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Speaker 2: When I say NFL Draft, first thing that comes to
Speaker 2: mind as what.
Speaker 4: Well probably probably my own draft experience. You know that
Speaker 4: it's a it's a it's become an even crazier time,
Speaker 4: I think for these guys, just because there's so much
Speaker 4: there's so much hype leading into it, with the way
Speaker 4: that the media encircles it, and also the fact that
Speaker 4: we've dedicated now the first round to kind of a
Speaker 4: primetime slot, you know, and so everybody descends on a
Speaker 4: town like Green Bay, which I love the fact that
Speaker 4: we have a chance to come and highlight some of
Speaker 4: the great you know, venues and meccas of football where
Speaker 4: you play. Draft, you know, I was, it was. It
Speaker 4: was in New York, so this is two thousand and one.
Speaker 4: I chose not to go, just wanted to stay in
Speaker 4: West Lafayette at Purdue, had my wife, my brother, our dog,
Speaker 4: and we just fried up some fish and watch the draft.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't. It wasn't because look, there was a
Speaker 4: lot of speculation. I think for me, I hoped I
Speaker 4: would go in the first round. I think it was
Speaker 4: about ten or twelve teams that I thought were strong possibilities,
Speaker 4: with the Miami Dolphins sitting at pick number twenty six,
Speaker 4: where basically had gotten a guarantee from my head coach
Speaker 4: Joe Tiller. He said, Hey, one of my best friends
Speaker 4: is a scout for the Dolphins. If you're there at
Speaker 4: twenty six, they're taking you, right. So I kind of
Speaker 4: had that as like my stop might stopped at Like, hey,
Speaker 4: I'm no matter what happens, Hey, I got Jacksonville here,
Speaker 4: I got Kansas City, got this, I got that twenty
Speaker 4: six comes. You know, I've just walked over to the phone,
Speaker 4: you know, Dolphins are gonna call, and they didn't call.
Speaker 4: They drafted Jamar Fletcher Wisconsin, who picked me off about
Speaker 4: three times in college. I was like, ah, it's probably
Speaker 4: a good pick, and then obviously fell to the second
Speaker 4: round and was drafted by the San Diego Chargers, which
Speaker 4: was the greatest thing that could have happened to me
Speaker 4: because I had a chance to go play with Doug
Speaker 4: Flutie Ladani and Thomason Lorenzo O'Neil Junior sal Rodney Harrison,
Speaker 4: some of the greatest in my opinion ever played the
Speaker 4: game at their positions, and also get coached by Marty Schottenheimer.
Speaker 2: But Okay, you probably played with the chip on your
Speaker 2: shoulder Perdue. I'm guessing, Oh yeah, played with a chip
Speaker 2: on your shoulder.
Speaker 3: In the NFL.
Speaker 4: That's been a lifetime thing.
Speaker 3: Do you still have a chip on your shoulder?
Speaker 4: No? I mean, look, it's I'm more about proving the
Speaker 4: people who believe in you're right as opposed to proven
Speaker 4: the others wrong. At the end of the day, I've
Speaker 4: always felt like playing quarterback position at six feet tall.
Speaker 4: You know, look, I don't know what it's like to
Speaker 4: play it at six', five, Right you, know so so to.
Speaker 3: Hear all of.
Speaker 4: THAT i, mean, LOOK i heard that coming out of high.
Speaker 4: School you, know six, foot one hundred and seventy. Pounds you,
Speaker 4: know you're not the prototype. Guy you, know we're not
Speaker 4: going to recruse. You but that's Why Doug flutie was
Speaker 4: such an inspiration me and such a mentor for. Me you,
Speaker 4: know he was the starting quarterback WHEN i got to
Speaker 4: The San Diego, chargers and it Was he's probably one
Speaker 4: of the biggest influences on my.
Speaker 3: Career and he made you feel. Tall, Look flutie Was
Speaker 3: mahomes Before mahomes.
Speaker 4: EXACTLY i was the tallest guy in the quarterback room
Speaker 4: in two thousand and. One it Was Doug flutie at
Speaker 4: five to. Nine he'll tell you five ten and a.
Speaker 4: Half he's full of. It it's five to, nine all.
Speaker 4: Right and Then Dave, dickinson who was A cfl, legend
Speaker 4: came down played a couple of years in THE nfl
Speaker 4: and now he's the head coach in THE cfl. Still
Speaker 4: so those are the two other guys in the. Room
Speaker 4: double d was five ten and a half and then
Speaker 4: SO i was six. Foot so we were the six
Speaker 4: foot in underclub we were not not real, imposing walking
Speaker 4: out winning any pregame, competition walking around on the. Field but,
Speaker 4: Man i'll tell you What Fluty flutie could sling.
Speaker 3: It he he he he was ahead of his.
Speaker 2: Time could you imagine him playing now where they would
Speaker 2: have encouraged him to Be Doug flutie At Boston?
Speaker 4: College he would he he'd be one of the most
Speaker 4: celebrated quarterbacks. Ever, YEAH i mean he. Was he was
Speaker 4: throwing back shoulders before everybody was throwing back. Shoulders the
Speaker 4: guy would back pedal a seven step drop from under.
Speaker 4: Center when's the last time you saw? That, well they,
Speaker 4: don't they. Don't theyn't take we don't take snaps under center?
Speaker 4: Anymore what AM i talking? About but, no he, was he.
Speaker 4: Was he was well ahead of his time and in my,
Speaker 4: opinion one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time that
Speaker 4: will never get it through.
Speaker 3: Credit he.
Speaker 2: Does but do you think we should go back to
Speaker 2: under center because it does give more deception with and play,
Speaker 2: action and you, know when you're in the, gun it
Speaker 2: just seems like we're taking away a little mystery that
Speaker 2: maybe you could incorporate or.
Speaker 3: Reincorporate you DO.
Speaker 4: I think if. YOU i think if you, talked if
Speaker 4: you talk to running, backs you know the only. Way first,
Speaker 4: off being under center gives you really a two way
Speaker 4: threat in the run, game, right because the back is
Speaker 4: in what we call the home positions right behind the.
Speaker 4: Quarterback so we can go, right he can go, left
Speaker 4: he can go inside and go. Outside the minute you
Speaker 4: go in, shotgun what does the back, do, well he
Speaker 4: has to offset one. DIRECTION a lot of times defenses
Speaker 4: set their, front set their defense based on where the
Speaker 4: back is, aligned because typically he's going to come across
Speaker 4: the quarterback in order to take the, handoff and then
Speaker 4: THE qb will have some sort OF rpo, read, Hey
Speaker 4: i'm reading the defensive. End if he, Crashes i'm pulling
Speaker 4: it Or i'm dishing it out. Here so it tells
Speaker 4: the defense a lot about where the ball is going
Speaker 4: to be. Run the only way to combat that is
Speaker 4: to put the back and, pistol which is directly behind. You,
Speaker 4: well the back has a hard time seeing when he's
Speaker 4: directly behind the quarterback, right so there's some problems, there
Speaker 4: and your passing game isn't as good because the back
Speaker 4: involved in protection has a hard time getting around you
Speaker 4: to pick up a blitzing. Linebacker that might be his.
Speaker 4: Responsibility so that's why like being under. Center, yes it
Speaker 4: stresses the. Defense, yes it really helps with play. Action
Speaker 4: watch the reaction of linebackers when you go under center
Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you give some sort of playfake,
Speaker 4: man they have to react to, it and you open
Speaker 4: up a lot of kind of the deeper intermediate. Stuff
Speaker 4: so LIKE i, watch you, know last year The Pittsburgh
Speaker 4: steelers With Russell. WILSON i think that's one of his great.
Speaker 4: Strengths go under center and they want to run the,
Speaker 4: ball run the, ball play great, defense all play, action
Speaker 4: and then Let russ chuck. It and they were really
Speaker 4: successful doing. That Sean payton likes doing. That you watch
Speaker 4: the evolution of The broncos offense throughout the year With Bo.
Speaker 4: NICKS i Think bo got more and more comfortable going under.
Speaker 4: Center it helped the run, Game it helped the play,
Speaker 4: action and therefore helped their.
Speaker 3: Team do you want to be a quarterbacks?
Speaker 4: COACH i MEAN i am. ANYWAY i MEAN I i
Speaker 4: coach kids throughout the, year mentor kids throughout the. Year No.
Speaker 3: O'll.
Speaker 4: Come, well it's it more so all the all the
Speaker 4: other THINGS i could. Do look BECAUSE i can still
Speaker 4: get the same thing. Accomplished uh but without you, know.
Speaker 3: Dedicated dedicated to one.
Speaker 4: TEAM i MEAN I i have the chance to to
Speaker 4: mentor and coach a lot of.
Speaker 2: Guys we're talking To Drew, brees The hall Of. Famer you,
Speaker 2: know when you start to look at the draft and
Speaker 2: then we tend to build you up and then we
Speaker 2: tear you. Down So Shador, sanders he's gonna be taken
Speaker 2: a top five, pick and then all of a, sudden
Speaker 2: then he has a bad interview or holds onto the
Speaker 2: ball too, long like it's just kind of. Nitpicking you know.
Speaker 2: That do you understand the whole philosophy of. That we
Speaker 2: can't just say somebody is really, good it's really, good
Speaker 2: but because that's not GOOD tv to just, say, man
Speaker 2: that guy's, great can't.
Speaker 3: Miss all you.
Speaker 4: Need is one guy to love, you or one, team
Speaker 4: or one coach or one. Scout you, know just in
Speaker 4: the history of, sports you, know how often have we heard,
Speaker 4: that you, know with certain guys for whatever, reason all
Speaker 4: these other teams just didn't see it or didn't believe.
Speaker 4: It and yet there's that one person on that one.
Speaker 4: TEAM i want coach on that one team or that
Speaker 4: one scout who just stands up on the table for
Speaker 4: the guy and it's, Like i'm telling you he's got,
Speaker 4: Something we got, It we got to take, him and
Speaker 4: then the rest is. History and that's that's All Shudur sanders.
Speaker 2: Needs but If shador Wasn't Dion, Sun, like does it
Speaker 2: help him or does it hurt?
Speaker 3: Him, Well, Look.
Speaker 4: I've never seen more, hype never seen more hype in
Speaker 4: an off season than than what kind of has encircled
Speaker 4: Should Or sanders And Travis, hunter you, Know and SO
Speaker 4: i think obviously a lot of that has come from
Speaker 4: you know what What prime has brought To colorado and
Speaker 4: kind of this process through the off season for those.
Speaker 4: Guys but also it's, look it's it's the way that
Speaker 4: they kind of build the lead up to the.
Speaker 5: Draft.
Speaker 4: NOW i mean there's more coverage on, this and there's
Speaker 4: more talk on, this there's more analysis on this than
Speaker 4: there ever has. Been and, look these, guys these guys
Speaker 4: are great. Players now it's just a matter of where they.
