1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and this is the 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Bengals Boot Podcast, the Slip Sliding Away Edition. If we 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: look back at the bengals fourth straight loss, a twenty 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: four to ten l at the hands of the Denver 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Broncos that dropped the Bengals to five and seven after 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: a four and one start. Coming up, you'll hear radio replays, 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: locker room interviews, and Dave Lapp them will join me 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: for postgame analysis plus and this week's fun Fags interview. 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: You'll get to know rookie linebacker Malik Jefferson. We'll discuss 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: a wide variety of topics, including the time he met 11 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: one of People Magazine's most beautiful women in the world 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: on a recruiting trip. If that's not unfair recruiting, I 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: don't know what is. All of that is straight ahead, 14 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: But first, here's a quick reminder that you can have 15 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: the latest edition of this podcast delivered right to your phone, tablet, 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, or pod Bean. 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: It's the greatest invention since clocks that automatically adjust when 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you move from time zone to time zone. I traveled 19 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: to Las Vegas for a little more than twenty four 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: hours over the weekend for a UC basketball game on Saturday, 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: then turned around and came back to Cincinnati for the 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: Bengals game on Sunday. And it's really helpful when your 23 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: phone and watch automatically adjust to local time. If only 24 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: my body adjusted as easily. Now, let's get to football. 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: For just the fifth time in eight years, the Bengals 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: had a starting quarterback other than Andy Dalton on Sunday. 27 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: It was twenty five year old Jeff Driscoll, making his 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: first start in one thou eighty days, going back to 29 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: the two fifteen New Orleans Bowl, when he led Louisiana 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: Tech to a forty seven twenty eight win over Arkansas State. 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: With all due respect to the Red Wolves, they don't 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: have pass rushers like the Denver Broncos. Second down in 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: fifty and the Bengals at their own twenty six, Driscoll 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: catches a shotgun, snappy is back to throw, and he 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: will be sacked back at the sixteen yard line by 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: Shelby Harris the nose tackle that was the first of 37 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: four sacks for Denver. And to make matters worse, A J. 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Greene suffered a non contact injury to his right foot 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: on the play after struggling to get to the sideline. 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: AJ was taken off the field on a cart and 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: appeared to be distraught as he covered his face with 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: his hands. Aj had just returned to the Bengals lineup 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: after missing three games with a toe injury. Here's fellow 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: receiver Tyler Boyd. You know, he told us he was fine, 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: he felt fine his Pakistan, and we thought he was 46 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: ready to go. And what happened twin was just like 47 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and let us know, like the type of player he 48 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: is and what his heart is. Okay, I could imagine 49 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: what he's going through, you know, because I know he 50 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: wants to win, and we just had the type before 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: we played his game, like let's go. We gotta, we gotta, 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: we gotta make this push, we gotta, we gotta get 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: over his hump and win these next games. In him 54 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: going down kind of um made a lots of for 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: us to do. We say what we're gonna do. The 56 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: Bengals defense played well in the first half as the 57 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Broncos failed to score on their first four drives, but 58 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: penalties destroyed Cincinnati on offense. We're scoreless with six forty 59 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: two remaining in the first half, shotgun snap, Jeff Driscoll 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: with a three step drop, slaps at the ball and 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: he will be sacked. Couldn't get it out of his 62 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: hand and he's tackled at the twenty six yard line 63 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 1: by Von Miller and Shelby Harris. That's what happens when 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: you have a holding penalty and you're off schedule and 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you gotta you know, second and twenty. Now it's third 66 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: and even more than that. In the first half, Driscoll 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: and company faced third and sixteen, third and twenty four, 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: third and twenty five, third and twenty nine, and third 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: and thirty five. Here's the Bengals QB. We've been saying 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: all week, we gotta we gotta be good on first 71 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: and second down, and you know there were some times 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: there where you know, we were behind the sticks a 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: little bit during the game. But um yeah, I mean 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: when you're getting some third and long type stuff like 75 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: like we did today, it's tough. And I mean, at 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, we just didn't make enough 77 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: plays as an offense to get it done. And that's 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: what really what it comes down to. The Bengals finished 79 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,559 Speaker 1: with a dozen penalties for one hundred yards and that's unacceptable. 