1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: We got so much exclusive Commander's content. This week we 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: got something special Game Day Live with Jenkins and Santanamos. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: Are you excited, Bud? 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: And then in the regular season be Mitch is gonna 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: join you too. Yes, that's awesome, man. We got a 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: new pot and that heals me to say, but it's 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: get loud, Fred smoot, Michael Jenkins, how's that going for 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: your friend? 10 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: Woa he do it? Whoa he do it? 11 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: And then we got Command Center of the flagship show 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: that will recap everything from the preseason game in Cleveland. 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: So make sure you keep subscribing and consuming Commander's content. 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: with farmer Fred. 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I go by now. I'm a nurturer. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: Yes, got watermelon from whatever day that was Tuesday. 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: I got this smith cant of dirt sent from Mississippi 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: to Virginia so I could. 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: Grew it the way of my end Tan. 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: That was pretty good. 22 00:00:58,480 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: Huh it was. 23 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: It's still on my mind. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 4: A little bit. I'm sitting here like Fred and grow 25 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 4: that down. 26 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 27 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 4: But if he did, he. 28 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Did, Yes, I did. I grew it with love grew. 29 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: You are very loving towards your your produce. 30 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Thank you man. 31 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: You go what you said last week, you said on 32 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Tuesday you said, I grow with the strawberries with peppers 33 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: or the bugs don't get there. 34 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to learn these these tricks. 35 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 3: Like the worst thing you can ever do the vegetables 36 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 3: and fruit is put pesticide on. I know why you're 37 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 3: doing it, to keep the to keep the bugs out 38 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: so you can eventually eat it. But you got to 39 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: come up with some more shifty ways to make that hat, 40 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 3: especially when you're doing at your house. 41 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 4: I just can't imagine Fred ready to get the time 42 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: from the city. 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 2: And play in the dirt basically what I'm doing. 44 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: Like do you put like overalls on Fred and like 45 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: a straw I. 46 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 2: Don't really get into characters like I go out there. 47 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Like I told you, I listened to my music, and 48 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: as I listen to my music, I might be trimming 49 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 3: some weeds. I might be picking some stuff up. It's 50 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 3: just difference, man, It's different. 51 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: So we got an exciting show. We are previewing preseason 52 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: game one versus the Cleveland Browns, and so Ron hasn't 53 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: talked a ton about what the plan is or anything 54 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: like that. But if you guys were head coach, how 55 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: would you approach reps times? What do you want to see? 56 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Let's start with Tanne. 57 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna jump out there and say, from just 58 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 4: my experience, the coaches like to get everybody in that 59 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: season opener mindset. I know it's a preseason yes, but 60 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 4: we want to make sure everybody know this is how 61 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: we prepare for games. So the next game when it 62 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 4: gets a little more critical, in the next game when 63 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: it gets critical, then by the time we want come 64 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 4: we already went through the format. So this should be like, 65 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: you know, dress rehearsal for you guys. So we go 66 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: through dress rehearsal. We're going to show you guys how 67 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 4: we prepare. We're going to have a period in there 68 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: where we go over the script that plays that we're 69 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 4: going to have, and so on and so on. I 70 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 4: think every game is basically every preseason game is just 71 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 4: like you warming up for the game, showing these guys 72 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: that if you make the team, this is what we 73 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: expect out of you. But due to the fact that 74 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: just the first preseason game we got to get these 75 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 4: guys that's going to probably play the most to have 76 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: that kind of game sense of mindset, you know what 77 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 4: I mean, I know the starters and the guys who's 78 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 4: going to make the squad. You kind of almost like 79 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: rest my son, flout Seeds. I'm ready to be sitting 80 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 4: on the sideline watching these other guys play. But you 81 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 4: got to get those young guys and everybody who's on 82 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: that bubble and those guys who's trying to make the 83 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 4: squad to have that mindset. This is how we're going 84 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 4: to prepare for the game. 85 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Sam can't play no less than twenty plays 86 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, he's the guy that I need out there. 87 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: So if he's out there, my first whole line out there. 88 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: I would never let him go out there without their 89 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 3: first old line out there to protect him. So they 90 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 3: need to get in the mind frame of twenty plus plays. 91 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: Either it's on you. Either two good drives, whatever you want. 92 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 2: You can be out of here any and of the 93 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: first if you want to. 94 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: So at the end of the day, I want I 95 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 3: want to see least sixty plays from him in the 96 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: preseason same how total. 97 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: So even in the Baltimore game, you wanted to play. 98 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: If I like the one thing coaches, they cannot afford 99 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: to start slow this year. 100 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any of your excuses. 101 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 3: This is why out in a backup, like, because if 102 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 3: I need you to play, I know what I'm. 103 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: Getting I have to put. 104 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 3: I can't say I'm going to give Sam hit the 105 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: best chance to succeed when I'm not working you in 106 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 3: that preseason, knowing I can get you some rips against 107 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: the second team on some guys, I can get you some. 108 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: Rips with the first team. 109 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: Fire his our offensive line, maybe some wide house, maybe 110 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: some tight ends. 111 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: I just need him to get to work. 112 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: Is there any concern about injury? Not necessarily to Sam, 113 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: but to one of the other starters that has to 114 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: be in when Sam is in You know you got Leno, 115 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: who's an experienced guy, Gates, I've been around a little bit. 116 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: I need you in there. So if he's in there, 117 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: you in there. 