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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys out now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Well, the trend continues around here, never
Speaker 1: a dull moment, and hopefully at the end of this
Speaker 1: day we won't have more breaking news after this edition
Speaker 1: of Mick Shots. This is a Thursday edition of Mick Shots.
Speaker 1: Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola inside the SWBC Mortgage
Speaker 1: studios here at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco.
Speaker 1: And we've got Everson Walls. He is hard at work
Speaker 1: jotting notes down as we speak. It's all that he
Speaker 1: search that he has done the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Hello Everson, how you're doing It's our guy. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: doing well. I just want to let you guys know
Speaker 1: I have an adjustment to my second account. It was
Speaker 1: it was a Sports Illustrated Jenks yesterday as Everson yesterday
Speaker 1: said that his pick to click was DeMarcus Lawrence, that
Speaker 1: he'll have two sacks of Justin Herbert. Well, I there
Speaker 1: all te right, you can write it down. Write it down,
Speaker 1: so he's gonna make an adjustment on that prediction. And
Speaker 1: it's again it continues a trend that started back class Friday,
Speaker 1: when it was after we signed off from Mixed Shots
Speaker 1: that we learned about the Lyall Collins five games suspension.
Speaker 1: Of course, Michael Gallup was ruled out for about three
Speaker 1: to five weeks at that point too, And then Monday,
Speaker 1: I think it was when the Randy Gregory covid occurred,
Speaker 1: and and then of course yesterday it's DeMarcus Lawrence and Mickey.
Speaker 1: You can start us off with an update on what
Speaker 1: you know as as DeMarcus with the fractured foot had
Speaker 1: to undergo surgery. So I laugh when I hear fractured foot.
Speaker 1: Is it like the whole foot just kind of cracks
Speaker 1: in half? By the way, before you get into it,
Speaker 1: we should also point out that Mickey kind of tipped
Speaker 1: this off at the end of yesterday's show because DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence was scheduled to meet with the media after practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: which coincided basically with the end of the show, and
Speaker 1: you peered outside and you saw that DeMarcus was not
Speaker 1: It's like you know, when you've been doing this long enough,
Speaker 1: sometimes you're in tennis, just kind of go up. When Lawrence.
Speaker 1: When Lawrence because because the injury occurred after the open
Speaker 1: open session for the media. Actually they were in some
Speaker 1: sort of drill. Mike McCarthy said. They were doing one
Speaker 1: on one pass rush and he came around, turned the
Speaker 1: corner and fractured the fifth metatarsal in his right foot.
Speaker 1: And guess what, Everson Mickey has experience with a fractured
Speaker 1: fifth metatarsal in his foot. Imagine that I did it
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Wealths No oh, I thought there was
Speaker 1: when Spags got hit by a car. No, no, no, ago.
Speaker 1: This was twenty years ago playing tennis. Um. But anyway,
Speaker 1: I'll get to that in a second. You're definitely not
Speaker 1: tougher than if you were playing ten right, So he
Speaker 1: ends he ends up fracturing the fifth metatarsal h in
Speaker 1: his right foot. So that's the bone on the outside
Speaker 1: that goes up into your little two. And in twenty fourteen,
Speaker 1: end of training camp, he fractured the fifth metatarsal in
Speaker 1: his right foot. So this is two for this one.
Speaker 1: When he left practice on the injury port, he left
Speaker 1: as limited foot and by mourning it was surgery fifth metatarsal.
Speaker 1: And what they do is they put a little screw
Speaker 1: in there to help facilitate a faster healing of that
Speaker 1: very small bone. But it's a very When when you
Speaker 1: hear somebody breaks a bone in their foot, it's usually
Speaker 1: the fifth metatarsal. For some reason, you never break any
Speaker 1: of the others. It seems like unless somebody stomps on you.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for him, you know, I remember when when
Speaker 1: we got back to the Star and I mean at
Speaker 1: the ranch, and I remember sitting there talking to him
Speaker 1: about that fifth metatarsal and he was in a boot,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I can't remember if they I
Speaker 1: think they did surgery back then. So he ended up
Speaker 1: And remember the IR rules were different, so I believe
Speaker 1: he missed eight games um and then came back time
Speaker 1: at that point and that was the minimum right at
Speaker 1: that point. Uh So here's the deal and and here's
Speaker 1: my experience. So when I fractured mine, um, doctor Fowler
Speaker 1: uh was uh was the one who x rayed, which
Speaker 1: is real funny and this is not funny, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna laugh. The x ray tech, the x ray technician.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting I'm sitting in the room, right and the
Speaker 1: guy comes in, puts the X ray up on the
Speaker 1: screen and he's looking at it, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he goes, oh, yeah, there it is right there. It
Speaker 1: was like celebrating he found where the fracture was. I
Speaker 1: was like, no, this is not a celebration, right. So
Speaker 1: doctor Fowler, who's one of the cowboys, doctor Fowler, I
Speaker 1: will assistant. Yeah, no, he didn't do it. His assistant.
