1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Good morning, Pezza, and welcome to Okay f Daily with 2 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 1: this week is supposed to be a major week in America. 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Why is that because on Thursday, for the first time 5 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: on prime time, we are going to learn more details 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: about what happened on January sixth, that one six House 7 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Commission will be finally presenting their case to the American people. Now, 8 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: I am praying on everything and every stone and every 9 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: bundle of fucking sage that this presentation is a hell 10 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: of a lot fucking better than what was presented to 11 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: us with the Muller Report. Unfortunately, in this country, you 12 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: need to entertain people. They need to be brought in, 13 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: They need to see video clips, they need to hear outrage, 14 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: they need to understand the urgency of what is still 15 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: a slow moving coup that's not that fucking slow. Coming 16 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: up next my conversation with our friend MSNBC legal analyst 17 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: and the host of Justice Matters, Glenn Kirschner. We'll talk 18 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: about what we are going to see this week, what 19 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: we are hoping to see, and of course, once again, 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: you know I asked the questions about is Merritt Garland 21 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: paying attention, is he operating on the same fucking timeline 22 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: for the demise of our democracy, or is he, like 23 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, still operating in twentieth century reality. The things 24 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: that we have to understand and what Democrats need to 25 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: do is present the facts. Republicans are a dangerous fucking cult. 26 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: They have ex community dicated two of their own because 27 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: of their refusal to participate in the big lie. And 28 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: the fact is that if we do not take action, 29 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: if this Department of Justice continues to move at a 30 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: fucking sloth like place pace and not take action, we're done. 31 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: You know, for the past couple of weeks, I've been 32 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: speaking with so many people who are saying to me 33 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: things like, I think that New Zealand seems nice. I'm 34 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: looking into Portugal. I'm looking into leaving this country because 35 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: I believe that it's going to become increasingly dangerous. This 36 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: is what people who a couple of years ago, a 37 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: year ago, would never have uttered these things, who wouldn't 38 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,679 Speaker 1: consider themselves to be hyperbolic. But the reality is is 39 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: that if you're paying attention, the writing is on the wall. 40 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: Look at what just transpired over the weekend. There were 41 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: mass shootings in multiple cities, and we're doing nothing about it. 42 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: We continue to say in the media, Oh, we're going 43 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: to be having these bipartisan talks that will go nowhere, 44 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: like they always do. We'll be outraged for a little 45 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: bit and then we will move on to something else. 46 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: I believe that things in this country are going to 47 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: get bloody or before they get better. I believe that 48 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: there are attacks that are being planned. I believe that 49 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: what is happening with the rise of white supremacy and 50 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: white domestic terrorists violence is that it's going to hit 51 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: a fever pitch this summer, which is when shootings tend 52 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: to go up anyway. But now we have in the 53 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, we will learn the fate, the 54 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: final fate of Rov Wade. We will learn if the 55 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Supreme Court has decided to just make it open fucking 56 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: season in New York City and allow allowing assault rifles 57 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: right to be a part of the equation. Just over 58 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: the weekend again, our governor here in New York put 59 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: together a list of gun restrictions, raising the age to 60 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: twenty one years old, red flag laws, doing all of 61 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: these things in anticipation of the Supreme Court thwarting states 62 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: as rights, because it's okay to have states rights when 63 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: it is about what abortion and control in that way. 64 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 1: But if you try and limit guns and violence, then 65 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, we have a fucking problem if 66 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: we do not, if Democrats do not begin to connect 67 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: the dots and stop imagining for themselves that there are 68 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: some quote unquote rational Republicans that are left. If they 69 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: don't understand that sixty five percent of Republicans believe that 70 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: it is okay to use threats of violence against the government. 