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Speaker 2: Hello Billy Gil, Hello stugutts. How are you. I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: How are you? What's going on?

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Speaker 5: I'm good? You know, I was thinking, because you always

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Speaker 5: talk about it in the entry, say it's the biggest

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Speaker 5: podcast in the world, and obviously we're telling the truth. Yea,

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Speaker 5: why is it we're the biggest podcasts in the world.

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Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 5: feel like I'm on the biggest podcast in the world.

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Speaker 2: Do you You don't, huh No, neither do I.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I did for a fleeting moment when we were

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Speaker 4: bigger than Oprah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't refeel it felt great.

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Speaker 4: I had a two week run where I was number

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Speaker 4: one not just in sports the recreation, but number one

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Speaker 4: everywhere overall, Like I was. I was ahead of like

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Speaker 4: some of the biggest names in the history of me,

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Speaker 4: not just sports media media in general. And so yeah,

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Speaker 4: for two weeks it felt good to be ahead of Opera,

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Speaker 4: to be ahead of Joe Rogan, and to be ahead

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Speaker 4: of that SmartLess podcast whatever the hell it's called.

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Speaker 5: So is this like the Heisman Trophy, Like you're never

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Speaker 5: former Heisman Trophy winner, You're just always Heisman Trophy winner,

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Speaker 5: Like because you were number the number one podcast in

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Speaker 5: the world. From now on, you're just the number one

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Speaker 5: podcast in the world. Stupotty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah forever. It's like, you know, once you're a president,

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Speaker 2: you're a president forever.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well no I think that.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: I mean you can still call you president, yeah, like

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Speaker 5: President Carter or whatever, but they say former president. But like,

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Speaker 5: if you're on the plane. I saw a thing where

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Speaker 5: Jimmy Carter was walking around on an airplane and shook

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Speaker 5: everybody's hand recently, and like if I don't know if

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Speaker 5: I would want that, Like if I was on an airplane,

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Speaker 5: if I would just want like I want to just

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Speaker 5: around shaking everybody's hand, because you know that's going to

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Speaker 5: take a long time, right.

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Speaker 4: Right, It's like, Hey, I'm trying to get to San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: Exactly, like Jimmy, come on, this flight's already delayed. Like,

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Speaker 5: let's not press it. Flights are getting canceled left and right.

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Speaker 5: Like I thank you for the idea here and the

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Speaker 5: nice gesture, but also like I don't know if when

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Speaker 5: the last time you washed your hands and you're not

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Speaker 5: washing your hands between each person. So whatever, this person

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Speaker 5: I'm going to get from your hand like it's thank you,

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Speaker 5: but no thank you. Jimmy, Are you.

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Speaker 2: Telling former President Carter to get over himself?

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Speaker 5: I just feel like, let's fist BUTMP maybe, but also

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Speaker 2: It moving, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: Jim Bo, Yeah, yeah, I mean he wasn't a coach either.

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Speaker 4: He's taking up, he's clogging the he's clogging the aisle up.

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Speaker 4: People are trying to get their luggage jump. It's Jimmy Carter.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think I was even alive when

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven when Billy you want? You know, Billy you

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Speaker 5: The crazy thing about that though, it's like when I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I know it is crazy. I feel old.

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Speaker 4: I've never felt older, but I do, like I'm with you,

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Speaker 4: like I don't want Jimmy Carter, do me a favor,

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Speaker 4: don't need to shake your hand. Sit the fuck down.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to our destination. All right, you're holding up

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Speaker 5: Poor Jimmy Carter. But like, honestly, the shaking the hands

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Speaker 5: it's just like ninety seven. You know, hey, look I used.

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Speaker 2: To be president.

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Speaker 5: Poor guy.

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Speaker 2: What didn't do to us?

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Speaker 4: Jimmy nothing? He did absolutely nothing, Poor Jimmy Carter. What

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Speaker 4: do you think his carry on situation is? You think

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Speaker 4: like the bag carousel waiting for his bags at carousel three. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: anl airport, No, no, you would not. I can tell

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Speaker 4: you the guy that I would most want to come

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Speaker 4: shake my hand on an airplane.

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Speaker 2: It's Chris Simms. Really, what a weird transition, What a

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Speaker 2: coincidence he's on this show today?

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 2: Stupody. Let's get to Chris Simms.

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Speaker 4: Forty is a great indige, Like it is, like you're

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Speaker 4: feeling pretty good about yourself right now, like you still

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Speaker 4: look good. Wait till you get to fifty, by the way, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: right right, you start looking like me.

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Speaker 3: No, no, you're looking distinguished. You're looking good.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I've never looked worse.

