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Speaker 4: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 4: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
Speaker 4: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today,
Speaker 4: joined by Mia Wang and James Stout. This episode, we
Speaker 4: are covering the week of June four to June eleventh.
Speaker 4: Let's start James with an update on the protests happening
Speaker 4: in la In response to mass ice raids in the
Speaker 4: Los Angeles area and also around the country.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been in LA. I was up covering it.
Speaker 5: I'm back home now. It's on Wednesday. We did a
Speaker 5: whole episode about this people can listen to. In terms
Speaker 5: of update, I think things were a little bit smaller tonight.
Speaker 5: There were a large number of detentions.
Speaker 4: Made late tonight.
Speaker 3: You mean last night, Tuesday night?
Speaker 4: Tuesday night, okay.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: To summarize, right, the first two nights saw the city.
Speaker 3: Caught off guard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the weekend was pretty spicy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it got pretty well that there. A couple of
Speaker 5: cop cars got destroyed. I think some Weimos made the
Speaker 5: ultimate sacrifice our rip Weimo yep oh. I saw them
Speaker 5: trucking the Weimos out and there was not much Weimo left,
Speaker 5: Like it was the remains of the waim passed me,
Speaker 5: gone but not forgotten. So by Monday morning, they had
Speaker 5: flooded Los Angeles with police. I saw police from LAPD,
Speaker 5: LA SD, I saw police from fps DHS, National Guard,
Speaker 5: California Highway patrols play it's like Pokemon for cops up there,
Speaker 5: and that resulted in them splitting up protesters cattling and
Speaker 5: detaining people on Monday night, and they made extremely liberal
Speaker 5: use of impact munitions, chemical ritans, etc. Batterday Sunday, Monday Tuesday,
Speaker 5: thousands of impact munitions that you can find kissings all
Speaker 5: over DTLA if you just go walk around. I saw
Speaker 5: a lot of like people had tagged up a lot
Speaker 5: of buildings in DTLA. But from what I've seen, I
Speaker 5: don't know. We'll see, Right, It's also of the week,
Speaker 5: so maybe things will get bigger again over the weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I things can get less combative during the week because
Speaker 4: people are busy with work and keeping themselves like fed
Speaker 4: and had housed, and then on the weekend things can
Speaker 4: sometimes open back up again.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And also it's worth it's worth noting how these
Speaker 6: how these specific protests are flaring up, which is that
Speaker 6: like these ones are flaring up when Ice like drags
Speaker 6: people out of a place.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is directly in response to ICE kidnapping their.
Speaker 6: Names, right, And so you know, the next time ICE
Speaker 6: does a bunch of kidnappings of people, there's a chance
Speaker 6: to do it will pop off again because people are
Speaker 6: being like, holy shit, don't take my neighbor away.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the LA protests are already happening in a sequence.
Speaker 4: Right We had stuff happening in San Diego, We then
Speaker 4: had stuff in Minneapolis, We then had stuff in Chicago.
Speaker 4: We then had the really big flare of which was LA.
Speaker 4: And I think what's interesting right now is that instead
Speaker 4: of having just like nationwide riots like there was in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, this is more like a sequence that actually
Speaker 4: directly follows the actions of ICE. And in some ways,
Speaker 4: I think this can be harder to combat. If every
Speaker 4: city has the capacity to do what LA has done
Speaker 4: in response to the actions of ICE, that follow the
Speaker 4: actions of ICE, that could be harder to prepare for
Speaker 4: than just the federal government realizing that we have to
Speaker 4: do massive counter insurgency everywhere, all at the same time,
Speaker 4: like what happened in twenty twenty. If instead this is
Speaker 4: a rolling sequence of protests that happened directly in response
Speaker 4: to ICE actions, any city could be next. Instead of
Speaker 4: just trying to prepare for nationwide riots, they have to
Speaker 4: be this more like mobile fluid force. They have to
Speaker 4: respond to different outbursts that happen in different cities at
Speaker 4: different times. And I think the other advantage that this
Speaker 4: model has is that the actual protesters themselves can also
Speaker 4: iterate on tactics. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel
Speaker 4: every time, you can take what happened in a previous city,
Speaker 4: like a week ago, two weeks ago, and iterate on that.
Speaker 4: Iterate on what was unsuccessfully, what captured attention, and what
Speaker 4: was able to catch the cops off guard, minimizing mass arrests.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of the state response, just in case
Speaker 5: people have missed it, right, two thousand National Guard troops,
Speaker 5: seven hundred United States Marines. The Marines came from twenty
Speaker 5: nine Palms. I know the Core has like an urban
Speaker 5: warfare school, or at least had one there in twenty
Speaker 5: nine pounds. Obviously, Camp Pendleton is a bigger base. Well,
Speaker 5: I see, it might not be geograph they're both huge
Speaker 5: and closer to LA, but they sent them from twenty
Speaker 5: nine Palms instead.
Speaker 3: I didn't see any Marines.
Speaker 5: They're just supposed to be protecting federal assets and not
Speaker 5: supposed to be out there like straight up policing. Obviously,
Speaker 5: that's you know, unconstitutional. One can make a case it's
Speaker 5: unconstitutional to be deploying them at all in this fashion.
Speaker 5: There are some on the streets now National Guard is
Speaker 5: actually making arrests on the street. Marines have not as
Speaker 5: of Wednesday, but some of the Marines have been deployed.
Speaker 5: There's upwards of seven hundred who are like in the
Speaker 5: process of being deployed at LA streets right now, out
Speaker 5: of two thousand available troops, some of which are actually
Speaker 5: still receiving training on standard rules of force. So these
Speaker 5: people do not have necessarily like extensive training on police
Speaker 5: crowd control, but are currently brushing up on crowd control tactics. Yeah,
Speaker 5: what I saw from National Guard was like it seemed
Speaker 5: to be by rank, although I'm not certain of that
Speaker 5: guy with with shields and sticks right, just straight up
Speaker 5: poles as opposed to like truncheons with like a T
Speaker 5: shape or an L shape or whatever. And then probably
Speaker 5: one in every five or six had an M four
Speaker 5: with a magazine. That's a gun for people who aren't familiar,
Speaker 5: it's in AAR fifteen and that's obviously live ammunition. So
Speaker 5: like they didn't seem to have any access to like
Speaker 5: less lethals or they didn't bring them if they did that,
Speaker 5: I don't know about the Marine. And obviously we saw
Speaker 5: like police using less lethals and then LASD also had
Speaker 5: some cops with M fours amongst their formations.
