1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: It seems like everything comes in threes. In the National 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Football League, it seems to be waves. This season now 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: seems like it's cut into thirds. There's three days in 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: the NFL draft, and in free agency there's also waves. Well, 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: we've had the first wave, but now it's the second wave. 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: And also we have seen Chiefs go to Hollywood, but 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: now Hollywood comes to the Chiefs. This edition of Defending 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: the Kingdom, of course, brought to you by Ticketmaster, and 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: we're calling it the second Wave. M cannon is in 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: at running back. First down and goal to go, play action, 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: fake right side, two touchdown, dudes on city, hook Toll Hardman, 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Hook Toll, Hardman. What the catch on the right side? 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,599 Speaker 1: A three yard touchdown? Passing over time? How everybody? I'm 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: Mitch Holt's voice of the Chiefs along with senior team 15 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: reporter Matt McMullen. And here we are in the second wave. 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: And also we're gonna talk from Hollywood here. But before 17 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: we do, so what do we have around the world. 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: I've got ten today, a lot a lot of in 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: the world. Today we got ten. So Isiah all over there? 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: We go, Yes for Isaiah? For pop So Jody is 21 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: listening from Joplin, but they pointed out that Plattsburgh is 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 2: home even though they're in Joplin. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: Okay. 24 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Uh Will checked in from Butte, Montana. You've ever been 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 2: to Butte, Montana? 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm not, but I want to. 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, Just a gorgeous place. When I worked for 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 2: the Salem Kaiser Volcanos way back in the day, we 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: drove up to Sioux Falls, then crossed all South Dakota, 30 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: crossed all of Montana to end up in Oregon and 31 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: crossing Montana. Like if people haven't done that before, It's 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: incredible just driving across the state and Butte, Montana is 33 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: along the route. 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: So what's the college in Butte? I know the universities 35 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: like Bozeman and Missoula, but there's a school in Butte. Yeah, 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: there is. 37 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is though. 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to go to like one of those 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: smaller Division two slash NIA football games in Montana. Sometimes. 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely I go to a Montana state game. 41 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love you for sure. Yeah. 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: Dominic is listening from Saint Louis. Hello, Domin. Tommy checked 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: in from Fargo, North Dakota. Suzie is listening from Wichita. 44 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 2: Zach is from Sussex County, Delaware. 45 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: Pretty cool. 46 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Michael was holding down the Fort in Deltona, Florida. Joel 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 2: is in Anchorage, Alaska. As I have been mentioning several times, 48 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 2: I'll be in Alaska here pretty shortly. 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: Can't wait. 50 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 2: Shout out to Ben in Columbia, Missouri. 51 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: Now. 52 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: Ben is eleven years old and a big Choice fan. 53 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: He also wanted to shout out his uncle who lives 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: in Joplin. What of Joplin representation here? Joplin, of course 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 2: has a hot bed Yeah, it sure is. 56 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: Yep. They think about the Kingdom every day in Joplin. 57 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: Competing with Springfield to be the mecca. 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: They are right there battle down in southwest Missouri. 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: And my last one I heard from Craig who proudly 60 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 2: represents the Kingdom where he works in Moline, Illinois and 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: at home in Bettendorf, Iowa in the Crag Cities. Yup, 62 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and Craig had a trivia question for you. 63 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: Okay, John Deere, by the way, in Moline, Illinois. 64 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: He works for them. He works at their world head quarters. 65 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: Actually, I think everybody that lives in Moline, Illinois works 66 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: for John Deere. Way or another. 67 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: Here's this trivia question for you. So what was the 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: first high school football game played at Arrowhead m Yeah, 69 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: this would be a good one for you to file away. 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: But it has to do with the Quad Cities or no, no, 71 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: not not related. 72 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: Think he just happens to know it and was curious 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 2: if you could guess it. 74 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: Cool. I would have to guess, But it has to 75 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: be something like a Kansas versus Missouri game. It's got 76 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: to be Rockhurst on the Kansas on the Missouri side 77 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: against I don't know me Ash on the Kansas. 78 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: Sid Well it says that he according to Craig, it 79 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: was the Missouri semi finals in nineteen seventy two. I 80 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: think these are both Missouri schools. Do you want to guess? 81 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: No, I got no clue. 82 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: Southwest defeated oak Park. Wow, oak Park's on the Missouri side, right. 83 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, North North, the Northmandy North and the North 84 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Women not yeah, the oak Park Northman and it was 85 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: against Center of Central Central. 