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Speaker 4: I think you were like but I remember at forty

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Speaker 4: I felt the same way you felt, like, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: fucking coming into my own right now, I'm a fully

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's the best

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Speaker 3: looking I'm ever going to be. It's just I don't

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Speaker 3: you know, all your insecurities at forty, you don't really

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Speaker 3: I don't know, little things don't bother you anymore to

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Speaker 5: Very careful though, because I think that like the don't

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Speaker 5: years after that, which is where suc Gotts is that

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Speaker 5: this is a big year for Stu Gotts. He has

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Speaker 5: a birthday coming up. Yeah, a big one and to

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Speaker 5: his point, I mean, fifty has not looked the same

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you. I don't. Well, yes,

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Speaker 3: I hopefully two things like I like working out, and

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Speaker 3: I'm a pretty good eater, like you know Munchie's at nighttime. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 3: this time of the year, I'm not the best with

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Speaker 4: Here, No, Sims, You're gonna be fine. You're Sims. Okay,

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Speaker 4: Sim's like your dad's big fucker. He's still a good

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Speaker 4: looking man, like he is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he's all right.

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Speaker 2: How do you do that?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 4: How do you consume the amount of marijuana that you

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Speaker 2: How do those don't jive? Those things? Man?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm the end of the day or like this

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Speaker 3: time during the season. I'm only a weekend smoker. I'm

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Speaker 3: know right now, Yeah, I'm smoking every night. There's no doubt,

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Speaker 3: And I have a thing that I call where I

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Speaker 3: just go. It's my day is detox to retox. So

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Speaker 3: when I get done with this, I'm gonna go work

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Speaker 3: out hard. I'm gonna go sit in my infrared sauna

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Speaker 3: probably for about forty five minutes to an hour, eat

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Speaker 3: again with marijuana and vodka. And we'll just continue that

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Speaker 3: going over my break here.

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Speaker 4: I fucking love you so much. Billy had the same

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Speaker 4: reaction I had to the infrared. Whatever the hell he

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Speaker 4: was talking about? What happened there?

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Speaker 5: You have an infrared sauna at your house?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you gotta like one, Like I don't know if

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Speaker 3: this is your famous room with your window and paintings

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Speaker 3: behind you everything, I don't know, So it doesn't fit

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Speaker 3: in there, all right, But you gotts in his house

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Speaker 3: this new Levatard deal and all that, he can definitely

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Speaker 3: get an infrareds on it in his house. It's just

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Speaker 3: a wooden box. And they're amazing that the science has

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Speaker 4: Wait, hold on a second, describe some of the health benefits.

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Speaker 4: I can't afford one, and I might get it if

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Speaker 4: you can sell me on it right now.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's it's the it's the number one like detoxifying

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Speaker 3: thing you can really get on the market. I mean

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Speaker 3: because it heats you from the inside out. The infrared

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Speaker 3: heats the organs inside, so it gets your body heated

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Speaker 3: from that way and then it just pours out of you.

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Speaker 3: It's great for your skin, it's great for your circular uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, cardiovascular system. So again, you look it up.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and rate it all

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Speaker 3: to you, but it's good sunlighting. That's the one. I

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Speaker 3: get sunlightened infra red sauna. It's pretty damn good. Oh

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Speaker 3: plus plus Wait, this is why the best thing for

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Speaker 3: this time of the year. I get the workout in,

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Speaker 3: I do the infrared sauna, and then when I start

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Speaker 3: to smoke, it's like I haven't smoked in a week.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, oh man, this is awesome. So it's like

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Speaker 3: starting over from scratch every day. It's great.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing like that for smoke if they're not smoking

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Speaker 4: for a week. Right wait, Billy, I am looking up

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Speaker 4: infrared sauces right now.

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Speaker 2: Because I know you want to know what. I want

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Speaker 2: to know how.

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Speaker 4: Much of these fuckers coust Have you found one yet, Billy?

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Speaker 3: They're different sizes.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So do you have the one that's like a

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Speaker 5: garbage bag with a zipper that you put around here?

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Speaker 5: Do you have the one that's like a master bedroom?

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Speaker 5: It's enormous.

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Speaker 3: She's not gonna listen to this. No, she won't, And

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Speaker 2: So don't worry.

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Speaker 4: You've never gotten in trouble with anything you've ever said

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Speaker 5: What's that person up to now?

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Speaker 3: I don't with that person boyfriend, Yeah, we're supposed to

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Speaker 4: You again, Listen, you have a uncann the ability to

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Speaker 5: I know, well, because I was going to say, I

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Speaker 2: I was with Sims.

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Speaker 3: I'm going back to that guy.

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Speaker 2: I so badly want to know who the actor is.

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Speaker 3: I know, I'll tell you one day. Maybe let me

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Speaker 5: May no, don't do that. That's okay, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, Billy, he's checking with the wife off air first.

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Speaker 4: If she gives permission, then we won't the actor you want?

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Speaker 3: I can't tell you you've.

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Speaker 4: Learned SIMMSD of you?

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Speaker 5: I am how the hell did you get Arch Manning?

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Speaker 3: Oh, isn't that unbelievab Well, I'm shocked, I mean shocked.

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Speaker 3: I really didn't think like any Manning would leave SEC country.

