WEBVTT - The Writing on the Wall 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.280 Good morning, Pezza, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:19.799 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:23.760 this week is supposed to be a major week in America. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:29.560 Why is that because on Thursday, for the first time 0:00:30.880 --> 0:00:34.839 on prime time, we are going to learn more details 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:39.520 about what happened on January sixth, that one six House 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:46.280 Commission will be finally presenting their case to the American people. Now, 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:51.839 I am praying on everything and every stone and every 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:56.160 bundle of fucking sage that this presentation is a hell 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:58.560 of a lot fucking better than what was presented to 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:03.240 us with the Muller Report. Unfortunately, in this country, you 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.840 need to entertain people. They need to be brought in, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.640 They need to see video clips, they need to hear outrage, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.440 they need to understand the urgency of what is still 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:19.400 a slow moving coup that's not that fucking slow. Coming 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:24.480 up next my conversation with our friend MSNBC legal analyst 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.839 and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirschner. We'll talk 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:32.000 about what we are going to see this week, what 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.319 we are hoping to see, and of course, once again, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.480 you know I asked the questions about is Merritt Garland 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:42.880 paying attention, is he operating on the same fucking timeline 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.800 for the demise of our democracy, or is he, like 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:52.160 Joe Biden, still operating in twentieth century reality. The things 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.440 that we have to understand and what Democrats need to 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:58.480 do is present the facts. Republicans are a dangerous fucking cult. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.360 They have ex community dicated two of their own because 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:07.280 of their refusal to participate in the big lie. And 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:12.440 the fact is that if we do not take action, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.760 if this Department of Justice continues to move at a 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:22.320 fucking sloth like place pace and not take action, we're done. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:25.040 You know, for the past couple of weeks, I've been 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.120 speaking with so many people who are saying to me 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:33.680 things like, I think that New Zealand seems nice. I'm 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:38.280 looking into Portugal. I'm looking into leaving this country because 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.880 I believe that it's going to become increasingly dangerous. This 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.600 is what people who a couple of years ago, a 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.840 year ago, would never have uttered these things, who wouldn't 0:02:49.840 --> 0:02:53.679 consider themselves to be hyperbolic. But the reality is is 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.639 that if you're paying attention, the writing is on the wall. 0:02:56.800 --> 0:03:02.320 Look at what just transpired over the weekend. There were 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:09.480 mass shootings in multiple cities, and we're doing nothing about it. 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:11.760 We continue to say in the media, Oh, we're going 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:14.800 to be having these bipartisan talks that will go nowhere, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.360 like they always do. We'll be outraged for a little 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:21.520 bit and then we will move on to something else. 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:25.280 I believe that things in this country are going to 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.680 get bloody or before they get better. I believe that 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:33.320 there are attacks that are being planned. I believe that 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.000 what is happening with the rise of white supremacy and 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.280 white domestic terrorists violence is that it's going to hit 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:44.080 a fever pitch this summer, which is when shootings tend 0:03:44.120 --> 0:03:48.640 to go up anyway. But now we have in the 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.080 next couple of weeks, we will learn the fate, the 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:55.240 final fate of Rov Wade. We will learn if the 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.160 Supreme Court has decided to just make it open fucking 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.120 season in New York City and allow allowing assault rifles 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.680 right to be a part of the equation. Just over 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.680 the weekend again, our governor here in New York put 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:15.360 together a list of gun restrictions, raising the age to 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:19.440 twenty one years old, red flag laws, doing all of 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:24.080 these things in anticipation of the Supreme Court thwarting states 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:28.600 as rights, because it's okay to have states rights when 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:33.039 it is about what abortion and control in that way. 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:37.360 But if you try and limit guns and violence, then 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:41.640 all of a sudden, we have a fucking problem if 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:46.440 we do not, if Democrats do not begin to connect 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:50.080 the dots and stop imagining for themselves that there are 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.800 some quote unquote rational Republicans that are left. If they 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:59.240 don't understand that sixty five percent of Republicans believe that 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:05.400 it is okay to use threats of violence against the government. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:11.160 New Poland came out, we hadn't seen those numbers. So 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:16.040 these people not only see the insurrection as something that's justifiable, 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.839 they see it as the blueprint for how they plan 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:23.720 on moving forward. So what are the rest of us 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:30.520 going to do? I pray that this week is the 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:35.359 beginning of real change, changing of people's minds and belief 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:40.839 that they still have the power to shift our government 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:48.400 from turning into a full on autocratic state. We are 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:52.960 in so much fucking trouble. And if they just think 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:56.000 that it's going to be enough to just show people 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:59.000 what happened and not connect it to what is continually 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:04.680 happening since the insurrection. It's a rap. Our democracy is 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:12.440 a fucking rap. I am becoming more and more concerned 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.279 having serious conversations with my family about what it is 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:18.320 that we are going to do in order to be 0:06:18.440 --> 0:06:21.840 safe and to keep ourselves safe, and does that look 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:26.039 like remaining in this country that is finding ways to 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:34.839 kill us every day? So I don't know. I know 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:38.000 that I will be watching on Thursday. I know that 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:42.479 I will be in the tweets as this begins a 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:49.719 six week rollout. 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Folks, we are gearing up for 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.280 what is going to be, I don't know, another blockbuster 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:49.400 week in America. At the end of this week the 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:55.400 hearings the one six Commission has finally, after thousands of interviews, 0:08:55.440 --> 0:09:02.360 thousands of documents, subpoenas, back and forth with Republican House 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.400 members that are defying their own rules that they took 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:12.640 an oath to, we will begin this hearing. I don't 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.120 even know what a primetime spectacle. Who knows, but to 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:20.760 prep us for what we can anticipate at the end 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.640 of this week is our friend, host of Justice Matters 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:31.000 and MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. Glenn, A couple of 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:35.400 things percolated up last week. I mean, in between multiple 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.760 mass shootings that I know that you've been covering that 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.600 I've been on TV discussing that I've just been losing 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:47.800 my mind over there has been movement, more movement than 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:51.080 we have seen and heard from the Department of Justice 0:09:51.360 --> 0:09:58.560 since the insurrection January twenty January twenty twenty one, I 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:02.560 want to start with the you tweeted, and I'm a 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:06.720 terrible person, but you tweeted and said that it seems 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:11.560 as if Donald Trump is under investigation with the Department 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:16.079 of Justice. Why is this leaking? Why are we hearing 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:20.920 about this now after so many I guess well over 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.360 a year now, well over a year of relative silence 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:32.000 outside of the presser that Merritt Garland gave on the 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:36.960 year anniversary of the insurrection. So what makes you lead 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:42.280 to that assumption and and what do you think is happening? Yeah, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.680 I've got an opinion on this, Danielle, And I guess 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.680 the opinions are like elbows. Everybody's got a couple, and 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.320 they're often no use to anybody else. But I'm gonna 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:53.840 take a stab at it because we have been waiting 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.559 and dying, and you and I have been talking every week. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.560 When are we going to see some movement from the 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:05.520 Department of Justice opening a criminal investigation into Donald Trump? 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.200 Not that DOJ should announce it, we get that, But 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.760 anytime we have a big old investigation going take it 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:17.160 from a former federal prosecutor, that information leaks out into 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:22.480 the public square, typically by what I call the leakers, 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.880 the lawyers and the liars. Right it comes out. It 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.239 just comes out. But we've heard nothing, and that's frustrated 0:11:29.280 --> 0:11:32.040 the heck out of us. Now all of a sudden, 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:37.160 this avalanche of information is tumbling into the public square 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:40.840 about dj criminally investigating Trump, and we'll talk about what 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.400 that evidence is. But I have an opinion as to 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.960 why it's coming out now. First of all, I do 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.640 think the Department of Justice has been doing a lot 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.280 behind the scenes that we haven't known about, but all 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:57.000 of a sudden it's becoming very public. Well, what is 0:11:57.040 --> 0:12:00.559 about to happen In just a few days. We are 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.559 going to see with our own eyes the evidence of 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:08.440 Donald Trump's crime, the crime of his co conspirators. The 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.960 January sixth Committee is going to pull back the curtain 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:14.760 on Donald Trump's insurrection, and as Jamie Raskin has said, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.000 it's going to blow the roof off the house. I 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.920 believe that. And before I go to the evidence of 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.440 why we know Donald Trump is being investigated criminally, I've 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.400 said this before, but I think it bears repeating. The 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:33.800 chief investigative counsel for the j six Committee, leading a 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.680 team of former federal prosecutors, is one of