86 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 2: Southwest Southwest Southwest defeated oak Park. 87 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Okay, that would have been the first year of Varahead too. 88 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: It's nineteen seventy two. So yeah, some trivia. So the 89 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: more you know, thanks Craig, Well, thanks to the Quad 90 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: Cities and John Deere for high School Geha Field at 91 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: Arrowhead and Trivia. Yep, that's awesome. Something happened. I was 92 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: in Topeka yesterday on some other business matters and I 93 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: passed a eighteen wheeler and it was the most awesome 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: cab I've ever seen. It had the logos of all 95 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: the Super Bowls. This was from Warsaw, Missouri. It's like this. 96 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: It was into I think he's an independent trucker like 97 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: hard Wick or hard Wick or somebody can they'll they'll 98 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: follow up on this. But I almost like just stared 99 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: at it, going at seventy five miles an hour down 100 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: the freeway of looking at like it was the coolest 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: painted Chiefs Kingdom truck. 102 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 2: Interesting. 103 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: We've got to get a photo of this. We got 104 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: to put it on our social because it's so cool, 105 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: and I'll get some more information on it. But I 106 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: just sit there and was like, well, wow, this is awesome. 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Now he does not have the Super Bowl fifty eight 108 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: logo up yet, but he's got four and fifty four 109 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: and fifty seven. It's really cool in the lombardies and 110 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: it's like something like rolling through the Kingdom. It's this 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: cool paint job of this independent truck caller. So it's 112 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: I know we're gonna find more about this cat, but 113 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: it was it was awesome. 114 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: You know what that reminds me of is a few 115 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 2: episodes ago, we had like the three Super Bowl Championship 116 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 2: hats out and we talk about those three most recent 117 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: ones because they happened so recently, But I need some 118 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 2: Super Bowl four gear, like a Super Bowl four champion hat. 119 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: Did they make hats back then when you won the 120 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 2: Super Bowl? 121 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: If they did with the old mesh kind right, they 122 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 1: had the cloth in front and then the mesh back round, 123 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: that would be yeah, you'll see him now. Hank didn't 124 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: wear them as much he did at camp. You'll see 125 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: these pictures of Hank with the Mesh three quarterback, right. Yeah, 126 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: and they made a comeback not that long ago, but 127 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: that'd be the hat you'd have to get with kind 128 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: of the football. And there's some logos with some throwback shirts. 129 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, definitely we got to get some shirts and 130 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: hats from Super Bowl four and put them on display. 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of that, did you see the new trophy 132 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: case in the lobby. 133 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:57,679 Speaker 1: As well it's the best. 134 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, for those that don't. Now, there's a trophy case 135 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: in the lobby here at the facility, and it had 136 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: been outgrown because of all the success lately, because I 137 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: think it only had maybe two Lombardies in it and 138 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 2: then maybe one AOC Championship trophy. Now it has all 139 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: four Lamar Hunt Trophies and all four Lombardies in there. 140 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 2: It looks pretty great. Need to add some more space though. 141 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: But if you're listing or in or watching, don't just 142 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: kind of waltz in here and say, hey, where is 143 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: it that that's not gonna work. 144 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: Don't do that. 145 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah he'll be, Yeah, he'll be. We'll be posting bond 146 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: or someone will for you. But you know what, it's 147 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: interesting full disclosure here. When we had the celebration at 148 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: Union Station on the stage, and you remember when Brett 149 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Veach had the open spot on the end, Yeah, I 150 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: should I slid the I slid the Lombardes over he goes. 151 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: It was like the night before. This is typical Brett Beach, 152 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: like late at night, right, dang, what's what's w you want? 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: H Hey, I'm gonna move all move all the lombardies 154 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: over and leave space. I love it because that was 155 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: his thesis. Yeah, remember like, hey, this looks good for 156 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: the next one. Uh huh, get the fifth one. But 157 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: that was so BV and it was it was awesome. 158 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, there you go. You mentioned super Bowl four. 159 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: Now we of course lost super Bowl one and then 160 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: we lost super Bowl fifty five, but super Bowl one 161 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: comes into play here as we kind of start this 162 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: episode because we're yes, we're talking about the second Wave, 163 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: but we also got a lot of Hollywood talk. Yep. 164 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: Now the Chiefs, Okay, let's start. The Coach Reid actually 165 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: has ties to Hollywood. His father was worked in Hollywood, right, 166 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: He was an artist, he made sets. And even though 167 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: Coach went to John Marshall High School, which is not 168 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: in Hollywood, I think they played Hollywood in sports, but 169 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: his dad worked on in Hollywood. So this is a 170 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: little bit if Coach Red came to us from Hollywood, 171 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: but the Chiefs have also gone to Hollywood. There was 172 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: a guy you ever heard of, Fred Williamson, Fred the 173 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: Hammer Williamson. 