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Speaker 1: to some uncertainty. We'll get to that later in the show.
Speaker 1: One that we'll get to right now. Justin Fields out
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay with a concussion to Rod Taylor. His
Speaker 1: name is Tarrod Taylor, not Tyrod Taylor. That's a name
Speaker 1: we all mispronounced. I don't know how big of a
Speaker 1: downgrade that is. I know Fields was awesome in week one.
Speaker 1: We didn't see much in week two because he got hurt,
Speaker 1: but he'll be in. Shoyotani creates a new fifty to
Speaker 1: fifty club, fifty home runs and fifty strikeouts, not as
Speaker 1: in him striking out, but as in him striking out
Speaker 1: fifty batters and Adam Silver talking about NBA Europe in
Speaker 1: twenty seven or twenty eight. Adam Silver, however, might have
Speaker 1: a little more on his hands to worry about right
Speaker 1: now thanks to Pablo Torre's kind of intrepid journalism on
Speaker 1: what was or wasn't going on with the Los Angeles Clippers.
Speaker 1: Shout out to once upon my rival and now a
Speaker 1: guy who I think just legit probably doesn't like me,
Speaker 1: but I earned it. Pablo Torre for his tore pardon
Speaker 1: me for his great journalism on this and seeing he
Speaker 1: and Cuban go back and forth. It's been pretty good.
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Speaker 1: and before we get into it, and I'll go full
Speaker 1: here fellas a note to everyone out there in the
Speaker 1: Takes world, which honestly is not these days just media members.
Speaker 1: It's obviously media members, but it's also anybody with any
Speaker 1: type of following. We joke on first things first, that
Speaker 1: they call me mister Consistency. And while it is a
Speaker 1: joke that that is what they call me, it is
Speaker 1: not a joke that I try really really hard, and
Speaker 1: one of my north stars of media and opinion and
Speaker 1: kind of character is to try to be consistent that
Speaker 1: what I claim to represent, what I claim to care about,
Speaker 1: what the stances that I have sought out, that those
Speaker 1: logically align, and I don't pick and choose. And so
Speaker 1: let me give you a four instance. We talk more
Speaker 1: on this show and the TV show about the Chiefs
Speaker 1: than just about any team. If Sunday night the Chiefs
Speaker 1: were to lose to the Giants, or this past Sunday
Speaker 1: when they did lose to the Eagles, all of a
Speaker 1: sudden on Tuesdays, what's right, we don't get to the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: then I'm a fraud. Then I am picking and choosing
Speaker 1: when I want to, you know, do what I have
Speaker 1: made part of my brand. Right when it's good, when
Speaker 1: I'm winning, I'm all about it, and when I'm not,
Speaker 1: I run from it. Right that would be everyone would
Speaker 1: look at that, obviously and clearly as fraudulent, maybe even cowardly.
Speaker 1: The reason I say that kind of oddly, as I'm
Speaker 1: sure some of you are wondering where this is going
Speaker 1: before we get to the first big regular season game
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have played in years, this Sunday Night against
Speaker 1: the Giants is because of this if over the last
Speaker 1: few years. And this applies to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: be it a comic, be it a politician, be it
Speaker 1: a talk show host, be it an internet personality. If
Speaker 1: you have made part of your brand your allergy and
Speaker 1: your discussed of and opposition to cancel culture, and you
Speaker 1: are what many of you have called yourself a First
Speaker 1: Amendment absolutist, and you haven't found the time to respond
Speaker 1: or to talk about what is, at least at the moment,
Speaker 1: one of the most direct and undeniable, outright attacks on
Speaker 1: free speech by a direct state actor that we've seen,
Speaker 1: certainly in my adult lifetime, then you're aphomy. And everyone
Speaker 1: does not have to have an opinion on everything, and
Speaker 1: I think it is problematic when everyone feels like they
Speaker 1: have to chime in on everything. But if you have
Speaker 1: made part of your brand, I am starting the free
Speaker 1: press and I am going to rail against censorship on
Speaker 1: college campuses and cancel culture, and you maybe correctly went
Speaker 1: after previous administrations for trying to tamp down information that
Speaker 1: is disseminated on social media. If that is what you're
Speaker 1: known for, if you're one of these comedians who half
Speaker 1: your bit these days is can't tell jokes anymore because
Speaker 1: they'll cancel you. And you've decided to sit out what
Speaker 1: we've seen and we'll see how it plays out. But
Speaker 1: from the very top down of the administration, down to
Speaker 1: the FCC, down to the temporary what's the word, not
Speaker 1: cancelation at least as of yet, but dismissal of Jimmy Kimmel,
Speaker 1: then you're just a fraud. And that's fine, as Wild says.
Speaker 1: Everybody can't be mister consistency. And again, I want to
Speaker 1: make this clear. If you have sat out a lot
Speaker 1: of the First Amendment, cancel culture, that those conversations on
Speaker 1: whenever it's happening, you're like, ah, not my purview. I
Speaker 1: am not. I do not think you have a responsibility
Speaker 1: right now to be like this is where I take
Speaker 1: my stand. I do not feel that way. But if
Speaker 1: that's been your brand and you are more concerned about
Speaker 1: folks paying a potential private life penalty because of things
Speaker 1: they've said. By and by private life, I mean being
Speaker 1: publicly criticized or not getting booked at a theater, and
Speaker 1: less concerned with what is outright state actor induced attempted censorship.