Speaker 2: Go, well they're looking for a. HEADLINE i, mean we're
Speaker 2: in the entertainment. Business what can we, sell what's? Controversial
Speaker 2: Should Or Sanders Travis. Hunter the only controversy is is
Speaker 2: he going to be a wide? Receiver is he going
Speaker 2: to be a defensive? Back can he be?
Speaker 3: Both? Well do you think that he can be both
Speaker 3: in THE nfl at the same.
Speaker 4: TIME i, mean that's that's really that's really, difficult just
Speaker 4: the sheer number of STAPs, snaps the physicality of the.
Speaker 2: Game but would you want your wide receiver playing defensive? Back,
Speaker 2: no you want would you want your defensive back playing wide?
Speaker 3: Receiver defensive coaches would say.
Speaker 4: No BUT i, MEAN i think the probably the greater
Speaker 4: reality is you, know if if obviously having an elite,
Speaker 4: CORNER i, know just from my, perspective like a lot
Speaker 4: of the, times the the, uh the thing that you
Speaker 4: you would find is a weakness in a defense is,
Speaker 4: hey there's that ONE dB right That I'm i'm trying
Speaker 4: to Attack and in a lot of, cases, man you
Speaker 4: could be so sound at the other ten, positions but
Speaker 4: the minute you've got the one guy that you found
Speaker 4: to pick on that that can make a huge difference
Speaker 4: in your success in the. Game so if if he
Speaker 4: him playing defense helps fill one of those gaps or
Speaker 4: voids or weaknesses on a defense, man that's where he's
Speaker 4: going to, play and then you supplement him on offense
Speaker 4: for specialty type. Stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah but, LOOK i.
Speaker 4: MEAN i was amazed at what the guy did in
Speaker 4: college playing one hundred and forty fifty sixty snaps a.
Speaker 4: GAME i mean that's, crazy you, know and as a
Speaker 4: as a twenty year old, kid it's. Doable as a
Speaker 4: twenty five twenty eight, YEAH i, mean at some, point you, know,
Speaker 4: hey he's going to be relegated to one side of
Speaker 4: the ball with contributions potentially on the other. SIDE i
Speaker 4: think the most realistic thing, is, man he's A he
Speaker 4: either comes out and, says, Man i'm just playing receiver
Speaker 4: or he's gonna PLAY, dB and then he's going to
Speaker 4: supplement a little bit on.
Speaker 2: Offense, yeah but we're in the Show Heyo tani World,
Speaker 2: Now so NOW i get a two way. Guy marketing
Speaker 2: people are going to come out and see. Him he's
Speaker 2: the guy who can't miss in this, draft the unicorn with,
Speaker 2: THIS i never understand that there's there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: couple Of hall Of famers in this. Draft it feels,
Speaker 2: like but we'll take our chances on. Court so if You're,
Speaker 2: tennessee would you Take Travis hunter because he can't miss
Speaker 2: and he gives you that two, way he gives you
Speaker 2: That otani. Effect or do you take a chance On Cam?
Speaker 4: Moore ask me ten.
Speaker 5: Years from that.
Speaker 2: When you get when you would go in the film,
Speaker 2: session would you guys, go that's the guy we're picking
Speaker 2: on On, sunday like?
Speaker 3: Collectively? Okay so absolutely? Yeah and what was his?
Speaker 4: Name you, know it's like we want to Tag Like
Speaker 4: i'll give an. Example, man we were playing the we
Speaker 4: were playing The chargers twenty twenty On Monday Night, football and,
Speaker 4: man we had been struggling throughout the. Game, IRONICALLY i
Speaker 4: LITERALLY i tore my planner fascia in my foot in.
Speaker 4: Pregame this is the dumbest thing, ever, Right, so like
Speaker 4: all of a, SUDDEN i went from being able to
Speaker 4: move really well to not being able to move at.
Speaker 4: ALL i was just totally relegated to the. Pocket so
Speaker 4: Is Monday Night football twenty twenty at our. Place we
Speaker 4: get down seventeen, points we're kind of chipping our way,
Speaker 4: back but it's just one of these like we're slugging
Speaker 4: it out and we're not doing much on, offense and
Speaker 4: they just had a great defensive plan for, Us, well
Speaker 4: one of their elite corners went, out like early fourth,
Speaker 4: quarter and they brought in their backup, guy And i'm, like,
Speaker 4: dude that's all we. Needed i'm just gonna sit here
Speaker 4: and throw it at this dude every single, time and
Speaker 4: sure enough we. Did we end up going on two scoring.
Speaker 4: Drives we win the game in. Overtime but, literally if
Speaker 4: that doesn't, happen we probably don't win the. Game but
Speaker 4: it's just like there's a lot of, these you, know
Speaker 4: you're you're just kind of in real time what's happened
Speaker 4: in the, game and all of a sudden they lose a,
Speaker 4: guy or all of a sudden something happens that just
Speaker 4: changes a scheme or gives you a matchup that you
Speaker 4: like and you.
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Speaker 4: that aren't moving real, good but they got some quick.
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Speaker 3: Day do you have any good memories of Blambeau? FIELD i, do.
Speaker 4: Sure we Played we played here in, six the second
Speaker 4: game of the. Year so this, is you, know the
Speaker 4: beginning of The Sean payton, era you, know not knowing
Speaker 4: what kind of a team we were gonna. Have obviously
Speaker 4: the coming back to you, know after Post katrina, year
Speaker 4: so magical. Season we ended up going going down thirteen
Speaker 4: points to these guys in the first. Quarter three, turnovers
Speaker 4: two of them were. Mine ended up coming back and beating,
Speaker 4: them you, know in the fourth, quarter and so that
Speaker 4: was kind of a, HUGE i think moral victory for,
Speaker 4: us just feeling like, we you, know gaining. Momentum and
Speaker 4: then the next game was The monday night football, game
Speaker 4: returned to The dome At lease in block, punt so
Speaker 4: that was a big win for. Us twenty, eleven we
Speaker 4: came and played them here and that was The thursday
Speaker 4: night football game after they had won The Super, bowl
Speaker 4: and that was a bit of a juggernaut. Contest it
Speaker 4: was a. SHOOTOUT i Think aaron AND i both threw
Speaker 4: for four hundred yards and they beat. Us but we
Speaker 4: had a goal line stand right at the end where
Speaker 4: we're going to we're gonna jump in and tie. It
Speaker 4: we hand it to Mark ingram and then they just
Speaker 4: stop us right right at the goal. Line so we get.
Speaker 4: Beat and then they finished fifteen and one that. Year
Speaker 4: we were thirteen and. Three BUT i thought we were
Speaker 4: the two best teams in the league that.
Speaker 3: Year, YEAH i was here for that. Game that was
Speaker 3: not a, controversy ending was. It it was just.
Speaker 4: No not at, all just a, hard hard fought. Game
Speaker 4: we drove down with about fifty two seconds left to
Speaker 4: try to tie it and send it to, ot But
Speaker 4: aaron played lights. Out you, KNOW i felt like we,
Speaker 4: Played we played pretty well and it was just one
Speaker 4: of those heavyweight.
Speaker 3: Matches best quarterback performance you ever witnessed.
Speaker 4: Man the first one that came to mind WAS i
Speaker 4: played Against Peyton manning and The colts in two thousand
Speaker 4: and four in the game Where peyton Broke Dan marino's
Speaker 4: single season touchdown, mark so he threw touchdown number forty
Speaker 4: nine back When dan had the record at forty. Eight
Speaker 4: and we were we. Played first of, all we were
Speaker 4: heavy underdogs in this. GAME i was with The. Chargers
Speaker 4: we come play The colts and we just. Play we
Speaker 4: play so lights, out so lights, out and we're Beating
Speaker 4: we're we're winning by seven going in to the final
Speaker 4: drive And peyton this is the this is the game
Speaker 4: where it gets to fourth down And peyton sends the
Speaker 4: punt team off the field the first time that. Happens,
Speaker 4: no this isn't an overtime. Yet, okay but they beat
Speaker 4: us in overtime thirty four to thirty. One BUT i
Speaker 4: think we're winning thirty one twenty, four two minutes and something.
Speaker 4: Left it's one of those questionable, like, ah do we punt?
Speaker 4: It do? We but they're deep in their, territory you.
Speaker 4: Know doungee sends the punt team, out he sends them,
Speaker 4: back you, know and then and then rips a back
Speaker 4: shoulder To Reggie wayne on our. Sideline it was one
Speaker 4: of those LIKE i saw it, coming you, know and
Speaker 4: then yet there's still there's nothing you can do about,
Speaker 4: it mainly Because i'm a quarterback And i'm on the.
Speaker 4: Sideline i'm not PLAYING.
Speaker 3: Tv BUT i knew it's. COMING i was, like that's
Speaker 3: WHERE i would have.
Speaker 4: Gone rips a back shoulder Of Reggie way boot boot
Speaker 4: methodical down the. Field and Then Brandon stokely is in
Speaker 4: the slot over, here and we're in cover, two so
Speaker 4: two high, safeties and he looks over here and he
Speaker 4: gives this signal to this left side and this is
Speaker 4: like the universal singer for smash and a smash combination
Speaker 4: is hitch with a.
Speaker 3: Corner but he was doing it so emphatically.
Speaker 4: That i'm, like, ah something's up. Here he wants the
Speaker 4: safety to see smash, Smash so the safety over plays
Speaker 4: the corner And stokely runs up and gives it a.
Speaker 4: Nod crosses the safety's, Face peyton hits him right in the.
Speaker 4: Chest touchdown ties the, game touchdown number forty, nine and
Speaker 4: then they get the ball in, overtime go right down the,
Speaker 4: field kick a, field go and beat. Us so just
Speaker 4: just a, hoole send them off the. FIELD i got
Speaker 4: this coach back shoulder Of. Reggie wayne smash sick right
Speaker 4: and gets his stowt and beats. US i was, Like Peyton, manning.
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Speaker 3: Something it's cold out.
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Speaker 6: Cold i'm JUST i don't leave, home so being outside
Speaker 6: it's a little. Cold this isn't. Cold this is. Cold for,
Speaker 6: me where do you? LIVE i live in Southern. Missouri
Speaker 6: it's like eighty degrees.
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Speaker 6: a football, nerd this IS i always SAID i wouldn't
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Speaker 2: Altogether but how much pressure do you feel when you
Speaker 2: put out a mock?
Speaker 3: Draft this is your.
Speaker 2: Job you're at the Mother ship and trying to live
Speaker 2: up to you, know Mel kiper and everybody else that
Speaker 2: YOU i don't know if you compete, with but you
Speaker 2: know you compliment each.
Speaker 6: Other So i'd never thought of it like. That so
Speaker 6: now there's a lot more pressure. Now i've never been, like,
Speaker 6: oh IF i put this out and it's not, Good
Speaker 6: kuiper's going to be, like never, mind get that kid
Speaker 6: off my. Desk but there is, PRESSURE i think. Obviously you,
Speaker 6: KNOW i spent ten years Of Bleacher. Report that's even
Speaker 6: different THAN espn because IT'S espn and you guys have been,
Speaker 6: there you, know it's like everything you say is under
Speaker 6: a different, Microscope so there is a lot of.
