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You can watch 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:36.760 this program watch this program on YouTube dot com. Science 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:40.200 to Dan Patrick Show. After the recent success of Tiger Woods, 0:00:40.520 --> 0:00:43.320 Peyton Manning versus Phil Nicholson and Tom Brady, the PGA 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:47.880 is trying something new at the Charles Schwab Invitational this weekend. 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.640 They're gonna mic up the golfers try to expand their 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:53.959 access to competitors for the first tournament back. This will 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.720 be on CBS and you're gonna have some banter here 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:02.000 back and forth. Golfs trying to shed the buttoned up 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:04.200 image that it's had for decades. They took a big 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.480 step forward when Tiger arrived on the scene. Remember the 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:10.680 famous fist pump. You weren't allowed to show or you 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:14.080 weren't supposed to show emotion. Remember when Tom Watson chips 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.280 in on the seventeenth hole at Pebble Beach where he 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:20.080 goes on to win the US Open, and he's so 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:23.920 excited and then he has to compartmentalize, he has to go, 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.400 then he stops, and then you have to have that 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.399 decorum there. It's a gentleman's sport here playing golf, but 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:31.960 hard to add too much hype to a sport that 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.280 demands absolute silence in the middle of a swing, and 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:38.240 if you're a golf fan probably just happy to see 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:41.679 the players back. I don't know how it's going to sound. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:44.919 Jim Nance is going to be in the eighteenth Tower 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:48.680 by himself, Nick Fouldo, who's going to be the analyst 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.440 for the telecast, He's going to be in Orlando at 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:55.960 the Golf Channel studios there. But if you're looking for 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:58.559 big picture, trying something new could be a positive step 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:01.040 towards making golf a little more enjoyable and reach a 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.880 wider audience. I just don't know miking up the players 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:09.680 how much I mean, there's familiarity. I just don't know 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.160 how much talking is involved or there will be, because 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.280 these guys aren't really competing with the guy next to 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:19.680 them at their you know, in there twosome, they're competing 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:22.720 with themselves to post a great number. Now, if this 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:26.160 is Sunday, late afternoon, I don't know how much smack 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:29.000 talk they're going to be. We had that with the 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.000 reason why it worked with Tiger and Phil was because 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.880 it was Peyton and Brady. Those were the guys that 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:37.480 were doing the talking. Tiger didn't say much, he had 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.520 a couple of lines in there. Phil gave us a tutorial, 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.600 gave us a lesson on just about every shot. But 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:45.280 Peyton's one of the great trash talkers. And then Brady 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:47.840 started to make some shots. Now it was interesting. Yeah. See, 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:50.440 but I hate admitting this because I'm supposed to be 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.519 an adult. But remember when you had all those videos 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.720 of Tiger farting and it was awesome, It's so hilarious. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:00.960 That was David Ferrity who had his fart machine and 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:04.760 he was behind Tiger and he had a relationship or 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.320 has a relationship with Tiger where he could do it 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.320 and he would crack up Tiger. Yeah, so I'm all 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.919 about that content. I don't know if you can do 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:18.200 that now, but infarity's not on the course anymore. Yeah, Paul, 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.240 But do you think with the golf and being miked up, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.120 they'll pause at certain points when a players going from 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:24.640 one t to the next and say can we get 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.640 a minute with you? And they'll do a little little 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:29.800 chat and they'll be benign. And then also I would 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:32.119 assume that someone from the PGA Tour will be there 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.640 almost like a filter to make sure that nothing offensive 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.640 gets through, and they go, like the NFL does. I 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.400 don't know if we get to listen to everything or 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.080 they're just going to pick and choose and say, oh, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:46.760 we had this exchange last hole, and then they'll bring 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:51.000 back a little clip there and go okay. I don't 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.600 know if that's really going to add to anything here 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.920 with the PGA Tour. Yes, we love I saw the 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.000 report of some of the names they might make up. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.000 It might be Ricky Aller and Graham McDowell. I don't 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:05.119 that's not going to get me anywhere I need. Does 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.839 that have to be the right player? Well, I want 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.720 to know if there's an exchange there. I want to 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:13.280 know if you know, when Phil and Tiger did had 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.280 their first match, it wasn't interesting because they didn't really 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:18.039 have much to say, and then they clammed up on 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.800 the final you know, five or six holes and wasn't 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:24.920 entertaining at all. This time around, they realized we got 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:26.880 to get more involved. And then yet Peyton Manning and 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:30.040 Tom Brady, that's what made it enjoyable. But I I mean, 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:32.080 I can't sit here and go I can't wait to 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:38.080 hear this guy. Kevin Kisner miked up. I'm just throw 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.359 out a name there. Yeah, see you know who I 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:44.400 saw his playing this weekend. Remember Maverick McNeely. Yeah, didn't 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.680 he'd come to the Pebble Beach set. Yeah, we met 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:50.320 him in Pebble Beach. Yeah, great name. Yeah. Oh yeah, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.719 that's a strong name. That's a movie name. Yeah. But 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.599 I don't know. Golf's coming back, and it's like, oh, 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:58.920 by the way, I don't think people realize this event. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:03.960 I think starts tomorrow at Colonial, the Charles Schwab Invitational. There, 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.320 Tiger's not playing in this, is he? I don't think 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.080 so He's not what the top five players are in sixteen, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:13.960 The top twenty. That's like they're calling. They're putting out 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.719 a wait, is Tiger not a top five player? I 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:20.040 guess not. He's not. H Yeah, he's probably didn't play 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:24.600 enough tournaments, you know PGA rankings. I'll double check, all right, 0:05:24.880 --> 0:05:26.839 pull question. I don't know what we had in the 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.159 first town. All over the map. In the first town, 0:05:29.240 --> 0:05:32.600 it was he over under baseball game seventy four point 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:36.640 five set by our guy Max in Vegas, seventy two percent. 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:40.119 Say I will go under that number. Yeah, I'm going over. 0:05:41.000 --> 0:05:43.920 I'm gonna I'm gonna go at seventy five or more 0:05:43.960 --> 0:05:48.040 for Major League Baseball when they come back. I'm optimistic. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:52.360 I'm not Danny Downer today. I'm optimistic. Let's see, we 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.200 talked about Will Chamberlain's greatness. For some reason, I dove 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.560 into the record books last night. I was bored and 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:01.919 I started looking at stats. I looked at keep Merivitch's stats, Oscars, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:08.120 Cherry West, Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain, and then I brought 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.800 it in this morning and I just thought, you know what, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.240 people look at stats, and we use stats, you know, 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:16.480 in accordance to how it strengthens or weakens your argument, 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.359 and you know, I was looking at Will Chamberlain and 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.520 we don't embrace his numbers, but we embrace Babe Bruce numbers. 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.120 And I don't know why, but we do. Will was 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:34.320 never embraceable Babe Ruth Womanizer, drinking party in. But he 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.840 was a great baseball player. Plus we didn't get see 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.520 him on TV or people back then. It was on radio. 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:45.000 You became larger than life. Will was larger than life, 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.400 but that wasn't good enough for people. And he didn't 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.479 win enough, and that may you know, we embrace Allen 0:06:52.520 --> 0:06:55.760 Iverson more than Will Chamberlain. We liked the little guy, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.279 the guy that you could identify with. That's why we 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.120 love Steph Curry. We love Steve Man. Look at those 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:04.920 little guys out there, it's the big guy like Shack. Come. 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:09.200 You don't win more. You need to make free throws, Okay, 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.320 Like we only look at certain guys in their free 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:16.520 throw percentages. Will Chamberlain didn't shoot well for the line. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:20.120 Bill Russell didn't shoot well for the line. Shack didn't 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.520 shoot well for the line. We tend to pick and 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:27.160 choose what's important when it comes to and I said 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.520 that there's gonna be ten or fifteen years down the road, 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.800 where you might not have Larry Bird, Will Chamberlain still 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:38.320 in the top ten greatest players of all time? Is 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.280 Karl Malone in the top ten? I think he's on 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:44.640 the outside. He's always in that eleven through twenty ring. Okay, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.160 because Steph Curry is going to move up the list. 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.360 Let's say they make another run, and why wouldn't they. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.040 You get the number one overall pick. You get everybody 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:56.559 else healthy if he adds one more title or two 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:02.120 more titles. Steph Curry widely recognized the greatest player, shooter 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.119 of all time, greatest shooter of all time. He's gonna 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.720 go in and somebody's got to drop out here. Kobe 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.080 should be higher on these lists. In my opinion, you 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.400 should be higher on these lists. Yeah. See, it's kind 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:17.600 of like we were talking about, I don't know recently 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:20.960 with Steph where the game was different after he entered 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:23.040 the league. He changed the game. Yes, you have to 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.560 be if you're somebody who changed the game, you have 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:30.160 to be high on that list. Well, you would think, 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:33.840 and I have no problem with that. It's not you know, 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:38.520 people have recency bias. I don't have recency anti bias. 