 I'm like a full dog mom now, Like I just 1:55:48.640 --> 1:55:52.320 never thought I would see it, Like yeah, they're cute 1:55:52.680 --> 1:55:54.840 I'm going to see my sister next week in Sarasota. 1:55:54.880 --> 1:55:56.720 Hopefully I'll drag her to drag Drace with me. 1:55:56.800 --> 1:55:59.280 But are you guys going to Sarasota for something specific 1:55:59.480 --> 1:56:02.360 or it's just I'm taking the kids for spring break 1:56:02.480 --> 1:56:04.680 and just to see family. It's like spring break and 1:56:05.920 --> 1:56:08.480 my uncle has a house. Wait, you've been to his house. 1:56:08.560 --> 1:56:10.080 So we're gonna go stay at my uncle's house with 1:56:10.440 --> 1:56:12.240 the pool and then go to the beach and stuff. 1:56:12.360 --> 1:56:16.160 And you know, I haven't been there like except for 1:56:16.280 --> 1:56:19.520 one day with you, like three years ago, and I 1:56:19.560 --> 1:56:21.040 didn't get to go to the beach or anything or 1:56:21.080 --> 1:56:22.800 see like you know, and I want to see some 1:56:22.920 --> 1:56:23.400 of my fams. 1:56:23.480 --> 1:56:24.520 So yeah, we're just going for that. 1:56:25.360 --> 1:56:29.480 But it's exciting spring spring break, baby, And it's so 1:56:29.560 --> 1:56:31.680 funny to go to spring break in like Sarasota. 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:34.120 It's like median age is seventy three. 1:56:34.480 --> 1:56:34.560 But. 1:56:36.600 --> 1:56:38.160 The beach is school. I thought you were gonna say 1:56:38.200 --> 1:56:39.120 it's going to be young people. 1:56:39.880 --> 1:56:42.080 No, but c s to Key is one of the 1:56:42.120 --> 1:56:44.880 most beautiful beaches in the world, like White Sand Beach, 1:56:45.120 --> 1:56:48.760 like I've every time I go to another beach like Hawaii, California, 1:56:48.800 --> 1:56:51.760 I'm like, this beach is shit compared to this beach 1:56:51.800 --> 1:56:54.320 that I spent growing up going to c s to Key, 1:56:54.520 --> 1:56:57.720 Like the sand is like powder, it's so beautiful. 1:56:58.240 --> 1:56:59.760 Wait, what did we say we were going to talk 1:56:59.760 --> 1:57:04.960 about in the outro? Yes, so you're an SNL girl, 1:57:05.120 --> 1:57:06.200 So tell us your thoughts. 1:57:07.520 --> 1:57:09.560 I mean, I didn't get to watch the episode yet, 1:57:09.720 --> 1:57:12.400 but I obviously have seen the clips, Like, well, I 1:57:12.440 --> 1:57:14.240 mean that guy was supposed to know he's selling merch. 1:57:14.320 --> 1:57:17.200 Now he's selling merch that says take me back to 1:57:17.320 --> 1:57:20.560 God's country? Is that like what he said? Like when 1:57:20.600 --> 1:57:23.120 he whispered, like what no? So he walked off and 1:57:23.200 --> 1:57:26.280 then he posts it on his stories a private jet, 1:57:26.480 --> 1:57:28.560 which is so every man, you know what I mean? 1:57:28.680 --> 1:57:31.280 Nothing says country salt of the earth like getting on 1:57:31.360 --> 1:57:33.520 a private jet right right? And he wrote take me 1:57:33.600 --> 1:57:34.680 back to God's Country. 