Speaker 5: Pressure with mock.
Speaker 6: Drafts you basically get to a point where you're never
Speaker 6: gonna like, it but you just get comfortable with. It
Speaker 6: so my last one came out yesterday, afternoon AND i
Speaker 6: finally sent it to the editors and was, LIKE i
Speaker 6: don't want to mess with this. Anymore let's just get
Speaker 6: it out there BECAUSE i could make. PICKS i could
Speaker 6: change picks until tonight at six fifty five IF i wanted,
Speaker 6: To so at some point you just wash your hands
Speaker 6: of it and hand it.
Speaker 3: In what's the pick that could change the first?
Speaker 6: Round, WELL i Think ashton genty going five To.
Speaker 5: Jacksonville But i'll back up a little.
Speaker 6: BIT i still think there's a five percent Chance Shador
Speaker 6: sanders goes three to The. GIANTS i don't feel great about,
Speaker 6: it AND i wouldn't put it in a mock draft
Speaker 6: BECAUSE i think it's a minute.
Speaker 5: Possibility but you have to account for the fact.
Speaker 6: That an owner could hop in and, say, hey you know,
Speaker 6: what take the quarterback. Here SO i Think schador at
Speaker 6: three would shake up the, draft not THAT i am expecting,
Speaker 6: it but gent To jacksonville five would would be a
Speaker 6: pretty big wild.
Speaker 2: Card, yeah it feels like somebody's trading. Up and my
Speaker 2: source said that somebody's trading, up and he, goes who
Speaker 2: are you trading up? For and he Thought genty's the
Speaker 2: only guy who's sort of a wild card with this
Speaker 2: of he's an impactful, guy and we'd, NOW i, guess
Speaker 2: reassess the running back position and he's. Back you know
Speaker 2: when somebody says He's Emmett smith with, Speed, okay you.
Speaker 6: Got my attention with. That, Yeah AND i do think
Speaker 6: in this class there's very few blue chip. Players so
Speaker 6: where you could, say, okay we Have Travis, hunter we
Speaker 6: Have Abdul. Carter the next best player on my board
Speaker 6: Is Ashton, Genty so thank, You Sakwon. Barkley now these
Speaker 6: running backs are being valued, again and SO i think
Speaker 6: there is that element of especially if you think About,
Speaker 6: jacksonville you have a first time general, manager first time head.
Speaker 6: Coach you really want your first pick to be a.
Speaker 6: HIT i remember talking To scott mccluhan about that when
Speaker 6: he took The washington. Job so the first pick needs
Speaker 6: to be a. Hit they Took Brandon, shirf who was
Speaker 6: a guard From. Iowa he played in THE nfl for thirteen.
Speaker 6: Years he was a really good player for. Them so
Speaker 6: instead of swinging for the, fences sometimes you just need
Speaker 6: that first pick to be a starter that you can
Speaker 6: point to your owner and, say, no the guy we. Picked,
Speaker 6: look he's out there Every. Sunday he's making an impact for.
Speaker 6: Us no one in this draft is going to make
Speaker 6: a Bigger year one impact Than Ashton.
Speaker 2: Genty how DO i know when you don't like a
Speaker 2: player when you put him in your mock.
Speaker 3: Draft that's a good.
Speaker 6: QUESTION i think when you don't like a, player you
Speaker 6: probably talk about it's more about the projection of how
Speaker 6: they could be good instead of here's HOW i. Know
Speaker 6: like WHEN i talk About Abdul, carter you get, excited you,
Speaker 6: know you get energetic about what he brings to the
Speaker 6: when you talk about somebody you, know second round OR
Speaker 6: i would even, Say i'm not the Biggest Shador sanders,
Speaker 6: fan and there's a difference WHEN i talk about, him
Speaker 6: because it's, well he could work if this, happens if
Speaker 6: he gets in the right, scheme if he gets somewhere
Speaker 6: where they have a run game and he can live
Speaker 6: off play. Action but he's not a you, know he's
Speaker 6: not a big. Guy he's not a traits. Guy he
Speaker 6: doesn't have the huge. Arm SO i think you start
Speaker 6: to talk yourself into it more when you don't like a.
Speaker 2: Player, Yeah i'm just it's weird how we can look
Speaker 2: at one positive but also make it a negative when people, go,
Speaker 2: man he's tough in the, pocket he takes, hits and
Speaker 2: then you'll, go, well maybe if he got rid of
Speaker 2: the ball sooner than he wouldn't take hold of those.
Speaker 6: Hits you would love him to be that tough and
Speaker 6: not be sacked ninety five. Times if he could be
Speaker 6: that tough and get sacked twenty. Times and it is
Speaker 6: interesting because from an analytics, standpoint quarterbacks who are sacked
Speaker 6: a lot in college get sacked a lot in THE,
Speaker 6: nfl and.
Speaker 3: That's what we don't.
Speaker 6: Want it is one of the, stats along with, fumbles
Speaker 6: that actually translates really well From saturdays To. Sunday so you're,
Speaker 6: right it's, like we love his toughness and that he's
Speaker 6: willing to stand in the, pocket but at the same,
Speaker 6: time at six,' one two, HUNDRED pounds i would much
Speaker 6: rather him get rid of the ball on time more.
Speaker 3: Likely to be a pro bowler or. A, Bust Sure.
Speaker 3: Dover sanders, oh gosh.
Speaker 6: That's tough this is gonna. GET clipped i, will say
Speaker 6: more likely to be. A bust but can you be
Speaker 6: a bust if you're picked at twenty one or? Thirty, three, well.
Speaker 2: Well okay what's the line of demarcation of you're a
Speaker 2: bust if you're taking in?
Speaker 3: This era do we?
Speaker 6: CALL it, I Guess, kenny pickett we would call bust
Speaker 6: because you were a quarterback in the first round and
Speaker 6: you're not, The starter so in that sense you would be,
Speaker 6: a bust but not in the Sense Of JaMarcus russell
Speaker 6: Or Or trey lance in, terms of, you know.
Speaker 5: A BUST so i think there's levels.
Speaker 6: To it, you know if you're drafted in the top
Speaker 6: ten and you don't become a long, term starter that's
Speaker 6: obviously a.
Speaker 5: Bad pick if he's.
Speaker 6: Drafted it if someone trades up and takes him at
Speaker 6: twenty six and he doesn't, work out it's NOT as
Speaker 6: I wouldn't i don't KNOW that i want to call that. A,
Speaker 6: Bust okay but why don't we call?
Speaker 3: Scouts bust? We should or GM's bus or.
Speaker 6: Draft guys we should all take.
Speaker 5: The, heat, no wait we. ABSOLUTELY should i.
Speaker 3: Think the players don't. Draft themselves.
Speaker 6: That's it i've made that. Point before so it's not the.
Speaker 6: Player's fault they. Were overdrafted. You know if a player.
Speaker 6: Gets Drafted trey lance is a, good example it's not.
Speaker 6: His fault he was drafted at number three after playing
Speaker 6: one game the.
Speaker 5: Year before and how do you?
Speaker 3: Miss on?
Speaker 2: You, trade okay so This Is kyle Shanahan And. John,
Speaker 2: LYNCH yeah i mean how.
Speaker 5: Do you miss?
Speaker 3: This badly you trade and you.
Speaker 6: You Find rock party and. Everyone, forgets yes that's. It
Speaker 6: works if they Didn't Get, rock purty they would, be
Speaker 6: fired you?
Speaker 3: Think?
Speaker 6: SO probably i mean it's Tough because Kyle. IS kyle
Speaker 6: i MEAN he's nfl royalty to, some degree but probably
Speaker 6: because what would be your answer? At quarterback they might
Speaker 6: still Be Playing trey lance at.
Speaker 2: This Point If rock purty was taken fifteenth instead of
Speaker 2: the last pick in, the draft would we have any
Speaker 2: issues with paying him fifty five?
Speaker 6: MILLION dollars i don't. THINK so i think they would
Speaker 6: would be, praised, as oh look they. Got it, you
Speaker 6: know they've hit on. This quarterback if He, Was, jones
Speaker 6: YEAH the narra would be. Completely different the fact that
Speaker 6: he's been To A, super bowl which That's not that's
Speaker 6: something a lot of quarterbacks can't say in this era
Speaker 6: that's been Dominated by Brady. And mahomes, SO yeah i
Speaker 6: don't think anyone would be and they probably would have
Speaker 6: paid him already had he been drafted, in fifteen because
Speaker 6: you always carry that first round tag with you if
Speaker 6: you're drafted in the first round forever you were a first.
Speaker 3: Round Pick He's.
Speaker 2: Matt miller HE'S AN espn nfl. Draft analyst he'll be
Speaker 2: working rounds four through seven With Mel, Kiper Rhys, Davis,
Speaker 2: field Yates And. Lewis riddick give me the mock draft
Speaker 2: that you're the, Proudest of like you know where you
Speaker 2: had somebody and you could take a.
Speaker 6: VICTORY left i don't KNOW if i. HAVE one i honestly.
Speaker 6: Mock drafts you get eight picks right and you feel great.
Speaker 6: ABOUT yourself i think two, YEARS ago I think i
Speaker 6: hit like nine of the nine picks in a row
Speaker 6: to start. The draft but that just means it was
Speaker 6: an unp like it was a. Predictable draft it's. Very,
Speaker 6: chalky yeah, ONE year i want to. DO it i
Speaker 6: want to go with the betting odds and do the
Speaker 6: mock draft and see how right it. Would BE but
Speaker 6: i also know that those lines change based off, mock
Speaker 6: draft so it might be, you know exercise.
Speaker 5: And futility but with, MOCK drafts.
Speaker 6: I mean it is truly if You get if you
Speaker 6: get ten, or eleven that's a.
Speaker 3: Great year have you had agents try to massage you
Speaker 3: a little bit there? WITH uh, i mean no'd be
Speaker 3: nice to.
Speaker 6: MY client i think because, YOU know i broke into
Speaker 6: this INDUSTRY when i was, really young AND so i
Speaker 6: think MORE so i have agents who feel like they
Speaker 6: can call me and tell me HOW wrong i am
Speaker 6: and HOW dumb, i am instead of, YOU know i
Speaker 6: think with some of the guys who were in the
Speaker 6: league and then came to the, Media side I'm sure
Speaker 6: kuyper doesn't get called by agents, who say you're. An
Speaker 6: idiot this guy's gonna go first round and you have
Speaker 6: him in. The second agents, are, funny though because they
Speaker 6: will do that until, this week and then they'll call, and,
Speaker 6: say so where do you think my guy's going? To go,
Speaker 6: you say, you know they want to know the draft range.
Speaker 6: This week last week you were an idiot for having
Speaker 6: their player in the second or third round? This, week
Speaker 6: hey what are you hearing about? My player so it's you.
Speaker 3: To take Why Is jalen milroe invited to? THE draft
Speaker 3: i don't that is a.
