1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley Eye Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 2: This is Bachelor Episode seven recap on the Almost Famous Podcast. 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: We have so much to talk about when it comes 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: to the highly anticipated episode where we had six incredible 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: women left with our amazing Bachelor. 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: Joey, Amazing Bachelor, love, and more amazing Bachelor. 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Some would say he isn't what they've been making headlines for, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: maybe saying he is amazing. But I would say this, 10 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: I think we know as much about Joey as we 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: know about any bachelor. Like we know what he likes 12 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: as a hobby, we know where he's from, we know 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: that he's good looking, we know that he cares. Like 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: we don't usually know that much about a bachelor, bachelor 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: if we're really honest, and I think we know as much. 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: Maybe that's all he's got. Maybe he's got some cool hobbies. 17 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: Maybe he's got some desire to find a partner. Uh, 18 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: maybe he has a desire to explore a little bit 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: with this partner. And honestly, like, if somebody's like been 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: explaining your life, that might be about all I got. 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 2: I got a few hobbies, I got a great wife, 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 2: I got a dog and I work like that's you 23 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: know what, Like that's about all you got. Anyways, he 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: I think he's killing it. So we were very anticipatory 25 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: about the the who would be there in the final four. 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: There was a little shocker to me, honestly, but we'll 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 2: talk about that later. To start, I got a DM 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: from an almost famous listener who asked us to talk 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: about something. Uh And I was unaware of this something 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: until the DM came in, So thank you for sending 31 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: that DM. You know who you are. And I don't 32 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: want to say your name on the on the podcast 33 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: because I did not get your permission to do that, 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: but you know who you are. The conversation is about 35 00:01:54,080 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: Britney Spears, and this is the headline. Britney Spears is 36 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: one of us. A Ben Smith fan. Now Ben Smith 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 2: was on a couple of seasons ago over the Bachelorette. 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: We don't hear a lot from him these days. But 39 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 2: here's the situation, Ashley, and you've got to help me 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: understand what's going on. Britney Spears, like reposted his picture 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: on her Instagram. 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Well it's Brittany, so it's kind of hard to figure 43 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: out what's going on with her. 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes. 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: So what she did was she posted a picture of Yeah, 46 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 3: she supposed a picture of Ben standing outside of a sauna, 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: like one of those portable saunas, and then Brittany said 48 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: in the caption, I want a hot sauna in my house, 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: and then there's the photo emoji and then she acts 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: Ben at Ben v Smith. Now there's lots of things 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: that could be going on here. The juiciest for us 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 3: us would be if Brittany took this photo of Ben 53 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: standing outside the sauna and somehow they have some personal relationship, 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 3: whether that's him coaching her physically or friendship or otherwise 55 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: fitness coaching. 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: By the way, yeah. 57 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: Well he's a fitness coach. He also is like a 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: lifestyle like like health coach. 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. So it could have been that, or it could 60 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 4: be like a lot less. 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: Juicy, and it could just be Brittany being like kind 62 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 3: of like Brittany randomly screenshotting a picture of a random 63 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: man outside of standing outside of a sauna and then 64 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: just she did that because she just wanted to tell 65 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 3: her audience that she also wants a hot sauna in 66 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: her house. 67 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 4: You be the judge. That's all we know. Does Brittany 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: fall I don't then we see it. Let me see 69 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 4: she follow I mean. 70 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: This situation is wild to me because it is it 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: is an unexpected bachelor person, right. Ben Smith was a 72 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: big name, but we just haven't heard from him, so 73 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 2: it's not like he's stayed in the headlines. He's kind 74 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: of gone off and did his own thing when it 75 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: comes to fitness and health after the show. 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: Doesn't follow him. 77 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: So she doesn't follow Ben Smith. Somehow she saw a 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 2: picture of Ben Smith or a saana. 79 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, she probably just looked up sauna, saw a hot 80 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: guy in front of a sauna, screenshot it and was like, 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 3: this feels nice because Brittany loves to just take random 82 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: pictures from the internet. She's always done this, Like I'm 83 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: scrolling through right now and here's just some you know, 84 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: floral landscapes, and like, look, look at this screenshot of 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 3: just little cupids. Like she probably just screenshot it, not 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: having any clue that this guy at one point was 87 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,679 Speaker 3: kind of famous. 88 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: So Brittany just likes to keep us guessing, is what 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: you're saying. Yeah, okay, uh, well that's that. That's all 90 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: we have. That's as much as we could find. We 91 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: did dig into this situation for everybody to try to 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: give a little more explanation. But I feel like we 93 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: gave his the best explanation that anybody can have right now, because. 94 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 4: We could just call then does anybody have his number? 95 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: I think what the best all we need right here 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: is if possible, if one of us could text Ben 97 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: Smith and ask for some clarity and we can read 98 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: that text online. 