80 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: According to Tyler Boyd, sucks man, it's what tough penalties 81 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: for one hundred yards? You nuver win Ever, sucks man. 82 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: She's got to clean things up. I don't know if 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: it was his cadence was done, everybody off or like 84 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: I said, the pressure was too good. They was getting 85 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: jumps on it. But I mean we was trying to 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: change everything up to help done. And you know it's 87 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: I don't really know. He's got to watch the film 88 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: see what we can correct. The Broncos finally capitalized on 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: the Bengal sloppiness with less than two minutes to go 90 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: in the half case. Keenum under center, takes the snap, 91 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: hands it off, Lindsay started right, cuts it back to 92 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: the middle and goes into the end zone standing up 93 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: touchdown Denver with one fifty six left and a half, 94 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: and he does a mile high salute here in Cincinnati. 95 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: After Philip Lindsay put the Broncos on the scoreboard, the 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Bengals answered with a scoring drive of their own. They 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: had at first and goal at the Denverse seven with 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: thirty one seconds left and the half when guess what 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: a penalty costs them? Ten yards and forced the Bengals 100 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: to settle for a field goal try. It'll be a 101 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: thirty five yard field goal try for Randy Bullock on 102 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: a very windy day. Harris snaps it, Huber puts it down. 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: The kick is launched by Randy Bullock and it is 104 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: good and the Bengals are on the scoreboard with twelve 105 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: seconds left in the half, trailing Denverse seven to three. 106 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Considering the steady stream of penalty flags, the Bengals were 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: in good shape. And when the defense forced to three 108 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: and out on Denver's first possession of the third quarter, 109 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: it looked like Cincinnati would get decent field position. Kasey 110 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Kreiter's long snap, shoulder high, right footed punt crushed Ericsson 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 1: moving under it, catches it the thirty seven drops the 112 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: football tries to recover his own fumble. Looks like Denver 113 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: has it at the thirty three yard line of Cincinnati, 114 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: and that is the case. And that's a rarity. I mean, 115 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: if there's one guy that Darrensi has confidence in, it's 116 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: Alex Rickson catching the ball. It was Ericson's first fumble 117 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: of the season. It was cutting against the wind um. 118 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: He didn't hit it clean. So it was it was 119 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: going the opposite way and I was just running up 120 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: and um just kind of slip right through my arms 121 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: and wasn't able to fall back on it. And UM, 122 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: you know someone's gonna eat at me for until until 123 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: the next Sunday. Ask for sure. I mean you're a 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: guy that never does that, So I guess that's got 125 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: you mean you thry you know your deals reliability, Yeah, obviously, 126 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: And UM, it just just anytime you let the team down, 127 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: let you know, let your teammates down, and um, you know, 128 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: hurt the team. You know, you obviously disappointed and um 129 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: and as a as a man, a competitor, you know 130 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: you want to make every play and um, but unfortunately 131 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to do that today. Two plays after 132 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: the fumble, the Broncos made the Bengals pay second down 133 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: and seven at the Cincinnati thirty. After the fumbled putt, 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: Keenum fakes a handoff, looks to throw He's gonna air 135 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: it out into the end zone. Sutton goes up and 136 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Hall say and over Darius Phillips for a thirty yard 137 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: touchdown catch. Ericson's fumble is the Bengals first turnover of 138 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the game. Less than two minutes later, they made their 139 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: second double tight ends in for Cincinnati. Driscoll turns right 140 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: fakes to mix and being rushed, Lobs went deep down field, 141 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: intercepted at the six yard line. Obviously, my poor decision 142 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: when we were, you know, near the red zone to 143 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: just lob one up out there. You know that that 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: really hurt our football team. We hurt ourselves today and 145 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: we didn't make enough plays of winter football game. Lebroncos 146 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: down the other hand, did make enough plays, none bigger 147 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: than this play by Philip Lindsay. Here's a toss sweep 148 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: to the left, Lindsay with blockers in front to the 149 