Speaker 6: GREAT question i don't think it's because he's going to be,
Speaker 6: picked tonight as fascinating as he is. A player i
Speaker 6: reminded people when that Happened That matt Correll And malik
Speaker 6: willis were also invited to. The draft there were third,
Speaker 6: Round picks so.
Speaker 5: At some point IN. The NFL the nfl is an.
Speaker 6: Entertainment business they want a, good story And if jalen
Speaker 6: milro is comfortable hanging Out In green bay for an,
Speaker 6: extra day he'll be the face of the draft.
Speaker 2: Tomorrow night teams that historically are not, good drafters who
Speaker 2: would you put at?
Speaker 6: THE top i thought you were gonna, name THEM so
Speaker 6: I Was. Brown's jets those are the two that come
Speaker 6: to mind. For ME and i tried to make a
Speaker 6: joke this morning on radio About the jets being bad at,
Speaker 6: the draft and PEOPLE thought i was. Predicting something, it's, like,
Speaker 6: no actually they're just traditionally they're not good.
Speaker 3: At it and THAT'S.
Speaker 6: Why i think you can Point to cleveland's been better as,
Speaker 6: Of late but there those are teams that are consistently
Speaker 6: picking in the, top five.
Speaker 5: Top ten they're there every year for.
Speaker 3: A reason, Seattle's great baltimore, Is Great green. Bay's Great, GREEN.
Speaker 5: Bay I think buffalo is.
Speaker 6: Is great, they're underrate but what's the? STRATEGY there i
Speaker 6: think they know their system well enough to know what
Speaker 6: type of player, works THERE and i had some consistency
Speaker 6: in their, coaching position so you know exactly, you know
Speaker 6: Like With, matt lafleur you know what he's looking for
Speaker 6: and you know where you can find. That value you
Speaker 6: Can Draft zach tom in the. Fifth round you don't
Speaker 6: have to spend a first round pick on an. Offensive
Speaker 6: tackle or we know they're not going to draft a
Speaker 6: receiver in the, first ROUND although i really hope they.
Speaker 6: Do tonight if you have the draft in, your hometown you.
Speaker 6: Should draft it should, be fun you should take. A
Speaker 6: RECEIVER but i think it does boil down To, like
Speaker 6: baltimore they've drafted the same player on defense for. Twenty
Speaker 6: years they know exactly what, works there and they just
Speaker 6: keep plugging those players and highly productive players from big
Speaker 6: colleges and look At the rams. Turn around they're doing.
Speaker 5: That too they're going highly.
Speaker 6: Productive players from powerful conferences and they've completely flipped that
Speaker 6: defense around After. Losing Aaron donald.
Speaker 2: Fritzi's A diehard. Bronco fan he found out this Morning
Speaker 2: the broncos have a first round.
Speaker 5: Draft, Pick, oh congress it's kind.
Speaker 3: OF sad i thought that they didn't have a first.
Speaker 3: Round pick for a couple days after that They Had russell.
Speaker 5: Wilson, deal, yeah no. You're back.
Speaker 6: You're back and they might be trading up is what
Speaker 6: everyone's saying today is they might be.
Speaker 5: Moving UP can i ask you a?
Speaker 3: Quick question you'll humor. Of me can We?
Speaker 7: See ashton can they trade up and Go From Boise
Speaker 7: state Bronco To?
Speaker 3: Denver bronco is that? Expecting to it'd.
Speaker 6: Be expensive do you want to spend two or three
Speaker 6: first round picks on a? Running back would be, the,
Speaker 6: question so especially in a deep running. Back draft but
Speaker 6: it would be funcos it would.
Speaker 5: Be, fun yeah they'd have put some blue turf Down
Speaker 5: in denver.
Speaker 3: For him it'd.
Speaker 2: Be great haven't they already done stupid things when they
Speaker 2: Brought In russell wilson.
Speaker 7: That didn't work out very well For To russell Wilson
Speaker 7: related Broncos Shirt.
Speaker 3: Cob webs how Does cam ward not? WORK out i
Speaker 3: think if he continues to.
Speaker 6: Be reckless you, KNOW what i think the biggest drawback
Speaker 6: for him is at times he believes in his own
Speaker 6: talent so much that he'll wait to, do things or
Speaker 6: he'll make throws that. He SHOULDN'T when i Look, at
Speaker 6: tennessee they have to add playmakers.
Speaker 5: Around him. He is he is a very good.
Speaker 6: Point guard but it's notable that his career got better
Speaker 6: when he Went to miami where he. Had players He Had,
Speaker 6: Elijah Royo, Xavier Rostrepo, Sam Brown. Damian martinez all those
Speaker 6: guys are going to be drafted. This weekend he didn't
Speaker 6: Do That, washington state despite the fact that He Had,
Speaker 6: kyle williams who's going to be a top one hundred
Speaker 6: draft pick. At RECEIVER so i think for Cam if
Speaker 6: tennessee doesn't surround him with playmakers and they expect him
Speaker 6: to Go Be jaden Daniels Or, patrick mahomes it's not who.
Speaker 6: He is he's much more of a distributor than. He is,
Speaker 6: you know this electric playmaker. He's not that's not really
Speaker 6: the type of player that he needs.
Speaker 2: To be but if you look at the, you know
Speaker 2: scouts and, draft analysts, they, say Well cam ward probably
Speaker 2: would have been the seventh quarterback taken.
Speaker 3: Last year, yeah right they have fifth.
Speaker 5: To, Seventh okay but.
Speaker 2: If that's, The Case travis hunter is the most unique
Speaker 2: football player maybe we'll. Ever, see yeah Why don't why
Speaker 2: don't you take that guy instead of taking the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in.
Speaker 6: This draft i've been saying that. AS well i WOULD
Speaker 6: that i Would Take abdul Carter Or. Travis hunter but
Speaker 6: when they didn't jump in the quarterback market and, free
Speaker 6: agency we knew where they. Were going because you can't
Speaker 6: roll another Year Of will levis. Out there that's that's.
Speaker 6: Not working and so we see this every. Year though
Speaker 6: teams talk themselves into. THEIR quarterbacks, I Mean fritzy's broncos,
Speaker 6: it worked but they talk Themselves into bonnicks and they
Speaker 6: were really backed into that corner of there's no other
Speaker 6: quarterback on, the board we're gonna have to.
Speaker 3: Take him it.
Speaker 6: Worked Out mac jones is an example of when that doesn't.
Speaker 6: Work out So cam ward is a. Good player he's
Speaker 6: my number fourteen overall player in. This draft so him
Speaker 6: going one is. Not relative no one has him ranked
Speaker 6: as the top player in, the draft at least of
Speaker 6: the Boards that i've seen from, my colleagues none of
Speaker 6: us have him as the. TOP player i know that
Speaker 6: anyone has him in the. Top five even give me
Speaker 6: your scolding hot take, for tonight, For tonight oh, THAT
Speaker 6: man i should have been prepared, for that my scolding.
Speaker 6: Hot take the defensive linemen are going to fly off the.
Speaker 6: Board tonight that's.
Speaker 3: Not, hot, no, no, no, okay, no no.
Speaker 6: No, Hotter yeah schador doesn't?
Speaker 5: Go tonight is?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 5: Hot, yeah, okay yeah we'll go. WITH that i think
Speaker 5: we see one, quarterback tonight unless there's.
Speaker 3: A Trade jackson dart. Didn't, go no as.
Speaker 6: MUCH as i would, love it Unless the giants come.
Speaker 6: BACK up i could. SEE that i could See the
Speaker 6: giants getting back in, for HIM but. I don't it's
Speaker 6: very hard to find a team That loves Shad, or,
Speaker 6: sanders yeah that loves enough to make him. The guy
Speaker 6: and Maybe, it's pittsburgh but there's got to be Some
Speaker 6: CANNY pickett, ptsd there, you know, from, like oh we
Speaker 6: tried this two, years ago it did three.
Speaker 5: Years ago it.
Speaker 6: Didn't work so that would be my my. Hot take
Speaker 6: do small.
Speaker 3: Hands matter with? YOUR quarterbacks i mean a?
Speaker 6: Little bit if you, have FUMBLES then i think you
Speaker 6: look at that, and say is their? Causation there, you
Speaker 6: know if you have a guy of, smaller Hands But
Speaker 6: patrick mahomes has nine, inch hands has held? Him back,
Speaker 6: IT also i think you want to look. At it
Speaker 6: if it's a player who has, fumble issues then you
Speaker 6: look at the hand size, and, say okay maybe, It, matters.
Speaker 3: Marvin hold up. Your hands if you had, a quarterback.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah those you're also not a big. Hand guy,
Speaker 6: you know a sub six footer has got to. Stick
Speaker 6: together so it's also, YOU know i don't know that
Speaker 6: What Was john elway's.
Speaker 5: HAND size i.
Speaker 6: Don't know It's Probably. Prye dece's he's a. Big guy
Speaker 6: But Like, joe montana.
Speaker 3: THAT'S what i brought that.
Speaker 2: AT her i think it's so SILLY that i don't remember,
Speaker 2: somebody saying, YOU know I just i don't know if
Speaker 2: you'll succeed hands Are Smaller joe namath or any.
Speaker 6: OF these i understand the irony of a person in
Speaker 6: my field, Saying This, but dan a lot of the
Speaker 6: things we talk About from january to now really.
Speaker 3: Don't matter you.
Speaker 5: KNOW what i just really they, don't matter, You KNOW
Speaker 5: and i get.
Speaker 3: Appreciate that but.
Speaker 2: Thank, you hey, You, Gotta phil it's you're in the
Speaker 2: machine At. The mothership, you gotta, you gotta, you know
Speaker 2: we gotta talk. About, something yes.
Speaker 3: Have fun, This. Weekend matt great to.
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Speaker 2: the COMMENT and i want to ask him about this
Speaker 2: where he Said That cleveland browns Are Taking travis hunter
Speaker 2: and that he would major an offense minor, in defense
Speaker 2: which which is opposite or counter TO what.
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Speaker 2: these are the. Bold Proclamations matt miller was just HERE
Speaker 2: the espn. Draft analysts he said his hot Take is
Speaker 2: Shaud or sanders not taken in the. First round so
Speaker 2: we'll have that so poll. Question here see.
Speaker 8: It's crazy to me That shadur can is either going
Speaker 8: like second or. Second, round yeahs no. Real, consensus yeah
Speaker 8: we have up there. Right NOW Better Nfl draft Day
Speaker 8: Trade jerry Rice Or patrick.
Speaker 3: MAHOMES dot i don't.
Speaker 2: Think people Remember That jerry rice was traded for By,
Speaker 2: the niners but everybody Remembers With.
Speaker 8: Patrick mahomes, right now the results of that are fifty three.
Speaker 8: FORTY seven i want To guess.
Speaker 2: I'm going, to Say because rice is the greatest receiver of,
Speaker 2: all time they.
Speaker 8: Would say him he would have forty, seven recently, but,
Speaker 8: Yeah Yeah. Patrick mahomes, right now it's been going a
Speaker 8: little closer to fifty, to fifty but right now he's
Speaker 8: ticking up at fifty.
