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Speaker 2: What is going on everybody? How are we doing? Probably

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Speaker 2: not as good as Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell and the Detroit Lions win again, because that's

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Speaker 2: all they do. Baby, doesn't matter who's playing defense. Campbell,

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, what a performance. Dan goes for

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Speaker 2: it when he because that's what he does. It works

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Speaker 2: four or five on fourth down. We will dive into

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Speaker 2: that game. Jordan Love heat it up in the second half,

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Speaker 2: but a little too little, too late after the first

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Speaker 2: half of that game where they only scored seven points,

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Speaker 2: but massive win for the Lions and basically and Green

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Speaker 2: a wild card team now, so we'll dive into that.

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Speaker 2: Bill Belichick has interviewed with North Carolina North Carolina, you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously not the Carolina Panthers, the University of North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I watched Hard Knocks today. They do an nd season

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Speaker 2: engraving your name. I think you can engrave Dan Campbell's

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Speaker 2: I thought tonight it was the right move. You're missing

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell is a tough guy, and if we just

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Speaker 2: Let's get into William Belichick, who who made some made

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00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: some news today. He has interviewed with the North Carolina

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 2: I think they basically had to drag his old ass out.

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00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: He like refused to resign. It was kind of ugly,

483
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: but it's like, Mack, you kind of suck. It is

484
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: what it is. Uh, but it's over. And they interviewed Belichick,

485
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 2: and I've gotten a couple of texts tonight like do

486
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 2: you think he would No, he wouldn't do this would

487
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 2: hee The analogy I would use is any human being

488
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: that's that's listening to this, that might be in a relationship, married,

489
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: you know, dating someone when you are single and you

490
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: want to get someone to notice you, or just a

491
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 2: general not even like you're just trying to date people.

492
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: It is amazing what happens when in the social media era,

493
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: like you post a picture out with someone cute, throw

494
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 2: it on that story and watch those dms kind open up.

495
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: Back in the day before social media is like walk

496
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 2: into a party with a girl that you want to

497
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 2: get with and bring someone with you. Play a little

498
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: human psychology. I'll promise you this it works well. What

499
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,479
Speaker 2: does Belichick need to show that people want him for?

500
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: As much as I think like it's a lock he's

501
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 2: going to get a job, it isn't. He's seventy two,

502
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: seventy three years old, and while he's done a good

503
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 2: job of done everything humanly possible to change his image,

504
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: part of his image at the end of the run

505
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: in New England won he was an atrocious general manager

506
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: and he was like one of the most giant curmudgeons

507
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: in the history of the world. Just an angry little

508
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: health not a fun guy to be around, which never

509
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: mattered when they were winning all the time. When you

510
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 2: start losing, it's like no one wants to be around you,

511
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: And I do think you need to change that perception.

512
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: So if you want to get her to notice you

513
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: walk in with an eight and a half, I bet

514
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: you would. And while this is not the NFL, he

515
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: can't interview with an NFL team right now, and there

516
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: aren't any college openings, but I think this is a

517
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: pretty strategic play. Now, if you came back, like, do

518
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 2: you think he's actually interested in this? I would be

519
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 2: shocked if you went to college now if it was

520
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: the equivalent of like you know, for him, I couldn't

521
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: see him coaching in this South, like I don't feel

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00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: Belichick in the SEC, but like Wood, he coach at

523
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Ohio State or Michigan or Notre Dame like those type

524
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: programs feel a lot like Bill Belichick, kind of Northeast

525
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: presidential and regal like even though Belichick wears like shitty clothes.

526
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, I'd be stunned if

527
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 2: you went to North Carolina. I would. But as listen,

528
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: anytime that you don't have much going on of things

529
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: that you want going on. It never hurts to listen.

530
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: How many people, whether you own a business, whether you

531
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: work for someone who you know is a deal maker,

532
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: do you just see them like, why'd you talk to

533
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 2: that guy? It's like, well, it never hurts to listen.

534
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: It's like, we wouldn't do business with that guy. Well, yeah,

535
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: it's like why wouldn't he invited me to lunch? Why

536
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't I take lunch? See what he has to say.

537
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll even gain some information. So pat Fordy said

538
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: that he's interested in college. I personally think it's more

539
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: just showing, like you know, Belichick's Belichick's being sought after

540
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 2: by somebody, and that just gets like NFL owners. I

541
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: also think it puts a little pressure on them, like

542
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: you want me, Like I got options. I think the fastest,

543
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: you know, way to kind of generate some buzz if

544
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 2: you're Belichick is to let people know people want you.

545
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 2: Because last year what happened, there was only one team

546
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: interested in him, and that was Atlanta, and it turns

547
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: out they didn't hire him because you know, the front

548
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: office didn't want him to basically, you know, whack up

549
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: all them, because that's what Belichick would have wanted them

550
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: all fired, and so they fought him off a lot

551
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: like what happened with Kevin Warren. Story broke today Jim

552
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 2: Harbaugh was very interested in the Chicago Bears job. Well,

553
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: who knicks that immediately? Kevin Warren? Well, why would Kevin

554
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: Warren nix that immediately? Because if mccaskey's are like, let's

555
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: talk to Jim Harball, and then they realized, let's just

556
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: hire Jim Harball, what would Jim Harball want Kevin Warren fired?

557
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 2: Its just classic job preservation. Everyone's trying to survive, whether

558
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: you have a job that pays you eighty grand or

559
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 2: whether you have a job like Kevin Warren, they might

560
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: pay you a couple million dollars. The human psychology in

561
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: the mindset for a guy like Kevin Warren, who's just

562
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: a corporate survivor, doesn't change just because the money's any different.

563
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: If anything, it makes him more willing, Like I ain't

564
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: giving up this fucking job. I run the Bears. There

565
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: is a zero chance I'm letting Harba in here, and

566
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: that's not gonna change with Belichick, Like there are gonna

567
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: be teams and people that are close to the owner

568
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: that even if GMS and stuff get fired on some

569
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: of these teams that are gonna not want Bill into

570
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: their ecosystem because that could mean them getting asked out.

571
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: So there are gonna be a lot of different you know,

572
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: cooks in the kitchen with this. And to me, this

573
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: is a strategic move I would imagine by people around

574
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: Bill or I mean, Bill's been doing this long enough

575
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 2: to also know, like get them talking about you, not

576
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: just talking about you about like your take on Brian

577
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 2: day Ball or your take on Robert Sala or your

578
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: take on Daniel Jones or you know whatever, Like Okay,

579
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: we get it. You got you got more football knowledge

580
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: than everybody. Like we've seen it. Now, we've seen a

581
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: personality that all your players and people who've been around

582
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: you already knew you had. You've displayed that. Now now

583
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: it's time to be like, I'm not bullshitting, I'm ready

584
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 2: to fuck. Give me a whistle, give me a contract,

585
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: let's go, let's go win some games. I think Belichick's

586
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: trying to let you know, the owners know, like, eh,

587
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: people are talking to me. The other thing I watched

588
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: in Hard Knocks, which I wasn't really planning on doing it,

589
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: and then my schedule got thrown off today. And I

590
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: usually go to the gym sometime between like six thirty

591
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: and seven thirty in the morning, try to bang it

592
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 2: out early so we can attack the rest of the day.

593
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: But today I'm not going till the afternoon. A little

594
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: kind of quiet in there, and all of a sudden,

595
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really have anything to listen to.

596
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm not really feeling music, and I had seen a

597
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: clip earlier in the day. I'm like, oh, a hard knock.

598
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: So I bring up my HBO Max and I just

599
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: watch it on my phone and it's pretty to me

600
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,959
Speaker 2: once they get to the games at the end, like

601
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: I just watched the Steelers play the Bengals and the

602
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: Ravens play the Eagles. Like I don't need highlights of this,

603
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: but the actual like game planning, getting ready and the

604
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: coaches talking to the team and the position like that

605
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: was really cool. But there was a scene in there,

606
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: a lot of Steelers, a lot of Tomlin and Tomlin

607
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: who defensive guy, hangs out with the defensive staff, so

608
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: it looked like a Monday or Tuesday getting ready for

609
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: the week. Mike Tomlin is in the defensive staff meeting

610
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: room is what I've never been to the Pittsburgh practe facility,

611
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: but I've been to enough football ops. Is like I

612
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: think it's a defensive staff meeting room where there's usually

613
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: a long table and a huge projector to watch film

614
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: as a staff. And Tomlin's in there with the defensive

615
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 2: coordinator and the rest of the defensive staff, and all

616
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: of a sudden and I would guess this is Monday

617
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: or Tuesday, so player's day off. Minka Fitzpatrick walks in

618
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: and starts watching film with the rest of them, and

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00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 2: it really hit me, like when you invest in high

620
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: end players. And obviously Minco when he's healthy, has been

621
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: one of the better players in the NFL. But we

622
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 2: talk a lot about quarterbacks. The reason quarterbacks get so

623
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: much money, get so much praise, and are so relied

624
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: upon is because there's more on their shoulders. They don't

625
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 2: get to screw off three days a week and just

626
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: have to practice a couple days and then get to

627
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: play in the game like their Monday through Sunday. Is

628
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 2: a lot like a coach, but the player version, it's

629
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: way different than every other player. But I do believe

630
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: the best players on your team typically approach their job

631
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 2: like their version of the quarterback, and the draft isn't

632
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: that far away, and we're gonna be talking about a

633
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 2: lot of these prospects and nitpicking them. This is why

634
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: character football like love of football, love and aspiration to

635
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,600
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637
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,880
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638
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 2: Is because the best players go above and beyond. I

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00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,240
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00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:58,239
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00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: first of all, he's like, you know, he's not quite

642
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 2: good enough and a good enough athlete to make play,

643
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: so I have to study extra film. It's him at

644
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: like ten o'clock at night on like a Wednesday night

645
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 2: in the Panthers facility watching film. It's like, Luke, no,

646
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: you're one of the best athletes in the league. But

647
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: in his mind to learn everything, he had to go

648
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: above and beyond. And this is what is so difficult about,

649
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, scouting young players is you really got to

650
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: feel comfortable and the better character, the better wiring. And

651
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: the Steelers have been full of these guys for a

652
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: long period of time. And Mike Tomlin, because he's such

653
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: a great personality, can handle a few kind of wild cards,

654
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 2: you know, Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell, George Pickens. But for

655
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: the most part, like part of the reason the Steelers

656
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 2: don't lose really ever. I know they don't win the playoffs,

657
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying they never have, like what the

658
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: Giants are going through, what the Raiders are going through,

659
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: what the Jags always go through. With all these shitty

660
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: teams end up going through all the time. It's like

661
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers minimum nine to eight, ten and seven this

662
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: year probably be twelve or thirteen wins is because their

663
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: team is full of those type guys. And think about it.