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: forty the fifty lookout. He is pulling away and that 150 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:47,679 Speaker 1: is going to be a sixty five yard touchdown run. Wow. 151 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: Lindsay finished with a career high one hundred and fifty 152 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: seven yards on nineteen carries. For the season, the undrafted 153 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: rookie out of Colorado has rushed for nine hundred thirty 154 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: seven yards and is averaging six point one a pop. 155 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: Here's Bengals linebacker Hardy Nickerson. He's dynamic. You know, he's underside, 156 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: but he hits the hole, you know, as he as 157 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: if he was a big guy. Um, you know, he's 158 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: able to show in the gap and bounce out. So 159 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: it makes it hard on on the whole defense in 160 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: terms of we really got to play true to our gaps. 161 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: But hell of a player. Um, you know, he's it's 162 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: one of those things. You're scratching her head. Why didn't 163 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: he get drafted. Not a lot of guys run like 164 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: that anymore either. It seems like everybody's kind of picking 165 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: and trying to, you know, do the Levy on Bell 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: type thing. And he just explodes one cut and he's 167 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: he's fast. I think, um, last last week or a 168 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: few weeks ago, they had him at twenty two miles 169 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: an hour, so's he can run with the best of him. 170 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, he's very decisive, and he really 171 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: hits the hole. The Bengals kept battling and answered Lindsay's 172 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: long run where they're only touched out of the day. 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: Drift Goal fakes a handoff, throws caught by Cody Court 174 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the fifteen, He escapes attack, he breaks another, he takes 175 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: it into the end zone, touchdown. Bengals on a thirty 176 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: yard throw from Driscoll to Corps in Brandley Robbie miss 177 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: to tackle Jeff Driscoll hit him, Bradley Robbie couldn't bring 178 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: him down in Cody Corps makes some pain. That was 179 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: the first career TD for third year receiver Cody Corps. 180 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: It was twenty one to ten going to the fourth quarter. 181 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: In playing catchup against the Broncos is tough with the 182 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: best one two pass rush duo in the NFL, Von 183 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Miller and Bradley Chubb. Shotgun snap, Driscoll gets hit from 184 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: behind by Chubb, The ball squirts out Denver will recover 185 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: at the twenty yard line, and that led to a 186 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Brandon McManis field goal that made the final score twenty 187 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: four to ten Denver. The Broncos win their third straight 188 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: even the record at six and six, while the Bengals 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: lose for the sixth time in their last seven games. 190 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, teams with five and seven records 191 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: only make the playoffs four percent of the time. Here's 192 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Alex Erickson at some point of you know, it's not 193 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: even about that, It's just about you know, being professional, 194 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: being a competitor, and um, you know he was doing 195 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: your job and no matter what your record is, and um, 196 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it's just up to you to perform, and if you don't, 197 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: you know, obviously there's gonna be consequences. So we just 198 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: got to focus on our jobs and just you know, 199 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: be professionals and prepare and get ready to just play 200 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers and get a win. In his first career start, 201 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Jeff Driscoll finished twenty five for thirty eight for two 202 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards with a touchdown, pass, an interception, 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: a loss fumble, and a passer rating of eighty point six. 204 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: Here's offensive lineman Trey Hopkins, who started a guard for 205 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: the first time this year. I was very impressive and 206 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: I thought I did great. Um dri was the guy. 207 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean love him since he's been here, and I 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: think he really stepped up and he really took charge 209 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: of the huddle and he kept God's positive, kept Gods 210 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: on the same page, and and really displayed a level 211 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: of leadership that you you need and you expect from 212 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: from a starting quarterback. He won't have to wait one 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: thousand and eighty days to start a n drift Go 214 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: will be under center next Sunday in Los Angeles against 215 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Now time to bring in my broadcast partner, 216 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham for postgame analysis, and we begin with a 217 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: dirty dozen the Bengals twelve penalties and you just can't 218 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: have it. I mean, you know, physical mistakes, holding, you know, 219 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: hands placement problems on returns and special teams, hand placement problems, 220 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: illegal blocking the back, holding, those kind of things. Defensively 221 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: you know too, hands e those happen. But the mental mistakes, 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: you know, jumping off sides, false starts, illegal formations, those 223 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: kind of mental mistakes. It's just now you're talking about, 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, a lack of focus, a lack of commitment. 