71 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: New Poland came out, we hadn't seen those numbers. So 72 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: these people not only see the insurrection as something that's justifiable, 73 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: they see it as the blueprint for how they plan 74 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: on moving forward. So what are the rest of us 75 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: going to do? I pray that this week is the 76 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: beginning of real change, changing of people's minds and belief 77 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: that they still have the power to shift our government 78 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: from turning into a full on autocratic state. We are 79 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: in so much fucking trouble. And if they just think 80 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: that it's going to be enough to just show people 81 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: what happened and not connect it to what is continually 82 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: happening since the insurrection. It's a rap. Our democracy is 83 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: a fucking rap. I am becoming more and more concerned 84 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: having serious conversations with my family about what it is 85 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: that we are going to do in order to be 86 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: safe and to keep ourselves safe, and does that look 87 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: like remaining in this country that is finding ways to 88 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: kill us every day? So I don't know. I know 89 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that I will be watching on Thursday. I know that 90 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: I will be in the tweets as this begins a 91 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: six week rollout. But I would be lying if I 92 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: said I wasn't scared that it won't be enough. 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At the end of this week the 122 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: hearings the one six Commission has finally, after thousands of interviews, 123 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: thousands of documents, subpoenas, back and forth with Republican House 124 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: members that are defying their own rules that they took 125 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: an oath to, we will begin this hearing. I don't 126 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: even know what a primetime spectacle. Who knows, but to 127 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: prep us for what we can anticipate at the end 128 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: of this week is our friend, host of Justice Matters 129 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: and MSNBC legal analyst Glenn Kirshner. Glenn, A couple of 130 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: things percolated up last week. I mean, in between multiple 131 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: mass shootings that I know that you've been covering that 132 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: I've been on TV discussing that I've just been losing 133 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: my mind over there has been movement, more movement than 134 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: we have seen and heard from the Department of Justice 135 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: since the insurrection January twenty January twenty twenty one, I 136 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: want to start with the you tweeted, and I'm a 137 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: terrible person, but you tweeted and said that it seems 138 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: as if Donald Trump is under investigation with the Department 139 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: of Justice. Why is this leaking? Why are we hearing 140 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: about this now after so many I guess well over 141 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: a year now, well over a year of relative silence 142 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: outside of the presser that Merritt Garland gave on the 143 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: year anniversary of the insurrection. So what makes you lead 144 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: to that assumption and and what do you think is happening? Yeah, 145 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: I've got an opinion on this, Danielle, And I guess 146 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: the opinions are like elbows. Everybody's got a couple, and 147 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: they're often no use to anybody else. But I'm gonna 148 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: take a stab at it because we have been waiting 149 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: and dying, and you and I have been talking every week. 150 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: When are we going to see some movement from the 151 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Department of Justice opening a criminal investigation into Donald Trump? 152 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: Not that DOJ should announce it, we get that, But 153 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: anytime we have a big old investigation going take it 154 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: from a former federal prosecutor, that information leaks out into 155 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: the public square, typically by what I call the leakers, 156 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: the lawyers and the liars. Right it comes out. It 157 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,239 Speaker 1: just comes out. But we've heard nothing, and that's frustrated 158 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: the heck out of us. Now all of a sudden, 159 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: this avalanche of information is tumbling into the public square 160 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: about dj criminally investigating Trump, and we'll talk about what 161 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: that evidence is. But I have an opinion as to 162 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: why it's coming out now. First of all, I do 163 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: think the Department of Justice has been doing a lot 164 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: behind the scenes that we haven't known about, but all 165 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's becoming very public. Well, what is 166 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: about to happen In just a few days. We are 167 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: going to see with our own eyes the evidence of 168 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's crime, the crime of his co conspirators. The 169 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: January sixth Committee is going to pull back the curtain 170 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: on Donald Trump's insurrection, and as Jamie Raskin has said, 171 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: it's going to blow the roof off the house. I 172 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: believe that. And before I go to the evidence of 173 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: why we know Donald Trump is being investigated criminally, I've 174 