Speaker 3: Three percent, all, right yeah.
Speaker 2: Good morning if you're Watching, on peacock our streaming partner
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Speaker 2: With you the scalding hot take for the draft is
Speaker 2: going to Be What.
Speaker 9: Tyler warren will be drafted By The New england patriots at.
Speaker 2: Number, Four Wow ben state? Tight, end, okay correct, All.
Speaker 9: Right jackson dart will go in the first round of. The,
Speaker 9: draft tonight.
Speaker 3: Okay To The.
Speaker 8: La, rams, okay, okay interesting, All.
Speaker 7: Right Todd, the broncos who unbknownst, to me have a
Speaker 7: first Round.
Speaker 2: You're the hot take Is the broncos have a first
Speaker 2: john draft pick and you didn't.
Speaker 3: Know it they will move.
Speaker 7: Up from the twenty spot tonight To select, ashton genty
Speaker 7: So A Boise state bronco Becomes To.
Speaker 3: Denver Bronco the.
Speaker 7: Cowboys move up from Twelve To Grant penn State Tighten,
Speaker 7: tyler warren hoping for The Neck jason witten Or J, novachek.
Speaker 3: Okay joined name drop it, uh seatan how?
Speaker 8: About you let's see tow a Tongue of ilo will
Speaker 8: be traded tonight to Either, The, saints giants Forty nine Ers.
Speaker 4: Or.
Speaker 3: Steelers WOW and.
Speaker 8: Nfl Sac Lader trey hendrickson will be, traded tonight okay
Speaker 8: to Either, The, packers Lions.
Speaker 5: Or commanders.
Speaker 2: Let's, Go, packers, yeah go, Pack go we'll pack go, ALL,
Speaker 2: RIGHT pauli.
Speaker 5: I think seaton's.
Speaker 10: Got this those are pretty. Pretty scalding i'm. Gonna Go
Speaker 10: the patriots trade the. Fourth pick they trade out at
Speaker 10: the fourth pick With. The Bears the bears have Ten
Speaker 10: the bears will trade up the four To Get, abduall
Speaker 10: carter who slips to the, fourth.
Speaker 3: Pick my, second one Less Warm jackson dart will.
Speaker 5: Go ninth To.
Speaker 3: The Saints day.
Speaker 2: Marvin's are. PRETTY good, I mean seaton's throwing in the
Speaker 2: too a tongue. OF ioloa, i mean. That's scalding And
Speaker 2: Then trey hendrickson Of the bengals gets traded.
Speaker 3: As well there's two big trades. Right there yeah, They, are. Yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah tonight.
Speaker 2: Why don't we bring in an, Expert Here kurt warner
Speaker 2: joining Us the Hall OF Famer nfl networks coverage first
Speaker 2: round of the draft coming up tonight at. Eight eastern
Speaker 2: as we make Way.
Speaker 3: For kurt warner on, A Program. Let's go.
Speaker 2: You, weren't Drafted but i'm wondering if you would had
Speaker 2: been the, last pick if you had been, mister irrelevant
Speaker 2: would that have worked against you more than just being
Speaker 2: a free agent where you would had that label that
Speaker 2: you would be mister irrelevant the rest of.
Speaker 3: Your career that's a.
Speaker 7: GREAT question i think the difference always becomes when you're picked,
Speaker 7: that late you have to go to the particular team that,
Speaker 7: drafted you where if you become a, free agent there's
Speaker 7: usually four or five different teams where you get the,
Speaker 7: opportunity to at least in your, mind, THINK oh i can.
Speaker 3: Pick and choose what the best situation is.
Speaker 7: For ME but i think as, a player you, always,
Speaker 7: think Well if, i'm drafted that gives me a better
Speaker 7: chance to make the team because they invested a pick.
Speaker 3: In ME but i.
Speaker 7: Don't know it didn't work out for me the way
Speaker 7: that it, you know as a, free Agent so i'm
Speaker 7: not sure it would have been much better.
Speaker 2: Either, way okay but how do you pick your team
Speaker 2: that you want to actually try to?
Speaker 3: MAKE well, i mean, FOR instance i Picked.
Speaker 7: THE packers i Picked The green, bay team and the
Speaker 7: REASON that i picked them was because they only had
Speaker 7: three quarterbacks on.
Speaker 3: The, roster now they were.
Speaker 7: Good quarterbacks in Far of Brunel And Debt Mura heisman.
Speaker 7: Trophy winner but my, mindset was if they're only going
Speaker 7: to invite four guys, TO camp i only have to
Speaker 7: beat out one, of them or if something happens or
Speaker 7: if one of these guys, is traded there's a better
Speaker 7: chance for me to make the team there then to
Speaker 7: go to A team I Think san diego at, the
Speaker 7: time had six guys coming, to camp and, you know
Speaker 7: being a free agent, Guy, like okay how many REPS
Speaker 7: am i going? To get what kind of CHANCE am
Speaker 7: i gonna get to make. The team so that was
Speaker 7: my mindset at, the time even though they were. Good,
Speaker 7: PLAYERS hey i FEEL like i have a better chance
Speaker 7: to get some reps and maybe SHOWCASE what i can
Speaker 7: DO if i went To.
Speaker 2: The packers how would you compare yourself when you got
Speaker 2: To the packers With What brett farv was doing at.
Speaker 3: The, TIME.
Speaker 7: Well i will say this is that lining up Next
Speaker 7: to Brett and Mark and tie every day in training
Speaker 7: camp or, you know during, THAT period i was more
Speaker 7: CONFIDENT when i LEFT that i could play IN the
Speaker 7: NFL because i felt my physical skills matched up to
Speaker 7: those GUYS that i KNEW were. Nfl Players but, brett was,
Speaker 7: you know it was early in, his stage, you know
Speaker 7: of being a starter.
Speaker 3: And becoming that guy IN.
Speaker 7: The NFL but i remember calling my family after seeing
Speaker 7: him for about, two Days and, i'm like this, Dude's
Speaker 7: different like this dude, is special EVEN though i don't
Speaker 7: think everybody knew it at the time because it was
Speaker 7: kind Of the brett fav, you know, spin around throw
Speaker 7: it up in. The air you have, these interceptions kind
Speaker 7: of these crazy. He plays when you saw him get
Speaker 7: between the lines and, play football he was he was
Speaker 7: different at.
Speaker 3: That time what was he like? In, PRACTICE.
Speaker 7: Well i could take you into the meeting rooms and
Speaker 7: so You know Steve, mary YUCCI who i work, with
Speaker 7: now was our.
Speaker 3: Quarterback, coach uh, you know those three guys.
Speaker 7: Are in the room and, you know oftentimes he would
Speaker 7: pull up tape and, he's, Like, okay brett tell me
Speaker 7: what the, play is and, you know, formation motion call
Speaker 7: his play, for Me and brett's like throwing Around all,
Speaker 7: HE'S like I don't i, don't, know mooch. You know
Speaker 7: and then and then ties There and tie just cleans
Speaker 7: it all up and he knows. It all he's just like.
Speaker 7: A coach but when You put brett between, the lines
Speaker 7: everything seemed to. Just, click like, YOU know i listened
Speaker 7: to him in the meeting Room and, i'm like oh,
Speaker 7: my gosh what are we gonna get on the. Practice
Speaker 7: field and then he goes on the practice field and
Speaker 7: it was just bang, Bang back like everything just seemed
Speaker 7: to make sense to him between. The lines but, you
Speaker 7: know he couldn't look, at it, you know the tape
Speaker 7: and recall, everything there but you give him a play
Speaker 7: call and let him, go playball and he was just
Speaker 7: it was just really.
Speaker 6: Really good when did you know you, had arrived like
Speaker 6: you you could be a, great player.
Speaker 3: A. Great, player.
Speaker 7: YEAH when i, say arrived, for me it was it
Speaker 7: was different with. My journey so in, ninety NINE when
Speaker 7: i became, the starter we actually had to buy the
Speaker 7: second week of, the season which they don't, do anymore
Speaker 7: but we had to buy the, second week so played
Speaker 7: the first week Against. The ravens me and my wife
Speaker 7: actually went back to her hometown to see, her FAMILY
Speaker 7: and i got a call when we were driving down
Speaker 7: the STREET that i was the player of the week
Speaker 7: IN the Nfl after, Week one and that was my moment, Where,
Speaker 7: LIKE okay i don't Know if i'm ever going to play.
Speaker 7: ANOTHER game i don't know where it goes, from here
Speaker 7: but for, ONE week i was the best player In
Speaker 7: The National football and that was kind of like my
Speaker 7: moment of after the, entire journey like all the THINGS that, i,
Speaker 7: BELIEVED see i, TOLD you i, told you at least for,
Speaker 7: ONE week i could be.
Speaker 3: That guy so that was kind of you get any
Speaker 3: moment you get. A, CERTIFICATE yeah I think. I heard
Speaker 3: i think maybe they gave you a papers AT every.
Speaker 5: I don't i don't have.
Speaker 7: Any idea the phone call was enough for me to
Speaker 7: just kind, of okay, all right we.
Speaker 3: Made it we're Talking To.
Speaker 2: Kurt warner he'll be on the draft coming up tonight
Speaker 2: at eight EASTERN On. Nfl network we spend so much
Speaker 2: time talking, about QUARTERBACKS and i was just Talking To,
Speaker 2: matt miller who's draft ANALYST. For Espn If, i'm tennessee
Speaker 2: WHY am i trying to get a QUARTERBACK when i
Speaker 2: can get the a guy who Is the otani OF
Speaker 2: the Nfl And. Travis hunter SO now i like the
Speaker 2: sure thing is? Right, there, Correct, Right okay i'm going
Speaker 2: to take a chance On, cam ward who at best
Speaker 2: would have been the fifth quarterback drafted.
Speaker 3: Last year so WHY am i? Doing?
Speaker 2: That why why WHY am i not patient? To go,
Speaker 2: We can we'll find.
Speaker 7: Our quarterback cause it's as simple as if you don't,
Speaker 7: have one you don't have. A chance i, Mean that
Speaker 7: that's that's the way it is IN the nfl outside of,
Speaker 7: you know barring one of those unique situations where you
Speaker 7: have an incredible defense and an unbelievable, run game and
Speaker 7: your quarterback can be a. Complementary piece it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 7: Very often and so it's why. We reach it's why
Speaker 7: we talk, about quarterbacks because if you don't, have one
Speaker 7: you don't have, a chance and especially if you're LOOKING
Speaker 7: the afc right now with way the way that's going
Speaker 7: and all the players that you. Have there and so
Speaker 7: that's why, you know at, THIS pick i agree, with, You,
Speaker 7: like okay we've got guys that we know are going
Speaker 7: to BE good, nfl Players cam ward really good.
Speaker 3: College player we.
