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Speaker 1: On the Bobby Bones Show.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, did you say that?

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Speaker 1: I thought you said it.

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: It didn't sound like an echo something.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here.

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Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: We have a lot of stuff to talk about. I

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Speaker 1: would first, have you seen the video that I made you?

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Speaker 1: Never mind? Never mind?

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Speaker 2: Never no? No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it yet, then maybe you're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to know about it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm not supposed to know about it.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not the anniversary of your record. Never mind.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm not going to say anything about it.

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Speaker 1: I just shouldn't have said anything. I was just gonna

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Speaker 1: make a point about something. How you doing, Jody.

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Speaker 4: A minute?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You're about to have a big anniversary for your first album?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: How many years?

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Speaker 2: Thirty?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is pretty great. And so if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it yet, I will tell you. I did a

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Speaker 1: whole video talking about it and what it meant to

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Speaker 1: me and all of that. But if you haven't seen

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Speaker 1: it yet, one day you'll see it. I haven't seen it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: then I'll just leave it there. It was only me, okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh go go, I'm ready. I'm ready. First of all,

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Speaker 2: you know I love you.

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Speaker 1: I could not hold a mirror up and say it

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Speaker 1: back to you one hundred times over. So you're so awesome.

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Speaker 4: Same to you, and I follow you and I just

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Speaker 4: support you.

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Speaker 2: And you know that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You've gotten messages for me than you can I do.

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Speaker 2: I just said, you're just such a jewel.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you. This is not about me. I want

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Speaker 1: to make it about you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's make it about you.

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Speaker 1: What is it? Is it cool to be like TikTok

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Speaker 1: famous because you are you are. Your stuff goes viral

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Speaker 1: all the time. People love you on TikTok. It's like

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Speaker 1: a whole new age of people that get to like

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Speaker 1: experience what we got to experience.

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Speaker 2: The crazy dances, it's just all of it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well we have a fun thing we and we haven't

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Speaker 4: put it up yet. But last weekend we played in

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Speaker 4: California and the guy that choreographed all the snow back

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Speaker 4: when I always like had Dancer is it Everything lived

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Speaker 4: out there and he choreographed a new dance to one

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Speaker 4: of the hits, and so we recorded that while we

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Speaker 4: were out doing a festival this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Your stuff pops?

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Speaker 4: Thanks?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like you do you do? You keep track of

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Speaker 1: what your videos do, like.

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Speaker 2: Like seventy sometimes.

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Speaker 4: But it's we're moving so fast and now everything's getting

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Speaker 1: So and this is the first record, like new new music, right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, in a long time, over ten years now. I

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Speaker 4: released something I think in.

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen, not a full record though, like just like

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Speaker 2: a go fundme or whatever. It was a kickstarter.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what they's doing business, I don't know,

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Speaker 4: so something like that, but a major release label thing.

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Speaker 4: The last thing that came out I think was my

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Speaker 4: give it I'm bus said, was it two thousand and seven?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a long time.

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Speaker 1: What does it feel like to put out a new

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Speaker 1: project because it's been again we have done a full project.

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Speaker 1: Is there are their nerves? Is it excitement? Is it both?

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Speaker 2: Both?

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Speaker 1: Are there expectations other people?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: What do you mean? What do you mean?

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Speaker 4: You know, just other people have expectations for it, and

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Speaker 4: so you don't want to let people down, especially those

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Speaker 4: that are working really hard on it, you know, and

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Speaker 2: So I'm just happy to be here, Bobby, you know

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Speaker 2: that Earth or in the studio just.

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Speaker 4: The studio of course and Earth No literally every morning.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm like, this morning I sat outside and

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Speaker 4: I was like, God, thank you for today.

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Speaker 2: I get today.

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Speaker 1: Well, today's big da because of the singles out. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the new album will be out the summer, but the

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Speaker 1: new song is out, and so we're going to play

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Speaker 1: some bridges.

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Speaker 5: So this.

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Speaker 1: It will. Yes, it feels like a wisdom song it is.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about it.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, we grew up as you're growing up

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Speaker 4: or always told you know, don't be burning bridges.

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Speaker 2: Don't burn bridges.

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Speaker 4: You know, oh I know they you know, like with

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Speaker 4: my kids, I'm like, don't don't be rude to those

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Speaker 4: hockey players in rec hockey because you don't want to

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Speaker 4: burn those bridges because they'll probably on your team next year.

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Speaker 4: Or you know, be respectful to the coach. Don't be

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Speaker 4: burning bridges because you know you might run into them. Whatever,

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Speaker 4: and we're told, don't burn bridges you because you're not

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Speaker 4: going to find your way back. And or if you

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Speaker 4: take chances, which is so funny because I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: your book and fail until you don't if you don't

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Speaker 4: take chance.

