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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here
Speaker 1: with farmer Fred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I go by now. I'm a nurturer.
Speaker 1: Yes, got watermelon from whatever day that was Tuesday.
Speaker 3: I got this smith cant of dirt sent from Mississippi
Speaker 3: to Virginia so I could.
Speaker 2: Grew it the way of my end Tan.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Huh it was.
Speaker 1: It's still on my mind.
Speaker 4: A little bit. I'm sitting here like Fred and grow
Speaker 4: that down.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But if he did, he.
Speaker 2: Did, Yes, I did. I grew it with love grew.
Speaker 1: You are very loving towards your your produce.
Speaker 2: Thank you man.
Speaker 1: You go what you said last week, you said on
Speaker 1: Tuesday you said, I grow with the strawberries with peppers
Speaker 1: or the bugs don't get there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to learn these these tricks.
Speaker 3: Like the worst thing you can ever do the vegetables
Speaker 3: and fruit is put pesticide on. I know why you're
Speaker 3: doing it, to keep the to keep the bugs out
Speaker 3: so you can eventually eat it. But you got to
Speaker 3: come up with some more shifty ways to make that hat,
Speaker 3: especially when you're doing at your house.
Speaker 4: I just can't imagine Fred ready to get the time
Speaker 4: from the city.
Speaker 2: And play in the dirt basically what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Like do you put like overalls on Fred and like
Speaker 1: a straw I.
Speaker 2: Don't really get into characters like I go out there.
Speaker 3: Like I told you, I listened to my music, and
Speaker 3: as I listen to my music, I might be trimming
Speaker 3: some weeds. I might be picking some stuff up. It's
Speaker 3: just difference, man, It's different.
Speaker 1: So we got an exciting show. We are previewing preseason
Speaker 1: game one versus the Cleveland Browns, and so Ron hasn't
Speaker 1: talked a ton about what the plan is or anything
Speaker 1: like that. But if you guys were head coach, how
Speaker 1: would you approach reps times? What do you want to see?
Speaker 1: Let's start with Tanne.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna jump out there and say, from just
Speaker 4: my experience, the coaches like to get everybody in that
Speaker 4: season opener mindset. I know it's a preseason yes, but
Speaker 4: we want to make sure everybody know this is how
Speaker 4: we prepare for games. So the next game when it
Speaker 4: gets a little more critical, in the next game when
Speaker 4: it gets critical, then by the time we want come
Speaker 4: we already went through the format. So this should be like,
Speaker 4: you know, dress rehearsal for you guys. So we go
Speaker 4: through dress rehearsal. We're going to show you guys how
Speaker 4: we prepare. We're going to have a period in there
Speaker 4: where we go over the script that plays that we're
Speaker 4: going to have, and so on and so on. I
Speaker 4: think every game is basically every preseason game is just
Speaker 4: like you warming up for the game, showing these guys
Speaker 4: that if you make the team, this is what we
Speaker 4: expect out of you. But due to the fact that
Speaker 4: just the first preseason game we got to get these
Speaker 4: guys that's going to probably play the most to have
Speaker 4: that kind of game sense of mindset, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, I know the starters and the guys who's
Speaker 4: going to make the squad. You kind of almost like
Speaker 4: rest my son, flout Seeds. I'm ready to be sitting
Speaker 4: on the sideline watching these other guys play. But you
Speaker 4: got to get those young guys and everybody who's on
Speaker 4: that bubble and those guys who's trying to make the
Speaker 4: squad to have that mindset. This is how we're going
Speaker 4: to prepare for the game.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Sam can't play no less than twenty plays
Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, he's the guy that I need out there.
Speaker 3: So if he's out there, my first whole line out there.
Speaker 3: I would never let him go out there without their
Speaker 3: first old line out there to protect him. So they
Speaker 3: need to get in the mind frame of twenty plus plays.
Speaker 2: Either it's on you. Either two good drives, whatever you want.
Speaker 2: You can be out of here any and of the
Speaker 2: first if you want to.
Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I want I
Speaker 3: want to see least sixty plays from him in the
Speaker 3: preseason same how total.
Speaker 1: So even in the Baltimore game, you wanted to play.
Speaker 3: If I like the one thing coaches, they cannot afford
Speaker 3: to start slow this year.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any of your excuses.
Speaker 3: This is why out in a backup, like, because if
Speaker 3: I need you to play, I know what I'm.
Speaker 2: Getting I have to put.
Speaker 3: I can't say I'm going to give Sam hit the
Speaker 3: best chance to succeed when I'm not working you in
Speaker 3: that preseason, knowing I can get you some rips against
Speaker 3: the second team on some guys, I can get you some.
Speaker 2: Rips with the first team.
Speaker 3: Fire his our offensive line, maybe some wide house, maybe
Speaker 3: some tight ends.
Speaker 2: I just need him to get to work.
Speaker 1: Is there any concern about injury? Not necessarily to Sam,
Speaker 1: but to one of the other starters that has to
Speaker 1: be in when Sam is in You know you got Leno,
Speaker 1: who's an experienced guy, Gates, I've been around a little bit.
Speaker 2: I need you in there. So if he's in there,
Speaker 2: you in there.
Speaker 1: Last year they did the Lucas thing, like Leno, who's
Speaker 1: the ten year eleven year guy comes out, Lucas goes in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: or Carnage Lucas. Excuse me, but so old lines in?
Speaker 1: Are the receivers in with him?
Speaker 4: I want to see everybody.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut you off free.