664
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,439
Speaker 2: When they needed to trade for somebody, and they don't

665
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: often do this, they traded a first round pick for

666
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 2: men Convince Patrick, which I thought at the time was insane,

667
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: but they knew what they were doing because this guy's

668
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: wired like Cam Hayward, like TJ. Watt, like their type guys.

669
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: And I just thought it was a scene that probably

670
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: won't get talked about a lot, But those are the

671
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: type things what I love about football, and really what

672
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: I miss about hard knocks that I think is kind

673
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 2: of cool on this end season. This the four teams

674
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: is like the nitty gritty Monday through Friday, the grind

675
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: and the tape, the coaches working with the players, the

676
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: game planning. Obviously the games are the best, but that

677
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: element of the chess game is really really cool. Okay,

678
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: before we get out of here, I do have to

679
00:36:53,680 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: bring up something on Fugazi Friday because a couple things.

680
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 2: Let's start with this. Actually, Adam Schefter had an Instagram post.

681
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: He probably put it on Twitter too. Eric b Enemy,

682
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: who was polarizing for a while because it felt like

683
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: the NFL was racist not giving him a shot, never

684
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: got a job, finally did get his own off left

685
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, becomes offensive coordinator with the Commanders, terrible on offense,

686
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: everyone gets fired, and then he goes to UCLA and

687
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: becomes the coordinator for the UCLA Bruins. And Ucla actually

688
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 2: only had one less loss than the Trojans, but they

689
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 2: weren't very good this year. And a couple of days ago,

690
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone on the phone in the

691
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: loop who was like, Eric Bnemy's gonna get fired, Like seriously,

692
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna Sean Foster's gonna fire him. He's like, yeah,

693
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 2: they can't stand him. He wouldn't listen to him. And

694
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: then today the news breaks. I was like, I wasn't surprised,

695
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: but then I read this quote that Adam Schefter put

696
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: out from Eric Benim and he's agent, and it read

697
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: Eric and UCLA mutually parted ways. Today is previously planned.

698
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: He's still getting paid by the commanders. After interviewing for

699
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 2: the head coaching jobs last year, he wanted to stay

700
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: active and busy, so he decided to go help DeShawn,

701
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: who is like his little brother at UCLA, as opposed

702
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: to sitting out the year. The plan was always to

703
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: return to the NFL in twenty twenty five, and he's

704
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: looking forward to opportunities ahead. That's just boldfaced propaganda. That's

705
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: just complete bullshit. Someone around his agent should have been like,

706
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: just don't even say anything. You get it's football. Sometimes

707
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 2: you butt heads with people get fired. But to put

708
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: out it's also a shot at Deshan Foster. I just

709
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: fired you and you're calling me I'm your little brother. No,

710
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: I'm Deshan Foster, the head coach at UCLA, and I

711
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: no longer want you to be my offensive coordinator. So

712
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 2: you're fired, like that just happened. And then you put

713
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: out that statement, I'm his older brother. What that That's

714
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: one of the most insane things I've ever read in

715
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 2: my entire life. I can't believe he gave that quote

716
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: to Adam Scheffer. It's honestly laughable that they mutually departed

717
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 2: and this was always the plan. This is why, Like

718
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: my parents grew up in an era in the fifties

719
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: and sixties that when a nuke was coming, you know,

720
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 2: they thought one, they would tell you if you were

721
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,959
Speaker 2: a kid, to get under the desk, like that would

722
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: save you. And everyone just listened, and the parents were like,

723
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: get under those desks. I can't imagine living in those

724
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: times like we live in these times where it's like

725
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: we just this can't be serious, Like is there is

726
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: there a human being who believes this? And listen. I

727
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: don't know Eric personally, all my buddies in Kansas City

728
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: always liked him, thought he was a good coach, but

729
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: like this, this is a joke. This is also a

730
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 2: pretty big f you to de Sean Foster with that

731
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: little brother comment. That's pretty embarrassing. This is Eric b

732
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: Enemy after leaving the Chiefs. It is not going well.

733
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: I feel pretty confident I don't see a path for

734
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 2: him to be an offensive coordinator in the NFL in

735
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Just based on that statement alone, it's like,

736
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: take some accountability. Man. The other thing that I see

737
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: a lot that is just pretty funny. It's like forever

738
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: you would get recruited somewhere, you know, the signing day

739
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: just happened. It's obviously different now with the transfer portal,

740
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 2: but the high school signing day, and a guy would

741
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: be like, you know, I just I just loved coach Middlecoff.

742
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: He was just so awesome. He resonated with me, and

743
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: my dad loved him, and he was always he came

744
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: to my house a couple of times from dinner, and

745
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: he's been recruiting me for three years. We's had a

746
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: special bond. And I saw a couple of kids a

747
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 2: day just on my Twitter feed. Like given those types

748
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 2: and a big programs, you know, Michigan and Texas, like

749
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: guys just say they gave me nine hundred thousand dollars,

750
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: like they gave me the most money. Brian Kelly went

751
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: on this rant today about the greed and all the bs.

752
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,319
Speaker 2: I don't care about any of that. Now. For a

753
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: long period of time, when guys flipped last minute in

754
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: college football, it was like they got a brown bag.

755
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: Now there's a big difference getting a brown bag of

756
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: sixty thousand dollars in cash or twenty thousand dollars in

757
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: cash or a car than getting you know, potentially a

758
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,919
Speaker 2: million dollars. I saw Tulsa. They have parents of kids.

759
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: I think Tulsa just fired their coach. Parents of kids

760
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: at Tulsa are suing the program because that coach that

761
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: was fired at promised kids money. It's like, no one

762
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: gives a fuck about any of you guys like this.

763
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: No one's gonna give a shit. Sue all you want,

764
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: like just verbal agreement, get that thing in writing. But

765
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: you guys are a Tulsa. But these big programs, Michigan's

766
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 2: giving out millions, Bama LSU all this stuff. But it

767
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: is pretty funny that you see these kids still try

768
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: to act like innocent, and which is cool. I mean,

769
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: it's an awesome moment. You know you're going on you're

770
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: leaving your parents' nests, you know, going to a program,

771
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: trying to make your dreams come true and eventually play

772
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. But it's all pay for play now,

773
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: with any player worth their salt, I mean a minimum

774
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,439
Speaker 2: good recruits getting I don't know, seventy five one hundred grand.

775
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: All the guys in the top one hundred are getting

776
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: paid premiums at least promise premiums. And that's the reason. Now,

777
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: whether they get it or not, I don't know. I

778
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: don't exactly know how the cash exchange here works. I

779
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 2: would imagine there are sometimes when the money actually does

780
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: not hit the account, and there are some promises that

781
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 2: are not actually followed through on. Welcome to life. It's

782
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: actually an incredible business life life lesson for any of

783
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: these kids that gets dift Like anytime. Shit, I went

784
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: through my thirties when a changed careers started doing some stuff,

785
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: You're like, you realize, like, yeah, fucking welcome to the

786
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: real world. It's great experience. Keep you on your toes.

787
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just come on, guys, stop pretending you're

788
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: going there for the colors in the college atmosphere. You're

789
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,919
Speaker 2: going there for one reason and one reason only and last,

790
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: but not least, And I'm not here to complain obviously

791
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 2: inflation prices have change. But Southwest, you know Mark Davis

792
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 2: when they used to be in Oakland, he used to

793
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: fly everywhere before they moved to Vegas. Everywhere on Southwest.

794
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: You could always see Mark Davis at a Southwest terminal,

795
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: and Southwest had a lot of great connections. If you

796
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: wanted to go to Vegas or southern California, your Arizona,

797
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: or wherever around the West coast, it was incredible and

798
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,280
Speaker 2: you could fly for really cheap. You could get a ticket.

799
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean if you were just a little ahead of

800
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: the time on a non busy time, for like fifty

801
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: nine ninety nine, it was it was the deal upon

802
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: all deals that's out the window. Southwest now, to me

803
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: is not that far away from frontier airlines in terms

804
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: of like one you don't get that much, and two

805
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: you kind of pay a lot. So it's like I

806
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: looked at some tickets the other day we had to

807
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 2: fly home two for Christmas, and I was just started looking.

808
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, what if I flew first class with United

809
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: relative to what it would cost me to fly Southwest.

810
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: That also includes I always upgrade because I want to

811
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: be like a one through fifteen. I hate waiting for

812
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: the seas, and it was like a difference of like

813
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty dollars, and listen, I don't think

814
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 2: I've ever flown first class in my life. But my

815
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: point is I just wanted to compare. I'm like, this

816
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: is this is no longer some bargain. It was like,

817
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 2: want to get away and give me your credit card

818
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: because it's a shitload of money. I don't fly that

819
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: much anymore. For those of you that listen, business that

820
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: travel a lot probably see this more. I'm less. I'm

821
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: not numbed to airline prices, but you know, it's a

822
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: handful of times a year, and it's like, it is

823
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: what it is. I have to go. I don't. I'm

824
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: not flying on a monthly basis to really base prices.

825
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: But Southwest where for most of my twenties and definitely

826
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 2: my early thirties. I can't tell you how many times

827
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: that I flew round trip different places. I felt like

828
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: for ninety nine dollars, one hundred and forty nine dollars

829
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: and now that price feels like three x and for

830
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: for an airline that used to just be your go

831
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 2: to because it just cost you nothing has now like

832
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: bumped up. It's like no different than flying some of

833
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 2: these other airlines like business class. It's it's insane. So Southwest,

834
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 2: you had a hell of a run, but I think

835
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: you're I think it's over, okay. After a little Thanksgiving hiatus,

836
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: my main man stuck you who was on the ground

837
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: last week because it comes at you fast. We had

838
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: a lot going on. We didn't get to talk. Well

839
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 2: since we've last talked, Ibra Fluss has been fired. Ryan Day.

840
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: I would say in my short list of games in

841
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 2: my life, you know, we've seen crazy NFL upsets, but

842
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: during the regular season whatever in college football, that has

843
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: to be on the short list of craziest outcomes I've

844
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 2: ever envisioned. I know it was a three touchdown? Was

845
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 2: it twenty two and a half? Twenty three points? I

846
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 2: don't know exactly what it ended at a kickoff, but Stuckey,

847
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: long time, no talk. We got, you know, championship weekend.

848
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: Ryan Day is not involved. I can't even if you

849
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 2: would have told either of us that two weeks ago

850
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 2: that we'd be sitting here in this game and Ohio

851
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: State wouldn't be here, it would have been pretty tough

852
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 2: to believe, wouldn't it.

853
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I mean that game set up for

854
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: what was the number closed. Michigan took some money, so

855
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: did the under late because I think it closed like

856
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half nineteen. But I mean Michigan way down.

