WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #20

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<v Speaker 1>As media.

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<v Speaker 2>black bands out in Paramount, black bagging, family, kidnapping, broad

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<v Speaker 2>bro take it to their face, Brody masking in.

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<v Speaker 3>It's paper thing.

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<v Speaker 2>We work for the border. We just following with all

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<v Speaker 2>this with fear. Wivertakes them matches a facade. We exercise

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<v Speaker 2>our rights, they said National Guard, and one thinks for certain,

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<v Speaker 2>burned down the regime when the President chooses to send

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<v Speaker 2>the marine and die in La. Hey, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>a game. It is smoke bomb flash. That was the

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<v Speaker 2>data FEDS came. That was the data Feds came. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the data feds. You live in die in la Why,

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<v Speaker 2>nothing will be the same. It's smoke bomb flash. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the data Feds came. That was the data Feds came.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the data Feds came.

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<v Speaker 4>This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 4>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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<v Speaker 4>and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today,

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<v Speaker 4>joined by Mia Wang and James Stout. This episode, we

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<v Speaker 4>are covering the week of June four to June eleventh.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's start James with an update on the protests happening

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<v Speaker 4>in la In response to mass ice raids in the

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<v Speaker 4>Los Angeles area and also around the country.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so I've been in LA. I was up covering it.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm back home now. It's on Wednesday. We did a

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<v Speaker 5>whole episode about this people can listen to. In terms

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<v Speaker 5>of update, I think things were a little bit smaller tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>There were a large number of detentions.

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<v Speaker 4>Made late tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean last night, Tuesday night?

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<v Speaker 4>Tuesday night, okay.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>To summarize, right, the first two nights saw the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Caught off guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the weekend was pretty spicy.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it got pretty well that there. A couple of

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<v Speaker 5>cop cars got destroyed. I think some Weimos made the

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<v Speaker 5>ultimate sacrifice our rip Weimo yep oh. I saw them

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<v Speaker 5>trucking the Weimos out and there was not much Weimo left,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it was the remains of the waim passed me,

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<v Speaker 5>gone but not forgotten. So by Monday morning, they had

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<v Speaker 5>flooded Los Angeles with police. I saw police from LAPD,

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<v Speaker 5>LA SD, I saw police from fps DHS, National Guard,

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<v Speaker 5>California Highway patrols play it's like Pokemon for cops up there,

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<v Speaker 5>and that resulted in them splitting up protesters cattling and

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<v Speaker 5>detaining people on Monday night, and they made extremely liberal

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<v Speaker 5>use of impact munitions, chemical ritans, etc. Batterday Sunday, Monday Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 5>thousands of impact munitions that you can find kissings all

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<v Speaker 5>over DTLA if you just go walk around. I saw

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of like people had tagged up a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of buildings in DTLA. But from what I've seen, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know. We'll see, Right, It's also of the week,

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<v Speaker 5>so maybe things will get bigger again over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I things can get less combative during the week because

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<v Speaker 4>people are busy with work and keeping themselves like fed

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<v Speaker 4>and had housed, and then on the weekend things can

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes open back up again.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And also it's worth it's worth noting how these

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<v Speaker 6>how these specific protests are flaring up, which is that

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<v Speaker 6>like these ones are flaring up when Ice like drags

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<v Speaker 6>people out of a place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is directly in response to ICE kidnapping their.

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<v Speaker 6>Names, right, And so you know, the next time ICE

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<v Speaker 6>does a bunch of kidnappings of people, there's a chance

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<v Speaker 6>to do it will pop off again because people are

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<v Speaker 6>being like, holy shit, don't take my neighbor away.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the LA protests are already happening in a sequence.

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<v Speaker 4>Right We had stuff happening in San Diego, We then

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<v Speaker 4>had stuff in Minneapolis, We then had stuff in Chicago.

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<v Speaker 4>We then had the really big flare of which was LA.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think what's interesting right now is that instead

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<v Speaker 4>of having just like nationwide riots like there was in

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty, this is more like a sequence that actually

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<v Speaker 4>directly follows the actions of ICE. And in some ways,

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<v Speaker 4>I think this can be harder to combat. If every

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<v Speaker 4>city has the capacity to do what LA has done

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<v Speaker 4>in response to the actions of ICE, that follow the

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<v Speaker 4>actions of ICE, that could be harder to prepare for

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<v Speaker 4>than just the federal government realizing that we have to

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<v Speaker 4>do massive counter insurgency everywhere, all at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>like what happened in twenty twenty. If instead this is

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<v Speaker 4>a rolling sequence of protests that happened directly in response

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<v Speaker 4>to ICE actions, any city could be next. Instead of

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to prepare for nationwide riots, they have to

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<v Speaker 4>be this more like mobile fluid force. They have to

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<v Speaker 4>respond to different outbursts that happen in different cities at

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<v Speaker 4>different times. And I think the other advantage that this

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<v Speaker 4>model has is that the actual protesters themselves can also

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<v Speaker 4>iterate on tactics. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel

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<v Speaker 4>every time, you can take what happened in a previous city,

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<v Speaker 4>like a week ago, two weeks ago, and iterate on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Iterate on what was unsuccessfully, what captured attention, and what

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<v Speaker 4>was able to catch the cops off guard, minimizing mass arrests.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, in terms of the state response, just in case

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<v Speaker 5>people have missed it, right, two thousand National Guard troops,

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<v Speaker 5>seven hundred United States Marines. The Marines came from twenty

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<v Speaker 5>nine Palms. I know the Core has like an urban

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<v Speaker 5>warfare school, or at least had one there in twenty

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<v Speaker 5>nine pounds. Obviously, Camp Pendleton is a bigger base. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>I see, it might not be geograph they're both huge

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<v Speaker 5>and closer to LA, but they sent them from twenty

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<v Speaker 5>nine Palms instead.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't see any Marines.

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<v Speaker 5>They're just supposed to be protecting federal assets and not

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<v Speaker 5>supposed to be out there like straight up policing. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>that's you know, unconstitutional. One can make a case it's

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<v Speaker 5>unconstitutional to be deploying them at all in this fashion.

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<v Speaker 5>There are some on the streets now National Guard is

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<v Speaker 5>actually making arrests on the street. Marines have not as

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<v Speaker 5>of Wednesday, but some of the Marines have been deployed.