118 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: Last year they did the Lucas thing, like Leno, who's 119 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: the ten year eleven year guy comes out, Lucas goes in, Yeah, 120 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: or Carnage Lucas. Excuse me, but so old lines in? 121 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Are the receivers in with him? 122 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 4: I want to see everybody. 123 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna cut you off free. 124 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: I just want to see everybody give him, give him 125 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: a series, give him a chance to move the ball 126 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 4: together once they get that first down. I seen enough, 127 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 4: you know, however you are, you know, I just I 128 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: just feel like it's crazy that we sit here and 129 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: you brought up that whole thing about do we you know, 130 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: have that in the back of our heads about anybody 131 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 4: getting injured. Man for my first let's say ten years 132 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 4: of my career, Yeah, we played in the preseason. Our 133 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 4: coaches didn't worry about nobody not being there available. Now, 134 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 4: we did have Chad Pennington go down one time in 135 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 4: the preseason, but Chad was out there playing like he 136 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: was in regular season for him, trying to scramble and 137 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 4: slide and do all that other stuff. So you have 138 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 4: to risk that sometime. But at the same time, you're 139 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: thinking about how much can I give these guys to 140 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 4: get them physically and mentally ready for the next step 141 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 4: and the next step and then week one. 142 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you said mentally ready, because that's really kind 143 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: of what it is. 144 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: Right. 145 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: It's like you've kind of ramped training camp, you know, 146 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: no pads, pads, first preseason game, it's like you go 147 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: to the stadium, you get dressed, you do your warm up, 148 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: you start your routine. So there's a lot of value 149 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: there and then there's a little bit of extra emotion. 150 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: Right it's not crazy, yeah, like. 151 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: Just like but it's ratching up man games now, I 152 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: think you. 153 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 2: Can't look at it like you did when we had 154 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: four games three. 155 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 3: It's like, way, I might have to play him in 156 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: this first one because the second game is really our 157 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: game and the third with nobody played. 158 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: So it's like, well, it'd be interesting because also I 159 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: think that when you have a joint practice with the team. 160 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 2: Usually it's where we win in it, that's where we win. 161 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Usually the starters won't play, you know what I'm saying, Like, 162 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: so it'll be a backup game. So he's really got 163 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: to play in this one or. 164 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 3: Not be seen in the preseason, and we can't afford 165 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 3: they like I'm sorry, he might got. 166 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: To give me ten to fifteen plays against the Ravens 167 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 2: second team. If that's what they playing, so be it. 168 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: But we know how Ravens are. 169 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 4: I want the reps regardless of who out there. If 170 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 4: you can, if you got your second guys in us, 171 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: so be it. We're fina, We're finna make them wish 172 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 4: that they went on the field, you know what I mean? 173 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think for Sam, I think we 174 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: all agree he's got to get reps right. But the 175 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: thing that gets me is like, if he's out there, 176 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: you're starting on lines out there? Yeah, can you risk again? 177 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: Risk and injury to that group? 178 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 2: Sports? 179 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: Sports is about injuries. Guess what next? Man up mentality, 180 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: that's how you truly feel. We've been rosched building right 181 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: when you roster Bill to have flexibility. 182 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: So he talked a lot about the offense right there, 183 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: and I think because that's kind of where the storyline is. Like, 184 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: another thing I want to ask you, Tennant and Fred too, 185 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: is what kind of game plan are you putting in? 186 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: Because I remember early preseason it was like hey, man 187 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: day one, day two in saw go have fun and 188 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: you could just play as fast as you wanted to. 189 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: There was no like real game plan. It wasn't like 190 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: let's scheme up Cleveland's defense. It was like, hey, we're 191 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: running stick flat, running double stick, We're running basics. You 192 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Nothing too crazy you because it 193 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: is Sam. No, you want to see someone No. 194 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Because I need to hide my offense, my true outfense 195 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: from people. So I for me to have that first 196 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: five six weeks of unpredictability play Collein wise, I cannot 197 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: show you who I really am in I'll season like 198 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: I'm running certain plays for Sam to see him make 199 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: some throws. 200 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 2: This is not my offense. We are. It's part of 201 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: my offense, but. 202 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: It's not like how I'm gonna formation is. 203 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 2: It's not I'm an attack you in the first three 204 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: weeks before well. 205 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 4: One of the things that I love and I always 206 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 4: think back and reflect on stuff that I experienced. When 207 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 4: you asked me that question, the first thing I thought 208 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: it back about, you know, playing with Caldom. I feel 209 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 4: like we ran out. We ran our stuff. Now we 210 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 4: probably have so many other ways of getting to what 211 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: we do in formations. It wasn't all the formations, but 212 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 4: it was the basic stuff that we ran. I was running, 213 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 4: you know, option routes in the preseason. I was running 214 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: sticks routes in the preseason. I was running. 215 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: In the preseason. 216 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: So we ran our stuff, but it just was like 217 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 4: the generic part of it, Like it was just like 218 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: simple base, you know, basic, you know the formations you know, 219 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 4: so I would say we I'm pretty sure this officers 220 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 4: have the same same, same way of going about business. 