Speaker 4: And this is just about to like really expand outside
Speaker 4: of LA and California admidst anti ICE protests across Texas.
Speaker 4: Governor Greg Abbott just deployed the Texas National Guard, and
Speaker 4: on Tuesday night, I believe MSNBC broke the story that
Speaker 4: ICE is about to send special Response team quote unquote
Speaker 4: tactical units to five Democrat controlled areas, namely in New
Speaker 4: York City, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and northern Virginia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is like a swat team if you're not familiar.
Speaker 5: Like there was a DHSSRT that ended up responding in too,
Speaker 5: that South Park protest in San Diego that we mentioned
Speaker 5: last week or the week before.
Speaker 4: As of Wednesday, there's already been protests this week and
Speaker 4: over half US states. This will certainly continue throughout the weekend.
Speaker 4: At least for LA. On Tuesday night, the mayor announced
Speaker 4: an eight pm curfew in downtown Los Angeles. That were
Speaker 4: mass arrests Tuesday night, hundreds of people. I think the
Speaker 4: other advantage that this kind of rolling sequence model that
Speaker 4: we've seen with like San Diego, Minneapolis, Chicago, LA is
Speaker 4: that not only does it give people time to like
Speaker 4: iterate on tactics, it also gives people a break. If
Speaker 4: anyone who survived twenty twenty, like you know how how
Speaker 4: intense burnout can be from just doing that all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and having the built in brakes where you can like
Speaker 4: recover physically and mentally while iterating on tactics, that could
Speaker 4: be interesting to see.
Speaker 6: I think also this one thing we should notice about this,
Speaker 6: which is that like there's a very clear actual thing
Speaker 6: you're trying to do here, which is stop them from
Speaker 6: taking these people. And even if you fail to immediately
Speaker 6: take someone, they stop them taking someone in the moment.
Speaker 6: Every single like second they're having to do dealing with
Speaker 6: this shit means that they're not doing it. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: you're you're degrading their capacity. Yeah, exactly. The time is
Speaker 6: like the most valuable asset year. Yeah. And and like
Speaker 6: obviously again like the larger goals you want to like expel,
Speaker 6: Like you know, like one of the most common things
Speaker 6: I'm hearing from people is just like ice out of
Speaker 6: the city, right, Like we don't want them to be
Speaker 6: doing these raids, but every every time they're forced to
Speaker 6: like actually face resistance when they're doing the raid makes
Speaker 6: it much much harder for them to do what they
Speaker 6: have to start planning for there to be resistance to
Speaker 6: the rage, which slows them down. And yeah, everything you
Speaker 6: could do to put fucking wrenches into the gears until
Speaker 6: the machine breaks is good. And there's a there's a
Speaker 6: very clear path from A to B, two C in
Speaker 6: a way that they're kind of aren't. Like. It doesn't
Speaker 6: rely on politicians doing stuff. It just relies on us
Speaker 6: stopping them.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah doing stuff.
Speaker 5: The city of Glendale did cancel its detention contract with ICE, right,
Speaker 5: so they won't be detaining people there. So like a
Speaker 5: little bit of progress there. And Gavin Newsom has said
Speaker 5: some shit about the deployment of the National Guard and
Speaker 5: California as far the court case, like Newsom has not
Speaker 5: done everything in his power to stop that.
Speaker 3: But it's Gavin Newsom. What do you expect?
Speaker 5: I'll be back in the ela of things continue there.
Speaker 5: But it's certainly the biggest protest we've seen this time
Speaker 5: around in the Trump administration.
Speaker 4: All right, let's go and break and come back to
Speaker 4: discuss more news.
Speaker 5: We are back, and unlike people from twelve countries who
Speaker 5: will not be coming back to the United States for
Speaker 5: the foreseeable future because the Trump administration has announced.
Speaker 3: A new travel ban.
Speaker 5: The form of the travel ban is basically, anyone who
Speaker 5: applies for a visa or is in the process of
Speaker 5: applying for a visa currently, if they are from one
Speaker 5: of these twelve countries is unable to obtain a visa
Speaker 5: to the United States. Right the twelve countries, seven have
Speaker 5: partial restrictions, and then the full ban is on Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad,
Speaker 5: the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrere, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan,
Speaker 5: and Yemen. And then Borundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan,
Speaker 5: and Venezuela have like a higher barrier right and some
Speaker 5: visas are not available to them.
Speaker 4: Is an interesting inclusion there, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: They looked at two criteria.
Speaker 5: E seems because Trump made an executive order at the
Speaker 5: start of his presidency like looking to identify countries for
Speaker 5: a travel ban. The two criteria they had were visa
Speaker 5: over stay percentages and the quote unquote not having a
Speaker 5: competent central authority to cooperate with vetting, right, So, like
Speaker 5: you can't do a background check on someone if their
Speaker 5: country doesn't have that facility. It's a claim, right. I
Speaker 5: think they got vanmar On visa overst eight percentages. It's
Speaker 5: worth noting, right that they use percentages and not raw
Speaker 5: numbers for a reason, because, yeah, a certain percentage of
Speaker 5: Burmese people may overstay their visa. I think it's twenty
Speaker 5: seven point one percent. That amounts to five hundred and
Speaker 5: forty three individuals. If we look at, for instance, France,
Speaker 5: these are twenty twenty three numbers. About zero point six
Speaker 5: percent of French people overstay their visa. That amounts to
Speaker 5: nine one hundred and eighty two individuals. Right, So, like
Speaker 5: a percentage is great, but if a big percentage of
Speaker 5: a small thing is still a small thing. Yeah, this
Speaker 5: is how they're attempting to justify it though in terms
Speaker 5: of bulletproofing it through the courts. Obviously, they didn't have
Speaker 5: the best luck with their travel ban in the first administration,
Speaker 5: so using this tactic is one that they're hoping will
Speaker 5: justify it.
Speaker 3: Will it will stick the landing through the courts.