857
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: They have no offense, and I mean they threw their

858
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: quarterback through for sixty yards at two picks. And you

859
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: have one of the best teams, the best rosters in

860
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: the country at home, you know, near three touchdown favorites,

861
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: triple revenge, all like everything was that and to lose

862
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: that game is I'm very curious to see how Ohio

863
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 1: State responds after what now will be a long break

864
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: before their first playoff game, which will presumably be in Columbus.

865
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: We'll see where they end up on the seed line.

866
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's pretty shocking that they lost that game

867
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: and they're not in the Big Ten championship, and a

868
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: chaotic college football season continues because we have Penn State

869
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: and Clemson, two teams that probably didn't think they were

870
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: going to be here last weekend, Clemson after they lost

871
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: to South Carolina. But then Miami goes down to the

872
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,760
Speaker 1: now they're you know, they're hey, we got renewed life.

873
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Iowa stayed out of wait till two in the morning

874
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: to see if BYU beat Houston, and now they have

875
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: new life. They're in the Big twelve Championship. So yeah,

876
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: it's just a chaotic college football season continues. I just

877
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 1: don't think that there are any talked about this all season,

878
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: there's any clear cut elite teams. I think there will

879
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: be continued chaos in the Collegewell playoff. If you ask

880
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: me right now, who's gonna win it? Like, I don't,

881
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know who. I would say, I got

882
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: to see the bracket.

883
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: So and how could you bet Ohio State? I think

884
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 2: I saw this morning as the second best odds. How

885
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 2: could you bet on them to win? Four games? Right?

886
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: Or three games? Or what would it take? Twelve eight? Yeah,

887
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: four games? That's a lot.

888
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, the.

889
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,760
Speaker 2: It's just the bike can't get a pretty big advantage

890
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: of it. Like obviously, to me, if Oregon wins, they

891
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 2: have a pretty big advantage getting a home game and

892
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 2: then getting two pretty good setups.

893
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: Right, well, if they win, they would have a buye

894
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: and then they wouldn't get a home game. The home

895
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 1: games are just in the first round.

896
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 2: Then they go to the neutral side. Bulls.

897
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I actually think that if Oregon loses, so

898
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: I actually would be more interested in Oregon to win

899
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: it if they lose to Penn State for a multitude

900
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: of reasons. The number one, I think it's good sometimes

901
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: for a team that's undefeated to lose before a tournament

902
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: and kind of refocuses you, and I think Landing would

903
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: be able to use that to his advantage. But two,

904
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: there's a chance the five seed is more valuable than

905
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: the one, which is crazy. But the way that the

906
00:49:54,360 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: bracket sets up is there's a chance that say Arizona

907
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: State gets in, and let's say Boise State wins the

908
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: beats you nl A Boise State would probably be the.

909
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: Four, which is insane, right, you grew that.

910
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: And Arizona State would be the twelve. So what would

911
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: happen is if Oregon is the one, yes, they get

912
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: a vibe, then they go on a neutral site and

913
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:35,800
Speaker 1: play Ohio State, maybe Georgia if they lose to Texas

914
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: to Tennessee can play a really good team on a

915
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: neutral field. If Oregon loses to Penn State, they're be

916
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: the five seed. And the way that it could break

917
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: is you would host you know, Arizona State, and then

918
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 1: if you win, you would play Boise State. You play

919
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: the four on a neutral so instead of playing the

920
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: team so you just said, would have to win a

921
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: home game where Arizona State, who's down their top receiver

922
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: for the season, and then Texas.

923
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: If Texas or Oregon lose, they'll probably be the five, right, Yeah.

924
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: But I think if both lose, you would give the

925
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: nod to Oregon because they didn't lose during the regular season.

926
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: But if it's just one of them, then they'll Yeah,

927
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: they would get the five seed. And depending on how

928
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: it breaks, you know, I do think that there's a

929
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: chance that the five seed is more valuable than the one,

930
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: even though you're playing an extra game, which is just crazy.

931
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: It could get hard, right if Clemson were to beat SMU,

932
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 2: SMU still gets in and they put them at the

933
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 2: twelve and you get SMU five twelve.

934
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah, there's there's there's definitely variables here. But

935
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, if that's how it breaks, and like

936
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 1: you get your path to the Semis would be Arizona State,

937
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: Boise State. You can't really ask for anything better. Now,

938
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: in fairness, it's it's a it's another football game, and

939
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: we've seen this year that no one is really safe,

940
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,959
Speaker 1: so you know, and then you could have injuries playing

941
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 1: an extra game. But I do think that there's in

942
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, in a sense Oregon could benefit from a

943
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: loss like they haven't lost this year. They could focus

944
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: them and at the at the same time, Penn State

945
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: might end up being the one number one overall seed.

946
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: But then I could see them easily just losing in

947
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: their first game to you know, the Ohio State or

948
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: an SEC team totally on a neutral field. So and

949
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: I actually like Penn State a little bit.

950
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: At three and a half, I know I want to talk.

951
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: I want to talk about these two games. I just

952
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 2: really quick on the brackets. Tell me where you stand.

953
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of talking points about two things.

954
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 2: One I agree with. One I think is a little

955
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: more complicated. I think you should reseed like the NFL playoffs, right,

956
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 2: so you know, you shouldn't just be a bracket style

957
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: like the NCAA tournament, which my guess you might know

958
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: better than me, is why they did it this way,

959
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: because why wouldn't you have just copied the football of

960
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 2: you know, if the lower seed goes on, they play

961
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: the higher seed. Like, you know, if the seventh seed

962
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: beats the two seed in the NFL, they would play

963
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 2: the team on the by, right. Yet in this you're

964
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: stuck in the bracket, which I think we all most

965
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: people would agree should be the case moving forward. I

966
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 2: do think a lot of people that cover college football

967
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: and talk about college football say that the top four

968
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: teams should just be the four best teams instead of

969
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: the four you know, the conference winners the way they

970
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: are now. I do think that it's difficult because then

971
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: that kind of becomes subjective, right, And the one thing

972
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 2: you'd say about the NFL is there's not much subjectivity.

973
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 2: Obviously there's only one by now instead of two. But

974
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: the you know, the four teams that get home games, right,

975
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: one or four seeds do win their divisions, and obviously

976
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: not all the divisions on a yearly basis are the same.

977
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 2: Like the Eagles Division this year is much shittier than

978
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: I know. The NFC West has worst records, you know,

979
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: top to bottom. But it's like that's just harder on

980
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 2: a weekly basis, right, So it's like it's not apples

981
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 2: to apples, So I understand like that one's a little

982
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: tougher for me to just be like, well Georgia should

983
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: be the four seed or Tennessee, you know you could

984
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: cause that. Then we're just arguing like we would anyway,

985
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 2: like we used to. Where this one, I'm also of

986
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: a belief now I get it, Like I wonder if

987
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: there's financial lawsuits, like why do you have to include

988
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: a Power four team or you know, a not like

989
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: a Boise State, Like why do they have to be included?

990
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: They probably don't want to get sued, but like, in

991
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: what world are they even in the mix to get

992
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: a buy? That's insane And I'm a Fresno State, come

993
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 2: from Boise the whack? Like these are I like these schools,

994
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 2: but that's that's fucking outrageous that they are that even

995
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: Arizona State if they end up winning for them, like

996
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry their schedule. Playing just random big twelve teams

997
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: is harder than the Mountain West? Right? Do you agree

998
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: with that? On a weekly basis of playing Big twelve teams,

999
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: playing Kansas, playing k State, playing whoever you're playing b

1000
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 2: y U is harder than playing New Mexico and San

1001
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 2: Diego State. It just is.

1002
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: I completely agree. I see. But then here's the here's

1003
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: the counter to that. Yeah, and the reason the included

1004
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: group of five is just they're worried about loloscit as you.

1005
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 2: Said, throwing them throwing them a bone.

1006
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But the thing is if you if you received,

1007
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: then you're still bringing subjectivity into it because who gets

1008
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: the one, who gets the two? Right, You're still just

1009
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 1: determining that. So I could see just for my because

1010
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying with the subjectivity, But I

1011
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: think that I would just we put out the rankings

1012
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: anyway one through twelve, and I think that you know,

1013
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 1: you have to include the group of the best group

1014
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: of five to avoid your lawsuits. The conference champions get

1015
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: an automatic bid, and I do like that because it

1016
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: also cool.

1017
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 2: I'm cool with that too.

1018
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it keeps this conference championship weekend matters interesting and

1019
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 1: whereas in the past it didn't really matter as much.

1020
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: But I think that if you just ranked the one

1021
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: to twelve, yeah, you might get the four and the five.

1022
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: We got to argue that who's the sick, But as

1023
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: far as the integrity of the bracket, you wouldn't get

1024
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: it wrong. As far as like noisy as a bye,

1025
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: and then we're saying the five could be better than

1026
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: the one, like that's insane. It wouldn't it wouldn't be

1027
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: the case. So yeah, I could see I could also

1028
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: see this expanding. I also could see something changing with

1029
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 1: like just like six fourteen or sixteen teams. So I

1030
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: think eventually, like the Big Ten and the SEC are

1031
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: going to say, like we want four spots each guaranteed

1032
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: every year something like that.

1033
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 2: I'd argue they should get that now. I mean, look

1034
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 2: at the television rating from the SEC wants the ESPN

1035
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: bottom it's historic. And obviously the Big Ten what they

1036
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: bring to the table, I mean that big noon game.

1037
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 2: I know they bitch and moan about it and Kevin

1038
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: Warren fucked them by signing that deal, but they do

1039
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 2: get their own time slot in the morning, and it crushes, right.

1040
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean that's the game I typically watch.

1041
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean if you expand it to say

1042
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: sixteen teams, you could even say five, like five and

1043
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: the Big ten five in the SEC agree that's where

1044
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: we might be heading. And then you know you have

1045
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: your group of five, and you know you have your

1046
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Big twelve, you have your ACC and then you have

1047
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: three other spots for the best teams, the other the

1048
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: three next best teams. I think that's eventually overhead it.

1049
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: But something could change with conference championship weekend because and

1050
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: it's always been like this, and the committee at least

1051
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: came out and said that it could change. They said,

1052
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: if SMU loses this weekend to Clemson, then they could

1053
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 1: fall out and Alabama would then move in over SMU.

1054
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: If if SMU wins and Alabama is getting in, because

1055
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: Clemson would be out. But like, we're punishing SMU for

1056
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: playing its conference championship game. Now, the argument is, well,

1057
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: you have as there's risks there because there's a reward

1058
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: because you are playing for a buy so you know

1059
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: you're you're basically playing in a way your first round game.

1060
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:46,439
Speaker 1: But it is a little unfair in a sense. So yeah,

1061
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen with conference championship games.

1062
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: There's also not as much interest from a ticketing perspective

1063
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: of a money from because of betting and just fans.