225 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: You know you have at this stage of the season, 226 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: you can't be committing those kind of mental errors, and 227 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: and they're starting they're starting to really become an issue. 228 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: In the first half, they had six consecutive third down 229 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: conversion opportunities that average nineteen and a half yards per 230 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: conversion attempt because of penalties. You can't do that. I 231 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: mean against this team with those two pass rushers, you 232 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: never want to be more than third and four and 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: they're third one. They were third and sixteen, third and 234 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: twenty five, third and thirty nine, third and seventeen. Come on, now, 235 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: you know you have to stay ahead of the chains 236 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: on these guys. You have to make it a makeable 237 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: third down situation. It was just abominable, you know what 238 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: they were doing. They were giving themselves no chance whatsoever. 239 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the Denver Broncos defense is good enough to 240 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: beat you. You can't put yourself on your schedule two 241 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: and say, Okay, we're gonna make it easier for you 242 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: to beat this Denver. We're gonna play right into your 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: hands and we're just gonna let you t off and 244 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: thump us. Because that you know, that's exactly what you 245 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: put yourself into. Ten of the thirteen third down opportunities 246 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: at one stage of the game were for eight yards 247 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: or more. Denver had two of twelve the or eight 248 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: yards and more. Because Lindsay's boom, he's pounding it. If 249 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: he's not busting it for you know, fifty yard touchdowns, 250 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: he's getting six eight, you know, making it second and four, 251 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: second and two and then third and short. That was 252 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: a difference in the football game. You know, one team 253 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: set themselves up for third down situations when they got 254 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: there that they can and Burt and the Bengals got there. 255 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: Are far too often in situations that they had no 256 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: business being in and they couldn't convert them. Lap has 257 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: The season spirals in a bad direction for the Bengals. 258 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: Two guys stand out to me for really busting their 259 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: tail even as things are going poorly, Tyler Boyd and 260 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: Joe Mix and Boyd had ninety seven receiving yards in 261 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Sunday's loss, Mix in eighty two rushing yards thirteen receiving yards. Yeah, 262 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: I think both guys are are setting a good example, 263 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: you know. I think their effort, their enthusiasm. You know, 264 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: Joe the unbridled joy for the game. Tyler Boyd's the 265 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: same way. You know, he relishes an opportunity to make plays. 266 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: The dude is tough man. He'll go over the middle 267 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: against anybody anytime, anywhere, take a hit, go to the ground. 268 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: The ground will cause another hit on him. He's just 269 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I mean the catch he made caught the back half 270 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: of the football had a very like shocking drop. I mean, 271 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: it never happens. Tyler Boyd just doesn't drop the football, 272 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: but it happens to everybody. Everybody's a human being. But man, 273 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: both of those guys care care. There's no quit in 274 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: either of them. And more more guys should should look 275 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: at themselves in the mirror and say, am I given 276 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: the effort that those two are given? If I'm not 277 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: up the anti because those guys, Joe was almost inconsolable 278 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 1: um after the game. You know, he would trying to 279 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: excuse himself, going to get his mother at the airport 280 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: and didn't want to talk much about the game. But 281 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: when he did talk, he was he was crushed, crushed 282 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: and you know, you know he'll he'll bounce back. And 283 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: you guys, you know, on both sides of the football, 284 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: guys have to step up and start establishing an energy level. 285 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: The guys have to meet. Sam Hubbard, I think is 286 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: trying to do it as young guys. Sam Hubart's trying 287 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: to step up and be a leader and that's good 288 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: to see. And you know, Joe Mixon and Tyler Boyd 289 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: young leaders. That's what this football team needs. The next 290 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: class of guys, the next group to show themselves as leaders. 291 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: And it's easy to lead when you're winning. True leaders. 292 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like, what are you doing? The camera's 293 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: not on you, What do you do when nobody's watching. 