174 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: Sounds kind of familiar, but I couldn't tell you much 175 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: about him. 176 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: This needs to be one of your like go down 177 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: to the rabbit holes. Fred the Hammer Wiamson was a 178 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: cornerback for the Chiefs and played in Super Bowl One. 179 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: And he was way out of his time because he 180 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: could really talk smack and he was talking about knocking 181 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: out all the Packer receivers. He's and he had this 182 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 1: forearm which is illegal. 183 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: Now Max McGee is looking at him like he was 184 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: kind of like boy dollar, Max mczeery and to be gone. 185 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: And so Fred was somewhat of a sanguine character and 186 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: really good athlete. And ironically he got knocked out of 187 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl one. But and the Packers you can see 188 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: it on NFL films, were kind of they were going 189 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: after Fred. But Fred, after his career ended with the 190 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs, became an actor and I bet I 191 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: was counting like his filmography. I think he was in 192 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: like either he was in close to a one hundred 193 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: and twenty five films. 194 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: Wow. 195 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's over the place if you research Fred Williamson, 196 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Fred the Hammer Williamson. Now, my favorite role of Fred 197 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: the Hammer Williamson was the police captain in startskinin Hutch. 198 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: You remember the parody of Starkin Hutch. Sure, yeah, Yeah, 199 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: he's the guy of. 200 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: And so he had like big roles. He wasn't just 201 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 2: like an extra. 202 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, this guy's got big roles. Go back 203 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: and go back and check this guy out. Fred Williamson 204 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: was a deal and he's awesome. It starts Get Huch right, 205 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,959 Speaker 1: so he's gonna anyway, watch it. It's not the TV 206 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: starts Gin Hutch. It's the Ben Stiller Owen Wilson remix, 207 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: which is hilarious. It's one of my favorite movies. There's 208 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: so many awesome lines in it. But Fred the Hammer 209 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Williamson has a prominent role in that. He was in 210 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl one with the Chiefs and then John Amos 211 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: was a famous actor and he got cut by the Chiefs. Actually, 212 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: I think he lasted a couple of days and Stram goes, 213 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: you want to play football, but you're not a football 214 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: player or something. But anyway, Johnny Amos became very well 215 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: known in both film and television and he wanted to 216 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: be a Chief but didn't last very long. So there 217 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: was some moves of the Chiefs going to Hollywood. For sure, 218 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 1: Fred the Hammer Williamson would be the valedictorian. That discussion. 219 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: But now Hollywood comes to the Chiefs and here we go. 220 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: We prior to Gus Johnson give him the Hollywood name. 221 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: He was Marquise Brown, but he is Hollywood Brown. He 222 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 1: wants to be known as Hollywood Brown. Number one draft 223 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: pick of the Ravens in twenty nineteen, he requested a trade. 224 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: He went to the Arizona Cardinals. But now he's a 225 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Kansas City chief. Hollywood, Florida is his hometown. Hence the 226 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: nickname was a big play against k State when Gus 227 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: Johnson didn't know how to pronounce is this Marquise, Marquis 228 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: or Marcus, so he just calls him Hollywood and it's stuck. 229 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: But what do you think Hollywood Brown is now in 230 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom? 231 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I think we deserve some credit 232 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: for this happening because our last episode was recorded on 233 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: Thursday morning, and we mentioned that we're only going to 234 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: talk about what has happened already. I'm sure something new 235 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: will happen as soon as we record this, and what 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: do you know, Thursday night, there are are reports out 237 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: there that we signed Hollywood Brown, and Mitch and I 238 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: are like ecstatic about it, super excited, but it's also like, 239 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: of course, this happens hours after we record our episode, 240 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: and we live in a weird world where we can't 241 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: comment on things until they're official, so we couldn't even 242 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 2: talk about it until what Monday. But yeah, our episode 243 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 2: goes out on Friday. Don't even mention Hollywood Brown. So 244 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: if we had not recorded, well, we were testing Thursday night. 245 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 2: At least we gave the disclaimer exactly. But if we 246 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 2: had not talked about if we had not done our 247 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: show on Thursday, who knows if we would have signed anybody. 248 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 2: We helped create that energy in the universe. But yeah, 249 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 2: I love it. I mean Hollywood Brown. Let's talk about him. 250 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 2: Five foot nine, one hundred and eighty pounds with great speed. 