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Speaker 3: I think, just because again Texas. Is there a more

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Speaker 3: that's what I hope that arch Manning can do for Texas.

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Speaker 3: That was a big time move. But I was surprised

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Speaker 4: I know you focus on the NFL quarterbacks and that's

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Speaker 3: Well, just a little like I saw like one of

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Speaker 3: that's for sure. I know at that school, the microscope

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Speaker 4: I think from your standpoint as somebody went to Texas,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he obviously has some people skills and some

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Speaker 4: Chris help me out this, because you hear that name

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Speaker 3: I think I think, first off, the scheme itself that

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Speaker 3: I'm not joking you, Like, there is very few people

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Speaker 4: Billy, did you see the piece of Sims and joe

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Speaker 2: Your man? I mean, I love you. I was so jealous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Well he just I've said this to a few people.

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Speaker 3: The confidence just exudes off of him. He's not looking

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Speaker 3: and it's Joe Burrow, and he's kind of changed that

436
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Speaker 3: organization around.

437
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 4: It's kind of like that quiet confidence, right, Joe Burrow

438
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,280
Speaker 4: knows he's good at stuff, Like he knows he's good

439
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040
Speaker 4: at this the most difficult position in sports. And then

440
00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,199
Speaker 4: he's just got that quiet confidence where, hey, I have

441
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,680
Speaker 4: to tell you how confident I am.

442
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 2: Just just just look, just look, and he's.

443
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 3: Not afraid to say, like, wait, I'm not perfect and

444
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 3: I need to get better. And I think that's the

445
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,200
Speaker 3: thing where if anybody wants to go back and watch

446
00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 3: the interview, because you know, I got into real football

447
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 3: mechanics stuff and quarterback stuff and all that. But at

448
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, hey, did Joe Burrow doubt

449
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 3: himself at some points in his career. He did. I mean,

450
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,080
Speaker 3: he was transferring Ohio State. He was like, I didn't know.

451
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,480
Speaker 3: I thought maybe I was gonna have to go be

452
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: an investment broker something like that. So you know, he

453
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: was very real with the situation. And here's the coolest thing.

454
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Speaker 2: I thought.

455
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: Stecott's year one, he has the good year. He hurts

456
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,639
Speaker 3: his knee year two, you know, and one of my

457
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:44,720
Speaker 3: complaints about him a little coming out of college. And

458
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 3: I think I told you this at the time, and

459
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Speaker 3: even year one, I just wish his arm was a

460
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Speaker 3: little stronger. He's got a good arm. Well, he evaluated

461
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 3: thyself and said, I do need to get better at that.

462
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: And he did some things mechanically to throw the ball

463
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Speaker 3: with more power this past year, and he kept discusses

464
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 3: what he did and why he did it and all

465
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: of that. I thought that was really cool for a

466
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 3: young guy to make that kind of mature adjustment that

467
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 3: early on in your career, when everybody's telling you you're

468
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 3: the fucking man, You're awesome, You're the man. And he

469
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 3: realized that he needed to get better. That's why he's

470
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Speaker 3: Joe B.

471
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Speaker 2: I love that shit.

472
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Speaker 4: I really YEA like a guy who's a pretty great

473
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 4: to a super Bowl, so this is how far we're

474
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Speaker 4: going to go every single year.

475
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: But he's not satisfied.

476
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 4: And even after he wins the Super Bowl, he still

477
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,400
Speaker 4: won't be satisfied. It's like that Jordan's shit, dude. That's

478
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 4: what Brady, you know it.

479
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: Is it's Jordan, it's myhome, you know. I think a

480
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: lot of the great quarterbacks have it. There's never satisfaction

481
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 3: there there really isn't you know that? I think every

482
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,719
Speaker 3: day there's in those kind of guys. They get up

483
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,479
Speaker 3: with the burn inside them to go. Wait. You know,

484
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 3: I still got people to prove wrong. I still have

485
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 3: more potential to tap into. I can be better, greater,

486
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Speaker 3: And I think that's why. You know, Burrow, Herbert Mahomes,

487
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, Rogers, Brady, you know, they have that special

488
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 3: attribute about them.

489
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Speaker 5: You guys consider yourself friends like you talk to him

490
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Speaker 5: after the piece at all. You guys may be exchange

491
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Speaker 5: messages from time to time.

492
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Speaker 3: Well he you know, we're not friends. Did he give

493
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Speaker 3: me his number? Yes?

494
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 4: Perkay, that's all we that's all we weally cared about. Yeah,

495
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 4: just get him on the show, you know, down the road.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, screw your show. I'm saving that number

497
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Speaker 3: for my own show.

498
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Speaker 5: I mean, like, if he's over ever ever in New Jersey,

499
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 5: maybe a little invite to the sauna something.

500
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Speaker 3: You We're not that friendly, Okay. I would like him

501
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 3: at all, but sweating next to a guy in a

502
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Speaker 3: wooden box and smelling him is not what I want

503
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Speaker 3: to do. Sorry, No matter how much I like him.