the best 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.080 rico prosecutors we've ever had. He also happens to be 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.600 a former colleague and a friend of mine. His name 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:48.400 is Tim Heafe. And let me be let me hasten 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.440 to add I have no inside information I wouldn't ask 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:56.560 him a question even if I could. He I saw 0:12:56.679 --> 0:13:01.800 him give the opening statement in the biggest Rico prosecution 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:05.040 we ever brought in the courts of Washington, DC, and 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.640 I got justice goosebumps, And I kind of reluctantly say 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.000 that because I don't want to pump Tim's head any 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.160 bigger than it already is. He's a very good man, 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:20.480 but he's remarkable at putting together both the evidence of 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:25.240 the crimes he's prosecuting and the message the way it's delivered. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:30.480 And I have every confidence that what we are going 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.120 to see beginning on June ninth will look like the 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:38.240 most compelling presentation of an opening statement to a jury 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.800 that anybody has ever seen. Quite frankly, I'm that confident 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:46.800 in the way the message is going to be delivered. Now, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:50.200 the difference, the difference between how one would present to 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.160 a jury, obviously, and the presentation that we are going 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.760 to see beginning on Thursday, is different because there is 0:13:58.040 --> 0:14:02.520 no representation or Donald Trump. This is not a court 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.520 of law. So just explain to folks how this different, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:10.000 this one may differ from what we experienced with the 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.480 Mueller Report, and how this differs you know, with our 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:18.560 television law and order criminal you know show fantasies that 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.880 we all watch on a regular basis. Two great questions. 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.800 It differs from the Mueller Report in that it's going 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.080 to come to us largely unfiltered Bill Bark and not 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:33.160 block the truthful information about Donald Trump's crimes. This time, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:37.120 I go back and my blood pressure instantly rises when 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:41.160 I think about how Bill Barr lied to us about 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:45.160 what Bob Muller found regarding the crimes of Donald Trump. 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:48.760 And one of my personal heroes, Judge Reggie Walton, is 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:52.280 the federal judge who ruled and announced that Bill Barr 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.880 lied to us about the Mueller Report. We don't have 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.160 that problem this time. But the other way it's going 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:03.200 to be a challenge, I think for them to present 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:06.240 it to us is twelve jurors in a box or 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.880 a captive audience. They can't go anywhere. They have to 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.520 sit there and listen to us, and it doesn't matter. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:15.040 You know, they don't have to change the channel, and 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.680 you know, no different news organizations or broadcasting it, and 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.840 they can pick and choose. So they're going to need 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.960 to present this in a way that grabs hold of us. 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:28.960 I always tell my prosecutors, when you're arguing to a 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.680 jury your opening statement, you want to grab the jurors 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.960 by the throat figuratively speaking, and you never let go. 0:15:35.400 --> 0:15:38.160 I don't care if you're opening statement lasts an hour 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.480 or a day, and in big regal prosecutions they run many, 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:46.640 many hours. So their challenge is to grab hold of 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:51.880 us and not let the viewer go. And this team 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:56.800 that has been working this investigation is as adept at 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.760 delivering a message to the jury in this case the 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.880 American people, as I think any team that has ever 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:07.400 worked as part of a congressional investigation. So you know, 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.120 buckle up, because I think we're going to get what 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:14.440 we've been longing for. And then that transitions me into well, why, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.040 all of a sudden are we hearing that Donald Trump 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.920 is being criminally investigated, Because we are hearing that all 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:22.040 of a sudden, we've got information that, oh my goodness, 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:27.080 they're using grand jury subpoenas to investigate Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:31.280 John Eastman, and Donald Trump's fay collector's scheme. They delivered 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.720 a grand jury subpoena to you know, mister green Bay 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:37.400 sweet Peter Navarro, who I'm sorry is a stone called clown. 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.240 I saw him on Ari again. He's a stone called clown. 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.960 The arguments that he makes are absurd and juvenile and specious. 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:51.120 But the grand Jury subpoenaed him and they directed him 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:56.000 to provide all evidence of communications between he and Donald Trump. 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.680 The Grand Jury is criminally investigating Donald Trump. There's no 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:02.800 two ways about it. Why are we all of a 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.960 sudden hearing about it? Because I believe the Department of 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:12.000 Justice knows precisely what the January sixth Committee is about 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:15.760 to unleash on the American people. And when we see 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.560 in those public hearings the evidence of Donald Trump's crimes 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.960 with our own eyes, and when we learn that there 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:26.240 is evidence that can prove those crimes beyond a reasonable doubt, 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.560 you know what's going to happen. We're going to explode. 