Speaker 5: Should add that they have some exemptions right, existing visa
Speaker 5: holders who are currently within the United States can remain
Speaker 5: in the United States.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 5: In practice, lots of these countries only get single entry visas,
Speaker 5: so it might be hard for them to leave and
Speaker 5: come back. But it's sometimes I've heard it reported that
Speaker 5: all these people, like people from these countries can no
Speaker 5: longer come to the United States, will be in the
Speaker 5: United States, and that's not true. There are exemptions for
Speaker 5: people who are dual citizens. There are exemptions for adoptive children.
Speaker 5: There are exemptions for ethnic and religious minorities in Iran.
Speaker 5: There are exemptions for sports teams because the United States thing, well,
Speaker 5: the United States is holding the World Cup and the Olympics, right, yeah,
Speaker 5: so like it would be something of a fascical spectacle
Speaker 5: if you know, nineteen countries were not represented. I mean,
Speaker 5: the Olympic Games is something of a fascal spectacle to
Speaker 5: begin with, one could argue, but yeah, they didn't want that, right,
Speaker 5: they didn't want that like international spectacle. So a professional
Speaker 5: athlete visa is hard to get at the best of times,
Speaker 5: so that is a high bar, but those ones still
Speaker 5: seem to be available. And then there's also exemptions for
Speaker 5: SIV wrote special immigrant visas. These are people who have
Speaker 5: worked closely with the United States. The vast bulk of
Speaker 5: them will be Afghan people, people who worked as interpreters
Speaker 5: or otherwise cooperated with the United States during the twenty
Speaker 5: years the United States was at.
Speaker 3: War in Afghanistan.
Speaker 5: Again, I've seen that mis reported, including by people who
Speaker 5: really should know better. But you know, I'm never not
Speaker 5: disappointed in a lot of people's immigration coverage. This will
Speaker 5: be challenging court, right, but I think they have gone
Speaker 5: some way to trying to make this a bit more
Speaker 5: bulletproof than they did before. And it is concerning that
Speaker 5: they seem to have a better chance. Obviously pretty concerning,
Speaker 5: especially for US, you know, with our extensive reboarding on
Speaker 5: Burma or Mihanmar, that those people can't come here and
Speaker 5: be safe. Yeah, that's a travel man in a nutshell,
Speaker 5: I guess.
Speaker 6: Also, I think it's worth noting so like this is
Speaker 6: just an expanded version Well, I guess it's like a
Speaker 6: little bit of differences, but it's basically an expanded version
Speaker 6: of the Muslim band from his first term.
Speaker 5: Yeah, with some new countries, and I think maybe the
Speaker 5: removal of some countries from previously.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And like it's worth noting that, like in Trump.
Speaker 6: One like that immediately caused the airport protests, which were
Speaker 6: like the first big protests of the administration that were
Speaker 6: extremely effective until people like went home. And this time
Speaker 6: it's basically not been a news story because we're so
Speaker 6: far along that the protests have been about like ices
Speaker 6: dragging our neighbors away, and yeah, I just think that's
Speaker 6: fucking bad as shit. And also the airport protests, like,
Speaker 6: we're really effective.
Speaker 3: They some of the more effective protests in those years. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I am yea.
Speaker 5: I did see a flyer for an airport protest, but
Speaker 5: I've seen no evidence of one's occurring.
Speaker 6: Yeah. I had heard that there was going to be
Speaker 6: one on Monday, but that it just like didn't happen,
Speaker 6: So I don't know what's going on with that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but that was a thing that was pretty effective, and
Speaker 6: they also didn't eat the shirt of everyone for most
Speaker 6: of it, which was nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well Mia, talking of beats, how about we dropped
Speaker 5: some beats right now with this sick tariff song.
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Speaker 6: The Donald Trump has apparently, according to him, resolved that
Speaker 6: the trade war with China. He's planning the negotiation one
Speaker 6: he's claiming, he's.
Speaker 4: Claiming victory, mission accomplished. Ye the claim that.
Speaker 6: He's making out of the out of the London negotiations.
Speaker 6: And I want to point out that I have not
Speaker 6: heard anything from the Chinese side. It's possible there will
Speaker 6: be soft from the Chinese side by the time this
Speaker 6: episode comes out. It's possible this whole deal will have
Speaker 6: collass by the time this comes out. It seems like
Speaker 6: the deal is that US maintains tariffs at fifty five percent,
Speaker 6: which is what they're at right now, China maintains ten
Speaker 6: percent tariffs, and then China ensures US access to rare
Speaker 6: earth metals, and then the US does Trump was talking
Speaker 6: about the US not actually doing a crackdown on like
Speaker 6: Chinese international students. So who knows what the fuck is
Speaker 6: going to happen with any of that. That is the
Speaker 6: reporting that's coming out right now. I don't know. Quite frankly,
Speaker 6: I am skeptical this is going to hold. I again, like,
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if, like in two days
Speaker 6: when this episode comes out of any of this is
Speaker 6: going to be true because again, we have heard nothing
Speaker 6: from the Chinese side. It has all been from Trump,
Speaker 6: so who the fuck knows. But yeah, that's that. That is.
Speaker 6: That is the late of tariff news. This is a
Speaker 6: kind of short one.
Speaker 4: That's that's what we've got. That's exciting. That's exciting that
Speaker 4: we won. Trade is back. I can go back to
Speaker 4: buying everything I owned from Timu, no problem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I give my usual disclaimer that fifty
Speaker 6: percent tariff on China is like fucking ruinous the global economy,
Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. I do genuinely hope that, like
Speaker 6: the Chinese international students are getting cracked out on because
Speaker 6: Jesus fucking Christ, those poor kids. All of these policies
Speaker 6: are tied together in this sort of like unhinged like
Speaker 6: American Nationalist Project etctera, et cetera. They're all connected. They
Speaker 6: hate us all and yay, really really fun time to
Speaker 6: be a Chinese trans woman in the US.
Speaker 4: WHOA, Okay, it's also fun to enjoy the COVID vaccine
Speaker 4: because we might not get it for much longer. I
Speaker 4: guess I'll do a brief update on an episode I
Speaker 4: did with Cave a few weeks ago. So RFK has
Speaker 4: now dismissed the entirety of the ACIP, the CDC's Vaccine
Speaker 4: Advisory Committee that has just been completely dissolved. This happened
Speaker 4: on Tuesday. That was the big theory that Cave had
Speaker 4: is that if that panel gets dissolved, that that was
Speaker 4: kind of the last line of defense with like reasonable
Speaker 4: people being in charge of COVID vaccine recommendations at the CDC.