1:57:35.320 --> 1:57:37.320 So do you think he really feels that way or 1:57:37.360 --> 1:57:41.080 do you think he's like virtue signaling to his fucking people. Oh, 1:57:41.120 --> 1:57:43.280 I hate New York and Saturday Night Live and the 1:57:43.320 --> 1:57:45.160 liberal agenda and I'm getting out of here. 1:57:45.320 --> 1:57:47.080 I think he's a homophobe and racist, and I think 1:57:47.120 --> 1:57:49.000 he was around too many black and gay people for 1:57:49.080 --> 1:57:52.160 his liking. That's what I think. But I was hanging 1:57:52.200 --> 1:57:54.280 out with someone that used to work there, and he's like, 1:57:54.320 --> 1:57:56.120 I've been getting no scooed and like I was, I 1:57:56.200 --> 1:57:59.440 was running into every person that works there. I was like, wayana, 1:57:59.480 --> 1:58:01.720 and they're like there's nothing, like there was no in like, 1:58:01.760 --> 1:58:04.360 nothing actually happened. He just didn't really want to be there, 1:58:04.400 --> 1:58:05.760 and no one really wanted him there either. 1:58:07.040 --> 1:58:11.160 Yeah, It's just there were so many less obvious ways 1:58:11.200 --> 1:58:13.520 he could have, like side the stage. 1:58:13.680 --> 1:58:16.480 Yeah, Like he just went like it's so crazy. Well, 1:58:16.560 --> 1:58:18.640 it's crazy because it's all fait. It's like, why did 1:58:18.720 --> 1:58:19.400 you even do it? 1:58:20.200 --> 1:58:22.240 Yeah, because he was supposed to do it in twenty 1:58:22.360 --> 1:58:26.800 twenty and then he got disinvited because he got caught 1:58:27.120 --> 1:58:31.360 partying during COVID, like and so I it's like, if 1:58:31.400 --> 1:58:35.000 you hate SNL and they've already disinvited you once, just fucking. 1:58:35.480 --> 1:58:38.880 Do that, you know, be like fuck that place. Yeah, 1:58:39.200 --> 1:58:41.160 it's just like, I don't know, these guys are just 1:58:41.280 --> 1:58:44.480 such losers because when you've noticed, no one on the 1:58:44.560 --> 1:58:46.800 cast seemed to care. Like if you look at the 1:58:46.840 --> 1:58:49.320 background of the photo, Marcello has both arms in the air, 1:58:49.480 --> 1:58:52.680 like jumping up and down, like Sarah and Bo like 1:58:52.760 --> 1:58:56.400 are hugging, like everyone's just kind of theater kid having 1:58:56.480 --> 1:58:59.560 the time of their lives. Like I don't like, you know, 1:58:59.680 --> 1:59:02.320 no one cared about him, so it's like he's acting 1:59:02.400 --> 1:59:04.360 like I'm gonna leave, but it's like no one even 1:59:04.440 --> 1:59:05.960 wants to here. No one cares. 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:09.560 So it's like the good nights are during during the credits, 1:59:09.600 --> 1:59:11.680 if you dv are it, they pretty much get cut off, 1:59:11.760 --> 1:59:14.040 like you just have to stand there for three minutes, 1:59:14.480 --> 1:59:16.600 and you're such a narcissist that you're like, get me 1:59:16.720 --> 1:59:19.760 out of here, Like I can't acknowledge of these people 1:59:19.880 --> 1:59:21.800 for three weeks for three minutes. 1:59:21.960 --> 1:59:24.400 But also then to just get on a private jet 1:59:24.520 --> 1:59:27.120 and have poor people be excited. But it's also a 1:59:27.160 --> 1:59:29.800 person I don't know. He's a racist and homophobe and 1:59:29.880 --> 1:59:32.160 he sucks. It's like I don't get. I just don't 1:59:32.160 --> 1:59:35.480 get when Lauren Michaels is committed to terrorizing his crew 1:59:35.640 --> 1:59:38.560 and staff and cast. Yeah, that's what I don't understand. 1:59:39.840 --> 1:59:45.760 Why are you putting people that are against your casts 1:59:45.960 --> 1:59:49.640 like freedoms and like right to exist. 1:59:50.040 --> 1:59:51.240 They had done on. 1:59:52.760 --> 1:59:56.040 Yeah, like there I'm including all those people. Yeah, he's incendiary. 1:59:56.160 --> 1:59:58.120 He does things so that we'll talk about it right 1:59:58.160 --> 1:59:59.560 now and people will continue. 