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<v Speaker 5>There's upwards of seven hundred who are like in the

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<v Speaker 5>process of being deployed at LA streets right now, out

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<v Speaker 5>of two thousand available troops, some of which are actually

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<v Speaker 5>still receiving training on standard rules of force. So these

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<v Speaker 5>people do not have necessarily like extensive training on police

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<v Speaker 5>crowd control, but are currently brushing up on crowd control tactics. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what I saw from National Guard was like it seemed

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<v Speaker 5>to be by rank, although I'm not certain of that

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<v Speaker 5>guy with with shields and sticks right, just straight up

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<v Speaker 5>poles as opposed to like truncheons with like a T

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<v Speaker 5>shape or an L shape or whatever. And then probably

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<v Speaker 5>one in every five or six had an M four

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<v Speaker 5>with a magazine. That's a gun for people who aren't familiar,

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<v Speaker 5>it's in AAR fifteen and that's obviously live ammunition. So

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<v Speaker 5>like they didn't seem to have any access to like

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<v Speaker 5>less lethals or they didn't bring them if they did that,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know about the Marine. And obviously we saw

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<v Speaker 5>like police using less lethals and then LASD also had

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<v Speaker 5>some cops with M fours amongst their formations.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is just about to like really expand outside

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<v Speaker 4>of LA and California admidst anti ICE protests across Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>Governor Greg Abbott just deployed the Texas National Guard, and

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<v Speaker 4>on Tuesday night, I believe MSNBC broke the story that

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<v Speaker 4>ICE is about to send special Response team quote unquote

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<v Speaker 4>tactical units to five Democrat controlled areas, namely in New

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<v Speaker 4>York City, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and northern Virginia.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is like a swat team if you're not familiar.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there was a DHSSRT that ended up responding in too,

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<v Speaker 5>that South Park protest in San Diego that we mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>last week or the week before.

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<v Speaker 4>As of Wednesday, there's already been protests this week and

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<v Speaker 4>over half US states. This will certainly continue throughout the weekend.

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<v Speaker 4>At least for LA. On Tuesday night, the mayor announced

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<v Speaker 4>an eight pm curfew in downtown Los Angeles. That were

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<v Speaker 4>mass arrests Tuesday night, hundreds of people. I think the

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<v Speaker 4>other advantage that this kind of rolling sequence model that

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<v Speaker 4>we've seen with like San Diego, Minneapolis, Chicago, LA is

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<v Speaker 4>that not only does it give people time to like

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<v Speaker 4>iterate on tactics, it also gives people a break. If

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<v Speaker 4>anyone who survived twenty twenty, like you know how how

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<v Speaker 4>intense burnout can be from just doing that all the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and having the built in brakes where you can like

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<v Speaker 4>recover physically and mentally while iterating on tactics, that could

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 6>I think also this one thing we should notice about this,

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<v Speaker 6>which is that like there's a very clear actual thing

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<v Speaker 6>you're trying to do here, which is stop them from

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<v Speaker 6>taking these people. And even if you fail to immediately

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<v Speaker 6>take someone, they stop them taking someone in the moment.

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<v Speaker 6>Every single like second they're having to do dealing with

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<v Speaker 6>this shit means that they're not doing it. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 6>you're you're degrading their capacity. Yeah, exactly. The time is

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<v Speaker 6>like the most valuable asset year. Yeah. And and like

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<v Speaker 6>obviously again like the larger goals you want to like expel,

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<v Speaker 6>Like you know, like one of the most common things

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<v Speaker 6>I'm hearing from people is just like ice out of

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<v Speaker 6>the city, right, Like we don't want them to be

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<v Speaker 6>doing these raids, but every every time they're forced to

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<v Speaker 6>like actually face resistance when they're doing the raid makes

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<v Speaker 6>it much much harder for them to do what they

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<v Speaker 6>have to start planning for there to be resistance to

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<v Speaker 6>the rage, which slows them down. And yeah, everything you

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<v Speaker 6>could do to put fucking wrenches into the gears until

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<v Speaker 6>the machine breaks is good. And there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 6>very clear path from A to B, two C in

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<v Speaker 6>a way that they're kind of aren't. Like. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 6>rely on politicians doing stuff. It just relies on us

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<v Speaker 6>stopping them.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah doing stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>The city of Glendale did cancel its detention contract with ICE, right,

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<v Speaker 5>so they won't be detaining people there. So like a

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<v Speaker 5>little bit of progress there. And Gavin Newsom has said

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<v Speaker 5>some shit about the deployment of the National Guard and

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<v Speaker 5>California as far the court case, like Newsom has not

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<v Speaker 5>done everything in his power to stop that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's Gavin Newsom. What do you expect?

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be back in the ela of things continue there.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's certainly the biggest protest we've seen this time

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<v Speaker 5>around in the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, let's go and break and come back to

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<v Speaker 4>discuss more news.

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<v Speaker 5>We are back, and unlike people from twelve countries who

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<v Speaker 5>will not be coming back to the United States for

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<v Speaker 5>the foreseeable future because the Trump administration has announced.

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<v Speaker 3>A new travel ban.

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<v Speaker 5>The form of the travel ban is basically, anyone who

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<v Speaker 5>applies for a visa or is in the process of

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<v Speaker 5>applying for a visa currently, if they are from one

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<v Speaker 5>of these twelve countries is unable to obtain a visa

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<v Speaker 5>to the United States. Right the twelve countries, seven have

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<v Speaker 5>partial restrictions, and then the full ban is on Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad,

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<v Speaker 5>the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrere, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan,

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<v Speaker 5>and Yemen. And then Borundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan,

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<v Speaker 5>and Venezuela have like a higher barrier right and some

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<v Speaker 5>visas are not available to them.

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<v Speaker 4>Is an interesting inclusion there, Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They looked at two criteria.

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<v Speaker 5>E seems because Trump made an executive order at the

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<v Speaker 5>start of his presidency like looking to identify countries for

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<v Speaker 5>a travel ban. The two criteria they had were visa

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<v Speaker 5>over stay percentages and the quote unquote not having a

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<v Speaker 5>competent central authority to cooperate with vetting, right, So, like

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<v Speaker 5>you can't do a background check on someone if their

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<v Speaker 5>country doesn't have that facility. It's a claim, right. I

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<v Speaker 5>think they got vanmar On visa overst eight percentages. It's

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<v Speaker 5>worth noting, right that they use percentages and not raw

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<v Speaker 5>numbers for a reason, because, yeah, a certain percentage of

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<v Speaker 5>Burmese people may overstay their visa. I think it's twenty

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<v Speaker 5>seven point one percent. That amounts to five hundred and

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<v Speaker 5>forty three individuals. If we look at, for instance, France,

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<v Speaker 5>these are twenty twenty three numbers. About zero point six

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<v Speaker 5>percent of French people overstay their visa. That amounts to

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<v Speaker 5>nine one hundred and eighty two individuals. Right, So, like

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<v Speaker 5>a percentage is great, but if a big percentage of

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<v Speaker 5>a small thing is still a small thing. Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 5>is how they're attempting to justify it though in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of bulletproofing it through the courts. Obviously, they didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>the best luck with their travel ban in the first administration,

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<v Speaker 5>so using this tactic is one that they're hoping will

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<v Speaker 5>justify it.

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<v Speaker 3>Will it will stick the landing through the courts.