294 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: These guys were leading final numbers on Jeff Driscoll and 295 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: his first NFL start twenty five for thirty eight two 296 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six yards, one touchdown pass a thirty 297 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: yard at to Cody Core, one interception, passer rating of 298 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: eighty point six. How do you do? He was lamenting 299 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: the interception, you know, he focused on that. When I 300 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: talked to him, he said, you know, a bonehead play 301 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I made when I just threw it up there. You 302 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: know I can't do that. I really heard our football 303 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: team and he you know, it was a tough situation. 304 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: Naked bootleg was not Chubble was not fooled by whatsoever. 305 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: He's pressure on him and he off his back foot 306 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: as he's fallen away. He just puts it up there 307 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: and overthrows his intended target and it's an easy, easy interception. 308 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: But honestly, I felt like in the first game as 309 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL, there would be an 310 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: interception or a play like, oh geez, that's a rookie 311 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: mistake or you know, an an experienced mistake, and I 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: was hoping it wouldn't be that many of them. And 313 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: there weren't that many, but there weren't any big plays 314 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: to overcome it. Just you know, you could think the 315 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: Tyler boy catch a couple of plays by Tyler Boyd. 316 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: He and Tyler Boyd have a chemistry. They've already they've 317 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: already formed a pretty pretty incredible bond that's going to 318 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: have to stay that way because AJ Green looks like, 319 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, it could be an IR candidate. I mean, 320 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton went on AJ Green the way he limped 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: off the field and then cart it off the field 322 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: once he going to be able to play again. By 323 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: the time he's able to play, the season will be over. 324 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: So um, you know, Tyler Boyd and Jeff Driscoll, that's 325 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: going to be the combination. And then Joe Mixon still gave, 326 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, tremendous efforts, so they do have like a 327 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: triplet's that they can you know, hang their hat on 328 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: hopefully and uh and see how it finishes. But I thought, overall, 329 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: considering a lot of the circumstances he was put in, 330 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: he was also disappointed in the fact that they didn't 331 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: take advantage of that turnover when Hardy Knickerson Junior stripped 332 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: it out of there and Jill fell on top that 333 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: they didn't do anything. But you know, and then obviously, 334 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: you know, have the ball at that at midfield, and 335 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you know you're third down, 336 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: You're back inside your twenty yard line. You know, just 337 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: ultimately throwing the throwing the drive and reverse. You know, 338 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: those are the kind of things you just can't have. 339 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: So some of it, very little of it was all 340 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: his fault, he contributed. Man, he had way too much help. 341 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: He had a lot of guys instead, instead of trying 342 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: to do a little bit more for him, they were 343 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: doing less and putting him in a tougher situation, putting 344 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: too much burdened responsibility on his shoulders. Last thing, following 345 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: up on AJ Green, he's the iceman, coolest guy in 346 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: the room. Rarely sees wild displays of emotion, whether it's 347 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: celebration or disappointment, But boy, what a sight to see 348 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: him head buried in his hands, crying as he exited 349 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: the field on a cart with a team on its 350 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: way to a five and seven record. It shows how 351 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: much AJ Green cares. AJ Green is all in. You know, 352 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to find a superstar that 353 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: cares about his teammates and cares about the welfare of 354 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 1: his organization more than AJ Green. Most superstar are just 355 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: all in it for them. He's all in it for everybody. 356 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: And that's what makes aj Green so so unique and 357 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: so special. I mean, you know, AJ Green is the 358 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: kind of guy that every dad wish that he'd marry 359 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: their daughter's that he's that kind of guy. And you know, 360 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: we say it all the time, but in this case, 361 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: it's this on exponentially as great a football player as 362 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: he is, and he is walking into the Hall of 363 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: Fame in a first ballot. You know, he's might as 364 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: well buy real estate in Florida and WHII is going 365 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: to be in every Pro Bowl. He's even better guy, 366 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: better human being. He was raised right. He's a great husband, 367 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: great father, great teammate, great member of the community. AJ 368 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: Green's one special