Speaker 1: Then did you ever really believe it to begin with?
Speaker 1: Or were you all just either part of a grift
Speaker 1: or did it really only bother you when you felt
Speaker 1: like your side was the one under attack. I don't know,
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you do so question out there.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I have tried to do a
Speaker 1: really good job of staying off the internet the last day,
Speaker 1: so I don't this is You're gonna have to take
Speaker 1: my word for it. I don't know who I am
Speaker 1: or who I'm not talking about here. This isn't like
Speaker 1: a subtweet directed at some single person. Far from it.
Speaker 1: It's just my gut tells me that a lot of
Speaker 1: the folks who have been like more than anything, first Amendment.
Speaker 1: That's it, that's the most That's why it's first. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a good test to that, and I'm curious for
Speaker 1: everyone falls on it. With that said, demonse, welcome back in.
Speaker 1: You want to talk Chiefs Giants.
Speaker 3: Let's talk Chiefs Giants. A big game for your boys
Speaker 3: over there in their own head. Yeah, so they got
Speaker 3: the Giants this Sunday. They are zero and two for
Speaker 3: the first time in the Mahomes era they faced the Giants. Obviously,
Speaker 3: they are one and eleven in the last twelve at
Speaker 3: Met Life. What is at stake for Kansas City here?
Speaker 1: Well, I if they were to lose Sunday, I or
Speaker 1: they're one and eleven in the last twelve night.
Speaker 2: Game night games. So it Met Life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say it wouldn't that was like that.
Speaker 1: That number surprised me. I'm sure it's not that. I
Speaker 1: wonder what their record is the Giants in their last
Speaker 1: twelve last it can't be really good. Might be four
Speaker 1: and eight, but one in eleven in the last twelve
Speaker 1: night games. Here's the deal. If I'm being honest, I
Speaker 1: will not if they lose Sunday, I won't feel in
Speaker 1: my bones that they can't rally and make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And if the Chiefs make the playoffs, I'm sure by
Speaker 1: the you know, if they were to fall to Owen
Speaker 1: three and then make the playoffs, I'm sure by the
Speaker 1: time the playoffs are all around all really like their chances.
Speaker 1: But I am now saying sober minded before the game.
Speaker 1: If they lose Sunday, it will signal that this team
Speaker 1: is not a true contender the way every Chiefs team
Speaker 1: has been since Mahomes got there, not because they can't
Speaker 1: rally from zero to three, but because if you can't
Speaker 1: beat the New York Giants in a game, you've got
Speaker 1: to have without and you should have Xavier Worthy back
Speaker 1: for it. I would think, so the only super key
Speaker 1: player you're missing is Rashi Rice, then you're not going
Speaker 1: to be good enough over the course of the season
Speaker 1: to be a real super Bowl contender. So for Giants,
Speaker 1: by the way, five and twelve at home since twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three, So it's about what we would have thought.
Speaker 1: So that's what's on the line. I have joked, not
Speaker 1: really joked, that Mahomes has never had to play a
Speaker 1: meaningful regular season game, and that is a little hyperbolic,
Speaker 1: but in fact, I think what I've said is Mahomes
Speaker 1: has never lost a meaningful regular season game, and that
Speaker 1: to me was literally true until two years ago when
Speaker 1: they actually had to go on the road in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: With my argument having been the whole point of the
Speaker 1: regular season is to get the best seat as possible
Speaker 1: and to get home field in the playoffs. And if
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have never gone on the road in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: then none of the losses have ever hurt them. Two
Speaker 1: years ago, when they did have to go on the
Speaker 1: road in the playoffs, some of those losses I suppose
Speaker 1: did hurt them, but none of those games demons felt
Speaker 1: like they had the stakes of Sunday Night that you can,
Speaker 1: I think explain away. The first two weeks. Week one,
Speaker 1: whole game plans thrown off by Worthy getting hurt. They
Speaker 1: you know, they they don't play well, they can't. Herbert's
Speaker 1: playing out of his mind, you know. And the Chargers
Speaker 1: win a neutral sight game okay, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: not what you'd hope for, but okay. Game two, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs again can't really get the passing game going without
Speaker 1: their two star receivers or potential star receivers. Despite that,
Speaker 1: and despite missing a kick and despite failing on a
Speaker 1: fourth down early in the third quarter, they're on the
Speaker 1: precipice of taking the lead and having control of the game.
Speaker 1: And Kelsey makes a mistake. You know what, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're playing a great team in Philadelphia. Fine, again,
Speaker 1: not good and not excuses and not saying the Chiefs
Speaker 1: deserve to win either game, but neither one of those
Speaker 1: in a vacuum. If either one of those games had
Speaker 1: happened in Week five or Week eight or week twelve,
Speaker 1: no one be concerned about it. You know what I mean. Okay,
Speaker 1: you lose a one score neutral site game to a
Speaker 1: contender in the Chargers. You lose a three point hard
Speaker 1: fought game to the Eagles, so be it. Because they
Speaker 1: happen in weeks one and two, and they're on the
Speaker 1: heels of the Chiefs getting dog walked in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It feels seismic, but in reality it's understandable. Losing to
Speaker 1: the Giants this weekend would not be understandable. It would
Speaker 1: mean that they are there are some systemic issues with
Speaker 1: the team for this season that are not fixable to
Speaker 1: the tune of going on a Super Bowl run. And
Speaker 1: so that's what's on the line for Kansas City in
Speaker 1: this game. I know you have some follow ups.