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Speaker 2: If you take.

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Speaker 4: Chances, oh you're gonna you know, you might end up

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Speaker 4: off track. You know, you might make a mistake, you

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Speaker 4: might fail. And it's like you sometimes you have to fail,

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Speaker 4: you know, sometimes you and sometimes you have to burn

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Speaker 4: bridges if they lead you back to a place that

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Speaker 2: It's not it's not worthy.

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Speaker 1: Did you feel like this was the single when you

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Speaker 1: wrote it? Or did you get all the songs together

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Speaker 4: Bobby?

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Speaker 2: Did we send you a link for the album?

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Speaker 1: Why do you say that it's loaded?

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Speaker 2: I let someone else pick it because I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh I love this one. Oh I love this one.

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Speaker 4: Oh I love this So I was, yeah, They're like, boom,

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Speaker 1: But so I wasn't Yeah, okay, So I have other

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Speaker 1: What song comes to mind? If I just say, Jody Messina,

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Speaker 1: what's what song first comes to mind? Of all of them?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's got to be heads Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Would you think that's common? Is it? Most? Is it

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Speaker 1: is that with most people? Because I think bye Bye

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Speaker 5: I was trying to see if another would come to me,

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Speaker 5: But then that wouldn't be fair because then that the

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Speaker 5: first one was Heads Carolina.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the first one is the people?

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Speaker 4: Probably right now, Heads Carolina because of its resurgence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because of its resurgence and ah with Cole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's right.

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Speaker 4: But but if you look at you know what people

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Speaker 4: are playing from my catalog, I think Bye Bye was first.

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Speaker 2: Then I'm alright, Then Heads Carolina is, Yeah, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of them. Then less and stampside me on the.

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Speaker 1: Rain sings all your songs back Amy and here Amy,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 5: Oh, somebody's gonna give you lesson and leave some bad

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Speaker 5: He's gonna give you back you and and I'm around

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Speaker 5: to watch you knock it down.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I threw you off.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, No, it's no trust me. You didn't throw trust me.

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Speaker 1: That's not it at all. Are you still living away

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Speaker 2: I live here? No, now, I went I didn't. I

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Speaker 2: don't talk about this a lot, but.

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Speaker 1: Don't you it's you? No, no, no, okay.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot to Georgia for a few years.

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Speaker 4: I went down there Originally, Cancer Treatment Centers of America

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Speaker 4: and now I'm back.

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Speaker 1: How's your how's your health?

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Speaker 2: It's good right now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yea monitoring always.

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Speaker 2: Once a year.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm to the point where it's once a year.

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Speaker 4: I go on and get checked the blood work and

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Speaker 1: How do you feel physically?

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Speaker 2: Pretty good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good days?

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Speaker 1: Not good days?

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Speaker 2: No, well, the day after leg day or the second

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Speaker 2: day after leg day.

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Speaker 4: I train every day for a train every day for what? No, wait,

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Speaker 4: train like lift? No?

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Speaker 1: I know for did I say that? And I tell

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Speaker 1: them my train? They're like, why are you training? And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, apocalypse No.

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Speaker 5: He but you act like you're training to be a

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Speaker 4: Well, actually I'm going for a look but longer, a

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Speaker 1: Was projecting right there.

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Speaker 5: I'm well, lifting is very important for our bone house,

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Speaker 5: its women.

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Speaker 4: It's and just yeah, I have kids and you'll you'll

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Speaker 4: up with them. So yeah, and I'm going to start

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Speaker 4: running with my fourteen year old. I used to be

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Speaker 4: a big time runner. I ran Boston Marathon.

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Speaker 2: Chicago Way.

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Speaker 4: I didn't qualify Bobby ran I was invited to run

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Speaker 1: I would never have qualified.

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Speaker 2: I'm wait, too slow. What was your time? I was

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Speaker 2: If you.

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Speaker 4: Go look at that year, I am the second to last,

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Speaker 4: only before my brother, who let me cross the line first.

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Speaker 4: Because they cut it off at six hours. I think

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Speaker 4: we're five hours and fifty nine minutes. I pulled my

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Speaker 4: it ban at mile six, so I'd have to stop

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Speaker 2: But I did finish.

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Speaker 1: Did you see them shutting down and you're just trying

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Speaker 2: They're like, keep going, keep going.

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Speaker 4: Because there was like news cruise when I crossed the

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Speaker 4: to do is talk to somebody when you've been running

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Speaker 4: for six hours.

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Speaker 1: You were a marathon runner.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I was never fast.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the story of my life.

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Speaker 4: Just keep going, just keep going. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: That's the end.

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Speaker 2: Ben up bad, always going on to make you. Hey,

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we'll have suggestions. Yeah, probably he would be the most.

