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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Week four of Matt's season is here, and I gotta say, um,

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Speaker 1: the least impressive episode so far, Ben, how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about it? Except for you? Ben, you were the

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Speaker 1: only one. You were the only shining moment that my

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Speaker 1: eyes were glued to the TV for. You have to

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Speaker 1: say that because you're my co host. I do have

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Speaker 1: to say that. But it was so nice to see

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Speaker 1: your face. You looked great. Thank you asked, well, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you overall. Uh this before we get

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Speaker 1: into the breakdown in the rest of the episode. This time,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to describe this episode. Really, this season so

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Speaker 1: far overly dramatic, not enough stories worth following. Because every

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Speaker 1: story we start to pick up on and start to

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Speaker 1: hear and I start to get intrigued by, they disappear

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Speaker 1: for weeks, like Abigails, Like where's Abigail been? Like it's

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Speaker 1: it's just frustrating. So we're gonna break it down here

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Speaker 1: over the episode. It's gonna be a good podcast because

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of hot like hot headlines to

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Speaker 1: talk about. We also we'll talk about this episode a

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Speaker 1: little behind the scenes that I got to see. Uh.

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Speaker 1: But we also have a few friends that will be

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Speaker 1: joining us helping us break down this episode. Yes, that's right,

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Speaker 1: Katie Morton is here. Hey Katie, Hey guys, thank you.

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Speaker 1: What did you overall think of the episode? Uh? Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I do agree with Ben. I'm like, wait, I'm not following,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, new people. I was

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Speaker 1: already not able to follow a story. Where's Abigail She's

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Speaker 1: been hiding? I agree with that. I did think the

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Speaker 1: episode was like it felt like it was going to

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Speaker 1: get good two times, Like I felt like I was

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Speaker 1: getting somewhere, and then all of a sudden put itself off. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not wrong, I I would agree with you. Well,

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Speaker 1: we do have Katie Morton on to break down the

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Speaker 1: episode and catch up on her life. Also, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: keep Katie around, uh to talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: recent splits in Bachelor Nation. Uh. You know, Katie is

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Speaker 1: familiar with the public breakup coming from the show. Any

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Speaker 1: advice that she has for these couples. But before we do, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: we have a live virtual event, uh. After we announced

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Speaker 1: it last week, all a hundred promo codes that event

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Speaker 1: have been used, so those are gone. We got over

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Speaker 1: a hundred people coming, but there's still meet and greet

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Speaker 1: packages available, which will include a copy of my book

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Speaker 1: that releases on February second. It's a big deal to me.

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Speaker 1: So if you've listened to the podcast before, you've already

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Speaker 1: been supportive of Ashley and I, but would be really awesome,

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Speaker 1: really really really awesome if you go out in pre

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Speaker 1: this in the show notes so it's easy to click on.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna be more information coming out very soon about

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Speaker 1: this event, so tune in. But Ashley and I really

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Speaker 1: want to see you there. We definitely definitely do. Alright, Well, guys,

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Speaker 1: it should we start from the very beginning. Do you

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Speaker 1: a little bit hyper dramatic. Yes, I do believe it's

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Speaker 1: so there's like no climax to the drama because you

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Speaker 1: It's I've never even thought about that, but it's true.

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Speaker 1: that sounds like awesome and like making me feel better

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00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: about it. The other one is Maggie. I mean that's

427
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: probably what I'm a Maggie fan is because you know,

428
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 1: she gets stuck in this pond and a pumpkin and

429
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: everybody's moving on to the race without her, and she's

430
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: just giggling and laughing and like trying. She's not giving up,

431
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: but she just can't figure it out. And like, to me,

432
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 1: that was just like a really sweet uh like thing

433
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: for her to be doing because I could tell them.

434
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Matt thought it was funny, but I also found it

435
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 1: like endearing. That's interesting then, because I know that you

436
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: have been talking about Abigail and Maggie a lot over

437
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: the past couple episodes, So that's probably branching back from well,

438
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: not just the good stuff that we see on TV,

439
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: but just because you felt like connected to them in

440
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: real life, as I felt connected to Rachel in real life.

441
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: And I wonder if our vibes from them in real

442
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: life will transfer transfer thank you. Yeah, I mean I

443
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,239
Speaker 1: think so. I hope so, like I hope because these

444
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: girls are really nice to me, right, I'm a newcomer.

445
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Nobody wants me there, like they want to see Matt,

446
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: they love seeing Harrison, and like I'm nervous I show up.

447
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell talk him through the date and whatever.