dude. Thanks Lap. Now time for this 369 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,239 Speaker 1: week's fun facts segment, where you get to know the 370 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: person under the pads. In this case, it's one of 371 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals two third round draft picks this year. Time 372 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: for some fun facts with Bengals linebacker but Leak Jefferson 373 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: from Mesquite, tax not too far from Dallas, the so 374 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: called rodeo capital of Texas. Tell us a little bit 375 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: about where you grew up and what you're into as 376 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: a kid. Musque is a It's a great town. I 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: love it. It's a very small community. We've made up 378 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: of five different high schools, so we're all kind of 379 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: relatives when it comes to anything we do outside of 380 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: you know, when we leave Musqui. You know, growing up, 381 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: we always used to be around each other at basketball, football, baseball. 382 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: We always knew who the league guys were in the town, 383 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 1: and so it was really cool growing up. We just 384 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: all hung out with each other. Speaking of brothers, you 385 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: have two older brothers. How much older and how tough 386 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: were they on their kid brother? I had won that 387 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: thirty and I had won that twenty five, so they 388 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: were really tough on me. I barely got any breaks 389 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: with them. Everything they did I had to do, especially 390 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: workout wise, and that's what kind of made me, you know, 391 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: who I am. And of course our dad was very 392 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: tough on us, so I would get the same treatment 393 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: they got, but it was very I could appreciate my 394 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: brothers more than anything because they did give me a 395 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: lot of tools for life, skills and of course my 396 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: physical abilities. Tell me a little more about your dad, 397 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: What did or does he do for a living? My 398 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: dad's an architect. He's worked that many many years and 399 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: planning a retiring soon. So congrats his long longevity with that, 400 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: because without his sacrifice, I mean a lot of things 401 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: that wouldn't happen in my life wouldn't have happened. So 402 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: he's a great, great guy. He's my life mentor. He 403 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: tells me everything, even though we argue about things. I 404 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: have my own opinion, has his own opinions. I like 405 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: how we can be, you know, have our opinions and 406 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: of course solve them like men. And I appreciate the 407 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: respect he gives me. We're doing fun facts in the league, Jefferson. 408 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: There have been books, TV shows and movies done about 409 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: high school football in Texas. Was it like that at 410 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: poteat high school? Of course, we had all the crowds 411 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: and every rivaly game, people would love to come see 412 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: us because not only myself, but I had two other 413 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: teammates that were highly highly recruited out of high school, 414 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: and so people come to watch us play. And my 415 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: time in my school, I was probably the first person. 416 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I am the first person to go pro athletically and 417 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: make an active roster, so I put that step in stool. 418 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: So Hopefully we have some guys in the future that 419 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, follow my path and or aybody comes to 420 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the to the highest level of football. You won the 421 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: bud Kiss Award in high school top high school linebacker 422 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: in the country. Dick bud Kiss showed up at your 423 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: high school to give you the award. Was that a surprise. Yeah. 424 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: I had a feeling though. People can't hold water, so 425 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: I had a feeling he was going to be coming, 426 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: and it was really really cool to have that guy there, 427 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: and you know, people didn't know much about them, but 428 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: super legendary. I was hoping to get it in college, 429 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: but you know, things with their own ways, and you 430 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: know you have to learn and grow from that stuff. 431 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: You were a highly talented recruit. Did you enjoy the 432 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: process or was it exhausting? Actually it was a mix. 433 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's times where you just you know, want 434 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: to put your phone down and talk to your family, 435 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: be around your family. They want to talk to coaches 436 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: because you knew half of it wasn't real. They just 437 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: want to be honest with you. They you know, trying 438 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: to feed you what you want to hear, not what 439 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: you need to hear. So it was very tough. Especially 440 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: financially going places with the rules and regulations. I wasn't 441 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: able to bring both of my parents, so the places 442 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: that were farther I really considered. I really didn't get 443 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get the full look at them and 444 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: visit the university like I wanted to. But I think 445 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: it was a very fun experience overall, and I really 446 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. One of those more distant schools was UCLA, 447 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: and I read on your visit that you met actress 448 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: Kerry Washington aka Olivia Pope on the TV show Scandal, 449 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: one of People Magazine's most Beautiful Women in the World. 