1064
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: The TV money will always be there, but I mean

1065
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: you look at the Big ten and get in price,

1066
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: it's like fourteen dollars I believe right now, the Big

1067
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: Ten champion But a lot of that is because, I mean,

1068
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Oregon's far away. But if you're like a Penn State

1069
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: fan or an Oregon fan, you already know you're in

1070
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: the Collegewell playoff. So you're really going to go make

1071
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: a trip to Indy to go to the Big Ten Championship.

1072
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: If you were planning on making a trip to go

1073
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: to your team, you're probably gonna go to one of

1074
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 1: the playoff games, which have much more meaning and you

1075
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: already know that you're in there. But I don't know

1076
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: the solution to that. But we've seen in the past

1077
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: that there's you get punished. Teams have gotten punished. We

1078
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: saw it last year Florida State. You know, even though

1079
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: they won, Georgia lost. They were out TCU ten years ago,

1080
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: Wisconsin five years ago, Auburn twenty seventeen, they lost the

1081
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: SEC championship game. They were in the top four, they

1082
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: dropped out Alabama and Georgia jumped in. They beat Alabama

1083
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: and Georgia in the regular season. So we've seen in

1084
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: the past. So I don't know if SMU is safe.

1085
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 1: I think that they should be based on their season,

1086
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: and it's not like Alabama had a stellar year, but

1087
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: still it's the TV show brand News Matter. Alabama at

1088
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: its peak is really good. They're probably gonna find their

1089
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: way in.

1090
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 2: I agree. Okay, let's start with the Big Ten last year.

1091
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 2: You know, it was a big advantage for Oregon. Obviously

1092
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 2: they lost last year as a huge favorite, but that

1093
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: game had huge ramifications Deboard landing Washington, Oregon the winner

1094
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: was going to the playoffs while on the line, obviously

1095
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: Washington had been beaten Oregon. But it was just an

1096
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 2: easy travel it's cool travel to go to Vegas. This

1097
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: is a pretty big disadvantage for the West Coast teams

1098
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: just in general, you know, especially Oregon's of the four Washington, Oregon,

1099
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 2: USC UCLA. If they ever make it to this game.

1100
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: Oregon obviously well suited to keep going back to this game,

1101
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: but it's just a long travel and while they are

1102
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 2: a good traveling team like this is gonna be pretty

1103
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 2: a tip for a massive game, essentially a Bowl game.

1104
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: I just don't know how many of their fans are

1105
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: going to be there, Like what you just talked about.

1106
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: They're already prepared probably for the next game or whether

1107
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: it's the home game if they lose, or after the

1108
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: bye in Penn State. I saw the thing you saw

1109
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: a twelve dollars get in price. I mean you can

1110
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 2: sit like lower bowl Excellen seats for a couple hundred dollars.

1111
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: I paid more triple at for the red River game.

1112
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 2: Penn State is just a lot closer, and like you

1113
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: could argue this is a bigger game for them, like

1114
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: can they finally win a big game? I wonder if

1115
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 2: this is going to be a pretty big home field

1116
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: advantage for Penn State just geographically it's a lot more

1117
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: people that go to that school and big ten people

1118
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 2: are just going to be in that area. I listen,

1119
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: I don't see how I see both sides, like how

1120
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 2: are you gonna bet on James Franklin in a big game?

1121
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,479
Speaker 2: And it also feels like is there this value here?

1122
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: You know they're almost plus one forty five? I look

1123
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: this morning, you're getting over a field goal. Wouldn't you say?

1124
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 2: They're kind of built as a similar teams, you know, defense,

1125
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 2: high end front, seven, quarterback. You know, both guys can

1126
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 2: have their moments different. One guy's tiny, one guy's big.

1127
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: I do would imagine if you just went outside speed,

1128
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 2: Oregon has better skill guys. You know, Landing gets talked

1129
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: about really highly, and obviously he's an impressive guy. He's

1130
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 2: he's a root for. He also lost some big games,

1131
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,919
Speaker 2: you know before this year, you know, against the dude

1132
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 2: at Alabama who beat him three straight times as and

1133
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: he was favored in multiple of those matchups. So it's

1134
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 2: not let's not act like he's Kirby or Nick Saban

1135
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: right now. Now, I'm not I take him over James Franklin.

1136
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: But it is a much smaller sample size, is it not.

1137
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not like big game damn or anything.

1138
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: So I think he gets talked about like that though,

1139
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: doesn't he Yes, I mean.

1140
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: Yeah he does. And it's I mean like, look, he

1141
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 1: could have lost another one elier this year if if

1142
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: Will Howard doesn't go, I mean that inexplicable ending against

1143
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Also, I mean you could have lost the

1144
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 1: boys earlier this year. I think Oregon's really good. Do

1145
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: I think that they're in a tier above everyone else? No,

1146
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think anyone is there this year.

1147
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 1: So and I think Penn State is in the upper echelon,

1148
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: you know, of your top five, six seven teams. And

1149
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't think there's more than a field goal that

1150
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: separates these teams. I think Oregon's better, but by just

1151
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: two points or so. So if you're gonna give me

1152
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: over a field goal, I took it. I hate it. Yes,

1153
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: because it's big game, James, I've seen this story before,

1154
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: but this isn't like truly a big game, right, Like

1155
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: if this is the playoffs, might might be a different story.

1156
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: I like in a way like Oregon, Like if this

1157
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 1: isn't in a way, they could benefit from it. But

1158
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: I think that they kind of need a loss in

1159
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: a way. Now they're going to try here. They want

1160
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: to win, but I do think that there's just a

1161
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: little more like Penn State might be willing to go

1162
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more and I think that this game,

1163
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: as you said, it might mean a little bit more

1164
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: to them. And there is a team that hasn't been

1165
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: ranked number one this century, which is crazy for Penn State.

1166
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 1: So if they win this game, they have a shot

1167
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: to be number one, and I think they would be

1168
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: number Like so Georgia wins and Penn States, Penn State

1169
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: is going to be the number one overall seed and

1170
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: ranked number one. Where where I think this game comes

1171
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: down to Because.

1172
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 2: The lower the lowest day would be is too right

1173
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: if Texas were to win, Yeah, Texas Privy one YEP.

1174
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,000
Speaker 1: Where I think this game comes down to is I

1175
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 1: do think that you can run a bit on Oregon

1176
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: and that is the key to this game. Ken Penn

1177
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: State run the ball. They have two really good backs.

1178
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: Then they have this, they have Tyler Warren is just

1179
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: can do everything. A lot of them up a quarterback, Yeah,

1180
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: tight end, wide receiver who run the ball. Singleton is

1181
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: a bet. He's now, he's fully healthy. It's got that

1182
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: burst back, which I think is huge here. I think

1183
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: they can run it on Oregon. Like Oregon's underlying rush

1184
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: defense metrics are not great. Where Oregon's defense is great

1185
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 1: is they have great pass rushers uh Birch. There's they

1186
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: have a ton of them, and they're deep, and then

1187
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: their their secondary it's not like filled with NFL guys,

1188
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: but there's no weaknesses. But their their d line get

1189
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: pressure and they don't have the blitz. So if you're

1190
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: in known passing downs, you're there, They're gonna be able

1191
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: to get to you, and then you're not really gonna

1192
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: find guys downfield, especially if you're Penn State because Penn

1193
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: State does not have elite receivers. That is their biggest

1194
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: weakness by far. It's just Wallace and that's it. And

1195
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: they got to throw out. They got to get really

1196
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: creative and Coldennick is one of the best offensive coordinators

1197
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: in the country. They find creative ways to get the

1198
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: ball to Warrant. But they need to be able to

1199
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: run the ball here to stay out of obvious known

1200
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 1: passing situations. They do that. I think they can move

1201
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: the ball, and I mean, if you look look this

1202
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: Oregon defense, I do think is a tad overrated. They've

1203
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: played two really good offenses, two good offenses all year.

1204
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: It was Boise State and Ohio State, both them me

1205
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: at home. They won both by a field goal or less,

1206
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: and they gave up thirty plus in both of those games.

1207
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: Against Boys, they had two kick returns for a touchdown

1208
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: to win that game. I know is way earlier in

1209
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: the season. Oregon is improved, but I do think Penn

1210
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 1: State will be able to run the ball and then

1211
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball.

1212
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 2: I do think.

1213
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: But the key position to watch if you're just watching

1214
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: this game, not they get two into the weeds is

1215
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: Penn State's right tackled. Probably their best offensive linement is out.

1216
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: Got hurt a couple of weeks ago. His replacement he

1217
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: has been hurt a couple times this year. So his

1218
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: replacement in Wisconsin transfer Nolan Rouchie, he has played, but

1219
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: it's not as good. Can he hold up especially on

1220
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: passing downstors? Is that going to create the offensive line?

1221
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: That's worth watching? The right tackle position. On the other

1222
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 1: side of the ball, Penn State defense is really good.

1223
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 1: Can't run on them at all, Like no one can

1224
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: run on them. I mean, if you just compare these

1225
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: run defenses, like look at the Illinois game. They both

1226
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: they they played like six common opponents. Illinois ran thirty

1227
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: two times for thirty four yards against Penn State. They

1228
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,959
Speaker 1: ran it thirty two times for one hundred and thirty

1229
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: two yards against Oregon. Perdue ran it twenty eight for

1230
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: eighty five against Penn State, forty for two toh eight.

1231
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a a nemic Perdue offense against Oregon.

1232
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 1: I can go on and on down the list. Wisconsin

1233
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: ran for one thirty against Oregon. Can't run on Penn State.

1234
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 1: Dylan Gaber, you have the pressure. His numbers fall off

1235
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: a cliff he doesn't handle press well. I think Penn

1236
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: State can get some pressure here. So if Penn State

1237
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: can run the ball, and they can stop the run,

1238
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: then I think they're going to be right in this game.

1239
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: It goes down to the wire. So I took the

1240
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: points here. I think it'll be a super close game.

1241
01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of those other ancillary factors

1242
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: which put it over the top for me, as you mentioned,

1243
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: like location, the meaning to the game that puts me

1244
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 1: over the top. I think this thing will close a

1245
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 1: field goal, so I I grab at three and a half.

1246
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you. The way you just describe Penn State,

1247
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 2: it's almost like they got to play like some of

1248
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 2: those Jimmy Garoppolo forty nine er teams you know in

1249
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen in twenty twenty one to win playoff games,

1250
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 2: mucky it up and just get into a fucking fistfight.

1251
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 2: So you already think about who their opponents are moving forward.

1252
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: You know, you see why they would struggle against teams

1253
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 2: with their equal talent because if they fall down, they

1254
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 2: can't come storming back. But if they're playing what Smu

1255
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 2: I would imagine, throws the ball over the yard, like

1256
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna be it. They wouldn't want to play Penn State.