1:59:59.200 --> 2:00:01.200 To watch the show. And you know what I have 2:00:01.320 --> 2:00:03.240 to say, Oh this, I said this yesterday, So if 2:00:03.280 --> 2:00:05.920 you listen to me on anyone else's podcast, but whatever, 2:00:06.480 --> 2:00:08.600 I just like, if you want to be punk rock, 2:00:08.760 --> 2:00:12.000 Shinead O'Connor was punk rock, Yeah, ruined her fucking career. 2:00:12.200 --> 2:00:14.680 If you want to say something about the fucking New 2:00:14.760 --> 2:00:18.040 York City, man, uh, do it during your fucking song, 2:00:18.200 --> 2:00:21.400 you piece of shit coward. All of them are cowards. 2:00:21.520 --> 2:00:25.360 Like you walked off at the last two seconds cool 2:00:25.520 --> 2:00:29.160 statement on your private jet, Like you know what I mean? 2:00:29.240 --> 2:00:33.960 You will never be as tough or as brave as anyone. 2:00:34.120 --> 2:00:37.720 That's like living a life that this administration is against you. 2:00:37.880 --> 2:00:42.480 Fucking wish. They have to create their own like trials 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:47.800 and tribulations and pretend it's something right because they are 2:00:47.960 --> 2:00:51.680 cow they have nothing. They have nothing. Yeah, like fucking 2:00:51.800 --> 2:00:55.400 Bowen who had to go to conversion therapy, you know, 2:00:55.640 --> 2:00:58.920 and like fucking break free and be himself and get 2:00:58.960 --> 2:01:01.960 to be this famous per living is like, that's a 2:01:02.040 --> 2:01:05.880 fucking brave person, not you walking off at the end, 2:01:06.040 --> 2:01:07.600 and if you were gonna say something, I wish she 2:01:07.640 --> 2:01:09.080 did it like during the song I. 2:01:09.160 --> 2:01:12.840 Don't even fucking know these guys has a guy on 2:01:13.160 --> 2:01:15.200 what like that looks like sounds like a white guy name. 2:01:15.240 --> 2:01:17.360 I'm always like, oh, it's some country singer I don't 2:01:17.400 --> 2:01:19.960 know of, and I don't know one song this guy 2:01:20.040 --> 2:01:22.800 fucking sings. But it's like, are you dumb? Look what 2:01:22.920 --> 2:01:25.280 Taylor Swift did with her country career. Look what Casey 2:01:25.400 --> 2:01:28.080 Musgraves is doing with their gundry career, Like doing it 2:01:28.360 --> 2:01:30.680 being like going back to old school country where you 2:01:30.720 --> 2:01:31.600 don't accept anybody. 2:01:31.880 --> 2:01:33.720 It doesn't seem like a good business move. 2:01:33.880 --> 2:01:34.240 No, it is. 2:01:34.360 --> 2:01:36.160 After he said the N word, his sales went up. 2:01:36.560 --> 2:01:38.200 When did he say the N word? I don't know, 2:01:38.360 --> 2:01:41.520 but oh yeah, he was like saying all these slurs 2:01:41.560 --> 2:01:44.240 and his sales went up. I think you're underestimating the 2:01:44.280 --> 2:01:49.400 American public and the hatefulness they have towards black people. Yeah. 2:01:49.440 --> 2:01:51.080 I just think there's like a way that you can 2:01:51.160 --> 2:01:54.960 be in between like saying the N word and like, 2:01:56.480 --> 2:01:58.440 oh he just got arrested for like throwing a chair 2:01:58.480 --> 2:01:58.880 at people. 2:01:59.000 --> 2:02:02.000 He's not cluel, No, he seems like a fucking psycho, 2:02:02.360 --> 2:02:03.600 you know what I mean. Like, I don't know what 2:02:03.680 --> 2:02:04.240 else to say. 2:02:04.280 --> 2:02:06.680 I don't, but you're right, Like Lauren Michael's like, I 2:02:07.600 --> 2:02:10.960 it does seem you're so counterculture, You're so like, Yeah, 2:02:11.000 --> 2:02:13.200 why don't you stand behind the people that you fucking hire, 2:02:13.800 --> 2:02:18.480 that put in the hours and make your show and 2:02:18.720 --> 2:02:19.440 subject them. 2:02:19.400 --> 2:02:20.120 To these people? 