251 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: Look at his pro day back in two thousand and 252 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 2: nineteen eighteen. I ran a four to two seven, so 253 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: great speed. But you look at his size and kind 254 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 2: of his makeup as a player. If you've never watched 255 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: him before, you might think, Okay, that's a guy that 256 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: plays just the slot, but not the case. It's actually 257 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: kind of interesting. Hollywood Brown in his career has primarily 258 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: been an outside wide receiver, so it says a lot 259 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 2: about his talent, his skill level and what he can 260 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: do that. He has the body type of a guy 261 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: you might think might just be a slot receiver, but 262 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: he's actually not that he's a complete receiver. He has 263 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: eight hundred and eighty four career snaps split out wide 264 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: against oftentimes a team's top corner, then nine hundred and 265 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: thirty nine snaps out of the slot in his career. 266 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 2: He can stretch the field vertically. We all know that 267 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: that deep threat with that speed and what he can 268 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: do in terms of getting down the field quickly, but 269 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 2: he also is really effective making plays on those short 270 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 2: underneath routs. And look back at his best season in 271 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, his thousand yard campaign with the Ravens. 272 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,719 Speaker 2: He had ninety one catches that year, well sixty nine 273 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: of them occurred either behind the line of scrimmage or 274 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: within nine yards of the line of scrimmage, and he 275 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: had more than three hundred yards after the catch on 276 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: those plays. So this is a guy that sure is 277 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 2: a deep threat that's important can take the top off 278 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: the defense back in twenty twenty one, he had four 279 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: touchdown grabs of more than twenty yards, But he can 280 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 2: also make plays in space and make guys miss underneath, 281 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: which is very exciting. I think he's really, in a 282 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: lot of ways the prototypical, perfect kind of wide receiver 283 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: for what Coach Reed wants to do. 284 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: A couple things caught my eye and we've played against him. 285 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: He had a buck over a buck of receiving in 286 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 1: the twenty one game in Baltimore where we had the 287 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: late fumble. We're on the way to win the game, 288 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: we lose thirty six thirty five. But a couple of 289 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: things when you do the deep drive into Hollywood Brown 290 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: that gets you excited. One in that twenty one year, 291 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: and the twenty one year is the one that pops 292 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: off the surface, right. He had a four digit year 293 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: receiving yards, and he had a full year with Lamar Jackson, 294 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: but he had twenty three targets on third and eight 295 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: plus that year. He had fourteen catches of those twenty 296 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: three for first downs. They're only two players better in 297 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: the NFL than Hollywood Brown in that category, and those 298 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: weren't all just go routes. Okay, So that tells you 299 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: a reliable third down receiver third and eight plus, which 300 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: has been a little bit of a void the last 301 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: two years. That's one that catches your eye most recent history. 302 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: And of course Arizona went through a lot of quarterback 303 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 1: injuries and Kyler Murray's missed so much time. But last year, 304 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 1: three goal to go targets for Hollywood Brown with the 305 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals and three touchdowns. Now to compare that, think 306 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 1: of Rashie Rice, he had four gold to go targets, 307 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: he had four touchdowns. Think of the game in Germany, right, 308 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: But Hollywood had three goal to go targets and three touchdowns. 309 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: So this is complementing your point, meaning, and this is 310 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: what Hollywood will have to do in this offense. Anybody 311 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: that has a wr by your name in this Andy 312 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Reid Patrick Mahomes offense must be able to at some 313 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: point and as soon as you can get there, the 314 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: better to be able to be a slot receiver, inside 315 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: receiver on trips, X receiver, Z receiver, a slot motion receiver, 316 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: jets fake jets. That's how he won Super Bowl fifty eight. 317 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: I mean, so it looks like the fact that Hollywood 318 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: Brown can play all of those roles, and statistically there 319 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: have been times he has done exactly that should be 320 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that should get the Chief Kingdom most excited. 321 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: And this is a player who I don't think has 322 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: been fully unlocked yet. To your point, he even mentioned 323 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 2: as such in his press conference where he thinks he's 324 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: shown a lot of things in the NFL, but he 325 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: has a chance to really put it all together here 326 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: because of the circumstances and the environment. And think about 327 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: his time in Baltimore. So really good player in Baltimore, 328 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: had that great twenty twenty one season, notably, but that 329 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 2: was the Ravens offense that was built around running the football. 