1257
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: That that'd be They now physical where you know, that's

1258
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: where I wonder, Like Georgia Texas. I understand Georgia has

1259
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: had a weird season, but their high end is not

1260
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: really disputable, is really good because that you know, you

1261
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 2: talk about front seven with Penn State. I know you

1262
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: were watching that Georgia Tech Georgia game. I mean number

1263
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,759
Speaker 2: three is a CJ. Allen. I mean he he looked

1264
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 2: like and I mean he's not even the when I

1265
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 2: close my eyes and think about their defensive he's not

1266
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 2: the guy that comes up like you know, they're linebacker,

1267
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: but they're talent up there. When they got to flip

1268
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 2: a switch, it's like God, the speed of these human

1269
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: beings is just on another level. And I just wonder.

1270
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 2: You know, they sacked them seven times. They beat the

1271
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 2: shit out of yours. Arch came in and looked like

1272
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,719
Speaker 2: a high school kid, and it's just a rough matchup.

1273
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 2: I can't even I mean, I would imagine they pressured

1274
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 2: them almost twenty times in that they were all over

1275
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 2: the backfield. And this is the type game for Kirby.

1276
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 2: It's like they view like you're not our equals. Guys.

1277
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 2: It's one thing to play Alabama LSU like you're an SEC.

1278
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 2: They don't view Texas. And this sounds like cheesy or whatever,

1279
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 2: but Kirby talked about it when they beat their ass

1280
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: in Austin, like we didn't come here for the fucking

1281
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 2: Lamborghinis and the pictures, Like that's their message against this team.

1282
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,840
Speaker 2: And I just wonder if Georgia, Like I'm a little

1283
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: surprised George as an underdog. Honestly, this is a home

1284
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,599
Speaker 2: game for them. It's not like Texas has been world beaters,

1285
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: even though they've been rattling off wins. I mean, every

1286
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 2: time I look up, it's like fourteen to ten against

1287
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 2: Arkansas in the second half, It's like, Jesus, they don't

1288
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: don't look that great.

1289
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1290
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 2: That was an impressive win against your A and M squad,

1291
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 2: who were just who you were almost on them making

1292
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 2: the playoffs. They fucking held pretty close after losing that

1293
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 2: first game. But I just like Georgia, I mean, I

1294
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,800
Speaker 2: just think, could we look back and go, that's just

1295
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 2: a bad matchup for Texas.

1296
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that those are all great points.

1297
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: I did play some Texas initially, but I'm gonna be

1298
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: looking to play Georgia. I think at some point during.

1299
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 2: The game, why not Georgia. Why is Georgia the underdog

1300
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: in this game? After beating their ass in Austin.

1301
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, they've just been so inconsistent all year. Their defense,

1302
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 1: like in the back end, it's just not the same

1303
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 1: caliber Union. I mean that Texas game is their best

1304
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: performance of the year by far. Two weeks ago, U

1305
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: Mass ran all over them. I mean U Mass was

1306
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: moving up and down the hill. Georgia Tech we saw

1307
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: ran all over them. And their their offense too, is

1308
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 1: their the weapons are just not there and they can't

1309
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:02,160
Speaker 1: run them all. This is getting in the weeds a lot.

1310
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:07,479
Speaker 1: But they're offensive line, they're all hurt. I you know,

1311
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: if you had to really ask Kirby uh if he

1312
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,560
Speaker 1: could like forfeit this game, I think he would to

1313
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 1: get the rest to heal up before the playoffs, you know,

1314
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: if it didn't matter, and.

1315
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 2: Like he'd rather be in Tennessee shoes than having to

1316
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: play this game.

1317
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: Yes, and they're all their offensive lineen are dealing with

1318
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: injuries and they like they they were like just like

1319
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 1: limping around like they so they can't run the ball

1320
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: at all, and then that puts it all on back,

1321
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: and then their offensives hurts you, and you're also the

1322
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 1: pass section isn't great. But their weapons on the outside

1323
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: are not the same calibers even I mean, look at

1324
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: my look at them, but Conkey and Bowers are doing

1325
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,439
Speaker 1: in the NFL. You don't just replace the I know

1326
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 1: Georgia gets spy stars, but you don't just replace those

1327
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: two guys who who like mccaukee's playing like a number

1328
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 1: one receiver, like one of the best receivers in the NFL.

1329
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: Bowers might be the best tight end in the NFL

1330
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: right now.

1331
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 2: I think you mean Tony Gonzalez and Wes Walker.

1332
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So they just don't have those two guys anymore,

1333
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: and then they're in these known passing situations. And the

1334
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: one constant all year has been the Texas defense. George's

1335
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: offense every week and their defense at some extent comes out.

1336
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: They come out so flat there. One exception was that

1337
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: that just that spot when they were at Texas. I

1338
01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: played him in that game, but they would look bad

1339
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: the week before. It was just like a classic Kirby spot.

1340
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: They looked like the eighty five Bears that game.

1341
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 1: It was incredible, but again and their offensive car well

1342
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: that game again, so it's like they haven't really put

1343
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: go back to the Alabama game. Their offense finally came

1344
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 1: to like the Georgia Tech game last week. Georgia Tech's

1345
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: that three defensive backs get hurt in the first half,

1346
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: and then Georgie's offense came back with Georgia Tech was

1347
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: going up and down the field against them, and then

1348
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 1: George's offense couldn't do anything. And this isn't a good

1349
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech defense. Their script is really bad, like their

1350
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: offensive script of Bobo this year. And then there's their

1351
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: offensive line injuries. The weapons aren't as good, they can't

1352
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: run the ball. So and then so I think Texas

1353
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: in a way and it sarks script is usually pretty good.

1354
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,880
Speaker 1: Georgia threw a curveball defensively in that game they got

1355
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 1: They were really aggressive. They're not usually that aggressive. They

1356
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 1: can usually win with their defensive line in front, but

1357
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: they were. Kirby was bringing it from the start. I

1358
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: don't I don't think Texas is ready for it. I'm

1359
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 1: curious to see what if he changes it up here.

1360
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 1: But Texas will be more prepared. Texas just can't get.

1361
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 1: You just can't get. They can't get behind, and that's

1362
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: what happened in the Georgia game.

1363
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 2: And you need it.

1364
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:40,679
Speaker 1: You kind of need a mobile quarterback if you're gonna

1365
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: sit back and throw it against Georgia. So curious to

1366
01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: see if Texas just stays in this early. I think

1367
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: they'll be okay, but Georgia will eventually make adjustments. So

1368
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: I'll be looking to get it on Georgia live. I

1369
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: just took Texas under three. I think they're gonna jump

1370
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: out and get a lead. But there's problems with this

1371
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: Georgia team, and there's injuries, and I think Texas look

1372
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: they have revenge. They got embarrassed on their home field.

1373
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: This means a lot to them. But to your points

1374
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: are right. Kirby is a motivational mass there and he

1375
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: could play that card too. But just if you remove

1376
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: that Texas game, the Georgia results this year have been

1377
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: just extremely underwhelming and inconsistent, Like they haven't put together

1378
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: a full game of good offense and good defense all year,

1379
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: you could argue. So yeah, and I think that the

1380
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 1: strongest union of this game is the Texas defense and

1381
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 1: the Texas offensive line is on another level than the

1382
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 1: george offense on Now there's an injury at left tackle,

1383
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: but kid who came in last week there was no

1384
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: drop off at all. So yeah, I think Texas can

1385
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:56,719
Speaker 1: run the ball easier, and I think they have more speed.

1386
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: Texas has more speed than Georgia at receiver and we're

1387
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: playing on a fast track here. I think that could

1388
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 1: end up playing as well. So I played Texas pre game,

1389
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: but I'll be looking. I think they're gonna come out

1390
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,879
Speaker 1: get a lead Georgia. Every week Georgia goes down. Besides,

1391
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 1: the Texas game does no matter who they're playing, Ubass

1392
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: goes right down the field eighty yards. I didn't Athens.

1393
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: It goes up seven to nothing. It's every week. So

1394
01:15:21,640 --> 01:15:23,120
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be down, and then I might

1395
01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: come in and look to get Georgia above a field

1396
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,160
Speaker 1: goal because we've seen them make adjustments. We've seen them

1397
01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 1: make halftime adjustments. So I think it'll be a good game.

1398
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,400
Speaker 1: But I did take Texas pregame under three.

1399
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like as nil and everything changes. I just

1400
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: pulled up Rivals because I saw a headline earlier today

1401
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,679
Speaker 2: that Georgia's number two in Texas, like going back between

1402
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 2: four and five. And that's just on the high school kids. Obviously,

1403
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 2: when it comes to transfer portal, we know Texas, Ohio State,

1404
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 2: and even Georgia they're gonna get sweet guys. So just

1405
01:15:52,479 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: get used to this game because it ain't going anywhere. Okay,

1406
01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: let's dive into the NFL this number. I think the

1407
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,640
Speaker 2: Bears are a better team than the forty nine ers

1408
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 2: right now. Like you just can't overcome what the Niners

1409
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,680
Speaker 2: are dealing with. I mean Trent Williams, who is legitimately

1410
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: hurt just his wife lost the second twin after already

1411
01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 2: losing an earlier twin in a pregnancy. Obviously, Charvarius Ward

1412
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 2: just came back from losing a child. I mean, Bosa

1413
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 2: has like had hurt his hip where he was playing

1414
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: through weeks ago, and then he hurts the other one

1415
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: and he's in way more pain and it's worse. And

1416
01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 2: Kyle said as of Wednesday, like yeah, it's hope, so

1417
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,960
Speaker 2: but I'm not God probably, so I think it's safe

1418
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: to say, like it's very up in the air, and

1419
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,920
Speaker 2: why are you gonna push him through? All their running

1420
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: backs now McCaffrey and Mason, Like, I just don't think

1421
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,680
Speaker 2: you can overcome the level of what they're trying to

1422
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:53,479
Speaker 2: overcome right now. And I you know, the Bears, while

1423
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 2: their scores are close, they actually don't play well early

1424
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 2: and they kind of come back when the team Lions

1425
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,200
Speaker 2: have a bunch of injuries, you know. So it's like

1426
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 2: Caleb's playing, he's doing a lot of cool stuff in

1427
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,080
Speaker 2: the second half when they're down multiple scores, but in

1428
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,880
Speaker 2: the first half not all his fault. Coaching staff there

1429
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: in shambles. But I just think they have more healthy players.

1430
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 2: I just think the Niners are out of juice. So

1431
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: the Bears plus four, I kind of like the Bears

1432
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 2: just win this game outright, stucky.

1433
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I struggle with this one. I see your points

1434
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 1: that if Trent Williams doesn't play then and it's awful,

1435
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,839
Speaker 1: what's just absolutely tragic.