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.880 I don't go, well, wow, that guy's a great shooter. 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:42.840 But if he played back in the seventies or sixth 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.800 at no, And I don't do it the other way around. Well, 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:47.800 he couldn't play in today, but he could play back 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.920 in the sixties and seventies. I just know, in your era, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.560 in your generation, how did you do and Steph Curry 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.080 changed the game? You want to put him in there 0:08:58.120 --> 0:08:59.800 greatest shooter of all time. I don't think you have 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:03.080 anybody arguing that. And if he has championships, which is 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.520 really important, you got championships. How is history going to 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:13.320 treat Russell Westbrook? How's history gonna treat James Harden? How's 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.720 history gonna treat the Greek Freak? What if the Greek 0:09:17.760 --> 0:09:20.800 Freak doesn't have any titles? What if he ends up 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:25.280 with three titles? Like Lebron wins one more? Lebron is 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.240 top five already. But you start to look at these lists, 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.000 Magic will go down a little bit. But he shouldn't 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.840 because of the number of titles that he won. Larry 0:09:35.160 --> 0:09:37.920 was at a three year window where four year window 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:40.320 he was the best player in the game, winning you know, 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.719 three MVPs. You know they he has three NBA championships, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.480 But I don't know, it feels like that out of sight, 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:49.760 out of mind here that people are going to forget 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.040 the greatness that a lot of these players displayed on 0:09:53.080 --> 0:09:56.480 a night in, night out basis. Yeah, Poe Steph Curry 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:59.040 might need a second act or after this injury to 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:02.120 cement himself as a top ten player because his first 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.560 four years in the league he did not make the 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.880 All Star team. He had ankle injuries and missed some 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.680 games here and there, but then he had a six 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.200 year run where he was the most probably the most 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.880 entertaining player in the sport, captivating player, maybe not the best, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:18.040 but the most captivating. And now he's onto this back 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.280 half of his career. But he just broke his left hand, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.240 not even his shooting hand, I believe. And they're gonna 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:26.240 have play and they're gonna have Draymond, and you're gonna 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:29.800 have a number one pick. They're they're going to be, 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:33.319 you know, a force to be reckoned with again. Yeah. 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:37.840 McLevin STEP's gout injury issues always has. I mean, well, 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:39.840 when he first came in, he had the ankle issue 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:42.240 and then they almost traded him. I mean the year 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.360 they lost to Lebron and the Calves. He missed two series, right, 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:47.240 I mean he slipped and hurt his knee. That was 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:49.079 that was a big deal. I mean, I don't know 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:51.400 if this series would have gone differently, but he always 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.559 feels brittle, right, like he's gonna get hurt again, is 0:10:53.600 --> 0:10:55.600 it he? That's why I was like, glad, he's not 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.840 coming back. Well, no he came back. No, I don't 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:01.880 think he did, did he? He came out? He came 0:11:01.920 --> 0:11:05.320 back at the end. Yeah, he played four games left hand. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.520 Oh my god, what abody? So it wasn't even a Lake, No, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.320 it was Klay Thompson with the Lake. And as we 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.720 finally found out Duran's not coming back now, people were 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.640 holding out hope a saying yeah I'm hearing and I 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.840 I said, now he's not coming back? Mean not John 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:23.560 and North Carolina, Hey John, what do you have for 0:11:23.640 --> 0:11:31.079 me today? Hey? Dann five nine, two fifty. Um, My 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.520 thing about my thing about Will Chamblin is uh. We 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:39.200 consider that three year period were shot with with Kobe 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.520 at won three straight title shot to be not even 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:46.839 arguably the most dominant big band in the NBA at 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.960 that time, but we don't give the same credit to 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:55.520 Will Chamberlin with being the it being the greatest basketball 0:11:55.559 --> 0:12:00.760 player during that doing his And I'm not understand the 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.200 I don't understand why it's not clicking with some people 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.560 as for why his blackness has to be diminished just 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:11.400 because Bill Russell won. Well, that's that's the label that 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.480 he has. And thank you John. That sounds like John 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:15.800 Thompson a lot. But he said he was five nine, 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.120 So if he said he was six to eleven, I'd go, oh, 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:22.280 it's the former Georgetown head coach. Yeah, it's It's just 0:12:22.720 --> 0:12:27.040 I think Wilt's been forgotten. If Oscar didn't average a 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.880 triple double and win one championship, then we might forget Oscar. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.120 Oscar every year it was averaging twenty seven and ten 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:41.080 twenty seven points. Tennisis good for good field goal percentage, 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:44.240 good free throw shooter. But if you don't have that gimmick. 