504
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Speaker 5: What I'm really trying to figure out is if like,

505
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Speaker 5: why you have him ahead of Aaron Rodgers on your

506
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Speaker 5: top four because.

507
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Speaker 3: He's better than Aaron?

508
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: But is he better than.

509
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Speaker 5: Him because he hung out with yeah, exactly before.

510
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

511
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Speaker 3: I made the ranking before and have hung out with

512
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Speaker 3: Rogers multiple times before this have the lead?

513
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Speaker 5: But when the last time, who'd you hang out with

514
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 5: more recently?

515
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 3: Well? Burrow?

516
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Speaker 4: Now, what if you hung out with Rogers like a

517
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Speaker 4: week later and then did the list?

518
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Speaker 2: What would happen?

519
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 3: Rogers you heard the list? He probably would have hung

520
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 3: out with me. He probably got Oh, it's screw you

521
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: were canceling our hangout session. You made me five Wait but.

522
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 4: Sims, you snap back at Billy. I understand why by

523
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:22,679
Speaker 4: the way, I've done it to.

524
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Speaker 2: It as well, got to.

525
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,360
Speaker 4: But but you really truly believe right now for this

526
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Speaker 4: season and this season alone, you think Joe Burrow is

527
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Speaker 4: a better quarterback.

528
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Speaker 2: But you do because you're right it that way, and

529
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Speaker 2: I know you would do it unless you feel it.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think most people will probably say, no, Sims,

531
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Speaker 4: you're crazy. I'll take Aaron Rodgers for one season, right.

532
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: I know they would. I know that's what most people do.

533
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,360
Speaker 3: That's that's why I'm here again. I'm here to tell

534
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: you that Matthew Stafford's been the top ten quarterback for

535
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Speaker 3: the last five years. I'm the guy that's been saying that.

536
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that told you Jared Goff wasn't very good.

537
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 3: I'm the guy that told you Bortals with seventy. I mean,

538
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: that's why I am this guy. I again not to

539
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,639
Speaker 3: say I'm always right, but I think you guys know

540
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 3: me enough to know here that I'm obsessed with it.

541
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: I work at it. I you know, do my homework.

542
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: I go back and do it again to make sure.

543
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 3: And that's where I'm trying to give a little nuance.

544
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 3: You know. Every year I have a few guys where

545
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,679
Speaker 3: people go, oh, I don't know, that's crazy, and I

546
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 3: want to go back and go back, especially at the

547
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Speaker 3: top of the list, and go back to the last

548
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: year and go, well, look, see everyone's calling me crazy

549
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 3: for some of these things. And for me here it

550
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 3: is Rogers is amazing. We know that he is. But

551
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: I think where Burrough separates himself, you know again, is

552
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: can do more of a less, more of an aggressive

553
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: decision maker, makes more off schedule plays. At this point

554
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 3: of his career. You know, is he as smart and

555
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: is a great decision maker as Aaron Rodgers. No, but

556
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: not so much less than that. He doesn't you know,

557
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 3: pass him up in some other areas. And you know, again,

558
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 3: when I went back and started to watch, you know,

559
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 3: a lot of the throws throughout the year, the one

560
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: thing I realized, like guys like Burrow and Herbert just

561
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 3: kept getting better and better. And it's the end of

562
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: the year where I started to go, damn, great decisions,

563
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 3: whoa great throw, great anticipation, holy crap reading the coverage year,

564
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, getting out of the pocket making this play.

565
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy went to the Super Bowl with

566
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: the worst fucking offensive line I've ever seen in the

567
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So that's itself now. And here's the other thing.

568
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 3: And then as they started to go along, Rogers again amazing.

569
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 3: But to me, Rogers, as I watched it, and he's

570
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 3: been dabbling with this a little the last years, it's

571
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: it's the game is a little too political and careful

572
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 3: for him right now. And to use it as a

573
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Speaker 3: big picture. The forty nine Ers game in the playoff game,

574
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: to me, it was the microcosm of really things we

575
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 3: saw all year from Rogers, but they won a lot

576
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: of the games, and so we didn't dissect it. But like,

577
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 3: there's no way Burrow or Herbert go down the way

578
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: Rogers did in that forty nine Ers game. And there's

579
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Speaker 3: other games that I'll go back to here in a minute,

580
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 3: but there was I showed up Pro Football Talk a

581
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: lot of plays where people are open fifteen twenty yards

582
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: down the field in that game, and Rogers is, oh,

583
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,679
Speaker 3: you know, it's the forty nine Ers, their pass rush,

584
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: and you know we're a little bit better, and we'll

585
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: just execute and not screw up, and we'll win the

586
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: game that way. Not in playoff football against really good teams,

587
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 3: because you know what happens. Those teams hang around and

588
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden they block a punt and

589
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 3: you go, oh my gosh, the game's tied, and it

590
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 3: shouldn't have been tied. It should have been Packers up

591
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 3: by fourteen, Packers up by twenty. And that, to me

592
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 3: is really the difference between Herbert and Burrow right now

593
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 3: than Rogers. And there's other games that would emphasize those

594
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 3: points too. You can go to Cleveland game against Green Bay,

595
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 3: the Ravens game against green Bay. Green Bay wins. Those

596
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 3: games had big leads. Rogers doesn't put the foot on

597
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: the throat, lets them come back and they almost lose.