330 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 2: They ranked thirtieth in the NFL and net passing yards 331 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: per game during his three years there, and even in 332 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, they were thirteenth in the NFL in 333 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: net passing yards per game, easily the highest ranking they 334 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: had during that three year stretch. The Ravens didn't throw 335 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: the football a whole lot. They're built around running the football, 336 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: and he still put up good numbers there. And then, 337 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: like you said, in Arizona, I mean, the idea there 338 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: was to pair him back with Kyler Murray, who he 339 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: played with in college. But Kyler was hurt for a 340 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: good part of both of those seasons, so kind of 341 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 2: a weird situation quarterback wise in Arizona, and he still 342 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: put his best foot forward. I think during his two 343 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: years there he led the Cardinals and catches, receiving yards 344 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: and receiving touchdowns when you combine his two seasons, So 345 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 2: a really productive player despite some tough circumstances in both places. 346 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 2: And this is the perfect circumstance for him. Come to 347 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: Kansas City, play for coach Red and play with the 348 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 2: best quarterback in the NFL in a pass centric offense. 349 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: And he's the first player in NFL history to have 350 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: two forty plus yard touchdowns in his very first game. 351 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: Going back to that twenty nineteen season when he was 352 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: the first round draft pick of the Baltimore Ravens. 353 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 2: But rist receiver taken two, I believe in. 354 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: The twenty fifth pick. I think, yeah, sure it was. 355 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: And that was the McCole Hardman Draft, and what happened 356 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: that was weird. That was a weird night in the 357 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Chiefs kingdom from a standpoint of what happened before the draft. 358 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: But that's another matter. Okay, So Hollywood Brown is now 359 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: a Chief, Tommy Townsend's now at Texan makes it easy. 360 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: He wants number five. Give him number five. We're ready 361 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: to roll and let him ruin. But here's the word 362 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: we'd give to Hollywood is okay, your life will start 363 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: with pats OTAs aka the PoTA I call him Pat's 364 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: OTA's on his own that leads you into the chiefs OTAs, 365 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: which I would guess would be about as hard as 366 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: you worked at camp with the Arizona Cardinals. And then 367 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: when you hit Saint Joseph, be ready to rock because 368 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: when coach, we've seen this. We saw this with Rice 369 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: last year, we've seen it with Juju, We've seen it 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: with others who joined the group, and hey, you're gonna 371 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: get CALC one, two and three in the first semester. 372 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: So just get ready because if you buy in, just 373 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: like Rashie did last year, you'll realize, wait a minute, 374 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: I can do things in a quick fashion that I 375 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: wasn't even sure I could do. So to get full bloom, 376 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 1: as you've alluded to with Hollywood, Brown, it's up now 377 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: to Hollywood. Just lock in, know every position, do it 378 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: as fast as you can, and get on the fast 379 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: track and be ready to work. Because the Chiefs were 380 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: winning because they were. 381 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 2: Well And did you see that Patrick's Instagram that they're 382 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: already together. I mean, that's how you fire up Chiefs Kingdom. 383 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: Right is, He's been a Chief for like twenty four 384 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: hours and he's already working out with Patrick in Hollywood, 385 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 2: works out in Texas. That's what he said during his 386 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: press conference. So it's going to work out perfectly, hopefully 387 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: right there. Get some early work done with the offense 388 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: with Patrick Mahomes, and then when OTAs begin here in 389 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 2: Kansas City at some point in May, has a bit 390 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 2: of a head start, it can start immersing himself in 391 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: this offense. But that's why Ota is, That's why this 392 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: time of year is so important. It's tough for the Chiefs. 393 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 2: It's a good problem to have, but it's tough because 394 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: their offseason is like a month and a half shorter 395 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: than everyone else's. But when you're a team like Kansas City, 396 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 2: you have a chance to make some history this upcoming year. 397 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: Go for that. 398 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 2: Three Pete. Guys want to be a part of that. 399 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: Guys are eager to get back to work, and as 400 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 2: we saw with that ig post, those guys are already working. 