0:12:44.800 --> 0:12:47.160 The only reason why people bring up Oscar is and 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:50.319 they never saw him play, is way average a triple double. 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.040 And that was every anytime somebody said Oscar Robertson, they 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:59.600 go only average triple double. Bill Russell. He won eleven titles, 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:04.959 like everybody it feels like has a designation. Wilt never 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.559 never won the big One. He couldn't win the big one. 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:09.760 He won the winner. He was a loser. He quit 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.520 on his team. You know, Wilt has this shack. They 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:17.800 should have won more at the Lakers. I think there's 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:21.680 always something there with these players. Tim Duncan, Yeah, but 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:24.000 he had a hall of famers around him. Hall of 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.360 Fame coach, David Robinson, Hall of Famer, Genoble, Hall of Famer, 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.480 Tony Parker hall of Famer, Like everybody has. Karl Malone. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.439 He never won the Big One, never won championship. Barkley 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.160 never won championship. Jerry west the only one one. He 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:43.800 lost all those NBA finals. Everybody has one like description 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.960 that's attached to them. And that's what happened. That's happened 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.319 for decades now. And then Russell Westbrook averaged the triple 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.000 double a couple of times, and then we went, yeah, 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:56.320 but anybody could average a dribble like it became. We 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:59.200 diminished that when he said, no, I can do that. 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.640 But back then when shooting percentages were worse, where you 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:08.959 could get more rebounds, Now you might say it was 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:11.679 harder to get assist and Oscar played on a bad team. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:17.560 But Russell Westbrook basically turned that stat on his ear. 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.360 Triple double man, No big deal. How many times you 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:24.240 want me to do it here? But I tend to 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:26.160 stand up for Wilt, even though he told me to 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:29.520 get the bleep off the Laker bus in my one 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:32.120 encounter with him back in the early seventies, and he 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:34.680 was right, I should have gotten off the bleeping bus 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:39.720 because who am I had gone the bus? I was 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:42.560 not an employee of the Lakers back then. I was 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.080 probably twelve years old, and I wanted an autograph from 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:49.320 Will Chambers. Oh my god. We were just standing outside 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:53.240 of the Lakers bus in Cincinnati and Will sat in 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.480 the first seat, and my friends were like, you should 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.400 go on there, you should, you should go up there 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.040 and get his autograp And I thought, well, the Royals 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:04.240 are moving out of town. I'll never see Will to again, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:05.920 at least I in my mind, I was not going 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:07.520 to see him. I thought, you know what, Yeah, I'm 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.880 gonna walk on the I took two steps, and he 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.240 stood up and said, get the bleep off the bus. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.640 So he has to duck because he's so too. He 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.240 stands up and I went, oh, my god. So he's 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.920 already I'm on the second step. So he's already like 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.960 seven seven to me the way and here I am 0:15:26.960 --> 0:15:30.520 probably five ten, and I excuse you, we could I 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.160 have your autographed, mister Chamberlain. And he stood up and 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:37.760 get the f off the bus. And then I got off. 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.280 And then my friends go, what did he say? What 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:40.560 did he say? And I said, he told me to 0:15:40.600 --> 0:15:43.280 get the f off the bus. Oh that's awesome, that's awesome. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:46.600 I'm shaken. Yeah, Paul, have you guys ever had a 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:49.640 really good or really bad autograph experience, like in your 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:51.840 first twenty years when you ask for autographs? Well, that 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.160 one was, but has anyone else had when we're like, 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.920 oh that that messed me up? Or wow, that guy 0:15:57.080 --> 0:16:00.080 came through, that athlete came through and did it. I 0:16:00.080 --> 0:16:06.040 didn't expect it. I remember hating Willie Mays for decades 0:16:06.800 --> 0:16:10.000 just because I was in Scottsdale at a spring training 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.880 game and I yelled out to him as he's coming 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:15.560 in in between innings to sign my program and he didn't. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.240 And I was probably like six years old, and I 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.360 held that against William Mays all of these years and 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:25.360 it wasn't his fault. He's playing a game. I'm going, hey, well, 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.600 so I'm like, you know, and he didn't know. I'm like, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.520 I hate Willie Mays, I love Hank Aaron. All right, 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.880 we'll take a break. We'll talk to some basketball here. 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.400 Howard Beck, friend of the show, is going to join 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.400 us coming up. Been a while since we've talked to him. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.480 He wrote a great article and this is a this 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:44.560 is a long one. It's called Bryant to Shack. Two days, 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:47.440 two decades after one of the wildest turning points in 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:53.400 NBA history, Lakers Blazers recall the lob that ty Kobe 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:56.840 and Shack together forever sparked a three pete and up 0:16:56.960 --> 0:17:01.200 ended a powerhouse. This is a long, long, great detail 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:05.080 in here, too, great detail. Talk to all you, almost 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.720 all the principles in there. So we'll talk some basketball 0:17:07.760 --> 0:17:11.320 with Howard Beck and Bob Costas will join us coming 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:12.760 up in an hour. For now, we'll get to more 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:14.960 phone calls as well. Eighteen after the hour here on 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.479 the Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening to The Dan 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.240 Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.560 weekday morning nine to noon Eastern or six to nine 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:26.639 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.440 the Dan Patrick Show at Fox Sports Radio dot com, 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:32.440 or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.119 by searching f s R. 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Okay, here we go with 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:12.840 Guess that quote? Feels like this is a theme song 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.080 that we use for a lot of things on this show. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:19.160 It's slightly tweaked. Okay, guess that quote? Setan O'Connor, what's 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.400 the quote? All right? Well, it's hopefully you all don't 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.560 know this because that would really take the sting out 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.959 of the game show. But someone recently said this, I 0:18:28.040 --> 0:18:30.320 know what I'm worth and I know day in and 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.639 day out, without publicly coming in and saying it that 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.520 historically I'm one of the best quarterbacks to play the game. Yeah, 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:40.600 I know who it is. Yeah, Pa, Based on that 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.640 quote and the state of this person's career, it doesn't 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:45.800 sound like he would say it, but it could have 0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:52.000 been Dak Prescott. No, it's a backup quarterback. His name 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:54.600 is I know what I'm worth and I know day 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:56.680 in and day out. Without publicly coming in and saying 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.320 it that historically I'm one of the best quarterbacks to 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.320 play the game is an he publicly saying it. Saying 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:09.400 it now, Karl, say hello to Jamis Winston. Yeah. I 0:19:09.480 --> 0:19:11.160 was trying to be nice to him and not bring 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.280 it up on the show today, but you brought it 0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:17.400 up and guessed that quote. But Jamis Winston, historically it's 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.640 one of the great quarterbacks of all time. Although it's 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.840 mc lovin says, you know, the number of yards he 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:26.280 through for is one of the top ten in NFL history. Oh, 0:19:26.280 --> 0:19:29.879 it's gotta be yeah. Great. Howard Beck joins us on 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.720 loan from Bleacher Reports senior NBA Rider his most recent column, 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:37.280 Bryant to Shack, two decades after one of the wildest 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:40.560 turning points in NBA history, Lakers Blazer's Royalty recall the 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.960 lob that tied Kobe and Shack together forever, sparked a 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:47.639 three pete and up ended a powerhouse. Good morning, Howard, 0:19:47.760 --> 0:19:51.800 When did you decide to do Bryant to Shack? Good 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.400 morning Dan, And let me just humbly say that without 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.040 saying it publicly, I think this is one of the 0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:03.080 greatest oral histories I've ever written. Well done, So you know, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.800 obviously I covered that series for the LA Daily News 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:09.040 back in the day, and it was just always one 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.520 of my favorite games, one of my favorite moments that lob, 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:14.320 and one of my favorite series. And it's also just 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.840 this wonderful sliding doors moment because of course they were 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.280 down fifteen in the fourth quarter of that game and 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.280 probably arguably should have lost, and if they had, there 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:25.440 is no dynasty and the Blazers probably win the championship, 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.760 and history is much different. And I've wanted to return 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.119 to this for a long time. I almost did it 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.160 four years ago. In fact, your upcoming guest Bob Costas 0:20:34.160 --> 0:20:36.160 and I spoke four years ago when I first started 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:38.480 poking around to do something on this. It got shelved 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.879 at the time. We revived it more recently, unfortunately for 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.720 two reasons, the twentyth anniversary of that game and also 0:20:44.720 --> 0:20:48.760 of course the passing of Kobe in January. Favorite interview 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.560 with this was who well I got five players from 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:57.840 each team, plus Mike Dunlevy, senior Phil Jackson and I 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:00.320 emailed a little bit, but that was it. I got 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:03.320 a lot of great voices. I think out of all 0:21:03.359 --> 0:21:05.760 of them, you know, Bonzi was really great. Bonsi was 0:21:05.800 --> 0:21:07.480 a lot of fun. Bonzi Wells was one of these 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.320 guys who back in the day I think had kind of, 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:14.159 you know, this this jaded view of him, the reputation 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.399 because of those Blazers teams at the time that he 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:18.520 was looked at his kind of a young knucklehead and 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.640 you know, part of that crew that was often derided 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:23.520 as the jail Blazers, which I think is a terrible, 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:28.280 unfortunate term. That's that still unfortunately lives. M Bonzi was wonderful. 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.879 He just he could tell you all of the the 0:21:31.960 --> 0:21:34.879