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, are you still worried at all about the
Speaker 3: pass rush and Russ coming off of probably his best
Speaker 3: game or one of his best games in his career.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you can. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you cannot be worried about the pass rush,
Speaker 1: to be totally honest with you, Like Chris Jones tends
Speaker 1: to get better as this season goes along. I know
Speaker 1: he's an older player. I still believe he's the best
Speaker 1: de tackle in football. He hasn't been dominant the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, but I believe in Chris. The Carloftis just
Speaker 1: got paid. Carloftis was a first round pick. Carloftis needs
Speaker 1: to be better. And then the other guys Mike Dana
Speaker 1: who's hurt now, Charles Amenahu who has been disappointing and
Speaker 1: been wholly ineffective thus far this season. And then you
Speaker 1: have Ashton Gillette Jellette my apologies a rookie, Omar Norman rookie.
Speaker 1: They've got to be able to create some type of
Speaker 1: pressure without sending a blitz. With that said, I Russ
Speaker 1: having four hundred and fifty yards last week, to me,
Speaker 1: does not play into this at all. Like I last week,
Speaker 1: Russ was unbelievable. I don't think that was him all
Speaker 1: of a sudden turning back the clock permanently. I think
Speaker 1: that was him turning back the clock for an evening. Now,
Speaker 1: let me give you the bright side of if they win. Okay,
Speaker 1: if they win, and I believe they will win, I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it'll be pretty. I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: it'll be easy. But I am narrow deep confident they'll win.
Speaker 1: They win all of a sudden, they are playing a
Speaker 1: Week four game to totally flip every narrative that's existed
Speaker 1: thus far. Because you know who come to Kansas City
Speaker 1: in Week four? Your Baltimore Ravens and the so the
Speaker 1: the what are you shaking your head about?
Speaker 2: Tell me, no, boys need to be worried.
Speaker 1: Oh the Chiefs need to be worried. Maybe, but but
Speaker 1: just follow me down this path. The point I'm making
Speaker 1: is the Chiefs then will have in front of them
Speaker 1: the ability, if they win Sunday, to say, we win
Speaker 1: this home game against a team we literally always beat,
Speaker 1: and they're the AFC contender everyone's worried about. We get
Speaker 1: the whole people freaked out about the Chiefs. They had
Speaker 1: this brutal opening schedule. You know, they dealt with an injury,
Speaker 1: dealt with the suspension. They're two and two anyway, and
Speaker 1: Baltimore leaves that game at best too and two, and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in Baltimore Detroit on Monday night
Speaker 1: or I don't know if that's Monday or Sunday whatever,
Speaker 1: Sunday night.
Speaker 2: They actually it is Monday, what I know.
Speaker 1: It's a night game. Oh no, the Chiefs Monday Sunday
Speaker 1: night obviously, so it's Monday night. And maybe Baltimore is
Speaker 1: the team everyone's freaking out about, right, And so certainly
Speaker 1: if Baltimore loses to Detroit, people will be freaking out
Speaker 1: if they fall to one and three, so they just
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to turn the whole thing. It will
Speaker 1: not feel that way at all if they lose to
Speaker 1: the Giants. If they lose to the Giants, they will
Speaker 1: just feel like a bad team with a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I don't believe that's what they are, but they
Speaker 1: got to go prove it Sunday night.
Speaker 3: So you have seven teams above the Chiefs right now,
Speaker 3: and the Tears.
Speaker 2: I know that has to kill you.
Speaker 3: Is this the worst that you felt about the Mahomes
Speaker 3: the worst that you felt about the Chiefs in the
Speaker 3: Mahomes era.
Speaker 1: No, the worst I felt about them was post It
Speaker 1: was the twenty twenty one season. They had just gotten
Speaker 1: annihilated by the Bucks in the Super Bowl, and that
Speaker 1: next year, not only did they start three and four,
Speaker 1: but some ugly moments. Week one, they were playing Cleveland
Speaker 1: and escaped with a win. Week two, Baltimore goes for
Speaker 1: a fourth down late and beats them. Week three the Chargers,
Speaker 1: if I beat them at the buzzer essentially, and then
Speaker 1: week five they get annihilated by the Bills. And then
Speaker 1: week seven they get annihilated twenty seven to three by
Speaker 1: the Titans. The Titans, and and so that team fell
Speaker 1: to three and four, and you know, at that point,
Speaker 1: I guess you include the Super Bowl, had lost five
Speaker 1: out of eight and it was up until that Super
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Bucks, Mahomes had never lost a game
Speaker 1: by more than eight points. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they get blasted in the Super Bowl. They get beat
Speaker 1: by eighteen by Buffalo, they get beat by twenty four
Speaker 1: by Tennessee, and a span of you know, two months
Speaker 1: or two football months, that was the low point. Now
Speaker 1: that team ended up going from three and four to
Speaker 1: twelve and five, and then in the AFC Championship game
Speaker 1: up twenty one to three at a half time before
Speaker 1: that second half meltdown against Cincinnati. And that was the
Speaker 1: only year in this six year stretch they haven't made
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But that was the worst I've ever
Speaker 1: felt about them. This this so this the Giants.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I was a let's say, with the Giants
Speaker 3: win on Sunday, it's getting.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no. A Giants win puts us in totally
Speaker 1: new territory.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: get on to what actually might be. This might be
Speaker 1: a better game than Detroit Baltimore. It's so certainly the
Speaker 1: best game of Sunday.