Speaker 1: But doctor Fowler's one of the cow boys, assistant to doctors.
Speaker 1: And he comes in and kind of explains it. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna put you in a boot, and he goes, Now,
Speaker 1: if your livelihood depended on your foot, we would do surgery,
Speaker 1: put a screw in there, and you probably could get
Speaker 1: back and play four weeks, maybe six. But since you're
Speaker 1: not an athlete, then you're out for two months. Oh,
Speaker 1: since clearly you're not an athlete. Just looking at you,
Speaker 1: and I think he meant a professional, good look at you.
Speaker 1: I think he meant a professional. He took a good
Speaker 1: look at you when you first walked into the office.
Speaker 1: This guy he's a lost cause that's what he said.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, since they did the surgery on Lawrence.
Speaker 1: The soon as he could get back, is that first
Speaker 1: game after the buy that would be I think the
Speaker 1: you know, the best that could happen. So that would
Speaker 1: be what five five games, plus the byeway, plus the
Speaker 1: bye week, plus the week to get ready for the
Speaker 1: next game. So that's almost sound familiar. Sounds yeah, So
Speaker 1: sounds just like sounds just like Collins suspension. So now
Speaker 1: here are the Cowboys going into a game where they
Speaker 1: gonna need some pressure on Justin Herbert, the best quarterback
Speaker 1: that Gil Brand has ever seen, and they're without probably
Speaker 1: their two starting defense events Randy Gregory. Still in every
Speaker 1: time we play somebody, they are the best we've ever seen. Now,
Speaker 1: you said this guy is better than Tom Brady. Now
Speaker 1: so here we go every week is gonna be somebody's
Speaker 1: the best that I just quoted your buddy, Gil, that's all.
Speaker 1: And he was only a junior in college at that
Speaker 1: time too, by the way. Yeah, and well, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: Gil Brand, that's a good call, now, Gil, Gil, I
Speaker 1: talked trash about Gil, but that is a great call.
Speaker 1: And he's always had a great eye for talent and
Speaker 1: he wasn't not wrong, And it was the best prospect
Speaker 1: he has seen, probably best quarterback prospect that he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't quarterback of all time, he wasn't comparing him
Speaker 1: to Roger Stabok or Bart Star Joe Montana. Okay, So
Speaker 1: what moves have been made in order to accommodate this injury?
Speaker 1: Actually none yet? Okay, DeMarcus Lawrence is still on the
Speaker 1: what is a fifty two man roster um? And now
Speaker 1: you've got combination of Dorance Armstrong, uh Terrell, basham Um, Braley,
Speaker 1: Bradley and I and se Chauncy Goldston as your kind
Speaker 1: of other four backup defensive ends along with by the way,
Speaker 1: I guess I shouldn't forget him or Kamara is in
Speaker 1: that boat too, and who knows he may be active
Speaker 1: this week because they're gonna probably need all hands on
Speaker 1: deck to try to figure out some combination and some
Speaker 1: way to get pressure on the posing quarterback. Do you
Speaker 1: think they are perusing practice squads around them, especially since
Speaker 1: this is a multiple week and up to two month injury.
Speaker 1: Do you think that the obviously the scouting department is
Speaker 1: up to speed on who what edge rushers are on
Speaker 1: practice squads around the league. There is one who was
Speaker 1: in camp with the Cowboys, Rondelle Carter, who's on the
Speaker 1: Arizona practice squad right now, right, And then also they
Speaker 1: have a couple defensive ends on the practice squad. Brelan speaks,
Speaker 1: I believe. And there's one more that's escaping my mind
Speaker 1: because I remember looking in they had two defensive Oh Austin, Austin,
Speaker 1: I can't say it. Follow you, follow you who is
Speaker 1: in the training camp and played in preseason games, right,
Speaker 1: so speaks, I thinks has some I was not a
Speaker 1: pronunciation major. I was a written print major. We didn't
Speaker 1: have to talk. Right then I found out you're a man.
Speaker 1: That's right, absolutely, so well you do well. Here's one thing,
Speaker 1: and Mike McCarthy was asked about different people potentially used
Speaker 1: as a defensive end. Now it's not a full time
Speaker 1: defensive end. But in the portion of practice we were
Speaker 1: able to watch, Michael Parsons in the individual drills was
Speaker 1: not working with the linebackers. He was working with the
Speaker 1: defensive line, which he has done throughout preseason as well.