Speaker 7: Don't know but that's exactly why you have to take,
Speaker 7: the chance is because you just know you don't have
Speaker 7: an opportunity to win. Without it AND then i think
Speaker 7: that the second factor is we have no. Patience anymore
Speaker 7: we have, no patients not just, for quarterback we have
Speaker 7: no patience.
Speaker 3: For coaches and.
Speaker 7: So these, Coaches, KNOW okay i can go build a
Speaker 7: roster for, somebody else BECAUSE if i don't have a
Speaker 7: quarterback for three or, Four years i'm gone and somebody
Speaker 7: else is going to come in and be able to
Speaker 7: use all THESE pieces. I have so you go and
Speaker 7: you try to get that guy that you think has
Speaker 7: a chance to be a special player, for you KNOWING
Speaker 7: if i find, that guy he gives us a chance
Speaker 7: every time, we play and then we go and build.
Speaker 2: AROUND him i had one of my greatest moments in,
Speaker 2: my career and it happened During Your super Bowl. With
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh because i'm going to hand out. The trophy i'm
Speaker 2: on the Sidelines and I'm With. Steve Young So steve
Speaker 2: young is with Me as ben comes onto, the Field
Speaker 2: And steve young is doing play by play and. Color
Speaker 2: like so he's telling me From a Hall of fame
Speaker 2: Perspective what ben, is doing what they.
Speaker 3: Should do so he's doing this all the way down.
Speaker 2: The Sidelines now i'm, Still thinking i'm handing out the
Speaker 2: trophy to, you guys and then all of, a sudden,
Speaker 2: you Know so steve is going this is this, IS crazy,
Speaker 2: I mean ben is this. Is unbelievable and then he
Speaker 2: throws the touchdown pass and, he said. YOU can't, i
Speaker 2: mean we don't make. THOSE throw i mean that's not
Speaker 2: normal to make. That throw so when you're watching all
Speaker 2: of this as, a quarterback you're, probably, saying well WHAT would?
Speaker 2: I do or, you know put yourself in. That position,
Speaker 2: i'm guessing at what point did you realize you were?
Speaker 7: IN trouble I mean I realized i was in trouble
Speaker 7: when he threw the curl route to the right hand
Speaker 7: Side and antonio took it for about seventy, you know
Speaker 7: like all we're thinking on, you know on our, sideline is,
Speaker 7: you know we've got the lead at, that point.
Speaker 3: Hold them to a field goal.
Speaker 7: At worst so we're going into overtime because we had
Speaker 7: kind of taken the momentum at, that point and so
Speaker 7: our whole mindset is just you don't give up the,
Speaker 7: big play like keep everything in front. Of you and
Speaker 7: then it was right off the bat when you throw
Speaker 7: a curl and he spins and and, you know sets
Speaker 7: them up inside the. Red zone and THAT'S when, i
Speaker 7: thought too, Many opportunities like.
Speaker 3: We're giving them too.
Speaker 7: Many chances like if we gave him one shot in
Speaker 7: the red zone to go for, THE touchdown i. Feel
Speaker 7: confident you get down there and we give them first
Speaker 7: and goal and they've got a chance for at least
Speaker 7: four plays. Down there THAT'S when i, was worried and,
Speaker 7: you know he had thrown a pass A better i
Speaker 7: wouldn't say a, better pass but they had an opportunity
Speaker 7: to score, a touchdown, you know the, play before and
Speaker 7: they missed.
Speaker 3: That play and.
Speaker 9: So after, that happened, you're, like okay they.
Speaker 3: Missed one maybe we got a.
Speaker 7: Shot here and then when he went and threw the
Speaker 7: Past to santonio from my, Vantage point, i'm, like oh what's?
Speaker 7: He doing like there's three, guys there there's, No Chance
Speaker 7: like i'm feeling pretty good that we're gonna knock. This
Speaker 7: down and, of course, perfect pass unbelievable catch in between.
Speaker 7: Three guys but that's what, you know, you know that's
Speaker 7: What super bowls are. All about it's great players making.
Speaker 7: Great plays but it was after that first quick curl
Speaker 7: route that spun out and turned into, you know first
Speaker 7: down into the red ZONE where i knew like we
Speaker 7: were in.
Speaker 3: Trouble here what still keeps you up? At night?
Speaker 7: Football wise, football wise it would Be the Patriot, super bowl,
Speaker 7: you know one just that we didn't play our. Best
Speaker 7: game like you want to go To The super bowl
Speaker 7: and you want to play your. Best game you want, to,
Speaker 7: say hey you, leave it like that game Against, The
Speaker 7: steelers nobody expected us to be there with two and
Speaker 7: a half minutes, To go we're leading in. That game
Speaker 7: we played a good football game and very easily could
Speaker 7: have been champs in. That GAME so i can live with,
Speaker 7: that one even with the long interception and all the stuff.
Speaker 3: THAT happened i could live with.
Speaker 7: That one it was two thousand and one where we
Speaker 7: were a better team than we played on, that day
Speaker 7: and when you get to, those moments and you know
Speaker 7: what that could have meant for a lot of, different
Speaker 7: things to have Two super bowl championships in, three years
Speaker 7: all of.
Speaker 3: That stuff that's the.
Speaker 7: Game to ME that i wish we could have back
Speaker 7: and we could play that, over AGAIN because i, really believe,
Speaker 7: you know and nothing Against.
Speaker 3: The patriots we were the better.
Speaker 7: Football team, you know we didn't play better in those,
Speaker 7: three hours but we were the better. Football team we played,
Speaker 7: ten times WE win i think at least eight, of
Speaker 7: those but that day they. Outplayed us we didn't put
Speaker 7: our best. Foot forward and that's the game that just
Speaker 7: continually comes back through my mind more than more than all.
Speaker 3: The others but what was the?
Speaker 2: Chatter beforehand You're facing brady and he didn't have, Much,
Speaker 2: experience yeah and what was the defensive.
Speaker 7: Philosophy, THERE well I mean i think THAT our defensi
Speaker 7: velosophy was basically. WHAT happened, I Mean tom brady threw
Speaker 7: for like one hundred and fifty yards in, the game
Speaker 7: and they had, YOU know i threw a, Pick six
Speaker 7: they had one. Touchdown pass there was another One where
Speaker 7: tory kind of tripped led to another, you know interception
Speaker 7: that was points. For them AND so i think the
Speaker 7: game plan was what we wanted it. To be and
Speaker 7: it's like their offense isn't going to. Beat us we
Speaker 7: just got to play better than, their defense which obviously
Speaker 7: we had great confidence that we could do that with
Speaker 7: the team that.
Speaker 3: We had but that was more of the mindset.
Speaker 7: Going In tom Brady Wasn't tom brady yet at, That
Speaker 7: point so it wasn't like a, fear like, oh gosh
Speaker 7: we got to worry about twelve at.
Speaker 3: This time it was more worried about.
Speaker 7: Their Defense, bill belichick we played him earlier in, the year, Going,
Speaker 7: in okay what are they going? To do we know
Speaker 7: they're not going to do the same thing they did.
Speaker 7: Last time what do we have to prepare? For it
Speaker 7: so that was more of the MATCHUP that i think
Speaker 7: we were thinking about.
Speaker 2: GOING in i have a, football here and, you know
Speaker 2: we get caught up in if you'll hold that and
Speaker 2: show us the proper way to throw.
Speaker 7: A football proper way to throw, a, football YEAH because
Speaker 7: i mean like like some like. My, grip, yeah yeah
Speaker 7: so my grip IS one i don't know where the,
Speaker 7: camera is but they'll Find where i'm almost on the
Speaker 7: point of. The football and and, FOR me i actually
Speaker 7: changed to that GRIP when i was in. High SCHOOL
Speaker 7: when i watched the guy that was older than me.
Speaker 7: Threw it he threw a really, good ball And so, I'm,
Speaker 7: like okay how's he hold? The football and he had
Speaker 7: his finger more towards. The point AND when i first started,
Speaker 7: DOING that i threw a lot of, Ducks anyways BUT
Speaker 7: when i first started, doing that the ball never came.
Speaker 7: Off CLEAN but i always FELT like i had more
Speaker 7: control with. That point, you know that finger on the
Speaker 7: point of, the ball because it's kind of.
Speaker 3: The last thing that you release as you're throwing.
Speaker 7: The FOOTBALL so i felt like it gave me more
Speaker 7: ACCURACY when i was. Doing THAT but, I mean i
Speaker 7: don't know if there's a there's a perfect way to.
Speaker 7: DO it i think, to me it's like grab it
Speaker 7: what feels comfortable to you. Do it but that was
Speaker 7: the thing, for ME is i wanted to have as
Speaker 7: why the grip as possible on, the BALL and i
Speaker 7: wanted to have my finger close to.
Speaker 3: The POINT so i just felt like it may be.
Speaker 3: More accurate do you care how it inflated? IT is.
Speaker 7: I mean i would like it, legally, INFLATED like, i
Speaker 7: mean whatever the standard is is?
Speaker 4: IS what?
Speaker 2: I wait but why can't you have a football that
Speaker 2: you WANT and i have a FOOTBALL that?
Speaker 7: I want, I mean i. DON'T know, i mean why
Speaker 7: do we? Have rules why why can't you do? SOMETHING that,
Speaker 7: I mean i.
Speaker 3: Don't know nobody's nobody benefits from The kickers on.
Speaker 7: A second like why would somebody do it if they
Speaker 7: don't benefit?
Speaker 3: From it like whatever that that.
Speaker 7: THING is, i mean if you deflated a football or
Speaker 7: you pumped, it up like you would only do that
Speaker 7: if you felt it gave you some sort of, an,
Speaker 7: Advantage right and so.
Speaker 3: We'd like kickers have their. OWN ball, i, mean okay
Speaker 3: but that's not.
Speaker 7: The rule like if the rule is everybody can have their,
Speaker 7: own ball and we actually do allow quarterbacks to break
Speaker 7: the ball in and do what they want.
Speaker 2: To do so you Realize That aaron rodgers told me
Speaker 2: that he over inflated footballs and nobody said anything about
Speaker 2: that because he didn't have a guy known as the
Speaker 2: Inflator and brady had a guy known as.
Speaker 3: The deflator. IT'S skilling i, don't know. It's silly are you?
Speaker 3: Saying silly but, TO me, i mean if the question
Speaker 3: we're calling Into Question Tom Brady's, super bowl is that what.
Speaker 3: WE'RE doing i knew somehow this was going. To go
Speaker 3: then you were somehow gonna give.
Speaker 7: Me THERE but i mean the funny thing to, me
Speaker 7: is and, you know maybe it's to the credit of
Speaker 7: those guys over inflating or, under INFLATING like i never
Speaker 7: once thought about how, much air like give me, The
Speaker 7: ball like give me, the ball what? Ball, is oh it's.
Speaker 7: This ball let's let's go. Play football like that. Was
Speaker 7: nothing you KNOW that i even thought about a DETAIL that.
Speaker 7: I considered, i MEAN maybe i, should have but it was, Nothing,
Speaker 7: like hey this, is legal somebody figured. It out let's go.