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Speaker 4: I remember my first year was all about trying to survive,

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Speaker 4: Uh, talent nights I'd perform. I needed money for rent,

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yes I did, And that's how I got my start.

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Speaker 2: I was always terrified. Yeah, I was always ri Did

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you ever lose? Anybody else that ended up

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Speaker 1: How does somebody from Massachusetts, That's exactly what I was

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Speaker 2: I could walk away? Remember that one? No, you don't.

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Speaker 2: It's a song.

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Speaker 1: I know a song.

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Speaker 2: Break it to me gently, remember that.

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Speaker 1: No one, No, I think Amy's hybriding songs.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is so cool. And the Judge,

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Speaker 4: I started performing out in clubs when I was thirteen

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Speaker 2: My mother would drive me. I'd sleep through class. It

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Speaker 4: But anyways, my mom would drive me out to open

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Speaker 1: Did they not want to pursue it farther because they

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Speaker 4: And so my brothers had the same job since he

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Speaker 1: I My theory is there has to be a screw

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Speaker 2: Do you just in yourself or do you just have

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Speaker 1: It can be? But I don't think you can even

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Speaker 1: But I'm really insecure too. I think insecurity fuels me.

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Speaker 2: Right, I hear you.

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Speaker 4: I didn't mean that, and I didn't mean way she

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Speaker 4: just keeps going on and on in your head, even

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00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,960
Speaker 4: when you're standing in front of tens of thousands of people.

454
00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,440
Speaker 2: I remember playing on Texas Stadium.

455
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,960
Speaker 4: For the first time, and I stood there at the

456
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,639
Speaker 4: edge of the stage and people were like screaming and cheering.

457
00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,719
Speaker 4: It was so loud it like rumbled the stage, and

458
00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:06,879
Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I doing here?

459
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,480
Speaker 2: Like I don't belong here? Like did they? And none

460
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:11,960
Speaker 2: of these people realize.

461
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 1: That, and you can't let them out know that you're thinking.

462
00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,399
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, well I didn't.

463
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,639
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, I think that. I think that happens with

464
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot of artists though that when you, for me,

465
00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,920
Speaker 1: especially when I got to a point, you start to go, man,

466
00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't like, does this kind of crazy? I don't

467
00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,080
Speaker 1: know if I'm actually good enough, but I believe I

468
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,920
Speaker 1: at least believed I was good enough at some point.

469
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 4: I think there's a point of gratitude too, where the

470
00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,680
Speaker 4: gratitude kicks in. So if you go see my show now,

471
00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,920
Speaker 4: it isn't really hey look at me, I'm up here.

472
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,400
Speaker 4: It's like, oh my gosh, we're gonna have so much fun,

473
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 4: you know, and I do. We have a blast with

474
00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,440
Speaker 4: the audience.

475
00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,840
Speaker 1: But for you to move down here, uh huh and

476
00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,159
Speaker 1: want to be a singer and also have to have

477
00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,040
Speaker 1: a job to make money again, you didn't have the

478
00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,080
Speaker 1: benefit of having your bills paid for and still pursuing

479
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 1: this like there's a there's a small screw loose to

480
00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 1: think you could do that.

481
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 2: I think it was naive.

482
00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: It was that's a superpower.

483
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:08,000
Speaker 5: Though.

484
00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,400
Speaker 4: If I knew that everyone that I ran into in

485
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,920
Speaker 4: town was in town for the same reason, I probably

486
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 4: my insecurity would have kicked in and I'd be like, no, no, no,

487
00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,159
Speaker 4: I can't compete with all those people, right, But I

488
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 4: didn't know, so I was like, Oh, I have in

489
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 4: order to get a record deal, I gotta go to Nashville.

490
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,159
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm going to Nashville, me and fifty thousand

491
00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: other people.

492
00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 1: Did you get down and see other people and go,

493
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 1: oh wow, the competition is pretty tough.

494
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're talented. Oh yeah.

495
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 4: I'd go to these talent contests and I'd be like, oh,

496
00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,520
Speaker 4: I'll just put my name on the list.

497
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 2: Something to do.

498
00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: Did you ever almost go home?

499
00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,080
Speaker 2: No, because I loved to sing. I loved to perform.

500
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 4: So that's what would fuel me and keep me in

501
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 4: the room, was my chance to sing.

502
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 5: That record label story is still thinking about them that

503
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,720
Speaker 5: said you were ten pounds. If I was, would have

504
00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,160
Speaker 5: signed me like that, Like whenever you did get your

505
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 5: first hit, did you ever think, like, you know, having

506
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,400
Speaker 5: like a pretty woman moment with them?

