Speaker 1: Celebrity Diva. I feel obese right now.
Speaker 2: I'm so stuffed from all the holiday parties and all
Speaker 2: the duck I've been eating around my Christmas table with
Speaker 2: my good friend's family, loved ones, and colleagues.
Speaker 1: I'm also so freaking annoyed my family. My mom won't
Speaker 1: shut the f up.
Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than the week between Christmas and New
Speaker 2: Year's Sorry, does anything happen in this week?
Speaker 1: Okay? I just put on fleece and watch reruns of Reba. Sorry.
Speaker 2: If I was a world leader, this is when I
Speaker 2: went to all my invasions because no one's paying attention.
Speaker 1: Anyway, Christmas Diva, Look, we're gonna rerun part two of
Speaker 1: our Bible episode.
Speaker 2: Because this season is about once again celebrating His wisdom, generosity, beauty,
Speaker 2: and kindness.
Speaker 1: And we want you to go into the new year
Speaker 1: with a new direction paved by him.
Speaker 2: So glory Beat to the King up on high as
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Speaker 2: This is the Bible Part two featuring CaCO and Amen.
Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door.
Speaker 2: It's all your friends, you filthy horse. Your husband's gone,
Speaker 2: and you've got books and a bottle of wine to kill.
Speaker 1: It's Hollywood, it's books, it's gossip.
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Speaker 1: Buzz me in. I brought the queer voe. Hey friend,
Speaker 1: my sister in Christ, How are you.
Speaker 2: My beautiful brother in christiandom it is so gorgeous you.
Speaker 2: I had the longest day. I was in the Sea
Speaker 2: of Galilee for like six hours. There was in soon
Speaker 2: traffic at the port. It's trying to doc you know
Speaker 2: how it is.
Speaker 1: Oh girl, I'm with some goats. Okay, they all had leprosy.
Speaker 1: But funny thing happened.
Speaker 2: Oh let me guess they didn't even want to be healed.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they all just want to walk around Jerusalem
Speaker 1: covered in leprosy.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm like, your limbs are falling off. Just accept
Speaker 2: Christ into your heart. People are insane these days.
Speaker 1: But finally I had some wine. It was water, but
Speaker 1: this like really hot guy came up and like changed
Speaker 1: it for me. This is so crazy. We have one
Speaker 1: of the strongest sisters in faith joining us today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of my favorite, favorite favorite disciples from Sunday School,
Speaker 2: Saturday School, all the schools. Really, she's a lover, she's
Speaker 2: a fighter, she's a friend, she's running for governor.
Speaker 1: She is she's a family woman. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: to our listeners, yes, this is our what we're calling
Speaker 1: now our annual Bible episode, and we are doing the
Speaker 1: Second Testament and were.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, the Second Testament colloquially known as the Bible
Speaker 2: Part two. And we have one of our favorite Christians
Speaker 2: here with us. You can hear her that gorgeous, sumptuous
Speaker 2: many people say, French voice coming into the microphone.
Speaker 1: You know her from her faithful special on the pics.
Speaker 2: Of called the Twist Dot Dot Dot. She's gorgeous. It's
Speaker 2: actually the twist dot dot question mark. She's gorgeous. Ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen, Cat Cohen, Catherine, o.
Speaker 3: Oh, I am feeling the power of gratitude. I am
Speaker 3: feeling the heart of Jesus, and I feel like He
Speaker 3: is filling me up through both of you, and I
Speaker 3: feel so full with Jesus is filling.
Speaker 2: It's so uncanny the way it comes out of you,
Speaker 2: like so realistically, you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 2: feel like I can feel the sexuality and the repression
Speaker 2: and then the re unrepressed sexuality coming back.
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who embodies Christ more than you.
Speaker 3: I try and live in his image. And that is
Speaker 3: a hymn. And that is a guy, a white guy
Speaker 3: with a beard with long hair, long hair, looks like
Speaker 3: a member of Fleet Foxes. That is what he capital
Speaker 3: h looks like. And I don't want to hear otherwise.
Speaker 3: And he can fill me up any day of the week.
Speaker 1: I love my God. He's awesome, Our God is You're
Speaker 1: an awesome God.
Speaker 3: He reigns from heaven. Number of with is umbella and
Speaker 3: love them.
Speaker 2: So let's get into a cat cat you obviously you
Speaker 2: have a background in this world.
Speaker 3: Well it's really twisted because I'm you know, my last
Speaker 3: name's Cohen. I am half Jewish, but growing up in Texas,
Speaker 3: I ended up going to Evangelical church and then camp
Speaker 3: in Arkansas, camp called Camp Ozark, the incomparable Camp Ozark,
Speaker 3: where you were encouraged to la la la la, live
Speaker 3: out loud in Christ's image. It destroyed my brain. It ruined,
Speaker 3: it ruins lives. It's the most twisted.
Speaker 2: Place, so scary.
Speaker 1: How did you come upon Camp Ozark? Was it like
Speaker 1: a hot fellow popular girl was like you gotta come
Speaker 1: this summer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool. Like in my high school, it
Speaker 3: was like a cool place to go. It's like, we're
Speaker 3: going to Ozark and like my church, I like a
Speaker 3: lot of people, A lot of kids went to Ozark.
Speaker 3: It was like I was a fifth Session. A lot
Speaker 3: of Houston kids did Fifth Session and I was actually
Speaker 3: an osage, which is like about the sexier tribe, and
Speaker 3: it was all about Fifth Session. And there was like
Speaker 3: always a theme song and the main one I remember
Speaker 3: is La La La La, Live out Loud And is
Speaker 3: it co ed? Yeah? It is extremely co ed. And
Speaker 3: every night you have divo, which is devotional in your
Speaker 3: cabin where you all say with your Bibles and everyone
Speaker 3: like you like have to cry or it's like not
Speaker 3: a good divo.
Speaker 1: Like everyone is like you're silent all reading your DeVos
Speaker 1: or do you read aloud to each other?
Speaker 3: You were reading you like read a verse and you
Speaker 3: talk it through. I remember one night sobbing on the
Speaker 3: steps of my cabin with this friend of mine because
Speaker 3: we were so worried about how our our Jewish friends,
Speaker 3: our Jewish friends and family were all going to Hell
Speaker 3: and we were really sad about that.
Speaker 1: We were just right into the Second Testament. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is so Kanye, Like the whole Second Testament is
Speaker 1: like yeah. And then the Jews did.