448
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: And like those girls just stood out as being super sweet. No,

449
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: none of them were like mean to me directly, but

450
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: like some were harder to like keep on track, like

451
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: and not keep cheating and skipping events because that's just

452
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: frustrating because here I am trying to get this thing

453
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: to be a fun date and when people start cheating,

454
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: it just gets too chaotic. I got frustrated. Um and

455
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: so those girls like they were just nice and they

456
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: that stood out to me who was cheating? I'm just

457
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: who was cheating? I feel like, I mean, I feel

458
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: like all of them were. I know Victoria was. We

459
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: knew Anna was because she said I stole Burtney's. Yeah,

460
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 1: so like yeah, so like you know, they they're admitting

461
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: to it. Like everybody felt like they were cheating. Um

462
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: and and it was like a big pile on. But

463
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: the uh, the the one that like was very clear

464
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: as Victorians, Like I couldn't keep I mean at that point,

465
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: I like looked around me afterwards, I was like, what's

466
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 1: up with that? Like she just like didn't want to

467
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: do anything I asked, like I was trying, and it

468
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,479
Speaker 1: was just so hard to keep her on track. Okay,

469
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: remember how you I told you about Victoria. So you

470
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 1: guys Ben and I you asked us a couple of

471
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: months ago when the last time we actually saw each

472
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: other was and we had to lie. Um. We actually

473
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: saw each other over at Emicole and he got there

474
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 1: like a day or two before I left. I brought

475
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: I brought him whiskey because I was out of quarantine.

476
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: He was it Um and we also talked about the girls.

477
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: And when I said, man, there's this crazy girl named

478
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: Victoria who like started with me, he was like, you know,

479
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 1: he was like, oh, man, like I'll watch out for her,

480
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: and she ends up being on your date, Ben, And

481
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 1: then when you called me afterward and you're like, I

482
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: met that Victoria girl. She's wild. I don't know how

483
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,640
Speaker 1: she could be real. Why did you say that? You

484
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: you couldn't believe she was real? As as I also felt, well,

485
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: one of them was because you had told me like, hey,

486
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: this girl was like was so hard on me, and

487
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: so I kind of had my eye out for um.

488
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, it was just like the part

489
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: where it's like, okay, guys, I'm trying here to put

490
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: on a date for you all. I'm gonna try my best,

491
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: and like some of them understood that and they went

492
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 1: along with it, and then like she didn't. And you know,

493
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: my date though, was different than yours, Like I didn't

494
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of personal interactions, so like I didn't

495
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: get to see their personalities, but I was keeping an

496
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: extra I think I just had an extra eye on

497
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: her because of your experience, where I was like, what's

498
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: going on? Here like, I gotta figure this one out, gotcha? Gotcha?

499
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: All right? Well, the nighttime portion of that date, we

500
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 1: see Anna get time with Matt and there's not a

501
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: lot of substance there. She truly didn't even know what

502
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: to say. He was like, well, if you had five

503
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: more minutes with me, like what do you want to

504
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: talk about? And she was like um um. But meanwhile

505
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: Bertnie was looking at her out on the wings, and

506
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: then we see Anna and Victoria have a little pow

507
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: wow again because they love each other. Now, Anna is

508
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: strictly the drama at this point, because, first of all,

509
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: all that we've said tonight is like Anna couldn't even

510
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,479
Speaker 1: talk to Matt, so so why why She's had plenty

511
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: ample of time to repair to talk to Matt And

512
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: all she's talked about is Brittany or talked with Victoria

513
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: or she cheated. First of all, we also talked about

514
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: how Anna didn't even know confirmed information on Brittany before

515
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: spreading a rumor. And then all of a sudden, she's

516
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: hiding acorns from Brittany when he's just trying to regular squirrel.

517
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Now vendetta against Brittany. You can't stand her and she's

518
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: just making up those lives, Brittany, and then can't. That's

519
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: it's like, that's the thing when you put your energy

520
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: into some she's putting all her energy into the wrong

521
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,719
Speaker 1: thing to the point where she couldn't put any energy

522
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: into the right thing. One other thing we have to

523
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: mention a conversation is that is the way that Anna

524
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: speaks when she says juicy things. She just looks like

525
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: she she has to have the delivery of the most

526
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: dramatic person ever, you know, with her mouth is like,

527
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: let's just say that she's getting paid to do things

528
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: with men. I can make fun of her their right.

529
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I did notice. I did take new on

530
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: the delivery and I said, what's happening? It's like a comedy.

531
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: And then I did say to myself, like is this

532
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: real life? I'm not sure what am I watching at

533
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: the moment. It was it's definitely a show. We're definitely

534
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: watching a show. We came to watch something entertaining. It's entertaining,

535
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: all right, Well, but you both have been okay, so

536
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: you both have been on the Bachelor, Uh, in the house.

537
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: You've also all, you know, been surrounded by girls, and like,

538
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: is this common stuff, like, is this what goes on

539
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: in the house? Is all of this as you watch

540
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: this like completely new to you or you going, yeah,

541
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I had moments of this during my season. I feel

542
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: like they were pulling it out of us in our season.

543
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: They were like, gosh, Darnett, we didn't get traumatic enough

544
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: girls Like I feel like Demi was the Victoria and

545
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: Demi that that would probably that's very fun sim yes,

546
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: it is um I. I. We literally there was one girl,

547
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, we all just couldn't stand one girl. But

548
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: at the same time, it wasn't like we were a constant.

549
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: It wasn't like we were bullying her by any means.

550
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 1: We were just like, man, she's not fun to hang

551
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: around with. Yeah, so then you go your own way

552
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: and you do your own thing. That's pretty n Yeah.