Speaker 1: He has spent time working with the defensive and a
Speaker 1: lot of that and a lot of that is and
Speaker 1: a lot of that is you know, when he's play.
Speaker 1: If they're in base defense and he's a four three
Speaker 1: outside and strong side linebacker, you know they can rush
Speaker 1: him off the edge, so he has to kind of
Speaker 1: sharpen up his pass rush skills. You know. Somebody say, well,
Speaker 1: they could start him, and I said, if you're playing
Speaker 1: a four to three and Michael Parsons, you're strong side
Speaker 1: or weak side defensive end, and you're putting them there
Speaker 1: to rush the quarterback, he ain't gonna get a chance
Speaker 1: to rush the quarterback because they're gonna run right at
Speaker 1: his scrawny little butt. That was Mickey, Who's who said that.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting a two hundred and forty six pound
Speaker 1: guy with his hand on the ground against the three
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pound offensive tackle. What do you think
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. We're gonna run right at you. You
Speaker 1: didn't have to describe it that way. Well, okay, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say skinny. He's scrawny at two. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the first time anyone's ever called Michael Parsons scrawny. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's like putting those little skinny safety he's on the
Speaker 1: line of screaming last year, right, It's not as bad
Speaker 1: as maybe Jordan Lewis, though, I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: really Spags, I don't think it's really out of the
Speaker 1: realm of possibilities that uh Michael can go in and
Speaker 1: stifle running play coming his way. He's quick enough, he's
Speaker 1: mean enough, he should enough, agile enough. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could have said that about uh God who was the DeMarcus,
Speaker 1: the other DeMarcus we had where he was small and
Speaker 1: scrawn in d where he was small and scrawny and
Speaker 1: did good for long, though not for long. I'll take
Speaker 1: this for I'll take this the one game right now,
Speaker 1: for one game. I'll take the scrawny Michael Parsons up
Speaker 1: against any any offensive linement that the Charges have. And
Speaker 1: when you look at the Armstrong and all these guys,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we can have this culture like Baltimore
Speaker 1: Ravens sake. Baltimore Ravens have always done with a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries, dealt with injuries, all kind of personnel changes
Speaker 1: when it came to COVID things that nature, and they've
Speaker 1: always been very good, at least a little competent with
Speaker 1: the next man up philosophy. With the Cowboys, we have
Speaker 1: enough depth on this team. I think it's time for
Speaker 1: that culture to emerge for us to what I mean, next,
Speaker 1: man up. We don't worry about yes, d laws out.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, d laws out. I know that's rough,
Speaker 1: but look, we got Durance and we've got Parsons. That's
Speaker 1: why we brought these guys in here. Let's see what
Speaker 1: ghosting can do. Then we draft this guy. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: see what our draft picks can do. Put these hungry
Speaker 1: guys in there, man, and let them work. I mean,
Speaker 1: Quinn's defense is made to where you can throw a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff at people, and you can cover up
Speaker 1: a lot of drawny two hundred guys and see how
Speaker 1: it works out well. And here's the other thing somebody
Speaker 1: asked about Jalen. I don't know about Jalen lining up
Speaker 1: on the outside, but his best pass rush is in
Speaker 1: the gaps up the middle. To me, that's where he is.
Speaker 1: He was the best. And I think they've got some
Speaker 1: linebackers that they can use in that situation, all right,
Speaker 1: And with Parsons, he has experience rushing the passer, going
Speaker 1: back to high school schools. Yes, this is like deja
Speaker 1: vu all over again for Michael Parsons. You probably have
Speaker 1: heard the story that he told about his freshman year
Speaker 1: in high school. He was a backup, and you know
Speaker 1: he's a freshman. You know they're not. You don't typically
Speaker 1: have freshman who will who will start on the varsity
Speaker 1: football team. Well, they had an injury on their defensive line,
Speaker 1: and so the coach puts Michael Parsons in there to
Speaker 1: replace him, even though he was a scrawny linebacker. And
Speaker 1: what does he do. He came up with the game
Speaker 1: winning of forest fumble. I think it was a striped sack.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the exact story, but I do know this.
Speaker 1: He went on his freshman year in high school to
Speaker 1: have eighteen and a half sacks rushing the passer. The
Speaker 1: coach had no idea he could do that at the time. Okay,
Speaker 1: as a freshman in high school. So you're looking for
Speaker 1: another Dak Prescott deal here and so here it is.