Speaker 7: Play ball it's just kind of what.
Speaker 3: You do you're probably not having this conversation on the.
Speaker 7: Draft tonight i'm probably anably, NOT okay I see i
Speaker 7: GUARANTEE you i will not let it.
Speaker 3: Go, there, yes okay great, to see good to.
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Speaker 2: Kurt warner the argument kept going when we went to
Speaker 2: commercial break about inflating your football or deflating. Your football
Speaker 2: if you can do IT and i can, do it
Speaker 2: then it shouldn't be an issue. For me But as, kurt,
Speaker 2: says well there is a rule, in play, so therefore
Speaker 2: why have a rule if you're not going to. ENFORCE
Speaker 2: it i, understand that but kickers get their. Own football
Speaker 2: and the Fact That aaron rodgers said he overinflated. The
Speaker 2: football he wanted an over. Inflated football but you know
Speaker 2: that's there's no drama attached to that because it doesn't
Speaker 2: have anything to do With the Patriots Or. Tom, Brady
Speaker 2: Okay daniel JERROLD My Nfl network draft analyst and he'll
Speaker 2: be on the call tonight at eight EASTERN On. Nfl
Speaker 2: network he also has Moved the sticks podcast and A
Speaker 2: former nfl Scouts as we make Way For daniel jeremiah on.
Speaker 3: THE Program, A, hey dan you?
Speaker 11: See man, all right, That's so i'm glad you finally
Speaker 11: got to the Bottom of Kurt Hating tom brady.
Speaker 2: As asterisk By super Bowls For, tom brady and.
Speaker 11: He's been saying that behind the scenes. For years it
Speaker 11: was nice to see him out here.
Speaker 3: Like that. That's great he's gonna love you. For this
Speaker 3: did you ever See a brady?
Speaker 11: COLLEGE tape, i, did ACTUALLY but i was, you know
Speaker 11: he was came into the LEAGUE before i got, into
Speaker 11: scouting but WE had i started in two thousand, and
Speaker 11: three and we do. A THING when i was With
Speaker 11: the Ravens Called. Scout school so in the evenings at,
Speaker 11: training camp everybody had to do, a presentation and the
Speaker 11: idea was to let the whole group learned something. And
Speaker 11: grow and somebody did the how we all screwed Up
Speaker 11: On tom brady presentation and went through and kind of showed,
Speaker 11: his tape read all the reports and kind of went through.
Speaker 2: The, background okay but wait, a minute he lost his
Speaker 2: job to. Drew hensive so everybody can look back and
Speaker 2: have revisions history, and, SAY man i knew?
Speaker 8: Who.
Speaker 11: Knew well the interesting thing was it was more so
Speaker 11: in the background than it was In the in the
Speaker 11: description of, the play like it WAS and i don't
Speaker 11: remember the, exact words but it, was like this guy's a.
Speaker 11: Maniacal competitor, you know all the, wiring stuff all that
Speaker 11: stuff was just off. The charts and so the point
Speaker 11: of the process was sometimes if the skill levels meets
Speaker 11: the threshold as adequate and you have the elite off off, the, charts, character,
Speaker 11: work ethic all, that stuff that those guys can. Be, Better,
Speaker 11: now no there's no way anybody could ever know that
Speaker 11: he was going to do what. He did but there
Speaker 11: were some little nuggets and little morsels.
Speaker 5: In there what was.
Speaker 3: A red flag when you? Were scouting?
Speaker 11: Red, FLAG gosh i always thought it was a red
Speaker 11: flag when you go back in the DAY when i,
Speaker 11: was scouting you had the, video guys because everybody didn't
Speaker 11: just have everything on. Their iPad and if the video
Speaker 11: guys did not know the quarterback had no relationship with,
Speaker 11: the quarterback that always made me nervous because the guy
Speaker 11: has not been in there watching extra tape that should
Speaker 11: be one of his. Best friends HOW do i? GET
Speaker 11: access i NEED to i want to come in here and.
Speaker 11: Watch this so that was just one kind of RANDOM.
Speaker 2: And i always thought if you were going to talk
Speaker 2: to somebody and, Get IT and i was, told this
Speaker 2: talk to the, equipment manager talk to people who. Are
Speaker 2: around how does he treat people who aren't important? Per
Speaker 2: se how is he in? The lock you know those kind.
Speaker 2: Of THINGS and i remember running into a guy who
Speaker 2: Worked At washington State With. Ryan, leaf yeah and he
Speaker 2: gave me a heads up without. TELLING me, i mean he, was,
Speaker 2: saying boy wait till you get a load, of THIS and, i.
Speaker 3: Go what do?
Speaker 2: You mean, he, Goes oh i'm just saying and, you
Speaker 2: know SO then i eventually. Found out what he was
Speaker 2: saying is the Reputation with ryan at the time was
Speaker 2: not a. Great, teammate yeah and you know there's other
Speaker 2: things in Play with, ryan there and maybe you shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been up as high as. You know you know
Speaker 2: now It was peyton, versus him and nobody wins that. Competition,
Speaker 2: battle yeah.
Speaker 11: No question we always would do it at the combine
Speaker 11: and when you're interviewing Guys At All, star games one
Speaker 11: of the questions we would always ask is if you
Speaker 11: can take one teammate, with you who would you want
Speaker 11: to play with at the. Next level and it was
Speaker 11: kind of interesting because some guys will come up over
Speaker 11: and over and over again through that process.
Speaker 2: And we, you know it's not, character assassination but it
Speaker 2: certainly felt like we needed. A story now we got
Speaker 2: an unnamed scowled or some, you know executive who's talking
Speaker 2: Bad about Shad. Or sanders has anybody said anything negative
Speaker 2: about somebody else in this draft as far as their
Speaker 2: personality or their ability?
Speaker 5: TO interview i would say it.
Speaker 11: This way there's obviously going to be in almost every
Speaker 11: single player in, every draft there's going to be somebody
Speaker 11: in the draft room who's a fan and someone. Who's
Speaker 11: not But with shador This, year dan it is So
Speaker 11: and i'm not comparing them as players, or people but
Speaker 11: it is it's so Reminiscent To, johnny manziel where the
Speaker 11: spotlight is, so bright and there's never been more information
Speaker 11: coming out on a player than there has Been. On,
Speaker 11: chaudeur again totally different players, and PEOPLE but i don't
Speaker 11: recall this much attention on one player since we Had
Speaker 11: The johnny, manziel DRAFT.
Speaker 2: And i remember an Executive saying johnny was unbelievable as.
Speaker 11: An, interview well he, Was, charismatic yeah come in and fill. The,
Speaker 11: ROOM yes i mean his pro day is going to
Speaker 11: go down as one Of. The alzheimers the guy put,
Speaker 11: on pads there was, blaring music and the former president
Speaker 11: Of The united states was on the sideline.
Speaker 5: Watching it.
Speaker 3: How did everybody miss?
Speaker 5: ON him i just think it was, So fun it was.
Speaker 11: SO tantalized i went and saw him play several, times
Speaker 11: live Including in, bowl games.
Speaker 3: And it was just.
Speaker 11: So magical at the, college level and, you had, you
Speaker 11: know The the alabama program and where that, group was and,
Speaker 11: you're like, this guy nobody can do this, against them
Speaker 11: and this kid came AND then i always remembered is
Speaker 11: one of his first. Preseason games it WAS on TV
Speaker 11: and i happened to. Tune in it might have been Against,
Speaker 11: the Lions if i'm, Not MISTAKEN and i remember texting
Speaker 11: My Buddy bucky brooks because we had both been at
Speaker 11: a bowl game and sat next to each other and
Speaker 11: we kind of got taken in by this. Whole thing
Speaker 11: and the first preseason game by, TEXTED him, I, Go,
Speaker 11: bucky dang he looks little all of a sudden on
Speaker 11: a FIELD with nfl guys that it didn't.
Speaker 2: Look great but all you had to do was ask
Speaker 2: a couple of, questions, about.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah there was all the stuff.
Speaker 2: That was but could he have played IN the nfl
Speaker 2: at a. High level let's say, he's focused let's say
Speaker 2: he's clean. And committed did he have the traits to
Speaker 2: be able to be a? SUCCESSFUL quarterback i think he
Speaker 2: did give him.
Speaker 11: THAT style i think, he DID and i know he
Speaker 11: would have had to play a little bit more, on
Speaker 11: time a little bit more. On schedule but, the guy
Speaker 11: he had, huge hands he had a. Huge arm he was.
Speaker 5: Obviously ultra athletic.
Speaker 11: And creative he just needed you needed to kind of
Speaker 11: real that stuff in but we never got a chance
Speaker 11: because this stuff off, the field we never got a
Speaker 11: chance to see what that could have.
Speaker 2: Looked like it's like he wanted To, be farv but
Speaker 2: there's only One, far yeah and he.
Speaker 5: Was pocket farv because, he was, you know a much.
Speaker 3: Smaller Guy, all right we're Talking To.
Speaker 2: Daniel jeremiah he'll be the lead analyst on the draft
Speaker 2: coming up tonight AND That's nfl network starting at. Eight
Speaker 2: eastern the draft starts, where now let me get to.
Speaker 2: Your quote let me MAKE sure i got. It right
Speaker 2: You got browns Are Taking. Travis hunter uh feels one.
Speaker 11: Like that there's been a lot of talk in the
Speaker 11: last twenty, four hours which someone needs to write a
Speaker 11: book on the night before, the draft rumors that never.
Speaker 5: Come true, they're fantastic they really.
Speaker 11: Are fantastic but there's been. A, lot oh they could
Speaker 11: move out and maybe we'll all be shocked and.
Speaker 5: They do but it all feels like that's going to.
Speaker 2: Be, Traveled okay and then you your quote was he
Speaker 2: will major, in offense minor.
Speaker 3: And defense which has never.
Speaker 2: Been done do you agree with that approach that he
Speaker 2: should be more offense?
Speaker 3: THAN defense.
Speaker 5: I do i mean THAT'S how i. SEE him i
Speaker 5: think he's more impactful.
Speaker 11: ON offense i don't think, you know to me, a
Speaker 11: corner he's best when you kind of play, him off
Speaker 11: when he's. In zone when he's, an offman he can see,
Speaker 11: the picture he can. Set traps he can then go
Speaker 11: make plays on. The ball but this is Not like Pats.
Speaker 11: Or tan you got this guy and we will not
Speaker 11: worry about that side of, The field like that's not
Speaker 11: the style of corner. He is whereas, on offense every
Speaker 11: time he touches, the ball, he's IMPACTFUL and i can
Speaker 11: get the ball in his hands, a lot and he
Speaker 11: can help us, win GAMES and i can find ways
Speaker 11: for him to get. On defense, but historically when you've
Speaker 11: had players, and that nobody's done it to the level
Speaker 11: he did in terms of the volume. Of snaps but
Speaker 11: if it was a, major minor it was, always okay
Speaker 11: you have to learn. This defense be in the defensive
Speaker 11: meeting room and we'll sprinkle in a package of plays
Speaker 11: where it's a bubble screen, or reverse, you know a
Speaker 11: go and you don't necessarily have to meet, you know with.