221 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: You know, run your stuff, get to what you're trying 222 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: to get to see what you're trying to see. But 223 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 4: don't go out there with a whole bunch of you know, 224 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: different formations and showing the world whatever you know what 225 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: you can do. 226 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I. 227 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Think that's actually yeah, I think I think it'll probably 228 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: look something like that. You know, it'll be interesting to 229 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: se how many say players if it's team twenty five. 230 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: It's almost damned if you do. Damned if you don't. 231 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 3: Because if you don't play him in those snaps and 232 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 3: we started out slow, everybody be like, well then, because 233 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 3: you treated him like a ten year starter in the preseason. 234 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 3: So I think we just got to throw it in, 235 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: throw it in the hats to see what happened. 236 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, But else, I think they You could also hypothetically, 237 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play. I think he's gonna play 238 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty five snaps. Like you, Fred, I'm in 239 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: that same boat. But you could also lean on that 240 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore practice and be like, we're gonna get to see him. 241 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: This and this way, you're gonna get the real this one. 242 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 3: I can run my play, I can run my plagues 243 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 3: against the Ravens that closed practice. 244 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. All right, So that's offense defense very 245 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: very different in terms of how much they're gonna play, 246 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: how much we need to see him. What would you 247 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: do with that starting in D line or any of 248 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: those guys playing. I mean, I don't even really want 249 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: to play Casey two Hill and. 250 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 2: James wi Williams. I'm like, you got it. 251 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: I'm a guy that played in the two thousand. We 252 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 3: played preseason game, I know. 253 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: But you didn't have joint practices. You know things we 254 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: practice against the. 255 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: Jets against you guys. 256 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: Would do the practice and then you would go play 257 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: the preseason game. 258 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: We just yeah, so we we did the same thing 259 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 4: with the Jets. When I was the Jets, we played 260 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 4: practice against the Giants, played in the preseason game. And 261 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 4: when I got here, every year we went against the 262 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: Rape every every year, played them in that preseason game. 263 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: And you were playing there even though you practice against them. 264 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and you know, the Ravens love to win the 265 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 3: preseason so they got first team and the undefeated defeated. 266 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: Up to last year, they never lost the game. 267 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Seriously, that's wild and so again, So I guess my 268 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: question is, so Sanzo, I know you're an old head 269 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: and you want them to play, but do they do 270 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you do they need to play? 271 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 4: Give me five or six players? 272 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, give me something. Then stand up for these guys. 273 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: Just put your hand in the dirt. Showed me that 274 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: you're ready. You know what I mean? You know I'm 275 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 4: with you. 276 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: But like for fans, why is that important? Like why 277 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: is it important just to get them out there for 278 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: a couple. 279 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: They coming, They coming to see those guys anywhere. We're 280 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: not out here. We're not out here to serve our 281 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 4: fans right now, although we are in the business of 282 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 4: serving and make sure that they're happy and we put 283 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: on a great show. But they also have to understand 284 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 4: preseason and you want to see these guys be their 285 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 4: best more. 286 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: What I'm saying is like, why is it important for 287 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 1: fans for them to just be out there for a 288 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: couple of steps. You know what I'm saying. It's not 289 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: like we're not doing it for the fans. 290 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 3: A lot of times, like we don't want them to 291 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 3: get but no, no, I need them to be out 292 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 3: there because I can't hide you football players from football. 293 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 2: I'm tired of people. 294 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 4: You don't even know how it is to go against 295 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 4: somebody else. They need to feel how they need to 296 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 4: prepare that. Like you always said, your mind and you 297 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: know mentally you need to go out there and hit 298 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: somebody else's helm the. 299 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: First time you make attack. I should not be against 300 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 3: Coke McCoy. 301 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: That's a great point, like one hundred percent agree. Like 302 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, when I was at Atlanta, I was like, 303 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: how do you feel about the preseason? Like I gotta 304 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: have one where I'm playing like a half and that's 305 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: just gets it sets this table mentally for me for 306 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: the years. 307 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: And you see how you say mentally, that's how I 308 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 4: was as a receiver. I used to tell myself, I 309 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 4: need to get one catch a preseason game and that's 310 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: going to build me up to going. I remember one pre. 311 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 2: Seas game I had about four or five catch. 312 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 4: I was like, man, this is too much, you know, 313 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 4: but I always wanted at least one catch. I think 314 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: the preseason is very important just mentally for all of us, 315 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 4: but we understand as a lot of guys it's more 316 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 4: important because they have to make you know, make a. 317 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: Squad absolutely, So for let's talk about position battles. Anybody 318 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: that you've got an ion specifically, I know Forbes, the 319 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: young guy right. You want to see him. Do we 320 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: get any information about how they're going to utilize the 321 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: corners in this situation. 322 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: I want to see klun Moyd because he one of 323 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: the guys in the puzzle. 324 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't know exactly where his. 325 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: Piece is at, so he one of those guys I 326 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 3: want to see. I want to see Percy Butler. 327 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: He's been a little quiet. 328 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 2: I want to see I want to see him. I 329 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: want to see Collie Hudson. 