401 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ed ViBe's already here. It was even there at 402 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: the end of the Super Bowl celebration basically, and it's 403 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: been carried on ever since then. But it's an example 404 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: of the second wave of free agency. The first wave 405 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: is the when in the last episode, you know, the 406 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: legal tampering period and the New York Stock Exchange, where 407 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 1: everything just goes crazy and people are yelling at each 408 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: other and signing guys and going nuts. But the second 409 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: wave is when things calm down and the Chiefs have 410 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: done a really good job in the second wave. When 411 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: you look at last year, I mean Drew Trank will 412 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: signed about this time of the year. Mike Edwards was 413 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: very close in that time. When you look at and 414 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: the other thing that we want to always try to 415 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of emphasize you and I is what's new, what's 416 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: the new shiny thing? Well, you also like to keep 417 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: the guys that you want, and the Chiefs did that, 418 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: of course with Chris Jones and doing that contract. We 419 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: discussed that they did it with Drew Tranquil, but they 420 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: also did it in the second wave. Because there's three 421 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: guys that come to mind here. Turk Wharton has re 422 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: signed in this so called second wave. Derek Noddy is signed, 423 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: Mike Panal was a few days earlier than those guys. 424 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: But the point is with Chris Johns, and you're going 425 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: to draft some of you guys or put some free 426 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: agents in there. Your inside tech guys are ready to go. 427 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: A lot of continuity along the interior of the Chiefs 428 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: defensive line from last year and really from previous years. 429 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 2: Think about Derek Noddy. I think one of the more 430 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: underappreciated players on this team. He's played in ninety eight 431 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: games over the last six seasons and started eighty six 432 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: of them, and he plays a role on the defense 433 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 2: that's very difficult to quantify, Like he's never going to 434 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 2: have a ton of really big stats like sacks and 435 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: pressures and all that, but he's occupying space, he's defending 436 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 2: the run, and he's one of the players inside that 437 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 2: helps make the entire operation go. And as we've mentioned, 438 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: we think this was the best defense in the NFL 439 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 2: last year. Well, he was truly right in the middle 440 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: of it. So great having Derek Naughty back. Just does 441 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: a lot of dirty work. As I mentioned that, it's 442 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: hard to put into numbers, but if you just watch 443 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 2: the games, you can tell why he's so valuable and 444 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: why Bretviach wanted to bring him back. And Turk Wharton 445 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: so seventeen pressures and. 446 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: Do this with Derek. I mean, if you message him, 447 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: where you see him in public or whatever, just thank him. 448 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: I mean that guy. You're right, he has done so 449 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: much to help this team win championships and he's been 450 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: a part of all three that unless you really watch 451 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: the video, I don't think we can fully appreciate what 452 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: Derek Naughty does. 453 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 2: Sure, and you have to be a certain kind of guy, 454 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: like wired a certain way to really be committed to 455 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: that role. And he's that guy. So that's why he's 456 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,679 Speaker 2: back here in Kansas City. Turk Wharton also a fun player. 457 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: I always think of you when we're talking about Turk 458 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 2: Wharton because way back in twenty twenty, when training camp 459 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: was at the Chiefs facility due to COVID restrictions, Turk 460 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: was just a UDFA out of a Missouri rawa And 461 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 2: you and I were watching training camp trying to think 462 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 2: who would be maybe making this team that people weren't 463 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 2: talking about, and we saw Turk Wharton out there just 464 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: bawling out, just looking way better than a UDFA should more, Like, 465 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: are we sure this guy wasn't drafted? Like where did 466 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 2: this guy come from? And what a career he's had 467 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: here in Kansas City over the last several years. Last 468 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: year really solid year for him. Had seventeen pressures, five 469 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: quarterback hits, two sacks. He logged at least twenty five 470 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 2: defensive snaps in each of the Chiefs four playoff games, 471 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: so a regular contributor during the Super Bowl run. And 472 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 2: what's interesting about him, he's two hundred and eighty pounds, 473 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: so he's kind of a tweener along the defensive line. 474 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: He'd be kind of like a big defensive end, but 475 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 2: kind of a small in terms of weight defensive tackle. 476 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 2: But he's still athletic that he can kind of do everything. 477 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: And that's what Steve Spagnola wants as a versatile player 478 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: who can kind of be a chess piece along the 479 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 2: defensive front. And that's Turk Wharton. I mean, he can 480 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 2: play the three techts where he normally is, but you 481 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 2: can line him up over the nose. He could be 482 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: an end in a three man front and even line 483 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 2: up as an edge outside in a four man front, 484 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: So he can do a little bit of everything. The 485 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: largest legs and quads I have ever seen on a human 486 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: being during training camp, he gets like nine egg oblets. 487 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: But it's paying off glad to have Turk Wharton back 488 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: in casey. 489 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: And he makes an explosive. He can make a flash play. 490 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: Now you go back to his Washington game twenty one, 491 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: that's as big time of play as you would want. 492 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: Interception. 