Speaker 2: That might be boring.
Speaker 3: We got a divisional round rematch between the Rams and Philly.
Speaker 3: So if you think back to last year, this team
Speaker 3: was twenty yards away from beating Philly. Who do you
Speaker 3: think has more to prove this time come around?
Speaker 1: Which one might be boring? Are you saying.
Speaker 2: Detroit Philly Rams? Oh?
Speaker 1: Why would Philly Rams be boring?
Speaker 2: They might not throw the ball, dude.
Speaker 3: I mean they might go a little bit or do
Speaker 3: with everything that they need to do to get the game.
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's going to be a light
Speaker 2: show or anything like that.
Speaker 1: All Right, No, I agree with you. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is going to be a recreation of Baltimore Buffalo
Speaker 1: Week one, which, by the way, as did you hear
Speaker 1: what I think it was? DraftKings said about that Week
Speaker 1: one Baltimore Buffalo game. It was the single worst game
Speaker 1: for them, No, the single the single biggest loser for
Speaker 1: them ever. Okay, because if you guys remember what I
Speaker 1: talked about all the early money was Baltimore plus a
Speaker 1: point and a half. All the late money was Buffalo
Speaker 1: plus a point and a half. You then, so they
Speaker 1: lost both sides of it, with Buffalo winning by one.
Speaker 1: You then add to it, demons, when when you have
Speaker 1: that many touchdowns and that many points, nobody's betting unders
Speaker 1: on player props. You know what I mean. People are
Speaker 1: betting overs and touchdown scores, and in game betting, they're
Speaker 1: betting underdogs live betting. You know, yeah, exactly right. So
Speaker 1: they said that was their single worst result ever. When
Speaker 1: you put it all together, it's not surprising, all right,
Speaker 1: Rams Eagles. Who has more to prove? This is tricky
Speaker 1: because I think the Rams. I think the Ram the
Speaker 1: only team to beat the Rams. D I have this right,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna double check. I think the only team to
Speaker 1: beat the Rams when yeah, since week eleven of last year,
Speaker 1: when when they've played their starters, is the m is Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia's beaten them twice. The Rams since week eleven
Speaker 1: of last year have beaten New England, New Orleans, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, New York, Arizona, UH Minnesota, and then Houston, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: And they're zero to two against Philly. So and this is,
Speaker 1: you know, they're the defending NFC champs. Obviously they're defending
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champs, so one would think the Rams Philly,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, has been really weird this year
Speaker 1: because they are so unwilling to throw the ball and
Speaker 1: when they do throw it, they are so unwilling to
Speaker 1: throw it more than three yards past the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: And the only reason I feel that this has not
Speaker 1: and this is understandable, this has not been more of
Speaker 1: a story is like where aj Brown is really upset
Speaker 1: is because they're winning. Like, do I think had Kelsey
Speaker 1: held onto that ball and the Eagles were or Ceedee
Speaker 1: Lamb held onto that ball and the Eagles lost either
Speaker 1: one of these games, would AJ Brown be as okay
Speaker 1: publicly as he's been with the fact that they're just
Speaker 1: not getting him the ball. They won't throw the ball
Speaker 1: down the field.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do I think a lingering, lurking potential story is could
Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel, the head coach of the New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: try to make a play before the deadline for the
Speaker 1: player he used to have in Tennessee who a lot
Speaker 1: of people believe what fractured his relationship with the Titans.
Speaker 1: Was the Titans trading away AJ Brown to Philadelphia? Do
Speaker 1: I think that is possible if things go a little
Speaker 1: awry for the Eagles? I do do. I think that
Speaker 1: while Jailing, to his credit, clearly does not care how
Speaker 1: it looks as long as they win, that that might
Speaker 1: not be how everyone feels.
Speaker 2: I think J Brown is, like, could selfishly be hoping
Speaker 2: that they lose the game. No, no, no, no, I don't
Speaker 2: think that.
Speaker 1: I think AJ Brown is hoping you throw me the
Speaker 1: damn ball that I get to show everyone, remind everyone
Speaker 1: how good I am. I just don't know that they're
Speaker 1: gonna do that, right, I also think yeah. And but
Speaker 1: here's what's interesting about the Eagles thus far this year.