Speaker 1: It's deja vu all over again, where Okay, the former
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl defensive end goes down for the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: and I'm not and I agree with you. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't play Michael Parsons. You know at defensive end
Speaker 1: full time, you can play linebacker. But in pass rush situations,
Speaker 1: right line him up at at the edge and let
Speaker 1: him get after it. See, and here's the good thing
Speaker 1: about that. If they want him to do that, then
Speaker 1: if they still want to play their nickel, then you
Speaker 1: got Kean O'Neil and Layton vander h exactly. Vander Esh
Speaker 1: has played in that spot and his rooking yet he
Speaker 1: was very he was very good at it. So, uh,
Speaker 1: that's where your depth comes in. And then with Dorin's
Speaker 1: armstrong by the way, you know, it's one thing to
Speaker 1: be all Oxnard, Now it's time to be you know,
Speaker 1: all home sodium. Yeah. Absolutely, and let's see him step up.
Speaker 1: We've been hearing about the Durance Dorans, so now it's
Speaker 1: his time. I'm excited about Drance. But it's just like
Speaker 1: Nate knew and always said, same thing, make you laugh,
Speaker 1: make your cry. Getting back to the scarwny Parsons. When
Speaker 1: you have a three hundred and fifty pound guy pulling around,
Speaker 1: he's got to keep up with that scarwny two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty pound linebackers. Right, quickness can sometimes overwhelm strength.
Speaker 1: So you got the big guy coming around there, will
Speaker 1: he be adsile enough to be able to handle the
Speaker 1: ferociousness and the aggressiveness of Michael Parsons that remains to
Speaker 1: be seen. All right, we're just getting started on this
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Speaker 1: I forgot. Uh, I forgot one injury leon let Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need an update on Leon Lettow it was what happened.
Speaker 1: It was a quad tendon tear, and he's out for
Speaker 1: Sunday's game, not going. They didn't he didn't say if
Speaker 1: he who's who's gonna step in? Who's stepping in? Who? Who? Well?
Speaker 1: Aiden Dirty is the other assistant defensive line coat, so
Speaker 1: if Quinn's upstairs, then um Aiden's got more responsibility on
Speaker 1: the ground. But yeah, he got hurt, he said. He
Speaker 1: guys ever had major surgery while he played. I think
Speaker 1: he had a knee once at least. Uh So he
Speaker 1: has a torn quad and he somehow got caught up
Speaker 1: in the sled. You know, he would stand on the sled.
Speaker 1: I think when uh they were doing those pass rush
Speaker 1: drills or whatever, and I don't know what went wrong,
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Speaker 1: the on the cart that when they brought him in.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, no, no Leon uh oh he and
Speaker 1: and by the way, he had surgery also. Uh so
Speaker 1: Mike announced he's not traveling to LA And then there
Speaker 1: was no Donovan Wilson at practice either. Yeah, what's the
Speaker 1: story with Donovan got a sore groin that it looks like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remembered the end of training camp. So uh so
Speaker 1: it looks like Malie Cooker is ready to go. So
Speaker 1: let's look at since last Thursday. So it's a week
Speaker 1: it's been at the bar, all right, So what's happened
Speaker 1: since last Thursday? All right? Michael Gallup got hurt in
Speaker 1: the game? I all right, Now, Donovan Wilson, I guess
Speaker 1: you could say you got hurt in the game, but
Speaker 1: he's not on IR. He's just not practicing, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: So that was an aggravated injury coming out of the game.
Speaker 1: And then what aggravated everybody the next day was Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins being suspended for five games. That's aggravated not only
Speaker 1: him and his agent also. And then Zach Martin comes
Speaker 1: back on Monday. But Randy Gregor, and so did Brandon
Speaker 1: Knight got activated on Monday, and but Randy Gregory goes
Speaker 1: on the COVID list. That's three starters, okay, um at
Speaker 1: three or four? Four? Now four starters. We're going to
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, right, yeah, gall Right, Gallup, Gallup, Wilson, Gregory,
Speaker 1: and Collins. And now we've got DeMarcus Lawrence. So there's five,
Speaker 1: five starters that started against Tampa Bay that are not
Speaker 1: going to be here this week. And Darren Thompson was
Speaker 1: kind of a starter on special teams and he's on
Speaker 1: practice squad ir. So it hasn't been a good week. No, No,
Speaker 1: it's a matter of fact. It's one of those deals
Speaker 1: where I suggested the other day, I said, when Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy lays his head on the pillow at night, he's
Speaker 1: got to be beaten his head on the pillow, going
Speaker 1: why me? Last year the offensive line, now this year
Speaker 1: the defensive line. So when you look at things, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a reason that this team has so many linebackers.
Speaker 1: There's are versatile guys, you know, And there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of talk about snap counts from the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: game and the fact that Parsons had around fifty snaps.
Speaker 1: Kean Uneil as well, and Layton Vanderish and Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: we're in the range of fifteen snaps in that game.