330 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: You know it's kind of different. You want to see 331 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Percy to see if he comes to life. Yeah, and 332 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: you want to see Kaleik to see if it's real. 333 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: Keep going, keep going. We keep gaining this momentum that 334 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: he got. 335 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: So I got some guys that I know gonna play 336 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: some reps that I want to see, Like I want 337 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: to see John. I want to see big Ridgeway out 338 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 3: there because he gonna have that mind frame that I 339 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 3: shouldn't be out here. You know how it is like 340 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: a guy that played his way to some respect, but 341 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: you still like the fifth gown on the depth charge, 342 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: but I want to see him mavel some people out 343 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: there because he don't want to be out there. 344 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: So it's a couple. 345 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 3: Of guys out there for different reasons that I want 346 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: to see. 347 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: You know. I want to see some of the young receivers, 348 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 4: you know, I want to see Alan. I want to 349 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 4: see how special can he be on a special teams, 350 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: you know, standpoint of it in Tensionly all those guys, 351 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 4: I want to see who are going to be that 352 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: bubble guy or the guy that we say, okay, he's 353 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 4: good enough to be on the practice squad because we 354 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: can't you know, you know, we can't risk let someone 355 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: else get them. But I also want to see those 356 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: tight ends. I'm wondering where who's the third guy? What 357 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 4: is turning going to be that guy this year that 358 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 4: we can kind of want to go out there and 359 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: do some things, you know. 360 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting one because it's like with 361 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: Logan out, a guy that's going to play a lot 362 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: of football for this team is gonna have to play 363 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. So who's that going to be? 364 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: Who's going to be out Jude? Is it? 365 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 2: John bas base Motel. 366 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's gotta be. I mean, 367 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe Cole's got that roster. 368 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I say Judd because he does nothing special. 369 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 3: He's just good at everything. And I know how coach 370 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: is about blocking. So he's the best blocker at the group. 371 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 3: Can we can we say. 372 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: That, I mean, best blocker in the league. 373 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. So, And I think he's one of those guys. 374 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: This sneakily fast, didn't you think he is? So like he. 375 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 3: Reminds me of Jay Novacheck. Just I just do whatever 376 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: you ask me. 377 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: He's the guy that quietly, if they wanted to throw 378 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 4: the ball to him more, he can be very productive 379 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: in the passing game as well, but they don't. But 380 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 4: the times that he has, you'd be like this, I 381 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 4: can catch. Just give him enough, you know, give him 382 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: enough plays in the game where he's going to touch 383 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 4: the ball because he can actually, you know, go out 384 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 4: there and sneaky and beat some guys. And so y'all 385 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: love to see what goes on him too. But I 386 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 4: think he's he's solidified that he's number two, you know 387 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 4: what I mean? 388 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: So for me other Titans, it is probably Curtis Hodges 389 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: because he's the guy at practice. He's got silky smooth out. 390 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: He's this big six. 391 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: Eight guy, built like a Greek guy. 392 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: I want to see it. I want to see it 393 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: come together. And sometimes guys need the preseason game for 394 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: it to come together. Because he's good, he doesn't finish plays. 395 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 3: There's a like, so you you saying that the switch 396 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: has it flipped. 397 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: It looks like to me, it looks like you know 398 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he still thinking too much. It's 399 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: like still thinking too much. It's not quite there yet. 400 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping get him out to practice, let him, 401 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: let him just go and then see what happens and 402 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: maybe you get a good result. But I agree with Tan. 403 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Also the receivers you know, Brice and Tremaine, Tinsley, Allen Sample, 404 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: all those guys are good football players. 405 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: Dammy Brown gots to play too. And I think it's 406 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: still some room for him. Like I think he's one 407 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: of them guys. 408 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Is it real? Is it real? 409 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 2: Yes? 410 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: So I think he's one of them guys that you're like, 411 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 3: all right, well, he gonna make the roster, but we 412 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: want to see him play in the preseason like he's 413 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: at he's at that point, like put it like this. 414 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: He's gonna play a lot. 415 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: How can I trust you to go out there and 416 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: beat number one defenses and you can't in the preseason 417 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 3: go beat somebody number twos like I should go out 418 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 3: there and dominate the number twos like they number two. 419 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 4: He winning this year. I don't care what dim and 420 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: Bryant is gonna sow the world this year. Boy, this 421 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 4: is what y'all have been expected from me. He winning 422 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 4: this year because I haven't seen a practice yet where 423 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 4: he took a step back. 424 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, but also say this like that's another reason why 425 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: you got the preseason. It's like, is it fugazi or 426 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: is it real? 427 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: Right? 428 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: Does he get out there and drop the ball and 429 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: not look like himself? I think I agree with Tanner 430 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: like he's looked great. I think he'll continue to look great. 431 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: The one that I'm going to keep an eye on 432 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: to in addition offensively is the offensive line. Offensive line depth. 433 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: I think the offensive line is. 434 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: Why did you say that with like express and did 435 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 3: some stink in you? Like yeah, you just your nose 436 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 3: crushed up, like. 437 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: You have no faith? 438 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 4: Fired up? 439 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm because I actually think that they are. They're getting 440 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: better each if you'll watch those one on ones. You're 441 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: getting better. 442 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 4: You got no choice but to get better with the 443 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: defensive front. 444 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: But I think, but yeah, it's exactly right. So I 445 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: think they're going to be how they look against like 446 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: mere Mortals. Yeah, I doubt Miles Garrett is gonna play right. 