Speaker 4: I just want to see everybody give him, give him
Speaker 4: a series, give him a chance to move the ball
Speaker 4: together once they get that first down. I seen enough,
Speaker 4: you know, however you are, you know, I just I
Speaker 4: just feel like it's crazy that we sit here and
Speaker 4: you brought up that whole thing about do we you know,
Speaker 4: have that in the back of our heads about anybody
Speaker 4: getting injured. Man for my first let's say ten years
Speaker 4: of my career, Yeah, we played in the preseason. Our
Speaker 4: coaches didn't worry about nobody not being there available. Now,
Speaker 4: we did have Chad Pennington go down one time in
Speaker 4: the preseason, but Chad was out there playing like he
Speaker 4: was in regular season for him, trying to scramble and
Speaker 4: slide and do all that other stuff. So you have
Speaker 4: to risk that sometime. But at the same time, you're
Speaker 4: thinking about how much can I give these guys to
Speaker 4: get them physically and mentally ready for the next step
Speaker 4: and the next step and then week one.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said mentally ready, because that's really kind
Speaker 1: of what it is.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: It's like you've kind of ramped training camp, you know,
Speaker 1: no pads, pads, first preseason game, it's like you go
Speaker 1: to the stadium, you get dressed, you do your warm up,
Speaker 1: you start your routine. So there's a lot of value
Speaker 1: there and then there's a little bit of extra emotion.
Speaker 1: Right it's not crazy, yeah, like.
Speaker 3: Just like but it's ratching up man games now, I
Speaker 3: think you.
Speaker 2: Can't look at it like you did when we had
Speaker 2: four games three.
Speaker 3: It's like, way, I might have to play him in
Speaker 3: this first one because the second game is really our
Speaker 3: game and the third with nobody played.
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, it'd be interesting because also I
Speaker 1: think that when you have a joint practice with the team.
Speaker 2: Usually it's where we win in it, that's where we win.
Speaker 1: Usually the starters won't play, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 1: so it'll be a backup game. So he's really got
Speaker 1: to play in this one or.
Speaker 3: Not be seen in the preseason, and we can't afford
Speaker 3: they like I'm sorry, he might got.
Speaker 2: To give me ten to fifteen plays against the Ravens
Speaker 2: second team. If that's what they playing, so be it.
Speaker 2: But we know how Ravens are.
Speaker 4: I want the reps regardless of who out there. If
Speaker 4: you can, if you got your second guys in us,
Speaker 4: so be it. We're fina, We're finna make them wish
Speaker 4: that they went on the field, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think for Sam, I think we
Speaker 1: all agree he's got to get reps right. But the
Speaker 1: thing that gets me is like, if he's out there,
Speaker 1: you're starting on lines out there? Yeah, can you risk again?
Speaker 1: Risk and injury to that group?
Speaker 2: Sports?
Speaker 3: Sports is about injuries. Guess what next? Man up mentality,
Speaker 3: that's how you truly feel. We've been rosched building right
Speaker 3: when you roster Bill to have flexibility.
Speaker 1: So he talked a lot about the offense right there,
Speaker 1: and I think because that's kind of where the storyline is. Like,
Speaker 1: another thing I want to ask you, Tennant and Fred too,
Speaker 1: is what kind of game plan are you putting in?
Speaker 1: Because I remember early preseason it was like hey, man
Speaker 1: day one, day two in saw go have fun and
Speaker 1: you could just play as fast as you wanted to.
Speaker 1: There was no like real game plan. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: let's scheme up Cleveland's defense. It was like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: running stick flat, running double stick, We're running basics. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Nothing too crazy you because it
Speaker 1: is Sam. No, you want to see someone No.
Speaker 3: Because I need to hide my offense, my true outfense
Speaker 3: from people. So I for me to have that first
Speaker 3: five six weeks of unpredictability play Collein wise, I cannot
Speaker 3: show you who I really am in I'll season like
Speaker 3: I'm running certain plays for Sam to see him make
Speaker 3: some throws.
Speaker 2: This is not my offense. We are. It's part of
Speaker 2: my offense, but.
Speaker 1: It's not like how I'm gonna formation is.
Speaker 2: It's not I'm an attack you in the first three
Speaker 2: weeks before well.
Speaker 4: One of the things that I love and I always
Speaker 4: think back and reflect on stuff that I experienced. When
Speaker 4: you asked me that question, the first thing I thought
Speaker 4: it back about, you know, playing with Caldom. I feel
Speaker 4: like we ran out. We ran our stuff. Now we
Speaker 4: probably have so many other ways of getting to what
Speaker 4: we do in formations. It wasn't all the formations, but
Speaker 4: it was the basic stuff that we ran. I was running,
Speaker 4: you know, option routes in the preseason. I was running
Speaker 4: sticks routes in the preseason. I was running.
Speaker 1: In the preseason.
Speaker 4: So we ran our stuff, but it just was like
Speaker 4: the generic part of it, Like it was just like
Speaker 4: simple base, you know, basic, you know the formations you know,
Speaker 4: so I would say we I'm pretty sure this officers
Speaker 4: have the same same, same way of going about business.
Speaker 4: You know, run your stuff, get to what you're trying
Speaker 4: to get to see what you're trying to see. But
Speaker 4: don't go out there with a whole bunch of you know,
Speaker 4: different formations and showing the world whatever you know what
Speaker 4: you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Think that's actually yeah, I think I think it'll probably
Speaker 1: look something like that. You know, it'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: se how many say players if it's team twenty five.