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox is another guy that has shown some potential.
Speaker 1: But it gives this team some flexibility going forward as
Speaker 1: they weather the storm of these injuries. Don't you think, yes,
Speaker 1: I think they've got some guys that can. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously you're gonna play Layton vander as significantly more snaps
Speaker 1: in this game. I bet Jalen and they even though
Speaker 1: the injuries have not occurred per se at the linebacker position.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with this defense and with defenses across
Speaker 1: the league now, these are more hybrid defenses. It's typically
Speaker 1: even though they may say it's a four to three
Speaker 1: or another team may say they run a three four,
Speaker 1: there's there's so many Especially when you're gonna throw the
Speaker 1: ball fifty times, you know, the Chargers through at forty
Speaker 1: seven times the other day against Washington. You're in your
Speaker 1: nickel a whole lot, you know, with a four man
Speaker 1: front and so and there's different ways that you can
Speaker 1: use these linebackers. And it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: I was gonna say San Diego La Chargers attack the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense. You know, will they go three wide or
Speaker 1: will they stay in a more traditional offense forcing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys into more of a base. But even some of
Speaker 1: their defensive ends, you know, you could look at them
Speaker 1: as stand up outside linebackers too, like who's ready to play?
Speaker 1: And Camara? You know, because you know Camara now, now
Speaker 1: he's kind of small, right thin, he's tall. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: a past Russian. Yeah, So they're gonna have to lean
Speaker 1: on these guys, you know, and and and and here's
Speaker 1: the deal. You know, score some points, you know, don't
Speaker 1: don't depend on your offense to hold somebody to seventeen
Speaker 1: or twenty points. You know, you may have to score
Speaker 1: thirty to win that. But that's the that the mo
Speaker 1: of this defense, those spags, It's always going to be
Speaker 1: that until we change the culture. We're always gonna play
Speaker 1: off of our offense because it's gonna be so powerful.
Speaker 1: It's usually gonna have all the use of all the
Speaker 1: play clock pretty much every game, so you're gonna depend
Speaker 1: on that. So our defense is usually gonna go out there,
Speaker 1: hopefully in the position, not like in Tampa, but hopefully
Speaker 1: in the position of playing against an offense that had
Speaker 1: to react to our offensive success. I'm hoping that's to me,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be our best case scenario. You start talking
Speaker 1: about the Chargers, you know the Washington football team. They
Speaker 1: have big guys up front, So you can imagine Herbi
Speaker 1: going up there thinking about pass running the ball. How
Speaker 1: many times do you think he audibled from a running
Speaker 1: play to a passing play because you look at that
Speaker 1: front seven and you're thinking this is not gonna work,
Speaker 1: the same way the Cowboys had to do when Dak
Speaker 1: had to change out. Also, the Cowboys did the same
Speaker 1: same thing with Brady. We allowed we we showed him
Speaker 1: a look. He audible. I think they say the audible
Speaker 1: maybe twenty times from a pass I'm sorry, from a
Speaker 1: running play to a passing play. And I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the same thing in this game. We're going
Speaker 1: to force them to throw the ball because we're gonna
Speaker 1: be doing all kinds of goofy stuff up front. Probably
Speaker 1: no one will have their hands on the ground, and
Speaker 1: that that can give a quarterback pause and cause him
Speaker 1: to audible a lot doing a ball game. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: speaking of the Chargers defense. The Redskins did run for
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six yards. So you know, Zeke
Speaker 1: Pollard maybe even Clement out of the backfield. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a pretty good pass catcher too. Probably he might
Speaker 1: be the fastest one of the bunch. Now, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's faster than Pollard, but um, you know
Speaker 1: he's he's he's got some elusiveness to him. I've got
Speaker 1: a question, place Bags, I've got a question for you.
Speaker 1: Do you think that Todd Bows came into the game saying,
Speaker 1: We're not going to let Zeke control this game. We're
Speaker 1: going to see if Dak Prescott is as ready as
Speaker 1: he claims to be. So do you think they deliberately
Speaker 1: forced him to call off run plays and audible to
Speaker 1: passing plays just to see what he was at? I
Speaker 1: absolutely agree with you. Absolutely they did because they majority
Speaker 1: of the time they were playing a five man front,
Speaker 1: and I mean five on the defensive line, so that
Speaker 1: spreads out if you want to get to the edge.