450 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: Tell me about that. It was really my mom. We 451 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: didn't get the thought to her much because she was 452 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: with some kids that day. Respectfully, we were like, that's 453 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: perfectly fine. You know, I'm not being into going up to, 454 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: you know, famous people and you know, going out of 455 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: my way to just especially when they're doing something to 456 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: bother them, because I do that sometimes, you know, but 457 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: I don't mind it. But the realm is different. They 458 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: get it everywhere she goes. But my mom was able 459 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: to speak to her, and I took a side picture 460 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: of them just talking. But I never got to actually 461 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: meet her, but it was really cool being around her. Yeah, 462 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: so more exciting for your mom than you. Yeah, very 463 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: excited for my mom. She was very polite to my mom. 464 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Was I am with the kids and once I take 465 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: one picture, more people are gonna come. And I was like, Okay, 466 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: I completely understand that. So it was really cool experience stuff. 467 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: Still we're doing fun factions with Malik Jefferson. You went 468 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: to Texas where one of your mentors was a former 469 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: Longhorns linebacker who's from here, Jordan Hicks, who went to 470 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: Lakota West High School. Tell us a little bit about 471 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: your relationship with Jordan. You know, Jordan, it was actually 472 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: the first person I met going into UT. I remember 473 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: it being my sophomore year. I showed up to a 474 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: UT game unofficially and I went to the locker room 475 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: and he gave me a pair of gloves and I 476 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: was like, oh, man, appreciate it. Like he was hurt 477 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: at the time. He had tour as Achilles and he 478 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: was on the car, but he gave me his girls 479 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: and forever since then, I looked up to him like 480 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: a big brother and I appreciate his mentorship, his advice 481 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: that he's given me, especially throughout all this process, because 482 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: it's very tough. You gotta have people who know what 483 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: you're going through to be able to get through it. 484 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: So he's a very big mentor of my life and 485 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: I still consistently talk to him. How did he react 486 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: when you were drafted by his hometown team? He just thought, 487 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: we congrats. It wasn't even big, you know, reaction or 488 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: anything like that. But hopefully in the all seasons we 489 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: can link up. You know, he has the family and 490 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: the new baby now, so congrats to him. Malake left 491 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: Texas with one year of eligibility remaining, and you put 492 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: out a thank you video when you announced that decision 493 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: that included some sign language. How much do you know? 494 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: I'm pretty fluent in it. I can sign. I actually 495 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: have dreams about doing sign language that hey, that's a 496 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 1: sign that you know what you know what you're doing. 497 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: Actually you kind of know the language. So I try 498 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: as much as I can to practice, especially like sometimes 499 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: when I'm in meetings, I'm in there spelling stuff. I 500 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: always thinking what it is in sign language. It's a 501 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: lot of the stuff is the stuff we already know 502 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: as kids. It's just little things that you know, you 503 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: gotta get used to doing day to day lives. There's 504 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: different kinds of stuff. But it's a very fun language 505 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: to learn, and the people I've met just doing that 506 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: is incredible. When did you learn it and why did 507 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 1: you choose to learn it? I learned it a year 508 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: and a half ago. I really started my in the 509 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: sophomore year and just kept practicing and then took the 510 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: classes of course. And you know, I had took in 511 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 1: Spanish classes before. I wasn't really grasping it. It's more 512 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: of a process. I wanted something I can actually grasp 513 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: and make an impact and influence with. So I did 514 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: American Sign Language and met some great friends. Got friends 515 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: everywhere now. So it's a really good experience. Have you 516 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: do something. But it's a radio interview, so it wouldn't 517 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: work out very well. You got invited to the NFL 518 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: scott In Combine and we've all heard the horror stories 519 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: about being poked in product, etc. But I read that 520 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. I did not enjoy it. I read incorrectly. 