1436
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 2: Well, even if this hadn't happened, he's been legitimately injured,

1437
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: like limping around like his legs all fucked up.

1438
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: Yep, So he can't play then, and then you're down

1439
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: your top two backs. Because the weakness of this Bears

1440
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 1: d is there is air run dye. They lost Billings,

1441
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: their defense attack on the Rundy's falling apart since But

1442
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: like Grenda, he can hit some explosive runs, but he's

1443
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: just not the same caliber zone runner than that you

1444
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 1: know Mason and McCaffrey were and is pretty even fully

1445
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: healthy right like you you see all those reports about him,

1446
01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:09,519
Speaker 1: like in warm ups, he's just like are in practice?

1447
01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: I always see that. I forget the Beat Graham, the

1448
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: Beat reporter. He just says like they're he's lofting the

1449
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: ball like there's no and last week he wasn't. He

1450
01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: didn't really and there was there was snow, but he

1451
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: he wasn't throwing the ball down field. The arm strength

1452
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 1: is it there? Is he fully healthy? I don't think so?

1453
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 1: But how how well? How healthy is he? I don't know.

1454
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 1: They're they're just dealing with so much. But on the

1455
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: other side, it's like part of me just says, this

1456
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,000
Speaker 1: is like, is this the bottom of the market, right?

1457
01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 1: Am I still selling? Like the forty nine ers only

1458
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: three and a half four point favorites at home? Now

1459
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: you have to account for all the injuries.

1460
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 2: This is guys that are playing, like Fred Warner admitted

1461
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: two weeks.

1462
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: Heah, which makes sense because he's had a bad year.

1463
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: He can't everyone's catching on him. Yeah, it's so I

1464
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: can't lay it with the forty nine ers. I don't

1465
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: blame you for taking the points here. This is probably

1466
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 1: the this this is their season because of the division.

1467
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 1: So do you get like just one last heroic effort?

1468
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:15,639
Speaker 1: And they have had a lot of stuff go wrong

1469
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,559
Speaker 1: for them, like just unlucky stuff, kicker of injuries, red

1470
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: zone everything, So like, is this the week that you

1471
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 1: know things finally go right? Because they're say the Cardinals

1472
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 1: are favored against the Seahawks. If the Cardinals win, you

1473
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: know they go to first place. Time the Seahawks at

1474
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: seven and six, you could be one game back if

1475
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 1: you win. So if they lose this then it's all

1476
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: then Like the Bears, where are the Bears at? You

1477
01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: get a head coaching bump because that usually you want

1478
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 1: to bet on teams the week after they fire their coach.

1479
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: And I think in this case it warrants a look

1480
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: because I don't think they like the eber Fluse and

1481
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,479
Speaker 1: so but where are they at? Mentally? So like because

1482
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: they just lost three division games in heartbreaking fashion and

1483
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 1: they're done now. So there's there's seasons over I mean,

1484
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,400
Speaker 1: it's not they're not going to try, which is where

1485
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 1: are they at emotionally prepping for this game? Because now, look,

1486
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're four and eight in a division

1487
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: where the third place team has nine wins. Your season's done,

1488
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: but you have a new head coach. There might be

1489
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: some juice there. So I could only take the points.

1490
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:30,639
Speaker 1: But there's just a lot going on here and any

1491
01:20:30,680 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: of the see the final injury report, but it's a

1492
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:38,960
Speaker 1: mess for the four, which makes that Super Bowl loss

1493
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:43,799
Speaker 1: just so much more painful, getting so close. And then

1494
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: and that was the year. Then this these these goddamn Chiefs,

1495
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: that was the last year. The Ravens have always dealt

1496
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,559
Speaker 1: with injuries like every year for like the past six

1497
01:20:55,600 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: years except last year. The forty nine ers always have

1498
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:03,040
Speaker 1: dealt with then injuries. Except for last year, they were

1499
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: pretty they were relatively speaking, fairly healthy. Both got close,

1500
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers even closer and didn't get there. And

1501
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 1: now you know, Ravens lose their defensive coordinator and their

1502
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: defense has fallen off, some offensive linement and the forty

1503
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: niners have to deal with all this. It just shows

1504
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: you in the NFL, like once you get close you

1505
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 1: can't just assume you're gonna be right back there the

1506
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,040
Speaker 1: next year. So yeah, I don't disagree with you, but

1507
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: just a lot going on in this game.

1508
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 2: Well, let's let's talk about those other two NFC West games,

1509
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 2: because they're pretty big. You know, the Bills, it kind

1510
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 2: of feels like after watching them against the Niners they

1511
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,799
Speaker 2: got their swag. You look at the rest of the AFC.

1512
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs have the weirdest eleven in one

1513
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 2: season in the history of the league. That the Ravens

1514
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 2: just feel like something's off this year. Obviously it feels

1515
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 2: like it's their year. Now this is a long you know,

1516
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 2: you're coming across the country playing the Rams, who I

1517
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 2: think most people after last year would have thought, if

1518
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: they're fully healthy, this is a team to be reckoned with.

1519
01:22:09,439 --> 01:22:11,920
Speaker 2: Maybe not a true Super Bowl contender, but a ten

1520
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: to eleven win team, a playoff team, a team that

1521
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 2: could win a game in January. And since those wide

1522
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 2: receivers have come back that they have just looked weird.

1523
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: I mean, I had money on the Saints, so I

1524
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: was pretty locked into Saints. Rams. They did not look

1525
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,160
Speaker 2: good for a large portion of that game, and they

1526
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 2: kind of separated at the end and they're kind of

1527
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 2: turned into a pumpkin. But some to me is just

1528
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: off with this Rams team. Now it's just a little

1529
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 2: letdown spot for the Bills. They still like when you

1530
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 2: look at when you just put their schedule side by

1531
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: side with the Chiefs, like if the Chiefs do slip up,

1532
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 2: which is very possible multiple times. I mean the Bills

1533
01:22:46,280 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 2: end with Patriots, Jets Patriots, So if they win one

1534
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 2: of these next two games, I think there's a pretty

1535
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,759
Speaker 2: good chance that they go four and one down the stretch.

1536
01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 2: And yeah, so I think there's still a lot on

1537
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 2: the line. Even McDermott talked about that, because anytime that

1538
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 2: you clinch a division, how crazy is it? Looking back

1539
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 2: to the Jets were favored to win the AFC East

1540
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 2: like a week before kickoff, and now the Bills clinch

1541
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: on December first, at home with five games to go.

1542
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 2: So it's a weird spot like it's I look at there.

1543
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,680
Speaker 2: I just don't take the Rams as seriously anymore. But

1544
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 2: there's a tough travel game for the Bills to be

1545
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,639
Speaker 2: a massive favorite on the roads. Pretty crazy it'd open

1546
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: up at four and a half. I looked this morning

1547
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: it was three and a half. I think I like

1548
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,720
Speaker 2: the Bills in this spot. It sums off of the

1549
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 2: Rams for me. Stafford's off the offensive line. I don't know.

1550
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see Stafford's dealing with that ankle injury. They

1551
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: say he's gonna be okay, But that's something to worth

1552
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:44,200
Speaker 1: note worth noting. I do think the offense line is

1553
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna start to trend up there finally have all their

1554
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: starters back. I think what you've seen over the past

1555
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:52,720
Speaker 1: few weeks is the offensive line continuity wasn't there. Over

1556
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 1: like the last four weeks, they basically just added like

1557
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: one starter back from injury. So like every week it's

1558
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 1: a new lineup, and then they're on of building that continuity.

1559
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: Last week was like the first time they had everyone back.

1560
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: So I think that you'll start to see them trend

1561
01:24:06,280 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: up up front. I just think this is the top

1562
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: of the market on the Bills. It's a team. A

1563
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, they were laying this same price

1564
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Who and I have the Rams better than

1565
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: the Colts with those When Flaccos start and they're laying

1566
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: four on the road, you know they got four turnovers

1567
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: in that game. Ended up winning by ten. So I

1568
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: think this is the top of the market and it's

1569
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: a tough spot just the first Their early is a

1570
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: team is clinched division by the way in fifteen years,

1571
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 1: but you clinched the division. You look so good against

1572
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, but the forty nine erd is

1573
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: the corpse of the forty nine ers team, like they've

1574
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,679
Speaker 1: had some teams that they've benefited from some opposing injuries

1575
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: in recent weeks. You beat the Chiefs. Now you're going

1576
01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,759
Speaker 1: on the road across the country after clinching the division,

1577
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: flying high. More importantly, I think it's just the top

1578
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: of the market from a value perspective. You got the

1579
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,040
Speaker 1: Lions on deck, like a big game, big marquee game

1580
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 1: next week. So and this is the Rams season. Win

1581
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 1: this game, you're right there.

1582
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: You know.

1583
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: You lose it, and the Seahawks win, you're because you're

1584
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,839
Speaker 1: you're just not getting a wild card in the NFC.

1585
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 2: It'd be a big week for Seattle if they beat Arizona,

1586
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 2: the Rams lose, and if the Niners were to get upset,

1587
01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:18,240
Speaker 2: it feel like Mike McDonald that's cruise into the playoffs,

1588
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't it.

1589
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 1: Yep? Yeah, So those are huge results across the NSCY West.

1590
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: But I also like some matchup things here and look

1591
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: the Bills. This reminds me like earlier in the year

1592
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: the Bills. Everyone's like, Alan MVP, the Bills are unstoppable. Yeah,

1593
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,800
Speaker 1: I remember it's the NFL. Still, teams are never as

1594
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 1: good or as bad as they look. And then the

1595
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: Bills went on the road, they lost to Houston, they

1596
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: got blown out by Baltimore. I do think Allen is

1597
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 1: the MVP. I do think the Bills have a shot

1598
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: at win the Super Bowl. But just those are signals

1599
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: that we probably reached the top of the market on

1600
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: the Bills. From a matchup perspective. Bills zone heavy defense

1601
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: and that has really benefited from turnovers. I mean they're

1602
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: plus seventeen turnover margin on the year, that's number one

1603
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,719
Speaker 1: the league. Opponents are ten of twenty four and fourth

1604
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: down against them forty one percent, number one in the league.

1605
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:09,720
Speaker 1: So like they've gotten pretty lucky. And Alan, he does.

1606
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: I think he has some picks coming. He has. People

1607
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: last year were complaining about his picks. He had eighteen picks.

1608
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: This year he only has five. His turnover worthy throw

1609
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:22,639
Speaker 1: rate is the same three percent, so he's just got

1610
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 1: a little He was unlucky last year, a little luckier

1611
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: this year. But you playing zone against Stafford, you want

1612
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: to play man against him that with his receivers back,

1613
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:38,840
Speaker 1: they torch zone defenses and then they play zone. You

1614
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: need to do that Verus Allen. Allen just crushes man

1615
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: because he can run against it and he can buy times.