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 4: I'll just do it right now. 100 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, just as we're going through. 101 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: We're to let him know on ones and on Wednesday 102 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 4: we'll let you guys know. Yeah, Okay. 103 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: I felt weird dming him in the first place because 104 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: I'm sure his entire in like his mailbox must be 105 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: just nuts, and I didn't want to infringe on like 106 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: any privacy in case he was like, I. 107 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: Hope he has no idea why his picture was posted, Like, 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: I hope he's just like what he's going to say. 109 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: I hope that's the case. Well, sorry that we didn't 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 2: have more details in here. We did work for it. 111 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: We did reach out to Ben Smith. We will continue 112 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: to reach out to Ben Smith to get more details 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 2: on this situation. But thank you for for always listeners 114 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: bringing up situations that you want to hear us kind 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: of investigate and dive into We will do as best 116 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: we can. We promise you that. Okay, let's start with 117 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 2: episode seven of The Bachelor. There in Jasper, Canada, another 118 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: breathtakingly beautiful place. I am so excited to watch this 119 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: episode because it reminds me of my home in Evergreen, Colorado, 120 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: but it also is just such a gorgeous place to 121 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: fall in love, as they like to say it is. 122 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: There's elk, there's clear water, there are mountains and beauty 123 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 2: and fresh share. This episode for me is an exciting 124 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: one because, as we mentioned last week, there's six women left, 125 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: and we know all six women, and we like all 126 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 2: six women, and we don't know going into this episode 127 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: exactly who is gonna be going home. We had our predictions, Ashley, 128 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: we have the people that we think he has the 129 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: best connections with, but quite honestly, any two going home 130 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: this week was not only gonna be a little sad 131 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 2: to me because I like all of them, but also 132 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: at some level shocking, Yeah, oh yeah. 133 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: They're all gonna I think they're all gonna be like, 134 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: oh so that's the one he chose to do it. 135 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: They're all like it is a wild time in the 136 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: Bachelor world because for the first time in a long time, 137 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: I think, really the top eight we can say, hey, 138 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: we knew the top six, we fell in love with, 139 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: Top four were emotionally invested in. In the bottom two, 140 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: we're just gonna be really confused by because we don't 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: know who he's gonna choose and how this is going 142 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 2: to play out. 143 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm so excited about getting into this next chapter. 144 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: I feel like it's like almost like a whole new 145 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 3: season when you get to top four. 146 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: Can I remind everybody yea that they're halfway through filming 147 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 2: right now. Like I say that every year. 148 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: I know now they're halfway, so like that, that's how 149 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: much these girls are going to get more time with him. 150 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: That's why you see like all this. You'll never see 151 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: the complaints of one on one dates again because those 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: well everybody gets one on ones now. But I just 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: want to be clear. I say this every year, but 154 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: I think it's one of the most interesting parts. Even 155 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 2: when I was on the show was up until Hometowns. 156 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: That's halfway through filming. Now the rest of filming exists now, 157 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: So as much many episodes of you've seen seven episodes 158 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 2: has been filmed. Now we'll see as much time being 159 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 2: spent on the final four. 160 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: It's so fun. I love this time of year, and 161 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: I specifically love this time of year because Joey is 162 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: such a fad bachelor. So let's go through the dates 163 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 4: this week. There's gonna be two one on ones and 164 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 4: then a group date with four of them on there. 165 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: The first one on one goes to Daisy. It's all 166 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 3: about you know it's that was the first date. They 167 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 3: haven't had like such quality time since Is it still there? 168 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: How's everyone feeling? 169 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: And they had a really perfect date when it comes 170 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: to Jasper Canada. They ice skated, they went on horseback, 171 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: they had an outdoor hot tub, they had a cute 172 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: cozy dinner. It was all wonderful and their chemistry was 173 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: one still there. What was like the big topic to 174 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: discuss during this was that Daisy admitted she's not follow 175 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: She's she's not fallen in love with him yet, She's 176 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: not there. She likes him a lot, and I think 177 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: that was just real like that I was like, Okay, yeah, 178 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: this girl's just she's she's keeping her head on. She's 179 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: a little bit slower than some of the others, but 180 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 3: I just like love the way that she was just like, 181 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: this is my situation. 182 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: There's a difference too, when like somebody says that and 183 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: you get the sense that they're kind of questioning the relationship. 184 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 2: I think for what's happening that's different here is Daisy 185 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: is validating that she cares deeply about him and wants 186 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: to be there to pursue this in every other way, 187 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: and I'm with you. I I think it's weird almost 188 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 2: when it's too early on and they're like, I'm in 189 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: love with you. Yeah, I think that you might be 190 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 2: feeling certain ways like. 191 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 3: You have a massive crush, you know, but if you 192 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: exactly go on like one real date with somebody. 