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Speaker 1: Finding Chase Master Episode eight. This week marks three years

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Speaker 1: since her son, Chase Massner vanished in Cobb County. Living

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Speaker 1: the last three years with the not knowing and without

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Speaker 1: him here is pure hell. Chase Massner isn't a rock

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Speaker 1: War veteran, a husband, a father. His wife told us

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Speaker 1: she dropped them off at a quickstrip in Cobb County,

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Speaker 1: where he works. His family says he was last seen

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Speaker 1: March and it's like he vanished from that home, not

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Speaker 1: to be seen or heard from again. If he was

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Speaker 1: he would. Despite some intense searching, few clues have been found.

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Speaker 1: She tells me that as a mother, in her heart,

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Speaker 1: she feels her son Chase is dead. We have absolutely

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Speaker 1: three years. Imagine your son that you've loved his whole life,

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Speaker 1: that you have raised, that you have poured all your

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Speaker 1: love into, takes off and fights in Iraq. Imagine the

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Speaker 1: suffering that you go through every day, every night, wondering

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Speaker 1: and you're on top of the world. You are back

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to believe that. That is what

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Speaker 1: the mother of Chase Master lives through every day of

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Speaker 1: her life. I Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Where is Chase Master? At

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Speaker 1: the time he mysteriously disappeared, he was married, with beautiful children,

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Speaker 1: a beautiful wife. He and the wife, Amanda fault like

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Speaker 1: he came back from Iraq. It's hard. They had money problems,

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Speaker 1: they had a new baby. Nothing was working. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of suspicion turned toward her when he went missing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people pointed the finger at her. Was

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Speaker 1: incredible row? Did she pull a gun on him? Did

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Speaker 1: she throw him out of the car? What what happened? Finally,

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Speaker 1: She reveals to me her feelings, where she was that day,

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Speaker 1: what happened that day, and how it feels for people

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Speaker 1: to blame you, how it feels for the victim to

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Speaker 1: somehow turn into the bad guy. Here is Amanda Master.

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Speaker 1: There are a lot of things in my path, but

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Speaker 1: I am not proud of doing me too. I think

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Speaker 1: have made I'm not trying to hide them. I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to lie about them. But I love my husband

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Speaker 1: very much and I love my children very much. And

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Speaker 1: four months after my husband disappeared, God came into my

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Speaker 1: And I might not I have talked to media or

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Speaker 1: And the reason that I'm sitting here three years later,

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Speaker 1: without going crazy, knowing that God does know exactly or

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Speaker 1: you because there's so many lies, there's so many things

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Speaker 1: so wrong. I'm glad you said that. What what do

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm speaking on an episode of Jerry

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Speaker 1: Like that's just ridiculous weird, Okay, And Chase was he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: And we were not in our front yard screaming at

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Speaker 1: think he may have been murdered. So they take every

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Speaker 1: And there are certain people that have threatened me. Certainly

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Speaker 1: I have a question about something you said. You said

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Speaker 1: it's incredible for me letting you out of prison, which

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Speaker 1: I have the same feeling the pain that she suffers

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Speaker 1: because she is the victim in this and her two daughters.

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Speaker 1: Yet people who are well intentioned, who are really wanting

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Speaker 1: and she becomes the suspect. But it got really bizarre

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Speaker 1: So what does that have to do with Amanda. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Alan, that drastically statistics show did the person

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Speaker 1: So of course people are going to look at Amanda.

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Speaker 1: Fine Chase Master. That's what we're working on. I feel

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Speaker 1: good about it. Nancy Grace Crime Stories, signing off, goodbye friend,