Speaker 3: It's almost damned if you do. Damned if you don't.
Speaker 3: Because if you don't play him in those snaps and
Speaker 3: we started out slow, everybody be like, well then, because
Speaker 3: you treated him like a ten year starter in the preseason.
Speaker 3: So I think we just got to throw it in,
Speaker 3: throw it in the hats to see what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But else, I think they You could also hypothetically,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play. I think he's gonna play
Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five snaps. Like you, Fred, I'm in
Speaker 1: that same boat. But you could also lean on that
Speaker 1: Baltimore practice and be like, we're gonna get to see him.
Speaker 2: This and this way, you're gonna get the real this one.
Speaker 3: I can run my play, I can run my plagues
Speaker 3: against the Ravens that closed practice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. All right, So that's offense defense very
Speaker 1: very different in terms of how much they're gonna play,
Speaker 1: how much we need to see him. What would you
Speaker 1: do with that starting in D line or any of
Speaker 1: those guys playing. I mean, I don't even really want
Speaker 1: to play Casey two Hill and.
Speaker 2: James wi Williams. I'm like, you got it.
Speaker 3: I'm a guy that played in the two thousand. We
Speaker 3: played preseason game, I know.
Speaker 1: But you didn't have joint practices. You know things we
Speaker 1: practice against the.
Speaker 2: Jets against you guys.
Speaker 1: Would do the practice and then you would go play
Speaker 1: the preseason game.
Speaker 4: We just yeah, so we we did the same thing
Speaker 4: with the Jets. When I was the Jets, we played
Speaker 4: practice against the Giants, played in the preseason game. And
Speaker 4: when I got here, every year we went against the
Speaker 4: Rape every every year, played them in that preseason game.
Speaker 1: And you were playing there even though you practice against them.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, the Ravens love to win the
Speaker 3: preseason so they got first team and the undefeated defeated.
Speaker 4: Up to last year, they never lost the game.
Speaker 1: Seriously, that's wild and so again, So I guess my
Speaker 1: question is, so Sanzo, I know you're an old head
Speaker 1: and you want them to play, but do they do
Speaker 1: you do they need to play?
Speaker 4: Give me five or six players?
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me something. Then stand up for these guys.
Speaker 4: Just put your hand in the dirt. Showed me that
Speaker 4: you're ready. You know what I mean? You know I'm
Speaker 4: with you.
Speaker 1: But like for fans, why is that important? Like why
Speaker 1: is it important just to get them out there for
Speaker 1: a couple.
Speaker 4: They coming, They coming to see those guys anywhere. We're
Speaker 4: not out here. We're not out here to serve our
Speaker 4: fans right now, although we are in the business of
Speaker 4: serving and make sure that they're happy and we put
Speaker 4: on a great show. But they also have to understand
Speaker 4: preseason and you want to see these guys be their
Speaker 4: best more.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, why is it important for
Speaker 1: fans for them to just be out there for a
Speaker 1: couple of steps. You know what I'm saying. It's not
Speaker 1: like we're not doing it for the fans.
Speaker 3: A lot of times, like we don't want them to
Speaker 3: get but no, no, I need them to be out
Speaker 3: there because I can't hide you football players from football.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of people.
Speaker 4: You don't even know how it is to go against
Speaker 4: somebody else. They need to feel how they need to
Speaker 4: prepare that. Like you always said, your mind and you
Speaker 4: know mentally you need to go out there and hit
Speaker 4: somebody else's helm the.
Speaker 3: First time you make attack. I should not be against
Speaker 3: Coke McCoy.
Speaker 1: That's a great point, like one hundred percent agree. Like
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, when I was at Atlanta, I was like,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the preseason? Like I gotta
Speaker 1: have one where I'm playing like a half and that's
Speaker 1: just gets it sets this table mentally for me for
Speaker 1: the years.
Speaker 4: And you see how you say mentally, that's how I
Speaker 4: was as a receiver. I used to tell myself, I
Speaker 4: need to get one catch a preseason game and that's
Speaker 4: going to build me up to going. I remember one pre.
Speaker 2: Seas game I had about four or five catch.
Speaker 4: I was like, man, this is too much, you know,
Speaker 4: but I always wanted at least one catch. I think
Speaker 4: the preseason is very important just mentally for all of us,
Speaker 4: but we understand as a lot of guys it's more
Speaker 4: important because they have to make you know, make a.
Speaker 1: Squad absolutely, So for let's talk about position battles. Anybody
Speaker 1: that you've got an ion specifically, I know Forbes, the
Speaker 1: young guy right. You want to see him. Do we
Speaker 1: get any information about how they're going to utilize the
Speaker 1: corners in this situation.
Speaker 3: I want to see klun Moyd because he one of
Speaker 3: the guys in the puzzle.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly where his.
Speaker 3: Piece is at, so he one of those guys I
Speaker 3: want to see. I want to see Percy Butler.
Speaker 1: He's been a little quiet.
Speaker 2: I want to see I want to see him. I
Speaker 2: want to see Collie Hudson.
Speaker 1: You know it's kind of different. You want to see
Speaker 1: Percy to see if he comes to life. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you want to see Kaleik to see if it's real.
Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going. We keep gaining this momentum that
Speaker 2: he got.