193 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a genuineness though to the Daisy Joey situation, 194 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: where it's like this is just authentic, and I think 195 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: they both understand the authenticity behind it. It's I don't 196 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: know if it scares. We keep getting clips of Joey 197 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: saying one of his biggest fears is that somebody will 198 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 2: leave him at the end, and it kind of feels 199 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: like they're leading up to something that I don't know 200 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 2: if it exists or not, but I think there's like 201 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: a trust and an authenticity and understanding. It feels like 202 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 2: between Daisy and Joey, and that might be where their 203 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 2: chemistry even lies, is that they just have such a 204 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 2: better understanding everybody else. There's not a question about what 205 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: their pursuits are, their desires are. It's a it's different 206 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: because they're just more real in front of each other totally. 207 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 3: And when she tells him this, he seems like a 208 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 3: little bit jarred by it. But I'd like to know. 209 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 3: I'd like to ask Joey, would you have said to 210 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 3: her like, I'm falling in love with you? 211 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh, I think I think Joey's pretty I think 212 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 2: he is. I think Joey is really into today'sy, and 213 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: he has been since the beginning. I don't know what 214 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: he would say when it comes emotionally, he might be 215 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: feeling very similar. Again, they haven't got a lot of time, 216 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: but this was a great date. The big storyline at 217 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 2: this point, though, comes in where Jen doesn't get the 218 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: one on one date she wants. I feel like this 219 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,959 Speaker 2: should have been a sign for Jen that this wasn't 220 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 2: going to work out at the end, But still kind 221 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 2: of shocking to me that she didn't get a one 222 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: on one date. I really wanted her to get this 223 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: week's date. 224 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 4: She seemed to more do for one than Kelsey. 225 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 2: When was the last time she had a one on one? Jen? 226 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 4: Jen? Like second week of dates? So week three, I 227 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 4: think it's been a long time. 228 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we just had a date with Kelsey two 229 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: weeks ago and it felt really great. And I think 230 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 3: he just wanted to hang out with Kelsey. He just 231 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: wanted the time. And I think with Jen it could 232 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: have been more useful, you know, because maybe it seemed 233 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 3: to have gone swung it one way or the other, 234 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 3: like more like more sturdy feeling and letting her go. 235 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: Perhaps it was well not to like jump a hat, 236 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: but like when he let her go, I was kind 237 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: of like sad that. 238 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 4: The two of them just walked out and like he 239 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 4: didn't like have like a. 240 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: Special moment with either of them, because I felt like 241 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 3: those two deserved it. 242 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 2: I will say that maybe isn't a critique of Joey 243 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: as much as it was. Maybe he couldn't even control it. 244 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: But at this point in time, I do think Rose 245 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 2: ceremonies are a little bit misplaced, especially this week with 246 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: the women that were there. It felt like all of 247 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 2: them could have gotten maybe a knock a door, a 248 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: knock at the door, or a pulled aside kind of 249 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: moment more than a rose ceremony. Yeah, they deserve that, 250 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 2: especially Kelsey t because we did get to see a 251 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: lot of her and it felt like the relationship was 252 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: going incredibly well. Honestly, but you know, jin like we 253 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: had to get to see a lot of gin and 254 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 2: I think we like, I mean, I think we would. 255 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: Really liked you see, I think we saw a good 256 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: bit of her, but just and I think that he 257 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: liked her the whole way through it. This is like 258 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,439 Speaker 3: I think both of them really Kelsey too, And. 259 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,119 Speaker 4: It's just so hard. It was a hard elimination. 260 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 3: So Daisy's date raps, she gets the rose. Here's one 261 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: thing my sister and I were discussing because I guess, 262 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: like we're just thinking about from our family's perspective, we. 263 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 4: Don't find it to be like a huge We we were. 264 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: Thinking about hometowns and like, I don't know if this 265 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: sounds bad, but like we wouldn't. 266 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 4: We don't find it to be a huge deal to 267 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 4: introduce somebody to our family because it's like a person, 268 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 4: and it's like a person you care about, and it's 269 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 4: like when you introduce somebody to your family, do you 270 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 4: think that it needs to be somebody that you're gonna 271 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 4: be with forever? M Like, I don't know. 272 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 3: We just felt like sometimes, like with the girls, it's 273 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: too big of a deal, Like there's so many people 274 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: use it as like like a front, like like, oh, 275 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, like it's a big deal, Like I 276 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 3: don't know if I'm there yet. 277 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, but let me just I don't. I think 278 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: you're I personally think you're spot on. There's not a 279 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: big deal. I just think the format of the show, 280 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: knowing that the next time they see their daughter could 281 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,479 Speaker 2: potentially be when she's going to be engaged or heartbroken, 282 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 2: puts a different weight to it. 283 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: I know. 284 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I mean, my I love my parents. I would introduce 285 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 2: them to a lot of people, Yeah, I wouldn't, you know, 286 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 2: maybe get them excited about some random back in the day. 287 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: But you know, anybody I was spending time with, I 288 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: wanted them to know and kind of I guess follow 289 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: my journey of dating. But if I you know, in 290 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: this situation, I do believe it's different because of the 291 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: Association that at the end of this my daughter could 292 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: be engaged and this is the one and only time 293 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 2: I'm meeting this guy, and what do I say? What 294 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: do I do in this moment? It is I've talked 295 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: to Joey about this. It is still to this day 296 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: one of the most like stressful and that my life 297 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: obviously has been pretty good. This has been one of 298 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: the most stressful weeks of my life. Hometowns it was 299 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: I was sick to my stomach. 