553
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: So this this is all new, This is all new,

554
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: Like this is stuff that we don't see. I didn't

555
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: see it in my house, Like we never had like

556
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: one person that like we had people in the house

557
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: that were like, what's going on here, like, but they

558
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: would leave pretty quickly. This just seems to be lingering,

559
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: Like this thing is lingering on and on through episode

560
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: an episode and it's gonna be back next week. It's

561
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: just a lingering bowling that we need to stop on

562
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: this season because we gotta get more into Matt James

563
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: and the great Girls. Uh. We still have the last

564
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: part of the episode to break down. We're going to

565
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: do that with Katie involved. But again, before we do,

566
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: let's take a break. All right, So let's go into

567
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: the one on one of this episode. It's with Michelle,

568
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: she's a new girl. Of course, the girls can't stand

569
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: the fact that the new girl got time. Whatever. Whatever. Um,

570
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: they have a scavenger hunt. Man, this is like a

571
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: big activity date activity episode. Um. They go in the

572
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: hot air balloon, which was sweet because that's where they

573
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: had their first kiss, and I felt it they talked

574
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: about they talked a little bit about race in America. Um,

575
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: was there anything that you guys wanted to mention about that?

576
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: I think that and I'm sure as we don't usually

577
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: see all the conversations, I think that their conversation they

578
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: kept it important but light, which is what you want

579
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: to date. Like that conversation, it's hard to not go

580
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: really deep and it can get dark, and I feel

581
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: like they had a really good balance in that conversation. Yes,

582
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: I also like the way that she was talking about

583
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: how those situations play into her being a teacher and

584
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: her having conversations like that and having heart towards her students,

585
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: And it was totally relatable for him who was with

586
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: kids all the time. Because ABC food to right, I

587
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: think that I think that them bonding over kids was

588
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: going to be a big thing ever since they said

589
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: how many do you want? On account of three? And

590
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: they both said three and they both like, really, you

591
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: felt a spark there between that. It's, Uh, it's something

592
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: I've been telling all season. For me, it's very obvious

593
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: when Matt likes somebody. It's very obvious I think when

594
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: you when he's questioning if he likes somebody, like this

595
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: was very telling to me that he's really into Michelle. Like,

596
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's into that many of these girls yet.

597
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I think he's getting there. I think he's going to

598
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: even know them still. But I think maybe just because

599
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: Matt is being Matt and he's being an authentic like,

600
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: you can really see when he's into somebody, and it's

601
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: this was a date where I go, this girl, this

602
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: girl is gonna go a long ways because I think

603
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: they have something special. I completely agree. Uh. Then we

604
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: go into the second group date. This is where Brittany

605
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: tells Katie and Ryan that there's like this escort rumor

606
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: going around and then she's really hurt by it. And

607
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say there was really a huge they like

608
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: fight for love again and like again, I'm just like, wow,

609
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: so many dates are so many dates on this episode

610
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: are like not helping me get to know these girls

611
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: or the connection they have with Matt kind of like

612
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,959
Speaker 1: years I love you, but you know you know what

613
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: I mean? Um, this this is another group date where

614
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: like they're fighting in a ring but it tells us nothing.

615
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: And plus like how many times are we going to fight,

616
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: like physically fight during group dates? Like it's I'm so over.

617
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: This is the second second season in a row. No.

618
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: Also my season we did the Vietnam fight date. Yeah,

619
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: and they had to cut it short because it was

620
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: too It was so bad. I mean, these girls were

621
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: getting knocked around. This is not something like what why

622
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't get it? Yeah, I mean I see how,

623
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: it seems like fun whatever, Like I was having a

624
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: great time on our fight date, but the majority of

625
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: the girls were scared and also cut off anyway, and

626
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: I thought they would have learned from ours. Then they

627
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: tried it the next season, and they're trying it this season.

628
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: And not only are they the next season they were like,

629
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like color fights or something. Now this season

630
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: is like straight up punch each other in the face,

631
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: like that is if you had to cancel it two

632
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: seasons before. What do we do? I don't know. And

633
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,760
Speaker 1: then Matt Stephen says this silly line like it's amazing

634
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: how they're fighting for love and he cancels it. He's

635
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: the one that's like, I couldn't take it anymore. Yeah, anyway,

636
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: So we get nothing from that, But then we do

637
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: go to the nighttime portion, and this is where like

638
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Katie is hearing about the escort rumors and saying like

639
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Speaker 1: I need to stand up for this woman, and she

640
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: she walks out, And I love the I love the

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Speaker 1: fact that I think that Katie like made this move

642
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: completely on her own, because you see, when she approaches Matt,

643
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: he's surrounded by a ton of producers, so I don't

644
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: think they were expecting her, and they moved away, Yeah

645
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: they were attracted, and she was like, sorry, am I

646
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: interrupting continues to do her thing like, didn't back up.

647
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: She just kept going, so sorry, I know you're I

648
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: know you're having a long night, like acknowledged his long night.