493 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome. I mean and for a defensive 494 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: lineman to make that play. Yeah. And so he has 495 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: the ability athletic ability to make a play like that. 496 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: We've seen him do it time and again. And yes, 497 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: you miners and you engineers and architects and from Missouri 498 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: s and t in Rala, your only player to ever 499 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: make the NFL is a very very valuable player signed 500 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: in the second wave here of free agency in the 501 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: twenty twenty fourth season. Then you also lose guys in 502 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: this time. Jody Fortson is now Miami Dolphin. And you 503 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: and I both were you know, loved Jody, and gosh, 504 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: there was just such potential there. It was just a 505 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: matter of staying healthy. We wish him the best in Miami. 506 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: Very similar deal to what we were saying about Turk Wharton. 507 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,719 Speaker 2: Every training camp we'd watch Jody and he's the ultimate 508 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: example of the guy that put the work in and 509 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: wasn't in the limelight early on, but was committed to 510 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: being here and committed to being the best player he 511 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: could be on the practice squad for a couple of years, 512 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: and then to earn your shot and to make the 513 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 2: team out of training camp. That's what it's all about, 514 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 2: and Jody helped us win over the years. Wishing him 515 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: nothing but the best in Miami. Sometimes when you've had injuries, 516 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 2: it's a good chance for you to get off to 517 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 2: a fresh start in a new place. And I'm hopeful 518 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: that he can have a great rest of his career. 519 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: But Jody's an awesome guy, an awesome player, and wish 520 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: him nothing but. 521 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: The best, absolutely, And then we'll close out this way. 522 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: The other part of the second wave kind of leads 523 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: into a third wave, and the third wave, we're kind 524 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: of will enter this over the next several weeks, and 525 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: then maybe the third wave b would be after the 526 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: June one cuts, because then there's a whole bunch of 527 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: dudes that kind of come flying out there. But let 528 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: me just give you some examples of guys who have 529 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: not been signed and have are just out there or 530 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: outlight out, light outright released that not saying they will. 531 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: But just just think about these guys a second. I 532 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: got like Max Sharp ring in Cincinnati. Now I'm talking 533 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: about guy who would play obviously fitting the cap, would 534 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: be your sub offensive lineman. Now Mike Kellyando is back 535 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: on the roster, but to lose Nick Alighretty is to 536 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: lose basically your sixth man in basketball, so valuable. It 537 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,239 Speaker 1: can could play center, garden, tackle, and then we saw 538 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: him big man touchdown. He can be tackle over tackle. 539 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: That role has to be filled going into the twenty 540 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: twenty fourth season. But I'm just giving you examples of 541 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: veterans who are out there who the Chiefs who down 542 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: through the years have been able to pick up and 543 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: get under, you know, team friendly contracts. Another one is 544 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: a native of Abilene, Kansas, and he was a great 545 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,199 Speaker 1: player for the Bears, but Cody Whitehair was released. Now 546 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Cody Whitehair can play center and guard, super smart and tough, 547 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: and I was just looking at how many starts he had, 548 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: like eighty eight starts maybe with the Chicago Bears. But 549 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 1: he's out there just waiting for someone to take him. 550 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Another case staters Dalton Reisner. Now Minnesota may take him back. 551 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Remember he was in Denver as a longtime starter, but 552 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: he's a guy that's there unsigned. And then defensively, well, 553 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: another offensive lineman, Max Garcia of New Orleans was with 554 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: New Orleans, played for Denver sixty three starts. But a 555 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: guy that could be a backup center guard or become 556 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: the sixth man or seventh man on your offensive line 557 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: as a veteran presence and can be more help maybe 558 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: for a one year Morris and then a defensive player's 559 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: a manual log. But old friend, old friend, he's at 560 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Man, he was a big part of this team, 561 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: got hurt that season, but he's out there now. Will 562 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: he be resigned by Miami don't know. But that's an 563 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: example of the second wave that leads into a third 564 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: wave of free agency. That it's almost like the second 565 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 1: day of the draft and the third day. We got 566 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: all hyped up about the first day, and then the 567 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: value comes in the second and third day. Well, many 568 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: times of the value in free agency comes in this 569 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: second wave or third wave. 570 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: And in both instances, whether it be the second wave 571 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 