300 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's I understand it totally from the Leeds point 301 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 3: of view, Like there's so much pressure and like, holy shit, 302 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: am I leading this whole family on? But like if 303 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 3: you're like it was one of the cast members and 304 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: you're one of the four the whole like, but there's 305 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: other people going on and like ah, Like I'm just 306 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 3: be like yeah, but like let's bring it on. This 307 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: is gonna be so fun. 308 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you have to have fun with it. Yeah, 309 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: I think you just have to Like I think you 310 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: just have to have fun with it. I think you 311 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: have to have the the energy to just have fun 312 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 2: with it. I don't think you need to put more 313 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: pressure on it than it's already going to be there. Yeah, 314 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: and it's cool that your face. I mean, for me, 315 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: it was cool that my family was going to be 316 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 2: a part. Now I never had a hometown on Caitlyn season, 317 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: but it was cool that my family was going to 318 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: be a part of this experience and also get to 319 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: meet Caitlin at the time, Like that was exciting for me, 320 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: and that they would see all these producers that I'd 321 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: spent months with at this point and like there's so 322 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: much excitement too. Yeah, but I do I mean, could 323 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 2: we say this, Ashley, Like every family has their own 324 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: little dance. 325 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 4: They're all different. 326 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 2: So is it maybe that all these women have such 327 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 2: close ties to their family that they're like, I know 328 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: they care about me so much that this is to 329 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 2: ultimately be really hard on them. And I know that 330 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: they're not going to have fun with this. Like maybe 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: all of them kind of have the same family. 332 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 3: It's just different family vibes, I guess, because like I 333 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: know that if I brought like the bachelor home, my 334 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 3: mom would like be like peeing her pants, Like there's 335 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: nothing more exciting in this world than like that happening 336 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 3: to my mom. Like back in the day, Yeah, we 337 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: definitely had like a hometown date and she was like, 338 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 3: oh my god, my mom ate up our like quote 339 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: hometown date when Jared came over for the first time. Yeah, yeah, 340 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: I think I dropped somebody off at the airport. I 341 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 3: was like in the basement or something, and my mom 342 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: like sat down with Jared and she was like, so 343 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: do you think that like maybe down the road, Like, 344 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: my mom loves this stuff. So I just think of 345 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: it too personally from like my background, I. 346 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: Think, yeah, there's emotion involved. 347 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 4: My dad would be like, why would you want to 348 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 4: be with her? Do you know how much she is 349 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: to handle? To save yourself run now? 350 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, see he's a smart man. See, there's just different 351 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: emotions dynamics. I think all of these women have already 352 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 2: told us stories about why their families matter too. I 353 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: think that it's a unique dynamic that we don't always hear. Also, 354 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: all of the women that are left have told us 355 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: reasons why their family are either very connected or maybe 356 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: a little disconnected. Another thing I've appreciated about this season 357 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: is the insight into kind of behind the scenes of 358 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 2: everybody's life, which I think is very valuable now going 359 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 2: into hometowns. But there is one person that doesn't feel 360 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: like they're gonna make it to hometowns. That's Maria. Maria 361 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: has I'm not going to say a breakdown. I think 362 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: that's what she called her what she was having. I 363 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 2: think she is really in it and has felt all 364 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 2: sorts of emotions throughout this process and has a had 365 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: a roller coaster ride through this season. Did you think 366 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 2: she was going to be going home on her own? Accord? 367 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: Ashley, how do you solve a problem like Marie. I've 368 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 3: just had to put that somewhere in any of these recaps. 369 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 3: Please tell me that you know that's from the sound 370 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: of music. 371 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 2: No, I had no clue. 372 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: Then are you serious? 373 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 2: And that sounded good though? 374 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 4: Wow? Just a classic anyway, you guys know that. 375 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: Like, even though my friend Sydney has obviously an issue 376 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 3: with Maria, I have not had an issue with what 377 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 3: I've seen from Maria on TV, and I find her 378 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: to have a great personality for television. And I think 379 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: this was the one moment where I was like, mmm, girl, 380 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: this was in the past couple of weeks, a moment 381 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: where I was like, she's fishing here, she is just fishing. 