1616
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: I think seventeen or eighteen of his twenty touchdowns this

1617
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 1: year are against man coverage, not zoned. So I think

1618
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:56,879
Speaker 1: that there's some good matchup advantages here for the Rams.

1619
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: It's a good spot. I think we're just now it's

1620
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: come down to three, and I liked it a lot

1621
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 1: better at four and a half, but I think that

1622
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: this was actually actually a five earlier this week. I

1623
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,400
Speaker 1: think this is the spot to back the Rams at

1624
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: home offensive line trending up some good matchup edges here.

1625
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,680
Speaker 1: They can get pressure and I think they can run

1626
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: the ball on Buffalo a bit. So yeah, I'm back

1627
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: in the Rams at home. But I can see the

1628
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 1: case for the Bills.

1629
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: Seattle's owned Arizona over the pe carol Ara right in Arizona.

1630
01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 2: I think I saw stat that that was a matchup

1631
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 2: that favored them on the road. Now, obviously new coaches,

1632
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 2: new players. You were saying early in the season, just

1633
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,679
Speaker 2: wait for Seattle to get some of their players back.

1634
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: It'll be, you know, a big kind of swing. One

1635
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 2: thing's pretty clear, and I've been I say it every podcast,

1636
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,879
Speaker 2: is if he coached offense, he would be discussed like McVeigh,

1637
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 2: like Kyle, like Lafleur, like Kevin O'Connell. But he's a

1638
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 2: thirty eight year old defensive coach. But he's a fucking star.

1639
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 2: Like this guy, like they didn't call him boy genius

1640
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: in Baltimore for no reason, Like he's really really good. Yeah,

1641
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:09,360
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying, Like, you know, that's why it's

1642
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 2: my issue with Florio floating out. They trade John Harbon. Yeah,

1643
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 2: they would trade John Harbon if Mike McDonald was still

1644
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: on their staff and they could just elevate him to

1645
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: the head coach. But he's gone and they're definitely not,

1646
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 2: you know, elevating Monkin or was Zach Orr their defensive

1647
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 2: coordinator who ship might get fired at the end of

1648
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:31,120
Speaker 2: the year. But this feels like Arizona's tough because you

1649
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: never feel great betting with them or against them, and

1650
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,680
Speaker 2: they've done a very like valiant effort this season. Kyler

1651
01:28:39,760 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: threw two bad picks, but even when they were winning games, like,

1652
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 2: they don't have that much talent, especially on defense, like

1653
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: you remove Buddha Baker, Like, look at what they're rolling

1654
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 2: out now offensively when Kyler's right, Trade McBride, James Connor, Marvin, like,

1655
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: they got good players, but this is a Seattle team

1656
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: that is just if you're them, you're starting to smell

1657
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 2: like blood in the water with the Rams, with the

1658
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 2: Niners you control. Now playing Arizona kind of built.

1659
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,599
Speaker 1: You know, when you beat them, you go three games

1660
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: up essentially with a win here, you beat them already.

1661
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 2: I like Seattle plus two and a half in this game,

1662
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: and this might just end any Arizona talk about the playoffs.

1663
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I I literally just can't figure out Arizona.

1664
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: So I don't think they're good enough, you know, And

1665
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: if Kyler isn't superhuman, if he screws up, they're screwed,

1666
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 2: which he did against Minnesota.

1667
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he did against Seattle. I mean Seattle shut

1668
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: them down. I did play some under in this game.

1669
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 1: I think that the Arizona defense. You're right, there's no

1670
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: talent here, but they're like if you look at advanced metrics,

1671
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:43,840
Speaker 1: they're above league average against the run and against the

1672
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: pass and overall, I don't know how they played well.

1673
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,439
Speaker 1: They're and they're well schemed. They don't give up explosive plays.

1674
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:53,000
Speaker 1: They make you move the ball down the field and

1675
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: eventually you know they make a play or you make

1676
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 1: a mistake. And uh yeah, I mean they're running some

1677
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:05,640
Speaker 1: like just really cool quarter stuff and they're so I

1678
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 1: love the way that their scheme and I can't imagine

1679
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,920
Speaker 1: what that defense would look like if it had talent.

1680
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean i've been I've always been shooting

1681
01:30:16,240 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 1: McDonald's horn. And like the way that you really tell

1682
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 1: the impact of a coach is not just what they're

1683
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,240
Speaker 1: doing with a team, because a lot of some of

1684
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:27,120
Speaker 1: that as players other guys is that, but what happens

1685
01:30:27,160 --> 01:30:30,759
Speaker 1: when to the team where they left and the Ravens

1686
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:35,400
Speaker 1: defense is is just a mess right now. And they

1687
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,640
Speaker 1: Seattle's defense had this downswing and it was because they

1688
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 1: were all hurt, like they had no defensive lineman. McDonald

1689
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:46,840
Speaker 1: finally like reshuffled his linebacker room, released some guys, traded

1690
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: for some guys. He got his linebacker room to where

1691
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: he wants it. The secondary was all hurt. Now they're

1692
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: all back fully healthy. So now this defense is fully

1693
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: healthy and they're rolling. I mean they held Arizona to

1694
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 1: six points two weeks ago. Last week, I mean the Jets.

1695
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 2: One of the touchdowns was a kickoff return.

1696
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 1: Yeah right, and then they also muffed a kickoff. They

1697
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 1: muffed two kickoffs in the game. Chanal just the disaster

1698
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,360
Speaker 1: special teams, but I mean the Jets a two hundred

1699
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,519
Speaker 1: and fifty totally yards for four point two yards per play.

1700
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: They did did nothing in that game. So this defense

1701
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: is trending way up. I think it's undervalued in the market.

1702
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 1: And I think the Arizona defense continues to be undervalued

1703
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 1: because people are just looking at the talent. So I

1704
01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:47,120
Speaker 1: think second divisional game too well schemed defenses. I think

1705
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,360
Speaker 1: they'll make some good adjustments, so I think this will

1706
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 1: be lower scoring, like a lot on the line. I

1707
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 1: don't mind taking the points here because I think Seattle

1708
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 1: is the better overall team, and I do think the

1709
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: one thing that worries me about the under The first

1710
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:07,439
Speaker 1: game was played outdoors. There was some weather indoors. This

1711
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: It's funny because the Seattle defense is really good, but

1712
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 1: I think that they would their defense would be good,

1713
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:18,160
Speaker 1: fully healthy anywhere. The Seattle offense they can't really run

1714
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 1: the ball. They don't have like a complimentary offense to

1715
01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, like playing outdoors and being a really good

1716
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:27,720
Speaker 1: defensive team. Their offense and Gino spent in particular, when

1717
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 1: they're indoors, they look so much better and they have

1718
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: like speed at receiver and they need to throw the ball.

1719
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 1: They can't really run it. Like if you look this.

1720
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 2: Year, they you know when they went to on Monday night.

1721
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they had like five hundred yards. That was

1722
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,680
Speaker 1: like the best performance against Detroit's defense all year when

1723
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: they were healthy. They went to Atlanta and destroyed them.

1724
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 1: They put up like their offense looked unstoppable. So yeah,

1725
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: they're when they've gone outdoors, when they've gone indoors, and

1726
01:32:56,840 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: they're like they have they can throw the ball around

1727
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:01,120
Speaker 1: and it's not like Arizona gets a ton of pressure.

1728
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,280
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that words me. So that could

1729
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 1: work in your favorite too. So I don't mind taking

1730
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,679
Speaker 1: the points I did to take some under Well.

1731
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 2: You think there'll be a you know, if we look ahead.

1732
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,839
Speaker 2: Let's just say they win the division, they'd be hosting

1733
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:12,880
Speaker 2: a playoff game. More than likely they would be the

1734
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: three seed, hosting either probably green Bay, Minnesota potentially. I mean,

1735
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 2: are they are they an underdog in that game or

1736
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:24,280
Speaker 2: is that a pick them? I know it's a long

1737
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 2: way to look ahead. Do we like them in a

1738
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 2: little upset spot there? Or like you said, the rain

1739
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,519
Speaker 2: starts coming down because they would have an awesome crowd

1740
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 2: and we have seen them in a spot where they're

1741
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: not viewed going to win that game early in the

1742
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,600
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll era with the Marshawn Lynch run against the

1743
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Saints when they were like seven to nine and won

1744
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:47,400
Speaker 2: the division. That's just something you know, that could get

1745
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: weird there. That'd be a weird spot to go if

1746
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,880
Speaker 2: you're like a Green Bay, like a eleven twelve win team,

1747
01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 2: you're the six seed or Minnesota and you got to

1748
01:33:54,800 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 2: go on the road to Seattle. That's tough.

1749
01:33:56,479 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: Spot three may be favored, but small, and I mean

1750
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: I would it would probably end up being like green

1751
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:11,839
Speaker 1: Bay minus two and a half or something. But Seattle

1752
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 1: has a chance to close that gap. So I mean

1753
01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 1: green Bay could continue to ascend, but Seattle could keep

1754
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:19,760
Speaker 1: getting better power rating wise. I think the market as

1755
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 1: it now has it at like two and a half,

1756
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,599
Speaker 1: three would be Green Bay. I would be really interested

1757
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: in getting Seattle at three. Yeah, they're going to be

1758
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:34,360
Speaker 1: a really intriguing home team, but they could also go

1759
01:34:34,479 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: like if they have to go to Minnesota, if they

1760
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:44,040
Speaker 1: have to go to Detroit, they can hang if they're

1761
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:49,280
Speaker 1: you know, they they have talent, have receiver Gino plays

1762
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 1: much better indoors. And now their defense is healthy. The

1763
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 1: remember when they played Detroit, it was a game where

1764
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: their defense was decimated by injuries. That's when it was

1765
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 1: the bad version of the defense. So they obviously would

1766
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: be let's see and as of now they'd probably be

1767
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: like touchdown plus underdogs in Detroit if Detroit's fully healthy.

1768
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:14,839
Speaker 1: You remember now Detroit is going through with Seattle.

1769
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:16,800
Speaker 2: We're doing this before the Thursday night game. I think

1770
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:19,280
Speaker 2: they're in trouble just the way I mean they Jamal

1771
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 2: Adams tells you everything you need to know.

1772
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: By guy thirteen fourteen defenders on I are.

1773
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 2: I think they Adams to play them a defensive line.

1774
01:35:26,479 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, blitz, blitz, That's that's always good for so yeah,

1775
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: that the Seattle is gonna be an interesting team if

1776
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,839
Speaker 1: they continue turning out and then you know their defensive

1777
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 1: game plan is going to be really good. Now a

1778
01:35:36,960 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: lot can change you just look at the injury situation

1779
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,960
Speaker 1: across the league. But uh, yeah, the NFC playoffs is

1780
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 1: is going to be fun. And you have these teams

1781
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: that aren't aren't gonna win the NFC North and it's

1782
01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to go on the road and they're

1783
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to Seattle. It's gonna have to.