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<v Speaker 5>Should add that they have some exemptions right, existing visa

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<v Speaker 5>holders who are currently within the United States can remain

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<v Speaker 5>in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>In practice, lots of these countries only get single entry visas,

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<v Speaker 5>so it might be hard for them to leave and

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<v Speaker 5>come back. But it's sometimes I've heard it reported that

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<v Speaker 5>all these people, like people from these countries can no

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<v Speaker 5>longer come to the United States, will be in the

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<v Speaker 5>United States, and that's not true. There are exemptions for

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<v Speaker 5>people who are dual citizens. There are exemptions for adoptive children.

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<v Speaker 5>There are exemptions for ethnic and religious minorities in Iran.

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<v Speaker 5>There are exemptions for sports teams because the United States thing, well,

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<v Speaker 5>the United States is holding the World Cup and the Olympics, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>so like it would be something of a fascical spectacle

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<v Speaker 5>if you know, nineteen countries were not represented. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>the Olympic Games is something of a fascal spectacle to

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<v Speaker 5>begin with, one could argue, but yeah, they didn't want that, right,

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<v Speaker 5>they didn't want that like international spectacle. So a professional

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<v Speaker 5>athlete visa is hard to get at the best of times,

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<v Speaker 5>so that is a high bar, but those ones still

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<v Speaker 5>seem to be available. And then there's also exemptions for

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<v Speaker 5>SIV wrote special immigrant visas. These are people who have

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<v Speaker 5>worked closely with the United States. The vast bulk of

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<v Speaker 5>them will be Afghan people, people who worked as interpreters

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<v Speaker 5>or otherwise cooperated with the United States during the twenty

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<v Speaker 5>years the United States was at.

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<v Speaker 3>War in Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, I've seen that mis reported, including by people who

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<v Speaker 5>really should know better. But you know, I'm never not

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<v Speaker 5>disappointed in a lot of people's immigration coverage. This will

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<v Speaker 5>be challenging court, right, but I think they have gone

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<v Speaker 5>some way to trying to make this a bit more

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<v Speaker 5>bulletproof than they did before. And it is concerning that

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<v Speaker 5>they seem to have a better chance. Obviously pretty concerning,

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<v Speaker 5>especially for US, you know, with our extensive reboarding on

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<v Speaker 5>Burma or Mihanmar, that those people can't come here and

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<v Speaker 5>be safe. Yeah, that's a travel man in a nutshell,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess.

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<v Speaker 6>Also, I think it's worth noting so like this is

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<v Speaker 6>just an expanded version Well, I guess it's like a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of differences, but it's basically an expanded version

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<v Speaker 6>of the Muslim band from his first term.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, with some new countries, and I think maybe the

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<v Speaker 5>removal of some countries from previously.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And like it's worth noting that, like in Trump.

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<v Speaker 6>One like that immediately caused the airport protests, which were

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<v Speaker 6>like the first big protests of the administration that were

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<v Speaker 6>extremely effective until people like went home. And this time

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<v Speaker 6>it's basically not been a news story because we're so

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<v Speaker 6>far along that the protests have been about like ices

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<v Speaker 6>dragging our neighbors away, and yeah, I just think that's

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<v Speaker 6>fucking bad as shit. And also the airport protests, like,

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<v Speaker 6>we're really effective.

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<v Speaker 3>They some of the more effective protests in those years. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I am yea.

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<v Speaker 5>I did see a flyer for an airport protest, but

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<v Speaker 5>I've seen no evidence of one's occurring.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. I had heard that there was going to be

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<v Speaker 6>one on Monday, but that it just like didn't happen,

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't know what's going on with that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>but that was a thing that was pretty effective, and

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<v Speaker 6>they also didn't eat the shirt of everyone for most

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<v Speaker 6>of it, which was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well Mia, talking of beats, how about we dropped

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<v Speaker 5>some beats right now with this sick tariff song.

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<v Speaker 4>Great work, James, thank you, thank you, Rocking Jazz Rocket

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<v Speaker 4>Jazz Bot Sorry Rocket Jazz Rocking Jazz bo.

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<v Speaker 6>The Donald Trump has apparently, according to him, resolved that

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<v Speaker 6>the trade war with China. He's planning the negotiation one

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<v Speaker 6>he's claiming, he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Claiming victory, mission accomplished. Ye the claim that.

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<v Speaker 6>He's making out of the out of the London negotiations.

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<v Speaker 6>And I want to point out that I have not

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<v Speaker 6>heard anything from the Chinese side. It's possible there will

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<v Speaker 6>be soft from the Chinese side by the time this

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<v Speaker 6>episode comes out. It's possible this whole deal will have

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<v Speaker 6>collass by the time this comes out. It seems like

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<v Speaker 6>the deal is that US maintains tariffs at fifty five percent,

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<v Speaker 6>which is what they're at right now, China maintains ten

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<v Speaker 6>percent tariffs, and then China ensures US access to rare

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<v Speaker 6>earth metals, and then the US does Trump was talking

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<v Speaker 6>about the US not actually doing a crackdown on like

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<v Speaker 6>Chinese international students. So who knows what the fuck is

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<v Speaker 6>going to happen with any of that. That is the

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<v Speaker 6>reporting that's coming out right now. I don't know. Quite frankly,

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<v Speaker 6>I am skeptical this is going to hold. I again, like,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't know if, like in two days

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<v Speaker 6>when this episode comes out of any of this is

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<v Speaker 6>going to be true because again, we have heard nothing

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<v Speaker 6>from the Chinese side. It has all been from Trump,

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<v Speaker 6>so who the fuck knows. But yeah, that's that. That is.

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<v Speaker 6>That is the late of tariff news. This is a

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<v Speaker 6>kind of short one.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that's what we've got. That's exciting. That's exciting that

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<v Speaker 4>we won. Trade is back. I can go back to

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<v Speaker 4>buying everything I owned from Timu, no problem.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean, I give my usual disclaimer that fifty

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<v Speaker 6>percent tariff on China is like fucking ruinous the global economy,

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<v Speaker 6>et cetera, et cetera. I do genuinely hope that, like

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<v Speaker 6>the Chinese international students are getting cracked out on because

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<v Speaker 6>Jesus fucking Christ, those poor kids. All of these policies

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<v Speaker 6>are tied together in this sort of like unhinged like

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<v Speaker 6>American Nationalist Project etctera, et cetera. They're all connected. They

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<v Speaker 6>hate us all and yay, really really fun time to

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<v Speaker 6>be a Chinese trans woman in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA, Okay, it's also fun to enjoy the COVID vaccine

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<v Speaker 4>because we might not get it for much longer. I

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<v Speaker 4>guess I'll do a brief update on an episode I

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<v Speaker 4>did with Cave a few weeks ago. So RFK has

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<v Speaker 4>now dismissed the entirety of the ACIP, the CDC's Vaccine

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<v Speaker 4>Advisory Committee that has just been completely dissolved. This happened

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<v Speaker 4>on Tuesday. That was the big theory that Cave had

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<v Speaker 4>is that if that panel gets dissolved, that that was

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<v Speaker 4>kind of the last line of defense with like reasonable

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<v Speaker 4>people being in charge of COVID vaccine recommendations at the CDC.

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<v Speaker 4>And that has gone And just a few minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 4>RFK Junior announced the replacements. And i'd have not had

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<v Speaker 4>enough time to look into all these guys because this

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<v Speaker 4>was literally just thirty minutes ago, But at least half

0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:25.919
<v Speaker 4>of them are at the very least what would be

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<v Speaker 4>considered a COVID vaccine skeptic. Oh crazy cool, right wing

0:19:30.840 --> 0:19:35.920
<v Speaker 4>libertarian types, people who have been dismissed from their academic positions. Basically,

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<v Speaker 4>it's who you would expect RFK two to submit to

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<v Speaker 4>a vaccine advisory panel. The very least half are like cranks.

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<v Speaker 4>I will try to look into the rest of these

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<v Speaker 4>guys in the future. We should probably do a full

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<v Speaker 4>follow up episode eventually on the new panel. So not

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<v Speaker 4>looking good on the COVID vaccine front.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we also have very bad news from the S

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<v Speaker 6>which instead of, like you know, I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 6>I know, crypto scams are supposed to be the SEC's thing,

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<v Speaker 6>but I feel like the FCC also should have fucking

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<v Speaker 6>things for crypto scams. But instead of instead of going

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<v Speaker 6>after the fucking crypto scams, what they're doing is they're

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<v Speaker 6>gonna hold like meetings basically with what is I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be a bunch of the most unhingedy

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<v Speaker 6>transgrifters and anti trans like packs, frauds, and violent bigots.

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<v Speaker 4>Notably not trans people. Yeah, yeah, they will not be included,

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<v Speaker 4>no for the statements.

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<v Speaker 6>No trans people, no trans people, No, no, no, no. They're looking

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<v Speaker 6>into ways to do like FCC investigations for like deceptive

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<v Speaker 6>marketing practices for any doctor and also parents for some reason,

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<v Speaker 6>which how the fuck is you're going after a parent

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<v Speaker 6>for defective marketing? What the fuck are you doing here?

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<v Speaker 6>But anyone who like gives a child's any kind of

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<v Speaker 6>trans healthcare.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, is it specifically trans healthcare or are they

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<v Speaker 4>trying to like specify like surgical procedures because I've seen

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<v Speaker 4>some like Mixtra on this.

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<v Speaker 6>It's unclear right now. The wording that I saw was

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<v Speaker 6>so ambiguous that I think it could be anything, but

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. And this is I think one of

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<v Speaker 6>the things it's not clear that they know right now,

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<v Speaker 6>right like it's all just really really up in the air.

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<v Speaker 6>What the fuck this is going to turn into or

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<v Speaker 6>if this is even when he turned into anything, we

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<v Speaker 6>had that whole at the beginning of Pride, the FBI

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<v Speaker 6>was like, hey, you can report like doctors doing like

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<v Speaker 6>trans healthcare here too. Things. Yeah, and some of these

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<v Speaker 6>have not really turned into anything yet.

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<v Speaker 4>The anti wilk FBI soliciting tips for people providing trans healthcare.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, So like, I don't know, we'll put a

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<v Speaker 6>pin in that one to see if some fucking horrible

0:21:40.280 --> 0:21:43.000
<v Speaker 6>stuff happens out out of there. That's, you know, one

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<v Speaker 6>of the next giant anti trans things that they're doing,

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<v Speaker 6>as all of the anti immigrant stuff happens, as they

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<v Speaker 6>fucking make vaccines illegal.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's so much of the trends DUFF specifically is

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<v Speaker 4>like just the chilling effect that it's trying to scare

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<v Speaker 4>people away from providing people with the health care that

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<v Speaker 4>they need to live faffillian lives and it's working.

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<v Speaker 6>Like there are there are lots of clinics that have

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<v Speaker 6>like fucking stopped and if you if you are one

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<v Speaker 6>of the people at these clinics, fuck you eat shit well.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think that is where people can apply pressure to.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was gonna say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it's like there have been protests.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not going to change the mind of the Trunk

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<v Speaker 4>administration on this topic at this point, but you can

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<v Speaker 4>apply pressure to people who are feeling like they're too

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<v Speaker 4>they're too scared to actually provide healthcare, and they can

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<v Speaker 4>be reminded that no, it is their duty to provide

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<v Speaker 4>people with health care.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and and people have successfully gotten clinics to start

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<v Speaker 6>to restart like trans healthcare for kids by just going

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<v Speaker 6>out and protesting. This is a This is also just

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<v Speaker 6>like if you're I don't know, you're in like a

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<v Speaker 6>blue city and you don't know immigrants, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 6>I want to do a protest, this is the thing

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<v Speaker 6>you can do. You can find there's one in Chicago

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<v Speaker 6>right now that I'm blanking on the name of where

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<v Speaker 6>there's there's a bunch of protests. Yeah, but like you

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<v Speaker 6>can find the clinics that are refusing to do this,

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<v Speaker 6>and you can go fucking protest them, and this can

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<v Speaker 6>and will work.

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<v Speaker 5>We've spoken on the show before to healthcare workers who

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<v Speaker 5>are like very dedicated to keeping the provision of gender

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<v Speaker 5>affirming care. So like, if you want to listen to more,

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.080
<v Speaker 5>you can hear that. You can hear how folks are

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<v Speaker 5>organizing to retect that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and all of those people are fucking heroes, even

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<v Speaker 6>if they probably won't be remembered as such for a

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<v Speaker 6>long time, but they are and keep doing it and

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<v Speaker 6>keep the fight up.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go and break and then return to finish up

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<v Speaker 4>on an exciting piece of news.

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<v Speaker 1>Hooray, Okay, we are back.

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<v Speaker 4>So as usual, a massive, massive news dropped right after

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<v Speaker 4>we finished recording last week's Executives, and that is the

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<v Speaker 4>Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story got a lot more messy.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is what we're going to close on, possibly

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<v Speaker 4>one of our last Stinky Musk segments.

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<v Speaker 6>But I fucking know it, Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll never forget you.

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<v Speaker 6>Eat on.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh uh, miyah.

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<v Speaker 6>Do you wanna do you wanna start us off here? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>let's let's start this off with Okay, I have been seeing.

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<v Speaker 6>This has kind of stopped now that Elon has kind

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<v Speaker 6>of like run crying back the Trump. But like, let's see,

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<v Speaker 6>there was a there was a moment where a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of the like like Matt Iglacias, like a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>the sort of like reasonable Democrats or whatever we're trying

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<v Speaker 6>to be, like we should try to recruit Musk into

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<v Speaker 6>the coulition.

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<v Speaker 4>Now was a scary moment.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, I want to remind everyone this is the

0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 6>guy who did two Nazi saluted the inauguration two two

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 6>of them. He did one and then he did a

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:39.280
<v Speaker 6>second one. People have forgotten that he also did the

0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:42.159
<v Speaker 6>second Nazi Like Census administration came into office. He has

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<v Speaker 6>spent this time destroying the federal government. He has spent

0:24:44.200 --> 0:24:49.479
<v Speaker 6>this time terrorizing like government employees, just shutting down fucking

0:24:50.119 --> 0:24:53.840
<v Speaker 6>important government institutions. Enormous numbers of people are going to

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<v Speaker 6>die because of the things that he's done, like the

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.480
<v Speaker 6>shutting down to USAID, particularly like the vaccine programs, the

0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.760
<v Speaker 6>anticha V programs. You know, like he's just been doing

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 6>all of the shift for this entire time, right, he

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.960
<v Speaker 6>has been just systematically looting and tearing apart anything in

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 6>the US federal government that even can remotely do anything

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 6>for a person from again, everything from like HIV prevention

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 6>to like destroying a bunch of the apparatus that like

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 6>figures out what the weather is going to be and

0:25:21.000 --> 0:25:23.239
<v Speaker 6>tells you when storms are coming. Yeah, he has been

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:23.879
<v Speaker 6>fucking doing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, like Mia, the weather is woke. You can't you

0:25:26.800 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 4>can't forget the woke weather machines.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>I just had a meeting with the Southeast Alliance where

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<v Speaker 4>we're deciding the weather for the next few weeks. Fucking God,

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 4>make it less hot here. It's too fucking hot weather,

0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.160
<v Speaker 4>too hot. I know, well, we have to raise the temperature.

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<v Speaker 6>It's all.

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<v Speaker 4>It's all part of the data plan, large scale political plan.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, you get it, James, Yeah, full of the plan.

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<v Speaker 6>More he more riots, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay. It's also remembering that these two were very very

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.800
<v Speaker 6>close sort of like during this election cycle, right, Trump

0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:01.520
<v Speaker 6>was just straight up going for Buddy, was just I mean,

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.040
<v Speaker 6>he's just just like straight up in Philadelphia, like paying

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 6>people to vote through these like raffles. Elon Elon, Yeah,

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.200
<v Speaker 6>Elon was just like, yeah, straight up doing these right,

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:12.320
<v Speaker 6>Trump just.

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<v Speaker 4>Like did a tesla ad.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, it's like he just did a tesla ad.

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<v Speaker 4>They first buddy has gotta gotta have each other's backs,

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 4>you know.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 3>Never say that again.

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<v Speaker 6>So there had started to be a little bit of

0:26:25.960 --> 0:26:29.719
<v Speaker 6>tension between them, like as the tariff sort of mounted,

0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:31.879
<v Speaker 6>because the tariffs are you know, not good for Elon.

0:26:32.359 --> 0:26:33.880
<v Speaker 6>I think things kind of came to a head when

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 6>Elon tried to buy the Wisconsin Supreme Court election and

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.720
<v Speaker 6>just got his ass kicked harder than anyone I've ever

0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 6>seen get just absolutely thumped.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is where the policy wonk sector of the

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.960
<v Speaker 4>right was starting to like side eye Elon and question

0:26:49.119 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 4>his like yeah, yeah, invincibility, right, this this this this

0:26:53.000 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 4>guy that can come in and like save the Republican Party,

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 4>can secure every future election. That's where that I like

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.480
<v Speaker 4>view of Elon started to really get called into question.

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 4>Maybe this guy is kind of just a one hit wonder.

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And and and you can also look at a

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 6>lot of the stuff that was sort of happening here

0:27:07.560 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 6>in terms of like she is staggeringly unpopular, right, everyone

0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.119
<v Speaker 6>fucking hates him, and like the Democratic Party did a

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 6>really bad job of this. But like just like the

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 6>party's base and the Tesla protests were very effective and

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:26.719
<v Speaker 6>like negative, yea polarizing opinion of him. Negative, people really

0:27:26.760 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 6>really dislike him.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 4>Like worldwide, Yeah, everyone hates it.

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:34.640
<v Speaker 7>She cost right wing parties elections and countries that like, yeah,

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 7>he's never been taggering staggering like she she may have

0:27:39.840 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 7>accidentally saved Germany from fascism for like a decade. Why,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.520
<v Speaker 7>it's very funny, you know, critical support to the to

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 7>the fascist carmaker who saves Germany from fascist Yeah yeah.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 6>And then so okay, so we've we've been coming up

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<v Speaker 6>to like the end of his appointment as like a

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<v Speaker 6>special what the fuck was the name of the term

0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 6>special government employeecial government employee? Oh it was special. I

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 6>was gonna say that. Then I was like, it can't

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.840
<v Speaker 6>be called special government employee.

0:28:03.880 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 4>We call it a sidge Ski ski Gay. Well, James,

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 4>you can't say that, No, no, you can't.

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:12.639
<v Speaker 3>I've been canceled.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.680
<v Speaker 6>But there was always a question of like what exactly

0:28:14.720 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 6>his role is going to be going forward once his

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:20.280
<v Speaker 6>time as a special government employee like ran out, Yeah,

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 6>but then he leaves with Steven Miller's.

0:28:22.640 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 8>Wife, so as we reported in previous episodes, But the

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<v Speaker 8>final break came over the weekend over the.

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<v Speaker 4>Budget, big beautiful budget, and Elon.

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<v Speaker 6>Has been pissed off at this budget for like a while,

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<v Speaker 6>and over the weekend he finally starts straight up doing

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:45.320
<v Speaker 6>like kill the budget posting and telling people to like

0:28:45.360 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 6>call their senators to kill the budget instead of just

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 6>saying it's bad. And this is I think actually an

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 6>important thing to note here.

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 4>Like like actively campaigning against the budget bill and yeah yeah,

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 4>which is essentially Trump's like core policy at this point.

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like the way to the way to push through

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:02.880
<v Speaker 4>a whole bunch of the stuff that he can't just

0:29:03.040 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 4>do himself as president. Yep, is just trojanhorse through this

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 4>budget bill.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah. And and and then this gets too, I

0:29:10.000 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 6>think something that's like a kind of important split in

0:29:12.400 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 6>the Republican Party right now about this budget, which is

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.080
<v Speaker 6>that like Musk is a is a budget deficit true believer, right,

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 6>Like yes, he and his guls are trying to destroy

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 6>the federal government because like ideologically they don't think it

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 6>should really exist except for like as a tool to

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 6>hand the money, as a tool to like shoot people

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 6>who they don't like but he is part of this

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<v Speaker 6>caudra of tech people. And this is very very common

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:35.120
<v Speaker 6>in these tech circles. And you see that in some

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 6>finance circles of these people who believe that the US

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.200
<v Speaker 6>is about to like enter like the super Great depression

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 6>because the amount of the GDP being spent on debt

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 6>payments is too high, and so they think if they

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 6>don't like stop this right now, And this is partially

0:29:50.200 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 6>why they are trying to like crash the economy, because

0:29:52.880 --> 0:29:54.760
<v Speaker 6>they thought that if you crash the economy and he

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 6>did all this terrift stuff or like whatever it would

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.200
<v Speaker 6>it would decrease the cost of of US borrowing. Now

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 6>that didn't happen, right, The interest rates of the bond

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 6>shot up because everyone was like, holy fuck, these like

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.600
<v Speaker 6>absolute maniacs aren't gonna pay their debt. So you know,

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.080
<v Speaker 6>none of the shit is working. But they are like

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 6>true believers on this, yeah right, And this is again

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 6>this is very very very common in tech circles. Like

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 6>these people who like are are really like, oh God,

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 6>the US is gonna die unless we like yeah, like

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 6>unless we start just like destroying the national debt.

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 4>And the whole doge idea is built around like Terminal

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 4>Tech Brain, and it's it's trying to apply the logic

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 4>of these like startups that are kind of scams, but

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 4>trying to apply the logic of startups to an entire government.

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:42.479
<v Speaker 4>And there was an interview INPR this week where they

0:30:42.520 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 4>talked to a DOGE employee.

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, he has an ex DOGE employee.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:50.239
<v Speaker 4>And NPR asked about how much fraud and abuse they

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 4>were actually able to find, and he said, quote, I

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:56.320
<v Speaker 4>did not find the federal government to be rife with waste,

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 4>fraud and abuse. I was expecting some more easy wins.

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.959
<v Speaker 4>I was hoping for opportunity to cut waste, fraud and abuse.

0:31:02.120 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 4>And I do believe that there is a lot of waste.

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 4>There's minimal amounts of fraud and abuse to me feels

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 4>relatively non existent. And the reason is, I think we

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 4>have a bias as people coming from the tech industry

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 4>where we worked at companies you know, such as Google, Facebook,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.320
<v Speaker 4>These companies that have plenty of money, are funded by

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 4>investors and have lots of people kind of sitting around

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>and doing nothing on growth. So his idea that the

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 4>government must be full of like fraud and abuse is

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 4>because that's just how tech companies work, and he assumed

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 4>that the government works the same as a tech company. Yeah,

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 4>and I think Elon have uwsed this the exact same way.

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 4>That's why he was doing his like Twitter takeover stuff

0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 4>to the government, is he believed that's how it actually functions,

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't. That's not really how the federal bureaucracy functions.

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Like like these people have just like eaten the fucking

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 4>kool aid, right, Like none of the Republicans actually believed that,

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 4>like the US like economy functions like a pocketbook, Like

0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:55.760
<v Speaker 4>none of them believe that you're because it's not true, right,

0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Like you don't print your own money, so of course

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 4>the US government doesn't find some like pocketbook. But like,

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.320
<v Speaker 4>this is the generation of people where like the people

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:06.800
<v Speaker 4>who are just so absolutely pilled on the ideology have

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:07.400
<v Speaker 4>taken over.

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.600
<v Speaker 6>But on the other hand, there is Trump, and Trump

0:32:10.600 --> 0:32:12.880
<v Speaker 6>doesn't give off fuck about any of this, right, Like

0:32:13.200 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 6>the faction that Trump here is representing is the faction

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.719
<v Speaker 6>of capitalists who just wants tax cuts. You don't give

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 6>off fuck about like all of this weird tech brain stuff.

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 6>Like they elected Trump with the mandate of handing them

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 6>trillions of dollars in these formula tax cuts, and that's

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 6>all they care about. And we're getting a giant conflict

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 6>between them because as much as Trump has just sort

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 6>of been like lying about the budget numbers or whatever

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 6>the fuck, if you're one of these actual budget lock people,

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 6>you can just look at the budget and go, this

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 6>is going to increase the debt by like two trillion

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 6>dollars or whatever the fuck, right, And it's revealed a

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 6>sort of pre existing source of tension inside of the

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 6>base between the sort of tech people and a lot

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 6>of the rest of sectors are capital which aren't as

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 6>ideologically pilled. So let's get into all of the actual

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 6>shit because it's very funny. So Business Insider put together

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.880
<v Speaker 6>a really good minute by minute timeline if you want

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 6>to do that. I'm not going through this shit minute

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<v Speaker 6>by minute.

0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:07.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna go through minute by minute. I am.

0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:10.880
<v Speaker 4>I am going to go through tweet by tweet tweet

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>because we have to talk about the tweets. The first

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:18.239
<v Speaker 4>time I've ever really wanted to say that. Yeah, the

0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.479
<v Speaker 4>first big tweet, and this was you know, amongst Elon

0:33:21.640 --> 0:33:24.320
<v Speaker 4>crashing out about the budget bill and talking about how

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 4>he's going to cancel certain SpaceX SpaceX projects. But the

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 4>first big tweet from Elon was time to drop the

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 4>really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in the

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 4>Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 4>been made public. Have a nice day, Donald J.

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 3>Trump.

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 4>Mark this place. In the future, the truth will come out.

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 4>So this is this is the really big one, as

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:48.960
<v Speaker 4>Elon says, the really big Bob.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually think this, in the long run could be

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:57.000
<v Speaker 6>one of the most important aspects of this entire fight.

0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Because the right is incredibly conspiracy brains. They've all been

0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:04.640
<v Speaker 6>like hyped up on this, like Epstein pill shit and

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 6>like like specifically on like the Trump's gonna release Epstein

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 6>files and show all the Democrats right, But they've always

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 6>had like the psychological block about talking about the fact

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 6>that like Trump and Epstein are the most connected motherfuckers

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.000
<v Speaker 6>anyone's ever been. I'm gonna read this. There's a very

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 6>famous quote from a New York magazine article that's like

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:26.440
<v Speaker 6>Trump talking to a bunch of people at like a meeting. Quote.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:29.760
<v Speaker 6>I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy, Trump booms

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 6>from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun. To be

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 6>with it. Has even said that he likes beautiful women

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 6>as much as I do, and many of them are

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 6>on the younger side, no doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys

0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 6>his social life. So like he knew, right he was

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 6>transmitting for ages, Yeah, some two and two, Like he's

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:48.279
<v Speaker 6>he's on Epstein's fucking.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Plain like he is, like everyone knows this, right, like

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 4>everyone except everyone knows this right, everyone except for like

0:34:54.160 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 4>the weirdo QAnon, right, yeah, understands this. And some of

0:34:57.960 --> 0:35:00.160
<v Speaker 4>the young people try to justify this as being like, no,

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 4>Trump was like, you know, a deep mold, a deep

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 4>plant who got in close with with Epstein so that

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 4>we could eventually round up and arrest all the Democrat pedophiles. Right,

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 4>That's what they try to justify it. But now that

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.080
<v Speaker 4>that sort of like specific QAnon logic doesn't really exist

0:35:14.120 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 4>as much on the right anymore. Yeah, now people just

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 4>like memory hole, especially the right, They just memory hole

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 4>that like Trump and Epstein were best buddies.