447 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: So and then the depth there right, you know, you 448 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,120 Speaker 1: got Mason Brooks, the guy that I think is really 449 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: playing really well. Joan Smith is another guy that's been 450 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: playing really well. And then Braydon Daniels is a guy 451 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: that struggled a little bit in camp. Does he maybe 452 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: come to life in the game. And then also the 453 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: center from Arkansas whose name is case Smith at the moment, yeah, Stromberger, 454 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: how does he look because he's he's making the roster? Yeah, 455 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: so you know how how how do those kind of 456 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: four guys look because I think they're all kind of 457 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: fighting for that spot and if Sadik plays, how does 458 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: Chris look like? Those are to me that those are 459 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: kind of the things to keep an eye on offensively, 460 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: and I think I think those that second group of 461 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: guys that just mentioned is going to play a lot 462 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: of football. 463 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: Well. Who Elvia wins dick guard spot with Sadiq. 464 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they become the dep who whoever loses the job, 465 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 3: dem and Cane is Lucas become the majority of your swingman. 466 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: Depp right there with with Scromberg backing up Nick Gates. 467 00:17:55,680 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: Also we mentioned we mentioned the receivers right returner. You 468 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: excited for that. 469 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 4: Like I said, you know, that's one of the reason 470 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: why I want to see Cashmere. All I want to 471 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 4: see where he how special can he be was on 472 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: special teams, because I think that's what's going to solidify 473 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: a spot as a received on his team. On returner 474 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 4: has to be big for him. You have to have 475 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 4: that already. Pencil didn't say you don't make it here. 476 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna make. 477 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: Because you have to have Yeah, I guess he does. 478 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: He's gonna have to make a play. He has to 479 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: make a play. I tell you who I don't want to. 480 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: See, No, no, no, But linebacker is the only one 481 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about linebacker, Jamie Davis. What 482 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: is the expectation of that group? What do you want 483 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: to see? I guess specifically from Jamen from from the 484 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: group as a whole, to kind of say like they 485 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: are where we thought they were there? Where they need 486 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: to be like. 487 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 3: Well, I'm gonna tell you how people really think about 488 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: it outside of this city and football people. If you 489 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: can't play good linebacker in this D line, how good 490 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 3: are you? Because you're never going to be double team. 491 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: You're never they're never gonna address you first. They always ain't. 492 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: Nobody gonna be like, let's run the Bible. We need 493 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: to get second level. No, we need to start at 494 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 3: first level. So if you can't run sideline and sideline 495 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 3: with this defense, you can't get through gaps. 496 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: I find it very hard for the people that think 497 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: you could do it. 498 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 3: So when it comes to the linebackers, we want you 499 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: to meet your potential, and if the potentially is just. 500 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: Good, so be it. 501 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: We need you to be good behind a great defensive 502 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 3: line and what could be a great secondary, So just 503 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 3: be good. 504 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: I think, just just speaking on that, that's why Jamie 505 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 4: played as good as he played last year. I think 506 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 4: he was phenomenal last year. And despite some of the 507 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: stuff that was said earlier in the season, yeah, he 508 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: flew around. Now when things hit the fan, when you know, 509 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: Hokum got out the game and now he had to 510 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 4: have a larger role, I think he still showed up. 511 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: He wasn't playing his traditional you know position all the time. 512 00:19:57,720 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 4: But I still feel like, man, when you had that 513 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 4: front five, man put me in line. 514 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: No, no, it's I'm gonna get in there. 515 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: I might be coming lower every time, but. 516 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 2: Chance your chances. I'm sorry, And that's how people are 517 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: gonna look at it. 518 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: You gotta ask yourself, if your offense about to play us, 519 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: who are you worried about? 520 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean, no question about a defensive line. 521 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: Right, that's where every things start. 522 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: So also with Jamie, he's been flashing a little bit 523 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: in practice. Again, it's the consistency, like he flashes huge splash, 524 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: plays big hits and you're like, is that the right 525 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: run fit? Is he in the right spot in coverage? 526 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how he looks in the 527 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: game situation when versus a simplistic offense, because I doubt 528 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: the Browns are going to be going crazy out there. 529 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but we can't can't sleep on the Browns. 530 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go online and say the Browns could be 531 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 3: one of the most dangerous teams in the AFC next year. 532 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: You're talking about Washington had a year back to come back. 533 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 3: You're talking about them. They signed Elijah uh from the 534 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: Jets just more more eligah more, and they got a 535 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 3: money coop, I mean a money coop they got in joke, 536 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: at the tight end position. They got Nick Chubb, one 537 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: of the best becks, if not. 538 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: The best back in the league. 539 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: Kareem Kareem dint comeback, So I said, so, so you 540 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 4: know now how much of that. 541 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Plays an effect on Chubb and curiousness, I'm not saying. 542 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 1: I guess. I guess. The thing I'm thinking about with 543 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: Cleveland is like how much of the starters gonna play? Like, 544 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: you know, what's their plan? 545 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 3: We're very similar because our quarterback is we both got 546 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 3: starters that still need reps, like the Shaun still needs reps, 547 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 3: like he ain't old the Shaun yet, and I think 548 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: he's I think this summer probably help him get back there. 549 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 3: Nothing but football, but Steve, I would not be shocked 550 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 3: if they played him reps. 551 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I guess that makes a lot of sense. 552 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: And the backups there are not great. It's like Kellen 553 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: Mond and you know, oh the kids from say your guy, 554 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: my god, Bruin's hyphen up hyphen hyphen something. 555 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: Thomas Thompson, You're not really a Brewin fan because I 556 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 2: know I stay bulleted out. I'm just being mine it. 557 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: But Dorian Thompson, I mean Dorian what's his name? Thumps? 558 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Also, Big Dwan Jones is on the Cleveland Browns Thanos himself. 559 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: So being he didn't he looked kind of slow footed. 560 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. He looks slow footed in college, 561 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: but his length and his strength like it's unbearable. And 562 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: so the thing about him is like I was watching 563 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: him because I was doing an eval for somebody, and 564 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: I was like, he's like he's like a starting tackle 565 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: and he's just like a sugar And I was like 566 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: watching their line and that's that Bill callahandle line just 567 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: dudes just grinding, getting after it, perfect technique, understanding how 568 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: to use different sets. So I do think I'm really 569 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: excited to see our two's against there too, Yes, And 570 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if there're ones play like that's 571 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: a good that's a well coach offensive line that that 572 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 1: they do a lot in the run game. Yeah, he's 573 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,479 Speaker 1: a little different in terms of pin pool stuff. Yeah, 574 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: so I'm excited to see what that looks like. 575 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 3: Do you know what we used to Kyle taking the 576 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 3: Browns to the Super Bowl. 577 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I means asking the question. 578 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,959 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, but I mean is that appropriate for this? 579 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: Before we get there? Let's hold that thought. What is 580 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: the score of the game gonna be? I don't really care, 581 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: what does it matter? 582 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: I think it matters because I will back up is 583 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: better than theirs. 584 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: We just talked about good. They're a lot of their 585 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks. 586 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 4: Not good. 587 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 3: No, I'm saying Jacoby said it's one of the better 588 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: backup quarterbacks, so I assume he gets most of the reps. 589 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: I think they put our offense in a better position. 590 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 3: And I think we have some defensive players that feel 591 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 3: like they should be first team with Ridgeway, Percy Butler, 592 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: Casey here, these are start. These guys with start the reps. 593 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 3: So I'm saying maybe we added them out. We got 594 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: a lot of emotion going on, a lot of momentum 595 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 3: that the crowd behind us. 596 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: I say, we go in there and win twenty four 597 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: to ten. 598 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: Actually that feels good because that Cleveland's offense until Dorian 599 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson got in looked back. 600 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: Because they look terrible because they like they like Elementary, 601 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 3: like they like I for Mason, Yeah, but. 602 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Also killing Mad is not. I don't know if he's 603 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: like a real like backup quarterback. 604 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 605 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what I. 606 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: Really don't trust Texas in the A and M quarterbacks. 607 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: You know, So I agree, I think that what do 608 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: you think? That's how good. 609 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: Story it's it'd be lopsided some times preseason a lot 610 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 4: of points all the time. You might get a seventeen 611 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 4: ten or twenty twenty ten game. Who knows. 612 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you never know, right, I never know. They might 613 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: be like Jacobe has a good drive and it's like, 614 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 1: all right. 615 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: That's second third squawk of my dad is thinking, and 616 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 4: just blow it up. 617 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: They always used to kill me in the locker room 618 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: after when the when the coach was like, hey, guys, 619 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, like that's a good win. You know those 620 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: guys did a good job. 621 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: That was terrible. 622 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: You guys lost second. I'm like, how these guys are even. 623 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 2: Gonna be there? 624 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 3: Like yeah, but they playing for they like that would 625 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: make the preseason so passionate that I love it. 626 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: I love it. 627 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: I'm watching it because I know it's gonna be a 628 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: couple of yellow jackers out there that don't got a 629 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 3: that they're gonna be a yellow jail. 630 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's true. 631 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: All right. 632 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: So on that note, best preseason game memory for you, 633 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 1: Fred Antenna, I've got one for me, but I'd like 634 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: to hear from. 635 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: The rookie year first preseason game. That's the only one 636 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: you actually got butterflies in. Mardy Seanheimer drafted me. 637 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: We were going back to Kansas City for the first game, 638 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: so it meant a lot to him. If you know Marty, Marty, 639 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 3: you can cry on the drop of a dime, him 640 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: and Dick for meal. They don't need to be at 641 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 3: no winding our funeral. They will cry. So Marty crying 642 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: before preseason. How Marty cried. I looked around and you 643 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 3: know Bruce Milvin, Dad Green, They they got on foot 644 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 3: in this today. Not finna play in the first game. 645 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: And I had to go against Snoop Minutes, which was 646 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 3: one of my classmates drafted to Kansas City. 647 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 2: And I never forget. 648 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 3: They got in the red zone through three fades at 649 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: me in the row. I broke all three of them up, 650 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: and that let me know then that I could play 651 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 3: in the n UFL. 652 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: I don't know you play the so my rookie year didn't. 653 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: I got hurt. 654 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 4: I got hurt fan Appreciation night toward my knee, so 655 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 4: I missed. Like I didn't play that year until week 656 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 4: twelve that and just think how the game, how fast 657 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 4: the game. 658 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Was to me, because that's something fans that understand it 659 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: does ramp. 660 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: It was light spin, bro. 661 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 4: I mean it was like I got out there running, 662 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm not as fast as I thought 663 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 4: I was. But you know, I was hampered a little bit. 664 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: But my favorite preseason game I can say going forward 665 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 4: the next year when I got my first preseason game, 666 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: I mean it was it wasn't like I went out 667 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 4: there and did a whole bunch. I caught a big 668 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 4: sixteen to twenty yard dig route, jumped up and made 669 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 4: sure I caught it. I did one of those I'm 670 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: gonna catch this ball. 671 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is my first I got a 672 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 2: fall man. 673 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 4: I jumped up and that thing hit my chest and 674 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 4: I secured it and came down. I could have kept running, 675 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 4: but it's preseason. I was just happy to make the catch. 676 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 4: And this is my second year, really my first year 677 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 4: playing in it, you know, the preseason game. So I 678 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: was just started. 679 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: Started, started the game. 680 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I started the game. 681 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys get hot dogs and stuff afterwards. 682 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: Man, you know, I can't remember the bracket With the Jets, 683 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 4: we didn't do a lot of that stuff. 684 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh really, no, we was. 685 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 4: He's a different team. 686 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: How about here talk here man, hot dogs. 687 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 2: Some flowers, not burgers. Not with Marty Schottenheim. 688 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: Well him on my coach, he was, you came when 689 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: we had when we had Gibbs. All right, so Gibbs, 690 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 3: Gibbs ain't no, he ain't know. He would just getting 691 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 3: back into the foe. He said at the time that coach. 692 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 4: G would have known, he would have been he would 693 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 4: damn show totally. Boy, we better not better not come 694 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 4: outside with those damn So. 695 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: What about you? What's your what's your preseason? 696 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: But my preseason experience was much different. I remember we 697 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: were playing the Bills, I think my first game, and 698 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: basically like I didn't stand on the sideline the whole time, 699 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: and the whole time I'm doing like sprints and running 700 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: back and forth because they're like, logan, you're gonna be 701 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: ready to go, gotta be ready, Hey, next drive, you're up, 702 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: And it just was like so I'm like a full sweat, 703 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: like just ready to rock, and. 704 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: It ain't played a day, so I'm out. 705 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: There dripping sweat, wasn't it hoigh That day? It was 706 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: a pretty good game, shogging water, going crazy and then 707 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: like like I remember watching film with Kyle afterwards, He's like, 708 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: who is this psycho? Because the sidelines you could see 709 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: gross and so it's it's it's the fourth quarter. We 710 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: got to go on a four minute drive to win 711 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: the game. Or it was not not quite the fourth quarter. 712 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: It was like middle of the fourth court and they're like, 713 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: all right, Logan, you're in and I am geaked right, 714 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: like this is my time. I got to make the 715 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: squad here. And that poor son of a gun on 716 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: the other side had no idea what was coming for 717 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: him because I was like, you know, you know, I 718 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: used to practice like an absolute cycle, and so I 719 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: get out there like I think this is the super Bowl. 720 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: This dude, first play, dumped him over somebody like over 721 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: the pile, shoved him the ground. This poor guy, like 722 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: he's been you can tell he's exhausted. Next play, same thing. 723 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: We're driving the ball down. My hammet pops off. I 724 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: tackle some dude to the ground, like I'm bleeding from 725 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: my forehead. The whole thing. I was out of my mind. 726 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: You went, you went Logan, you went ham On. 727 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: And so the thing was like and it was all blocks. 728 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: It was like nine blocking plays in a row. Like 729 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: everyone wants to everyone wants to leave the stadium, and 730 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 1: so they're just like trying to get the ball snapped 731 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: his you know, like, yeah, let's get out of here 732 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: running due twenty seven. You have to try to say 733 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: in the moment, and like this poor dude on the 734 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: other side was exhausted, and so like I remember thinking, like, man, 735 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. 736 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to take it to him. You have 737 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: to take it to him. 738 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: Again every every play, every player. 739 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 3: How bad is that as a player, All three us 740 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: explain how bad is it to know that you got 741 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: somebody cut into pre seas? 742 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Oh dude, I mean it was good riching for me. 743 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 2: But I was like one of us had to go down. 744 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 4: I never even thought about him. I don't care. 745 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: Lest I mean, well, you're you're playing with the starters. 746 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying ships. 747 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 4: Got their position, took him because of because of something 748 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: that they did against me. But you don't really it's 749 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: like you're in a situation, life of death. It is 750 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: either him or me, right, I mean that's how. 751 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: I look at That sounds crazy, but that's honestly, like, 752 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: that was the mindset when I was running. 753 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's my mindset. I don't think. 754 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I think. 755 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 2: I like to think layered stuff. 756 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 3: So I would get home after the last preseason game 757 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 3: and I would always like to be thankful that this 758 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: ain't my last game. And then I would think to myself, 759 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: sixth Vicinity, dudes, dream just die. 760 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: But look, no, you've never been in the situation until 761 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 4: you've been in the situation. I never experienced having to 762 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 4: play in the third game when we had four games. 763 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 4: That third game was mostly for the people that had 764 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 4: to make the make the roster. 765 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Fourth game, dude, well the fourth. 766 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 4: Game is a little different than the third game. The 767 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 4: third game, it's addressed as a guy who've been here 768 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: first round pick play is going to play. You don't 769 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: play the second half here, I am playing the second 770 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 4: half of my last year. Hear, and I'm like, I 771 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: went in the game. First of all, I win in 772 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 4: the game mad because I knew I didn't get in 773 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 4: the game, So that was already my moment of saying. 