Speaker 1: Welcome back to Golden Hour, and I am Kathy coming
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: I guess who's with her?
Speaker 1: We are here in Philadelphia. I'm at Susan's house. And
Speaker 1: what have you been doing, Susan?
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. So Kathy was judging the Miss New
Speaker 2: Jersey competition. And I drove down after flying back from Boston,
Speaker 2: turned around, I'm back redpack and headed to the beach,
Speaker 2: and there she was, and she left me a ticket. However, Kat,
Speaker 2: can I be honest with you? Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 2: to say I'm rude, but I expect it a little
Speaker 2: more posh because you told me to wear a nice
Speaker 2: dress and I felt, whoa, I'm overdressed. I was thinking
Speaker 2: I was going to Miss America.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, well, first, let me just say I
Speaker 1: judged the Miss New Jersey pageant. There were twenty two
Speaker 1: beautiful young ladies from all over New Jersey, but we
Speaker 1: and the paget was held with the music pier and
Speaker 1: you know it was it was so much fun. I
Speaker 1: literally said to the other I was one of seven
Speaker 1: judges and after look at these girl cvs. I called
Speaker 1: my daughter and told her she was a slacker. As
Speaker 1: a joke, but let me just say, Susan came down.
Speaker 2: How about the family?
Speaker 1: No, no, wait, I want to talk about Susan. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about you. Because the talent was amazing, Susan.
Speaker 1: The parking was at a premium. So I said to Susan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go. Where did your party?
Speaker 2: Please do because of those of you that are listening,
Speaker 2: you could just go online because there's a video, trust me,
Speaker 2: And there's so many people giving me hell for this.
Speaker 2: So I am like minutes. I had to perform a
Speaker 2: wedding first and a plus hour plus away. So I'm flying,
Speaker 2: of course, to get there on time because at nine
Speaker 2: o'clock the doors were going to be locked, correct, Kathy.
Speaker 2: So now and I gotta fine parking. And right at
Speaker 2: the police station, I hear public, I see public parking.
Speaker 2: I pull on in park my car. I've I'm looking
Speaker 2: to pay somewhere. There's nowhere to pay. Great, I run
Speaker 2: up the board walk. I'm like perspiring, trying to get
Speaker 2: I make it on time. Well, when we leave, there
Speaker 2: was a view.
Speaker 1: From the police. Yeah, so the police ask you very kindly,
Speaker 1: do not part in their lot.
Speaker 2: No, please move your car. This is police parking only. Asapi.
Speaker 2: How sweet was that?
Speaker 1: Okay, so if we get so after that, we go back,
Speaker 1: after the whole thing was over, we go to a
Speaker 1: party with the judges. Susan goes out with some other
Speaker 1: friends for dinner. We all come back to my hotel
Speaker 1: room and we're all sitting out on the patio having
Speaker 1: a good old time. You know, you can't really talk
Speaker 1: about the pageant because that's sort of confidential how we
Speaker 1: judge and all that. But the next day, Susan I
Speaker 1: go to the beach. People are recognized us on the beach.
Speaker 1: It was great with you know how much they love
Speaker 1: the show and they want to see us back on
Speaker 1: another show. So we loved her in that. Now we
Speaker 1: get in the car to drive to your jersey.
Speaker 2: You forgot the best part. We went to the board
Speaker 2: walk in that pizza because she needs to eat.
Speaker 1: Wait. Can I just ask y'all when we go to
Speaker 1: sit down in this restaurant, Susan said, I'd like a.
Speaker 2: Slice, nice birch beer and a coke.
Speaker 1: And I said to her, what's a slice? She goes
Speaker 1: a slice of pizza. I said, but what kind of
Speaker 1: pizza she goes? It's a regular slice pizza. Cheese pizza.
Speaker 1: I said, where I'm from, you say, I'm like a
Speaker 1: piece of pepperoni pizza. I'd like a vegetarian. She goes, No, here,
Speaker 1: you just say you want a slice and they give.
Speaker 2: You redf you want one with? If you want it one,
Speaker 2: you would say, can I have a slice with pepperoni?
Speaker 2: Like we know in this land.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it is a whole different world. When
Speaker 1: I arrived in Philadelphia at the parking garage, guy told
Speaker 1: me not to come back. I was like, it's the
Speaker 1: city of brotherly love and Philly anyway.
Speaker 2: It is just how you greet them, baby girl.
Speaker 1: I guess it was something.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, we have a full week ahead of us. Our
Speaker 2: friend Nancy's going to join us on Wednesday. We've been
Speaker 2: cleaning the pool and she's rearranging my furniture because I
Speaker 2: got a new umbrella for over the table. It's been crazy.
Speaker 1: We get here, I'm here and Susan says, help me outside.
Speaker 1: We're moving patio furniture. I'm lugging iron tables. She's power washing.
Speaker 1: It's like she's having a wedding in the backyard. I said, Susan,
Speaker 1: it's Nancy and me. We don't care, no, no, I
Speaker 1: have to have it just right. Wait, one more thing.