507
00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 3: Of like big mistake, huge, Like I have to go

508
00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,879
Speaker 3: make music.

509
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:12,280
Speaker 5: Now because I I can'ce on thinking about how I mean,

510
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,879
Speaker 5: I know that's the reality for a lot of women

511
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 5: in the business pop country. We've heard a lot of people,

512
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 5: especially now that they're older, they're like, oh, yeah, when

513
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,679
Speaker 5: I was first starting out, I heard this from my

514
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 5: record label, this from my management team.

515
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 2: I wasn't to wear my hair this way. I had

516
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,359
Speaker 2: to wear these clothes. I had to.

517
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I mean, did you I don't know, did

518
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 3: you just like let it go or.

519
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,240
Speaker 2: It's thirty years later, I'm still talking about it.

520
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: I didn't let it go, or like you run into

521
00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 3: them like kind of just.

522
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,400
Speaker 1: You a feel like it's not happening now too.

523
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, I'm sure. I guess I just have

524
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 5: a little bit of hope that maybe we progress a

525
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 5: little bit. But you're right, we probably as much as

526
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,200
Speaker 5: I would like to think, the does still happen.

527
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,480
Speaker 4: Actually on my record there is I was talking to

528
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 4: an artist and she's like, man, I just you know,

529
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: I can't do this, I can't do that. I was

530
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 4: just Oh, she's like exhausted, and I said, whatever you do,

531
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 4: don't let him hide you're beautiful. And then we wrote

532
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 4: a song that's actually a song on the album.

533
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: I believe it's track three.

534
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there you go, you know everything, but yeah,

535
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 2: that's where that song came from, with someone being told by.

536
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,240
Speaker 4: Everyone else, no, this is what you need to do,

537
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 4: this is how you have to look, this is what

538
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: you should do, this is where you should be, this

539
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 4: is you know. And she's like, none of it's me,

540
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 4: you know what are they selling?

541
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 2: It's not me?

542
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, don't let them hide you're beautiful.

543
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: Was there a time when you got to town where

544
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 1: you had so much success that you started to feel

545
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: a bit bulletproof because you had you had a run

546
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: like a multi week it's like never been done before,

547
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: where it's like number one for Muti Week, number one

548
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 1: for multi Week, nombre from multi Week.

549
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing in when you I remember

550
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 4: Byron Gallamar telling me my producers saying, I was like,

551
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 4: oh man, it would be so great to have a

552
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: number one record, and he goes yeah, but then you

553
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 4: got to have another one, and so you were so

554
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 4: in the chase for the next one for me, and

555
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 4: then again you're insecure, right, so you were like, oh gosh,

556
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 4: I gotta have another one, or else I'm done or else.

557
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 4: What I remember Downtime came out and it peaked at

558
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: number eight. What I would do for a number eight

559
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 4: song right now? Not really, I mean, but it would

560
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 4: be such a thrill to have her number eight song,

561
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: right I'd be like, oh my gosh. But as soon

562
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 4: as that song maxed out at number eight, they're like, well,

563
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 4: she's done, she's done, she's over again.

564
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: That was like twenty years ago, but still.

565
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 4: At that point, you know, everyone was so disappointed, and

566
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: I felt like they were disappointed in me.

567
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,199
Speaker 2: I was like, I am a failure. I am you know.

568
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 4: So I don't know that there ever was a point

569
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,440
Speaker 4: where I felt bulletproof. Now.

570
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 2: It was always about working harder.

571
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: If you could do it again, or you could tell

572
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: you back then, like right when it was starting to hit,

573
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: like right before you get your first number one, you

574
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: have a deal. What advice would you give yourself? Then?

575
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: I always say this, don't sell out who you are

576
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 4: just to be successful.

577
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you did that?

578
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 2: I think there were moments, yes, where I.

579
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: Did that, and then I would look at pictures and

580
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 4: be like, oh boy, I remember that, you know, there

581
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: was a point where I was myself. Then we went

582
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 4: had some success and then all of a sudden the

583
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 4: people would flock and be like wear this, do that.

584
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: We had a photo shoot and I remember looking at

585
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: these photos. My hair was bone straight long down to

586
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 4: hear all these like coutore clothes, and I was like,

587
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 4: I don't know who that is. And they're like, oh,

588
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 4: but you look beautiful. I'm like, yeah, but I don't

589
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 4: know who she is. Like, I don't know who that is?

590
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: Who is that I can't I said, I don't go

591
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 4: to Kroger looking like this.

592
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: You know, people they would never see me look like that.

593
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,959
Speaker 4: You know, I can't sell them. Why would I represent

594
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: something that I'm not? Ooh, which that was then then

595
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: back then it was like, oh, you're being difficult. Oh

596
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 4: she's hard to work with. And it was really just

597
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: I can't pretend. I can't pretend to be something that

598
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 4: i'm not.