Speaker 3: So I got some guys that I know gonna play
Speaker 3: some reps that I want to see, Like I want
Speaker 3: to see John. I want to see big Ridgeway out
Speaker 3: there because he gonna have that mind frame that I
Speaker 3: shouldn't be out here. You know how it is like
Speaker 3: a guy that played his way to some respect, but
Speaker 3: you still like the fifth gown on the depth charge,
Speaker 3: but I want to see him mavel some people out
Speaker 3: there because he don't want to be out there.
Speaker 2: So it's a couple.
Speaker 3: Of guys out there for different reasons that I want
Speaker 3: to see.
Speaker 4: You know. I want to see some of the young receivers,
Speaker 4: you know, I want to see Alan. I want to
Speaker 4: see how special can he be on a special teams,
Speaker 4: you know, standpoint of it in Tensionly all those guys,
Speaker 4: I want to see who are going to be that
Speaker 4: bubble guy or the guy that we say, okay, he's
Speaker 4: good enough to be on the practice squad because we
Speaker 4: can't you know, you know, we can't risk let someone
Speaker 4: else get them. But I also want to see those
Speaker 4: tight ends. I'm wondering where who's the third guy? What
Speaker 4: is turning going to be that guy this year that
Speaker 4: we can kind of want to go out there and
Speaker 4: do some things, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting one because it's like with
Speaker 1: Logan out, a guy that's going to play a lot
Speaker 1: of football for this team is gonna have to play
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. So who's that going to be?
Speaker 1: Who's going to be out Jude? Is it?
Speaker 2: John bas base Motel.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gotta be. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe Cole's got that roster.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I say Judd because he does nothing special.
Speaker 3: He's just good at everything. And I know how coach
Speaker 3: is about blocking. So he's the best blocker at the group.
Speaker 3: Can we can we say.
Speaker 1: That, I mean, best blocker in the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, And I think he's one of those guys.
Speaker 2: This sneakily fast, didn't you think he is? So like he.
Speaker 3: Reminds me of Jay Novacheck. Just I just do whatever
Speaker 3: you ask me.
Speaker 4: He's the guy that quietly, if they wanted to throw
Speaker 4: the ball to him more, he can be very productive
Speaker 4: in the passing game as well, but they don't. But
Speaker 4: the times that he has, you'd be like this, I
Speaker 4: can catch. Just give him enough, you know, give him
Speaker 4: enough plays in the game where he's going to touch
Speaker 4: the ball because he can actually, you know, go out
Speaker 4: there and sneaky and beat some guys. And so y'all
Speaker 4: love to see what goes on him too. But I
Speaker 4: think he's he's solidified that he's number two, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 1: So for me other Titans, it is probably Curtis Hodges
Speaker 1: because he's the guy at practice. He's got silky smooth out.
Speaker 1: He's this big six.
Speaker 2: Eight guy, built like a Greek guy.
Speaker 1: I want to see it. I want to see it
Speaker 1: come together. And sometimes guys need the preseason game for
Speaker 1: it to come together. Because he's good, he doesn't finish plays.
Speaker 3: There's a like, so you you saying that the switch
Speaker 3: has it flipped.
Speaker 1: It looks like to me, it looks like you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he still thinking too much. It's
Speaker 1: like still thinking too much. It's not quite there yet.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping get him out to practice, let him,
Speaker 1: let him just go and then see what happens and
Speaker 1: maybe you get a good result. But I agree with Tan.
Speaker 1: Also the receivers you know, Brice and Tremaine, Tinsley, Allen Sample,
Speaker 1: all those guys are good football players.
Speaker 3: Dammy Brown gots to play too. And I think it's
Speaker 3: still some room for him. Like I think he's one
Speaker 3: of them guys.
Speaker 1: Is it real? Is it real?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: So I think he's one of them guys that you're like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, he gonna make the roster, but we
Speaker 3: want to see him play in the preseason like he's
Speaker 3: at he's at that point, like put it like this.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play a lot.
Speaker 3: How can I trust you to go out there and
Speaker 3: beat number one defenses and you can't in the preseason
Speaker 3: go beat somebody number twos like I should go out
Speaker 3: there and dominate the number twos like they number two.
Speaker 4: He winning this year. I don't care what dim and
Speaker 4: Bryant is gonna sow the world this year. Boy, this
Speaker 4: is what y'all have been expected from me. He winning
Speaker 4: this year because I haven't seen a practice yet where
Speaker 4: he took a step back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also say this like that's another reason why
Speaker 1: you got the preseason. It's like, is it fugazi or
Speaker 1: is it real?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Does he get out there and drop the ball and
Speaker 1: not look like himself? I think I agree with Tanner
Speaker 1: like he's looked great. I think he'll continue to look great.
Speaker 1: The one that I'm going to keep an eye on
Speaker 1: to in addition offensively is the offensive line. Offensive line depth.
Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is.
Speaker 3: Why did you say that with like express and did
Speaker 3: some stink in you? Like yeah, you just your nose
Speaker 3: crushed up, like.
Speaker 2: You have no faith?
Speaker 4: Fired up?
Speaker 1: I'm because I actually think that they are. They're getting
Speaker 1: better each if you'll watch those one on ones. You're
Speaker 1: getting better.
Speaker 4: You got no choice but to get better with the
Speaker 4: defensive front.
Speaker 1: But I think, but yeah, it's exactly right. So I
Speaker 1: think they're going to be how they look against like
Speaker 1: mere Mortals. Yeah, I doubt Miles Garrett is gonna play right.