Speaker 1: I just want to say one more thing about the
Speaker 1: trip to Jersey. First of all, Ocean Sydney, New Jersey
Speaker 1: was wonderful. I've never walked on a boardwalk. It was fabulous.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I had all this luggage because I
Speaker 1: had to dress up for the pageant. Susan has a
Speaker 1: two seats, it's a four seater, but it's a Mercedes convertible,
Speaker 1: so it's a very small car. I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of luggage from the show and now being here week,
Speaker 1: Susan goes, we'll just put down the top on the
Speaker 1: car and lift the luggage over. Do I need to
Speaker 1: tell y'all people were standing in the parking lot laughing.
Speaker 1: It truly was Ethel and Lucy trying to get this
Speaker 1: luggage in the car. Hour later, we're sweating to death,
Speaker 1: which we find out the top of it.
Speaker 2: Won't go down, won't go down, it will not work
Speaker 2: right anyway, get broken. But it's all good. Now, everything
Speaker 2: is perfect.
Speaker 1: Anyway. We are now in Philadelphia waiting for Nancy to arrive.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have fun this week. Stay tuned because we'll
Speaker 2: talk about that as well.
Speaker 1: So one thing has changed. Dating has not changing our
Speaker 1: life so well.
Speaker 2: And this week that's what we're going to talk about.
Speaker 2: Finding the right person and how you know if they
Speaker 2: actually are That's something, Kathy, I'll never know because I
Speaker 2: keep trying.
Speaker 1: Okay, So a little story that just happened, which didn't
Speaker 1: even know we were going to be talking about this.
Speaker 1: A very good girlfriend of mine just called me. She's
Speaker 1: been dating this guy. He's very jealous, no matter if
Speaker 1: she talks to another client, whatever, and she keeps breaking
Speaker 1: up and going back, breaking up and going back. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, get on a new dating app. Let's hop, Like,
Speaker 1: why do you keep dating the same person and thinking
Speaker 1: it's gonna change?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the story of my life. So, Kathy, if
Speaker 2: dating apps existed when we were in our twenties, do
Speaker 2: you think he would abuse them?
Speaker 1: I was married in my twenties. I was married.
Speaker 2: Nothing ever applies to her. She's been married since she
Speaker 2: was born.
Speaker 1: But wait a second, let me say to you. I
Speaker 1: think in our twenties computers were not a thing. Everything
Speaker 1: was more organic. When you and I were young, you
Speaker 1: went to bars technology. That's what I'm saying so if
Speaker 1: dating apps had existed, I actually do think people would
Speaker 1: have used them twenty year olds. Yea, I wouldn't tried it.
Speaker 1: I think I would have tried it. But when we
Speaker 1: were young, did you want a lot of blind dates?
Speaker 2: Never?
Speaker 1: You know, it's so funny you said that the only
Speaker 1: blind day day ever went on was the guy I
Speaker 1: ended up marrying. I met him on a bike.
Speaker 2: He walked into a room and saw him across the
Speaker 2: room and said, I'm going to marry that man.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. But they had set me up.
Speaker 1: They want my roommate knew they all those three knew
Speaker 1: each other, so it was just coincidental. I looked across
Speaker 1: the room and yeah, I guess it was sort of
Speaker 1: half a blind date. I don't know. Okay, So what's
Speaker 1: scared do you? If you've never had a blind date?
Speaker 1: What would be scared of you? Walking into a blind
Speaker 1: date or creating your own profile for a dating app?
Speaker 2: Walking into a blind date? Creating a profiles? Easy?
Speaker 1: So okay, so I've been on would you consider a
Speaker 1: day that a guy that you meet on a dating app?
Speaker 1: Would you consider that a blind date?
Speaker 2: No? Definitely not. So I used to say when I
Speaker 2: was on the dating apps and I used to say,
Speaker 2: we're going to have a meet and then we will
Speaker 2: decide at that time whether we want to plan a date.
Speaker 2: That's not a date. Everybody thinks, oh I have a date.
Speaker 2: I have a date. You didn't even meet him yet,
Speaker 2: it's not a date, okay, And some people could tell
Speaker 2: him five minutes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, so, so do you think dating apps have
Speaker 1: ruined romance? Because I think so. You know, let's face it,
Speaker 1: a swipe is real easy, right. You know, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this a little bit later but in this podcast.
Speaker 1: But swiping, I think it's like it's almost like you're
Speaker 1: interviewing for a job. Does it doesn't feel romantic to me?
Speaker 2: It doesn't feel doesn't swiping to me. It's all about
Speaker 2: what I see. So it's only a picture. And more
Speaker 2: times than not, if you met somebody that wasn't as
Speaker 2: strikingly handsome to you, yet you were talking to them
Speaker 2: and got to know them, they're great, and all of
Speaker 2: a sudden they become better looking because of their personality. Yes,
Speaker 2: that's what's lacking on the dating apps. And I feel
Speaker 2: like men and women as well, don't give it any time.