Speaker 1: The edge just got wider. And I think that I
Speaker 1: think he made that bet and he almost lost it
Speaker 1: because I'm sure he was you know what, I'm sure
Speaker 1: he was using the hard knockses his scouting report on
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott right that in Phil Simms. I can't. I
Speaker 1: just can't get over that one. And they were both wrong. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because Phil was using his scouting report off what he
Speaker 1: saw and hard knocks, you know. And I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys purposely made sure that they didn't over expose what
Speaker 1: Dak was doing in practice. We all saw it, we
Speaker 1: were there. They didn't They had to go by word
Speaker 1: of mouth unless they had somebody in one of those
Speaker 1: condos over there and knock Nart overlooking the practice field,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Chargers have the ability or the
Speaker 1: personnel to really stack the line against our running game,
Speaker 1: even with the injuries that we have. If Zach Marden's
Speaker 1: coming back, and we think he is, he's going to
Speaker 1: be in great shape. I think We're going to try
Speaker 1: and feast off of their defensive line, and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: that Dak doesn't have to I think I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: our passing game itself doesn't have to be so prominent
Speaker 1: in this game. I'm hoping we can feed off that
Speaker 1: running game and control the clock on these guys and
Speaker 1: keep keep old. Justin Gil's boy Out of the game.
Speaker 1: What it is interesting looking at the Chargers defense and
Speaker 1: maybe you want to dive into the Chargers coming back here? Okay,
Speaker 1: do that's time for another breaks. Let's dive into the Chargers.
Speaker 1: It is an interesting team that is one and no
Speaker 1: trying to go to two. And oh we'll get into
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Speaker 1: final segment here. We got eleven minutes to break down
Speaker 1: the Chargers a little bit. We're let's start with the
Speaker 1: injury report. We focus so much on the Cowboys injury report.
Speaker 1: What about the Chargers. Well, this injury report from yesterday
Speaker 1: shows that they had six guys that did not practice.
Speaker 1: Now some of these guys could maybe they needed a
Speaker 1: day or so to make sure they got to Sunday,
Speaker 1: but they're one of their big injuries. Brian Bulaga, they're starting.
Speaker 1: I think he's the right tackle. Yes, he is thirty
Speaker 1: two years old, twelfth season, and he's got a groin
Speaker 1: and a back, and I believe he left the game
Speaker 1: last week with a back injury, so that's growing and
Speaker 1: the back, Yeah, it is an old injury, right, that's right,
Speaker 1: So that's that's pretty that's a pretty significant one for them.
Speaker 1: So maybe one of these backup cowboy defense events can
Speaker 1: feast on a backup tackle that ever, since that's pretty
Speaker 1: bunch at old Man's couple of injuries, yeah, we know,
Speaker 1: we know that. And then I believe these other guys
Speaker 1: are starters. Kyler fral outside line, another former Packer just
Speaker 1: like Bulaga, a knee, Chris Harris Junior starting corner with
Speaker 1: a shoulder, Derwin James their star safety with a toe.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, they've got some guys that you would
Speaker 1: recognize that are suffering from some injuries. So that'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to keep an eye on there. Okay, so would
Speaker 1: you like to look at their offense or their defense? Here,
Speaker 1: let's look at their defense. Okay, how about we start
Speaker 1: with Derwin James because you mentioned him just now. That
Speaker 1: guy is a freak, came out of Florida State athletically.
Speaker 1: He has been in injury prone though in his career
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. He had a great rookie
Speaker 1: season all rookie team, had three picks and three force fumbles,
Speaker 1: three and a half sacks his rookie year, and it
Speaker 1: looked like he was going to be a perennial pro bowler.
Speaker 1: And then he missed. Guess what injury he had his
Speaker 1: second year. It was late in the preseason. He had
Speaker 1: a stress fracture of the fifth metatarsal, fifth metatarsal, and
Speaker 1: he missed three months with the shoes. If the shoes,
Speaker 1: they need to change the shoes now. Now, as we know,
Speaker 1: as we as Mickey has already cited early in the show,
Speaker 1: not all fifth metatarsals are made alike. Mickey's is much
Speaker 1: unlike DeMarcus Lawrence's. And we hope that DeMarcus Lawrence much
Speaker 1: unlike DeMarcus Lawrence period. And we hope that DeMarcus Lawrence's
Speaker 1: fifth metatarsal is different than Derwin james fifth metas arsal
Speaker 1: because James missed three months of the season when he
Speaker 1: had the fifth metatarsal stress fracture that required surgery. He
Speaker 1: also missed all of last season with a torn meniscus.
Speaker 1: But he is back and now you say he's on
Speaker 1: the injury report with a toe injury. He is another
Speaker 1: guy in their secondary to look out for, though, is
Speaker 1: a Sante Samuel and of course ever sen you're very
Speaker 1: familiar with his dad, four time Pro bowler, Sante Samuel Senior.