382 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 3: She needs, so, she wants, so, she wants so much validation, 383 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 3: but I don't think she needs it. I think she's 384 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: confident in where they sit. They sit, but she wanted 385 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: him to basically say, like, you're getting a hometown. I 386 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 3: can't wait to meet your family. I can't I see 387 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 3: you at the end, Like she wanted so much of that, 388 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: and then her plan totally backfires with him and she's like, 389 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: I think I have to leave. I think this process 390 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 3: is for me. And then he goes, so are you leaving? 391 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 3: And then she's like yeah, and then she gets up 392 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: goes to the other room, and I was like, I 393 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: don't know how they're going to rebound from this moment. 394 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: And then when she sits back down, this was one 395 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: of the most attractive scenes with Joey Again. I was like, 396 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: this dude just kills kills this lead role. He has 397 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 3: such a good job because he is like standing his ground, 398 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: He's not feeding into what I think was kind of 399 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: like a bullshit moment, and he is like still listening 400 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 3: and understanding and being like gentle with her feelings during it. 401 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: I just thought it was a great moment. I don't 402 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: even remember what the heck he said, but like basically 403 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: he was like, you want the validation or you're gonna leave. Well, 404 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: it's like I'm in this position right now where like 405 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm I'm here. I could give you 406 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 3: the opportunity to do it, but you're the one that 407 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 3: wants to leave. So basically, he's saying like she was 408 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: being selfish in the moment because there's nothing else he 409 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: can do to help her here except for, you know, 410 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 3: give her a rose, which he probably was gonna do. 411 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: I see where she's coming from. I do. She wants 412 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: more attention than she's getting, but. 413 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: She's getting a lot of attention. 414 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: I feel, yeah, but you I think this is a 415 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 2: marker of how where she feels like her relationship is 416 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 2: compared to some of the other women. I don't think 417 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: she's as confident in their relationship as she is around 418 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 2: seeing like the kelsey A's and the Daisies. Now, I 419 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: think she's questioning exactly where am I at? And she 420 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 2: cares about him, and so she's saying, how do I 421 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: stand out here? Like how do I actually ask him 422 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: where we're at? Compared to everybody else? Because it is 423 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: it's an emotional roller coaster, like it is really hard 424 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: to feel good about where you're at, especially when you 425 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: care deeply about the lead. Dude, did you go about 426 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: it in the right way? Ah? No, she probably could 427 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 2: have just said it and ask them. But this is 428 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 2: maybe who she is, Like she is maybe a little 429 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: bit more like dramatic, and she does say things sometimes 430 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 2: that she maybe possibly regrets and looks back on. But 431 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 2: what did she get out of it? Well, she got 432 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: a rose, and she got a kiss, and she got 433 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: this cute little flirty moment where they're like hugging each other, 434 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: and I think it connects them in a way that 435 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: the day she needed. 436 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: It was a connecting moment for sure, because it didn't 437 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: work a fight and they mended the fight. 438 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: I mean, how many times do you say something you 439 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: don't mean, or you react in a way you don't 440 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 2: want to react, and you have to go back and 441 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: be like I'm sorry, Like I overreacted there. I made 442 00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 2: that way more dramatic than I wanted it to. That 443 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: all kind of blew up in my face. Like that happens, right, 444 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 2: doesn't usually happen on national television. 445 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: What about when she said like, I'm not even going 446 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 3: to kiss you and then he was like, what, You're 447 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: not even gonna kiss me and then she like goes 448 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: right in for it. 449 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: Well, she's like and I kind of like that moment. 450 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: I did too, and he goes, You're all over the place. 451 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 4: It was just so real, and I did love the moment. 452 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 4: It was weird. I still I stand by the fact 453 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: that I think that she was totally fishing one of 454 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 4: her answer there and that she wanted to eliminate girls 455 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 4: right there. 456 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: But definitely, but like, but the moment was really compelling 457 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: and just one of those again like last week their day. 458 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: It felt like, No, it felt like not a TV moment. 459 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. I mean, she said, I'm not going 460 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: to kiss you because I saw you kissing other women. 461 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: You need to learn your lesson. And I'm like, that's 462 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: fair and it's funny and it's cute and it's flirtatious. 463 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: And then she goes in and kisses him anyways, and 464 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm like this, this is this is playful and this 465 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: is fun and and and I see the two of 466 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: them together. 467 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: But it totally spooked him. He's like forever weary of her. 468 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 2: Now sure, I I'm sure he's questioning where she stands 469 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: at this point. And I don't know if hometowns is 470 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: necessarily gonna help that, because he's probably gonna get questions 471 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: about where does Maria stand with everybody else, and she's 472 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: gonna have to hear him say, like, I have feelings 473 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 2: for a lot of people and I've got to have 474 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 2: to figure this out in the end, and that's not 475 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: going to help the situation. But it is probably out 476 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 2: of the top three now because I had Kelsey t 477 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: up there and obviously she's going home if we have, 478 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: you know, I think for me it's Daisy and Kelsey, 479 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: A and Maria. It definitely is the one relationship that 480 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: is the most fragile and also the one that has 481 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: a lot of similarities to the others and terms of 482 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 2: connection and comfort. I will say I think Maria's relationship 483 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 2: with Joey has had the most obstacles that they've been 484 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: able to get over, and not obstacles in the terms 485 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,119 Speaker 2: of like relationships ending obstacles like hey, there's these rumors 486 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: about you dating somebody else back home and all this stuff. 