599
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 1: Were there a group of women that kind of had

600
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: each other's back? Did you have at all? Or we're

601
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: just so competitive?

602
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. I don't know that.

603
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 4: It was like backbiting competitive and I don't even know

604
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 4: if it's that way now. I think a lot of

605
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: social media creates those scenarios where it's like I see

606
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 4: all these girls and just I love them. Be course,

607
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 4: I'm a little older, so I'm gonna you know, they

608
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 4: don't see me.

609
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: I was like, I wanna get out of my way.

610
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: But I think at that point, again, I was just

611
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 4: running so hard for the end zone that I didn't

612
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 4: really I'm.

613
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: Always on the road.

614
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: I was always, you know, touring always, or in the

615
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: studio or whatever. I didn't have time to be like, hey,

616
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,479
Speaker 4: how's it going, And I was terrified, you know it

617
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 4: Actually okay, back to the insecurity. There was one one

618
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 4: award show I remember I shared a dressing room with

619
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 4: Trisha Yearwood, Martine McBride, faith Hill.

620
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: You would talk about beautiful women. Colley stand next to

621
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 2: faith Hill. I never will.

622
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 4: She's still stunning. And I had a curtained off section

623
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: in the back corner and I didn't come out. I

624
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 4: was just I did not feel worthy enough to be

625
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 4: in the room with those girls. And so they but

626
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: they read it probably this is just that, Oh she

627
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 4: thinks she's all that, and I wasn't all that.

628
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh my gosh, I'm hiding from

629
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: these beautiful talented girls.

630
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 4: So it wasn't it wasn't cutthroat or anything. It was

631
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 4: just keep your eye on your own on your own

632
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: game at that point.

633
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: When you decide that you're going to do a new

634
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: album or was it an album because it could have

635
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: just been a couple songs, and I kept growing like

636
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: what was this?

637
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 4: It turned out I started writing a lot with people

638
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 4: in town, and then someone's like, you should record this.

639
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 4: You should record this, this is a hit, you should

640
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,919
Speaker 4: record this. And then it just started to roll into

641
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 4: a full project because I was like, whoa, I don't

642
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 4: you know. I'm just here to write. I just love

643
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: to write, you know. I'm still out touring, always been touring.

644
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 4: And so then they were like, you should really put

645
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: this together as a as a record, and I was like,

646
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone who wants to hear a

647
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 4: record for me, and they're like, just do it, so

648
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 4: we did.

649
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: So have you put any expectations on yourself with this record? You?

650
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm asking you again, not anybody else like it? Or

651
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: has the expectation been met already by just creating it.

652
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 4: I would love to hear how people like yourself like

653
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: the record. You know, of course you're always so kind,

654
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 4: so you wouldn't be like, well, this sucks so not

655
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 4: to my face, but I'd love to hear that because

656
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 4: I wrote everything on the record, and it's never happened before.

657
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: I've never written every I've never been able to like

658
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 4: pour my entire guts into an album. And that's the

659
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: difference between now and then, or then and now or whatever.

660
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 4: Is a lot of stuff that I recorded was written

661
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 4: by other people and staff writers at certain places where

662
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: that were the great songwriters. Nowadays, the artists write most

663
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: of their records, and I was like, oh, can I

664
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 4: do that?

665
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: I can do that? This is great.

666
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 4: So this is the first time I've ever had a

667
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 4: write There's one song I didn't write, but for the

668
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: rest of the record, I wrote everything on there.

669
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: So this is way more vulnerable, I think than you've

670
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 1: ever been as far as a creator.

671
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 4: Probably. Yeah, there's a song on there. Yeah, there's a song.

672
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: I share this in the live show. It's called if

673
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: He Knew Jesus, And it came out of a conversation

674
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: that I had with somebody and they're like, oh, you know,

675
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 4: would you ever consider, you know, going out with so

676
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 4: and so and this. I was like, oh no, no, no, no,

677
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: they gotta love Jesus said, because I've been down that road.

678
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 4: And so I walked into the writing room and I

679
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 4: said I have an idea. I said, what if we

680
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 4: wrote and I'm gonna start crying. I said, I have

681
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 4: this idea of a song and it and it just

682
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 4: starts off, well, if he knew Jesus, there'd be no

683
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 4: raisin these babies alone. And so I still again started crying,

684
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 4: like I'm crying here, sorry, And.

685
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: The guys looked at me and they're like, oh man,

686
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a long day. But it wasn't.

687
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: But they knew that was a song. But that's what

688
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: they meant though, right, like see me a long day

689
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: because they're gonna write that song with you.

690
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: Well they're well, just because they're like, oh man, we

691
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 4: got to deal with her emotion, but we made it through.