598
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of that throughout the year, And

599
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 3: that to me is where you know, I think you

600
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: know those two, especially Burrow past Rogers up.

601
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 4: I love that type of stuff because what Chris is

602
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: saying here, and he's probably right, is Joe Burrow's mentality

603
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: is no, I'm gonna go win this motherfucker, and I'm

604
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: gonna go win it right now.

605
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, it translates to big game football. And

606
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: we're getting here in the top five. I mean, it's nitpicky,

607
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: we're talking about superstars. You were awesome. And when I

608
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 3: started to get going, I'm going, all right, wait, how

609
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 3: am I gonna man, these guys are so freaking good.

610
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: How am I going to start to make some differences here?

611
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 3: You know again, this is about right now, We're all

612
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 3: in the same offense, all right. We donn have Shanahannah

613
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: McDaniels to give us all these crazy advantages or anything

614
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 3: like that. We just have a basic offense. And then

615
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: I go physical ability, right, I go decision making, I

616
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 3: go leadership, and effect on the football team, and then

617
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: the ability to move in the pocket, get out of

618
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: the pocket, and do all that stuff. Those are my

619
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 3: four categories there, and that, to me is where Burrow

620
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 3: wins in every one of those categories in my opinion,

621
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: other than maybe decision making. And it's not that he's

622
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: that far off. And yes, to your point, big game football,

623
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: the NFL right now is made for the quarterbacks to

624
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: go win the game at the end. It's made for

625
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 3: the way the rules are set up, the way the

626
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: receivers are and to me, that's one of the issues

627
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,120
Speaker 3: with Rogers right now. And we've seen this a few

628
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: years in a row. I mean, we can go back

629
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: to the Tampa Bay game the year before that and

630
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 3: kind of say the same things in the NFC Championship game.

631
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: It's the one thing I give Brady a lot of

632
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 3: respect for. Brady goes down swinging now at this point

633
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: of his career, where Rogers, I feel like, is a

634
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 3: little concerned with the headline and how it's going to

635
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 3: be perceived and is it going to be my fall

636
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: and all of those things go into it, and that

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: is not conducive of the big game football.

638
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: And the pressure to win a second Super Bowl, right, Listen,

639
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: the best example I can give you AFC Championship game.

640
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 4: Both those motherfuckers were going to try to win that

641
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 4: game a home then Josh Allen, Josh Allen for you,

642
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: was the best quarterback in the NFL right now. And

643
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: Mahomes of course is the top three guy.

644
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: I think he's number one, is the number two two.

645
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 4: But listen, one of them was going to lose, but

646
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 4: both guys were trying to win that goddamn game.

647
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: Man. Yeah, yeah, no doubt about it. And that wasn't

648
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 3: the AFC Championship game, right, that was a division divisional. Yeah,

649
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: either way, it was still a great game. But you know,

650
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 3: you know, just one more thing just to even emphasize

651
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Speaker 3: the point on Burrow, just one thing, like, hey, just

652
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Speaker 3: to look at this, like Burrow had eleven less completions

653
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Speaker 3: than Aaron Rodgers this year and through them and through

654
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Speaker 3: for five hundred more yards, and it just kind of

655
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 3: tells you the aggressive pressure he puts on you, you know,

656
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: on a game by game basis. So just wanted to

657
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Speaker 3: make that last point.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what's the don't be sorry about?

659
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Speaker 3: Well, I just because I got off topic. Josh Allen

660
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: is the best quarterback in football for my money right now.

661
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 3: I do think him and Mahomes are a little bit

662
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: of a class of their own. I'd go, they're one

663
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: and one A and then we got, you know, the

664
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Speaker 3: other three guys behind them. To me, yeah, they're phenomenal. Alan,

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Speaker 3: He's it's him or Mahomes with the greatest arm in

666
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Speaker 3: the sport. I think his arm is more explosive than Mahomes,

667
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,239
Speaker 3: maybe not as creative. And you know, the magician Mahomes is.

668
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: Alan's the best running quarterback in the sport not named

669
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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson. There's nobody better running the ball in football

670
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: than him. And then you talk about, you know, effect

671
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 3: on the team leaderships, all great pocket all that. To me,

672
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: this is where Alan passed up Mahomes this year, Alan,

673
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Speaker 3: and you will remember this, we went through some times

674
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Speaker 3: during the middle of the year. Mahomes went through a

675
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 3: four or five week stretch of really playing below average football,

676
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Speaker 3: like really below average. And it wasn't because of the

677
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 3: team or anything. He was undisciplined in the pocket. He

678
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Speaker 3: was leaving the pocket when he didn't have to, he

679
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: was floating into sacks, he was being way too aggressive

680
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: with decision making. You're going, hey, there's a guy open

681
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 3: for eight yards a year just to throw it. Why

682
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: are we throwing the post down the middle in the

683
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Speaker 3: triple coverage. So there was a lot of that, and

684
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Speaker 3: to me, really, Alan I think has played cleaner football

685
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: the last two year years. Really, but I thought for

686
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: sure clearly this year and you know it doesn't. These

687
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: are both my guys, you know that. I mean, I

688
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 3: am who I am a little bit because of these

689
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: two guys. I love them both, but I think Allen

690
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: has got a little edge on Mahomes right now as

691
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Speaker 3: we go into the season Unbutton podcast.

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Speaker 4: Check them out right there, PFT with Mike Florio at

693
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Speaker 4: NBC and Peacock also Football Night in America seasons I

694
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 4: don't know, seventy some odd days away.

695
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Speaker 2: I'm getting excited. It's just us in baseball right now.

696
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 2: I need a fun I.

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Speaker 4: Know, what's been the most controversial thing on your You

698
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Speaker 4: just did your top forty quarterbacks. We're talking about it

699
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Speaker 4: right now. What's the what's the what's the thing or

700
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Speaker 4: the ranking that you created where you've received the most

701
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Speaker 4: amount of blowback?

702
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Speaker 3: You know, I think I thought Baron Rodgers well, it is.

703
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Speaker 3: Rogers is definitely one of them, There's no doubt.

704
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Speaker 5: I think it was a little low there.

705
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, yeah, I knew you'd bring that up.

706
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Speaker 2: Thatak Wilson, OHI you know it so good.

707
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Rogers that one was certainly one. You know,

708
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Speaker 3: I always you always think your Brady, like, how is

709
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Speaker 3: Brady not number one? And okay, Brady's amazing. So there

710
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: was a little I think there. I think the other

711
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: when we got into some other areas, Yes, we can

712
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Speaker 3: get into like the Jalen Hurts at twenty five and

713
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: I had the three rookies and Daniel Jones ahead of him.

714
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 3: That was kind of controversial at the time as well

715
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Speaker 3: when I kind of unveiled that part of the rankings.

716
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Speaker 3: So I think those are probably the ones that jump

717
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Speaker 3: out the most. And of course two and non is

718
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: is always prevalent in this conversation.

719
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Speaker 2: Wait, I'll get to do it a second.

720
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Speaker 4: But what was the deal with so people who are

721
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Speaker 4: upset that you had the three, Well, you had the

722
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Speaker 4: three second year guys. Yeah, Wilson twenty two, Yeah, Daniel

723
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Speaker 4: Jones twenty one, you had Wilson twenty two, You had

724
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Speaker 4: Field at twenty three Lawrence of twenty four, Hurts at

725
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Speaker 4: twenty five? Why are people defending Jalen Hurts? So, I

726
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 4: know we had a decent year last year, but I mean,

727
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: do me a favor fucking do something in the playoffs?

728
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Speaker 3: The guy? Well, well yeah, I mean that's that's you know,

729
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: that's that's the problem. See people just see whoa they

730
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: team won. They went to the playoffs. He's the quarterback.

731
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Speaker 2: So he had a talented team. I mean, off the.

732
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Speaker 3: Charts talented, best offensive line in football, stars at receiver,

733
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Speaker 3: good tight end, great defensive line. I mean, yeah, they're

734
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: really good. You know, the biggest question mark on their

735
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 3: football team is their quarterback. That's where I want to

736
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Speaker 3: just go. You know, Eagles fans are a little you know,

737
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Speaker 3: biased in this conversation, but where I push back and gone.

738
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Speaker 3: You know, first off, like Hurts, I like a lot

739
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Speaker 3: of what he does. There's no doubt he's a good athlete.

740
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Speaker 3: You know, he is pretty smart and decision making. He's

741
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 3: a great leader that way. But his throwing is below

742
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Speaker 3: average NFL throwing. I don't know what to say it,

743
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: you know, and when they can't dominate with teams with

744
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Speaker 3: the run game, like your playoff game you're talking about,

745
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Speaker 3: or a Giants game in the Meadowlands. Because the Giants

746
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: have a big defensive line, they slowed down the run game.

747
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Speaker 3: Anytime you kind of saw that formula right there, what happened.

748
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 3: Eagles couldn't do shit on offense. You know, they can't

749
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Speaker 3: rely on the passing game. So that I just that's

750
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Speaker 3: to me the biggest question mark. I mean, I don't

751
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 3: you put you know, Daniel Jones, Zach Wilson, Trevor Lawrence

752
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: justin fields with the Eagles. Eagles fans can say all

753
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: they want. They're more excited about the year than they

754
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 3: would be if they had Jalen Hurts as the quarterback.

755
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 3: They'd all be going, whoa, we got a guy that's

756
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: they're just getting better and they're they're they're already better

757
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 3: throwers and make more like high degree difficulty of throws

758
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Speaker 3: in the pocket. So that's where you know that I'm

759
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 3: here to tell you here's team and all these great things,

760
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Speaker 3: and I'm just trying to tell you I think these

761
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 3: guys are a little bit better, especially with the growth

762
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Speaker 3: between we are one and year two.

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Speaker 4: Chris, I'll take it one step further, just to kind

764
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Speaker 4: of shed some light on how talented the Eagles are

765
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Speaker 4: and that offensive line. There are quarterbacks you have ranked

766
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Speaker 4: at the top ten. I promise you this, they would

767
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 4: leave their team today and sprint to the Eagles and

768
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Speaker 4: go play quarterback for that team. That's how good and

769
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Speaker 4: talented that team is.

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Speaker 3: Howie Roseman has done an unbelievable job of retooling that

771
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Speaker 3: football team. And yeah, yes, I mean again, I don't

772
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Speaker 3: think there's you might not say that in the best

773
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Speaker 3: offensive line of football. I do anybody you talk to

774
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: a football and I tell you they're one of the

775
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: top three, right, And then when you now add Davonte

776
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 3: Smith with AJ Brown, you know, and Watkins and Rieger

777
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Speaker 3: and Dallas Goddard, I mean, holy shit, Batman, that team is.

778
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Speaker 3: They're stacked.

779
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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 3: They're a little bit like two of with the Dolphins.

781
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Speaker 3: There will be no excuse. You're gonna know at the

782
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Speaker 3: end of the year whether your quarterback is your guy

783
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Speaker 3: for sure or not. The team is too good, and

784
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 3: if it fails, it's the spotlight's going to be on

785
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. In those two situations.

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Speaker 2: Billy, you had something too. I'm sorry about that.

787
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Speaker 5: No, I mean, I just you know, I know he

788
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 5: has a he has a soft spot for two in

789
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Speaker 5: his heart, even though he doesn't want to show it.

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Speaker 4: You, I would say two what Jalen hurts have the

791
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 4: most amount of pressure headed into the season, like.

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Speaker 2: They're up there. Agreed, Agreed, you have Baker at seventeen.

793
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Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 5: I mean if they don't trade Baker and Deshaun gets

795
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: suspended for the year, is there just Baker just says

796
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 5: I'm not playing for the Browns and just doesn't show up.

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00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 3: Yes, he's not playing for the Browns. And the Browns

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Speaker 3: I mean, as stupid as they've done some things here

799
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Speaker 3: this offseason, would be even more stupid to want Baker

800
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Speaker 3: Mayfield to come in and be their quarterback. Like I've

801
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 3: seen some people going like, oh, Baker and Midfield needs

802
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: the Browns. He needs to go play for the Browns.

803
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: What you want your quarterback in your locker room who

804
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: hates your fucking organization and now is gonna have the

805
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 3: biggest voice in the locker room. You want him to

806
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: be there, and you think that's gonna be a good

807
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 3: thing for your football team on a daily base, like,

808
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here? What are people thinking

809
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: it's a team game, it's camaraderie. It's all about everybody

810
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: fuddy for one goal, and one guy's gonna be the

811
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 3: guy that's gonna be leading the charges and be like,

812
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 3: fuck this place. They're screwing me over. What a bunch

813
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 3: of assholes. Oh I was a little late today, or

814
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: oh I didn't care about the detail this, fuck this,

815
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 3: fuck that. That's a horrible precedent to set in your team.

816
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Speaker 3: There's no way he's going back to Cleveland, no way.

817
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: So where's he gonna go? Like, how's this gonna play

818
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: out for Baker? Because I mean, of course you haven't

819
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: ranked your top twenty quarterbacks. Yeah, well, he'd be an

820
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 4: upgrade for a lot of.

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Speaker 5: Teams, especially if the Shawn suspense. What's he gonna do?

822
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Speaker 5: How's it gonna look for him? If he just decides

823
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 5: I'm not playing this year because I don't want.

824
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Speaker 2: To go there.

825
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, Chris is saying he's not playing there,

826
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Speaker 4: though it doesn't matter under any circumstance.

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Speaker 2: He ain't playing there.

828
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Speaker 3: No, he's not playing there. He's gonna get end up

829
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Speaker 3: in Carolina or maybe even a Seattle or maybe there's

830
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 3: another team out there. That I'm not, you know, you know,

831
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 3: seeing eye to eye here with the situation. But he

832
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: is a starting NFL quarterback and a good one at that. Again,

833
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: he's the perfect example of I would say, any quarterback

834
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Speaker 3: going into a contract year and you're a little bagged up,

835
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 3: don't fucking play because the league in the media will

836
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: use it against you and tell you you weren't good

837
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: because of that. And then hey, the other thing that

838
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: gets lost in translation of my opinion is really the

839
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: amount of how the Cleveland brown screwed over Baker Mayfield

840
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 3: in this situation. I mean, it's one of the ultimate

841
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: fuckover jobs like we've seen in recent history. Number one

842
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: pick made us relevant again, took us to the playoffs.