487 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: It's obstacles with other women obstacles and with emotion obstacles 488 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: and miscommunication all those things that I do think they 489 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 2: have some a strong foundation. 490 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: I feel like, don't put her against like Daisy and Kelsey, 491 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 3: but I do feel like Rachel has lost a little esteem. 492 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 2: We just sere this week much and we haven't seen well, 493 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 2: I know, we just recently saw like a very good 494 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: one on one with her and some flirtatious moments. But 495 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 2: even that one on one date, we said, hey, felt 496 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,400 Speaker 2: like it was a little bit more disconnected than their 497 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: even first you know, or their their yeah wedding date moment. 498 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: And it does feel I think in my mind like 499 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 2: the top three is very clear to me at this 500 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 2: point in time. Okay, well, we do have a group day. Actually, 501 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 2: there's not a lot to talk about on this group 502 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: day other than the fact that can I say, for 503 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, I've agreed with 504 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: you on something that you stick by, and that is 505 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: that you don't like yeah, competition dates, and I've always 506 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 2: said I like them. I think they're fun. I think 507 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: when it gets down to the four people on a 508 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: competition date, it mostly feels like a waste of time. 509 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 2: It felt awkward, it felt like it was unnecessary. Their 510 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 2: relationships have moved way past How can I impress you 511 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 2: doing this random obstacle that I've never done before, which. 512 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: I thought Maria was really funny. She's like, this is 513 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 3: not my scene and I am not really putting effort 514 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 3: into this. 515 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it just feels like we've moved past it, right, 516 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: and maybe they just needed this day to kind of 517 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: fill space. And it was fun to watch. I enjoyed 518 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: the activity, and I enjoyed seeing all these things done. 519 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: I just felt like, as a date, it felt awkward 520 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: to me, Uh, a little little cringey, even at moments 521 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: where it's like this, why are they cutting wood for 522 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 2: this guy? Like at this like at this point, this 523 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: is done? 524 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, gotcha? 525 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: So what came out of that? No group date rows? 526 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: Obviously we had the Maria conversation. 527 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 4: The group date Rose was definitely a good idea though. 528 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 3: Great idea, the whole moment with Maria, and then like 529 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: I think he really needed time to think about the macro. 530 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: Yes, so not a lot gets brought up there. 531 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 532 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: So then we have the kelsey a date. Kelsey a date, 533 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: uh is similar to Daisy's date, you know, comparatively, it 534 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: feels very similar there. Yes they really like each other, 535 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: Yes they're very attracted to each other. Yes they get 536 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 2: along great, They're both in this together. I mean, the 537 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: depth of their relationship I think at this point really 538 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: now needs to be stepped up after hometown, Like we're 539 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: ready for Kelsey A and Daisy to go to hometowns. 540 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 3: I'm really excited about Kelsey's hometown because her dad. We 541 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: hear the stories of her dad, how emotional she gets 542 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: talking about him, and he just sounds like a sweet man. 543 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: And then at the scenes for the next episode you 544 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 3: get a couple glimpses of him, and I'm like, this 545 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: is a good daddy. 546 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: I like this. I like this man. 547 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's you know what I'm saying. Though, 548 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: it just feels like the only way we're going to 549 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: get progress in their relationships is to now separate everybody 550 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: because they're so far along. I mean, those two are 551 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 2: are two of the strongest, top two in recent memory 552 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 2: for me. 553 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. 554 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: So the cocktail party gets canceled not a shock here. 555 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: It happens a lot of seasons. 556 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 4: Yeah it does. But like. 557 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: That's the only weird thing that happened. And I cannot 558 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: claim that that canceling the cocktail party was Joey's idea. 559 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: I'll tell you how this usually works out. Usually at 560 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 2: this point in time, you are so tired of cocktail parties. 561 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: Dude, this guy was so tired. 562 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 3: You could tell in this episode he was like, Oh 563 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 3: my gosh, I'm just sketching over it. 564 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're over it. So as a lead, most leads 565 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: I talk to and remembering back on my time, if 566 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: everybody wants a little insight is most leads at this 567 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: point are over the whole thing. They're done with the dates, 568 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: they're done with the cocktail parties. All they want to 569 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: do is spend time with the people that are left 570 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: and do it in a way that isn't so kind 571 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: of like formal. Right, coming up, you're gonna have some hometowns. 