Speaker 1: And Samuel is a second round draft pick and he
Speaker 1: played well last week against Washington and a lot of
Speaker 1: people really liked him in that second tier of cornerbacks
Speaker 1: who came out. He's not he doesn't have the same
Speaker 1: size as the first round guys that we talked about,
Speaker 1: Sir Tann as well as j. C. Horn, but he
Speaker 1: was a playmaker at Florida State. Well, he might have
Speaker 1: to get into the game if Chris Harris is he's
Speaker 1: the other starting corner and you never know. He's like
Speaker 1: I said, he's out with our list. Miss practice yesterday
Speaker 1: with a shoulder and Michael Davis is their other corner now.
Speaker 1: Samuel played forty seven snaps, so he was their third
Speaker 1: corner and he played forty seven snaps against Washington last week.
Speaker 1: Also one of their other starting safety, Nasir Adderlee. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's on here too, by the way, with a groin.
Speaker 1: And you know who he's related to, Herb. That's right.
Speaker 1: He is Herb, the late Badderly's third cousin. Wow. How's this, hey, Everson,
Speaker 1: how's this for the Packer connection? With this Chargers team,
Speaker 1: They've got Herb Adderly's third cousin, Nasir Adderly O. They're
Speaker 1: starting free safety, and their offensive coordinator Joe Lombardi. He's
Speaker 1: Vince Lombardi's grandson. Wow, come on man. Yes, it's too much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's too much. This is this is set up for
Speaker 1: the foss and whip their asses. This is good all
Speaker 1: right now. By the way, it's going to be payback
Speaker 1: for the Ice Bowl. That's what this is. So they're
Speaker 1: they're one of their starting inside linebackers and helped me.
Speaker 1: If you're from I'm wrong, but Kenneth Murray yes, Oklahola Homa, yeah,
Speaker 1: number nine, who played peewee football with Ceedee Lamb in
Speaker 1: the Houston areas Fort Ben Elkins High School ever since.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this is getting too freaking guys. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't I miss no high school. Yeah, high school for you,
Speaker 1: Elkins high School, even if it wasn't around here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a place I never heard of. Ye, that's a Houston area.
Speaker 1: And then of course up front the guy that leaps
Speaker 1: off the screen. And so they've got stars at all
Speaker 1: three levels of their defense, right if you start with
Speaker 1: Derwin James on the back end, Kenneth Murray linebacker, and
Speaker 1: then up front Joey Bosa, which brings us to the
Speaker 1: problem tackle for the Cowboys before we moved to that,
Speaker 1: we have to look at as we talk about these dbs.
Speaker 1: They have these cornerback, young cornerbacks coming in. Let's be real,
Speaker 1: we're talking about what we fear on the opposing team.
Speaker 1: They've got to be looking at Cooper. They've got to
Speaker 1: be looking at CD lambing, going, bro, we got to
Speaker 1: work cut out for us. They've got to be looking
Speaker 1: at this passing game, whether it's it's uh Shoults or
Speaker 1: whoever they is playing tight end Jarving. They've got to
Speaker 1: be thinking, guys, how are we going to hold these
Speaker 1: guys down so that we can hold the points down.
Speaker 1: I mean, we always talk about the problems that we're having.
Speaker 1: Matchup wise, they are going to have some serious problems
Speaker 1: with these young dbs injured safeties as well. They're gonna
Speaker 1: have some problems with that, and the Cowboys are gonna
Speaker 1: look forward to eating them alive. Mickey, I was looking,
Speaker 1: I was, I was looking at one of their I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you, so, Bill, who's their other
Speaker 1: edge Russia. Well, they got the starter at defensive ends
Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery, Jerry Yeah, nin name o Chenna oh Sue, yeah,
Speaker 1: just stop, just stop. Four and a half sacks last year.
Speaker 1: Tillery is also a first round DRAP. He was late
Speaker 1: first round. So one of the guys, Na McCarthy pointed
Speaker 1: out on their defense also was Linville Joseph, the defensive lineman,
Speaker 1: you know, and we're talking about Tampa Bay and what
Speaker 1: they had in their interior on their defensive line. Linville Joseph.
Speaker 1: He's a former two time pro bowler. He also won
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl ring with the Giants. It's going back
Speaker 1: a decade now, nearly. But when you look at Linville
Speaker 1: Joseph and now he's in his early thirties. He was
Speaker 1: a second round pick of the Giants eleven years ago,
Speaker 1: and then he was with the Vikings before landing with
Speaker 1: the Chargers. But if you look at his measurables back
Speaker 1: at the combine, thirty nine bench reps, okay, and let's
Speaker 1: see he his vertical thirty one and a half and
Speaker 1: an eight six broad jump on scouting terminology, if you
Speaker 1: total the bench, the vertical and the broad jump and
Speaker 1: add those together and get above seventy, those explosive explosion
Speaker 1: traits are through the roof. His is up near eighty
Speaker 1: with the thirty nine bench reps and a thirty one
Speaker 1: and a half. This is Lymbell Joseph. And we're talking
Speaker 1: a man who's three hundred and thirty pounds who has
Speaker 1: those kind of measurables. So I assume he's the nose tackle. Well,
Speaker 1: he moves. He moves pretty At least eleven years ago,
Speaker 1: he moved pretty well for a three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: pound man. But Justin Jones is their other inside starter
Speaker 1: defensive line. He's three hundred ten pounds. So Everson, did
Speaker 1: you ever play on a three four defense Giants? Yes,
Speaker 1: you did with the Giants, So how do you think
Speaker 1: teams tried to attack you when you had kind of
Speaker 1: those undersized outside linebackers. Well, see, that's the thing. The
Speaker 1: Giants never had undersized outside that they just didn't have it.
Speaker 1: You had Carl Banks and Lawrence Taylor, right, and then
Speaker 1: you inside. Of course you had Less was a great player,
Speaker 1: but he was lightweight. When they brought in Steve Dioce,
Speaker 1: who was they were they were attacking the bubble with
Speaker 1: Pepper Johnson, and you know, after weekend with Pepper and Dice,
Speaker 1: they might check in, you know that their weight might
Speaker 1: be two forty or two fifty listed, but by the
Speaker 1: time the weekend's done, they had been drinking and eating
Speaker 1: two sixty. So I mean, there's no guard that's gonna
Speaker 1: be able to stop them from bursting that bubble when
Speaker 1: they attacked those guards, so nothing was inside. You had
Speaker 1: the big guys up front, as far as the d
Speaker 1: lynman at outside, you have Banks and the lt and
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know what the hell y'all talking
Speaker 1: about it. And then and then you missed Terry Carson, right.
Speaker 1: Terry Carson was gone. He got to the Giants and
Speaker 1: he was six two, two hundred and thirty seven pounds
Speaker 1: inside for the Giants back then. All right, I want
Speaker 1: to get before that that was that was under That
Speaker 1: was other size as well. By the way, there you go.
Speaker 1: There you go, not back then though, you though. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying he was about two fifty game time. Okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that the number was the undersize. That was when he
Speaker 1: came into the league. He was two thirty seven by
Speaker 1: the time he all right, Um, This from Terrell Basham today, Okay,
Speaker 1: when asked about the prospects of facing Chargers right tackle
Speaker 1: Brian Bulaga, who, as we mentioned, is dealing with groin
Speaker 1: and back injuries. Here's the quote from Basham. I played
Speaker 1: against Bolaga last year and I had fun with it.
Speaker 1: I just remember hitting the quarterback a lot that day.
Speaker 1: I told you when we first heard this guy do
Speaker 1: his first interview, I said, we need this guy to
Speaker 1: be good because we need to do interviews with him. Well,
Speaker 1: you're getting your wish well, you know. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that he was really good at it hard knocks,
Speaker 1: was imitating DeMarcus Lawrence. So if he can do his voice,
Speaker 1: can he do his pass rush? That's good? He was further, ever, Sin,
Speaker 1: do you like it? Do you like guys who talk
Speaker 1: a good game like that, Yeah, I do, because it
Speaker 1: really keeps it keeps you, you know, distracted from from
Speaker 1: how serious everything is. He kind of lightens things up.
Speaker 1: And if they're having a good game, then you really
Speaker 1: feed off of them. So let's hope he goes out
Speaker 1: there talking trash and has a good game. You have
Speaker 1: to fire up the entire huddle, I the entire defense.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk, right,
Speaker 1: walk the walk? All right? I think that doesn't for
Speaker 1: this edition. We've talked to talk for the last forty
Speaker 1: five minutes. Bicky, Well, it sounds like we should be
Speaker 1: able to see Jimmy here in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: because they're gonna get their rings at the Eagles game,
Speaker 1: oh home opener. All right, so all three guys as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, So it'd be good too. So
Speaker 1: Jimmy goes into the Ring of Honor that night. Ohs,
Speaker 1: he gets his Hall of Fame ring. I know about
Speaker 1: the one thing at a time. Jerry said he didn't
Speaker 1: want to spoil this. Yeah, one thing at a time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hall of Fame first being ring. That makes sense, ye,
Speaker 1: all right? That does it for this edition of Mick
Speaker 1: Shots and we will talk at you again tomorrow and
Speaker 1: Mickey will walk the walk on a Friday, leading you
Speaker 1: up to game day on Sunday the Chargers. As this
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