Speaker 3: This basically also like the second I went to college
Speaker 3: and wasn't around these people, I was like, oh wait,
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this anymore, and was somehow
Speaker 3: Marocans able to like fully snap out of it. But
Speaker 3: I was telling thee before we started recording that it
Speaker 3: was very cool to like memorize long Bible verses and
Speaker 3: like have them to say to people like And I
Speaker 3: texted a friend of mine who I'm s so very
Speaker 3: close with, who was also part of the church, and
Speaker 3: she sent me. I was like, send me the verses
Speaker 3: you remember, and it was And so I have some
Speaker 3: queued up for y'all.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's get into it.
Speaker 2: There'd be people at Ozark where you'd just be like like, hey,
Speaker 2: Brandon Luke three eleven, and he would just like say it,
Speaker 2: and they'd be like a party trick.
Speaker 3: It would be more like I can't talk to Brandon
Speaker 3: because he's making me feel impure and I and you
Speaker 3: had to wear a one piece of bathing suit.
Speaker 1: Even underclothes, like while you're sleeping.
Speaker 3: Well, the thing to wear was that you'd wear a
Speaker 3: sports bra underneath a one piece bathing suit. And then
Speaker 3: girls would get in trouble if their shorts dipped below
Speaker 3: like the hip part, and it was called hipskin, and
Speaker 3: they'd be like, no, hipskin.
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Speaker 1: Did you before we get your favorites?
Speaker 3: I have it?
Speaker 1: Did you like make out Campo's arc?
Speaker 3: No, No one wanted to kiss me for so long
Speaker 3: it was hell. I remember once I had a crush
Speaker 3: on this boy. Yeah, I know, I had I had
Speaker 3: a crush on this boy once who wore this like
Speaker 3: Maroon Arkansas hot Go razorbacks and what I I Literally
Speaker 3: it was like a movie I watched in real time.
Speaker 3: My friend tell him I'd have crushed on him, and
Speaker 3: I watched him and his friends all start pointing at
Speaker 3: me and laughing. Oh that's why I do stand up calmed.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, that's so the Taylor Swift song like have
Speaker 2: you ever like kissed somebody in a crowded room and
Speaker 2: everyone was like laughing.
Speaker 1: You except no one started clapping?
Speaker 2: Wait wait and then just but were there? Like were
Speaker 2: there was like the sluttiest girl at church camp in
Speaker 2: the sluttiest guy, Like was there an insanely impure hand
Speaker 2: jop happening underneath the rectory or whatever?
Speaker 3: This this camp was so twisted that like the coolest
Speaker 3: girl was like the most pure and like had a boyfriend,
Speaker 3: but they didn't care and they woudn't kiss until they're married.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And a lot of these a lot of these camp
Speaker 3: couples that we looked up to, it was so clear
Speaker 3: they're now in retrospect that both sides are so closeted. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and that's why they that's why they could That's why
Speaker 3: they could obey. Yeah, right, like I want nothing to
Speaker 3: do with you.
Speaker 1: The guy has like an eight pack in like is
Speaker 1: showing so much chip skin and is just like I
Speaker 1: have no Yes, of course I would love to kiss Kayley,
Speaker 1: but I won't. And it's like you're in Chelsea now
Speaker 1: absolutely just.
Speaker 2: Well you were just like me and my fiance both
Speaker 2: love musicals. We're actually both auditioning right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exact.
Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, what's your favorite verse?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is Ephesians, which is kind of
Speaker 3: like Alts which is chic for by grace, you have
Speaker 3: been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing.
Speaker 3: It is the gift of God. Ephesians two eight interesting
Speaker 3: and the classic one. Another classic one is Philippians four thirteen.
Speaker 3: I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me.
Speaker 2: Okay, so these are kind of like classic Girl Boss
Speaker 2: ones where it's just like, hell, yes, bitch.
Speaker 3: I can just totally Yeah.
Speaker 1: The New Testament to me was much where it is
Speaker 1: very Kardashians in this way, because it is very just
Speaker 1: like he shall who have give bread, will not eat
Speaker 1: the bread until we all rise in the name of Christ.
Speaker 1: And it's like basically, don't eat carbs until like you
Speaker 1: become like holy in his It's.
Speaker 2: Very it's very tech talk like to me. So for
Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, the Second Testament as
Speaker 2: we call it, is kind of like it's kind of
Speaker 2: the season too. It's kind of like the Old Testament
Speaker 2: is very like the Jews like in their whole story
Speaker 2: and then they were like, actually the Jews are over
Speaker 2: and like Jesus is God now, and so here's this
Speaker 2: like story about him and like how he's amazing and
Speaker 2: how he just like was the original like teTeX speaker
Speaker 2: and went around doing these teTeX talks like around like Jordan.
Speaker 1: And it's so Nixium the whole thing.
Speaker 3: It really, it's like, yeah, the around girls time to
Speaker 3: get branded.
Speaker 2: And I guess I'm just like okay, so there's nothing
Speaker 2: else to do, and like your boat is docked at
Speaker 2: like the port of Galilee, and you're like, well, this
Speaker 2: random guy with long hair is talking. I guess I'll
Speaker 2: go listen because what else am I doing? Like no
Speaker 2: one has a phone, so it's just like, yeah, he
Speaker 2: was kind of the only game in town. But then
Speaker 2: it's just like so much of it that he's spouting
Speaker 2: is like, you know, and not to poke holes in
Speaker 2: the Bible because I would never.
Speaker 3: Because it is and it makes sense. It is really
Speaker 3: aged well, hasn't it.
Speaker 2: It's just very like this is kind of general acid advice,
Speaker 2: just being like do unto others, like things will go
Speaker 2: well if you believe in yourself, and just like good luck.
Speaker 3: It's very love is patient, love is kind, whereas old
Speaker 3: husband's very like put blood over your door, like take
Speaker 3: a lamb penis.
Speaker 1: Yes, everyone's always like raped. And then there's nine sheep
Speaker 1: and they're boarding ship and this is just like and
Speaker 1: there was a blind man and when Jesus, okay, this
Speaker 1: part is insane to me. There's like a blind man.
Speaker 1: Jesus takes clay, puts it on the blind man's eyes
Speaker 1: and fixes his sight. It's the first lasik.
Speaker 2: Lasic was originally Clay, I mean. And then all of it,
Speaker 2: you're just like, also, they're just they run through stuff
Speaker 2: so quickly, so like yeah, then he cured a lunatic
Speaker 2: and someone with palsy, and it's just like they're not
Speaker 2: even really explaining, and so I'm like, next, I do
Speaker 2: feel like it's like you know there's many explanations, but
Speaker 2: it's like I feel like there's a lot of Munchausen's
Speaker 2: going on in the levant at this time. It's very
Speaker 2: just everyone's walking around being like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: so I've been I've had a tommy ache for eight days.
Speaker 2: And then Jesus is just like, m here's some clay,
Speaker 2: and they're like, wow, I'm better.
Speaker 1: No. I was like I get that, Like God was
Speaker 1: like Jesus is my son, blah blah blah, and that
Speaker 1: whole thing explained. And then oh, with that, I believe
Speaker 1: totally totally. But then I'm a little like, so he
Speaker 1: has so many powers, I need like a little more
Speaker 1: if you can kind of explain like background, Oh.
Speaker 3: I don't really remember. I mean I really blacked out
Speaker 3: like those years for the most part, hence me having
Speaker 3: to text my friend. But I know everyone was very
Speaker 3: obsessed with the Holy Trinity and with understanding that like
Speaker 3: God is one and like they are all things through
Speaker 3: Him who strengthens me. I remember one time being I
Speaker 3: was on this Christian ski trip and I was like
Speaker 3: I wasn't feeling moved and I wanted to feel moved,
Speaker 3: so I like we were singing this song, and then
Speaker 3: I was like I have some very visceral memory of
Speaker 3: like looking up and being like, wow, if that light
Speaker 3: turned into God's face, I'd probably cry. Right now, that's
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Did you say no?
Speaker 3: Just like in my head? I was like wow, I
Speaker 3: mean I must really believe.
Speaker 2: Wait, so you were looking for like for what we
Speaker 2: call the physical signs. You were being like mmm, actually
Speaker 2: like that guy looks like Jesus, or just like I'm
Speaker 2: seeing across right now like in a shadow.
Speaker 3: I kept just being like I don't feel these things
Speaker 3: everyone's talking about, Like how can I construct it?
Speaker 1: We're girls on the ski trip and I can't like
Speaker 1: coming back to like in the you know, bunk bed
Speaker 1: being like y'all like literally like Jesus, God came to
Speaker 1: me like on the slope, and I did.
Speaker 3: Like today like God witnessed to me on the slope,
Speaker 3: like I totally saw him. I saw through nature's beauty.
Speaker 3: I was seeing him. But then also like our favorite
Speaker 3: game quote unquote game to play at night was that
Speaker 3: we'd obvious sleeping in these big rooms like in bunk beds,
Speaker 3: and our favorite game was just to like start making
Speaker 3: sex noises and see if anyone knew who it was,
Speaker 3: so I'm like, there was also that a bunch of
Speaker 3: virgins moaning.
Speaker 1: And that is actually like the most high school game
Speaker 1: I can say where it's just like you're all such
Speaker 1: virgins and you're being like, wait no, like sex okay,
Speaker 1: sex noise competition. Okay. I want to bring up this
Speaker 1: line because I was a little confused by it. Matthew
Speaker 1: eleven sixteen, If we may.
Speaker 3: You know, I really I told you, guys, I wish
Speaker 3: I had my high school Bible which was hot, pink
Speaker 3: and black, and said my name.
Speaker 1: I love how slutty hot topic that is. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: the Bible itself, like the cover or your highlighter was
Speaker 1: like pink.
Speaker 3: No, the cover, the cover it was the Bible was
Speaker 3: actually I get you, guys. Love this a gift from
Speaker 3: my eighth grade graduation from River Rokes Baptist School and
Speaker 3: they give me a slutty pink Bible.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, wait like the cover because girls get a
Speaker 2: pink Bible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm boys got blue because gender right.
Speaker 2: And if a man hath unto him a woman and
Speaker 2: she doth commit adultery, you shall take her eye out.
Speaker 3: Do not test your husband. You are on a treadmill
Speaker 3: towards Jesus, with him side by side at all times.
Speaker 1: I was surprised that at some point they say like
Speaker 1: they're like, okay, divorce is all, but also like not encouraged.
Speaker 2: They kind of well, from what I was understanding on Wikipedia,
Speaker 2: which is some would say the modern Bible, it was
Speaker 2: kind of saying like New test was being a little
Speaker 2: bit more like, listen, we know that people are doing divorce,
Speaker 2: and they.
Speaker 3: Are doing a lot of couples are open, Like if
Speaker 3: you open, that's kind of happening now.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna kind of turn all of the like
Speaker 2: you know, you can only eat a goat with three
Speaker 2: toes or whatever thing into like a little bit more
Speaker 2: of like metaphor vibes, and everything's being like a little
Speaker 2: bit more of just like Jesus is kind of speaking
Speaker 2: broadly and just being like and if you feel that
Speaker 2: that's wrong, like that that's wrong. But ultimately his love
Speaker 2: is light, and my stone is bread and bread it's water,
Speaker 2: but water is you, and I have to go.
Speaker 3: I have to.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, God, there's a there's a passion that spoke
Speaker 2: to me as a girl boss, if I may so,
Speaker 2: it's John sixteen twenty one. We all know it. A
Speaker 2: woman when she is in travail, hath sorrow because her
Speaker 2: hour is come. But as soon as she is delivered
Speaker 2: of the child, she remembers no more the anguish for
Speaker 2: joy that a man is born into the world. And
Speaker 2: I took child here to be a metaphor for like
Speaker 2: posting to social media whatever, when when you are creating
Speaker 2: a video, it is hell and it is travail, but
Speaker 2: then when you post, it's very like, oh, I've birthed.
Speaker 3: A man that is so wise. And I think that's
Speaker 3: exactly what I felt shooting my special I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: through Christ, unto me is born.
Speaker 2: And it was travail, and you were like, my hour
Speaker 2: has come, like it's.
Speaker 3: Giving, was giving travail and it was servying my hour.
Speaker 2: But ultimately, content is a man. Content.
Speaker 3: You think content is a man, you know, because it
Speaker 3: loves me.
Speaker 1: Content to me is statue a woman.
Speaker 2: But see this is where I think it's reversed. And
Speaker 2: you're only saying that because you're like a vicious consumptive toply.
Speaker 2: But I think I think I have shared. I think
Speaker 2: you're ar because if you think about it, if you
Speaker 2: think about it like, oh, we think men colonize, the
Speaker 2: conquer whatever, but like what is the ultimate consumer? You know,
Speaker 2: the woman, the whole, the cavern, the woman take it,
Speaker 2: takes in all. And so content is just like a
Speaker 2: dick that you're taking in, whereas like to view something
Speaker 2: is inherently receptive.
Speaker 3: Right, So when I post wearing a straball yeah yes, Parney, yes, party,
Speaker 3: And when I scroll, I am spreading my legs.
Speaker 1: If a man can post, I can post two, and
Speaker 1: I can post multiple times a day.
Speaker 2: And that is Kardashian seven twelve.
Speaker 1: No, Courtney posted, I sent it to you guys a
Speaker 1: John today. Let me just pull it up, yeah, she
Speaker 1: said John for today. She posted that, yeah, we love
Speaker 1: because he first loved us, which is that's yeah, so true,
Speaker 1: literally is so true.
Speaker 2: Can I say something though about that? And this is
Speaker 2: where I really kind of as I was reading this,
Speaker 2: you know, Jesus, he's running around there's so much geography
Speaker 2: in this book.
Speaker 1: He's really not I mean, he's so van life. As
Speaker 1: you said, he looks like he's simple process.
Speaker 2: And he's just like going from town to town, lake
Speaker 2: to land. It's just endless, just been like and then
Speaker 2: after Usha Lah and Malabeth. We went to Zabaloon and
Speaker 2: everywhere his fan life ask goes. It's just him being like,
Speaker 2: oh I can save you. Oh, actually, all you need
Speaker 2: to do is love me and you'll be fine. It's
Speaker 2: just like the narcissism.
Speaker 3: It's really outrageou.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the savior complex and just like maybe he is
Speaker 2: literally the savior, but it's just like, how do you
Speaker 2: get to that point without thinking like, I'm so amazing.
Speaker 2: All you have to do is love me and your
Speaker 2: problems are solved. It's also can I say this only
Speaker 2: child syndrome?
Speaker 1: He's very only child? Yeah, yes, because it's just like
Speaker 1: when he goes to that wedding, the infamous water to
Speaker 1: wine moment. He goes to the wedding and he's like
Speaker 1: there with his entire squad and he's like, mom, sash
Speaker 1: Mary Magdalene, can we have wine? And she's like we
Speaker 1: only have water and he's like pissed that he's at
Speaker 1: this dry wedding and that it's like fine, I'm turning
Speaker 1: it all into wine. And then the mom which is
Speaker 1: also classic boy mom to like think your son is
Speaker 1: like the most amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fully asking Michael Imperioli for fifty thousand years.
Speaker 1: Stephen doesn't wait.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I've seen a couple episodes and very hotel rooming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, interesting thing to abstain from at this time.
Speaker 1: But.
Speaker 2: I'm famous contrarian. I cannot do what it's popular. However,
Speaker 2: obviously I've had the ending spoiled to me by social
Speaker 2: media and I got it, and that's really interesting.
Speaker 3: No, the thing is, I want to be clear about this,
Speaker 3: Like I literally love God. I think God is amazing,
Speaker 3: But God is not Bible me.
Speaker 1: Right, what is God? What is God to you?
Speaker 3: Like a tree nature? If I had to go there?
Speaker 3: We all believe in God?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah I did for like four weeks after reading
Speaker 2: Mariam Williamson's book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I was absolutely on board. I was like, she
Speaker 2: is the divine and she is everywhere, and she is
Speaker 2: love and she is like coming back to my authentic
Speaker 2: truth and just like I am in her, and I
Speaker 2: believe that something connects us all and like the collective
Speaker 2: consciousness is real and like I am not like an
Speaker 2: island and to myself, nor should I be. But I
Speaker 2: have forgotten about that, I guess, But gone, when did you?
Speaker 1: I guessed even did you like when did you stop
Speaker 1: like it just you went to France or something like that,
Speaker 1: did you just.
Speaker 2: Vacation or kind of well, I think, which really says
Speaker 2: like my God is actually just like travel, and so
Speaker 2: it's like and then when I actually go to France,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I forgot about needing kind of that
Speaker 2: because like ultimately God is a crutch I think. And
Speaker 2: so so it's like when you forget about the crutch
Speaker 2: and you're just living your life, like you can call
Speaker 2: that God, but like you're not actually calling it God
Speaker 2: because you're busy living.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really need God when you're like in New
Speaker 3: York in your home office, you're not nothing to look
Speaker 3: forward to. That's when you really need God.
Speaker 1: For me, I don't believe in God, but I truly
Speaker 1: do believe in Santa in this way, I guess.
Speaker 3: Like I get it is God.
Speaker 1: My boyfriend, because like I feel like he does represent
Speaker 1: like I know he's not quote unquote real, but like
Speaker 1: there is like a joyfulness and I guess that's what
Speaker 1: and he is man with the beard like because I
Speaker 1: feel like when I was young and I was like,
Speaker 1: how do I know if God? Because I went to
Speaker 1: Unitarian Sunday School where they just teach you obviously about
Speaker 1: like other religions, and it's just like more school. And
Speaker 1: so I was like, wait, no, there is a god
Speaker 1: and is like a guy with white hair and he
Speaker 1: lives on a cloud mm hmmm. And I was like
Speaker 1: looking for that sign that was real, and that kind
Speaker 1: of faded away. But I was like, Santa also has
Speaker 1: a white beard and lives, you know, in snow, and
Speaker 1: there's people these things, and like he it's sinning, naughty
Speaker 1: and nice, you know, I mean.
Speaker 2: You know there's something about the all father, you know,
Speaker 2: other religions. Obviously in Norse tradition, Odin does have a
Speaker 2: beard sometimes and he's sort of like an old man,
Speaker 2: and there is this comfort right in the masculine elder
Speaker 2: we look up to who has been there before us,
Speaker 2: who is strength, who's even like maybe feels safer than
Speaker 2: the dad figure because the grandfather is maybe not going
Speaker 2: to like fuck you in the same way because he's
Speaker 2: like a little he can't get out of bed in
Speaker 2: the same way. And so yeah, I think I think
Speaker 2: we all seek that. It's it's hard not to grandfather. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the grandfather figure versus the father versus the van but
Speaker 2: f Mariray Abraham exactly because.
Speaker 1: He is like also being like, yeah, tricks were hot,
Speaker 1: but it's like in like a cute grandpa way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something charming about like that sort of letrousness
Speaker 2: when it's over the age of sub Hugh Hefner, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, Hugh Hefner is a Santa to many.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lily, I really see the light of God within you. So,
Speaker 3: oh you do that what you will?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean there's also something about Italian and
Speaker 2: like being a childhood divorce, but also like food and
Speaker 2: Christmas and everything religious.
Speaker 3: My season it's Sagittarius, it's roast.
Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit knowing that I was baptized.
Speaker 1: I do feel a little bit saved. M just in case, literally,
Speaker 1: just in case, we're so, did you have a cat Christian?
Speaker 3: No, I had to. My mom's side is extremely Catholic,
Speaker 3: so which is different than this evangelical stuff. The evangelical
Speaker 3: stuff was truly just to be a popular girl at
Speaker 3: my school and it worked. I wasn't not popular, but
Speaker 3: I wasn't top tier would be best that b list
Speaker 3: like I was. She was at the party, but I
Speaker 3: wasn't invited because I wasn't sexual. I wasn't sexual, so
Speaker 3: there was no need to have me around.
Speaker 1: Did you collect pens.
Speaker 3: In a way?
Speaker 2: Okay, like, yeah, a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 3: I know what you're saying, but that's not that's not
Speaker 3: what it was. Okay, but I literally know exactly what
Speaker 3: you're saying.
Speaker 1: I know you get it, and I know you have
Speaker 1: the picture.
Speaker 3: Actually have a bit of a masculine energy when it
Speaker 3: comes to academia. Like my handwriting's bad so which means,
Speaker 3: of course, guy's.
Speaker 1: Girl so hot.
Speaker 2: And I think because I.
Speaker 3: Have pcos I actually have extra tistore room.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't highlighters and that's why you like whiskey exactly.
Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, anyways, yeah, I was baptized and confirmed Catholic.
Speaker 2: You are you? Oh absolutely not? No, nothing, no God no.
Speaker 2: Then you know, my parents raised me as a freelancer.
Speaker 2: They were very they were busy working their jobs and
Speaker 2: having a sort of a rotating string of nannies every year,
Speaker 2: and so I was kept away from the church, and
Speaker 2: I was taught that the church was wrong. We only
Speaker 2: went to the church to like buy a Christmas tree.
Speaker 2: The only Christian woman I had was seven a m.
Speaker 2: Mass Easter morning on the ski slope once and my slope,
Speaker 2: not y and Vermont. It was some you know, it
Speaker 2: was like my mom thought it would be this like,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of interesting, beautiful thing. But I think
Speaker 2: it was her trying to reconcile her Catholic upbringing with
Speaker 2: her like now you know atheist family, and I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Both of you guys went on like religious religious ski outings.
Speaker 2: Steen is religious. Well, you know when when you go
Speaker 2: when you go fast down a hill, you do start
Speaker 2: in field God like a little bit because you're kind
Speaker 2: of like you're at the extreme of what nature can
Speaker 2: let you do. Gravity, right, gravity is God's work.
Speaker 1: No, I mean last time skiing, I that's I like,
Speaker 1: I think I actually did start praying when we went
Speaker 1: skiing last year and for a month because I was
Speaker 1: in it was so horrible and I was like I
Speaker 1: was in ill fitting equipment. I was like the fear
Speaker 1: of God was within me. My legs hurt so much
Speaker 1: they're about to give out, and I literally was like praying.
Speaker 1: I was like, just Lily, get for this.
Speaker 3: I think you need to be a border border chick.
Speaker 1: I want to be a border chick.
Speaker 2: So bad.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I feel like that involves even better
Speaker 1: balance than I already have. Do you bored? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: you're more ski Okay. I want to bring up another
Speaker 1: girl bossy quote in here, and this is I think
Speaker 1: it's Matthew again. And when the King came in to
Speaker 1: see the guests, he saw there a man which had
Speaker 1: not on a wedding garment, and he said, unto him, friend,
Speaker 1: how earnest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?
Speaker 1: And he was speechless, which is like, I feel like
Speaker 1: literally just like when like it's about how like men
Speaker 1: don't like girls are like shocked or like you're just
Speaker 1: getting your tucks.
Speaker 2: Now, like yeah, for the very you're just getting your
Speaker 2: tucks and they're just like you can't rely on them
Speaker 2: for anything. And he's just like, what what's wrong with it?
Speaker 2: She's like, you're not gonna wear a vest. You need
Speaker 2: to wear a vest. All the grooms men are wearing
Speaker 2: a vest.
Speaker 1: You need to wear vents, you need to wear the
Speaker 1: shoes you need, like are you serious?
Speaker 2: And God, and that was God was God saying that, Lily,
Speaker 2: can I ask is your version to my version on
Speaker 2: all the all the Word of God is in read.
Speaker 1: I've actually bought the Bible on my kindle for one
Speaker 1: ninety nine.
Speaker 2: So I can't.
Speaker 3: I can't. I haven't looked at it in so long
Speaker 3: it scares me.
Speaker 1: Okayburg found dead pressed bye on like my kindle which
Speaker 1: is from twenty fifteen, and it's like so slow, and
Speaker 1: it's just like Bible one charge.
Speaker 2: It is a shib three yeah, but I mean, honestly,
Speaker 2: it's still a deal. The amount of wisdom you're getting
Speaker 2: for two dollars.
Speaker 3: I feel like I read the Bible lesson. I was
Speaker 3: more interested. There was this book my friends and I
Speaker 3: were all obsessed with called Redeeming Love. It was a
Speaker 3: novel about a prostitute who like gets to find love
Speaker 3: through Jesus by like praying and being a virgin again.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I used to want my crush to see me
Speaker 3: reading it.
Speaker 1: What was the cover? Was it like a dress? I'm
Speaker 1: a prostitute.
Speaker 3: It's a woman called red dress.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it's a because it's like there's the
Speaker 2: twin desires there where it's like you obviously want. I mean,
Speaker 2: the Bible is obviously still full of sex and the
Speaker 2: New Testament still I think sex courses through it despite
Speaker 2: that it's not maybe as obvious and negative as the
Speaker 2: Old Testament, but like it's like you wanted to be
Speaker 2: the reformed prostitute, you know what I mean, where it's
Speaker 2: like you you you still want it to be pure
Speaker 2: and you wanted this like sort of patina of naughtiness,
Speaker 2: but you wanted it like in your past like you
Speaker 2: had rejected as you can still be pure.
Speaker 3: Oh I have the Kardashians always been Christian?
Speaker 1: They've well, because they've always been. Because the thing is
Speaker 1: when they're when they like want the other sister to
Speaker 1: take them seriously, they say Bible.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: They're always just like Bible, like it just means I'm
Speaker 2: about to say something really important or Okay. So this
Speaker 2: book that you read, it's more of like a deb
Speaker 2: it's more like a Southern deb. On the cover, she's
Speaker 2: kind of worrying like a gotten with the wind dress. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was picturing like kind of like a cartoony this
Speaker 1: night and it's not like an old time you prostitute.
Speaker 2: Wait, and I have a question, Kat, did you have
Speaker 2: a dead ball? Did you have a coming out moment
Speaker 2: or not?
Speaker 3: I did attend one or two dead balls, But that
Speaker 3: was not my family's vibe.
Speaker 2: Were they were the Cotillion's Christian in nature.
Speaker 3: Or more like that was more like the A List
Speaker 3: popular or just generational wealth vibes. The A List was
Speaker 3: like cool Christian girls. Beyond that, I don't remember, did you?
Speaker 1: Like the rest were losers, so I don't remember what
Speaker 1: they were doing.
Speaker 3: I really blacked out all those years.
Speaker 1: Is this traumatic for us to kind of bring you
Speaker 1: back to No? I don't.
Speaker 3: Honestly reading those verses though, it just makes me like
Speaker 3: it does make me a little upset. I'm like, this
Speaker 3: is so fucked up. Like I think if my parents
Speaker 3: knew how intense it was, they wouldn't have wanted me
Speaker 3: to be involved.
Speaker 1: It really is crazy because you were rebelling against them
Speaker 1: with like insane Christianity. They were like, what is going
Speaker 1: on here? Like you were like original, just like TikTok
Speaker 1: maga girl, But that's effs so insane where it's just
Speaker 1: like two women shall be grinding at the mill, the
Speaker 1: one shall be taken and the other.
Speaker 2: You're like, and.
Speaker 1: What this makes no sense? One girl works in a
Speaker 1: mill and the other doesn't.
Speaker 2: That's like, sometimes life is life is like that, and
Speaker 2: I think Jesus message is very just like sometimes you're
Speaker 2: at the mill and sometimes you're not, and it's kind
Speaker 2: of like.
Speaker 3: Sometimes and sometimes you're working on a project, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot of it is very like
Speaker 2: stop complaining, which I think is generally good advice. I
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about the Last Supper for a second.
Speaker 2: Do you remember this scene in Luke where they're at
Speaker 2: the Last Supper they're having all this unleavened bread, which
Speaker 2: sounds very Are you like flat to me?
Speaker 1: Right? Is that like kind of that or is it
Speaker 1: more flat bread like Armenian Levache.
Speaker 2: I was thinking Levash as they make it on the Kardashians,
Speaker 2: which is again our really only reference for Christianity, it seems, yeah,
Speaker 2: but when they like go to our media for that
Speaker 2: one episode and Kanye is just like, oh my God,
Speaker 2: like we invented a church and then they leave. But
Speaker 2: like I I wonder if it is matsa, because I
Speaker 2: know that that's very important in religion as well. But
Speaker 2: I guess that's more Jewish. But I can't eating. I
Speaker 2: feel like in that famous painting, they're not eating matza
Speaker 2: of the Last Supper.
Speaker 1: No to me, well the whole because there's again so
Speaker 1: much bread in this book.
Speaker 2: The no I mean, yeah, I was like, where the
Speaker 2: where is the end dive salads, Like.
Speaker 3: Where's the where's the word thank you?
Speaker 2: Where's so they're having less bread? But then it is
Speaker 2: this thing where he I didn't realize this because I
Speaker 2: had sort of never read this originally when I heard
Speaker 2: this story, and by the story, I mean when I
Speaker 2: listened to the song Judas by Lady Gaga, But I
Speaker 2: realize that so like Judas the Famous Trader is like
Speaker 2: at the dinner with them, and Jesus knew, and he
Speaker 2: does this thing where he's like, but behold the hand
Speaker 2: of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. Oh,
Speaker 2: and he's so it's like he's being so clue, he's
Speaker 2: being so knives out, just be like, the murder is here.
Speaker 3: It's also giving, like real housewives. It's very they're going
Speaker 3: on a trip together and it's like, I can't believe
Speaker 3: she's at the table.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's giving, she's at the table. But then he's
Speaker 2: just like, guess who the murder is? And now it's
Speaker 2: a murder mystery dinner party and we're all just like it.
Speaker 1: So it's actually so like poly adult games. I'm having
Speaker 1: a murder mystery party.
Speaker 3: I think I would like a murder mystery party.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I was actually looking up someday look really fun,
Speaker 1: I have run.
Speaker 2: Okay, my parent used to do them, like with their
Speaker 2: wine tasting club, your parents. Honestly, I'm well, one of
Speaker 2: the guys that they're wine tasting is an actual warlock
Speaker 2: and he was always single and now just like does
Speaker 2: that just mean he was gay? And he was always
Speaker 2: wearing like an amulet, and I remember it they did
Speaker 2: and like one of their parties, I played the dead body.
Speaker 1: My god, I looked it. I booked it.
Speaker 2: I booked their role and I was like so into
Speaker 2: it and it was being such a fagot and just
Speaker 2: like all the adults were having all their wine and breeze,
Speaker 2: just like reading their note cards, just being like was it, Pamela.
Speaker 1: I mean, your parents are so eighties nive out. I
Speaker 1: feel like they would be like having a dinner party.
Speaker 1: Then someone actually would be like caught dead in the lab.
Speaker 2: I would say, Okay, a couple of other things before
Speaker 2: we go to segments. I mean, one thing that struck
Speaker 2: me about this I feel like I was a little
Speaker 2: bit starstruck reading this. I was like, you say, sir
Speaker 2: Harold or just like just like kind of the book,
Speaker 2: like you get to a like a phrase that's you know,
Speaker 2: just like a house divide it cannot stand. You're like, wow,
Speaker 2: like this is where this comes from. Yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: kind of random. You're like, wow, like this is just
Speaker 2: a quick little line in this random book. And just
Speaker 2: like everybody's been saying this for two thousand years.
Speaker 1: It is like this comedy special that it's like the
Speaker 1: office people are like, yeah, people are still.
Speaker 3: British office.
Speaker 1: Wait is a British office old testament and American office? Yes,
Speaker 1: very testament.
Speaker 2: Steve Carral is my Jesus and he can get it.
Speaker 3: When do you think Jesus is coming back?
Speaker 1: Or no, oh, that's such a good question. Okay did
Speaker 1: you used to think in like Ozark days, when did
Speaker 1: you think Jesus will come back? Like in your lifetime? No?
Speaker 3: I kind of still was like I don't think so.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it seemed a bit much. It seemed
Speaker 3: a bit much to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I what is like the destruction of the world.
Speaker 1: That's like the because I feel like that is obviously coming.
Speaker 3: Second Coming. Yeah, that is sort of concurrent with our conversation.
Speaker 1: Second Coming is here is I'm almost crazy. It's almost
Speaker 1: like maybe Jesus already came back and like left again.
Speaker 2: I could see this happening, where like there were some
Speaker 2: people who knew about it, but they kind of like
Speaker 2: and then also some people missed it and they felt like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, that was him, wasn't it He was? And
Speaker 2: he was just there for like forty five minutes and
Speaker 2: it's kind of awkward, and now everyone's kind of pretending
Speaker 2: like he's got to come back, and it's like you
Speaker 2: actually just missed it, Like that.
Speaker 3: Was it like like a celebrity wearing a wig at
Speaker 3: a restaurant and you're like I see them, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: see them.
Speaker 2: It was amazing he was there, and like he wasn't
Speaker 2: even in Nazareth, just like he was randomly just like
Speaker 2: in Vancouver for like forty five minutes out of lunch
Speaker 2: and then like that was it.
Speaker 3: Vancouver, And we're.
Speaker 1: Kind of just like, oh my god, you've been to Vancouver.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's so you.
Speaker 1: I guess I think it's like you're famous and they like,
Speaker 1: you know stuff there.
Speaker 3: It's very ship off, like hot teens there to shoot
Speaker 3: c W shows. Yeah, and they come back seven years
Speaker 3: later and there's like billionaires but they have no friends
Speaker 3: or life.
Speaker 1: They like don't know how to speak to people.
Speaker 2: And they're dressed like. I shot three seasons of the
Speaker 2: Elder Crown like and it was canceled even before we
Speaker 2: shot the first season somehow. You know, my parents had
Speaker 2: their honeymoon in Vanus No, with the Warlock. Yeah, their
Speaker 2: third Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were like white lotus sharing rooms like connecting rooms with.
Speaker 2: The Warlock Vancouver in the seventies.
Speaker 1: It was see that's I feel like Jesus did come
Speaker 1: back in the seventies in Vancouver and he visited.
Speaker 2: Your parents on their honeymoon and he was Since then,
Speaker 2: it's actually been all downhill.
Speaker 1: Because that was like the ultimate cult time and everyone
Speaker 1: was looking like him, so did.
Speaker 3: You Everyone was looking dislike him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was being very long hair, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Where did your parents' honeymoon cap?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, very quick cut.
Speaker 3: Everyone go around and say where your parents?
Speaker 1: These are icebreakers that we used at campus Ork.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, need to send y'all picks from this place.
Speaker 3: It is really like, oh, my parents, I believe honeymoon
Speaker 3: in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: Okay, fucking sexy, very classic. They were twenty five, that's
Speaker 1: so beautiful, strong today.
Speaker 3: Apparently they had.
Speaker 2: Sex night and it was awesome.
Speaker 3: No, they were just told me recently that they had
Speaker 3: like a Catholic I think they had a Catholic priest
Speaker 3: marry them, but he was hitting on one of the bridesmaids,
Speaker 3: which is incredible.
Speaker 2: Priests are gay. Here first, Lily, did you I'm.
Speaker 1: Literally trying to think. I'm like, did you guys honeymoon?
Speaker 1: I know they did a euro backpacking trip when my
Speaker 1: sister was one.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, cute.
Speaker 1: And we're so alps. But I don't I honestly will
Speaker 1: have to ask my mom, Like, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: know they just did. They had a wedding, and then
Speaker 1: I know they did like a second wedding for all
Speaker 1: my dad's like Italian relatives think, yeah, just let us.
Speaker 2: Know and you can share whatever you're comfortable with. In
Speaker 2: terms of the details of their.
Speaker 1: Celebrity.
Speaker 2: What does she eat, what does she live, how does
Speaker 2: she wears? Does she wear? How does she live? Okay,
Speaker 2: let's start with what does she wear? I think it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I think God is obviously very robes and rags. Modern
Speaker 2: Jesus like would obviously be more.
Speaker 3: Just like.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, actually, isn't it?
Speaker 2: But isn't it more eventelic guys win like really long
Speaker 2: t shirts and tight pants.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know what you mean.
Speaker 1: I like there's two, there's actually two, Jesus, is there is?
Speaker 1: There's like super poly long shirt hemp like from a weird.
Speaker 2: So many half necklaces wide, a lot of rings and bracelets,
Speaker 2: the beads. Yeah, but then I also.
Speaker 1: See this like car Heart just like double knee pants Tan.
Speaker 3: Living out of his car in Bushwick and like, yeah
Speaker 3: slay like new Girl all every night.
Speaker 1: Full fuck boy, come to Galilee with me, Beanie.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: It sounds hot.
Speaker 1: Carhart Jesus and like Etsy Jesus.
Speaker 2: I think. And then back then it was obviously like
Speaker 2: more rags and robes and everyone was just always in
Speaker 2: like the most perfectly like modest toga that was just
Speaker 2: like hanging just so like you.
Speaker 1: Put the prostitutes of sorry sex Workers of Nazareth Nazareth,
Speaker 1: like were they in this dress that s.
Speaker 2: W the Swan sex Workers of Nazareth?
Speaker 1: Oh was it? Like? Were they in like kind of
Speaker 1: like more you know, scantily clad things, do we think
Speaker 1: or was it like ankle vibes right, you're just showing
Speaker 1: ankle and wrist.
Speaker 2: I feel one shoulder. I think it's one shoulder. I
Speaker 2: also think it's just like weird subtle things that made
Speaker 2: me wouldn't see you know what I mean, just like, oh,
Speaker 2: like she has like one fern leaflet like on on
Speaker 2: the left shoulder. It's kind of hanky cody. Oh that
Speaker 2: means she takes it up the ass and like she's
Speaker 2: down or it's like the back of the dress is
Speaker 2: dirty in this bird way. We were like, oh, I
Speaker 2: know why, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but the back of the dress is
Speaker 1: like so dirty because it's like so much clay.
Speaker 2: Like everything is probably so dirty back then, and like
Speaker 2: the way.
Speaker 3: They're tying sand and all the crevices so sands constantly dusty.
Speaker 2: Okay, what does she eat?
Speaker 1: Obviously bread leon bread, bread oil, olive oil, rosemary like dips.
Speaker 3: It's very like.
Speaker 2: Toa like tura massoal like to zekee like hummus totally.
Speaker 2: I guess I never saw hummus mentioned in this book.
Speaker 1: But like, yes, do they do yogurt like a Sozeki
Speaker 1: is that happening, because I guess it is so goat.
Speaker 1: So they're like, has dairy happened?
Speaker 3: Darry's definitely happening. I feel like there's always like milking
Speaker 3: a cow is such a metaphor.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, I actually I just not this is against
Speaker 2: the rules. But I did just google hummus in the Bible,
Speaker 2: and it does say Ruth and Boas met in Bethlehem
Speaker 2: and he offered her what seems to have been an
Speaker 2: ancient form of hummus. He said, come hither and eat
Speaker 2: of the bread and dip dimorsal and vinegar. They do
Speaker 2: talk about vinegar a lot, and I think that maybe
Speaker 2: vinegar has like is like maybe an overly like a
Speaker 2: broad translation for a lot of different things, because.
Speaker 1: It could be wine. I mean, it's also probably how they.
Speaker 2: Could be apple juice, it could be olive oil, it
Speaker 2: could be maybe even hummus in this case a.
Speaker 1: Dip of vinegar, right, because.
Speaker 2: There's a thing where Jesus is on the cross, do
Speaker 2: you remember that? And like some like town's person gives
Speaker 2: him vinegar from like a leaf or something, And it's like,
Speaker 2: if I'm dying, do I want to just drink straight vinegar.
Speaker 2: Actually maybe because it's like so good for you.
Speaker 1: Right again it's Poppy Snider. Yeah, it's apple side. It's
Speaker 1: they're doing shots of apple side or vinegar for like
Speaker 1: gut health, like the dot under.
Speaker 2: Right, if you're being crucified, Like a way to boost
Speaker 2: immune system is vigar.
Speaker 1: Top ten things to eat before you get crucified. But
Speaker 1: meat wise, I was gonna say, I feel like it
Speaker 1: feels very like classic Thanksgiving, Like it's all like spit fire,
Speaker 1: not Thanksaving like Christmas, like lamb ros and like braised
Speaker 1: chicken chicken tajeans.
Speaker 3: Sounds very good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a dinner party good Yeah, winter dinner party stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, root vegetables, yes, tons of vegetables. Squash Is
Speaker 1: that too.
Speaker 2: Far, Lily? I think you're getting to autumnal like we're
Speaker 2: talking about Israel here, Like I don't know, I mean
Speaker 2: maybe they do a squash over there.
Speaker 1: Who are you in the book? Cat?
Speaker 3: Isn't there like a why who takes a bath on
Speaker 3: a roof? Or is that old testament?
Speaker 2: I'm sure there is somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so few women in the in this amazing book.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah's always like a wife. It's always just like
Speaker 2: kind of general wife vibes.
Speaker 1: Because there's so many women an old testament in this book.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so Boston movie. Everyone is like, oh,
Speaker 1: meet my brother Tom's friend Simon, and like we're going
Speaker 1: out with Matthew, Luke and John. You're like this lacrosse team.
Speaker 2: I kind of think maybe I'm married, just because obviously
Speaker 2: I'll say it. She's a liar, like she obviously was
Speaker 2: cheating on Joseph and like got pregnant and then was
Speaker 2: just like, okay, randomly immaculate conception, it's not crazy. And
Speaker 2: Joseph was like obviously like sad and couldn't get it
Speaker 2: up and was just like so cocked and was just like, wow,
Speaker 2: my pure wife got pregnant. And it's like, babe, read
Speaker 2: the room, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I've been keeping up the charade for years to protect Joseph, I.
Speaker 2: Know, to protect his fucking fragile meleygo.
Speaker 3: Men are garbage people, thank you?
Speaker 1: Yeah about the track on three twelve, Men are garbage?
Speaker 1: Oh wait? Ps I finally looked up oh wait, Houston
Speaker 1: Austin three sixteen, and I guess that was him. I
Speaker 1: thought it was like him being Christian, but it was
Speaker 1: him actually just being like, no, Austin three sixteen is
Speaker 1: I'll whip your ass, like as to another wrestler. You
Speaker 1: guys are looking so blank me talk about.
Speaker 2: I looked up John three sixteen and it was about
Speaker 2: getting into heaven, and I was like, that's interesting. I
Speaker 2: forgot Austin. I mean, Austin's not one of the books.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, so Stone called Steve Austin. No, I
Speaker 1: got a bustler it was, but like on all of
Speaker 1: his T shirts it says stone Fill sixteen. I thought
Speaker 1: always his thing was that Bible quote. But I looked
Speaker 1: it up and it was like there was another wrestler
Speaker 1: that I guess was being so Bible quote and he
Speaker 1: was like, suck this like Austin three sixteen, like I'll
Speaker 1: whip your ass.
Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, I hate I hate that.
Speaker 3: We still like it's just it's unfair to you because
Speaker 3: you did explain it again, but we still still that's okay.
Speaker 1: We're moving on.
Speaker 3: And that's what podcasting is. It's raw and it's real
Speaker 3: and for God, so love the world that he said
Speaker 3: his only begotten son et cetera, and I always you guys.
Speaker 2: I hate to do this. I have to hard out
Speaker 2: here right now. I want you guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I guess actually it turns out your fucking
Speaker 1: Jesus because you're always like parting ways and going to
Speaker 1: Galilee and like another city. I guess I'm John. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but I'm just saying that I'm the.
Speaker 3: Girl on the bath in the roof.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I give this book I don't know, two out of five.
Speaker 2: Like Floggings, I'm a little bit just like it kind
Speaker 2: of skips over stuff really quickly, but there's so much
Speaker 2: boring and stuff where it's like and then I went
Speaker 2: here and it's just like, I don't know, let's get
Speaker 2: a little more color in here.
Speaker 1: Give me one point point seven Mason Jars of Natural
Speaker 1: Wine out of five. I'm just like it repeats itself.
Speaker 1: It's confusing, but it makes me feel like I should
Speaker 1: understand it, so it makes me feel stupid, which I
Speaker 1: don't like. Kat, What's you're reading? Like?
Speaker 3: Seven seven Hemp Friendship Bracelets past amongst.
Speaker 1: The girls just braiding each other.
Speaker 3: Christians love love, love to wear lots of bracelets and necklaces.
Speaker 2: So true, Kat, You've given us so much wisdom today.
Speaker 1: This is.
Speaker 2: Your past.
Speaker 3: You guys actually read the book.
Speaker 2: I feel the book.
Speaker 3: I try and live the book. But I'll keep praying
Speaker 3: about it, and I'll pray for y'all tonight, and thank you.
Speaker 2: I'll pray for you too, Okay, praying for you both
Speaker 2: honestly as I make sex noises in my.
Speaker 3: Bunk murder dinner, murder dinner.
Speaker 2: At murder dinner. I'm sure I'm not going to ask
Speaker 2: you where people can find you, because that's honestly the
Speaker 2: dumbest thing anyone could ask. It's just like they can look.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get on TikTok are y'all on tick.
Speaker 2: That's something I can do at my age.
Speaker 1: I am to browse other Christian pages.
Speaker 3: Girl defined yeah you know, but we do have to
Speaker 3: talk about that in person.
Speaker 2: Next week we will, Okay, you guys, I am running.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 3: I love you in his name and his son set
Speaker 3: the file in his name.
Speaker 1: Club kids, best praise be he'alv have a blessed day.
Speaker 3: Love y'all.
Speaker 1: Bye, thrown on back. This Benjage episode was presented by
Speaker 1: Prolog Projects, edited by Benjamin Frish, with that a total
Speaker 1: support from Andrew Parsons, Percia Berlin, Leon, Madeline Kaplin, Narlene.
Speaker 1: Isn't that okay? Well, you know the names are. Current
Speaker 1: producers are Darby Masters, supervising producers of Huzza Far. Executive
Speaker 1: producer is Christine Everett. But you know it's been the
Speaker 1: same the whole time. Artwork by Teddy Blanks, themes on
Speaker 1: by Steve Phillips Horse Some things don't change, Never change.