Speaker 1: Last year, it was really hard to complain about the
Speaker 1: Eagles anything because after Week four last year, they didn't
Speaker 1: lose a single time. When Jalen played and Saquon was
Speaker 1: breaking records every weekend running, the offense looked amazing. This year,
Speaker 1: that is not the case. Saquan's been relatively bottled up
Speaker 1: each of the two weeks, and the offense has looked
Speaker 1: stuck in the mud. The other The other interesting factor
Speaker 1: here is in a week when the Tush Push has
Speaker 1: been so in the news the while the past ers
Speaker 1: we're at the forefront of trying to get the Toush
Speaker 1: Push band with Matt Lafleur, the vice president of that movement,
Speaker 1: with Sean McVey, and Sean McVay was on the record
Speaker 1: who said, he goes listen, I'm probably just a hater
Speaker 1: because we can't stop it. But I also don't, you know,
Speaker 1: don't like how it looks, don't like it, wanted to
Speaker 1: have it banned. So I think there are a lot
Speaker 1: of really juicy storylines in this game. I also think
Speaker 1: these are two great teams. Here is my concern. If
Speaker 1: I'm Philly or potentially great teams, I should say, what
Speaker 1: are we doing with the receiver that Quinnon Mitchell isn't on,
Speaker 1: Like Puka and Davante, one of them isn't gonna have
Speaker 1: quinnyon Mitchell on him and Adri Jackson ain't the answer.
Speaker 1: And so I find that I cannot wait for this game.
Speaker 1: We'll see if it's one of my picks in our
Speaker 1: gambling show. If it were to be one of my picks,
Speaker 1: I would be going with the Rams plus the points
Speaker 1: because I think the Rams absolutely can win and I
Speaker 1: think there was a lot of emotional There could be
Speaker 1: some emotional fatigue for Philly after that Chiefs game and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden where they're having to defend their
Speaker 1: beloved push push to the media because folks are finally
Speaker 1: picking up on that. They're lined up off sides almost
Speaker 1: every single time, and they jump most of the time.
Speaker 1: And so that is and listen back to back Philly's
Speaker 1: opening season schedule, Brutal Cowboys, Chiefs, Rams Bucks. Now two
Speaker 1: and zero is the best you can hope for Rams Bucks,
Speaker 1: really tough ones, really interested in seeing them both. See
Speaker 1: if it's one of my picks. In a bit, let's
Speaker 1: get to the other game of the weekend, except it's
Speaker 1: Monday night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so my Ravens are facing off the Lions on
Speaker 3: Monday Night. Now, both these teams are coming off of
Speaker 3: dominant Week two performances or top three in points per
Speaker 3: game this year. Both of them were staring at one and.
Speaker 2: Two with the loss. Though who needs this game more?
Speaker 1: I think it's Baltimore because they have the Chiefs next,
Speaker 1: and because I don't think Baltimore is ready to punt,
Speaker 1: not that they would be punting on it, but ready
Speaker 1: to punt on the one seed. And what the Lions
Speaker 1: know is after this game they have the Browns and
Speaker 1: then the Bengals without Joe Burrow. So the Lions, even
Speaker 1: with the loss and they're on the road, can steady
Speaker 1: themselves a bit. Baltimore, on the other hand, beating the
Speaker 1: Browns is nice, but it doesn't make you feel great.
Speaker 1: It's just like, Okay, we beat the Browns, bolt and
Speaker 1: I don't care how shaky the Chiefs look. Everyone on
Speaker 1: that Baltimore team has had trouble beating Kansas City their
Speaker 1: whole career. And so this is a home game at
Speaker 1: night against the Lions team that when they played one
Speaker 1: of the big Boys, got dominated. That twenty seven to
Speaker 1: thirteen Packer game was not as close as that score suggests.
Speaker 1: That game was twenty seven to six and green Bay
Speaker 1: coasted home and Isaac Teslat made one of his two
Speaker 1: amazing catches this season, and they got you know, they
Speaker 1: made it, I guess somewhat respectable. I'm also you know,
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry has had one of the best games of
Speaker 1: his career and then followed it up with one of
Speaker 1: the worst games of his career. So I find that,
Speaker 1: you know, fascinating going into it. This is your team, Demanse,
Speaker 1: what's your confidence level going into this game.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm pretty confident. I'd say like out of a ten,
Speaker 3: it'd be like eight, eight or nine. I think the
Speaker 3: Lions are a good team, but I think we'll take
Speaker 3: care of business.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: Here's my concern for Baltimore. I don't love at all
Speaker 1: the back end of their defense. I like Kyle Hamilton.
Speaker 1: The rest of it to me is question marks. And
Speaker 1: now last year that was the case. Early in the
Speaker 1: year and the second half of the year they were unbelievable.
Speaker 1: They clearly thought it might be a need. They went
Speaker 1: out and got Jayurr Alexander He's a healthy scratch.
Speaker 2: Week two. It was weird.
Speaker 1: They were like, he's not listed on the injury report,
Speaker 1: but this is injury related, but either way, he's inactive.
Speaker 1: The Lions, if they can protect golf, they just have
Speaker 1: so many weapons. And Jamison Williams, even though he's first
Speaker 1: team All Knucklehead, is a hard guy to deal with. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Aman Ross Saint Brown's great, Gibbs is great, Laporte is
Speaker 1: really good. I it feels like a game that if
Speaker 1: Baltimore can't get there with four, Detroit is going it's
Speaker 1: to be able to move the ball and that this
Speaker 1: is going to be a shootout, which I guess. Go
Speaker 1: ahead and listen. DeAndre Hopkins has made three catches this year,
Speaker 1: it should have been three touchdowns, one who was ruled
Speaker 1: down at the half yard line. Zay Flowers, who I've
Speaker 1: never been a huge believer in, has looked really good.