Speaker 2: They don't try at all, because it's too much easier
Speaker 2: to go back. There's twenty thousand more out there, you know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I'm saying, there's too much. There's such
Speaker 1: a thing as too much choice. But it also, like
Speaker 1: you just said, it makes looks the primary thing where
Speaker 1: if you talk to someone, you might really engage with
Speaker 1: him and feel like, oh, I don't know what this
Speaker 1: guy looks like, but you know he's interesting, he's fun.
Speaker 1: I'd like to meet him. I don't know. To me, Ugh,
Speaker 1: there's for me.
Speaker 2: I'm not let's get into the pet peeves. Holy smokes.
Speaker 2: I mean I did notice. Sometimes men will put pictures
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, okay, and you're going down, You're
Speaker 2: going down. They're getting older, they're getting older, and then
Speaker 2: last one is like the real I go, oh my god.
Speaker 1: That oh no, Susan. The pet peeve should be when
Speaker 1: the guy puts a really good way, which is what
Speaker 1: happens to me. The guy it's a really good picture. Guys,
Speaker 1: you know, he might be in his sixties, but he's
Speaker 1: a good sixties looking and you think, oh, this guy's
Speaker 1: good looking. Then you scroll and you get pictures him
Speaker 1: when he was twenty in his Weenie grabberr bathing suit.
Speaker 1: And then you see one picture when he's sting the grandchildren.
Speaker 1: I know, I said, but the first one really engages you.
Speaker 1: My pet peeve is not that. My pet peeve is
Speaker 1: when the guy I literally when I see a guy
Speaker 1: holding a bear can wearing a baseball cap on backwards.
Speaker 2: And holding on holding the fish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you that guy's out for me. It's like,
Speaker 1: look what I caught, And I'm like, you're not catching me.
Speaker 2: Well guess what. Hopefully, if any men or listener or
Speaker 2: any women that have men friends, please educate them. Don't
Speaker 2: take a selfie in the bathroom without a shirt on,
Speaker 2: especially with a towel wrapped around. Okay, you have a
Speaker 2: great body, but you're flawing it. It's stupid. We can't
Speaker 2: even take you seriously. Right.
Speaker 1: Another pet peeve of mine is you get a picture
Speaker 1: of four guys standing on a golf course. You don't
Speaker 1: know what exactly they have sunglasses on, and you know
Speaker 1: their their golf cap. Okay, was it?
Speaker 2: Any meanie?
Speaker 1: MINEU? Moe? Like, how do you pick one? And like,
Speaker 1: of course I want to go after the one that
Speaker 1: looks the best and it's always the guy who is
Speaker 1: holding a dead fish that is going to be.
Speaker 2: What would you say would make a good profile for you? Like,
Speaker 2: what if you're scrolling?
Speaker 1: Oh, Susan, that is so easy for me. I have
Speaker 1: dated because I have dated men who write absolutely nothing,
Speaker 1: and that is not a good dating profile. I've dated
Speaker 1: guys who wrote, you know, the next American great novel
Speaker 1: or should I say autobiography. I'm bored to tears, because
Speaker 1: then there's nothing to talk about when you meet them.
Speaker 1: If I know everything about them. What I want to
Speaker 1: know when I read a guy's profile, I want to
Speaker 1: see a little humor. I want to see that the
Speaker 1: guy's adventurous. Like I don't need your trip journal from
Speaker 1: the last twenty years of every country you've been to,
Speaker 1: Just telling me you like to travel, maybe your favorite country,
Speaker 1: if you like to cook, tell me some of your hobbies.
Speaker 1: One thing I love when a guy writes his idea
Speaker 1: of a perfect first date. That tells me a lot. Yes,
Speaker 1: what about you? I like, what do you like?
Speaker 2: Well? I do so, as I said I was guilty of.
Speaker 2: If somebody cut my eye a little bit, I would
Speaker 2: scroll down and then read I want to know how
Speaker 2: tall he is, I want to know where he's located. Yeah,
Speaker 2: then I'll read his words and not until then because
Speaker 2: if it's too far away or and we all know
Speaker 2: how that works with me with the long distance thing,
Speaker 2: I'm living and learning. But it would have to be
Speaker 2: somebody that I caught my eye, that I slowed down
Speaker 2: and I want to read about, and like I said,
Speaker 2: age distance.
Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a minute. So for you in your
Speaker 1: dating profile, you're absolutely going by looks because if I
Speaker 1: see a guy, even if he's not the best looking.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's what I said. If somebody's okay looking,
Speaker 2: I'm going to slow down and read about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if a guy. I'm being honest. Guys,
Speaker 1: if you want a woman, unless you have a checkbook
Speaker 1: with a lot of zeros, and then you can probably
Speaker 1: have whoever you want. Not me, but you can have
Speaker 1: most other women if you have a big fat checkbook.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be fit, you don't have to
Speaker 1: do anything. Just put your bank balance as your profile
Speaker 1: and say women interesting.
Speaker 2: That's right, you'll track the wrong people. Well, I do
Speaker 2: have a question for you, Kathy, when being on one
Speaker 2: of these Okay, is there such a thing as etiquette,
Speaker 2: dating app etiquette. It should be a law.