Speaker 4: And that has gone And just a few minutes ago,
Speaker 4: RFK Junior announced the replacements. And i'd have not had
Speaker 4: enough time to look into all these guys because this
Speaker 4: was literally just thirty minutes ago, But at least half
Speaker 4: of them are at the very least what would be
Speaker 4: considered a COVID vaccine skeptic. Oh crazy cool, right wing
Speaker 4: libertarian types, people who have been dismissed from their academic positions. Basically,
Speaker 4: it's who you would expect RFK two to submit to
Speaker 4: a vaccine advisory panel. The very least half are like cranks.
Speaker 4: I will try to look into the rest of these
Speaker 4: guys in the future. We should probably do a full
Speaker 4: follow up episode eventually on the new panel. So not
Speaker 4: looking good on the COVID vaccine front.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we also have very bad news from the S
Speaker 6: which instead of, like you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 6: I know, crypto scams are supposed to be the SEC's thing,
Speaker 6: but I feel like the FCC also should have fucking
Speaker 6: things for crypto scams. But instead of instead of going
Speaker 6: after the fucking crypto scams, what they're doing is they're
Speaker 6: gonna hold like meetings basically with what is I'm assuming
Speaker 6: is going to be a bunch of the most unhingedy
Speaker 6: transgrifters and anti trans like packs, frauds, and violent bigots.
Speaker 4: Notably not trans people. Yeah, yeah, they will not be included,
Speaker 4: no for the statements.
Speaker 6: No trans people, no trans people, No, no, no, no. They're looking
Speaker 6: into ways to do like FCC investigations for like deceptive
Speaker 6: marketing practices for any doctor and also parents for some reason,
Speaker 6: which how the fuck is you're going after a parent
Speaker 6: for defective marketing? What the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 6: But anyone who like gives a child's any kind of
Speaker 6: trans healthcare.
Speaker 4: I mean, is it specifically trans healthcare or are they
Speaker 4: trying to like specify like surgical procedures because I've seen
Speaker 4: some like Mixtra on this.
Speaker 6: It's unclear right now. The wording that I saw was
Speaker 6: so ambiguous that I think it could be anything, but
Speaker 6: I don't know. And this is I think one of
Speaker 6: the things it's not clear that they know right now,
Speaker 6: right like it's all just really really up in the air.
Speaker 6: What the fuck this is going to turn into or
Speaker 6: if this is even when he turned into anything, we
Speaker 6: had that whole at the beginning of Pride, the FBI
Speaker 6: was like, hey, you can report like doctors doing like
Speaker 6: trans healthcare here too. Things. Yeah, and some of these
Speaker 6: have not really turned into anything yet.
Speaker 4: The anti wilk FBI soliciting tips for people providing trans healthcare.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So like, I don't know, we'll put a
Speaker 6: pin in that one to see if some fucking horrible
Speaker 6: stuff happens out out of there. That's, you know, one
Speaker 6: of the next giant anti trans things that they're doing,
Speaker 6: as all of the anti immigrant stuff happens, as they
Speaker 6: fucking make vaccines illegal.
Speaker 4: Like it's so much of the trends DUFF specifically is
Speaker 4: like just the chilling effect that it's trying to scare
Speaker 4: people away from providing people with the health care that
Speaker 4: they need to live faffillian lives and it's working.
Speaker 6: Like there are there are lots of clinics that have
Speaker 6: like fucking stopped and if you if you are one
Speaker 6: of the people at these clinics, fuck you eat shit well.
Speaker 4: And I think that is where people can apply pressure to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was gonna say, yeah,
Speaker 6: it's like there have been protests.
Speaker 4: You're not going to change the mind of the Trunk
Speaker 4: administration on this topic at this point, but you can
Speaker 4: apply pressure to people who are feeling like they're too
Speaker 4: they're too scared to actually provide healthcare, and they can
Speaker 4: be reminded that no, it is their duty to provide
Speaker 4: people with health care.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and people have successfully gotten clinics to start
Speaker 6: to restart like trans healthcare for kids by just going
Speaker 6: out and protesting. This is a This is also just
Speaker 6: like if you're I don't know, you're in like a
Speaker 6: blue city and you don't know immigrants, and you're like,
Speaker 6: I want to do a protest, this is the thing
Speaker 6: you can do. You can find there's one in Chicago
Speaker 6: right now that I'm blanking on the name of where
Speaker 6: there's there's a bunch of protests. Yeah, but like you
Speaker 6: can find the clinics that are refusing to do this,
Speaker 6: and you can go fucking protest them, and this can
Speaker 6: and will work.
Speaker 5: We've spoken on the show before to healthcare workers who
Speaker 5: are like very dedicated to keeping the provision of gender
Speaker 5: affirming care. So like, if you want to listen to more,
Speaker 5: you can hear that. You can hear how folks are
Speaker 5: organizing to retect that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of those people are fucking heroes, even
Speaker 6: if they probably won't be remembered as such for a
Speaker 6: long time, but they are and keep doing it and
Speaker 6: keep the fight up.
Speaker 4: Let's go and break and then return to finish up
Speaker 4: on an exciting piece of news.
Speaker 1: Hooray, Okay, we are back.
Speaker 4: So as usual, a massive, massive news dropped right after
Speaker 4: we finished recording last week's Executives, and that is the
Speaker 4: Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story got a lot more messy.
Speaker 4: So this is what we're going to close on, possibly
Speaker 4: one of our last Stinky Musk segments.
Speaker 6: But I fucking know it, Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: We'll never forget you.
Speaker 6: Eat on.
Speaker 4: Oh uh, miyah.
Speaker 6: Do you wanna do you wanna start us off here? Yeah,
Speaker 6: let's let's start this off with Okay, I have been seeing.
Speaker 6: This has kind of stopped now that Elon has kind
Speaker 6: of like run crying back the Trump. But like, let's see,
Speaker 6: there was a there was a moment where a lot
Speaker 6: of the like like Matt Iglacias, like a lot of
Speaker 6: the sort of like reasonable Democrats or whatever we're trying
Speaker 6: to be, like we should try to recruit Musk into
Speaker 6: the coulition.