Speaker 1: And Lamar's playing like there's no I mean, that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's almost a given at this point. But Lamar is,
Speaker 1: even by his standards, really playing great football, and so no,
Speaker 1: I think this.
Speaker 2: Would be a quarterback passer ready.
Speaker 3: Ever he's got yeah, he just right.
Speaker 1: It was Mahomes. Mahomes then dipped a bit, Rogers took
Speaker 1: it back, and now Lamar's ahead of both of them. Now,
Speaker 1: by the way, contractually obligated to remind the audience if
Speaker 1: it's career quarterback passer rating regular season plus the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Mahome still has the record for regular season, only it's Lamar's.
Speaker 1: And I know this is the highest total of the weekend.
Speaker 1: And I don't really bet totals, but if I were
Speaker 1: to to me, this is an overgame, and I just
Speaker 1: think that this feels to me like thirty one twenty
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Speaker 1: All right, demonse, let's get to tonight's game.
Speaker 2: Uh yes, So everybody's expecting tonight to be a blowout.
Speaker 3: I think it's a well, I don't think it's Buffalo
Speaker 3: minus twelve or twelve point favorites. Everybody's expecting this to
Speaker 3: be a pivotal game for Mike McDaniel's career. Now they're
Speaker 3: going to have some time with them playing the following
Speaker 3: Monday or I guess the next next Monday, so they'll
Speaker 3: be able to fire him.
Speaker 2: How does this game. Need to look for McDaniel to
Speaker 2: keep his job. What are you expecting here?
Speaker 1: Listen? If they get embarrassed. I do think he could
Speaker 1: be the rare coach fired in September. That to me
Speaker 1: is almost always a process mistake, Like if you didn't
Speaker 1: want to fire a coach in the offseason, only giving
Speaker 1: him three games to me is usually pretty ridiculous. But
Speaker 1: it's been really ugly in Miami. Week one was as
Speaker 1: bad as it gets, and then Week two is kind
Speaker 1: of a heart wrenching loss that you could have won.
Speaker 1: They can't get embarrassed tonight. Now, what I will tell
Speaker 1: you about tonight's game is the Bill's injury report that
Speaker 1: I saw yesterday, which obviously is the last one of
Speaker 1: the week. Gave me pause. Okay, the Bill's injuries are
Speaker 1: all on the defensive side of the ball, and it's important.
Speaker 1: Guys Ed Oliver listed as out, Matt Mulano listed as out, Taranjahnson,
Speaker 1: and Cam Lewis listed as questionable, with Shaq Thompson listed
Speaker 1: as questionable. Now, the only noteworthy dolphin that's listed as
Speaker 1: out to me is Darren Waller. Obviously, storm Duck and
Speaker 1: one of their safeties is also out. I think Waller
Speaker 1: is probably the biggest loss of the three, maybe Storm Duck,
Speaker 1: but Storm Duck honestly is probably just people know him
Speaker 1: because he's got a sick name, not necessarily because he's
Speaker 1: a great player. This is going to be a very
Speaker 1: popular Survivor pick. If people are betting Survivor on Thursdays,
Speaker 1: they Josh Allen has absolutely owned Tua and the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: All we know all of this, and the Bills should
Speaker 1: blow them out.
Speaker 2: They just should.
Speaker 1: The defensive injuries for Buffalo concerned me a bit because
Speaker 1: what we do know is if Toua has time and
Speaker 1: you can't disrupt the rhythm of the offense, that offense
Speaker 1: can be really good. And so.
Speaker 2: In New England, yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, he had the terrible pick late and he also
Speaker 1: you know, took the sack late like it ended terribly,
Speaker 1: but you saw how potent that offense in theory can
Speaker 1: be intermittently in that game. And so I would not
Speaker 1: bet this game either way. I certainly think thirty five
Speaker 1: to ten Buffalo is on the board, But is there
Speaker 1: a is there a chance that at the end of
Speaker 1: the first quarter this is fourteen nothing Miami and then
Speaker 1: Buffalo is like fighting its way back the rest of
Speaker 1: the way. It it's Thursday, which is adds some weird
Speaker 1: stuff to it. Is this me just wish casting, because
Speaker 1: you know, I want the Chiefs not to be eliminated
Speaker 1: from the one seed conversation by the end of September. Maybe,
Speaker 1: But those bills injuries concern me just enough that I'm
Speaker 1: going to give Miami a puncher's chance in this game.
Speaker 1: I also think that Tua saying, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if we talked about this on this show yet, Tua
Speaker 1: saying like I can't run or throw like Josh was unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Like that's just like Tua gave a quote like he
Speaker 1: were a backup quarterback stepping in rather than a guy
Speaker 1: who's paid like he's a superstar. Right, And yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean now got to play him. He's the guy
Speaker 1: you gotta go through every year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't love that at all. All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to Bears Cowboys.
Speaker 2: All right? Game of the Week with Dallas and Chicago.
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are coming off that forty point ot win
Speaker 3: and the Bears have allowed the most points in the
Speaker 3: league so far.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just real quick, both NFC offensive player of
Speaker 1: the Week through two weeks has been the two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to play the Bears, JJ McCarthy and then Jared goff.