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:33.280 There's going to be a public outcry about why has 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:38.720 a DJ indicted Donald Trump for these crimes that we've 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:43.439 just seen broadcast in prime time? And I think DJ 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.800 is trying to get ahead of that coming public outcry. 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:51.200 I really do so. I think they've been investigating him methodically, 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.480 perhaps slowly, and behind the scenes, But now it's all 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:58.159 going to start to come out, and I'm going to 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:03.399 use the O word optimistic. I'm feeling more optimistic right now. 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:06.320 I have to. I have to kind of separate out 0:18:06.359 --> 0:18:09.680 the mass shootings, which drags me down to a very 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.000 dark place. And I'm happy to talk about those if 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:16.640 you want. But I'm feeling more optimistic right now than 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:19.000 I have in a while. So here's the thing that 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.000 I'm thinking about right because to me, all of this 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:27.520 is for the public, is mostly about pr and branding 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:32.400 right now. For the last six weeks, unfortunately, you had 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:37.919 had the great displeasure of commenting on Johnny Depp and 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.840 Amber heard right. Only one time. I was forced to 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.320 go on Aaron talk about that the world had been 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:47.720 captivated right all over social media on this celebrity and 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.080 I call it celebrity crap. That's what I will say. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:54.200 There are too many important things going on for us 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.879 to be delving into, Oh, who's going to get hundreds 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:01.640 of millions of dollars from whom? Right when people can't 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.359 even put bread and gas in their house. At the 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:11.480 same time, what do you make of the sensationalism that 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:16.080 that trial had, that captivated people. It kept people tuned 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:21.720 in for six weeks. And what is it that the 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.159 hearings that we are going to see in prime time 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:29.000 need to do in order to have that same captivation that? 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.000 Say I and I'm sorry to say it. We are 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:37.960 a reality TV celebrity junk junked up culture, right, and 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:41.680 so if there is going to be any real movement here, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.359 the people need to be spoken to as if we 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:49.240 are all collectively the jury. So what do you make 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.040 of what we saw with the depth and heard and 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.600 what we can anticipate in terms of how this is 0:19:56.640 --> 0:20:01.440 going to be presented and discussed to keep people in engaged? Yeah, 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.480 so there are three things I think that captivated people, 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:10.919 you know, regarding the depth heard circus trial. One, we 0:20:11.000 --> 0:20:14.439 love celebrity, we just do, and so we're always going 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:19.240 to be drawn to a good celebrity story. Two, when 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.120 those celebrities are struggling in their lives and fighting and 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.600 feuding and it's ugly and there's all kinds of salacious 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:31.000 stories about what one does to another, we love both 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:35.480 the celebrity and I'm sorry to say, Danielle, we somehow 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:41.160 it makes some people feel better when when rich celebrated 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.040 people struggle and suffer, so there's that added bonus to 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.159 those who are attracted to the tragedy of a celebrity 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:52.720 relationship going bad. And then, third, I think it's the 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:56.840 distraction because you know what, whatever Johnny Depp and Amber 0:20:56.880 --> 0:21:00.680 Heard did or didn't do to one another has nothing 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:06.960 to do with the health and viability of our democracy 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.600 or our day to day lives, so we can plug 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:13.679 into it as escapism. So I think those three things 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:18.359 in combination is what drew people to that coverage. But 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:23.280 you know, this story we're about to see beginning on 0:21:23.400 --> 0:21:28.320 June nine, is all that, but a whole lot more. 0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:33.639 It's got celebrity, it's got ugliness, it's got you ugly 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.320 feuds between and among people who used to be friends 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:41.679 and family. But it also directly impacts our lives and 0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:45.640 the future of our democracy. So I do think it's 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:48.800 a challenge to present it in a way that captivates 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.960 people because I'm sorry, we need to be entertained. But 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:54.360 I am going to go back to I have complete 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.159 confidence in this team, both the team working as the 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:02.680 investigative team, the former federal prosecutors, and the team in 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:06.160 front of the cameras, the you know, the Jamie Raskins 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:12.040 and the representative Thompson's and the Cheneys, who I believe 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.160 know how to deliver the message in a way that 0:22:15.320 --> 0:22:20.439 it's going to resonate. So right now we know that 0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:25.280 there have been several subpoenas, right Petter