Speaker 1: Actually, but well, no etiquette to me in dating apps. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: I want to just go back in a profile. Height
Speaker 1: at our, age still matters to you. I just want
Speaker 1: to go back for one seconds. I had a follow
Speaker 1: up for me.
Speaker 2: It does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how tall? How short will you go? How tall
Speaker 1: will you go?
Speaker 2: I wouldn't go my height. It would have to be
Speaker 2: at least three inches taller.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Somebody don't mind being taller than the man, and God
Speaker 2: bless him, but me, I mind, that's all. Although I'm strong,
Speaker 2: so it's not even that difficult anymore.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I am, I'm five eight. I will date
Speaker 1: it five to nine. I don't care if he's got
Speaker 1: the right personality and everything else, so I'm out the height.
Speaker 1: It's not that important to me. I'm looking for you
Speaker 1: profile some guy that isn't writing, like it's a brief
Speaker 1: for a law review, like some interest do you want? Like?
Speaker 1: Are you looking for some guy who might be funny, humored?
Speaker 1: Does that matter to it all?
Speaker 2: Oh? Got yes, But I can't tell that by words.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they'll put that if they're if they're really good,
Speaker 2: they know how to write and they know how to
Speaker 2: express themselves. But I give most men the benefit of
Speaker 2: the doubt. They don't know how to put that on paper.
Speaker 2: So you have to have some kind of an interest
Speaker 2: and then go meet. And that's where you can tell
Speaker 2: I'm not one to do emails or text messages or
Speaker 2: any of that. Let's do this, let's meet. We can
Speaker 2: meet at a coffee shop. I don't care if we
Speaker 2: can do a drive by dunk a Donuts or that's
Speaker 2: interesting to see if we're interested in you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, well I'm still not done. On a dating app.
Speaker 1: How do you put down your age preference? How how
Speaker 1: old will you go?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: How much older?
Speaker 2: Twelve years younger, up to ten years older?
Speaker 1: Okay, so so there's not.
Speaker 2: That many men left out there, so you have to
Speaker 2: expand on the age.
Speaker 1: Well, if I go, you know, twelve years older, you
Speaker 1: know I'm going to be buying them pushing a wheelchair
Speaker 1: for them years older? Yeah, I can't. And but but
Speaker 1: I also think what turns me off? And maybe it's
Speaker 1: my age, but you know, I'm nothing to be honest
Speaker 1: when I see a guy who's in their mid sixties,
Speaker 1: you know, sixty five, sixty eight, Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: that's a good looking and then I go down and
Speaker 1: I have literally read this on dating app looking for
Speaker 1: women from fifty to fifty eight. And then I go
Speaker 1: back and I go, wait a minute, this guy, so
Speaker 1: that guy for me, even though I'm out at that.
Speaker 2: Age range, and even message that guy.
Speaker 1: Oh no, sometimes I'll see it. I'll see it. But
Speaker 1: it's interesting to me that on dating apps, men often
Speaker 1: put such particulars that they want yeah, and they're fine
Speaker 1: too much. Well, that's because you're in filling the one.
Speaker 2: I put that too much, even for my own when
Speaker 2: I have a dating app, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not on Are you on dating apps? Do you
Speaker 1: have dating apps? I'm not on dating apps right now?
Speaker 2: Just break, took a break. Okay, let's atiquette.
Speaker 1: Back to your question, right kid, Who.
Speaker 2: Do you think should send the first message?
Speaker 1: I think either person can send that. I have sent
Speaker 1: the first message, I've received the first message. The hard
Speaker 1: part for me is when I when I send up
Speaker 1: the first message, I would say seventy five percent of
Speaker 1: the time I got a response, and then we start talking.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think we're in a modern era
Speaker 1: where you can send out the verset texts.
Speaker 2: They so proud of that. Kathy, do you do with
Speaker 2: my old school girlfriend? And I am very.
Speaker 1: From in Philly? When in Philly do as Philadelphians do.
Speaker 1: I told you I will send the first message or not.
Speaker 1: Either way, I'm asking you if you will ever send
Speaker 1: a first message?
Speaker 2: Most definitely. I feel like if I swipe somebody that
Speaker 2: I liked and then it's a match, of course I'm
Speaker 2: going to send it out. Who knows when he swiped,
Speaker 2: and you know he didn't see I was here, He
Speaker 2: might have given up by then. Yeah, here's where you.
Speaker 1: And I are going to differ. Here's okay, here's where
Speaker 1: you and I are going to differ. I will chat
Speaker 1: a couple of times I've honestly gone to I told
Speaker 1: you I have a Google phone number, so I will
Speaker 1: chat in the app once or twice. Then I'll say,
Speaker 1: you know what, here's my phone number. Let's chat on
Speaker 1: the punk. And oftentimes, once I've had that phone chat,
Speaker 1: I can tell whether or not I want to meet them.
Speaker 1: What do you do? How off? How fat quickly do you.