649
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Went straight to the point, and those producers were like,

650
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: gotta go, gotta go, gotta go, well because it I mean,

651
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: this is it Like typically on this show, and I

652
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: think we said it last season, when you have the

653
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: person that tells the Bachelor or the Bachelor at anything,

654
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: it's usually doesn't go well, right like that is never

655
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: the person that sticks around a long time. But with Katie,

656
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: there's a unique difference where she's finally hit it like, gone,

657
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: I've this is going too far. This is no longer healthy,

658
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: it's mean. And so she's not saying I don't like

659
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: this person or this person isn't here for the right reasons. No,

660
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: the difference with Katie because I can tell now that

661
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: fans are gonna be there, but you say that it's

662
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: not the great thing to go and tell the batchelor stuff. No,

663
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: it's different with Katie because she's going to Matt and saying, no,

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Speaker 1: this isn't me being caddy, this isn't me just not

665
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: liking somebody. This isn't me saying they're not here for

666
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 1: the right reasons. It's me saying there is some mean

667
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: things going on the house that are hurting humans. You

668
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: need to know about it, Matt, because it's no longer

669
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Speaker 1: a good environment to be in, and all is that

670
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: they can hurt their like their job exactly. Yes, that's

671
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say, because an escort being that

672
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: word being attached to your name. When you google this

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00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: girl's name, it's gonna come up with articles now that

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00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: says like suspected of being escort in Bachelor episode and

675
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: then you're gonna read the articles to see that that

676
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 1: she's not actually an escort, but just like the name association.

677
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: It's tough, yea to close out this whole episode because

678
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: we can all agree there's a lot of boyling, there's

679
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: a lot of mean that's going on, there's a lot

680
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: of name calling. Um. Outside of that, this episode wasn't great.

681
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: We got we gotta rank this episode like we do

682
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: every week. Um, so Katie will start with you. We

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00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: ranked this on A from A to f Uh. What

684
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: was your ranking of this episode? A C plus fair enough?

685
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: That would be the lowest episode ranking that we've given

686
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: this year so far. Also, Katie, just for fun, we

687
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: do this every week as well. What is your time?

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00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: Who are your top three? Uh? Well, it's hard to

689
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,959
Speaker 1: keep going because I don't know what conversations they've been having,

690
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: but it was Abigail at the beginning. Um, I like

691
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: Brie and I'm gonna pull in Michelle. Interesting. All right,

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00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Ashley rank this episode? Okay, this is a C minus

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00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm being generous. Wow, Okay, top three.

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Speaker 1: Top three is Rachel Bree, and um, I want to

695
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: go with Abigail, but I may move, but Michelle and

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00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:53,439
Speaker 1: Abigail now have like a competition for that third spot. Well,

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00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give this episode, uh a D plus because

698
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: we had to see me on it, um, which brings

699
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: it down a bit and absolutely ridiculous. And then I'm

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00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: gonna say my top three Abigail, Michelle Bree. Rachel's gonna

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00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: fall out of the top three this week, mostly because

702
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: like I don't have a lot to base that on anymore.

703
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Like Rachel just is is there right now. I think

704
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: she's gonna be there for a while. But Katie's gonna

705
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: actually go for Rachel's gonna go five. I did that

706
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: just to give a perspective of where I think Katie's

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00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Katie right now. I think

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00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: she's doing some graz that we like Katie as viewers,

709
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: and I think Matt likes Kitty as a person, but

710
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he feels a romantic chemistry with her.

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00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: What do you think, zoned? But it just seems to

712
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: happen like that the world. Well, the final note of

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00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: episode is I thought this blooper is great because I

714
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: was there for it, and so I just selfishly want

715
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: to mention that Maggie in the pond, in the pumpkins

716
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: spinning around in circles and then her time with Matt

717
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: was just fantastic. I think Maggie is one of the

718
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: sweetest people to ever be on the franchise. I hope

719
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: we get to see and hear more of her and

720
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: from her. Um. I think it's important, But if we don't,

721
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: I love this blooper because it was so real, so

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00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: true that poor girl was out in the middle there

723
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: for a long time, and then she also just is

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00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 1: a is a big fan of Matt. Well, uh, Katie,

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00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about you, Ashley, take it away. All right, well, Katie,

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00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: you were in US Weekly this week because yeah, because

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00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: you wow, because you confirmed that you're dating someone. I

728
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: can't believe this. What do you mean you to check

729
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: the news? I mean like US Weekly? Why do I

730
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: not know these things? Um? Well okay, so, like, how

731
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: does everyone else know before me? Well? Okay, okay, fine, okay, fine.

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00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: I kind of lead you into us a situation. You

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Speaker 1: confirmed that you're dating what a year after you're you're

734
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: split with Chris? But they did they didn't talk about

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00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: specifically who you were dating. So, um, are you comfortable

736
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: talking about who you're dating? Okay? What? Oh you're looking

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00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: at him? You're looking over at him? No, someone's laughing

738
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 1: at me someone. Yeah, I'm being laughed at? Um who? Okay?