Speaker 1: So and then the depth there right, you know, you
Speaker 1: got Mason Brooks, the guy that I think is really
Speaker 1: playing really well. Joan Smith is another guy that's been
Speaker 1: playing really well. And then Braydon Daniels is a guy
Speaker 1: that struggled a little bit in camp. Does he maybe
Speaker 1: come to life in the game. And then also the
Speaker 1: center from Arkansas whose name is case Smith at the moment, yeah, Stromberger,
Speaker 1: how does he look because he's he's making the roster? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know how how how do those kind of
Speaker 1: four guys look because I think they're all kind of
Speaker 1: fighting for that spot and if Sadik plays, how does
Speaker 1: Chris look like? Those are to me that those are
Speaker 1: kind of the things to keep an eye on offensively,
Speaker 1: and I think I think those that second group of
Speaker 1: guys that just mentioned is going to play a lot
Speaker 1: of football.
Speaker 2: Well. Who Elvia wins dick guard spot with Sadiq.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they become the dep who whoever loses the job,
Speaker 3: dem and Cane is Lucas become the majority of your swingman.
Speaker 3: Depp right there with with Scromberg backing up Nick Gates.
Speaker 1: Also we mentioned we mentioned the receivers right returner. You
Speaker 1: excited for that.
Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, that's one of the reason
Speaker 4: why I want to see Cashmere. All I want to
Speaker 4: see where he how special can he be was on
Speaker 4: special teams, because I think that's what's going to solidify
Speaker 4: a spot as a received on his team. On returner
Speaker 4: has to be big for him. You have to have
Speaker 4: that already. Pencil didn't say you don't make it here.
Speaker 2: You know you're gonna make.
Speaker 1: Because you have to have Yeah, I guess he does.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have to make a play. He has to
Speaker 3: make a play. I tell you who I don't want to.
Speaker 1: See, No, no, no, But linebacker is the only one
Speaker 1: I want to ask you about linebacker, Jamie Davis. What
Speaker 1: is the expectation of that group? What do you want
Speaker 1: to see? I guess specifically from Jamen from from the
Speaker 1: group as a whole, to kind of say like they
Speaker 1: are where we thought they were there? Where they need
Speaker 1: to be like.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you how people really think about
Speaker 3: it outside of this city and football people. If you
Speaker 3: can't play good linebacker in this D line, how good
Speaker 3: are you? Because you're never going to be double team.
Speaker 3: You're never they're never gonna address you first. They always ain't.
Speaker 3: Nobody gonna be like, let's run the Bible. We need
Speaker 3: to get second level. No, we need to start at
Speaker 3: first level. So if you can't run sideline and sideline
Speaker 3: with this defense, you can't get through gaps.
Speaker 2: I find it very hard for the people that think
Speaker 2: you could do it.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to the linebackers, we want you
Speaker 3: to meet your potential, and if the potentially is just.
Speaker 2: Good, so be it.
Speaker 3: We need you to be good behind a great defensive
Speaker 3: line and what could be a great secondary, So just
Speaker 3: be good.
Speaker 4: I think, just just speaking on that, that's why Jamie
Speaker 4: played as good as he played last year. I think
Speaker 4: he was phenomenal last year. And despite some of the
Speaker 4: stuff that was said earlier in the season, yeah, he
Speaker 4: flew around. Now when things hit the fan, when you know,
Speaker 4: Hokum got out the game and now he had to
Speaker 4: have a larger role, I think he still showed up.
Speaker 4: He wasn't playing his traditional you know position all the time.
Speaker 4: But I still feel like, man, when you had that
Speaker 4: front five, man put me in line.
Speaker 2: No, no, it's I'm gonna get in there.
Speaker 4: I might be coming lower every time, but.
Speaker 2: Chance your chances. I'm sorry, And that's how people are
Speaker 2: gonna look at it.
Speaker 3: You gotta ask yourself, if your offense about to play us,
Speaker 3: who are you worried about?
Speaker 1: I mean, no question about a defensive line.
Speaker 2: Right, that's where every things start.
Speaker 1: So also with Jamie, he's been flashing a little bit
Speaker 1: in practice. Again, it's the consistency, like he flashes huge splash,
Speaker 1: plays big hits and you're like, is that the right
Speaker 1: run fit? Is he in the right spot in coverage?
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how he looks in the
Speaker 1: game situation when versus a simplistic offense, because I doubt
Speaker 1: the Browns are going to be going crazy out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we can't can't sleep on the Browns.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go online and say the Browns could be
Speaker 3: one of the most dangerous teams in the AFC next year.
Speaker 3: You're talking about Washington had a year back to come back.
Speaker 3: You're talking about them. They signed Elijah uh from the
Speaker 3: Jets just more more eligah more, and they got a
Speaker 3: money coop, I mean a money coop they got in joke,
Speaker 3: at the tight end position. They got Nick Chubb, one
Speaker 3: of the best becks, if not.
Speaker 2: The best back in the league.
Speaker 4: Kareem Kareem dint comeback, So I said, so, so you
Speaker 4: know now how much of that.
Speaker 1: Plays an effect on Chubb and curiousness, I'm not saying.
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess. The thing I'm thinking about with
Speaker 1: Cleveland is like how much of the starters gonna play? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, what's their plan?
Speaker 3: We're very similar because our quarterback is we both got
Speaker 3: starters that still need reps, like the Shaun still needs reps,
Speaker 3: like he ain't old the Shaun yet, and I think
Speaker 3: he's I think this summer probably help him get back there.
Speaker 3: Nothing but football, but Steve, I would not be shocked
Speaker 3: if they played him reps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I guess that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: And the backups there are not great. It's like Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond and you know, oh the kids from say your guy,
Speaker 1: my god, Bruin's hyphen up hyphen hyphen something.