521 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: Apparently it feels like it's not a process for the 522 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: player because you sit around for four days after you've 523 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: done masters amounts of trainings the weeks before your training 524 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: every day. You're not used to just sitting around interviewing, 525 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: especially training your mind or just just torturing your mind 526 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: with the things you're seeing and the exposure and the 527 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: less sleep you get. You don't train for that. You 528 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: train to get more sleep and be ready to work 529 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: out the next day. So having four days off before 530 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 1: you actually work out what was my biggest issue. A 531 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: lot of people get hurt from that stuff. I think 532 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: it should be you fly in first, you work out 533 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: that next day, and the end you could do all 534 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: the interview process and stuff like that, so God can 535 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: be able to perform at a high level without being 536 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: exhausted or at tired. So I think that is something 537 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: they should definitely change because that will help the performance 538 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: of athletes instead of you know, because the comma is 539 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: really and make a break situation. Either do good, you 540 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: do bad, or you don't do it. So I think 541 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: it's definitely something to help out the players. If we're 542 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: gonna continue to do that process, it should be something 543 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: like that, all right. A couple more fun facts for 544 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: Bengals linebacker Malik Jefferson. You were the fourteen deck of 545 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: the third round this year the so called Pizza Hut 546 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: pie pick three point one four. You were supposed to 547 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: get free pizza for a year, but you went through 548 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: your stash before the year was up. Is that what happened? 549 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: I see? The thing is I had some friends and 550 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: family members, you know, people ask for things, and I'm like, yeah, 551 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, I get a free pizza whatever. They always 552 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: call me, Can I get a pizza? Like okay, I 553 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: like he's getting out of hand. But at the same time, 554 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I'm really not using the 555 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: pieces all the time because I got to beat healthy, 556 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: watching my diet things like that. So I was like, okay, 557 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: here go, here go, and I give them to people 558 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,399 Speaker 1: and let them do it. But I ran out, But 559 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: then Pizza had actually sent me some more. So anytime 560 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: I run out a parent that I think I can 561 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: get more pizza cards. But they, you know, they've done 562 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: a pretty good job with that, all right. I was 563 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: worried that there's some fine print that we weren't aware of. 564 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: No fine print. They're really good with that. I really 565 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: appreciate them, all right. Last thing from Malik Jefferson. Are 566 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: you familiar with the term die as steam? No? You 567 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: and Michael Strahan and David Letterman have that in common. 568 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: If I'm saying it right, that is the gap between 569 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: the front teeth. You've got a magnetic smile lights up 570 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: the room. But did kids used to kid you about 571 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: the gap between the front teeth? Yeah? Yeah, I was 572 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: thinking about doing actually some invisit line in the future. 573 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: But you know, mom kind of I get the smile 574 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: from Mom. It's it's her gap. She has those clothes. 575 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: I was like, that's not fair. You have your clothes 576 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: and I'm still open, but you know, it's it's a 577 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Everybody tells me when I'm not smiling, 578 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: it's something wrong, and so try it's best as I 579 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: can to put a smile on my face and you know, 580 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: show people happy. I am, Hey, you do have a 581 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: smile that lights up the room. I genuinely mean that, 582 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: and I appreciate your time very much. Best to luck 583 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. I appreciate it. And that's 584 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the podcast. 585 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: If you haven't done so already, don't forget to subscribe 586 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: on iTunes, Stitcher, or pod being and give it a 587 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: rating or leave a comment. Your feedback has been awesome 588 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: in five star ratings. Help more Bengals fans find this podcast. 589 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde. Thanks for listening to the Bengals Booth podcast.