Speaker 11: The offense this one is the FIRST time i can
Speaker 11: ever Remember where i've thought, THIS kid i want him
Speaker 11: full time.
Speaker 2: ON offense i still get the feeling somebody's going up
Speaker 2: To Get ashton GENT and i, YOU know i don't
Speaker 2: know what your intel is, on that but he FEELS
Speaker 2: like i could tell by that reaction, you went he's my.
Speaker 5: THIRD player i think there's three elite players in.
Speaker 11: This DRAFT and i Think cam ward is a really,
Speaker 11: good QUARTERBACK and i have no Problem with tennessee. Taking
Speaker 11: him but, to me the three like blue chip players
Speaker 11: in any draft are those Three Guys, Abdua Carter, it's
Speaker 11: hunter And, It's GENTY so I. Love genty, to me
Speaker 11: it's just around. The league you can get comfortable taking
Speaker 11: a running. Back THERE but I just i'd be curious
Speaker 11: to see if somebody's gonna really move a lot of
Speaker 11: resources for A running.
Speaker 2: But don't You think saquon opened people's eyes here that if,
Speaker 2: you now granted he was the missing piece On A
Speaker 2: super bowl, winning team whereas With the giants he, was
Speaker 2: good but they weren't. Any good So If ashton genty Goes,
Speaker 2: to jacksonville they're not. Very good or Would the patriots
Speaker 2: be squarely enough To go you know what let's let's
Speaker 2: take this guy if he's going to be, great there
Speaker 2: or Do the raiders wait and go let him fall into.
Speaker 11: OUR lamp i brought this up with a general manager
Speaker 11: the other day and, he goes, you realize like the
Speaker 11: four best running backs IN the nfl, last year we're
Speaker 11: all had in free ag and see like they were
Speaker 11: all out there.
Speaker 5: For you like another example.
Speaker 11: Of everybody talks about you can draft him in, any
Speaker 11: round and, he's like there's also going to be guys
Speaker 11: available in free agency.
Speaker 5: Every year so.
Speaker 11: His whole point was, great player we have him. Highly
Speaker 11: rated if, he's there we'll. Pick HIM but i just
Speaker 11: in terms of taking a bunch of resources and going to,
Speaker 11: get him, they were, you know not so much.
Speaker 2: Into that what is it like when you know that
Speaker 2: your organization is maybe starting to panic a. Little bit
Speaker 2: have you been in a situation where all of a
Speaker 2: sudden you're on the clock and the guy you thought
Speaker 2: you were getting is.
Speaker 11: Not there the one of The stories i've told in
Speaker 11: the PAST is i Was in baltimore and we WERE,
Speaker 11: a heloai not. A team that was. Our guy that's
Speaker 11: who we wanted. We had we wanted to put a
Speaker 11: big guy in Front Of, ray lewis and he was
Speaker 11: just a. Perfect, Pick Well phil savage at the time
Speaker 11: was the general manager Of The cleveland Browns and phil
Speaker 11: had been with Us, in baltimore.
Speaker 5: And so phil knew that we were going to like
Speaker 5: that type.
Speaker 11: Of player so they're on the clock just in front,
Speaker 11: of us and He calls ozzie and they have the
Speaker 11: Conversation and, phil's like we're Gonna take keloda Noadup and, ozzie, goes, okay,
Speaker 11: well yeah.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, he goes well.
Speaker 11: You want, a Trade, and ozzie, you know had he
Speaker 11: ends up kind of putting him, on hold and he's
Speaker 11: kind of looking around the room and, he's like they're
Speaker 11: Not Taking, helodi nada but he knows We Want. Holodi
Speaker 11: nada so he's trying to hold us up for a.
Speaker 11: Draft pick AND so i think it ended up being
Speaker 11: a sixth, round Pick, and ozzie's, you know obviously he's
Speaker 11: got so much wisdom and, was, like look we can call,
Speaker 11: their bluff but it's a sixth, round pick and that
Speaker 11: guarantees that we.
Speaker 5: Get him just give him the sixth round pick and
Speaker 5: we'll go up and.
Speaker 3: Get him we did some hot.
Speaker 2: TAKES here i want you to, Judge, these Marvin Give
Speaker 2: daniel jeremiah your, Hot.
Speaker 9: Take jackson dart he will go To The Los angeles
Speaker 9: rams at the end of the. First half and then
Speaker 9: my second, One was oh, MY gosh I think i.
Speaker 9: Forgot it it was. Too HOT oh I Think, Tyler,
Speaker 9: warren yeah going To the patriots with.
Speaker 11: Four, OVERALL yeah i think that would put you in
Speaker 11: round three of.
Speaker 5: Hot ones, YOU know i don't.
Speaker 11: Think that gets you to The, h yeah to the
Speaker 11: playoffs All the that, one's spicy, but Look, the rams that's.
Speaker 5: AN option I.
Speaker 11: When i talk to the guys in, THAT building i
Speaker 11: didn't get. The sense it kind of feels like they
Speaker 11: want to make a push. Right now you bring, you
Speaker 11: know you bring back your quarterback and you feel like you've.
Speaker 11: Got it you're this close to get to. The year
Speaker 11: so they want To help matthew not try and, you
Speaker 11: know eventually. Replace HIM so i would be surprised on, That.
Speaker 11: One warren it Just the patriots seem pretty locked in
Speaker 11: that they have to get better. At tackle they were
Speaker 11: just so bad there, Last year so that would surprise me.
Speaker 3: As well todd your.
Speaker 7: HOT takes i Had the broncos moving up from twenty
Speaker 7: To Take Boise State bronco ashton genty to Become A.
Speaker 11: Denver, BRONCO yeah i think that's there's a lot of
Speaker 11: talk about the two teams that could move up Are
Speaker 11: the broncos And, the eagles two teams that could. Be
Speaker 11: aggressive and With, the broncos that's not a. Hot take
Speaker 11: that's a. Legitimate take it's not a. Hot take that's
Speaker 11: a that's very, much mild like dipped.
Speaker 5: In, ranch yeh that's, not yeah.
Speaker 3: Legitimate, takes yeah, you know we can't. Sell that what about?
Speaker 3: This One the cowboys move up from twelve To grab
Speaker 3: tyler and hoping for The Next jason witten Or j
Speaker 3: novachek to.
Speaker 11: Join them what was the name of the guy that
Speaker 11: they TOOK from lsu? Tight end do you remember that
Speaker 11: from way back in.
Speaker 5: The, Day Oh. Stern, BARKER no i just Opened up.
Speaker 11: Pandora's bock There Was tony gonzalez and, this KID and
Speaker 11: I remember troyman was going to work out both, of
Speaker 11: them And Then tony gonzalez goes Onto the Hall of
Speaker 11: fame the other. Did not but we can get research.
Speaker 11: On that. That one i'll give you. Hot on that
Speaker 11: one your first one.
Speaker 8: NOT hot i have till a tongue of ioloa traded
Speaker 8: tonight to the Either, The, saints giants Forty, nine Ers.
Speaker 3: Or steelers yeah you just you almost literally.
Speaker 5: Floored, HIM yes i MEAN it's i could use some
Speaker 5: milk trying to tame, the.
Speaker 8: Okay the, Tongue, here yeah tame a tongue. Of, ioloa.
Speaker 8: Yeah vamas my other One Is trey hendrickson traded tonight
Speaker 8: to Either, The, packers Lions. OR commanders i like.
Speaker 11: THAT one i THINK that's i think. THAT'S spicy i
Speaker 11: THINK that's i think that's a. Fun one that's a.
Speaker 3: Fun one, All right the to a tongue, Of ioloa,
Speaker 3: YOU'RE not i.
Speaker 11: WOULD be i mean that would be incredible. For us
Speaker 11: we'll have an. Unbelievable night we'll all fall out of.
Speaker 11: Our chairs well that's, the take like you're trying.
Speaker 8: To balance is it better to be something that's like
Speaker 8: more close to reality or Something, like yeah that'd be
Speaker 8: crazy if.
Speaker 6: That happened because that's a, hot, Take right so that's how.
Speaker 6: That qualifies you Need A laramie tunzel night tonight because
Speaker 6: there's not enough great names in.
Speaker 3: This, Draft, LOOK dan i.
Speaker 11: Grew up in the home with a father as, a
Speaker 11: Pastor and i'm live, on Air and i'll be honest.
Speaker 11: WITH that i don't know what's in. THAT mask i don't.
Speaker 11: Know what i've never seen one of those. Things before
Speaker 11: you've never smoked, potpyfore NO but I but i've never seen. That,
Speaker 11: contraption yeah and, They're like, I'M like i don't even
Speaker 11: know how to respond, to THIS but i, was like
Speaker 11: he's a heck of.
Speaker 3: A tackle i can Tell you i'd take. Him high, oh, no,
Speaker 3: NO no i don't mean. That way, All, right paulie
Speaker 3: you're a hot Take.
Speaker 10: For daniel was that tight end of L Shoot, David, lafleur,
Speaker 10: YES yes i looked, it up. All Right the patriots
Speaker 10: will trade down out of four With. The Bears the
Speaker 10: bears will trade up to four To get carter Out Of.
Speaker 11: Penn State so i've heard there's again the last twenty,
Speaker 11: four hours a lot of chatter About the bears trying
Speaker 11: to be aggressive to, move up whether that was to
Speaker 11: three or.
Speaker 5: To Four and carter was THE name a?
Speaker 11: Lightly, HOT yeah i THINK it's i think, it's HOT
Speaker 11: but i think it's.
Speaker 5: IT'S shared i think that's that's.
Speaker 6: Floating Around jackson dart will be drafted About the saints.
Speaker 5: AT nine i don't.
Speaker 11: THINK so i Think the saints go quarterback in. Round
Speaker 11: two so that's A hot i'll give you a hot
Speaker 11: take on. That one by, The, way dan You asked
Speaker 11: kurt what game keeps him up? At NIGHT and i
Speaker 11: just feel a little bit slighted that you didn't ask
Speaker 11: me that.
Speaker 3: Same question i'm not. Done, yet.
Speaker 5: Okay Okay.
Speaker 3: Appalachian state it Was Eight.
Speaker 11: Western carolina it was a cold Day, in KULLOWE and
Speaker 11: i just had tough time holding on to the.
Speaker 5: Ball man we Lost The old mountain jug.
Speaker 3: That, day, fumbles, interceptions yes and your.
Speaker 2: Draft, stock yeah, that's tough the tough one. For us
Speaker 2: who plays quarterback the way you?
Speaker 11: Played quarterback who plays quarterback THE way i?
Speaker 5: Played? Quarterback man nobody.
Speaker 11: IN, the, Nfl unfortunately, Oh, Yeah dan dan was a
Speaker 11: little BETTER than. I, Was, yeah Unfortunately
Speaker 2: He's, DANIEL Jeremiah Nfl network, lead analyst