692
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 2: We made it through.

693
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: And then there's a there's a verse in the I'm

694
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 4: sorry the bridge that's like.

695
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 2: Well, he might go to church know the words in

696
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: the Bible, but only if he knew the man or whatever.

697
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 4: And then one of the guys was like, Okay, this

698
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 4: is making me second, guess myself here.

699
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: So it was just he found salvation and you're writing.

700
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: Oh, that's my that is my hope. What is your

701
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 4: big What is my biggest hope for this project? And

702
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,919
Speaker 4: I'll be really, really honest is and it might be

703
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: too honest and you can.

704
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: Edit it out if you want.

705
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 4: Is to be relevant enough to share the gospel with

706
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 4: people behind the scenes.

707
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: You know my heart on that.

708
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: What do you mean behind the scenes.

709
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think because like a lot of

710
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 4: the new artists, I want to be a safe place

711
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 4: for them to go when they're like, oh my gosh,

712
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 4: how do I handle all this? Because they're inundated with

713
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: requests and demands and requirements and all this other stuff,

714
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 4: and it's like an opportunity to say, hold on a second,

715
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 4: you're okay, You're okay. I just did a show with

716
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 4: Carter Faith and I was like, here's my number. Things

717
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 4: are about to get crazy for you.

718
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: And if you need a safe space, please call me.

719
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: And that's what I want.

720
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 4: That's my heart's desire is to be a safe place

721
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: for people who are spinning around so fast within the

722
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 4: industry that they need to step away for a second.

723
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 4: You know, just realize who they who they really are

724
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 4: in the midst of it.

725
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: Why would we edit that out?

726
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I don't like to talk about.

727
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: But that's that's my heart because that's what happened with me.

728
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 4: I know the road that they're walking. I know that

729
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 4: the demands that are that are on them and the

730
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 4: expectation on an everyday basis. I know what it's like

731
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 4: to have things said that aren't necessarily accurate, and it's hurts.

732
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 4: It hurts, and so you start to get a hard heart,

733
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: and then you start to get you know, a little

734
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: bit feistier and a little bit and then before you

735
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 4: know it, you're you don't even know who you are anymore.

736
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: And so just when that understands what they're walking through

737
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 4: and can give them a safe place to just decompress

738
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 4: and be themselves, that's awesome.

739
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: That's my heart.

740
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Did CMT make being famous easier and harder?

741
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: In what way?

742
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: People knew who you were because of videos?

743
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Videos? No, I don't know the easier or harder or both.

744
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: But easier because they now knew who you were as

745
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: a face. For harder because now you had to deal

746
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: with the fame because there weren't really a lot of

747
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: until CMT or MTV. Sometimes you wouldn't know what an RS

748
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: look like.

749
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: Right, Hence the Christopher Cross you know syndrome that happened.

750
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 4: There was a big singer in a name Christopher Cross,

751
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,959
Speaker 4: and then someone said as soon as the video aspect

752
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 4: came out, you know, that's when he lost some traction.

753
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, that doesn't seem fair, but

754
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: it did. It did put a lot of expectation on

755
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 4: the way you carry yourself and the way you know

756
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: you you have to look and et cetera. It did

757
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: put all that added pressure on you. But also it

758
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 4: was good for you know, people recognizing you and familiarity

759
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: in the sense of getting shows and getting work.

760
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: Did you ever have like valets handing you music and

761
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: stuff all the time?

762
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Still they dropped stuff in my mail, in.

763
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: Your mailbox, I got your home yes, Oh no, I

764
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: don't like it.

765
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 5: I like.

766
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: The latest was the insect guy that came over and

767
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 4: he's like, hey, yeah, so here will you go check

768
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 4: out myself on this website.

769
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: Pest control like pest Control. Yes, the insect guy.

770
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: He's a singer too, sounds like right, But was he pest.

771
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 2: Controlling my house. Yes, and then he sprayed the house. Okay,

772
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: he was like, and don't forget listen to myself. I mean,

773
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.

774
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: They show up and then they realized like, okay, whoa,

775
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: this is Jody Messina's house.

776
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: Like maybe I should choot my shot.

777
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: But what can I do? I'm like, I can't do

778
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: anything for myself. I never I don't know.

779
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: That's not true. That's funny, but that's not true.

780
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: It's kind of true, right.

781
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so because you play these where tons

782
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: of people come you're you're so again. I made the

783
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: comment earlier, you're now TikTok relevant, which is hard, the

784
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: hardest thing to be, Like, you just have all these

785
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: different different avenues because fame is so fractured now, it

786
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: is more fractured than I've ever seen it. Somebody could

787
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: be famous to somebody and then the person next to

788
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: them has no idea who they are. Yet this person

789
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: is freaking out because this person that they follow on

790
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 1: tech talk And so I think you're you're now so

791
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: tucked strongly into these areas of like new versions of fame,

792
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: Like I see people freaking out about you on TikTok

793
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, dang, this is like a whole

794
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: different world of fame versus what the fame that you

795
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: have had for the past twenty twenty five, thirty years

796
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: or so.

797
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 2: You're right.

798
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 4: I love that that it's fractured because it used to be,

799
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, so many TV shows and everyone would watch

800
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 4: them and everyone either had new them or didn't you

801
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was like, it's not like

802
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: you know you now have you find your celebrity here,

803
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 4: you find your music there, or you find you know.

804
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 4: So that's a great way of describing that's so great.

805
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: But I love it in the sense of people are like, well,

806
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 4: we think your demographic is da da da da, and

807
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 4: then you come to and a lot of these people

808
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 4: don't come to the show. So my old thing is look.

809
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: At the first fifty rows. Yeah, I'm like, we got

810
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: six year olds.

811
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: With their moms and their grandmothers, so we're coming. So

812
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: I think with all those different social media platforms, we're

813
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: able to hit different demographics. And you know what, these

814
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 4: kids still love Bye Bye and they still love I'm

815
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: all Right and they are singing it, so L like,

816
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 4: it's crazy the way they find music now. They're saying

817
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 4: like deep cuts all the words. I'm like, I don't

818
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: even know the words.

819
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: So that's why you were being too harsh on yourself

820
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: when you said you can't even do things for you. You're

821
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: doing massive, great, wonderful things right now.

822
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 4: I think I live in a bubble, so like I

823
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 4: just post my little through my little dance, you know,

824
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 4: and I then I go bring my kids to school,

825
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 4: and that's true.

826
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: You know, I'm at the rink. I'm at the hockey

827
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: rink or whatever.

828
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: Kids play hockey.

829
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 2: Yes, so I see Dirk's Bentley quite a bit.

830
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Do you play against Dirk's kids or the same team?

831
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 4: Well his kids are younger son of younger, so but

832
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 4: they're you know, it's so funny.

833
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: One time I was like, are you at the rink?

834
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 4: He?

835
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: I texted him and he texted me back. He's like,

836
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: I'm always at the rink.

837
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get you. So do your kids play

838
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: hockey because they have fallen in love with it because

839
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: of Nashville or because you come from a hockey place

840
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: and you pass it down the road.

841
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 4: They discovered it on the room. They discovered it when

842
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: we lived in Georgia. They started with inline hockey, which.

843
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, like a roller blade?

844
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: Got it?

845
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 4: And then they wanted to play ice So when we

846
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 4: moved back here, they play ice hockey.

847
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Disc too cold for me? You think if I got

848
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,959
Speaker 1: to wear a coat to go watch a game, ain't

849
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: for me?

850
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 4: Well, sometimes you don't have to wear a coat, but sometimes,

851
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 4: you know, sometimes they keep those rinks.

852
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: Do you travel or you travel parent?

853
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: No, because I travel for work.

854
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: So my kids were not able to try out for

855
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 4: the travel teams.

856
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: That's probably better.

857
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and.

858
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna let them, like, hey, go to you know,

859
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 4: Detroit by yourself with people that I don't know and

860
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: all that stuff.

861
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: But well, I'm so happy that one you're here. You

862
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: have a box of gifts? Do you I mean, do

863
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: you want to give it to us now? Or do

864
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: you want to give to us after? I don't know

865
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: what it is.

866
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be on the high it would be

867
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: on the air.

868
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 5: Luck.

869
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: You could see my pants.

870
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: Know your pants are awesome.

871
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I wear happy pants.

872
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: I lead worship at a school and so there's eighteen

873
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 4: months to eighth grade kids that I lead worship with

874
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: and I always wear my happy pants for them mostly

875
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: the middle school who could care less?

876
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: But the little ones like my pants.

877
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: And we're like your little ones. We're we act like

878
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: it's our whole situation here.

879
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: Did you get to all your questions? Oh?

880
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: I could just for two hours?

881
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,919
Speaker 2: Oh I can. We could fire them. I'll tend words less.

882
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Did you ever, like way back in the day, talk

883
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: about doing Dancing with the Stars?

884
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: Oh my yes, yeah they never I wasn't ever.

885
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Did they not approach they approach you or no, they

886
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: never approached you about it?

887
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: No?

888
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: They I've got I went out there a few times

889
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 4: too so to support people, and they still never call.

890
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 4: See okay, I'd like to see maybe they saw my TikTok.

891
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: It hasn't been up long enough. I think I think

892
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: you would be excellent for the show. Oh I did

893
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: you do it now?