572 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 2: You're gonna have overnights, which are super fun because you 573 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: get cameras away from you, including the lead for the 574 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: first time in months. Then then you're down to two 575 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: and at that point everything changes and you're in a 576 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 2: whole different mind headspace. So you're kind of done with 577 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 2: the bachelor deal, the bachelorette deal. Cocktail parties aren't fund 578 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: to you anymore. You don't want to like around to 579 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: all these women that you know so well, and it 580 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: feels weird when five of them are sitting in a 581 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: room alone, and there's always the chance that drama can arise, 582 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,719 Speaker 2: And so the producers will come in and they'll say, hey, 583 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: what do you want to do about tonight? And they'll say, 584 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 2: we'll give you two options. 585 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 4: You have the cocktail party here, you don't. 586 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have the cocktail party and you have to 587 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: leave in thirty minutes, or you don't, and we can 588 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: do a rose ceremony in thirty minutes and you'll be 589 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: back home by eight thirty tonight. 590 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 4: And you know, delightful. 591 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 2: There's a game on. You know, this is during football season, 592 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: so you're like, you get tuned into the game and 593 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: you're like, I know exactly what I want to do, Like, 594 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 2: I am so over this thing. Let's just do the 595 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 2: rose ceremony. And so you know, if there's questions, maybe 596 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: still and there's big conversations that need to be had, 597 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 2: sure you might have a cocktail party. For the most part, 598 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: you are so excited when they give you the like 599 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: the offer to just cancel it. 600 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 3: But then how do you feel in this situation? Then 601 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: he obviously did have to have a conversation with Maria. 602 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know, I don't know. How this played out. 603 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 2: I would imagine this is what happened in Joey's head. 604 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,239 Speaker 2: He goes, Hey, I just want to have a ROW 605 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: ceremony and the show goes awesome, that means an early 606 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: dinner for us, and he goes, but the only thing 607 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: is I need to talk to Maria. And they say, well, 608 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: just do it at their OW ceremony goes that's a 609 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 2: fine deal. Like, yeah, this may not make sense on 610 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: the message and the girls may not like this move, 611 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 2: but like, but one hundred percent, this is what I'm 612 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: going to do. It saves me three hours tonight. 613 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 3: And what it's also means to me is that, like 614 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: he just knew that, like if Maria gave him the 615 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: right answer, that she was definitely far and beyond his 616 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: feelings for Jen and Kelsey. So it was like it 617 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: wasn't going to like they couldn't win him over. 618 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 2: I think at that point, yeah, he knew what he 619 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: was going to do, but he needed he needed some clarity, 620 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: and so he took like the best audibled route to 621 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: having as little amount of obligation as he could that 622 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: evening and getting out of there in time for a 623 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 2: good and a football game. I'm guaranteeing it. I mean, 624 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm serious, and that's fine. I like for me that 625 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 2: doesn't It's very understandable, and I think every fan should 626 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: understand where he's coming from in this is that the 627 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 2: most the more time I can get just to chill 628 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 2: right now, the better for everybody and the better for 629 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: me personally. And I'm gonna find ways to do that. 630 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 2: You're kind of always looking now for ways to do that, 631 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: and so yeah, the messaging was weird, and I can 632 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 2: see where some of the women were a little thrown 633 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 2: off by it, but it's just the way it had 634 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: to be done and you're gonna have to get over it, 635 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: and I guarantee it when it comes to them getting 636 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: in the roses. I think Rachel was the one that 637 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 2: really thrown off by it. She was fine, She was like, 638 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,959 Speaker 2: I don't care now, it's fine. So Marie and him 639 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: kind of get pulled aside. They have a little conversation. 640 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 3: It's like the same conversation they have a little chiller 641 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: from the night before, and she's like, I'm rattled by 642 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 3: the other girls. And then he's like, okay, well, I 643 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: just want to let you know that I do really 644 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: like you. 645 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like do you want to be here? 646 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 3: Not? 647 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, she says yes, and he's like, all right, let's 648 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 2: go back in there, let's do this thing. And so 649 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: kelsey T shocker elimination for me. I really thought she 650 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: was going to be around. I thought she was. She 651 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: was moving her way up until the top, maybe even 652 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 2: like kind of close to too pushing to a little 653 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 2: bit dude. Yeah. And then Jen Jin goes home as well, 654 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 2: not as much of a shaker there. Kind of the 655 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: whole episode kind of leaned into that moment. Yeah, writing 656 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 2: was on the wall. I will miss miss kelsey T. 657 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: I do feel like she you know, we keep saying it, 658 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 2: like I just I want to see more of her. 659 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: I guess I liked her personality, I liked who she was. 660 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: I thought she was great for Joey. But at the 661 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm not that shocked because kelsey 662 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 2: A and Daisy are still there, and for me, as 663 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: long as they're still there, everybody else right now is 664 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 2: just kind of like around. If that makes sense. 