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: said this before, but I think it bears repeating. The 175 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: chief investigative counsel for the j six Committee, leading a 176 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: team of former federal prosecutors, is one of the best 177 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: rico prosecutors we've ever had. He also happens to be 178 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: a former colleague and a friend of mine. His name 179 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: is Tim Heafe. And let me be let me hasten 180 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: to add I have no inside information I wouldn't ask 181 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: him a question even if I could. He I saw 182 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: him give the opening statement in the biggest Rico prosecution 183 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: we ever brought in the courts of Washington, DC, and 184 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: I got justice goosebumps, And I kind of reluctantly say 185 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: that because I don't want to pump Tim's head any 186 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: bigger than it already is. He's a very good man, 187 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: but he's remarkable at putting together both the evidence of 188 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: the crimes he's prosecuting and the message the way it's delivered. 189 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: And I have every confidence that what we are going 190 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: to see beginning on June ninth will look like the 191 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: most compelling presentation of an opening statement to a jury 192 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: that anybody has ever seen. Quite frankly, I'm that confident 193 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: in the way the message is going to be delivered. Now, 194 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: the difference, the difference between how one would present to 195 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: a jury, obviously, and the presentation that we are going 196 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: to see beginning on Thursday, is different because there is 197 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: no representation or Donald Trump. This is not a court 198 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: of law. So just explain to folks how this different, 199 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: this one may differ from what we experienced with the 200 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: Mueller Report, and how this differs you know, with our 201 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: television law and order criminal you know show fantasies that 202 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: we all watch on a regular basis. Two great questions. 203 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: It differs from the Mueller Report in that it's going 204 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: to come to us largely unfiltered Bill Bark and not 205 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: block the truthful information about Donald Trump's crimes. This time, 206 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I go back and my blood pressure instantly rises when 207 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: I think about how Bill Barr lied to us about 208 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: what Bob Muller found regarding the crimes of Donald Trump. 209 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: And one of my personal heroes, Judge Reggie Walton, is 210 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: the federal judge who ruled and announced that Bill Barr 211 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: lied to us about the Mueller Report. We don't have 212 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: that problem this time. But the other way it's going 213 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: to be a challenge, I think for them to present 214 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: it to us is twelve jurors in a box or 215 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: a captive audience. They can't go anywhere. They have to 216 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: sit there and listen to us, and it doesn't matter. 217 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, they don't have to change the channel, and 218 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, no different news organizations or broadcasting it, and 219 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: they can pick and choose. So they're going to need 220 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: to present this in a way that grabs hold of us. 221 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 1: I always tell my prosecutors, when you're arguing to a 222 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: jury your opening statement, you want to grab the jurors 223 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: by the throat figuratively speaking, and you never let go. 224 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: I don't care if you're opening statement lasts an hour 225 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: or a day, and in big regal prosecutions they run many, 226 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: many hours. So their challenge is to grab hold of 227 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: us and not let the viewer go. And this team 228 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: that has been working this investigation is as adept at 229 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: delivering a message to the jury in this case the 230 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: American people, as I think any team that has ever 231 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: worked as part of a congressional investigation. So you know, 232 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: buckle up, because I think we're going to get what 233 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: we've been longing for. And then that transitions me into well, why, 234 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: all of a sudden are we hearing that Donald Trump 235 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: is being criminally investigated, Because we are hearing that all 236 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we've got information that, oh my goodness, 237 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: they're using grand jury subpoenas to investigate Rudy Giuliani, Jenna Ellis, 238 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: John Eastman, and Donald Trump's fay collector's scheme. They delivered 239 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: a grand jury subpoena to you know, mister green Bay 240 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: sweet Peter Navarro, who I'm sorry is a stone called clown. 241 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: I saw him on Ari again. He's a stone called clown. 242 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: The arguments that he makes are absurd and juvenile and specious. 243 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: But the grand Jury subpoenaed him and they directed him 244 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: to provide all evidence of communications between he and Donald Trump. 245 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: The Grand Jury is criminally investigating Donald Trump. There's no 246 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: two ways about it. Why are we all of a 247 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: sudden hearing about it? Because I believe the Department of 248 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: Justice knows precisely what the January sixth Committee is about 249 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: to unleash on the American people. And when we see 250 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: in those public hearings the evidence of Donald Trump's crimes 251 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: with our own eyes, and when we learn that there 252 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: is evidence that can prove those crimes beyond a reasonable doubt, 253 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: you know what's going to happen. We're going to explode. 254 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: There's going to be a public outcry about why has 255 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: a DJ indicted Donald Trump for these crimes that we've 256 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: just seen broadcast in prime time? And I think DJ 257 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: is trying to get ahead of that coming public outcry. 258 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: I really do so. I think they've been investigating him methodically, 259 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: perhaps slowly, and behind the scenes, But now it's all 260 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 1: going to start to come out, and I'm going to 261 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: use the O word optimistic. I'm feeling more optimistic right now. 262 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: I have to. I have to kind of separate out 263 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: the mass shootings, which drags me down to a very 264 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: dark place. And I'm happy to talk about those if 265 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 1: you want. But I'm feeling more optimistic right now than 266 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: I have in a while. So here's the thing that 267 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about right because to me, all of this 268 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: is for the public, is mostly about pr and branding 269 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: right now. For the last six weeks, unfortunately, you had 270 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: had the great displeasure of commenting on Johnny Depp and 271 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: Amber heard right. Only one time. I was forced to 272 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: go on Aaron talk about that the world had been 273 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: captivated right all over social media on this celebrity and 274 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I call it celebrity crap. That's what I will say. 275 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 1: There are too many important things going on for us 276 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: to be delving into, Oh, who's going to get hundreds 277 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 1: of millions of dollars from whom? Right when people can't 278 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: even put bread and gas in their house. At the 279 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: same time, what do you make of the sensationalism that 280 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: that trial had, that captivated people. It kept people tuned 281 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: in for six weeks. And what is it that the 282 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: hearings that we are going to see in prime time 283 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: need to do in order to have that same captivation that? 284 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Say I and I'm sorry to say it. We are 285 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a reality TV celebrity junk junked up culture, right, and 286 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: so if there is going to be any real movement here, 287 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: the people need to be spoken to as if we 288 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: are all collectively the jury. So what do you make 289 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: of what we saw with the depth and heard and 290 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: what we can anticipate in terms of how this is 291 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: going to be presented and discussed to keep people in engaged? Yeah, 292 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: so there are three things I think that captivated people, 293 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: you know, regarding the depth heard circus trial. One, we 294 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: love celebrity, we just do, and so we're always going 295 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: to be drawn to a good celebrity story. Two, when 296 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 1: those celebrities are struggling in their lives and fighting and 297 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: feuding and it's ugly and there's all kinds of salacious 298 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: stories about what one does to another, we love both 299 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: the celebrity and I'm sorry to say, Danielle, we somehow 300 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: it makes some people feel better when when rich celebrated 301 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: people struggle and suffer, so there's that added bonus to 302 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: those who are attracted to the tragedy of a celebrity 303 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: relationship going bad. And then, third, I think it's the 304 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: distraction because you know what, whatever Johnny Depp and Amber 305 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: Heard did or didn't do to one another has nothing 306 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: to do with the health and viability of our democracy 307 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: or our day to day lives, so we can plug 308 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: into it as escapism. So I think those three things 309 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: in combination is what drew people to that coverage. But 310 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, this story we're about to see beginning on 311 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: June nine, is all that, but a whole lot more. 312 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: It's got celebrity, it's got ugliness, it's got you ugly 313 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: feuds between and among people who used to be friends 314 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: and family. But it also directly impacts our lives and 315 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: the future of our democracy. So I do think it's 316 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: a challenge to present it in a way that captivates 317 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: people because I'm sorry, we need to be entertained. But 318 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: I am going to go back to I have complete 319 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: confidence in this team, both the team working as the 320 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: investigative team, the former federal prosecutors, and the team in 321 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: front of the cameras, the you know, the Jamie Raskins 322 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: and the representative Thompson's and the Cheneys, who I believe 323 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: know how to deliver the message in a way that 324 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: it's going to resonate. So right now we know that 325 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: there have been several subpoenas, right Petter Navarro, as you mentioned, 326 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: and he I don't even know why the man goes 327 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: on television. I guess to make himself look good, but 328 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: he fails. He has been subpoenaed. We know that there 329 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: are proud boys, there are still where I'm still waiting 330 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: for an investigation into Jenny Thomas. What do you make 331 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: of what we know about who has been subpoenaed? Who 332 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: is also being requested to come for this prime time 333 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: viewing to actually speak now in front of the American people, 334 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: essentially reiterating what they did in their private interviews with 335 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: the committee. Yeah, that's an interesting question. Who are we 336 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: going to see? Who will the witnesses on our TV 337 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: screens be beginning on June nine. I don't think we 338 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: have an answer to that question yet. But if I 339 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: investigate a pretty significant crime, let's say significant, something that 340 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: you know has lots of witnesses lots of evidence, lots 341 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: of damage to the victim and to public safety. I'm 342 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: a grand jury. I'll just give you a ballpark. I'm 343 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: a grand jury. One hundred people. I may only present 344 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: twenty to the jury at trial because I have to 345 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: winnow down the witnesses that will tell the story, will 346 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: present the evidence, so I can prove every element of 347 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: the charged offenses. But that won't bore the jury, won't 348 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: distract the jury, won't be straneous, won't be perhaps inconsistent 349 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: with the message I'm trying to deliver about the crime 350 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: that was committed. So that is where again, the expertise 351 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: of this team of former federal prosecutors in presenting information 352 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: in exactly that way is why we're gonna see a 353 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: very different presentation. I believe we don't know who the 354 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: witnesses will be, but think back to the first impeachment. 355 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: This is what I was thinking, because I was the 356 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: first impeachment was pretty compelling. It was pretty compelling. And 357 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: you know when you had Ambassador Marie Ivanovitch and Bill 358 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: Taylor and Fiona Hill and even that, you know, ridiculous 359 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: human being Gordon Sondlin, one of Trump's lackeys, even he 360 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: testified everybody was in the criminal loop, right right right. 361 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: That was pretty compelling. And that was the time when 362 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: we had a Congressional staff that consisted of Republicans and Democrats. 363 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: So we still got the stupid dog and pony show 364 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: by the Republicans who were questioning the witnesses. We're not 365 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: going to have that this time. This time, the entire panel, 366 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 1: the entire J six Committee, is lockstep marching toward justice, 367 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: trying to save our democracy. That's why I say we're 368 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: going to see a very different presentation, perhaps unlike anything 369 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: we've seen before. Let's remind folks too, with a couple 370 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: of minutes that we have in terms of what the 371 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: criminal charges could be that come out of this presentation. 372 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: The whole point, just to remind everybody listening, the whole 373 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: point of this investigation was to get to the bottom 374 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: of who was involved with the insurrection, who knew what when? 375 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: Was this something that was premeditated, preplay or was it 376 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: just people getting quote unquote as many of the infut 377 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: soldier insurrectionists have said that they just got caught up, right. 378 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: But what we know from the PowerPoint presentation, what we 379 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: know about phone calls back and forth to Mark Meadows. 380 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: What we know about the oath keepers having stationed people 381 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: in Virginia and different places who eventually take over all 382 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: of the other congressional buildings. This was not just a 383 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: caught up in the moment, And so that is going 384 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: to be what I believe is laid out to the people, 385 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: that this was a coordinated plan. That's what I hope 386 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: that they say still is continuing. Right. So what if 387 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: we're looking at this and the people are going to 388 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: reach a fever pitch with regard to how could all 389 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: of this criminal mountain be in front of us and 390 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: there be no indictments? What are the possible charges Glenn 391 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: that we are looking at not just for Donald Trump, 392 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: but for all of the lackeys surrounding him that allowed 393 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: this to take place. This is a criminal conspiracy, and 394 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: there is a precise law in the United States Code, 395 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: my big, ugly blue book of federal laws, the US Code, 396 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 1: is across my office. I'm tempted to run and get 397 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: it and hold it up as a prop, but I 398 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: won't do that. In that book, the United States Criminal Code, 399 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: there's a crime eighteen United States Code, Section three seventy one. 400 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: We call it shorthand a three seventy one conspiracy. It's 401 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: a conspiracy to commit offenses against or defraud the United 402 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: States of America. That is the precise federal statute that 403 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: was used by Bob Muller to indict the Russian Internet 404 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: Research Agency for interfering in our election. This is what 405 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, Mark Meadows, and a cast of thousands did. 406 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: They committed that crime three seventy one conspiracy, crimes against 407 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 1: the United States or defraud the United States. And I 408 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: can say with complete confidence and certainty they committed those 409 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: crimes because the federal judge has already found Donald Trump 410 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: committed that crime and another crime, which is a felony, 411 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: and that's obstructing an official proceeding the certification of Joe 412 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: Biden's win. Judge David Carter in California made a ruling 413 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: after an evidentiary hearing that Donald Trump and John Eastman 414 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: is one of his treasonous lawyers together committed a conspiracy 415 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: against the United States and obstructed an official proceeding. And 416 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: he found by a preponderance of the evidence that they 417 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: committed those crimes. Preponderance of the evidence is a fancy 418 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: way to say fifty one percent of the evidence support 419 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: arts the conclusion that they committed those crimes, and Danielle 420 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: to arrest somebody and indict somebody, you don't even need 421 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: fifty one percent. You only need probable cause, which is 422 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: well below the finding that Judge Carter made about how 423 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: much evidence there was that Trump and Eastman committed those crimes. So, 424 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: once you have somebody involved in a conspiracy, every other 425 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: crime that is committed by every other co conspirator, whether 426 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: known or not to the other co conspirators, as long 427 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: as it was committed during the course of the conspiracy 428 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: and in furtherance of the conspiracy, even if Donald Trump 429 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: didn't do it himself, he gets charged with it. So 430 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: there are going to be bookoo crimes. That's a legal 431 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 1: term that can be charged against Donald Trump and the others. Now, 432 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: of course, Congress is investigating for a couple of reasons, 433 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: to legislate to make sure this never happens again, and 434 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: to make criminal referrals to the Department of Justice. So, 435 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: and there was one other thing I wanted to touch on. Oh, 436 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows, for example, we just saw CNN report that 437 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 1: there are some three thousand, I think almost three thousand 438 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: texts that involve every branch of government involved in Trump 439 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: and Meadows and Eastman's conspiracy to overturn the elections results. 440 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: So I think for Mark Meadows, the only question left 441 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: is is he best characterized as Donald Trump's underboss or 442 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: consigliari because he is a martee member of this criminal conspiracy. 443 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: So I keep saying buckle up because you know, I 444 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: actually am starting to feel again like justice is coming. 445 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Last question for you because as you're playing this all 446 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: out and I'm remembering what the federal judge said, I'm 447 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: also thinking about our gutted, compromised Supreme Court. Yeah, I'm 448 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: thinking about how this if the Department of Justice begins 449 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: their paradi of indictments following the presentation by the House 450 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: won six Commission, it begins in what court I'm assuming 451 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: the DC Circuit Federal Federal DC Federal District Court. The 452 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: trial court is where the first challenge will be launched. 453 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: Then it will go up to the DC Circuit Court 454 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: of Appeals, then the Supreme Court. I mean, Glenn, I'm 455 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: going to ask you to read some tea leaves. I mean, 456 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: we have a compromise Supreme Court. We have a justice 457 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: that is sitting on there, who I believe him, along 458 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: with his wife, was working to overturn our free and 459 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: fair election. That being said, what does justice look like 460 00:31:54,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: when we are compromised? So the Supreme Court is compromised, 461 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: it's lost much of its legitimacy. And you know, they're 462 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: busying themselves going after their own law clerks to see 463 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: who might have leaked the Roe Vweight opinion when they 464 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: should be going after one of their own justices, Clarence Thomas, 465 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: and his insurrection is quite Jinny Thomas. So yes, they 466 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: are determined to take away our constitutional rights, women's right 467 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: to privacy, and I'm convinced that contraception, gay marriage, and 468 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: probably desegregation will be next, mark my words. However, on 469 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the election challenge front, the Supreme Court held strong they 470 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: could have accepted review of any number of cases when 471 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: the election results were being challenged, and Trump's lawyers lost 472 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: sixty four of sixty five federal court challenges because they 473 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: were end state court challenges because they were all bogus, 474 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: But they didn't. They didn't do that. And even more recently, 475 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Danielle when Donald Trump was trying to hide the incriminating 476 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: evidence that was in the possession of the National Archives, 477 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: hide it from the j six Committee, the Supreme Court, 478 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: all of them. But Thomas ruled no, that information goes 479 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: over to Congress, even though it is likely to be 480 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: deeply incriminating of Donald Trump. Think about it. What the 481 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court will not do, I believe, is turn our 482 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: nation into a dictatorship by corruptly ruling for Donald Trump. 483 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: Here's why I say that they're going to take our 484 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,239 Speaker 1: rights away unless we fight to retain them. Unless this 485 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: administration gets serious about increasing the number of justices the thirteen, 486 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: so it will mirror the thirteen federal jurisdictions that have 487 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,479 Speaker 1: grown over the years. It's just the right thing to 488 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: do forever, every reason. Plus it would ideologue the Court 489 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. So hopefully the administration will start to 490 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: pay attention to that in Congress will as well. They'll 491 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: take away those rights. They will give people even more 492 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: weapons of mass destruction in the Second Amendment arena. So 493 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: I am not confident with the direction of our Supreme 494 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: Court except on the election front. You know why, if 495 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: they turn our nation into a dictatorship by the legal fiat, 496 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: if these cases bubble all the way up to the 497 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. Then they are cutting off their nose to 498 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: spite their face, because one of the first things the 499 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: dictator will do is say, I'm no longer recognize Supreme 500 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: Court supremacy. I don't. In fact, I want all the 501 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: Supreme Court justices rounded up and put in prison. And 502 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court will have given the dictator the ability 503 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: to do that with impunity. So the Supreme Court, motivated 504 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: by their own self selformation ye, will not turn us 505 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 1: into a dictatorship because then their power is at an end. 506 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: Follow the money, follow the power. That's what motivates people. 507 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is not motivated to do the right thing. 508 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: They're motivated to save their own fat sorry asses. All right, 509 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to hope right that word that I say sparingly, 510 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm going to hope that you are indeed correct, because 511 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: as you are saying this, I'm thinking, oh, well, maybe 512 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: we don't relitigate loving the Virginia, because then Clarence Thomas 513 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: and Jinny's little love story would just crumble before us. 514 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: So it is really about people's own self interests and 515 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,439 Speaker 1: their ability to hold power above all else. It isn't 516 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: about the good of the country. It is about the 517 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: good of them. Well, Glenn, this is going to be 518 00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 1: a blockbuster week. I look forward to our conversation as 519 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: these hearings unfold, because I know, like me, you will 520 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: be glued and be on our television screens and on 521 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: your own show, Justice Matters, covering covering this, and keeping 522 00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: us all up to date. So I look forward to 523 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: our continued conversation, as do I in part because Danielle, 524 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: you always bring the Brooklyn and Jersey guy out, and 525 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: I love that. 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