739
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: So US Weekly confirmed that I am now dating after

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Speaker 1: Katie and Kris Bukowski split. This is what I just

741
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: recently peopled. Um, Yes, I'm definitely dating. Okay, I'm definitely

742
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: dating someone. Okay, Yes, does this person like live in

743
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: the US? No? Did this person slide into your d

744
00:40:55,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: m s before you ever met Kris Bukowski in Paradise? Nope,

745
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: they didn't side into my d m S before I

746
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: met Krispikowski because I met this person in person before

747
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: I met Krispykowk No way. Yeah, so let's clear this up.

748
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: You met this person, you're like, hey, interesting, I'm into it.

749
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: You go on Paradise, you met Kris Bukowski. It's like, hey,

750
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 1: I didn't say I did not stay interesting. I'm into it. Well,

751
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: like a decent human, let's say that. Okay, good, Okay,

752
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to human. Okay, well, perfect, And then

753
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you reconnect afterwards and it's like, hey, maybe this could

754
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: be something like after the fact and now you're dating. Hey,

755
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: we're just happy for you. That's a big deal. Thank

756
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: you guys so much. Yeah, I met this person randomly

757
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: on the street, and then a year and I have

758
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: some change after Paradise, I re met this person, yes,

759
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: through d MS Ashley, kind of like you've definitely heard

760
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: something right and wherever, and then yeah, and it's a

761
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: it's a going you met randomly on the street. Yeah,

762
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: it's actually true, it's actually you know what. And it

763
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: was a street I'm literally never on unless it's for

764
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: something Bachelor. So it was like the day after I

765
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: filmed my Paradise intro and I was at the Mandreal

766
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: because I feel like everyone always going to this Mandreal

767
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: to like watch yeah, like a Hannah b episode or something.

768
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: And I was going to have dinner at Harriett's rooftop

769
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, I literally walked out of the Mandren and

770
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: this person was passing me on the street. Did you

771
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: talk to this person on the street? Yes, I did

772
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: for like a second, literally like two minutes. And maybe

773
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: then this person months later ends up going into your

774
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: d MS and saying, hey, we met on the street.

775
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: A year and a half later or something, well, yeah,

776
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: after we met on the street, this person said how

777
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: was the rest of your day? And I said great?

778
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 1: And then a year and a half later, this person

779
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: thought I was where he was and asked me to

780
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: go to dinner. Because my dating app had no location

781
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: services on it, so it said I was pretty much anywhere,

782
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: so he thought I was where he was asked me

783
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: if I was around and I said I'm not. And

784
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: then that's how it all started. Well, this is quite

785
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: the story. It's quite the story. Once it's fully confirmed,

786
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: if it's ever confirmed, maybe I'll tell some more. I'm sorry,

787
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I have one more. Yeah, I gotta ask you more. Question,

788
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: did you start following him on Instagram that the minute

789
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: that you saw him on the street. Uh? Yeah, I

790
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: think I did, but I think I didn't, Like I'm

791
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: not that stingy like following and then all of a sudden,

792
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: like I do, like big cleanouts, I do big cleanouts,

793
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: but he was never cleaned out. But like I never

794
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: also he I never really saw him again because he

795
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: never posts on Instagram, so then I never saw him again.

796
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some sleothing. I'm gonna go into Instagram,

797
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: find people that never post on Instagram, and then I'll

798
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: connect you with them. Uh, Katie, before you go here,

799
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: Obviously we will talk about it in just a second.

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00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: But Claire and Dale has recently publicly broken up. We

801
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: talked about it on our special episode. You have gone

802
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: through a public breakup in this Bachelor world. Any advice

803
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: for Claire right now? Oh, gosh, find the best friend

804
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: and stick with them because it's it is tough, but

805
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: you're going to see it through and ultimately if it

806
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: wasn't unto be gosh, I don't want to say something

807
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: so cliche because she's probably gonna read that in any

808
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: quote you could ever find in Pendra but like find

809
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: someone's solid and stick with them until you see it

810
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: through essentially, and really just I know it's quarantine, but

811
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: I get your quarantine, buddy, and hunker down. Yeah. Yeah, well,

812
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: because yeah, me and Demi really leaned on each other

813
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,479
Speaker 1: during that time in our lives, and I really would

814
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: say that that helps so much, especially because like I know,

815
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: she's really close with Michelle Money. I think I would say,

816
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: like someone who's in bachelor World that she's really close with,

817
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: like someone who actually understands a little bit of it,

818
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: even though they might not have been bachelorette. Then I'm like,

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00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: that's the best. Well, Katie Morton, you're the best. Thanks

820
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: for coming on. Thanks for breaking in the episode with us. Uh.

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00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: This was not an easy episode to watch, and you

822
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: watched it for the almost samest podcast. We wish you

823
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: the best in your love story that's currently unfolding. We

824
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 1: hope to hear about it more soon, uh and hopefully

825
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: come on the podcast to talk about it for the

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00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: very first time. That'd be really nice of you. Hey,

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00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: Katie Orton, thank you so much. Yekating so much by

828
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: Bachelorette Claire Crawley breaks her silence after Dale Moss split

829
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Speaker 1: and nout. Actually, before we dive into that, I think

830
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: it's fair for you to update all of the listeners

831
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: if they haven't on the recent events that have happened

832
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: in this relationship. Rumors are swirling, things are being said

833
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: because we didn't. It happened after our kind of special episode.

834
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: So she posted that she was made aware of a

835
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: quote mutual statement the same time as all of Bachelor

836
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: Nation when Dale posted that breakup post what was it

837
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: on Tuesday? So yeah, it obviously wasn't mutual. Um Claire

838
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: said that it's been a hell of a year. Speaking

839
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: for herself, her intentions with this relationship have always been

840
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: very clear. She says she's totally crushed. She said this

841
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: is not what she expected or hoping for. She's still

842
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: trying to process it. Um. Basically, this post, it just

843
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: was kind of savage to me, and I loved it.

844
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, he just blindsided her, posted about

845
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: the breakup without letting her know he was going to

846
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: so rude. It's so rude in so many ways now

847
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder And obviously the next headline is

848
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Dale Moss mystery Woman revealed following accusations he cheated on

849
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: Bachelor Claire Crawley. If you remember, Uh, there's a headline

850
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: right after they kind of went public that he was

851
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: seen in New York with women. And then we kind

852
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: of said, hey, these both these women have boyfriends or

853
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 1: ones married, Like, I don't think there's anything going on there.

854
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: We kind of gave him the benefit of the doubt. Well,

855
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: now more are kind of coming out, uh talking about this.

856
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: Not only is this statement and that she didn't even

857
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: know about it, so just like it just fires me

858
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: up that he would do that too, me too. There's

859
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: now apparently he responded to being to blindsiding her and

860
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 1: said this didn't come out of nowhere. Was like, yeah, duh,

861
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: you guys were broken up, but you posted about it

862
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: without her knowing that you were going to make it public.

863
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember the days when we were like

864
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: going through this and like that I was going through

865
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: a breakup and we were talking about this thing, and

866
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: it was I mean, yeah, we were barely speaking if

867
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 1: at all. At the time. We were done. All right,

868
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: we're broken up, we had moved on, we're doing other things.

869
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: But when it came to like talking about it publicly,

870
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't something we did quickly because we both needed

871
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: time to like process and heal, you know, kind of

872
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 1: like order reorder our lives. And the second was like

873
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not ready to respond to this publicly yet,

874
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: like we don't need to, and we both worked together

875
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: on are you ready? Yes? Am I ready? Yes? Okay,

876
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: now let's do it like it was. It was a

877
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: very civil thing. It wasn't easy, like I didn't enjoy

878
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: talking to her about it, but like it was a

879
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: civil thing we did because it's respectful and it's just right.

880
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: And this this is the thing that fires me up.

881
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 1: Actually you can go on Instagram and talk about all

882
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: these things and he's a great dude, and then this

883
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: is a sign that's like how selfish can you be?

884
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I completely agree, and like we don't want to perpetuate

885
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 1: rumors that we have no confirmation on. And of course

886
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: we won't UM ever probably get confirmation that he was

887
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: cheating on Claire, but we will mention that there was

888
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: this woman, that it was his real estate agent, that

889
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: whenever he was in New York without Claire, he seemed

890
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: to always be hanging out with Um and Claire was

891
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: insecure about this friendship relationship whatever. The entire time they

892
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: were together um and Claire would always reassure Claire that

893
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: it was just nothing um. But multiple people say that

894
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: they saw the two of them kind of just parading

895
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: around New York whenever Claire was around, and whenever Claire

896
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 1: did confront him about this, he would always deny it. UM.

897
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: So we're not saying that he did or didn't, but

898
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's definitely some I mean, that's just like

899
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: one of those things. It's like you don't hang out

900
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: with a beautiful single girl when you're engaged, and you

901
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 1: don't run around with them when your fiance is not around.

902
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: I just like one of those things that like I

903
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: it's the age old. Can you be friends with like

904
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: somebody of the opposite sex when you're in a relationship, Yes,

905
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: you can, but only to a certain degree. Like of

906
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: course I have guy friends, but like I also wouldn't

907
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: be hanging out with them without Jared, like all the

908
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: time when I'm in a public relationship, fresh engagement. I

909
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: don't know, you know what I mean, Like there's a

910
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: fine line there. Well. E News is saying that Claire

911
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: has seen proof of the two of them hanging it

912
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: out Uh. And multiple people have told that Claire and

913
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 1: Dale are that told Claire that Dale was parading around

914
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: New York City with this girl. So it seems like

915
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: this at least played a factor in it. Now past

916
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: that we don't know anything else, who knows if we will,

917
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: it's not really any of our business. Now, it's just

918
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: it's over. It's sad that it happened this way. It's

919
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 1: not okay that she didn't really know about it being

920
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: announced by Dale. The whole thing's messy, um. And so

921
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's been tough, and we mean, we did

922
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: a whole special episode on it without knowing anything, and

923
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,439
Speaker 1: now it's kind of coming out and we're like, yeah,

924
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't really like any more of it. Well, Claire

925
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: Crawley's best friend, Michelle Money and Katie had just mentioned

926
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: how she needs to find her best friends right now,

927
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: Uh sends her a better Off candle after Dale Moss split,

928
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 1: as according to US Weekly. Yeah, so, Michelle posted in

929
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: the story of this gift that she was about to

930
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 1: go send off the Claire or she said, guess who

931
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 1: I'm sending These two? In the candles read thank you

932
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: next better Off and clean Slate and then she also

933
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: had a little Instagram sticker that said boy bye. Yeah.