665 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 3: Well, this is my plea to the Bachelor producers who 666 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 3: aren't I think planning paradise, but I think this is 667 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: such an unfortunate season for them not to be planning Paradise, 668 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: because so this is the group of girls that like, 669 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 3: we actually care about seeing again. 670 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: I agree with you, Ashley. 671 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: This is like he was like, guys, look at the ratings, 672 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 3: look at these girls following counts. 673 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: People are gonna watch this Paradise. You guys got to 674 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 4: fit it in. 675 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean maybe they come up with something different. 676 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: Maybe they're yeah. 677 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 4: Do you let the Mansion do something? It doesn't have 678 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 4: to be like this big travel show. 679 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: No. 680 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 2: It just feels like for years we were kind of like, hey, 681 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 2: are we excited about Paradise. Sure, because it's always paradise 682 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: and it's fun to watch, but we aren't that excited 683 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: about much here other than the fact that it's on 684 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: TV and it kind of gets us back in the groove. 685 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: Now I'm sitting here at the end of the Joey's 686 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: season and also at some levels Charity season again and 687 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 2: going there's a lot of people I want to see 688 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 2: back on that beach. 689 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: I think they could have turned around. I think it's 690 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,919 Speaker 4: gonna happen somehow. All right, good. 691 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: I want my buddy Wells to have a job. 692 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: So there's that one too. There's that aspect all right, 693 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 3: so see to the next episode. Like I said, really 694 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: like Kelsey's dad. Thus far, it seems like the Rachel's 695 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 3: parents are going to be the ones that give us 696 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: the drama here and a little bit with Maria's dad, 697 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: but Rachel's parents, Yeah, I don't know. 698 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: It seems very cheerful. 699 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: I don't even want to judge off of this because 700 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: every time it looks so dramatic, and it never is 701 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: as dramatic as they make it slook. And honestly, when 702 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 2: it comes to hometown, you're JoJo's. Yeah, unless you're at 703 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 2: JoJo's and you're like, goodness, gracious, I don't belong here 704 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: like this, they do not want me around, you know, 705 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: I think all in it's hard for me to criticize 706 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 2: families who are protective of any of their sons or 707 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: daughters in hometowns. Hometowns for me, I will watch with 708 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 2: one hand over my eyes because it's so hard for me, 709 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 2: Like I just I have these memories of it, and 710 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 2: I have these memories of looking dads in the eyes 711 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 2: and being like, hey, if it comes down to this moment, 712 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 2: how do you feel about it, And being like this 713 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: is such a big moment for you and you have 714 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 2: some you know, dork walking through your front door and 715 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 2: he's asking you these questions and You're like this, the 716 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: whole thing feels stupid to me. And this whole thing 717 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 2: is not what I ever dreamed of for my daughter, 718 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 2: and this whole thing is messed up. And I'm like, 719 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 2: I get it, like I totally understand, but I have 720 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 2: to do this and you have to do this too, 721 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 2: and this sucks, and I just I love hometowns for 722 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 2: certain reasons. I hate hometowns because I know it's so 723 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 2: uncomfortable for the lead and for these families. 724 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 4: I love hometowns. 725 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure you do. You know, Yeah, it 726 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 2: makes me feel all icky inside. Yeah, I just remember 727 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: I remember those feelings of like having massive like anxiety 728 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: pulling up to the house and walking through the front 729 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: door and being like, hey, yeah here, I am Like 730 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 2: how many girls you date right now? Ben Man? Multiple? Sorry, 731 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: your daughter is great though. Anyways, it's it's hard, and 732 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: it's it's hard for everybody involved. So hometowns is next week. 733 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: We're down to four, Ashley. I gave you my top three. 734 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,439 Speaker 2: I'm assuming your top three is the same. But who 735 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: do you believe who do you believe has the most 736 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 2: encouraging Like, is there anybody in this group right now 737 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 2: that their hometown is gonna sway? Joey's opinion, No, no, no. 738 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 2: I think Rachel goes home next week, which is unfortunately 739 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 2: we love Rachel again. I don't know what we're gonna 740 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: see her again, but it's she was such a good 741 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: person on the show. I think Rachel goes home and 742 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 2: it's Maria, Daisy and Kelsey onto overnights. That's my opinion. 743 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: I will be shocked if that changes. 744 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I think that's what makes the most sense 745 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 4: right now. Okay, so I'll stick with you on that. 746 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, we'll be back next week breaking down another episode 747 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 2: of The Bachelor. Also almost good Advice. We have some 748 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: interviews now coming up with some past contestants also some 749 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: contestants that are currently on the season. We are kind 750 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 2: of working into that time of the year where we're 751 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,240 Speaker 2: going to really start diving into interviews with people from 752 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: this season to understand who they are, hear their side 753 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 2: of the story, and it's an exciting time to be 754 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 2: the almost famous podcast. It is. We have a lot 755 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 2: of cool things coming up, So thank you for listening. 756 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 2: We'll be back next time, but until then, I've been Ben, 757 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: I've been Ashley. 758 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,880 Speaker 4: Send us your problems for almost good advice. 759 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 2: Bye. 760 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 761 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts