1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: As media. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: To live and die in La. Hey, this is not 3 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: a game. It is smoke bomb flash. That is the 4 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: data Feds came. That was the data Feds came. That 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: was the data feeds. Living die in La Why nothing 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: will be the same. It's smoke bomb flash. That was 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: the data Feds came. That was the data Feds came. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 2: That was the data feeds and living dying in La. 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: I ain't a song we sang. It's the gang banging traders. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 2: We was ready when it came for us. Monkey Monkey, 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: piggy piggy, Immigration, coward ball happening off the back of 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: black bands out in Paramount, black bagging, family, kidnapping, broad 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: daylight stare with us, staring us to fight back, right. 14 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 2: He trying to make a shoe sides Black Love, Brown 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Pride won't play when it's time to ride for West Side, 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 2: East Sides. He's trying to send Americans the forward prisons. 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: You don't think you'll try to put black bodies inside 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: a game. Time, Homie, gonna meet us on that LaMeta. 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: I ain't scared of nail La Migra. We knew the 20 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: trail We're being here, Gonna keep it peace, bro. They 21 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: gonna try to bat us it. It's the datus. But wait, 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: bro take it to their face, Brody masking in. 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 3: It's paper thing. 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: We work for the border. We just following with all 25 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 2: this with fear. Wivertakes them matches a facade. We exercise 26 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 2: our rights, they said National Guard, and one thinks for certain, 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: burned down the regime when the President chooses to send 28 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 2: the marine and die in La. Hey, this is not 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: a game. It is smoke bomb flash. That was the 30 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: data FEDS came. That was the data Feds came. That 31 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 2: was the data feds. You live in die in la Why, 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 2: nothing will be the same. It's smoke bomb flash. That 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: was the data Feds came. That was the data Feds came. 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: That was the data Feds came. 35 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 4: This is it could happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly 36 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, 37 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 4: and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis today, 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: joined by Mia Wang and James Stout. This episode, we 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 4: are covering the week of June four to June eleventh. 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: Let's start James with an update on the protests happening 41 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 4: in la In response to mass ice raids in the 42 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 4: Los Angeles area and also around the country. 43 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've been in LA. I was up covering it. 44 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 5: I'm back home now. It's on Wednesday. We did a 45 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 5: whole episode about this people can listen to. In terms 46 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 5: of update, I think things were a little bit smaller tonight. 47 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: There were a large number of detentions. 48 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 4: Made late tonight. 49 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 3: You mean last night, Tuesday night? 50 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: Tuesday night, okay. 51 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 52 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 5: To summarize, right, the first two nights saw the city. 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: Caught off guard. 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, the weekend was pretty spicy. 55 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, it got pretty well that there. A couple of 56 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 5: cop cars got destroyed. I think some Weimos made the 57 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 5: ultimate sacrifice our rip Weimo yep oh. I saw them 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 5: trucking the Weimos out and there was not much Weimo left, 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 5: Like it was the remains of the waim passed me, 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 5: gone but not forgotten. So by Monday morning, they had 61 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 5: flooded Los Angeles with police. I saw police from LAPD, 62 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: LA SD, I saw police from fps DHS, National Guard, 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 5: California Highway patrols play it's like Pokemon for cops up there, 64 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: and that resulted in them splitting up protesters cattling and 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 5: detaining people on Monday night, and they made extremely liberal 66 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: use of impact munitions, chemical ritans, etc. Batterday Sunday, Monday Tuesday, 67 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 5: thousands of impact munitions that you can find kissings all 68 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: over DTLA if you just go walk around. I saw 69 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 5: a lot of like people had tagged up a lot 70 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: of buildings in DTLA. But from what I've seen, I 71 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 5: don't know. We'll see, Right, It's also of the week, 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 5: so maybe things will get bigger again over the weekend. 73 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 74 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: I things can get less combative during the week because 75 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 4: people are busy with work and keeping themselves like fed 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: and had housed, and then on the weekend things can 77 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: sometimes open back up again. 78 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. And also it's worth it's worth noting how these 79 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 6: how these specific protests are flaring up, which is that 80 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 6: like these ones are flaring up when Ice like drags 81 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 6: people out of a place. 82 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is directly in response to ICE kidnapping their. 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 6: Names, right, And so you know, the next time ICE 84 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 6: does a bunch of kidnappings of people, there's a chance 85 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 6: to do it will pop off again because people are 86 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 6: being like, holy shit, don't take my neighbor away. 87 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the LA protests are already happening in a sequence. 88 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 4: Right We had stuff happening in San Diego, We then 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 4: had stuff in Minneapolis, We then had stuff in Chicago. 90 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: We then had the really big flare of which was LA. 91 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,559 Speaker 4: And I think what's interesting right now is that instead 92 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 4: of having just like nationwide riots like there was in 93 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, this is more like a sequence that actually 94 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 4: directly follows the actions of ICE. And in some ways, 95 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: I think this can be harder to combat. If every 96 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 4: city has the capacity to do what LA has done 97 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 4: in response to the actions of ICE, that follow the 98 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 4: actions of ICE, that could be harder to prepare for 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 4: than just the federal government realizing that we have to 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: do massive counter insurgency everywhere, all at the same time, 101 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: like what happened in twenty twenty. If instead this is 102 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 4: a rolling sequence of protests that happened directly in response 103 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: to ICE actions, any city could be next. Instead of 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 4: just trying to prepare for nationwide riots, they have to 105 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 4: be this more like mobile fluid force. They have to 106 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 4: respond to different outbursts that happen in different cities at 107 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 4: different times. And I think the other advantage that this 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 4: model has is that the actual protesters themselves can also 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: iterate on tactics. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel 110 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 4: every time, you can take what happened in a previous city, 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 4: like a week ago, two weeks ago, and iterate on that. 112 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 4: Iterate on what was unsuccessfully, what captured attention, and what 113 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: was able to catch the cops off guard, minimizing mass arrests. 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of the state response, just in case 115 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 5: people have missed it, right, two thousand National Guard troops, 116 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 5: seven hundred United States Marines. The Marines came from twenty 117 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: nine Palms. I know the Core has like an urban 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 5: warfare school, or at least had one there in twenty 119 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 5: nine pounds. Obviously, Camp Pendleton is a bigger base. Well, 120 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 5: I see, it might not be geograph they're both huge 121 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 5: and closer to LA, but they sent them from twenty 122 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: nine Palms instead. 123 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: I didn't see any Marines. 124 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 5: They're just supposed to be protecting federal assets and not 125 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: supposed to be out there like straight up policing. Obviously, 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 5: that's you know, unconstitutional. One can make a case it's 127 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 5: unconstitutional to be deploying them at all in this fashion. 128 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: There are some on the streets now National Guard is 129 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 5: actually making arrests on the street. Marines have not as 130 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: of Wednesday, but some of the Marines have been deployed. 131 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 5: There's upwards of seven hundred who are like in the 132 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 5: process of being deployed at LA streets right now, out 133 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,799 Speaker 5: of two thousand available troops, some of which are actually 134 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 5: still receiving training on standard rules of force. So these 135 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,559 Speaker 5: people do not have necessarily like extensive training on police 136 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: crowd control, but are currently brushing up on crowd control tactics. Yeah, 137 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 5: what I saw from National Guard was like it seemed 138 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 5: to be by rank, although I'm not certain of that 139 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 5: guy with with shields and sticks right, just straight up 140 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 5: poles as opposed to like truncheons with like a T 141 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: shape or an L shape or whatever. And then probably 142 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 5: one in every five or six had an M four 143 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 5: with a magazine. That's a gun for people who aren't familiar, 144 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: it's in AAR fifteen and that's obviously live ammunition. So 145 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 5: like they didn't seem to have any access to like 146 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: less lethals or they didn't bring them if they did that, 147 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 5: I don't know about the Marine. And obviously we saw 148 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 5: like police using less lethals and then LASD also had 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 5: some cops with M fours amongst their formations. 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: And this is just about to like really expand outside 151 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 4: of LA and California admidst anti ICE protests across Texas. 152 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: Governor Greg Abbott just deployed the Texas National Guard, and 153 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 4: on Tuesday night, I believe MSNBC broke the story that 154 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 4: ICE is about to send special Response team quote unquote 155 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 4: tactical units to five Democrat controlled areas, namely in New 156 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: York City, Seattle, Chicago, Philadelphia, and northern Virginia. 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, is like a swat team if you're not familiar. 158 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: Like there was a DHSSRT that ended up responding in too, 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 5: that South Park protest in San Diego that we mentioned 160 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: last week or the week before. 161 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: As of Wednesday, there's already been protests this week and 162 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: over half US states. This will certainly continue throughout the weekend. 163 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: At least for LA. On Tuesday night, the mayor announced 164 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: an eight pm curfew in downtown Los Angeles. That were 165 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 4: mass arrests Tuesday night, hundreds of people. I think the 166 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: other advantage that this kind of rolling sequence model that 167 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 4: we've seen with like San Diego, Minneapolis, Chicago, LA is 168 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: that not only does it give people time to like 169 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 4: iterate on tactics, it also gives people a break. If 170 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: anyone who survived twenty twenty, like you know how how 171 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 4: intense burnout can be from just doing that all the time. Yeah, 172 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 4: and having the built in brakes where you can like 173 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: recover physically and mentally while iterating on tactics, that could 174 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: be interesting to see. 175 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 6: I think also this one thing we should notice about this, 176 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 6: which is that like there's a very clear actual thing 177 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 6: you're trying to do here, which is stop them from 178 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 6: taking these people. And even if you fail to immediately 179 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 6: take someone, they stop them taking someone in the moment. 180 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 6: Every single like second they're having to do dealing with 181 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 6: this shit means that they're not doing it. Yeah, so 182 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 6: you're you're degrading their capacity. Yeah, exactly. The time is 183 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 6: like the most valuable asset year. Yeah. And and like 184 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 6: obviously again like the larger goals you want to like expel, 185 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 6: Like you know, like one of the most common things 186 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 6: I'm hearing from people is just like ice out of 187 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 6: the city, right, Like we don't want them to be 188 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 6: doing these raids, but every every time they're forced to 189 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 6: like actually face resistance when they're doing the raid makes 190 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 6: it much much harder for them to do what they 191 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 6: have to start planning for there to be resistance to 192 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 6: the rage, which slows them down. And yeah, everything you 193 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 6: could do to put fucking wrenches into the gears until 194 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 6: the machine breaks is good. And there's a there's a 195 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 6: very clear path from A to B, two C in 196 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 6: a way that they're kind of aren't. Like. It doesn't 197 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 6: rely on politicians doing stuff. It just relies on us 198 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 6: stopping them. 199 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah doing stuff. 200 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 5: The city of Glendale did cancel its detention contract with ICE, right, 201 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: so they won't be detaining people there. So like a 202 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 5: little bit of progress there. And Gavin Newsom has said 203 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 5: some shit about the deployment of the National Guard and 204 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: California as far the court case, like Newsom has not 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 5: done everything in his power to stop that. 206 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 3: But it's Gavin Newsom. What do you expect? 207 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 5: I'll be back in the ela of things continue there. 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 5: But it's certainly the biggest protest we've seen this time 209 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,199 Speaker 5: around in the Trump administration. 210 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: All right, let's go and break and come back to 211 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: discuss more news. 212 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 5: We are back, and unlike people from twelve countries who 213 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 5: will not be coming back to the United States for 214 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 5: the foreseeable future because the Trump administration has announced. 215 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: A new travel ban. 216 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 5: The form of the travel ban is basically, anyone who 217 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 5: applies for a visa or is in the process of 218 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 5: applying for a visa currently, if they are from one 219 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 5: of these twelve countries is unable to obtain a visa 220 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: to the United States. Right the twelve countries, seven have 221 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: partial restrictions, and then the full ban is on Afghanistan, Myanmar, Chad, 222 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 5: the Republic of Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrere, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, 223 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: and Yemen. And then Borundi, Cuba, Laos, Sierra Leone, Togo, Turkmenistan, 224 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 5: and Venezuela have like a higher barrier right and some 225 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 5: visas are not available to them. 226 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: Is an interesting inclusion there, Yeah, it is. 227 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: They looked at two criteria. 228 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: E seems because Trump made an executive order at the 229 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: start of his presidency like looking to identify countries for 230 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 5: a travel ban. The two criteria they had were visa 231 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 5: over stay percentages and the quote unquote not having a 232 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 5: competent central authority to cooperate with vetting, right, So, like 233 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: you can't do a background check on someone if their 234 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 5: country doesn't have that facility. It's a claim, right. I 235 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 5: think they got vanmar On visa overst eight percentages. It's 236 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: worth noting, right that they use percentages and not raw 237 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 5: numbers for a reason, because, yeah, a certain percentage of 238 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 5: Burmese people may overstay their visa. I think it's twenty 239 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 5: seven point one percent. That amounts to five hundred and 240 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: forty three individuals. If we look at, for instance, France, 241 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 5: these are twenty twenty three numbers. About zero point six 242 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 5: percent of French people overstay their visa. That amounts to 243 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 5: nine one hundred and eighty two individuals. Right, So, like 244 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 5: a percentage is great, but if a big percentage of 245 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 5: a small thing is still a small thing. Yeah, this 246 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: is how they're attempting to justify it though in terms 247 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 5: of bulletproofing it through the courts. Obviously, they didn't have 248 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: the best luck with their travel ban in the first administration, 249 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 5: so using this tactic is one that they're hoping will 250 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 5: justify it. 251 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: Will it will stick the landing through the courts. 252 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 5: Should add that they have some exemptions right, existing visa 253 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 5: holders who are currently within the United States can remain 254 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 5: in the United States. 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: Right. 256 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 5: In practice, lots of these countries only get single entry visas, 257 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 5: so it might be hard for them to leave and 258 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 5: come back. But it's sometimes I've heard it reported that 259 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 5: all these people, like people from these countries can no 260 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 5: longer come to the United States, will be in the 261 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 5: United States, and that's not true. There are exemptions for 262 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 5: people who are dual citizens. There are exemptions for adoptive children. 263 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: There are exemptions for ethnic and religious minorities in Iran. 264 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 5: There are exemptions for sports teams because the United States thing, well, 265 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: the United States is holding the World Cup and the Olympics, right, yeah, 266 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 5: so like it would be something of a fascical spectacle 267 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: if you know, nineteen countries were not represented. I mean, 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 5: the Olympic Games is something of a fascal spectacle to 269 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 5: begin with, one could argue, but yeah, they didn't want that, right, 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 5: they didn't want that like international spectacle. So a professional 271 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: athlete visa is hard to get at the best of times, 272 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 5: so that is a high bar, but those ones still 273 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: seem to be available. And then there's also exemptions for 274 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 5: SIV wrote special immigrant visas. These are people who have 275 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 5: worked closely with the United States. The vast bulk of 276 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 5: them will be Afghan people, people who worked as interpreters 277 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 5: or otherwise cooperated with the United States during the twenty 278 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 5: years the United States was at. 279 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: War in Afghanistan. 280 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 5: Again, I've seen that mis reported, including by people who 281 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: really should know better. But you know, I'm never not 282 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 5: disappointed in a lot of people's immigration coverage. This will 283 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 5: be challenging court, right, but I think they have gone 284 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 5: some way to trying to make this a bit more 285 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: bulletproof than they did before. And it is concerning that 286 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 5: they seem to have a better chance. Obviously pretty concerning, 287 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 5: especially for US, you know, with our extensive reboarding on 288 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 5: Burma or Mihanmar, that those people can't come here and 289 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: be safe. Yeah, that's a travel man in a nutshell, 290 00:14:59,480 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: I guess. 291 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 6: Also, I think it's worth noting so like this is 292 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 6: just an expanded version Well, I guess it's like a 293 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 6: little bit of differences, but it's basically an expanded version 294 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 6: of the Muslim band from his first term. 295 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, with some new countries, and I think maybe the 296 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 5: removal of some countries from previously. 297 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, And like it's worth noting that, like in Trump. 298 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 6: One like that immediately caused the airport protests, which were 299 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 6: like the first big protests of the administration that were 300 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: extremely effective until people like went home. And this time 301 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 6: it's basically not been a news story because we're so 302 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: far along that the protests have been about like ices 303 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 6: dragging our neighbors away, and yeah, I just think that's 304 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: fucking bad as shit. And also the airport protests, like, 305 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 6: we're really effective. 306 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: They some of the more effective protests in those years. Yeah, yeah, 307 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: I am yea. 308 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 5: I did see a flyer for an airport protest, but 309 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 5: I've seen no evidence of one's occurring. 310 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. I had heard that there was going to be 311 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 6: one on Monday, but that it just like didn't happen, 312 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 6: So I don't know what's going on with that. Yeah, 313 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 6: but that was a thing that was pretty effective, and 314 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 6: they also didn't eat the shirt of everyone for most 315 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 6: of it, which was nice. 316 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 317 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, well Mia, talking of beats, how about we dropped 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 5: some beats right now with this sick tariff song. 319 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: Great work, James, thank you, thank you, Rocking Jazz Rocket 320 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: Jazz Bot Sorry Rocket Jazz Rocking Jazz bo. 321 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 6: The Donald Trump has apparently, according to him, resolved that 322 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 6: the trade war with China. He's planning the negotiation one 323 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 6: he's claiming, he's. 324 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: Claiming victory, mission accomplished. Ye the claim that. 325 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 6: He's making out of the out of the London negotiations. 326 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 6: And I want to point out that I have not 327 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 6: heard anything from the Chinese side. It's possible there will 328 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 6: be soft from the Chinese side by the time this 329 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 6: episode comes out. It's possible this whole deal will have 330 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 6: collass by the time this comes out. It seems like 331 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 6: the deal is that US maintains tariffs at fifty five percent, 332 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 6: which is what they're at right now, China maintains ten 333 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 6: percent tariffs, and then China ensures US access to rare 334 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 6: earth metals, and then the US does Trump was talking 335 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 6: about the US not actually doing a crackdown on like 336 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 6: Chinese international students. So who knows what the fuck is 337 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 6: going to happen with any of that. That is the 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 6: reporting that's coming out right now. I don't know. Quite frankly, 339 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 6: I am skeptical this is going to hold. I again, like, 340 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if, like in two days 341 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 6: when this episode comes out of any of this is 342 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 6: going to be true because again, we have heard nothing 343 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 6: from the Chinese side. It has all been from Trump, 344 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 6: so who the fuck knows. But yeah, that's that. That is. 345 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 6: That is the late of tariff news. This is a 346 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 6: kind of short one. 347 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 4: That's that's what we've got. That's exciting. That's exciting that 348 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 4: we won. Trade is back. I can go back to 349 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 4: buying everything I owned from Timu, no problem. 350 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I give my usual disclaimer that fifty 351 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 6: percent tariff on China is like fucking ruinous the global economy, 352 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 6: et cetera, et cetera. I do genuinely hope that, like 353 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 6: the Chinese international students are getting cracked out on because 354 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 6: Jesus fucking Christ, those poor kids. All of these policies 355 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 6: are tied together in this sort of like unhinged like 356 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 6: American Nationalist Project etctera, et cetera. They're all connected. They 357 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 6: hate us all and yay, really really fun time to 358 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 6: be a Chinese trans woman in the US. 359 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 4: WHOA, Okay, it's also fun to enjoy the COVID vaccine 360 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 4: because we might not get it for much longer. I 361 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: guess I'll do a brief update on an episode I 362 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 4: did with Cave a few weeks ago. So RFK has 363 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 4: now dismissed the entirety of the ACIP, the CDC's Vaccine 364 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 4: Advisory Committee that has just been completely dissolved. This happened 365 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 4: on Tuesday. That was the big theory that Cave had 366 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: is that if that panel gets dissolved, that that was 367 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 4: kind of the last line of defense with like reasonable 368 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 4: people being in charge of COVID vaccine recommendations at the CDC. 369 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: And that has gone And just a few minutes ago, 370 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 4: RFK Junior announced the replacements. And i'd have not had 371 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 4: enough time to look into all these guys because this 372 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 4: was literally just thirty minutes ago, But at least half 373 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 4: of them are at the very least what would be 374 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: considered a COVID vaccine skeptic. Oh crazy cool, right wing 375 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 4: libertarian types, people who have been dismissed from their academic positions. Basically, 376 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: it's who you would expect RFK two to submit to 377 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 4: a vaccine advisory panel. The very least half are like cranks. 378 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 4: I will try to look into the rest of these 379 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 4: guys in the future. We should probably do a full 380 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 4: follow up episode eventually on the new panel. So not 381 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 4: looking good on the COVID vaccine front. 382 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 6: Yeah, we also have very bad news from the S 383 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 6: which instead of, like you know, I don't know, like 384 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 6: I know, crypto scams are supposed to be the SEC's thing, 385 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 6: but I feel like the FCC also should have fucking 386 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 6: things for crypto scams. But instead of instead of going 387 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 6: after the fucking crypto scams, what they're doing is they're 388 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 6: gonna hold like meetings basically with what is I'm assuming 389 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 6: is going to be a bunch of the most unhingedy 390 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 6: transgrifters and anti trans like packs, frauds, and violent bigots. 391 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 4: Notably not trans people. Yeah, yeah, they will not be included, 392 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 4: no for the statements. 393 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 6: No trans people, no trans people, No, no, no, no. They're looking 394 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 6: into ways to do like FCC investigations for like deceptive 395 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 6: marketing practices for any doctor and also parents for some reason, 396 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 6: which how the fuck is you're going after a parent 397 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 6: for defective marketing? What the fuck are you doing here? 398 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 6: But anyone who like gives a child's any kind of 399 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 6: trans healthcare. 400 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean, is it specifically trans healthcare or are they 401 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 4: trying to like specify like surgical procedures because I've seen 402 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: some like Mixtra on this. 403 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 6: It's unclear right now. The wording that I saw was 404 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 6: so ambiguous that I think it could be anything, but 405 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 6: I don't know. And this is I think one of 406 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 6: the things it's not clear that they know right now, 407 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 6: right like it's all just really really up in the air. 408 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 6: What the fuck this is going to turn into or 409 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 6: if this is even when he turned into anything, we 410 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 6: had that whole at the beginning of Pride, the FBI 411 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 6: was like, hey, you can report like doctors doing like 412 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 6: trans healthcare here too. Things. Yeah, and some of these 413 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 6: have not really turned into anything yet. 414 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 4: The anti wilk FBI soliciting tips for people providing trans healthcare. 415 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So like, I don't know, we'll put a 416 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 6: pin in that one to see if some fucking horrible 417 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 6: stuff happens out out of there. That's, you know, one 418 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 6: of the next giant anti trans things that they're doing, 419 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 6: as all of the anti immigrant stuff happens, as they 420 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 6: fucking make vaccines illegal. 421 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 4: Like it's so much of the trends DUFF specifically is 422 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 4: like just the chilling effect that it's trying to scare 423 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: people away from providing people with the health care that 424 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 4: they need to live faffillian lives and it's working. 425 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 6: Like there are there are lots of clinics that have 426 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 6: like fucking stopped and if you if you are one 427 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: of the people at these clinics, fuck you eat shit well. 428 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 4: And I think that is where people can apply pressure to. 429 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was gonna say, yeah, 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 6: it's like there have been protests. 431 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: You're not going to change the mind of the Trunk 432 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: administration on this topic at this point, but you can 433 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 4: apply pressure to people who are feeling like they're too 434 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: they're too scared to actually provide healthcare, and they can 435 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 4: be reminded that no, it is their duty to provide 436 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 4: people with health care. 437 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, and and people have successfully gotten clinics to start 438 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 6: to restart like trans healthcare for kids by just going 439 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 6: out and protesting. This is a This is also just 440 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 6: like if you're I don't know, you're in like a 441 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 6: blue city and you don't know immigrants, and you're like, 442 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: I want to do a protest, this is the thing 443 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 6: you can do. You can find there's one in Chicago 444 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 6: right now that I'm blanking on the name of where 445 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: there's there's a bunch of protests. Yeah, but like you 446 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 6: can find the clinics that are refusing to do this, 447 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 6: and you can go fucking protest them, and this can 448 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: and will work. 449 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 5: We've spoken on the show before to healthcare workers who 450 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 5: are like very dedicated to keeping the provision of gender 451 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 5: affirming care. So like, if you want to listen to more, 452 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 5: you can hear that. You can hear how folks are 453 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 5: organizing to retect that. 454 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, and all of those people are fucking heroes, even 455 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 6: if they probably won't be remembered as such for a 456 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 6: long time, but they are and keep doing it and 457 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 6: keep the fight up. 458 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: Let's go and break and then return to finish up 459 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: on an exciting piece of news. 460 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: Hooray, Okay, we are back. 461 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 4: So as usual, a massive, massive news dropped right after 462 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: we finished recording last week's Executives, and that is the 463 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 4: Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story got a lot more messy. 464 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 4: So this is what we're going to close on, possibly 465 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 4: one of our last Stinky Musk segments. 466 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 6: But I fucking know it, Jesus Christ. 467 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: We'll never forget you. 468 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: Eat on. 469 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 4: Oh uh, miyah. 470 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 6: Do you wanna do you wanna start us off here? Yeah, 471 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: let's let's start this off with Okay, I have been seeing. 472 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 6: This has kind of stopped now that Elon has kind 473 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 6: of like run crying back the Trump. But like, let's see, 474 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 6: there was a there was a moment where a lot 475 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 6: of the like like Matt Iglacias, like a lot of 476 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 6: the sort of like reasonable Democrats or whatever we're trying 477 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 6: to be, like we should try to recruit Musk into 478 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 6: the coulition. 479 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 4: Now was a scary moment. 480 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I want to remind everyone this is the 481 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 6: guy who did two Nazi saluted the inauguration two two 482 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 6: of them. He did one and then he did a 483 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 6: second one. People have forgotten that he also did the 484 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 6: second Nazi Like Census administration came into office. He has 485 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 6: spent this time destroying the federal government. He has spent 486 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 6: this time terrorizing like government employees, just shutting down fucking 487 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 6: important government institutions. Enormous numbers of people are going to 488 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 6: die because of the things that he's done, like the 489 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 6: shutting down to USAID, particularly like the vaccine programs, the 490 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 6: anticha V programs. You know, like he's just been doing 491 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 6: all of the shift for this entire time, right, he 492 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 6: has been just systematically looting and tearing apart anything in 493 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 6: the US federal government that even can remotely do anything 494 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 6: for a person from again, everything from like HIV prevention 495 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 6: to like destroying a bunch of the apparatus that like 496 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 6: figures out what the weather is going to be and 497 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 6: tells you when storms are coming. Yeah, he has been 498 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 6: fucking doing that. 499 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: Well, like Mia, the weather is woke. You can't you 500 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: can't forget the woke weather machines. 501 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. 502 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: I just had a meeting with the Southeast Alliance where 503 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 4: we're deciding the weather for the next few weeks. Fucking God, 504 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 4: make it less hot here. It's too fucking hot weather, 505 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 4: too hot. I know, well, we have to raise the temperature. 506 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: It's all. 507 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 4: It's all part of the data plan, large scale political plan. 508 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: That's right, you get it, James, Yeah, full of the plan. 509 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 6: More he more riots, I don't know. 510 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 3: That's right. 511 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: Okay. It's also remembering that these two were very very 512 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 6: close sort of like during this election cycle, right, Trump 513 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 6: was just straight up going for Buddy, was just I mean, 514 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 6: he's just just like straight up in Philadelphia, like paying 515 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 6: people to vote through these like raffles. Elon Elon, Yeah, 516 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 6: Elon was just like, yeah, straight up doing these right, 517 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 6: Trump just. 518 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: Like did a tesla ad. 519 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, it's like he just did a tesla ad. 520 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: They first buddy has gotta gotta have each other's backs, 521 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 4: you know. 522 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: Never say that again. 523 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 6: So there had started to be a little bit of 524 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 6: tension between them, like as the tariff sort of mounted, 525 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 6: because the tariffs are you know, not good for Elon. 526 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 6: I think things kind of came to a head when 527 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 6: Elon tried to buy the Wisconsin Supreme Court election and 528 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 6: just got his ass kicked harder than anyone I've ever 529 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 6: seen get just absolutely thumped. 530 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: And this is where the policy wonk sector of the 531 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: right was starting to like side eye Elon and question 532 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 4: his like yeah, yeah, invincibility, right, this this this this 533 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 4: guy that can come in and like save the Republican Party, 534 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 4: can secure every future election. That's where that I like 535 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: view of Elon started to really get called into question. 536 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: Maybe this guy is kind of just a one hit wonder. 537 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, And and and you can also look at a 538 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 6: lot of the stuff that was sort of happening here 539 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:13,360 Speaker 6: in terms of like she is staggeringly unpopular, right, everyone 540 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:17,119 Speaker 6: fucking hates him, and like the Democratic Party did a 541 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 6: really bad job of this. But like just like the 542 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 6: party's base and the Tesla protests were very effective and 543 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,719 Speaker 6: like negative, yea polarizing opinion of him. Negative, people really 544 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 6: really dislike him. 545 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 4: Like worldwide, Yeah, everyone hates it. 546 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 7: She cost right wing parties elections and countries that like, yeah, 547 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: he's never been taggering staggering like she she may have 548 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 7: accidentally saved Germany from fascism for like a decade. Why, 549 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 7: it's very funny, you know, critical support to the to 550 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 7: the fascist carmaker who saves Germany from fascist Yeah yeah. 551 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 6: And then so okay, so we've we've been coming up 552 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 6: to like the end of his appointment as like a 553 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 6: special what the fuck was the name of the term 554 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 6: special government employeecial government employee? Oh it was special. I 555 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 6: was gonna say that. Then I was like, it can't 556 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 6: be called special government employee. 557 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 4: We call it a sidge Ski ski Gay. Well, James, 558 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: you can't say that, No, no, you can't. 559 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 3: I've been canceled. 560 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 6: But there was always a question of like what exactly 561 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 6: his role is going to be going forward once his 562 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 6: time as a special government employee like ran out, Yeah, 563 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 6: but then he leaves with Steven Miller's. 564 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 8: Wife, so as we reported in previous episodes, But the 565 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 8: final break came over the weekend over the. 566 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 4: Budget, big beautiful budget, and Elon. 567 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: Has been pissed off at this budget for like a while, 568 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 6: and over the weekend he finally starts straight up doing 569 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 6: like kill the budget posting and telling people to like 570 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 6: call their senators to kill the budget instead of just 571 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 6: saying it's bad. And this is I think actually an 572 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 6: important thing to note here. 573 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 4: Like like actively campaigning against the budget bill and yeah yeah, 574 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 4: which is essentially Trump's like core policy at this point. 575 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 4: It's like the way to the way to push through 576 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 4: a whole bunch of the stuff that he can't just 577 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 4: do himself as president. Yep, is just trojanhorse through this 578 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: budget bill. 579 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah. And and and then this gets too, I 580 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: think something that's like a kind of important split in 581 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 6: the Republican Party right now about this budget, which is 582 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 6: that like Musk is a is a budget deficit true believer, right, 583 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 6: Like yes, he and his guls are trying to destroy 584 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 6: the federal government because like ideologically they don't think it 585 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: should really exist except for like as a tool to 586 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 6: hand the money, as a tool to like shoot people 587 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 6: who they don't like but he is part of this 588 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: caudra of tech people. And this is very very common 589 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 6: in these tech circles. And you see that in some 590 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 6: finance circles of these people who believe that the US 591 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: is about to like enter like the super Great depression 592 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 6: because the amount of the GDP being spent on debt 593 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: payments is too high, and so they think if they 594 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 6: don't like stop this right now, And this is partially 595 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 6: why they are trying to like crash the economy, because 596 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 6: they thought that if you crash the economy and he 597 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 6: did all this terrift stuff or like whatever it would 598 00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 6: it would decrease the cost of of US borrowing. Now 599 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 6: that didn't happen, right, The interest rates of the bond 600 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 6: shot up because everyone was like, holy fuck, these like 601 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 6: absolute maniacs aren't gonna pay their debt. So you know, 602 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: none of the shit is working. But they are like 603 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 6: true believers on this, yeah right, And this is again 604 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 6: this is very very very common in tech circles. Like 605 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 6: these people who like are are really like, oh God, 606 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 6: the US is gonna die unless we like yeah, like 607 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 6: unless we start just like destroying the national debt. 608 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 4: And the whole doge idea is built around like Terminal 609 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 4: Tech Brain, and it's it's trying to apply the logic 610 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: of these like startups that are kind of scams, but 611 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: trying to apply the logic of startups to an entire government. 612 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 4: And there was an interview INPR this week where they 613 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 4: talked to a DOGE employee. 614 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, he has an ex DOGE employee. 615 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 4: And NPR asked about how much fraud and abuse they 616 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: were actually able to find, and he said, quote, I 617 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 4: did not find the federal government to be rife with waste, 618 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: fraud and abuse. I was expecting some more easy wins. 619 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 4: I was hoping for opportunity to cut waste, fraud and abuse. 620 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: And I do believe that there is a lot of waste. 621 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: There's minimal amounts of fraud and abuse to me feels 622 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 4: relatively non existent. And the reason is, I think we 623 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 4: have a bias as people coming from the tech industry 624 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 4: where we worked at companies you know, such as Google, Facebook, 625 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 4: These companies that have plenty of money, are funded by 626 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: investors and have lots of people kind of sitting around 627 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: and doing nothing on growth. So his idea that the 628 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 4: government must be full of like fraud and abuse is 629 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 4: because that's just how tech companies work, and he assumed 630 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: that the government works the same as a tech company. Yeah, 631 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 4: and I think Elon have uwsed this the exact same way. 632 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 4: That's why he was doing his like Twitter takeover stuff 633 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: to the government, is he believed that's how it actually functions, 634 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 4: and it doesn't. That's not really how the federal bureaucracy functions. 635 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 4: Like like these people have just like eaten the fucking 636 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 4: kool aid, right, Like none of the Republicans actually believed that, 637 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 4: like the US like economy functions like a pocketbook, Like 638 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: none of them believe that you're because it's not true, right, 639 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 4: Like you don't print your own money, so of course 640 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 4: the US government doesn't find some like pocketbook. But like, 641 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 4: this is the generation of people where like the people 642 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: who are just so absolutely pilled on the ideology have 643 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: taken over. 644 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 6: But on the other hand, there is Trump, and Trump 645 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 6: doesn't give off fuck about any of this, right, Like 646 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 6: the faction that Trump here is representing is the faction 647 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 6: of capitalists who just wants tax cuts. You don't give 648 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 6: off fuck about like all of this weird tech brain stuff. 649 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 6: Like they elected Trump with the mandate of handing them 650 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 6: trillions of dollars in these formula tax cuts, and that's 651 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 6: all they care about. And we're getting a giant conflict 652 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 6: between them because as much as Trump has just sort 653 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 6: of been like lying about the budget numbers or whatever 654 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 6: the fuck, if you're one of these actual budget lock people, 655 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 6: you can just look at the budget and go, this 656 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 6: is going to increase the debt by like two trillion 657 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 6: dollars or whatever the fuck, right, And it's revealed a 658 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 6: sort of pre existing source of tension inside of the 659 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: base between the sort of tech people and a lot 660 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 6: of the rest of sectors are capital which aren't as 661 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 6: ideologically pilled. So let's get into all of the actual 662 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 6: shit because it's very funny. So Business Insider put together 663 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 6: a really good minute by minute timeline if you want 664 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 6: to do that. I'm not going through this shit minute 665 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 6: by minute. 666 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go through minute by minute. I am. 667 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 4: I am going to go through tweet by tweet tweet 668 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 4: because we have to talk about the tweets. The first 669 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,239 Speaker 4: time I've ever really wanted to say that. Yeah, the 670 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 4: first big tweet, and this was you know, amongst Elon 671 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 4: crashing out about the budget bill and talking about how 672 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: he's going to cancel certain SpaceX SpaceX projects. But the 673 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: first big tweet from Elon was time to drop the 674 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 4: really big bomb at real Donald Trump is in the 675 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: Epstein files. That is the real reason they have not 676 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 4: been made public. Have a nice day, Donald J. 677 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 3: Trump. 678 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: Mark this place. In the future, the truth will come out. 679 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: So this is this is the really big one, as 680 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 4: Elon says, the really big Bob. 681 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 6: I actually think this, in the long run could be 682 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 6: one of the most important aspects of this entire fight. 683 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 6: Because the right is incredibly conspiracy brains. They've all been 684 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 6: like hyped up on this, like Epstein pill shit and 685 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 6: like like specifically on like the Trump's gonna release Epstein 686 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 6: files and show all the Democrats right, But they've always 687 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 6: had like the psychological block about talking about the fact 688 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 6: that like Trump and Epstein are the most connected motherfuckers 689 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 6: anyone's ever been. I'm gonna read this. There's a very 690 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 6: famous quote from a New York magazine article that's like 691 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 6: Trump talking to a bunch of people at like a meeting. Quote. 692 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 6: I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy, Trump booms 693 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 6: from a speakerphone. He's a lot of fun. To be 694 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 6: with it. Has even said that he likes beautiful women 695 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 6: as much as I do, and many of them are 696 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 6: on the younger side, no doubt about it. Jeffrey enjoys 697 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 6: his social life. So like he knew, right he was 698 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 6: transmitting for ages, Yeah, some two and two, Like he's 699 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 6: he's on Epstein's fucking. 700 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: Plain like he is, like everyone knows this, right, like 701 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 4: everyone except everyone knows this right, everyone except for like 702 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 4: the weirdo QAnon, right, yeah, understands this. And some of 703 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: the young people try to justify this as being like, no, 704 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 4: Trump was like, you know, a deep mold, a deep 705 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 4: plant who got in close with with Epstein so that 706 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: we could eventually round up and arrest all the Democrat pedophiles. Right, 707 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 4: That's what they try to justify it. But now that 708 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 4: that sort of like specific QAnon logic doesn't really exist 709 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 4: as much on the right anymore. Yeah, now people just 710 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 4: like memory hole, especially the right, They just memory hole 711 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 4: that like Trump and Epstein were best buddies. 712 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, and like and and this is the thing, it's 713 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 6: been impossible we'll talk about on the right, you just 714 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 6: can't do it, right. Yeah, And suddenly Elon Musk, who 715 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 6: is a guy who like is capable of shifting what 716 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 6: right wing discourse is. Its suddenly like, yeah, this guy's 717 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 6: a pedophile. I want to read this. This, this post 718 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,760 Speaker 6: that Trump made has response to this, right I missed 719 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 6: this when this happens. I've only seen this in the 720 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 6: business inside of reporting, so on truth social Trump's response 721 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,919 Speaker 6: to this was to post it or to truth the truth. 722 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:55,479 Speaker 4: Thank you. 723 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 6: Of David Shown, who tweeted this quote. I was hired 724 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 6: to lead Jeffrey Fstein's defense as his criminal lawyer nine 725 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 6: days before he died. He sought my advice for months 726 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 6: before that. I can authoritatively, unequivocally and definitively say he 727 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 6: has no information to hurt President Trump. I specifically asked him. 728 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sounds legit. 729 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 6: This is one of the most unhinged posts I have 730 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 6: ever seen. This genuinely, this is this is not a joke. 731 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 6: If you if you are a fucking poster and you 732 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,720 Speaker 6: are like, what can my contribution to like the future 733 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 6: of democracy be? You need to push this shit into 734 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 6: the unhinged like fucking like the depths of like fucking 735 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 6: eight chan right like into into like the fucking breeding 736 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 6: layers of the most unhinged reutling spaces in the world. 737 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 6: You need to be going in and just injecting this 738 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 6: shit straight into their fucking brains. You you need to 739 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 6: be like like just like just just hyping them up 740 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 6: on the most unhinged conspiracies about Trump being like a 741 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 6: fucking like being a fucking Epstein guy, because this is 742 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 6: completely unhinged, Like, what do you mean. His defense lawyer, 743 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 6: who was hired nine days before he died, is supposed 744 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 6: to have specifically asked him about Trump and Trump's response 745 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 6: to being called a pedophile as you go to this 746 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 6: guy fucking inject that shit into right wing discourse. We 747 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 6: know four chan does this the leftist discourse all the 748 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 6: time and injects like the worst discourses of all time. 749 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 6: Fucking do it to them. 750 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 4: It is odd how this was really the first thing 751 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 4: that breaks through this block on the right. You had 752 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 4: to You had Alex Jones like freaking out on Twitter 753 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: being quote, God help us. 754 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 3: All, Kanye, Oh yay. 755 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 4: Kanye was freaking out, Turn was crashing out on the timeline. 756 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 4: It was really bizarre. Trump's immediate response was saying, quote, 757 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 4: I don't mind Elon turning against me, but he should 758 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 4: have done so months ago, this is one of the 759 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 4: greatest bills ever presented to Congress, and then goes on 760 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 4: to talk about how great the bill is. It's wild. 761 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: You had I Miles Chong tweeting about versus the president 762 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 4: who will win My money is on Elon Trump should 763 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 4: be impeached and JD. Van should replace him with Elon 764 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 4: Musk boosting this claim saying yes, yeah. 765 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 3: It's pretty good. It says pretty funny. 766 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 4: Something that's extremely indicative of the current cultural moment that 767 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 4: we are at is during this spat, when when things 768 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 4: really broke out on Twitter and truth social during during 769 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: this spat, both the Vice President of the United States 770 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: and the director of the FBI were on two separate 771 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 4: podcasts and got to live react to this very funny Unfortunately, 772 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 4: I am going to play the clip. I will start 773 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 4: with JD. Vance reacting live on a podcast by someone 774 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 4: named THEO Vaughn. 775 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 6: Here. 776 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 9: Here's here's my basic reaction to like all this stuff 777 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 9: is luck. First of all, like absolutely not. Donald Trump 778 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 9: didn't do anything wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. Like there's the 779 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 9: guy is whatever the Democrats and the media says about him, 780 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 9: that's totally bs. Here here's my basic my basic read 781 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 9: on it. First of all, I'm the vice President's the 782 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 9: President Trump. My loyalties are always going to be with 783 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 9: the President. And I think that Elon, he's an incredible entrepreneur. 784 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 9: He's actually done I think does was really good. This 785 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,320 Speaker 9: sort of effort to root out waste fraud abuse in 786 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 9: our country is really good. And and and look, man, 787 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 9: I'm always going to be loyal to the President, and 788 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 9: I hope that eventually Elon kind of comes back into 789 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 9: the fold. Maybe that's not possible now because he's gone, 790 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 9: so nuclear hope it is. 791 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 4: Do you know why? 792 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean so, look, I think number one, Elon's 793 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 9: new to politics, right, So part of it is this 794 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 9: guy got into politics and it's has suffered a lot 795 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 9: for it. But I mean, I and I get the 796 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,439 Speaker 9: frustration there, and I get the frustration that me. Look, 797 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 9: Congress got the spending bill, but the main purpose of 798 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 9: the bill is not actually spending or cutting spending, though 799 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 9: it does cut a lot of spending. The main purpose 800 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 9: of the bill is to prevent the biggest tax increase. 801 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 9: But I understand, like it's a good bill, it's not 802 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 9: a perfect bill. Like the process in DC if you're 803 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 9: a business leader, you probably get frustrated with that process 804 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,879 Speaker 9: because it's more you know, bureaucratic, it's more slow moving. 805 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 9: So I think there's just some frustrations there. But I really, man, 806 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 9: I think it's a huge mistake for him to go 807 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 9: after the president like that, and I think that if 808 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,200 Speaker 9: he and the president are in some blood feud, most importantly, 809 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 9: it's going to be bad for the country. But I 810 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 9: think it's going to be I don't think it's going 811 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 9: to be good for Elon either. 812 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 4: So that's jd Vance's reaction to this. He eventually got 813 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 4: put onto like damage control. We'll talk about that in 814 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 4: a sec. What is more interesting to me is cash 815 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 4: Ptel's reaction because Patel has been taking fire from the 816 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 4: right for being a little bit soft on the promise 817 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: of releasing the full Epstein files, trying to downplay the 818 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 4: tent at the files and say there's really nothing in 819 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 4: there that's super notable, and this has gotten him in 820 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: trouble because him and people like Dan Bongino have for 821 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 4: years made a living out of talking about how the 822 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: Epstein files is going to, you know, ruin the Democratic Party. 823 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 4: They have they have all of this evidence all this footage, 824 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,160 Speaker 4: and now that these guys are in power, they're simply 825 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 4: not talking about this issue. And this has got some 826 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,760 Speaker 4: of the qan On right upset and cash Footel's reaction 827 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 4: to this is is frankly baffling. I'm not participating in 828 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 4: that conversation. 829 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 6: Have a nice day, DD so much takets fall away. 830 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 3: Are going back and forth about different things. 831 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 6: And yeah, he said he was disappointing Elon. Yeah, I 832 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 6: want to leave Jesus Christ. That's a crazy thing to say. 833 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 6: How does he know? Does he know that Donald Trump 834 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 6: is in the Epstein files or does he have access 835 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:48,880 Speaker 6: to them? 836 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: I don't know how he would, But I'm just staying 837 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: out of the Trump Elon thing. 838 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 3: That's way outside of my life. I know my lane, 839 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,160 Speaker 3: and that. 840 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 4: Ain't What do you mean? This isn't your lane. You're 841 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 4: the director of the FBI, you are in charge of 842 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 4: the Epstein files. This specifically is your lane. This, this 843 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 4: one thing is actually your lane. It's unhinged. Oh my god. 844 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,720 Speaker 3: His big thing now is yes to wear a hunting 845 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 3: camera all the time. I guess it's his new lane. 846 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 4: So after the heat of this started to die down, 847 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 4: you started to get more of the right try to, 848 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 4: I guess, soothe the tension. A lot of a lot 849 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 4: of people trying to trying to talk about coming together. 850 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 4: You had right wing commentators trying to frame this as 851 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 4: two alpha males beefing right this this is this is 852 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 4: just how you just how alpha male's. 853 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 3: Beef we got. We've got to quote some of these because. 854 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,919 Speaker 4: Jack Pasovic famously said, some of y'all can't handle two 855 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 4: high agency males going at it, and it really shows 856 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 4: this is direct communication, fallow centric versus indirect communication. Guy nocentric, 857 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,839 Speaker 4: I understand you aren't used to it. Wonderful stuff from 858 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 4: Pasovic as usual. Yeah, you also had our friends at 859 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 4: the New Norm posting videos about trying to solve this 860 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 4: dispute through a dancing competition. Roll the clip. 861 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 6: Can't we all just get along? 862 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 2: We've got to cut you to say. 863 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 4: Hey, I do find it odd that a lot of 864 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 4: people's innate reaction after the heat died down was even 865 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 4: if Elon Musk is semi credibly accusing the president of 866 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 4: being a pedophile. Can't we just all get along together? 867 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 4: I don't know why we can't just get along? This 868 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,240 Speaker 4: is this is hurting the country, and Elon's like remark 869 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 4: about Trump being in the files is in and of 870 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 4: itself just kind of baffling from Elon's perspective, because he 871 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 4: was bragging in tweets about how he is responsible for 872 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 4: Trump being elected, and Trump was then having to respond 873 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 4: to that by claiming that they would have won the 874 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 4: election without Elon, but Elon was saying that without him, 875 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 4: Trump would have lost the election right after he called 876 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 4: him a pedophile, which is super interesting because it's essentially 877 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 4: Musk saying, I'm fine with making sure a pedophile gets 878 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,879 Speaker 4: elected president, but I draw the line at a bad 879 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 4: spending bill. Yeah, yeah, that's that's really what is too 880 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 4: much for him. The implication is that if he didn't 881 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 4: get essentially shafted from the White House, he just would 882 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 4: have kept this a secret. And he's like okay with 883 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 4: working with Trump otherwise except for the bad bill, and 884 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 4: ye maybe he's maybe he's butt heard about Trump threatening 885 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 4: to terminate his governmental subsidies and contracts, but like, come on, Elons, 886 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 4: this is crazy. 887 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, not the most well considered. 888 00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 5: It is fantastic that the richest man in the world 889 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 5: is addicted to posting, because we get some real we 890 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 5: get some real banging posters. 891 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 4: Poster's madness. It never never fails. 892 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,879 Speaker 6: I gotta say though, Trump's posting response terrible. This guy 893 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,799 Speaker 6: has washed There's nothing there. He's fucking gone mentally like 894 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,240 Speaker 6: he could have fucking get Like even twenty twenty, Trump 895 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 6: just destroys him in one tweet like none of this 896 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 6: is He's there's nothing left there. He's a shell. Now. 897 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 4: They have now been making attempts to fold the team 898 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 4: back together. It was reported recently that actually on Friday night, 899 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 4: which was the day after this spat on unfolded on Twitter, 900 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 4: but a Friday night jd Vance and Whiteouse chief of 901 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 4: staff Susie Willis had a call with Elon to de 902 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 4: escalate the conflict. Eventually, Elon started deleting some of his 903 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 4: more inflammatory tweets about the president coward and has now 904 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,040 Speaker 4: posted quote, I regret some of my posts about President 905 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 4: Trump last week. They went too far. 906 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,240 Speaker 3: I said the thing that wasn't supposed to say. 907 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 4: So he got us stern talking to by jd Vance, 908 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 4: who is kind of caught in between Trump and Musk 909 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,280 Speaker 4: here but has stated that his loyalties will will always 910 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,800 Speaker 4: lie with the President. So yeah, that is the current 911 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 4: state of the Musk and Trump fallout, it will not 912 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 4: be able to go back to how it was, but 913 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 4: they might try to play nice again. Yep, I think 914 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 4: that does it for us. Here at it could Happen Here, 915 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 4: we reported the news. 916 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 3: We reported the news. 917 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 10: It could Happen Here is a production of cool Zone Media. 918 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,760 Speaker 10: For more podcasts from cool Zone Media, visit our website 919 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 10: coolzonmedia dot com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, 920 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 10: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 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