Speaker 2: Thomas Thompson, You're not really a Brewin fan because I
Speaker 2: know I stay bulleted out. I'm just being mine it.
Speaker 2: But Dorian Thompson, I mean Dorian what's his name? Thumps?
Speaker 1: Also, Big Dwan Jones is on the Cleveland Browns Thanos himself.
Speaker 2: So being he didn't he looked kind of slow footed.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. He looks slow footed in college,
Speaker 1: but his length and his strength like it's unbearable. And
Speaker 1: so the thing about him is like I was watching
Speaker 1: him because I was doing an eval for somebody, and
Speaker 1: I was like, he's like he's like a starting tackle
Speaker 1: and he's just like a sugar And I was like
Speaker 1: watching their line and that's that Bill callahandle line just
Speaker 1: dudes just grinding, getting after it, perfect technique, understanding how
Speaker 1: to use different sets. So I do think I'm really
Speaker 1: excited to see our two's against there too, Yes, And
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if there're ones play like that's
Speaker 1: a good that's a well coach offensive line that that
Speaker 1: they do a lot in the run game. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a little different in terms of pin pool stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to see what that looks like.
Speaker 3: Do you know what we used to Kyle taking the
Speaker 3: Browns to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I means asking the question.
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, but I mean is that appropriate for this?
Speaker 1: Before we get there? Let's hold that thought. What is
Speaker 1: the score of the game gonna be? I don't really care,
Speaker 1: what does it matter?
Speaker 3: I think it matters because I will back up is
Speaker 3: better than theirs.
Speaker 1: We just talked about good. They're a lot of their
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: Not good.
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying Jacoby said it's one of the better
Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks, so I assume he gets most of the reps.
Speaker 2: I think they put our offense in a better position.
Speaker 3: And I think we have some defensive players that feel
Speaker 3: like they should be first team with Ridgeway, Percy Butler,
Speaker 3: Casey here, these are start. These guys with start the reps.
Speaker 3: So I'm saying maybe we added them out. We got
Speaker 3: a lot of emotion going on, a lot of momentum
Speaker 3: that the crowd behind us.
Speaker 2: I say, we go in there and win twenty four
Speaker 2: to ten.
Speaker 1: Actually that feels good because that Cleveland's offense until Dorian
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson got in looked back.
Speaker 3: Because they look terrible because they like they like Elementary,
Speaker 3: like they like I for Mason, Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Also killing Mad is not. I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: like a real like backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what I.
Speaker 2: Really don't trust Texas in the A and M quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You know, So I agree, I think that what do
Speaker 1: you think? That's how good.
Speaker 4: Story it's it'd be lopsided some times preseason a lot
Speaker 4: of points all the time. You might get a seventeen
Speaker 4: ten or twenty twenty ten game. Who knows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, right, I never know. They might
Speaker 1: be like Jacobe has a good drive and it's like,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 4: That's second third squawk of my dad is thinking, and
Speaker 4: just blow it up.
Speaker 1: They always used to kill me in the locker room
Speaker 1: after when the when the coach was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you know, like that's a good win. You know those
Speaker 1: guys did a good job.
Speaker 2: That was terrible.
Speaker 1: You guys lost second. I'm like, how these guys are even.
Speaker 2: Gonna be there?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, but they playing for they like that would
Speaker 3: make the preseason so passionate that I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: I'm watching it because I know it's gonna be a
Speaker 3: couple of yellow jackers out there that don't got a
Speaker 3: that they're gonna be a yellow jail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: So on that note, best preseason game memory for you,
Speaker 1: Fred Antenna, I've got one for me, but I'd like
Speaker 1: to hear from.
Speaker 2: The rookie year first preseason game. That's the only one
Speaker 2: you actually got butterflies in. Mardy Seanheimer drafted me.
Speaker 3: We were going back to Kansas City for the first game,
Speaker 3: so it meant a lot to him. If you know Marty, Marty,
Speaker 3: you can cry on the drop of a dime, him
Speaker 3: and Dick for meal. They don't need to be at
Speaker 3: no winding our funeral. They will cry. So Marty crying
Speaker 3: before preseason. How Marty cried. I looked around and you
Speaker 3: know Bruce Milvin, Dad Green, They they got on foot
Speaker 3: in this today. Not finna play in the first game.
Speaker 3: And I had to go against Snoop Minutes, which was
Speaker 3: one of my classmates drafted to Kansas City.
Speaker 2: And I never forget.
Speaker 3: They got in the red zone through three fades at
Speaker 3: me in the row. I broke all three of them up,
Speaker 3: and that let me know then that I could play
Speaker 3: in the n UFL.
Speaker 4: I don't know you play the so my rookie year didn't.
Speaker 2: I got hurt.
Speaker 4: I got hurt fan Appreciation night toward my knee, so
Speaker 4: I missed. Like I didn't play that year until week
Speaker 4: twelve that and just think how the game, how fast
Speaker 4: the game.
Speaker 1: Was to me, because that's something fans that understand it
Speaker 1: does ramp.
Speaker 2: It was light spin, bro.
Speaker 4: I mean it was like I got out there running,
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm not as fast as I thought
Speaker 4: I was. But you know, I was hampered a little bit.
Speaker 4: But my favorite preseason game I can say going forward
Speaker 4: the next year when I got my first preseason game,
Speaker 4: I mean it was it wasn't like I went out
Speaker 4: there and did a whole bunch. I caught a big
Speaker 4: sixteen to twenty yard dig route, jumped up and made
Speaker 4: sure I caught it. I did one of those I'm
Speaker 4: gonna catch this ball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is my first I got a
Speaker 2: fall man.
Speaker 4: I jumped up and that thing hit my chest and
Speaker 4: I secured it and came down. I could have kept running,
Speaker 4: but it's preseason. I was just happy to make the catch.
Speaker 4: And this is my second year, really my first year
Speaker 4: playing in it, you know, the preseason game. So I
Speaker 4: was just started.
Speaker 1: Started, started the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I started the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys get hot dogs and stuff afterwards.
Speaker 4: Man, you know, I can't remember the bracket With the Jets,
Speaker 4: we didn't do a lot of that stuff.
Speaker 1: Oh really, no, we was.
Speaker 4: He's a different team.
Speaker 1: How about here talk here man, hot dogs.
Speaker 2: Some flowers, not burgers. Not with Marty Schottenheim.
Speaker 3: Well him on my coach, he was, you came when
Speaker 3: we had when we had Gibbs. All right, so Gibbs,
Speaker 3: Gibbs ain't no, he ain't know. He would just getting
Speaker 3: back into the foe. He said at the time that coach.
Speaker 4: G would have known, he would have been he would
Speaker 4: damn show totally. Boy, we better not better not come
Speaker 4: outside with those damn So.
Speaker 2: What about you? What's your what's your preseason?
Speaker 1: But my preseason experience was much different. I remember we
Speaker 1: were playing the Bills, I think my first game, and
Speaker 1: basically like I didn't stand on the sideline the whole time,
Speaker 1: and the whole time I'm doing like sprints and running
Speaker 1: back and forth because they're like, logan, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: ready to go, gotta be ready, Hey, next drive, you're up,
Speaker 1: And it just was like so I'm like a full sweat,
Speaker 1: like just ready to rock, and.
Speaker 2: It ain't played a day, so I'm out.
Speaker 1: There dripping sweat, wasn't it hoigh That day? It was
Speaker 1: a pretty good game, shogging water, going crazy and then
Speaker 1: like like I remember watching film with Kyle afterwards, He's like,
Speaker 1: who is this psycho? Because the sidelines you could see
Speaker 1: gross and so it's it's it's the fourth quarter. We
Speaker 1: got to go on a four minute drive to win
Speaker 1: the game. Or it was not not quite the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: It was like middle of the fourth court and they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, Logan, you're in and I am geaked right,
Speaker 1: like this is my time. I got to make the
Speaker 1: squad here. And that poor son of a gun on
Speaker 1: the other side had no idea what was coming for
Speaker 1: him because I was like, you know, you know, I
Speaker 1: used to practice like an absolute cycle, and so I
Speaker 1: get out there like I think this is the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: This dude, first play, dumped him over somebody like over
Speaker 1: the pile, shoved him the ground. This poor guy, like
Speaker 1: he's been you can tell he's exhausted. Next play, same thing.
Speaker 1: We're driving the ball down. My hammet pops off. I
Speaker 1: tackle some dude to the ground, like I'm bleeding from
Speaker 1: my forehead. The whole thing. I was out of my mind.
Speaker 2: You went, you went Logan, you went ham On.
Speaker 1: And so the thing was like and it was all blocks.
Speaker 1: It was like nine blocking plays in a row. Like
Speaker 1: everyone wants to everyone wants to leave the stadium, and
Speaker 1: so they're just like trying to get the ball snapped
Speaker 1: his you know, like, yeah, let's get out of here
Speaker 1: running due twenty seven. You have to try to say
Speaker 1: in the moment, and like this poor dude on the
Speaker 1: other side was exhausted, and so like I remember thinking, like, man,
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to take it to him. You have
Speaker 2: to take it to him.
Speaker 1: Again every every play, every player.
Speaker 3: How bad is that as a player, All three us
Speaker 3: explain how bad is it to know that you got
Speaker 3: somebody cut into pre seas?
Speaker 2: Oh dude, I mean it was good riching for me.
Speaker 2: But I was like one of us had to go down.
Speaker 4: I never even thought about him. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Lest I mean, well, you're you're playing with the starters.
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying ships.
Speaker 4: Got their position, took him because of because of something
Speaker 4: that they did against me. But you don't really it's
Speaker 4: like you're in a situation, life of death. It is
Speaker 4: either him or me, right, I mean that's how.
Speaker 1: I look at That sounds crazy, but that's honestly, like,
Speaker 1: that was the mindset when I was running.
Speaker 2: Oh that's my mindset. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I like to think layered stuff.
Speaker 3: So I would get home after the last preseason game
Speaker 3: and I would always like to be thankful that this
Speaker 3: ain't my last game. And then I would think to myself,
Speaker 3: sixth Vicinity, dudes, dream just die.
Speaker 4: But look, no, you've never been in the situation until
Speaker 4: you've been in the situation. I never experienced having to
Speaker 4: play in the third game when we had four games.
Speaker 4: That third game was mostly for the people that had
Speaker 4: to make the make the roster.
Speaker 1: Fourth game, dude, well the fourth.
Speaker 4: Game is a little different than the third game. The
Speaker 4: third game, it's addressed as a guy who've been here
Speaker 4: first round pick play is going to play. You don't
Speaker 4: play the second half here, I am playing the second
Speaker 4: half of my last year. Hear, and I'm like, I
Speaker 4: went in the game. First of all, I win in
Speaker 4: the game mad because I knew I didn't get in
Speaker 4: the game, So that was already my moment of saying.
Speaker 2: Your emotions already played me this year.
Speaker 4: You know it tried me. So me and me and ike,
Speaker 4: me and I had a little way of communicating. When
Speaker 4: I was talking, he looking at me like and basically
Speaker 4: his expression was like, oh, je you see this. And
Speaker 4: I'm looking I'm shaking my head like and I'm saying
Speaker 4: to myself trying.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And so I get in the game, playing against the
Speaker 4: Ravens we at their stadium. I get in the game
Speaker 4: and I'm like wanting to get these little young.
Speaker 2: Cast the business.
Speaker 4: Two plays bing bing, third play, touchdown, got somebody cut
Speaker 4: this what?
Speaker 2: I spin the ball over on the.
Speaker 4: Sideline DJ like Tanner boy, they tripped.
Speaker 2: I say no.
Speaker 4: Me and Jay grew and look at each other. He say,
Speaker 4: I don't need to see no more like you damn right,
Speaker 4: you don't need to see no.
Speaker 2: Hey.
Speaker 4: I was furious, and so Sean if they come over
Speaker 4: to me, you know Sean and I know he was
Speaker 4: just doing what he had to do. He's like, all right,
Speaker 4: tan On, you are you good? You don't you know?
Speaker 4: I have to go back out there. But I want
Speaker 4: to say, Sean, y'all, like you know why y'all tried
Speaker 4: me like that, and then I realized, because you know,
Speaker 4: the media will tell you so that somebody set up
Speaker 4: they camera and show they mic in my face. After
Speaker 4: the game, was like, so, how does it feel to
Speaker 4: be on the bubble? They not to know if you're
Speaker 4: gonna make the squad. I said, well, first, I ain't
Speaker 4: know I was on the bubble.
Speaker 2: Niggall the ball.
Speaker 4: The way they played me tonight, that'd be their decision.
Speaker 4: They gonna cut me because I could play anywhere, you know.
Speaker 4: And Jay told me, like going into the locker room, like, man,
Speaker 4: I really didn't need to see you. But with the
Speaker 4: guys we have, you know, we're trying to, you know,
Speaker 4: see what I want to put you out there, I
Speaker 4: don't need to see it. Next week you made the team.
Speaker 4: I was like, you couldn't even have to tell me
Speaker 4: I made the team, because if I didn't make your team,
Speaker 4: I was gonna make somebody else's team. But I understood
Speaker 4: what was going on with bringing in Andre Roberts down
Speaker 4: and getting d Jack on a humbum. We basically took
Speaker 4: Andre Robins position, slid him in front of me because
Speaker 4: he's a young guy and got paid more and d
Speaker 4: Jack got his. You know, it was just a number thing.
Speaker 4: I didn't understand how that felt until I was in
Speaker 4: that situation.
Speaker 1: Reminded me of so when I was in Atlanta. It
Speaker 1: was my tenth year, my tenth preseason, right and I
Speaker 1: was out there with I looked at the huddle and
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm about to get cut because it's me.
Speaker 1: You're ten and a bunch of like rookies.
Speaker 2: The first year.
Speaker 1: Way we were out there, we like didn't have enough
Speaker 1: old lineman or something. So they got d lineman playing
Speaker 1: old line and they got and I'm literally standing there
Speaker 1: like on the ball and I had to go through
Speaker 1: and like tell every single person what to do. And
Speaker 1: I was like, this is like there's no way you're
Speaker 1: making this team. Like there's no way, and like it
Speaker 1: was just like it was just such a surreal experience
Speaker 1: because it was like the first quarter and I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to play a whole game, not get hurt
Speaker 1: and try to make another team. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like this this super clear awareness.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, well screw.
Speaker 4: I took my head off to you guys. Y'all had
Speaker 4: to have dann y'all head because that was my first
Speaker 4: experience of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was you.
Speaker 4: It was your fourteen, so you would say, you would
Speaker 4: say we damn ten year fourteen. Him, No, I mean
Speaker 4: I care less cause I'm running circles around the cast
Speaker 4: as out here, eight year fourteen. So I just didn't
Speaker 4: feel that that was appropriate because I feel still it's
Speaker 4: guys I played with that had long careers. They knew
Speaker 4: before they went into a game what was going on. Yeah,
Speaker 4: not to know, and then putting that that's the worst
Speaker 4: feeling ever.
Speaker 3: Though, Hey, you hear that that old spiritual change gonna come?
Speaker 2: Then you on your land in the seague?
Speaker 4: I was, I know?
Speaker 3: Did I like the reap were coming from me? I
Speaker 3: just take out running out of the l the time.
Speaker 2: Don't show now, I tell you.
Speaker 1: The land of the dude came and got me in
Speaker 1: the shower. When I was shower, I was but naked,
Speaker 1: naked you came in and grabbed me. I got to
Speaker 1: see it. I was like, my God, like you can't
Speaker 1: wait time.
Speaker 2: In here with a pitchful come on close and n
Speaker 2: dead man. I wanted you say I'm gonna make him weak.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it longer, use every piece of so
Speaker 4: I told the dude here, I was like, if.
Speaker 3: You ever come looking for me, you better not look
Speaker 3: it because if you look at me, I'm gonna take
Speaker 3: out run.
Speaker 2: You know you need my playbook for this to be official.
Speaker 2: I will run and get I ain't coming back.
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