774 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: Your emotions already played me this year. 775 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 4: You know it tried me. So me and me and ike, 776 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 4: me and I had a little way of communicating. When 777 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 4: I was talking, he looking at me like and basically 778 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 4: his expression was like, oh, je you see this. And 779 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 4: I'm looking I'm shaking my head like and I'm saying 780 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 4: to myself trying. 781 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: You know. 782 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: And so I get in the game, playing against the 783 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: Ravens we at their stadium. I get in the game 784 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 4: and I'm like wanting to get these little young. 785 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: Cast the business. 786 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: Two plays bing bing, third play, touchdown, got somebody cut 787 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 4: this what? 788 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 2: I spin the ball over on the. 789 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: Sideline DJ like Tanner boy, they tripped. 790 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: I say no. 791 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: Me and Jay grew and look at each other. He say, 792 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: I don't need to see no more like you damn right, 793 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 4: you don't need to see no. 794 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 2: Hey. 795 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 4: I was furious, and so Sean if they come over 796 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 4: to me, you know Sean and I know he was 797 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 4: just doing what he had to do. He's like, all right, 798 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 4: tan On, you are you good? You don't you know? 799 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 4: I have to go back out there. But I want 800 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 4: to say, Sean, y'all, like you know why y'all tried 801 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 4: me like that, and then I realized, because you know, 802 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: the media will tell you so that somebody set up 803 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 4: they camera and show they mic in my face. After 804 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 4: the game, was like, so, how does it feel to 805 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: be on the bubble? They not to know if you're 806 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 4: gonna make the squad. I said, well, first, I ain't 807 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: know I was on the bubble. 808 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 2: Niggall the ball. 809 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 4: The way they played me tonight, that'd be their decision. 810 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 4: They gonna cut me because I could play anywhere, you know. 811 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 4: And Jay told me, like going into the locker room, like, man, 812 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 4: I really didn't need to see you. But with the 813 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 4: guys we have, you know, we're trying to, you know, 814 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: see what I want to put you out there, I 815 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: don't need to see it. Next week you made the team. 816 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 4: I was like, you couldn't even have to tell me 817 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 4: I made the team, because if I didn't make your team, 818 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 4: I was gonna make somebody else's team. But I understood 819 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 4: what was going on with bringing in Andre Roberts down 820 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 4: and getting d Jack on a humbum. We basically took 821 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 4: Andre Robins position, slid him in front of me because 822 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: he's a young guy and got paid more and d 823 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 4: Jack got his. You know, it was just a number thing. 824 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: I didn't understand how that felt until I was in 825 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 4: that situation. 826 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: Reminded me of so when I was in Atlanta. It 827 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: was my tenth year, my tenth preseason, right and I 828 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: was out there with I looked at the huddle and 829 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,959 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm about to get cut because it's me. 830 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: You're ten and a bunch of like rookies. 831 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,959 Speaker 2: The first year. 832 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: Way we were out there, we like didn't have enough 833 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,000 Speaker 1: old lineman or something. So they got d lineman playing 834 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: old line and they got and I'm literally standing there 835 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: like on the ball and I had to go through 836 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: and like tell every single person what to do. And 837 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: I was like, this is like there's no way you're 838 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: making this team. Like there's no way, and like it 839 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: was just like it was just such a surreal experience 840 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 1: because it was like the first quarter and I was like, 841 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: I have to play a whole game, not get hurt 842 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: and try to make another team. You know what I'm saying. 843 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: It's just like it's just like this this super clear awareness. 844 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, well screw. 845 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 4: I took my head off to you guys. Y'all had 846 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: to have dann y'all head because that was my first 847 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 4: experience of that. 848 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was you. 849 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 4: It was your fourteen, so you would say, you would 850 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: say we damn ten year fourteen. Him, No, I mean 851 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 4: I care less cause I'm running circles around the cast 852 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 4: as out here, eight year fourteen. So I just didn't 853 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 4: feel that that was appropriate because I feel still it's 854 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 4: guys I played with that had long careers. They knew 855 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: before they went into a game what was going on. Yeah, 856 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: not to know, and then putting that that's the worst 857 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: feeling ever. 858 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 3: Though, Hey, you hear that that old spiritual change gonna come? 859 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: Then you on your land in the seague? 860 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 4: I was, I know? 861 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 3: Did I like the reap were coming from me? I 862 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 3: just take out running out of the l the time. 863 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 2: Don't show now, I tell you. 864 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: The land of the dude came and got me in 865 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: the shower. When I was shower, I was but naked, 866 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: naked you came in and grabbed me. I got to 867 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: see it. I was like, my God, like you can't 868 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 1: wait time. 869 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: In here with a pitchful come on close and n 870 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 2: dead man. I wanted you say I'm gonna make him weak. 871 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take this. 872 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it longer, use every piece of so 873 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 4: I told the dude here, I was like, if. 874 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 3: You ever come looking for me, you better not look 875 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: it because if you look at me, I'm gonna take 876 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 3: out run. 877 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: You know you need my playbook for this to be official. 878 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: I will run and get I ain't coming back. 879 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: All right, I think that's gonna do it for today. 880 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: So be sure to rate and subscribe wherever we get 881 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: your podcasts, and check out our live coverage of Training 882 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: Camp command Center on the Commander's YouTube page. 883 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: Grow Yow Fruit. 884 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed by our podcast guests and 885 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: our hosts are their own and do not necessarily reflect 886 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: the views or positions of the Washington Commanders or any 887 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: of their representatives