2:02:20.520 --> 2:02:24.520 Yeah, because even the people that watched for Morgan didn't 2:02:24.560 --> 2:02:25.080 watch the show. 2:02:25.080 --> 2:02:27.800 All the comments are like, yeah, Morgan, fuck this show, 2:02:27.960 --> 2:02:29.360 fuck these live you know what I mean. 2:02:29.440 --> 2:02:32.760 It's not coming over to SML now. Yeah, it's like 2:02:32.960 --> 2:02:35.960 a actually the weekend updates pretty funny, Like no. 2:02:36.440 --> 2:02:38.560 But that's always that. That's like, oh way, it's like 2:02:38.920 --> 2:02:41.560 it's I mean, I think he's probably a right wing 2:02:41.640 --> 2:02:45.720 maniac lorn, but the I mean, how why else would 2:02:45.720 --> 2:02:48.200 you have these people on. He's a rich billionaire who's 2:02:48.240 --> 2:02:51.920 been rating an emperor of his little you know, building 2:02:52.080 --> 2:02:54.760 for decades, so I can't imagine him being normal and 2:02:54.960 --> 2:03:00.840 like have any human like feelings sorts whatever. But it 2:03:01.040 --> 2:03:03.000 because I was about to say, I hate like left 2:03:03.080 --> 2:03:06.160 or Democrat vibes of like, but we got. 2:03:06.160 --> 2:03:07.840 To bring them in, right. 2:03:07.960 --> 2:03:10.880 Yeah, that's the thing that's why we hate the Barbie movie. 2:03:11.240 --> 2:03:13.200 We need a movie for men too, And it's like 2:03:13.400 --> 2:03:16.760 do we know we I've talked about it already on 2:03:16.800 --> 2:03:20.320 this podcast, but this like Malcolm Gladwell episode about satire, 2:03:20.440 --> 2:03:23.160 that's like how satire has no teeth anymore because they 2:03:23.280 --> 2:03:25.880 just fucking they bring in the racist. They bring in 2:03:26.040 --> 2:03:28.080 Sarah Palin after they make fun of her, like they're 2:03:28.120 --> 2:03:30.760 not really saying anything. You're not saying anything. If you 2:03:30.800 --> 2:03:33.480 have these people on your show, oh, I know we'll 2:03:33.520 --> 2:03:35.960 get you should do the one what was mister Peg too? 2:03:35.960 --> 2:03:38.120 Because I actually just got a text from Corey Booker, 2:03:38.440 --> 2:03:41.760 so oh excuse me, I got one yesterday. He called 2:03:41.800 --> 2:03:45.760 me right after he got off stage. But I mean 2:03:45.920 --> 2:03:50.560 postmortem of this episode. Basically, I don't know what we've learned, 2:03:50.800 --> 2:03:53.000 but like, go find your daughter. If she's missing in 2:03:53.360 --> 2:03:56.640 New York City for a like months in two three years, 2:03:57.000 --> 2:03:59.240 you need to put up more posters, sir, you really 2:03:59.320 --> 2:04:01.600 need to find her, or because it's not that big 2:04:01.680 --> 2:04:02.720 of an island, Manhattan. 2:04:02.920 --> 2:04:05.560 But let's move on to what would sister Peg do? 2:04:05.800 --> 2:04:08.960 This is our weekly segment where we direct you towards 2:04:09.000 --> 2:04:13.400 an organization an article, a book, a documentary, something to 2:04:13.480 --> 2:04:16.360 give you more information about what we talked about today. 2:04:16.560 --> 2:04:21.880 And I was obviously moved by Grace Walker slash Sophie 2:04:21.880 --> 2:04:25.240 simmons journey of living on the street and how she 2:04:25.480 --> 2:04:29.640 basically lived in terror for three years of being attacked 2:04:29.800 --> 2:04:31.840 and having to team up with a guy who was 2:04:31.920 --> 2:04:33.880 abusive to her just so he would protect her. 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