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and like and and this is the thing, it's

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 6>been impossible we'll talk about on the right, you just

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 6>can't do it, right. Yeah, And suddenly Elon Musk, who

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 6>is a guy who like is capable of shifting what

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 6>right wing discourse is. Its suddenly like, yeah, this guy's

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 6>a pedophile. I want to read this. This, this post

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 6>that Trump made has response to this, right I missed

0:35:43.840 --> 0:35:46.080
<v Speaker 6>this when this happens. I've only seen this in the

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:51.320
<v Speaker 6>business inside of reporting, so on truth social Trump's response

0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:54.919
<v Speaker 6>to this was to post it or to truth the truth.

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:55.479
<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

0:35:57.080 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 6>Of David Shown, who tweeted this quote. I was hired

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 6>to lead Jeffrey Fstein's defense as his criminal lawyer nine

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 6>days before he died. He sought my advice for months

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 6>before that. I can authoritatively, unequivocally and definitively say he

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 6>has no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him.

0:36:17.320 --> 0:36:18.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that sounds legit.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 6>This is one of the most unhinged posts I have

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 6>ever seen. This genuinely, this is this is not a joke.

0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 6>If you if you are a fucking poster and you

0:36:29.239 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 6>are like, what can my contribution to like the future

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 6>of democracy be? You need to push this shit into

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:40.320
<v Speaker 6>the unhinged like fucking like the depths of like fucking

0:36:40.320 --> 0:36:43.080
<v Speaker 6>eight chan right like into into like the fucking breeding

0:36:43.160 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 6>layers of the most unhinged reutling spaces in the world.

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 6>You need to be going in and just injecting this

0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 6>shit straight into their fucking brains. You you need to

0:36:51.880 --> 0:36:54.839
<v Speaker 6>be like like just like just just hyping them up

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 6>on the most unhinged conspiracies about Trump being like a

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 6>fucking like being a fucking Epstein guy, because this is

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:08.720
<v Speaker 6>completely unhinged, Like, what do you mean. His defense lawyer,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.520
<v Speaker 6>who was hired nine days before he died, is supposed

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:16.720
<v Speaker 6>to have specifically asked him about Trump and Trump's response

0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 6>to being called a pedophile as you go to this

0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 6>guy fucking inject that shit into right wing discourse. We

0:37:22.200 --> 0:37:24.360
<v Speaker 6>know four chan does this the leftist discourse all the

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 6>time and injects like the worst discourses of all time.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 6>Fucking do it to them.

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 4>It is odd how this was really the first thing

0:37:30.560 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 4>that breaks through this block on the right. You had

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 4>to You had Alex Jones like freaking out on Twitter

0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 4>being quote, God help us.

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 3>All, Kanye, Oh yay.

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.799
<v Speaker 4>Kanye was freaking out, Turn was crashing out on the timeline.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 4>It was really bizarre. Trump's immediate response was saying, quote,

0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.239
<v Speaker 4>have done so months ago, this is one of the

0:37:53.239 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 4>greatest bills ever presented to Congress, and then goes on

0:37:56.080 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 4>to talk about how great the bill is. It's wild.

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:05.480
<v Speaker 4>You had I Miles Chong tweeting about versus the president

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:07.839
<v Speaker 4>who will win My money is on Elon Trump should

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 4>be impeached and JD. Van should replace him with Elon

0:38:10.680 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Musk boosting this claim saying yes, yeah.

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:19.600
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good. It says pretty funny.

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Something that's extremely indicative of the current cultural moment that

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.960
<v Speaker 4>we are at is during this spat, when when things

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:32.919
<v Speaker 4>really broke out on Twitter and truth social during during

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 4>this spat, both the Vice President of the United States

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 4>and the director of the FBI were on two separate

0:38:38.560 --> 0:38:45.920
<v Speaker 4>podcasts and got to live react to this very funny Unfortunately,

0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.640
<v Speaker 4>I am going to play the clip. I will start

0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 4>with JD. Vance reacting live on a podcast by someone

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 4>named THEO Vaughn.

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 6>Here.

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 9>Here's here's my basic reaction to like all this stuff

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 9>is luck. First of all, like absolutely not. Donald Trump

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 9>didn't do anything wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. Like there's the

0:39:07.239 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 9>guy is whatever the Democrats and the media says about him,

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 9>that's totally bs. Here here's my basic my basic read

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.360
<v Speaker 9>on it. First of all, I'm the vice President's the

0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:18.279
<v Speaker 9>President Trump. My loyalties are always going to be with

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 9>the President. And I think that Elon, he's an incredible entrepreneur.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 9>He's actually done I think does was really good. This

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.320
<v Speaker 9>sort of effort to root out waste fraud abuse in

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.919
<v Speaker 9>our country is really good. And and and look, man,

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 9>I'm always going to be loyal to the President, and

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 9>I hope that eventually Elon kind of comes back into

0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.359
<v Speaker 9>the fold. Maybe that's not possible now because he's gone,

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 9>so nuclear hope it is.

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:43.640
<v Speaker 4>Do you know why?

0:39:43.840 --> 0:39:48.680
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean so, look, I think number one, Elon's

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.880
<v Speaker 9>new to politics, right, So part of it is this

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 9>guy got into politics and it's has suffered a lot

0:39:54.920 --> 0:39:58.239
<v Speaker 9>for it. But I mean, I and I get the

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:00.439
<v Speaker 9>frustration there, and I get the frustration that me. Look,

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 9>Congress got the spending bill, but the main purpose of

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 9>the bill is not actually spending or cutting spending, though

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 9>it does cut a lot of spending. The main purpose

0:40:08.640 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 9>of the bill is to prevent the biggest tax increase.

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 9>But I understand, like it's a good bill, it's not

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.640
<v Speaker 9>a perfect bill. Like the process in DC if you're

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:17.960
<v Speaker 9>a business leader, you probably get frustrated with that process

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:20.879
<v Speaker 9>because it's more you know, bureaucratic, it's more slow moving.

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:25.400
<v Speaker 9>So I think there's just some frustrations there. But I really, man,

0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 9>I think it's a huge mistake for him to go

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 9>after the president like that, and I think that if

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 9>he and the president are in some blood feud, most importantly,

0:40:34.239 --> 0:40:35.920
<v Speaker 9>it's going to be bad for the country. But I

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 9>think it's going to be I don't think it's going

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 9>to be good for Elon either.

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:43.319
<v Speaker 4>So that's jd Vance's reaction to this. He eventually got

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 4>put onto like damage control. We'll talk about that in

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 4>a sec. What is more interesting to me is cash

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Ptel's reaction because Patel has been taking fire from the

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 4>right for being a little bit soft on the promise

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 4>of releasing the full Epstein files, trying to downplay the

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 4>tent at the files and say there's really nothing in

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:05.360
<v Speaker 4>there that's super notable, and this has gotten him in

0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 4>trouble because him and people like Dan Bongino have for

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 4>years made a living out of talking about how the

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 4>Epstein files is going to, you know, ruin the Democratic Party.

0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 4>They have they have all of this evidence all this footage,

0:41:17.200 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 4>and now that these guys are in power, they're simply

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 4>not talking about this issue. And this has got some

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:25.760
<v Speaker 4>of the qan On right upset and cash Footel's reaction

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:30.600
<v Speaker 4>to this is is frankly baffling. I'm not participating in

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 4>that conversation.

0:41:32.840 --> 0:41:35.920
<v Speaker 6>Have a nice day, DD so much takets fall away.

0:41:35.760 --> 0:41:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Are going back and forth about different things.

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 6>And yeah, he said he was disappointing Elon. Yeah, I

0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 6>want to leave Jesus Christ. That's a crazy thing to say.

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 6>How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:48.440
<v Speaker 6>is in the Epstein files or does he have access

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:48.880
<v Speaker 6>to them?

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how he would, But I'm just staying

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>out of the Trump Elon thing.

0:41:53.120 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 3>That's way outside of my life. I know my lane,

0:41:56.880 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 3>and that.

0:41:57.120 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 4>Ain't What do you mean? This isn't your lane. You're

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 4>the director of the FBI, you are in charge of

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 4>the Epstein files. This specifically is your lane. This, this

0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:11.440
<v Speaker 4>one thing is actually your lane. It's unhinged. Oh my god.

0:42:11.760 --> 0:42:13.720
<v Speaker 3>His big thing now is yes to wear a hunting

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 3>camera all the time. I guess it's his new lane.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:18.160
<v Speaker 4>So after the heat of this started to die down,

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:20.400
<v Speaker 4>you started to get more of the right try to,

0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:24.239
<v Speaker 4>I guess, soothe the tension. A lot of a lot

0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:27.360
<v Speaker 4>of people trying to trying to talk about coming together.

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 4>You had right wing commentators trying to frame this as

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 4>two alpha males beefing right this this is this is

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 4>just how you just how alpha male's.

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.200
<v Speaker 3>Beef we got. We've got to quote some of these because.

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:42.919
<v Speaker 4>Jack Pasovic famously said, some of y'all can't handle two

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 4>high agency males going at it, and it really shows

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 4>this is direct communication, fallow centric versus indirect communication. Guy nocentric,

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:56.839
<v Speaker 4>I understand you aren't used to it. Wonderful stuff from

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.920
<v Speaker 4>Pasovic as usual. Yeah, you also had our friends at

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 4>the New Norm posting videos about trying to solve this

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.120
<v Speaker 4>dispute through a dancing competition. Roll the clip.

0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:13.240
<v Speaker 6>Can't we all just get along?

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>We've got to cut you to say.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.840
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I do find it odd that a lot of

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 4>people's innate reaction after the heat died down was even

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:28.920
<v Speaker 4>if Elon Musk is semi credibly accusing the president of

0:43:28.920 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 4>being a pedophile. Can't we just all get along together?

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.640
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why we can't just get along? This

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:39.240
<v Speaker 4>is this is hurting the country, and Elon's like remark

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 4>about Trump being in the files is in and of

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 4>itself just kind of baffling from Elon's perspective, because he

0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 4>was bragging in tweets about how he is responsible for

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Trump being elected, and Trump was then having to respond

0:43:51.480 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 4>to that by claiming that they would have won the

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:56.919
<v Speaker 4>election without Elon, but Elon was saying that without him,

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:59.799
<v Speaker 4>Trump would have lost the election right after he called

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:03.200
<v Speaker 4>him a pedophile, which is super interesting because it's essentially

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 4>Musk saying, I'm fine with making sure a pedophile gets

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.879
<v Speaker 4>elected president, but I draw the line at a bad

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 4>spending bill. Yeah, yeah, that's that's really what is too

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 4>much for him. The implication is that if he didn't

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 4>get essentially shafted from the White House, he just would

0:44:18.280 --> 0:44:20.239
<v Speaker 4>have kept this a secret. And he's like okay with

0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 4>working with Trump otherwise except for the bad bill, and

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 4>ye maybe he's maybe he's butt heard about Trump threatening

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 4>to terminate his governmental subsidies and contracts, but like, come on, Elons,

0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:32.520
<v Speaker 4>this is crazy.

0:44:33.280 --> 0:44:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, not the most well considered.

0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:37.920
<v Speaker 5>It is fantastic that the richest man in the world

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:41.440
<v Speaker 5>is addicted to posting, because we get some real we

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:43.040
<v Speaker 5>get some real banging posters.

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 4>Poster's madness. It never never fails.

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:48.879
<v Speaker 6>I gotta say though, Trump's posting response terrible. This guy

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.799
<v Speaker 6>has washed There's nothing there. He's fucking gone mentally like

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 6>he could have fucking get Like even twenty twenty, Trump

0:44:54.320 --> 0:44:56.120
<v Speaker 6>just destroys him in one tweet like none of this

0:44:56.239 --> 0:44:59.319
<v Speaker 6>is He's there's nothing left there. He's a shell. Now.

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 4>They have now been making attempts to fold the team

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 4>back together. It was reported recently that actually on Friday night,

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 4>which was the day after this spat on unfolded on Twitter,

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:13.440
<v Speaker 4>but a Friday night jd Vance and Whiteouse chief of

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:16.800
<v Speaker 4>staff Susie Willis had a call with Elon to de

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:20.719
<v Speaker 4>escalate the conflict. Eventually, Elon started deleting some of his

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 4>more inflammatory tweets about the president coward and has now

0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:30.040
<v Speaker 4>posted quote, I regret some of my posts about President

0:45:30.080 --> 0:45:32.640
<v Speaker 4>Trump last week. They went too far.

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:36.240
<v Speaker 3>I said the thing that wasn't supposed to say.

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 4>So he got us stern talking to by jd Vance,

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:43.880
<v Speaker 4>who is kind of caught in between Trump and Musk

0:45:44.000 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 4>here but has stated that his loyalties will will always

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.800
<v Speaker 4>lie with the President. So yeah, that is the current

0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:53.279
<v Speaker 4>state of the Musk and Trump fallout, it will not

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:55.840
<v Speaker 4>be able to go back to how it was, but

0:45:56.040 --> 0:45:59.799
<v Speaker 4>they might try to play nice again. Yep, I think

0:46:00.040 --> 0:46:02.680
<v Speaker 4>that does it for us. Here at it could Happen Here,

0:46:03.560 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 4>we reported the news.

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<v Speaker 3>We reported the news.

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