Speaker 1: I listen the Bears, Everyone's going to focus on Caleb.
Speaker 1: They allowed fifty two points. Man Like Caleb, I thought
Speaker 1: was fine in Week two. He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1: It wasn't their problem. If the Bears lose this game,
Speaker 1: I you can, in my opinion, put a nail in
Speaker 1: their play Coffin. So the AFC upper class might still
Speaker 1: be the best of the two conferences, but the NFC
Speaker 1: middle class is so much deeper this year than the
Speaker 1: AFCs that I just don't think you can recover from
Speaker 1: zero to three. I am more interested actually in this
Speaker 1: is can Dallas's offense put on the type of performance
Speaker 1: where we say, you know what, we have to take
Speaker 1: them seriously as a team that's got a you know,
Speaker 1: a very real chance of making the postseason. Dallas's offense
Speaker 1: in Week one against Philly moved the ball at will
Speaker 1: until the weird hour long weather delay, and then was
Speaker 1: still moving the ball, but Ceedee Lamb was dropping it.
Speaker 1: Week two, obviously, Dallas's offense was unstoppable. If Dak puts
Speaker 1: up another huge game, then I think that and they
Speaker 1: get to two and one with the one loss being
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, then I think you do have to
Speaker 1: start saying hold on. Like they've been able to run
Speaker 1: the ball, they've been able to do whatever they want
Speaker 1: on offense, and you look at their upcoming schedule next
Speaker 1: week home against the Packers, even if you pencil that
Speaker 1: in as a loss at the Jets at the Panthers
Speaker 1: after that, if they win this game, they have a
Speaker 1: very decent chance to be four and two through six games,
Speaker 1: having already played four road games like that's something, and
Speaker 1: so not blowing that game against the Giants was huge.
Speaker 1: I actually am more interested, believe it or not, in
Speaker 1: the Dallas side of this than I am.
Speaker 2: The h.
Speaker 3: Well completely, I want to see what Dallas has in store.
Speaker 1: The games have to matter, man, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: like pretend I'm you know, I've been optimistic about what
Speaker 1: I've seen from the Bears. I think Kale has been fine,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been sensational, and the team right now
Speaker 1: has looked like a mess. They created a way to
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Speaker 1: All right, demons, let's get to packers Browns please.
Speaker 3: Well, they've had arguably the best starts of the season
Speaker 3: of anybody, with dominant wins over Detroit and Washington. Here's
Speaker 3: a couple of numbers. There are number one in the
Speaker 3: NFC Super Bowl odds. Love is number three at for
Speaker 3: MVP and Micah is number one for Defensive Player of
Speaker 3: the Year.
Speaker 2: Is this is all this too much? Hyper? Do you
Speaker 2: think this is legit?
Speaker 1: Listen, I said it after the Mica trade. I'll say
Speaker 1: it again. The most interesting player in the NFL this
Speaker 1: year is Jordan Love. They have all the pieces. If
Speaker 1: Love can just be steady, there's no reason they shouldn't
Speaker 1: be not only a real contender, but be awesome all year.
Speaker 1: And he's been steady. I don't think he's been sensational.
Speaker 1: I think he's been steady and that's all. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, That's that's fine. He has Coach Mangini
Speaker 1: had this stat I couldn't believe it. Like Jordan Love
Speaker 1: only has five games in his career with a passer
Speaker 1: rating between eighty five and ninety nine, which are like
Speaker 1: solid good not great games. Every other game the passer
Speaker 1: rating's either been eighty four or below or one hundred
Speaker 1: and above. So he really is he epitomizes the old
Speaker 1: Josh Allen roller coaster stuff and right, and so I
Speaker 1: really like what they have in Green Bay, and I.
Speaker 3: Really recuvenated them. They just seem very happy over there, excited.
Speaker 1: Such a great player, man. Yeah, and it's just it is.
Speaker 1: His impact is felt every plays on the field, and
Speaker 1: I think that they are going to really put it
Speaker 1: on the Browns this weekend and the and so we
Speaker 1: will well spoiler alert, that's gonna be part of our
Speaker 1: pick show on Friday. All right, last game we're getting
Speaker 1: to before we get to listener questions.
Speaker 3: So the Chargers have a chance to start three and
Speaker 3: zero if they go in here and beat Denver, and
Speaker 3: that will be three divisional wins for them, and they
Speaker 3: are in the Chiefs division, as we all know. Are
Speaker 3: you secretly rooting for the Broncos this week?
Speaker 1: It is better for the Chiefs if the Broncos win,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. If that's the question, like, I'd rather
Speaker 1: you know, because if the Broncos win, then the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are all of a sudden, only a game out of
Speaker 1: first place.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: If the Chargers win, then yes, you don't have to Like,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are tied with the Broncos assuming they beat
Speaker 1: the Giants, but the Chargers have that separation. The thing
Speaker 1: is this, I'm not worried about the Broncos, so that
Speaker 1: being tied with the Broncos doesn't really matter because I
Speaker 1: think the Broncos are gonna find some more losses along
Speaker 1: the way. The Chargers have just looked awesome, and I
Speaker 1: thought they looked defensively. Defensively, they've looked like the best
Speaker 1: team in the league. Now. I talked about it on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I didn't love some of the game management stuff late
Speaker 1: in that game. And they're gonna miss Khalil Mack. By
Speaker 1: the way, I sent this to the group chat, Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack listed or according to you know the NFL Injury
Speaker 1: Insiders is going to miss quote or it will be
Speaker 1: back in quote a few weeks. I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 1: and plant my flag right now that week eight is
Speaker 1: the absolute soonest he'll be back, and I probably would
Speaker 1: take after that like a few again, whatever the initial
Speaker 1: reporting is. But you know about the injury, add a
Speaker 1: few weeks to it and that kind of is exponential,
Speaker 1: where like Burrow three months season over Khalil Mack a
Speaker 1: few weeks, six weeks. So that's not good. Obviously, that
Speaker 1: injury and Herbert getting banged up a bit's not good.