Speaker 2: Meet sooner rather than later? Even for five minutes? Just
Speaker 2: let's get a quick cope. It's easy. You go in,
Speaker 2: buy coffee, chat for a minute, and let's set up
Speaker 2: a date. If we like each other, the chemistry feels good,
Speaker 2: then okay, let's set get your calendar out, I'll get
Speaker 2: mine now. I don't think that's difficult at all. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's difficult if you want to mind, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to waste anybody's time. So if
Speaker 2: you couldn't, okay, So by the phone, I've chatted with
Speaker 2: people and I was really excited. Yeah, and then you
Speaker 2: go and it was a disappointment. So I'd rather just
Speaker 2: get the eyed eye contact is what I'm about.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, Susan, I'm hitting you with the question here,
Speaker 1: be honest when you've met with somebody and it's a no,
Speaker 1: And be honest. You set a five minute cup of coffee.
Speaker 1: You can't even drink a cup of coffee in five minutes.
Speaker 1: What is the shortest state you've ever had when you
Speaker 1: met a gui?
Speaker 2: Probably fifteen that you didn't want to see a guy?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: And at the end of that you say, what, I
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna make it.
Speaker 2: I'm guilty. I'm going to be honest because I'm sixty
Speaker 2: nine years old, and honesty is the best way to go.
Speaker 2: Don't judge me or judge me. I don't care. Yes,
Speaker 2: I feel bad sometimes when I know I'm not interested,
Speaker 2: but not one hundred percent. There was no ick. I
Speaker 2: just didn't really think I was gonna want to. But
Speaker 2: if they ask, not everybody asked. Sometimes it's mutual. Sometimes
Speaker 2: we'll go, well, we'll text each other and let each
Speaker 2: other know, you know, think about it or whatever, and
Speaker 2: that's the easy way out. This is why I don't
Speaker 2: understand why men can't take the easy way out and
Speaker 2: send a little message. Just didn't feel the spark, just
Speaker 2: not that into you. I'm sorry, I'm glad we met,
Speaker 2: but I'm not feeling it. Whatever. A text is easy,
Speaker 2: and you haven't spent time with somebody. So sometimes I
Speaker 2: say yeah, let's get yeah, sure text me, And then
Speaker 2: when they did it, then I say it because I
Speaker 2: feel bad telling them face to.
Speaker 1: Faces on that. I don't think that's bad. I think
Speaker 1: that allows them and you to say face okay, do
Speaker 1: you think you should? And do you date multiple people
Speaker 1: at once?
Speaker 2: I'm not against other people. I guess they do it.
Speaker 2: I don't understand it. I don't date multiple people. I'm
Speaker 2: a one on one person. I feel like, if you
Speaker 2: want to date me, then you date me until you
Speaker 2: make a decision whether you want to be with me
Speaker 2: or not. But you can't date me on Friday night
Speaker 2: and date Kathy on Saturday night and then Wednesday night
Speaker 2: call Nancy. That doesn't work well.
Speaker 1: If they date you Friday at me Saturday night, you're
Speaker 1: out of the picture and they're never calling dance. I'm it. No,
Speaker 1: here's what.
Speaker 2: It's the only old school values.
Speaker 1: To I was gonna say, because you and I, as
Speaker 1: much as we love each other, we are different on
Speaker 1: several things. I think, unless and I've done it a
Speaker 1: few times, it's hard to keep you know, Jim and John.
Speaker 1: You know, I might mix up the names, But I
Speaker 1: think until you're actually dating someone you really like. I
Speaker 1: used to think when I first got on dating apps,
Speaker 1: date them until you don't want to date them, then
Speaker 1: go back to the app. But in the most recent
Speaker 1: time I've been on dating app, I have to be honest.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of dates with different guys because
Speaker 1: I figure, you know, why why limit it? See if
Speaker 1: you like the guy? And then if I've gone out
Speaker 1: with them a few times, then I say goodbye to
Speaker 1: the other one. I don't think either way is wrong, though,
Speaker 1: I think you can do it either.
Speaker 2: Way, I guess and for me, what I don't know
Speaker 2: don't hurt me. So I want to know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Susan, Yes, honest engine because I will be
Speaker 1: honest as well. Have you ever googled someone before a
Speaker 1: first date?
Speaker 2: Not until I met you?
Speaker 1: How? How does that mean?
Speaker 2: I never did that. Didn't want to know. And you
Speaker 2: always say you got to find out this, or my
Speaker 2: other girlfriend says she's in a real estate Oh, I
Speaker 2: could find out. This is like go whoa, wha what
Speaker 2: that's a lot.
Speaker 1: That's a lot I find out. Let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something, especially if you're going to die when I
Speaker 1: say this. But gosh, you all know out there that
Speaker 1: Kathy speaks truth. When I'm interested in the guy and
Speaker 1: I and I can tell someone's by their profile, if
Speaker 1: I like the humor, if I like what their career was,
Speaker 1: if I like their attitude, and then if I've talked
Speaker 1: to him on the phone one time and we're going
Speaker 1: to meet up, Oh yes, I I do, Susan. Have
Speaker 1: a friend and I call my friend and I find out. You.
Speaker 1: I have found out everything their ex wives, where they
Speaker 1: how many homes where they lived, if they've ever been arrested.
Speaker 1: Because I don't want to waste time on someone that
Speaker 1: you know has a ward out for his arrest in
Speaker 1: six states, you know what I mean? So I find out,
Speaker 1: I find out. I find out. And there was one
Speaker 1: guy I found out and I was called when we
Speaker 1: were set up the date. I said, you know, I
Speaker 1: was nice about it. I said, I've done some more
Speaker 1: thinking and I actually don't think we're a very good match.
Speaker 1: And you know why I'm able to do that because
Speaker 1: I have a Google phone number and Google is not
Speaker 1: paying me to say this, folks, But Google you can't trace,
Speaker 1: So when a guy calls me on my Google phone number,
Speaker 1: he cannot find out anything about me. I don't give
Speaker 1: a guy my real phone number.
Speaker 2: And that's fair that you can google them and they
Speaker 2: can't google you.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's fair. Go get a Google phone number, buddy,
Speaker 1: if you don't want me to find it out.
Speaker 2: My oh god, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 2: That How about if each of us, I don't know
Speaker 2: even know how I'm going to do this, but come
Speaker 2: up with a dating app Hot take talk to me
Speaker 2: about what would be a hot take for a dating Okay,
Speaker 2: I wish I could just own one because I do
Speaker 2: things a lot.
Speaker 1: Different real, but that's what you know I should do, Susan. Okay.
Speaker 1: One of my hot takes is, uh, we already talked
Speaker 1: about a little bit. You know, the men that put
Speaker 1: pictures from antiquity on their profile and I'm looking and going, yeah,
Speaker 1: you wish you look like that. That is a hot
Speaker 1: take that men do not for the most and women too.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't just say, man, I've seen women who you know,
Speaker 1: are forty pounds heavier or thinner, whatever it is, they
Speaker 1: don't look like they're pictures my I think my biggest
Speaker 1: hot take for me is that men in their sixties
Speaker 1: there if they even know how to get on a
Speaker 1: dating app or take pictures and aren't sideways. Men just
Speaker 1: aren't really computer savvy. They're not app savvy, so it's hard.
Speaker 1: There's more women on dating apps than men at all ages,
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: And some that try to get on don't really know
Speaker 2: what they're doing and they're embarrassed to tell another dude
Speaker 2: take my picture for a dating app. I mean, the
Speaker 2: younger people don't think twice about it. But people are aged.
Speaker 2: It's something that's out of the comfort zone. So I
Speaker 2: would like my hot take would be as a senior,
Speaker 2: an older dating app. And I know they have them
Speaker 2: out there right well there are helping the people with
Speaker 2: their profile. Who's because sometimes they don't know how to
Speaker 2: take a picture. Nobody told the guy don't do it
Speaker 2: in the bathroom because there's a mirror, or in the
Speaker 2: restroom at the gas station, like keep the fish out
Speaker 2: of it. Although although Kathy, when you said the fish part,
Speaker 2: if that's what they're into, that's their life. Maybe the
Speaker 2: fish thing is a couple of pictures.
Speaker 1: Well know that. Ahead of Tize said, let me just say,
Speaker 1: if all the guys that have swiped on me that
Speaker 1: I've looked at as many of them are holding fish,
Speaker 1: if they are all serious deep sea fishermen, and it's
Speaker 1: not just a nacation pick, the ocean should be devoid
Speaker 1: of fish, and oh probably another five minutes. I mean,
Speaker 1: no way, I'm not buying it. They just think, hey,
Speaker 1: look at me, I'm manly. I look at this, you know,
Speaker 1: eighteen inch cod that I caught, you know whatever, you
Speaker 1: know what I'd love to do Susan swear to God
Speaker 1: we should do this. We're going to run a boat,
Speaker 1: We're going to go out and we're going to somehow
Speaker 1: catch a shark and we're gonna say.
Speaker 2: Freak Caddy. I want no parts of it, No way.
Speaker 2: I was a lot of my friend's boat and they
Speaker 2: were shark honey. I was like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Why am I here? Why am I here? What is
Speaker 2: the funniest or oddest or most bizarre excuse someone ever
Speaker 2: gave you for flaking on a date?
Speaker 1: Okay? So the truth is I have actually never had
Speaker 1: a date flake out on me. I just haven't had that.
Speaker 1: But I have gotten out of some bad dates in
Speaker 1: very humorous ways to want to hear.
Speaker 2: Wait, were you already on the date? Yes? Or okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay. So when I first started dating, I
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, I was married for almost forty
Speaker 1: six years. I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 1: So I would give either Mike, one of my kids,
Speaker 1: or a friend tell them what was up, and say
Speaker 1: I'm going to text you. I'd go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: and I'd say it's all good. You don't have to
Speaker 1: call or nine one one call me so i'd go
Speaker 1: back to the table, and this one time it was
Speaker 1: a nine to one one. Get me the hell out
Speaker 1: of here. So I went back to the table and
Speaker 1: I said, give me five minutes so it doesn't look bad.
Speaker 1: Five minutes later, my phone rings, it's my friend, it's
Speaker 1: not my kid. I answer it and I went, hello, Oh,
Speaker 1: I said to the date, I'm sorry, I have to
Speaker 1: answer this call. This is I remember when I said,
Speaker 1: but I said, a damn's call. And I answered, I went,
Speaker 1: you're oh my god, are you okay? Okay, calm down, Oh.
Speaker 2: Calm down, make it sound good.
Speaker 1: I will be the yes, No, it's okay. He'll certainly
Speaker 1: understand it's okay. Literally, because you know me, Susan, I
Speaker 1: can like I can do it on the spur of
Speaker 1: the moment. And I hung up. I said, I am
Speaker 1: so sorry, John, Tom, whatever your name is. My daughter
Speaker 1: has had an emergency. She's pregnant and I don't know
Speaker 1: if she's going into labor. I have to go. Her
Speaker 1: husband's out of town. I need to go. I am
Speaker 1: so sorry. I'd love to pay for the you know
Speaker 1: whatever got up that I was out of there in
Speaker 1: five minutes. Have you ever done it, by the way
Speaker 1: a charm.
Speaker 2: I usually go the bathroom and my phone's blowing up
Speaker 2: and I have to give them a heads up, like
Speaker 2: a thumbs up or you know, it's okay, but I'm
Speaker 2: good because most of it was about they were paranoid
Speaker 2: I was safe or not. Yeah, I do that, but
Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever I cut it short and said, listen.
Speaker 1: See, I'm not good at that. You and I've talked
Speaker 1: about this. I'm not really good at looking at my
Speaker 1: watch and saying, gee, it's getting light. I'm not really
Speaker 1: good at that. I and I don't remember. This was
Speaker 1: when I first started dating, and when you haven't dated
Speaker 1: in a long time, navigating those waters are not easy
Speaker 1: and that I feel uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Was not there to hurt anything.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember who this guy was, but I
Speaker 1: remember talking about uh. I met him on a dating app,
Speaker 1: and I remember he sat there on this this was
Speaker 1: our first date, talking about how I was the woman
Speaker 1: he was looking for, and I thought, oh, this is
Speaker 1: not happening. So I was, so, what about you? You
Speaker 1: guys have a good story for me.
Speaker 2: No, that's pretty much it. I like I said, give
Speaker 2: the thumbs up in the bathroom or I can't wait
Speaker 2: to get out of here kind of thing, and I
Speaker 2: just speed it up and I'm finished by dinner and
Speaker 2: I ask for coffee. Cut me out of here.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think. I think sometimes before we
Speaker 1: move on to the next section, I gotta say this.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes some men are so clueless and or
Speaker 1: desperate to find a partner. And I'm guessing some women
Speaker 1: are too. But you and I are we want the
Speaker 1: right guy, or we don't want a guy, And so
Speaker 1: I know you don't waste time. I don't waste time,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be mean about it. I
Speaker 1: want to get on it, and.
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste anyone else's time.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't wait about that before about at the end
Speaker 2: of the date, when I always say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: why insist let me pay for my share? You know,
Speaker 2: because if I know I'm never going to see them again,
Speaker 2: I'm not dating for dinners or appetizers. You know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. Hell oh gosh, all right, Well
Speaker 1: on that happy note. Every week we answer questions from
Speaker 1: listeners y'all know that, and we give them some expert
Speaker 1: golden advice. We have a doozy of a question here tonight, Susan,
Speaker 1: were really for And this.
Speaker 2: Is from Mazie and she's from Scottsdale. I keep seeing
Speaker 2: the same people on dating apps year after year. At
Speaker 2: this point I know their jobs, their dogs' names, and
Speaker 2: which photos they've been recycling since twenty twenty one. Is
Speaker 2: this just the reality of modern dating? Or should I
Speaker 2: take it as a sign that everyone worth dating has
Speaker 2: already left the apps? You know, Katy, It's funny after
Speaker 2: a few year break and I go back on, they're
Speaker 2: the same bee ball, nothing change. They don't even update
Speaker 2: their app, I mean, their their profile.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, Daisy, you're in scott so go
Speaker 1: hang out at golf course. You'll find some great guys.
Speaker 1: That's my first advice to you. I I think there
Speaker 1: are a lot of repeat offenders on the on the apps,
Speaker 1: but I also think that at our age it's tough
Speaker 1: to find the person you're looking for. Sure is so
Speaker 1: those guys that are still on are.
Speaker 2: Maybe not enough people our age on.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, you know, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And so you and I specifically we're looking for we're
Speaker 1: looking for a special guy who matches our energy and
Speaker 1: all that. Right, Well, there aren't that many guys, so
Speaker 1: we look at him or like that guy's been here,
Speaker 1: Because that guy's been here. Maybe he just doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to date. Maybe he doesn't.
Speaker 2: And what, guys, those of you listen, if you have
Speaker 2: a story for us, you know what to do. Send
Speaker 2: that story in or your question in Bachelor nation dot
Speaker 2: com slash Golding hour old on Katy, we would take
Speaker 2: that in a minute.
Speaker 1: Wait a second, Hold on, are you saying that if
Speaker 1: a guy has been there since twenty twenty one and
Speaker 1: he sent us his story, you're going for that guy.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying people out there listening to these stories,
Speaker 2: if they have a story that we'd like to talk about,
Speaker 2: we will share it like this is funny, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: I'm just reminding them where to send it down.
Speaker 1: Not just your stories. We want your questions, your contents,
Speaker 1: We want it all and by the way, we might
Speaker 1: actually answer your question and we definitely want to hear
Speaker 1: your stories.
Speaker 2: All right, God, all right here, we got we got
Speaker 2: a game. Okay, you ready, yep? All right, We're going
Speaker 2: to tell each other what their answer should be based
Speaker 2: off the prompt that we say. All right, So Kathy's
Speaker 2: profile for me, Susan will brag about you to her
Speaker 2: friends if.
Speaker 1: You are handsome, have a home in the Hamptons and
Speaker 1: a very large checkbook. All right, that's you think it's.
Speaker 2: Susan is weirdly attracted to.
Speaker 1: Men who can dance and cook.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. That one you got the first one.
Speaker 2: You're wrong, but go ahead. The key to her heart is.
Speaker 1: Giving her lots and lots and lots. How much time
Speaker 1: do we have of attention?
Speaker 2: Very good?
Speaker 1: All right, you go. Okay, Susan's app for Kathy, Kathy
Speaker 1: goes crazy.
Speaker 2: For smart, smart men that have had a successful career.
Speaker 1: That's all. How about kind?
Speaker 2: All right, well that's what I first thought of. All right,
Speaker 2: go ahead to the next one.
Speaker 1: Kathy's biggest pet peeve is.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of them. Somebody that doesn't tell
Speaker 2: the truth, Somebody that can't afford life. Somebody that says
Speaker 2: he's a go get her and a doer and he
Speaker 2: sits on the couch. What's your phrase that you say?
Speaker 1: I used to be I used to guy. Now, my
Speaker 1: biggest pet peeve is a guy who says he's it's
Speaker 1: they used to be one who says he's all that
Speaker 1: is all right, Kathy, answer nicely, Susan. Kathy winds down.
Speaker 2: By pouring a glass of wine and having some.
Speaker 1: Nuts, or she's right, or chat with a good friend.
Speaker 2: But yeah, getting on the phone.
Speaker 1: Or needle point. All right, well there's you know, we
Speaker 1: gotta play that.
Speaker 2: Game again again. Let's free dude. Susan's first one. Susan
Speaker 2: will brag about you to her friends if.
Speaker 1: You are kind and generous to her. No, okay, what
Speaker 1: I would say to that? Okay?
Speaker 2: What if you make her laugh?
Speaker 1: Susan? Everyone makes you laugh?
Speaker 2: No, I make everyone laugh. But somebody that makes me
Speaker 2: laugh and can dance, forget about I'm going to brag
Speaker 2: about you. We had so much fun.
Speaker 1: Really, that's it. If they make you laugh.
Speaker 2: I love a man that could make me laugh.
Speaker 1: Well, so why but I would not say that's the
Speaker 1: first thing. I wouldn't know.
Speaker 2: It's not the first. It's saying I would brag about
Speaker 2: him to my friends.
Speaker 1: I don't need it.
Speaker 2: When I when I had met Fred a long time ago,
Speaker 2: I brag, Oh my god, it was so great. We laughed.
Speaker 2: We couldn't understand each other. We dance. It was like that.
Speaker 1: See I will say that's why I said, a guy
Speaker 1: who will give you a lot of attention, who will
Speaker 1: cook for you.
Speaker 2: Yes, the attention part was definitely right.
Speaker 1: Definitely listen. Now that we know what our profiles are
Speaker 1: for each other.
Speaker 2: Send somebody our way.
Speaker 1: Thank you please, and in the meantime, thank you all
Speaker 1: for joining us for Bachelor Golden Hour. It's always so
Speaker 1: much fun.
Speaker 2: It definitely is, and you guys hear me every week,
Speaker 2: so I'm going to do it again. Make sure to
Speaker 2: rate us, review us, and subscribe wherever you listen to
Speaker 2: your podcast and.
Speaker 1: You know what to do. You can follow Golden Hour
Speaker 1: on social media at Bachelor Happy Hour and at Bachelor Nation.
Speaker 2: Yes, and don't forget about our Bachelor Nation cruise. It's
Speaker 2: creeping up on us. But you know what I heard,
Speaker 2: it was sold out. Kat.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you know what. You and I are gonna
Speaker 1: have so much fun. We're gonna do a live podcast there,
Speaker 1: but until next week, until we see you again, Susan
Speaker 1: and I will both be winding down right here.
Speaker 2: I think I got to open the wine. I'm going
Speaker 2: to cook her dinner though, actually so We will see
Speaker 2: you next week.
Speaker 1: Everybody, mhm.