1784
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Say, okay, we ended on this the fighting Jim Harbass

1785
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 2: who are cruising to the playoffs. Who would have thought that.

1786
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 2: I'm so mad at myself. I was like one of

1787
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 2: my favorite bets of the year as a future and

1788
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,120
Speaker 2: I got talked out of it just because everyone kept

1789
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 2: calling me an idiot. They don't have enough talent this

1790
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 2: and that. It's like here, they are probably win eleven games.

1791
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 2: This is a spot the Chiefs. Clearly, it's just a

1792
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 2: weird season, right They just every game kind of looks

1793
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:35,080
Speaker 2: the same, whether they're playing the Raiders, the Panthers, or

1794
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 2: a playoff team. My first reaction is Chargers plus four. Now,

1795
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 2: it's not exactly like the Chargers are world beaters. I

1796
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 2: mean they struggled to get like two hundred yards offense

1797
01:36:49,479 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 2: against Atlanta in a dome, now.

1798
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:53,719
Speaker 1: First down in the second half.

1799
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: To their defense, their defense is good. I mean they

1800
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,840
Speaker 2: got guys, you know, fifth round picks picking off Cousins

1801
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:05,000
Speaker 2: and Derwin making plays. And there's a little different animal

1802
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,960
Speaker 2: in Kansas City. That place is gonna be rocking. So

1803
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: my first inclination is Chargers, just take them plus the points.

1804
01:37:11,640 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: It almost feels like too easy, but like every Chiefs

1805
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: game looks the exact same, So I guess that's my

1806
01:37:17,479 --> 01:37:20,360
Speaker 2: first reaction, Chargers plus the points. But don't feel great

1807
01:37:20,360 --> 01:37:21,839
Speaker 2: about it. It feels like a tramp.

1808
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 1: I took the Chiefs here. I can't believe I did.

1809
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm saying. I think this is the

1810
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:29,400
Speaker 1: bottom of the market. On the Chiefs. They are eleven

1811
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: and one, but from a betting perspective, they haven't covered

1812
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:39,679
Speaker 1: in six straight games, and I like, they were laying

1813
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 1: seven in LA and they won by seven. Now you're

1814
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:45,200
Speaker 1: laying three and a half four at home.

1815
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:47,400
Speaker 2: Do you think that's a huge reason why people talk

1816
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: shit about him? Like if this is when we were kids,

1817
01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,200
Speaker 2: like nineteen ninety six and you're just eleven and one,

1818
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: people are like, oh, this seems excellent. But now gambling

1819
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:57,120
Speaker 2: we talk about so much, the numbers, We talk about

1820
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 2: the spread so much, like they don't even come close

1821
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 2: to That's why people act like they're a seven win team.

1822
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be part of it, for sure. Get

1823
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: gambling is drives a lot more of the casual general.

1824
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,680
Speaker 2: I feel like they would have got more respect for

1825
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 2: most of my life when you're just eleven and one,

1826
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 2: regardless how you win, especially when you're the two time

1827
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:23,639
Speaker 2: defending champ. Right, it's not like you're just a little

1828
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:25,719
Speaker 2: engine that could This team that's won.

1829
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: Bag dec I mean diconomics respect they were getting and

1830
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: how how much love they were getting last sex they

1831
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,799
Speaker 1: kept winning as underdogs in the playoffs and covering. Sure

1832
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 1: it was a different story, but the Charter has been

1833
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: pretty fortunate too, like I mean, and they've only beaten

1834
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: one team with a winning record was the Broncos all

1835
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: year last year. Last week I had the Falcons plus

1836
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:47,800
Speaker 1: two and a half, probably the worst NFL loss I've

1837
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 1: ever had. But then I had the Browns plus six

1838
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 1: and a half On Monday night. That was probably even worse.

1839
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 1: But the Falcons, I mean they missed a thirty yard

1840
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 1: field goal indoors they out gain. I did a ninety

1841
01:38:57,880 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 1: eight percent postgame win expectancy that game. The Cousins just

1842
01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: throws four inexplicable picks a pick six. They don't get

1843
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: multiple fourth downs. The Charges get a two point conversion

1844
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: to cover. They know thirteen yards in the second half. Anyway,

1845
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 1: you could tell I'm not bitter. But here's what's going

1846
01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: on here. I like the matchup for the Chiefs because one,

1847
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: they play a lot of man coverage on defense. Their

1848
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 1: secondary has not been the same since the injury to Watson.

1849
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Their pass defense has gotten worse. The charters are not

1850
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: the team that has the receivers that are going to

1851
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,640
Speaker 1: take advantage of that, especially if mccaukee can't play and

1852
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 1: he's hurt. He was their entire offense last week. I

1853
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:37,840
Speaker 1: think it's seventy five percent of their yards he's hurt.

1854
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to play. If he can't.

1855
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:41,920
Speaker 1: He's the only guy on their entire team that can

1856
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 1: beat man coverage. No one else can. I don't know

1857
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:47,320
Speaker 1: how they moved them ball. It happened last week against

1858
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 1: the Falcons and he got hurt and they couldn't move

1859
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: it anymore. And that's the Falcons defense. They also can't

1860
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: run the ball anymore because they lost Dobbins. They couldn't

1861
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 1: run against the Falcons last week. I think they'd averaged

1862
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,800
Speaker 1: two yards per carry last week. They can't run the

1863
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:03,680
Speaker 1: ball anymore because he lost Dobbins. And now if you

1864
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 1: lose McConkey, how are removing the ball? On the other side,

1865
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: they play a lot of zone on defense. They sit

1866
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: back in their zone. I don't think that's a good

1867
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 1: idea against Mahomes especially, and I think this is the

1868
01:40:15,479 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 1: key to the game, especially if DJ Humphreys would think

1869
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 1: he's going to start a left tackle starts to left tackle.

1870
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 1: That has ruined the left tackle has ruined the Chiefs

1871
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 1: offense this year. They cannot block anybody. Whoever lines up

1872
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 1: there is getting immediate pressure. From the last week against

1873
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: the Raiders, they had to kick their guard out, their

1874
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:38,800
Speaker 1: starting guard out to left tackle in the middle of

1875
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: the game. So Humphreys, I think it's going to be

1876
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,120
Speaker 1: a massive upgrade. I think he slated the start. Reports

1877
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 1: out of camp Barole very good, so I think the

1878
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: Chiefs offense will look better. So I think that this

1879
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 1: is you know, you have McConkie injury, the dobbins injury,

1880
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: and then look, this Chargers offense was already limited. The

1881
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: talent isn't great. Herbert's awesome. You know, your tackles are

1882
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: really good. You had Dobbins mcconkeee looks like a hit,

1883
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 1: but they're out, or and mccauckey's hurt. Dobbins is out.

1884
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 1: The receivers aren't great. A lot of it was like scheme,

1885
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: and I think the league is like starting to pick

1886
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 1: up on a lot of their tendencies. There's only as

1887
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:20,400
Speaker 1: the season progresses, there's only so much you can do

1888
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: with that receiving talent. So I think this is a

1889
01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 1: good matchup for the Chiefs. This is like the bottom,

1890
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 1: very bottom the market on them, like covering, Like I'm

1891
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: not asking them to cover seven seven and a half

1892
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 1: nineteen fourteen. So yeah, I.

1893
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 2: Just went twenty three to fifteen or something. You know, Yeah,

1894
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 2: who's better right now? The Charger are the Broncos kind

1895
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 2: of the same team? You have Chargers more, Yeah, so

1896
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,920
Speaker 2: you plan on betting against the Broncos in the first round.

1897
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, depending on the price. I mean the Broncos defense

1898
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:58,040
Speaker 1: is good. I feel like a big underdog. I mean

1899
01:41:58,080 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers are when.

1900
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 2: Haven't really beat anybody either, right, Neither of these teams

1901
01:42:04,400 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 2: have great wins.

1902
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: The Broca they should have just lost to the the Browns.

1903
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 1: The Broncos to me are a like dead average team

1904
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: and the Chargers when healthy are borderline top ten team.

1905
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:27,839
Speaker 1: So the difference between them two two and a half points.

1906
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 1: You're upside with the Chargers is bigger too because of

1907
01:42:35,240 --> 01:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Herbert Nicks has played well, but he's he needs to

1908
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 1: be like put in certain situations, you can't if you

1909
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 1: can't be, you can't be under pressure. They need to

1910
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:46,760
Speaker 1: be able to run the ball. But the charters have

1911
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: to get healthy because if they need a healthy mcconfee,

1912
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:53,040
Speaker 1: because the wide receiver room without him is bad, and

1913
01:42:53,080 --> 01:42:55,439
Speaker 1: they need to get Dobbins back. Is Dobbins and he

1914
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:56,720
Speaker 1: comes back, it's going to be the same. Like he

1915
01:42:56,800 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 1: was looking. He's amazing. He looked as good as he

1916
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: did coming off all the injuries that he had. But

1917
01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,599
Speaker 1: their run beat their run offense without him is bad,

1918
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,839
Speaker 1: and without if there's no mconkee, their offense is pretty limited,

1919
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: but I don't think neither team has Super Bowl upside

1920
01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 1: this year. Anything can happen in one football game, but

1921
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:24,120
Speaker 1: I don't think either could go through the AFC playoffs,

1922
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: especially not with home field advantage.

1923
01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,400
Speaker 2: Well, Stuckey, I appreciate you, and I'm I'm actually that

1924
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 2: the charge of Chiefs games. That's pretty good. I mean

1925
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:37,759
Speaker 2: night games, Kansas City getting cold. Jim Harbaugh on the sideline.

1926
01:43:37,720 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: This is the Cowboys again on Prime Time?

1927
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:43,640
Speaker 2: Who's it's Cowboys?

1928
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: Who Bengals? Oh my god, they scheduled this Simpson's alternate cast.

1929
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:52,600
Speaker 1: Alternate broadcast, That's why they couldn't get out right, and

1930
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,640
Speaker 1: they pre recorded like all this stuff, so it's unbelievable.

1931
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I am sick and tired of watching the

1932
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys and not Island spots like three times in unless

1933
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:00,679
Speaker 1: three weeks already.

1934
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a joke. Well, have a good week in

1935
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:07,360
Speaker 2: college football. It'd be exciting on Saturday. So I will

1936
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,519
Speaker 2: talk to you next week when we'll know the bracket

1937
01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: and we'll rock and roll from there.

1938
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely, have a go on, brother, enjoy your week. I

1939
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: see you next week. The volume