Speaker 1: But I just don't I think bo Nicks is gonna
Speaker 1: really really struggle against that Charger defense, Is it at all?
Speaker 3: Allowing to you that have been Patrick Mahomes had the
Speaker 3: same quarterback rating right now our past ratings.
Speaker 1: I don't like it, Yeah, I don't like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will be honest with you. I don't like it.
Speaker 1: But I think that'll change.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Let's get to some of the listener questions from Tuesday
Speaker 1: and then from today.
Speaker 2: Joe asked, how was the steakhouse opening? Nick? Did you
Speaker 2: meet Taylor? Did you meet Taylor?
Speaker 1: No? So I went Friday. It was great. It was
Speaker 1: really really good. They did an awesome job. It's like
Speaker 1: a traditional steakhouse with a bunch of Chiefs or Kansas
Speaker 1: City kind of flares to it, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really cool. It's the same restaurant group that owns Toka Madera,
Speaker 1: which you may you know they have restaurants in a
Speaker 1: few cities, but I know the one in Aria. Friday,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were, I know Patrick was going to be there.
Speaker 1: They ended up not going Friday. They went Sunday for
Speaker 1: Patrick's birthday with he and Travis and Taylor and Brittany
Speaker 1: and all of them. So I was not there for that,
Speaker 1: So no, I did not. I did not get to
Speaker 1: meet Taylor. That would have been nice, but I did not.
Speaker 3: All right, now, I saw your I saw that Mahomes
Speaker 3: tribute birthday video for a second when I got to
Speaker 3: a minute and a half, and I was like, is
Speaker 3: is he going to be in here?
Speaker 2: Is he not going to be?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, And then you came up with like
Speaker 2: two minute market.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chiefs released like a five minute happy Birthday
Speaker 1: to Mahomes video with a bunch of people being a
Speaker 1: part of it.
Speaker 2: I was a part of that. That's right.
Speaker 3: Oh so, Nico asked, if Herbert continues playing like this
Speaker 3: but he loses his first playoff game, does his stock
Speaker 3: rise into the elite level or does he drop with
Speaker 3: what would be a considerable sample of bad January.
Speaker 1: Play Listen, if Herbert keeps this up and then loses
Speaker 1: his first playoff game, that's a disaster. Like Herbert right
Speaker 1: now is firmly in the MVP conversation, like the I
Speaker 1: actually think that's worse than just a bad season, like,
Speaker 1: because I think you are right so that that would
Speaker 1: be a worst case scenario for Herbert and Herbert and
Speaker 1: Danny Parkins and Herbert fans. All right, let's get some
Speaker 1: of the questions from today.
Speaker 3: Uh, Kafreaka asked, would Kansas City rather lose to the
Speaker 3: Giants and beat Baltimore or beat the Giants and lose
Speaker 3: to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I mean, you'd rather lose to the Giants and beat
Speaker 1: Baltimore because it's a cross conference game. But I can't.
Speaker 1: I won't be able to stomach the idea that they
Speaker 1: lose to the Giants, Like I can't even I can't
Speaker 1: even deal with that idea. All right, last.
Speaker 3: One, Jason says, Nick, you joked on the show yesterday
Speaker 3: that the Chiefs game this week would be a shave
Speaker 3: your head game. We actually shave your head if the
Speaker 3: Chiefs lose.
Speaker 1: It's very controversial because the no one close to me
Speaker 1: wants me to go back to my old haircut except
Speaker 1: for your mother, Demanse.
Speaker 2: And like all like Mike buzzcut.
Speaker 1: Close to it. Yeah and uh, and I'm getting a
Speaker 1: little tired of the hair. But it is at this point.
Speaker 1: It would be a lot of work for a lot
Speaker 1: of people if I were to do it, because we
Speaker 1: have to redo all of the first things, first commercials,
Speaker 1: all of the head shots, we have to rebrand every
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of like pot committed to this hairstyle now,
Speaker 1: So I don't know the I would like to go
Speaker 1: back to it.
Speaker 2: Chiefs super Bowl as you've been growing this hair out.
Speaker 1: That part's true. Yeah, you know you know what. That
Speaker 1: part's true. So I don't know what it is. I've
Speaker 1: been trying to get Wilds to make a shave your
Speaker 1: head bat because he would be so devastated if you
Speaker 1: have to shave his and I wouldn't mind, but he
Speaker 1: won't do it, all right, I would like that would
Speaker 1: be unbelievable. Wild with a skin fade like rate. Subscribe
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