2: or third wave of free agency and the latter days 572 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: of the draft, that's where you become a champion. In 573 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: my opinion, because we have our big money, big ticket 574 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: guys already. It's a matter of supplementing those players with 575 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: players around them who can help push you over the top. 576 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: And we've done that in recent years really well. To 577 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 2: your point, how about signing Donovan Smith on May fourth 578 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: last year, or Richie James on April eleventh, even bringing 579 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: back guys from last year. Jared McKinnon didn't resign until 580 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 2: May second, Justin Watson has resigned on April fourteenth. Dean 581 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: Bush joined this team on April third. So I mean, 582 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: we all fall into the trap of watching the first 583 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: week of free agency, and some teams throw so much 584 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: money around and bring in a whole bunch of players, 585 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: and that's exciting. That's exciting for those teams, But for 586 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, they found a way to kind of pick 587 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 2: their spots, and in this case, Hollywood Brown was that 588 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: big guy that they brought in during the first week 589 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 2: of free agency. But just because that first week is 590 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 2: over doesn't mean that Brett Viach is done, doesn't mean 591 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: that this team is a finished product by any means, 592 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: because you kind of survey the landscape, see who's still 593 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,880 Speaker 2: out there, see who maybe didn't get that huge deal 594 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 2: they were expecting. Drew Trankl was a great example of that. 595 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Last year. 596 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: He's talked about it like the linebacker market fell a 597 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: certain way. The Chiefs were looking for a linebacker, and 598 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm gonna go to Kansas City and hopefully 599 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, and look what happened. It was 600 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: a great investment on his part. So if you're one 601 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: of those players that are still out there obviously looking 602 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: for a job, the Chiefs are a team that's so 603 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: good at again seeing what's out there after that first 604 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 2: wave and figuring out what makes the most sense. I'm 605 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 2: excited to see what happens. 606 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's why I use the offensive line not 607 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: the sexiest conversation among football fans always, but we also 608 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: know Coachriid always talks about the trenches and look good 609 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: this offensive line has been in these back to back 610 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: Super Bowl championship years. There's only eight offensive linemen on 611 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the roster right now, okay, and to lose what we lost, 612 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: That's why I'm saying this second and third wave becomes 613 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: very important for that room in particular, because you know 614 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: you'll draft to that room, but who's out there that 615 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: you can get as a value pick who becomes possibly 616 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: the Drew Treng of twenty twenty four for the offensive line. 617 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: And that's why Brettviach makes the money that he does. 618 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: That's why he's the best GM in the game is 619 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: he finds those guys. And what's so fun to learn 620 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: about with our scouting department is how they are working 621 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: year round on that kind of stuff. I mean, they 622 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 2: have lists of guys at all times, like these guys 623 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 2: are available. These guys are players that we've been interested 624 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 2: in for a long time. And it's no mistake that 625 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 2: Hollywood talked about this, that the Chiefs were interested in 626 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: him during the draft back in twenty nineteen and it 627 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: didn't work out. But all these years later, you remember that, 628 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: You remember that Hollywood Brown is a player that we 629 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: were interested in. And that's the case as well for 630 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: free agents that are around. It's still available around this time. 631 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 2: You can think, hey, maybe last year we were interested 632 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 2: in that guy didn't work out, but he's out there 633 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: right now. That's where the comprehensive outlook that our scouting 634 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: department has is so important. 635 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: And our scouting department includes the pro personnel staff. We 636 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: don't talk about them as much. We talked more about 637 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: the college guys, and but you look at a tim 638 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: Terry and the guys that work on that pro side. 639 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: We crop dust this right, we look at it and 640 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: then move on to the other thousand things we have 641 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: to do. They live it. Oh yeah, and they've got 642 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: the little man. I mean, they've got the room up 643 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: there with they you know, they're probably chuckling at me 644 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: mentioned these offensive linemen. They go, well, there's like fifty 645 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: five others. But those are just examples of how the 646 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: second wave and third wave. To your point, and we'll 647 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: put is how you win championships. So pay attention to 648 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: the second wave and the third wave of free agency. Plus, 649 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: we've had chiefs that have gone to Hollywood, but now 650 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: Hollywood comes to the chiefs.