934
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: I thought that Michelle would be like that friend for

935
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 1: Claire and I'm glad that she's there for her. Yeah.

936
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: I hope there's many they're coming out and supporting Claar

937
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: right now. Well, moving on to a different topic. Kelly Flannagan,

938
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: if you remember she was the one that was dating

939
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 1: Peter Webber for a long time, said that she would

940
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: definitely consider being the Bachelor after Peter Webber split. This

941
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly, when I read the comments under

942
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: this post, there are so many people that were like, Okay, Kelly,

943
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: we never asked you to be the bachelorrette I would.

944
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: But you know, she's responding to a question that Press

945
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: asked her. They said, would you ever be the Bachelor?

946
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: And she said sure, but she doesn't think like I'm

947
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: next in line to become the bachelorette. I think the

948
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: better question would probably be like, Kelly, you're going to

949
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: go to Paradise now, And she said that she would,

950
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, consider it. So I would imagine that

951
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: she would also consider Paradise. It's going to be interesting

952
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: to see. I think it would be a big storyline

953
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: if she did go well. Sarah Trot shades. If you

954
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: remember Sarah Trot, she just recently left the season of

955
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 1: The Bachelor. She shades Victoria Larson after early Bachelor exit.

956
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: The quote that she used is real queens fix each

957
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: other's crowns. What a great qua love Love that instagram

958
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: that she post said with that caption, she said that

959
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: she thought this is very interesting. Sarah actually thought going

960
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: to the show that she was going to be able

961
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 1: to communicate with her parents and have access to a phone,

962
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: and then when she got there, she found out that

963
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. So that made the process a lot

964
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: more difficult for her. I wonder why she would ever

965
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: think that that's going to be a possibility. It's hard

966
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know if she just assumed it,

967
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: she didn't know the stipulations, but yes she did it.

968
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, then she comes out publicly, uh, kind of

969
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: talking about Victoria. Yeah, okay, So but to address the

970
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: quote that you just said, she says that, um, we

971
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 1: see that quote women supporting women all the time on

972
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 1: the internet, but what does that really mean to me?

973
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: It means sharing encouragement instead of judgment, reframing from negative

974
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: comments even when it's sometimes easier to say something mean

975
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: and says instead of saying something nice. It means supporting

976
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: a female in business paying full price. It means supporting

977
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: a younger woman in your industry and offering guidance and

978
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: support when appropriate. Means value your community over competition. It

979
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: does not mean you have to pretend to like everyone.

980
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: That's impossible, but it does mean being a good person,

981
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: keeping your head up and refraining from degrading another human being.

982
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: You never know the internal battles another person is going through,

983
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, just be decent

984
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: and a kind individual. I think that was really a

985
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: great way of articulating the way that Victoria and some

986
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: of the other women treated her. I think it's fantastic.

987
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean, just really well done. Uh and I just

988
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: love the statement real queens fix each other's crowns well.

989
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of Victoria big headline this week, people are talking

990
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: about Bachelor villain Victoria Larson's two thousand twelve shoplifting arrest resurfaces.

991
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: You knew something like not that she would have a

992
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: history with anything, but you just knew people were going

993
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 1: to start digging for any past that can point to

994
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: what is going on with her on t TV. Yep. So,

995
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: she was arrested for petty theft in two thousand twelve

996
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: for stealing stuff from a grocery store, most notably makeup products. Um,

997
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 1: she shoplifted over two fifty dollars worth of items, but

998
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: she did go to the self checkout counter and she

999
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: bought some things, but there was a bag that she

1000
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: kept were apparently of two that she did not scan,

1001
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: and then she denied shoplifting once the cameras caught her.

1002
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: But the thing was, she didn't know that there was

1003
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: cameras watching her, so she ended up festing up and

1004
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: she was let out on five dollars bond. It is

1005
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: a absolute wild story, but we all have her past. Um.

1006
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: I think that the big thing now is like, what

1007
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: in the world's going on in Victoria on the show? Well,

1008
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: speaking of the show, Matt James's former roommate has a

1009
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: lot to say about the Bachelor. This according to Refinery

1010
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Okay, so, apparently a roommate of his who

1011
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 1: will not be named, came out and said that he

1012
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: he was not a good roommate because he basically invited

1013
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: people over to stay over at their place for long

1014
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: periods of time, even going to the extent of making

1015
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: people keys. So there are people going in and out

1016
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: of their shared department all the time. Those people that

1017
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: coming in and out included Tyler Cameron Um just said

1018
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: that they basically had a big falling out at the

1019
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: end of their roommate ship. Well, I mean, I can

1020
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: see Matt James being a very generous man, like, hey,

1021
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: if you need to play stay, come hang out right now,

1022
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: there's always roommate code. Whatever it may be. You kind

1023
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 1: of agree on it or you don't whatever that looks like.

1024
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 1: But just because he's a friendly guy and he's generous,

1025
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,240
Speaker 1: I can't hate him for that, Like I can judge

1026
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: the guy. But it does sound like there is it's

1027
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: just into I think that, you know, now the roommates

1028
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: feel like it's now time to speak on stuff. I

1029
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't love that. So the next one

1030
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: is something that has kind of been talked about now

1031
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: in the headlines. It is interesting. It's unexpected to me.

1032
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 1: I thought this season would be everything opposite of this,

1033
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: But ABC exact Rob Mills addresses Matt James is lower

1034
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 1: Bachelor ratings, the quotas. People are just getting to know

1035
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: him according to US Weekly. I mean, I get it,

1036
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: you have no you have no attachment to him from

1037
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: a previous season. You don't really care about this random

1038
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: guy finding love. There's a big component to getting to

1039
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: know the person on the previous season and getting invested

1040
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: and why they deserve this right. But I mean, Matt

1041
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: is just so good at it that I wish people

1042
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't think like that and would give it the chance,

1043
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: because besides this past episode, I think everything's been excellent.

1044
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: I think he's been a great, great Bachelor. And Rob

1045
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: Mills is saying that, I think you're going to see

1046
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 1: the ratings rise exponentially more than you would have seen

1047
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: in previous seasons because people are going to start talking

1048
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: about it and it's going to be more of a

1049
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: word of mouth thing. The the degree the decrease in viewers.

1050
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: It's like under five million in the past two weeks,

1051
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,439
Speaker 1: and that is a lot lower than usual. It's really

1052
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: low there. It's like half at half of what is expected.

1053
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's weird. Um, there's a lot to that.

1054
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: We'll keep kind of looking into that as weeks go

1055
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: on here and we'll find out what exactly is going on.

1056
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if this episode is going to help

1057
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: matters that That's the thing. I don't know if uh,

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Speaker 1: this episode really pushed the ratings any higher. Uh there

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Speaker 1: there is nothing talk worthy coming from it. Well. Uh.

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Speaker 1: One of our final headlines today is the Bachelor's Nick

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Speaker 1: File is dating surgical technologist Natalie Joy. This according to People, Well,

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Speaker 1: Nick was seen looks like a paparazzi shot of him

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Speaker 1: walking around his neighborhood with a lady. Um. Obviously, like

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Speaker 1: things get weird when we talk about our friends on

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Speaker 1: this episode, on these episodes, So I don't want to

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Speaker 1: like confirm or deny his relationship. I'm sure that when

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Speaker 1: Nick is ready to talk about any sort of person

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Speaker 1: in his life, he'll do so on his own podcast. Well,

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Speaker 1: it feels like people is confirming it. I usually trust people.

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Speaker 1: Good for Nick if he is. She seems like a

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Speaker 1: nice girl. Is Hannah Brown dating model Adam Willard? Bachelor

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Speaker 1: Nation thinks So yeah, looks like it. So people are

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Speaker 1: really sleuthing on her Instagram and she was seen enjoying

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Speaker 1: a romantic dinner with a with a boy in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: and on the same day she posted it in the

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Speaker 1: story of her like cozying up with a man. Faces

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Speaker 1: not included, and people have somehow figured out that this

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Speaker 1: man is Adam Woollard. And I'll say that I looked

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Speaker 1: up Adam before recording this podcast and he's quite a

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Speaker 1: q cute guy. Good for her, or if this is true,

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Speaker 1: good for her? Well. Final headline The Bachelor creator Mike

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Speaker 1: Flice asks thirty four point five million, the same amount

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Speaker 1: I paid for my home in Colorado for for ocean

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Speaker 1: front uh Hawaii home. Yeah wow. So in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen, Flics bought this place for sixteen UM for

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Speaker 1: sixteen point two million from Julia Roberts. Heck, yes, that

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Speaker 1: is so cool. He apparently has remodeled the property and

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Speaker 1: completely redone the surrounding landscape, making him put this sucker

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Speaker 1: on the market for thirty four point five million. It's

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Speaker 1: over two acres, it's ocean front, of course, it's one

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Speaker 1: of the largest parcels of land in this specific bay

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Um, it's the north shore. It's it's apparently

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Speaker 1: just gorgeous. The house itself dates back to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what a win for Mike Flies. I mean that is

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Speaker 1: something special. Well, uh, this is the almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's been a terrific episode and even though this episode itself,

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Speaker 1: maybe of this week's Bachelor, wasn't up to our standards.

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Speaker 1: But we'll be back next week talking about the episode,

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Speaker 1: breaking down everything good in the world. It's been good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you all again. Just a reminder, actually

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Speaker 1: and I do have a virtual event coming up. We

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Speaker 1: always love get doing these all. A hundred of the

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Speaker 1: be more info more things coming out very soon, so

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Speaker 1: stay tuned to that. But until then, there's still meet

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Speaker 1: and great packages available, which include a copy of my

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Speaker 1: slash almost Famous for details. Those will be in the

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Speaker 1: show notes. Well, Hey, i've been been, I've been sleep

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Speaker 1: bye guys. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous

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