Navarro, as you mentioned, 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:27.840 and he I don't even know why the man goes 0:22:27.840 --> 0:22:30.920 on television. I guess to make himself look good, but 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:38.280 he fails. He has been subpoenaed. We know that there 0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:42.200 are proud boys, there are still where I'm still waiting 0:22:42.200 --> 0:22:45.760 for an investigation into Jenny Thomas. What do you make 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:51.600 of what we know about who has been subpoenaed? Who 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:56.160 is also being requested to come for this prime time 0:22:56.320 --> 0:23:01.040 viewing to actually speak now in front of the American people, 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:07.160 essentially reiterating what they did in their private interviews with 0:23:07.280 --> 0:23:12.359 the committee. Yeah, that's an interesting question. Who are we 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.720 going to see? Who will the witnesses on our TV 0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.840 screens be beginning on June nine. I don't think we 0:23:18.960 --> 0:23:22.439 have an answer to that question yet. But if I 0:23:22.520 --> 0:23:27.560 investigate a pretty significant crime, let's say significant, something that 0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:32.000 you know has lots of witnesses lots of evidence, lots 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:35.600 of damage to the victim and to public safety. I'm 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:39.600 a grand jury. I'll just give you a ballpark. I'm 0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.960 a grand jury. One hundred people. I may only present 0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.000 twenty to the jury at trial because I have to 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:50.400 winnow down the witnesses that will tell the story, will 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:54.119 present the evidence, so I can prove every element of 0:23:54.160 --> 0:23:58.240 the charged offenses. But that won't bore the jury, won't 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:03.160 distract the jury, won't be straneous, won't be perhaps inconsistent 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:07.000 with the message I'm trying to deliver about the crime 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:13.280 that was committed. So that is where again, the expertise 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:19.280 of this team of former federal prosecutors in presenting information 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.959 in exactly that way is why we're gonna see a 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.600 very different presentation. I believe we don't know who the 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.879 witnesses will be, but think back to the first impeachment. 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:32.159 This is what I was thinking, because I was the 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:36.280 first impeachment was pretty compelling. It was pretty compelling. And 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:40.200 you know when you had Ambassador Marie Ivanovitch and Bill 0:24:40.359 --> 0:24:45.400 Taylor and Fiona Hill and even that, you know, ridiculous 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:50.399 human being Gordon Sondlin, one of Trump's lackeys, even he 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:56.440 testified everybody was in the criminal loop, right right right. 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.800 That was pretty compelling. And that was the time when 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:06.040 we had a Congressional staff that consisted of Republicans and Democrats. 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.680 So we still got the stupid dog and pony show 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.840 by the Republicans who were questioning the witnesses. We're not 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.560 going to have that this time. This time, the entire panel, 0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:21.160 the entire J six Committee, is lockstep marching toward justice, 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:24.760 trying to save our democracy. That's why I say we're 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:28.880 going to see a very different presentation, perhaps unlike anything 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:33.480 we've seen before. Let's remind folks too, with a couple 0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:38.480 of minutes that we have in terms of what the 0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:44.840 criminal charges could be that come out of this presentation. 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.760 The whole point, just to remind everybody listening, the whole 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.920 point of this investigation was to get to the bottom 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:55.760 of who was involved with the insurrection, who knew what when? 0:25:56.800 --> 0:26:01.120 Was this something that was premeditated, preplay or was it 0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.440 just people getting quote unquote as many of the infut 0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.560 soldier insurrectionists have said that they just got caught up, right. 0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:12.800 But what we know from the PowerPoint presentation, what we 0:26:12.840 --> 0:26:15.680 know about phone calls back and forth to Mark Meadows. 0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.840 What we know about the oath keepers having stationed people 0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:24.880 in Virginia and different places who eventually take over all 0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:30.919 of the other congressional buildings. This was not just a 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.720 caught up in the moment, And so that is going 0:26:34.760 --> 0:26:37.240 to be what I believe is laid out to the people, 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.280 that this was a coordinated plan. That's what I hope 0:26:40.640 --> 0:26:46.880 that they say still is continuing. Right. So what if 0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:49.399 we're looking at this and the people are going to 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:53.320 reach a fever pitch with regard to how could all 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:56.639 of this criminal mountain be in front of us and 0:26:56.720 --> 0:27:00.879 there be no indictments? What are the possible charges Glenn 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:04.080 that we are looking at not just for Donald Trump, 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:08.320 but for all of the lackeys surrounding him that allowed 0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:13.120 this to take place. This is a criminal conspiracy, and 0:27:13.240 --> 0:27:17.080 there is a precise law in the United States Code, 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.639 my big, ugly blue book of federal laws, the US Code, 0:27:20.680 --> 0:27:23.640 is across my office. I'm tempted to run and get 0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.000 it and hold it up as a prop, but I 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:30.040 won't do that. In that book, the United States Criminal Code, 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:34.960 there's a crime eighteen United States Code, Section three seventy one. 0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:39.440 We call it shorthand a three seventy one conspiracy. It's 0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:45.080