894
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, it would be fun.

895
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: Okay. I mean I know people, so I'll just send

896
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: out a text and be like hey, because they do

897
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: look for different areas, right, They look for somebody in

898
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: country music every other year. They do look for like

899
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: an athlete. And I'll just feel like, hey, keep joy

900
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: Ben seeing in mind. If you wouldn't mind me doing that,

901
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: go for it. I don't want to do that, and then.

902
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Go for it.

903
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: It'd be fun because if they came to you and

904
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: you said no, then I'd look bad. Then I'd have

905
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: to be like boycott Jody.

906
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: I don't even have a response.

907
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: Okay, the boycott thing.

908
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: I thought i'd have a quick comeback.

909
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 4: I needn't.

910
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: The album just has out this summer. I don't know

911
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: what that means any date yet, which when you just

912
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: want to wait?

913
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, Sarah, Sarah, what do you think?

914
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,919
Speaker 1: You don't have to say it now you can tell you.

915
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 2: Sarah's like the mastermind behind all the marketing.

916
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: I just heard way their close to confirmings. I don't

917
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: say yeah, okay, I heard in my ear.

918
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there is something in the works there.

919
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: Do you play any of the new shows live?

920
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: Now that it's out, We're going to do the whole song.

921
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: That's awesome, But people were so frustrated because I would

922
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 4: just do a little bit of the chorus and then

923
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: the hook and then would end it and they're no,

924
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:28,879
Speaker 4: they've never heard the whole thing.

925
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: Till you're a.

926
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Show Amy, any question for Jodie before she goes.

927
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, well your energy, Like, where does that come from?

928
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 5: Yeah?

929
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: How do you do it like gratitude?

930
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 5: I think, oh yeah, okay, so it's just pure like

931
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: like it's joy. It's not there's a happiness joy content,

932
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 5: Like would you describe yourself as content?

933
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 2: I somebody said, why is it taking ten years?

934
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: And I was like, well, I don't know. I've just

935
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 4: kind of been content. You know, I'm happy. So when

936
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: I say I'm happy to be here, I'm happy to

937
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 4: be here the Bobby Bones Show and happy to be here.

938
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: You know, well, there is just different energy about you.

939
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 5: Like sometimes people come in and they're happy and it

940
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 5: feels a little manufactured or just like they're putting it on,

941
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 5: and like you're just like I feel the energy.

942
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: So that's that's Jesus joy. That joy that comes from

943
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 4: within is not like, oh he makes me so happy.

944
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: Because he gave me a new car. I don't have

945
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: a new car. He bought it used, it's five years older.

946
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 4: But it isn't that. It's not happy. Happiness is depending

947
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 4: on your situation. It's joy where and perspective too. Just

948
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: grateful and grateful I get to sit here with you.

949
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's a gift that it really is. And

950
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 4: you know that I love you. And I see maybe once.

951
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: Every couple of years, and it's so this moment is awesome.

952
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: It's weird. Just do you say that, because you're right,

953
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: that's absolutely right. But I social media allows you to

954
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: feel like you're closer to somebody because we know each other.

955
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: But I see all this that you're doing, so I

956
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: don't I don't feel like it's been a couple of years.

957
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: But you're right. I think we've hugged each other. It's

958
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: been a couple of years. Yeah, but I do like

959
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: keep up so it doesn't feel like we're so disconnected.

960
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: And I also feel like I could just message you

961
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: and be like, hey.

962
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: What up. Yeah, yeah, I said, Bobby message.

963
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: That's not weird. That's because that's because we know each other. Well.

964
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to think.

965
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: I like to think so because there are moments where

966
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: I just reach out or I think when you announced,

967
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 4: when you guys made your announcement, I was like heng

968
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: on brother, where I was about to change my wife

969
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: getting pregnant. Yes, because let me tell you, there's a

970
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: part of your heart. You love your wife and you

971
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: think you know what.

972
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: Love feels like, but there's a part of your heart

973
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: that you don't even know exists until that child comes

974
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 2: and then you're like, where what is this? Where did

975
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: this come from?

976
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: You know?

977
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: And so I'm so excited for thank you because you're

978
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 2: such a good guy.

979
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: Well I appreciate you saying that. Thank you very much.

980
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: You're the best. We love having you in. We can't

981
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: wait for the album. And everybody check out Strain the

982
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: new song some Bridges. She's going to play it in

983
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: her live shit and you're again. I looked at your

984
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: tour schedule. You have so many shows, So go to

985
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: jodymasina dot com. Shows all the way up until October.

986
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, follow me on Socials.

987
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 5: You'll get to.

988
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: See my dance.

989
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: Jody Messina. Jody, great to see you. Thank you so much.

990
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Speaker 1: Everybody