Speaker 4: Now was a scary moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I want to remind everyone this is the
Speaker 6: guy who did two Nazi saluted the inauguration two two
Speaker 6: of them. He did one and then he did a
Speaker 6: second one. People have forgotten that he also did the
Speaker 6: second Nazi Like Census administration came into office. He has
Speaker 6: spent this time destroying the federal government. He has spent
Speaker 6: this time terrorizing like government employees, just shutting down fucking
Speaker 6: important government institutions. Enormous numbers of people are going to
Speaker 6: die because of the things that he's done, like the
Speaker 6: shutting down to USAID, particularly like the vaccine programs, the
Speaker 6: anticha V programs. You know, like he's just been doing
Speaker 6: all of the shift for this entire time, right, he
Speaker 6: has been just systematically looting and tearing apart anything in
Speaker 6: the US federal government that even can remotely do anything
Speaker 6: for a person from again, everything from like HIV prevention
Speaker 6: to like destroying a bunch of the apparatus that like
Speaker 6: figures out what the weather is going to be and
Speaker 6: tells you when storms are coming. Yeah, he has been
Speaker 6: fucking doing that.
Speaker 4: Well, like Mia, the weather is woke. You can't you
Speaker 4: can't forget the woke weather machines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: I just had a meeting with the Southeast Alliance where
Speaker 4: we're deciding the weather for the next few weeks. Fucking God,
Speaker 4: make it less hot here. It's too fucking hot weather,
Speaker 4: too hot. I know, well, we have to raise the temperature.
Speaker 6: It's all.
Speaker 4: It's all part of the data plan, large scale political plan.
Speaker 4: That's right, you get it, James, Yeah, full of the plan.
Speaker 6: More he more riots, I don't know.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 6: Okay. It's also remembering that these two were very very
Speaker 6: close sort of like during this election cycle, right, Trump
Speaker 6: was just straight up going for Buddy, was just I mean,
Speaker 6: he's just just like straight up in Philadelphia, like paying
Speaker 6: people to vote through these like raffles. Elon Elon, Yeah,
Speaker 6: Elon was just like, yeah, straight up doing these right,
Speaker 6: Trump just.
Speaker 4: Like did a tesla ad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's like he just did a tesla ad.
Speaker 4: They first buddy has gotta gotta have each other's backs,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Never say that again.
Speaker 6: So there had started to be a little bit of
Speaker 6: tension between them, like as the tariff sort of mounted,
Speaker 6: because the tariffs are you know, not good for Elon.
Speaker 6: I think things kind of came to a head when
Speaker 6: Elon tried to buy the Wisconsin Supreme Court election and
Speaker 6: just got his ass kicked harder than anyone I've ever
Speaker 6: seen get just absolutely thumped.
Speaker 4: And this is where the policy wonk sector of the
Speaker 4: right was starting to like side eye Elon and question
Speaker 4: his like yeah, yeah, invincibility, right, this this this this
Speaker 4: guy that can come in and like save the Republican Party,
Speaker 4: can secure every future election. That's where that I like
Speaker 4: view of Elon started to really get called into question.
Speaker 4: Maybe this guy is kind of just a one hit wonder.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and and you can also look at a
Speaker 6: lot of the stuff that was sort of happening here
Speaker 6: in terms of like she is staggeringly unpopular, right, everyone
Speaker 6: fucking hates him, and like the Democratic Party did a
Speaker 6: really bad job of this. But like just like the
Speaker 6: party's base and the Tesla protests were very effective and
Speaker 6: like negative, yea polarizing opinion of him. Negative, people really
Speaker 6: really dislike him.
Speaker 4: Like worldwide, Yeah, everyone hates it.
Speaker 7: She cost right wing parties elections and countries that like, yeah,
Speaker 7: he's never been taggering staggering like she she may have
Speaker 7: accidentally saved Germany from fascism for like a decade. Why,
Speaker 7: it's very funny, you know, critical support to the to
Speaker 7: the fascist carmaker who saves Germany from fascist Yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And then so okay, so we've we've been coming up
Speaker 6: to like the end of his appointment as like a
Speaker 6: special what the fuck was the name of the term
Speaker 6: special government employeecial government employee? Oh it was special. I
Speaker 6: was gonna say that. Then I was like, it can't
Speaker 6: be called special government employee.
Speaker 4: We call it a sidge Ski ski Gay. Well, James,
Speaker 4: you can't say that, No, no, you can't.
Speaker 3: I've been canceled.
Speaker 6: But there was always a question of like what exactly
Speaker 6: his role is going to be going forward once his
Speaker 6: time as a special government employee like ran out, Yeah,
Speaker 6: but then he leaves with Steven Miller's.
Speaker 8: Wife, so as we reported in previous episodes, But the
Speaker 8: final break came over the weekend over the.
Speaker 4: Budget, big beautiful budget, and Elon.
Speaker 6: Has been pissed off at this budget for like a while,
Speaker 6: and over the weekend he finally starts straight up doing
Speaker 6: like kill the budget posting and telling people to like
Speaker 6: call their senators to kill the budget instead of just
Speaker 6: saying it's bad. And this is I think actually an
Speaker 6: important thing to note here.
Speaker 4: Like like actively campaigning against the budget bill and yeah yeah,
Speaker 4: which is essentially Trump's like core policy at this point.
Speaker 4: It's like the way to the way to push through
Speaker 4: a whole bunch of the stuff that he can't just
Speaker 4: do himself as president. Yep, is just trojanhorse through this
Speaker 4: budget bill.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. And and and then this gets too, I
Speaker 6: think something that's like a kind of important split in
Speaker 6: the Republican Party right now about this budget, which is
Speaker 6: that like Musk is a is a budget deficit true believer, right,
Speaker 6: Like yes, he and his guls are trying to destroy
Speaker 6: the federal government because like ideologically they don't think it
Speaker 6: should really exist except for like as a tool to
Speaker 6: hand the money, as a tool to like shoot people
Speaker 6: who they don't like but he is part of this
Speaker 6: caudra of tech people. And this is very very common
Speaker 6: in these tech circles. And you see that in some
Speaker 6: finance circles of these people who believe that the US
Speaker 6: is about to like enter like the super Great depression
Speaker 6: because the amount of the GDP being spent on debt
Speaker 6: payments is too high, and so they think if they
Speaker 6: don't like stop this right now, And this is partially
Speaker 6: why they are trying to like crash the economy, because
Speaker 6: they thought that if you crash the economy and he
Speaker 6: did all this terrift stuff or like whatever it would
Speaker 6: it would decrease the cost of of US borrowing. Now
Speaker 6: that didn't happen, right, The interest rates of the bond
Speaker 6: shot up because everyone was like, holy fuck, these like
Speaker 6: absolute maniacs aren't gonna pay their debt. So you know,
Speaker 6: none of the shit is working. But they are like
Speaker 6: true believers on this, yeah right, And this is again
Speaker 6: this is very very very common in tech circles. Like
Speaker 6: these people who like are are really like, oh God,
Speaker 6: the US is gonna die unless we like yeah, like
Speaker 6: unless we start just like destroying the national debt.
Speaker 4: And the whole doge idea is built around like Terminal
Speaker 4: Tech Brain, and it's it's trying to apply the logic
Speaker 4: of these like startups that are kind of scams, but
Speaker 4: trying to apply the logic of startups to an entire government.
Speaker 4: And there was an interview INPR this week where they
Speaker 4: talked to a DOGE employee.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he has an ex DOGE employee.
Speaker 4: And NPR asked about how much fraud and abuse they
Speaker 4: were actually able to find, and he said, quote, I
Speaker 4: did not find the federal government to be rife with waste,
Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. I was expecting some more easy wins.
Speaker 4: I was hoping for opportunity to cut waste, fraud and abuse.
Speaker 4: And I do believe that there is a lot of waste.
Speaker 4: There's minimal amounts of fraud and abuse to me feels
Speaker 4: relatively non existent. And the reason is, I think we
Speaker 4: have a bias as people coming from the tech industry
Speaker 4: where we worked at companies you know, such as Google, Facebook,
Speaker 4: These companies that have plenty of money, are funded by
Speaker 4: investors and have lots of people kind of sitting around
Speaker 4: and doing nothing on growth. So his idea that the
Speaker 4: government must be full of like fraud and abuse is
Speaker 4: because that's just how tech companies work, and he assumed
Speaker 4: that the government works the same as a tech company. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think Elon have uwsed this the exact same way.
Speaker 4: That's why he was doing his like Twitter takeover stuff
Speaker 4: to the government, is he believed that's how it actually functions,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't. That's not really how the federal bureaucracy functions.
Speaker 4: Like like these people have just like eaten the fucking
Speaker 4: kool aid, right, Like none of the Republicans actually believed that,
Speaker 4: like the US like economy functions like a pocketbook, Like
Speaker 4: none of them believe that you're because it's not true, right,
Speaker 4: Like you don't print your own money, so of course
Speaker 4: the US government doesn't find some like pocketbook. But like,
Speaker 4: this is the generation of people where like the people
Speaker 4: who are just so absolutely pilled on the ideology have
Speaker 4: taken over.
Speaker 6: But on the other hand, there is Trump, and Trump
Speaker 6: doesn't give off fuck about any of this, right, Like
Speaker 6: the faction that Trump here is representing is the faction
Speaker 6: of capitalists who just wants tax cuts. You don't give
Speaker 6: off fuck about like all of this weird tech brain stuff.
Speaker 6: Like they elected Trump with the mandate of handing them
Speaker 6: trillions of dollars in these formula tax cuts, and that's
Speaker 6: all they care about. And we're getting a giant conflict
Speaker 6: between them because as much as Trump has just sort
Speaker 6: of been like lying about the budget numbers or whatever
Speaker 6: the fuck, if you're one of these actual budget lock people,
Speaker 6: you can just look at the budget and go, this
Speaker 6: is going to increase the debt by like two trillion
Speaker 6: dollars or whatever the fuck, right, And it's revealed a
Speaker 6: sort of pre existing source of tension inside of the
Speaker 6: base between the sort of tech people and a lot
Speaker 6: of the rest of sectors are capital which aren't as
Speaker 6: ideologically pilled. So let's get into all of the actual
Speaker 6: shit because it's very funny. So Business Insider put together
Speaker 6: a really good minute by minute timeline if you want
Speaker 6: to do that. I'm not going through this shit minute
Speaker 6: by minute.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go through minute by minute. I am.
Speaker 4: I am going to go through tweet by tweet tweet
Speaker 4: because we have to talk about the tweets. The first
Speaker 4: time I've ever really wanted to say that. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: first big tweet, and this was you know, amongst Elon
Speaker 4: crashing out about the budget bill and talking about how
Speaker 4: he's going to cancel certain SpaceX SpaceX projects. But the
Speaker 4: first big tweet from Elon was time to drop the
Speaker 4: really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in the
Speaker 4: Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not
Speaker 4: been made public. Have a nice day, Donald J.
Speaker 3: Trump.
Speaker 4: Mark this place. In the future, the truth will come out.
Speaker 4: So this is this is the really big one, as
Speaker 4: Elon says, the really big Bob.
Speaker 6: I actually think this, in the long run could be
Speaker 6: one of the most important aspects of this entire fight.
Speaker 6: Because the right is incredibly conspiracy brains. They've all been
Speaker 6: like hyped up on this, like Epstein pill shit and
Speaker 6: like like specifically on like the Trump's gonna release Epstein
Speaker 6: files and show all the Democrats right, But they've always
Speaker 6: had like the psychological block about talking about the fact
Speaker 6: that like Trump and Epstein are the most connected motherfuckers
Speaker 6: anyone's ever been. I'm gonna read this. There's a very
Speaker 6: famous quote from a New York magazine article that's like
Speaker 6: Trump talking to a bunch of people at like a meeting. Quote.
Speaker 6: I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy, Trump booms
Speaker 6: from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun. To be
Speaker 6: with it. Has even said that he likes beautiful women
Speaker 6: as much as I do, and many of them are
Speaker 6: on the younger side, no doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys
Speaker 6: his social life. So like he knew, right he was
Speaker 6: transmitting for ages, Yeah, some two and two, Like he's
Speaker 6: he's on Epstein's fucking.
Speaker 4: Plain like he is, like everyone knows this, right, like
Speaker 4: everyone except everyone knows this right, everyone except for like
Speaker 4: the weirdo QAnon, right, yeah, understands this. And some of
Speaker 4: the young people try to justify this as being like, no,
Speaker 4: Trump was like, you know, a deep mold, a deep
Speaker 4: plant who got in close with with Epstein so that
Speaker 4: we could eventually round up and arrest all the Democrat pedophiles. Right,
Speaker 4: That's what they try to justify it. But now that
Speaker 4: that sort of like specific QAnon logic doesn't really exist
Speaker 4: as much on the right anymore. Yeah, now people just
Speaker 4: like memory hole, especially the right, They just memory hole
Speaker 4: that like Trump and Epstein were best buddies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and like and and this is the thing, it's
Speaker 6: been impossible we'll talk about on the right, you just
Speaker 6: can't do it, right. Yeah, And suddenly Elon Musk, who
Speaker 6: is a guy who like is capable of shifting what
Speaker 6: right wing discourse is. Its suddenly like, yeah, this guy's
Speaker 6: a pedophile. I want to read this. This, this post
Speaker 6: that Trump made has response to this, right I missed
Speaker 6: this when this happens. I've only seen this in the
Speaker 6: business inside of reporting, so on truth social Trump's response
Speaker 6: to this was to post it or to truth the truth.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 6: Of David Shown, who tweeted this quote. I was hired
Speaker 6: to lead Jeffrey Fstein's defense as his criminal lawyer nine
Speaker 6: days before he died. He sought my advice for months
Speaker 6: before that. I can authoritatively, unequivocally and definitively say he
Speaker 6: has no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds legit.
Speaker 6: This is one of the most unhinged posts I have
Speaker 6: ever seen. This genuinely, this is this is not a joke.
Speaker 6: If you if you are a fucking poster and you
Speaker 6: are like, what can my contribution to like the future
Speaker 6: of democracy be? You need to push this shit into
Speaker 6: the unhinged like fucking like the depths of like fucking
Speaker 6: eight chan right like into into like the fucking breeding
Speaker 6: layers of the most unhinged reutling spaces in the world.
Speaker 6: You need to be going in and just injecting this
Speaker 6: shit straight into their fucking brains. You you need to
Speaker 6: be like like just like just just hyping them up
Speaker 6: on the most unhinged conspiracies about Trump being like a
Speaker 6: fucking like being a fucking Epstein guy, because this is
Speaker 6: completely unhinged, Like, what do you mean. His defense lawyer,
Speaker 6: who was hired nine days before he died, is supposed
Speaker 6: to have specifically asked him about Trump and Trump's response
Speaker 6: to being called a pedophile as you go to this
Speaker 6: guy fucking inject that shit into right wing discourse. We
Speaker 6: know four chan does this the leftist discourse all the
Speaker 6: time and injects like the worst discourses of all time.
Speaker 6: Fucking do it to them.
Speaker 4: It is odd how this was really the first thing
Speaker 4: that breaks through this block on the right. You had
Speaker 4: to You had Alex Jones like freaking out on Twitter
Speaker 4: being quote, God help us.
Speaker 3: All, Kanye, Oh yay.
Speaker 4: Kanye was freaking out, Turn was crashing out on the timeline.
Speaker 4: It was really bizarre. Trump's immediate response was saying, quote,
Speaker 4: I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should
Speaker 4: have done so months ago, this is one of the
Speaker 4: greatest bills ever presented to Congress, and then goes on
Speaker 4: to talk about how great the bill is. It's wild.
Speaker 4: You had I Miles Chong tweeting about versus the president
Speaker 4: who will win My money is on Elon Trump should
Speaker 4: be impeached and JD. Van should replace him with Elon
Speaker 4: Musk boosting this claim saying yes, yeah.
Speaker 3: It's pretty good. It says pretty funny.
Speaker 4: Something that's extremely indicative of the current cultural moment that
Speaker 4: we are at is during this spat, when when things
Speaker 4: really broke out on Twitter and truth social during during
Speaker 4: this spat, both the Vice President of the United States
Speaker 4: and the director of the FBI were on two separate
Speaker 4: podcasts and got to live react to this very funny Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: I am going to play the clip. I will start
Speaker 4: with JD. Vance reacting live on a podcast by someone
Speaker 4: named THEO Vaughn.
Speaker 6: Here.
Speaker 9: Here's here's my basic reaction to like all this stuff
Speaker 9: is luck. First of all, like absolutely not. Donald Trump
Speaker 9: didn't do anything wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. Like there's the
Speaker 9: guy is whatever the Democrats and the media says about him,
Speaker 9: that's totally bs. Here here's my basic my basic read
Speaker 9: on it. First of all, I'm the vice President's the
Speaker 9: President Trump. My loyalties are always going to be with
Speaker 9: the President. And I think that Elon, he's an incredible entrepreneur.
Speaker 9: He's actually done I think does was really good. This
Speaker 9: sort of effort to root out waste fraud abuse in
Speaker 9: our country is really good. And and and look, man,
Speaker 9: I'm always going to be loyal to the President, and
Speaker 9: I hope that eventually Elon kind of comes back into
Speaker 9: the fold. Maybe that's not possible now because he's gone,
Speaker 9: so nuclear hope it is.
Speaker 4: Do you know why?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean so, look, I think number one, Elon's
Speaker 9: new to politics, right, So part of it is this
Speaker 9: guy got into politics and it's has suffered a lot
Speaker 9: for it. But I mean, I and I get the
Speaker 9: frustration there, and I get the frustration that me. Look,
Speaker 9: Congress got the spending bill, but the main purpose of
Speaker 9: the bill is not actually spending or cutting spending, though
Speaker 9: it does cut a lot of spending. The main purpose
Speaker 9: of the bill is to prevent the biggest tax increase.
Speaker 9: But I understand, like it's a good bill, it's not
Speaker 9: a perfect bill. Like the process in DC if you're
Speaker 9: a business leader, you probably get frustrated with that process
Speaker 9: because it's more you know, bureaucratic, it's more slow moving.
Speaker 9: So I think there's just some frustrations there. But I really, man,
Speaker 9: I think it's a huge mistake for him to go
Speaker 9: after the president like that, and I think that if
Speaker 9: he and the president are in some blood feud, most importantly,
Speaker 9: it's going to be bad for the country. But I
Speaker 9: think it's going to be I don't think it's going
Speaker 9: to be good for Elon either.
Speaker 4: So that's jd Vance's reaction to this. He eventually got
Speaker 4: put onto like damage control. We'll talk about that in
Speaker 4: a sec. What is more interesting to me is cash
Speaker 4: Ptel's reaction because Patel has been taking fire from the
Speaker 4: right for being a little bit soft on the promise
Speaker 4: of releasing the full Epstein files, trying to downplay the
Speaker 4: tent at the files and say there's really nothing in
Speaker 4: there that's super notable, and this has gotten him in
Speaker 4: trouble because him and people like Dan Bongino have for
Speaker 4: years made a living out of talking about how the
Speaker 4: Epstein files is going to, you know, ruin the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4: They have they have all of this evidence all this footage,
Speaker 4: and now that these guys are in power, they're simply
Speaker 4: not talking about this issue. And this has got some
Speaker 4: of the qan On right upset and cash Footel's reaction
Speaker 4: to this is is frankly baffling. I'm not participating in
Speaker 4: that conversation.
Speaker 6: Have a nice day, DD so much takets fall away.
Speaker 3: Are going back and forth about different things.
Speaker 6: And yeah, he said he was disappointing Elon. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: want to leave Jesus Christ. That's a crazy thing to say.
Speaker 6: How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump
Speaker 6: is in the Epstein files or does he have access
Speaker 6: to them?
Speaker 1: I don't know how he would, But I'm just staying
Speaker 1: out of the Trump Elon thing.
Speaker 3: That's way outside of my life. I know my lane,
Speaker 3: and that.
Speaker 4: Ain't What do you mean? This isn't your lane. You're
Speaker 4: the director of the FBI, you are in charge of
Speaker 4: the Epstein files. This specifically is your lane. This, this
Speaker 4: one thing is actually your lane. It's unhinged. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: His big thing now is yes to wear a hunting
Speaker 3: camera all the time. I guess it's his new lane.
Speaker 4: So after the heat of this started to die down,
Speaker 4: you started to get more of the right try to,
Speaker 4: I guess, soothe the tension. A lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of people trying to trying to talk about coming together.
Speaker 4: You had right wing commentators trying to frame this as
Speaker 4: two alpha males beefing right this this is this is
Speaker 4: just how you just how alpha male's.
Speaker 3: Beef we got. We've got to quote some of these because.
Speaker 4: Jack Pasovic famously said, some of y'all can't handle two
Speaker 4: high agency males going at it, and it really shows
Speaker 4: this is direct communication, fallow centric versus indirect communication. Guy nocentric,
Speaker 4: I understand you aren't used to it. Wonderful stuff from
Speaker 4: Pasovic as usual. Yeah, you also had our friends at
Speaker 4: the New Norm posting videos about trying to solve this
Speaker 4: dispute through a dancing competition. Roll the clip.
Speaker 6: Can't we all just get along?
Speaker 2: We've got to cut you to say.
Speaker 4: Hey, I do find it odd that a lot of
Speaker 4: people's innate reaction after the heat died down was even
Speaker 4: if Elon Musk is semi credibly accusing the president of
Speaker 4: being a pedophile. Can't we just all get along together?
Speaker 4: I don't know why we can't just get along? This
Speaker 4: is this is hurting the country, and Elon's like remark
Speaker 4: about Trump being in the files is in and of
Speaker 4: itself just kind of baffling from Elon's perspective, because he
Speaker 4: was bragging in tweets about how he is responsible for
Speaker 4: Trump being elected, and Trump was then having to respond
Speaker 4: to that by claiming that they would have won the
Speaker 4: election without Elon, but Elon was saying that without him,
Speaker 4: Trump would have lost the election right after he called
Speaker 4: him a pedophile, which is super interesting because it's essentially
Speaker 4: Musk saying, I'm fine with making sure a pedophile gets
Speaker 4: elected president, but I draw the line at a bad
Speaker 4: spending bill. Yeah, yeah, that's that's really what is too
Speaker 4: much for him. The implication is that if he didn't
Speaker 4: get essentially shafted from the White House, he just would
Speaker 4: have kept this a secret. And he's like okay with
Speaker 4: working with Trump otherwise except for the bad bill, and
Speaker 4: ye maybe he's maybe he's butt heard about Trump threatening
Speaker 4: to terminate his governmental subsidies and contracts, but like, come on, Elons,
Speaker 4: this is crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not the most well considered.
Speaker 5: It is fantastic that the richest man in the world
Speaker 5: is addicted to posting, because we get some real we
Speaker 5: get some real banging posters.
Speaker 4: Poster's madness. It never never fails.
Speaker 6: I gotta say though, Trump's posting response terrible. This guy
Speaker 6: has washed There's nothing there. He's fucking gone mentally like
Speaker 6: he could have fucking get Like even twenty twenty, Trump
Speaker 6: just destroys him in one tweet like none of this
Speaker 6: is He's there's nothing left there. He's a shell. Now.
Speaker 4: They have now been making attempts to fold the team
Speaker 4: back together. It was reported recently that actually on Friday night,
Speaker 4: which was the day after this spat on unfolded on Twitter,
Speaker 4: but a Friday night jd Vance and Whiteouse chief of
Speaker 4: staff Susie Willis had a call with Elon to de
Speaker 4: escalate the conflict. Eventually, Elon started deleting some of his
Speaker 4: more inflammatory tweets about the president coward and has now
Speaker 4: posted quote, I regret some of my posts about President
Speaker 4: Trump last week. They went too far.
Speaker 3: I said the thing that wasn't supposed to say.
Speaker 4: So he got us stern talking to by jd Vance,
Speaker 4: who is kind of caught in between Trump and Musk
Speaker 4: here but has stated that his loyalties will will always
Speaker 4: lie with the President. So yeah, that is the current
Speaker 4: state of the Musk and Trump fallout, it will not
Speaker 4: be able to go back to how it was, but
Speaker 4: they might try to play nice again. Yep, I think
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