843
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna get into some contract conversations. You're

844
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: our guy, they say publicly going forward, and then a

845
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: few weeks later say, oh, we're gonna go for it

846
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 3: with Deshaun Watson. You're okay with that, right? Oh no,

847
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: you're not. Oh, and then hold on to him that

848
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: late in the process to where there's all these seats

849
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: are build. I mean, that's the ultimate screw. I've lost

850
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: respect for the Browns in a lot of ways. For

851
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: the way they've handled this. And I don't want to

852
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: blame Kevin Stefanski because I don't think it's his fall,

853
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 3: but they have messed the situation up, and he's a

854
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: starting QB, starting quarterback in the NFL. There's no doubt

855
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: who has top ten talent, and that's where you know

856
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: he'll show it again when he gets healthy and gets

857
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: in the right spot.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people have lost a lot

859
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 4: of respect for the Browns. Mike Ryan, who was a

860
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 4: lifelong Browns fan, is claiming now that he is no

861
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 4: longer a Browns fan because he doesn't like the the decisions,

862
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: and you're right, Baker to an extent, got penalized for

863
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 4: doing all the things you want your quarterback to dig.

864
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,399
Speaker 4: He toughed it out, he played with pain, He did

865
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 4: the best that he could under those circumstances. And the

866
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 4: reward a guy with multiple off the field issues with

867
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 4: the richest contract in the history of the NFL makes

868
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 4: no sense.

869
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: It makes no sense.

870
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 4: So a lot of people will probably feel the same

871
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 4: way that you feel about the Cleveland Browns.

872
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: I thought one of the interesting things.

873
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 4: In your list the second year guys are interesting because

874
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 4: it looks like you expect mac Jones to be the

875
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 4: best of the second year guys, or at least make

876
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 4: the biggest jump of all the guys who are rookies

877
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: last year.

878
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: I think he's the best right now for.

879
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: The best situation, I should say.

880
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think where he is at right now

881
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: is see I'm gonna I think he's better than those guys.

882
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 3: They're just some things on the field that he does

883
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 3: that's a little bit more advanced. You could trust him

884
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 3: with the football. He showed the ability to be more

885
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 3: a little more aggressive and more of a power thrower.

886
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, I think that's only

887
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 3: going to improve. Really, honestly, listen, the second year have

888
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 3: guys that I've been traditionally low on. That's one thing

889
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: when I went back and self scattered myself a little

890
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 3: bit about previous ones where years where I've had, like,

891
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 3: you know, I made my homes like ten and people

892
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: are like, that's crazy, you made them ten. And I

893
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: the year was over and I said, he should have

894
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: been four. I was an idiot. He should have been

895
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: way above that. Herbert and Burrow last year, Burrough had

896
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: the injury, but Herbert, I made eleven. In my heart

897
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 3: of hearts, there was a part of me I was like, man,

898
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 3: I think he's above that, but oh, you know, he's

899
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: a rookie. I need to see a little bit more

900
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: and I need to just trust my instinct that way

901
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 3: a little bit. So I think one all four of

902
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: these rookie or you know, second year guys have big talent.

903
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: They really do. And I think that they showed growth

904
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: at the end of the football year, and I'm projecting

905
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 3: even more growth here in the offseason. Of course, this

906
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: is where you make your biggest jump as an NFL quarterback.

907
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Mac is not the most talented

908
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: of this group of those guys, but right now definitely

909
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: the best and capable of playing the most high level football.

910
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 4: I thought the Jets had a very good offseason. I've

911
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 4: said that before. I've been wrong every time I've said it.

912
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 4: What are you seeing out of Zach Wilson now that

913
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: maybe would be, you know, encouraging for Jet fans and

914
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 4: moving forward? Are you seeing anything different from Zach Wilson

915
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 4: now he puts the work in sims.

916
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 2: I can see that. You know, we don't work, no

917
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 2: doubt about it.

918
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: They love Zach Wilson, and they should. He does, all right.

919
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,399
Speaker 3: You know, he's the guy that you know we're kind

920
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: of talking about where we're talking about Joe Burrow, other

921
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 3: quarterbacks like that, where he lives it. You know, he

922
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: loves it. He brings it home with him and he's

923
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: obsessed with it. He wants to be great. He has

924
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 3: great talent. One thing when I went back and watched it,

925
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: first off, I love the Jets offseason I do. The

926
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: Jets to me are one of those teams that I

927
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: would put an asterisk next to and go watch out for.

928
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: There's only one problem. They have the toughest first ten

929
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 3: game schedule in the NFL. It's brutal. It's three years

930
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: in a row where the poor Jets just have the

931
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 3: best teams in football on their schedule to start the season.

932
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: So they never gain any confidence or get any growth

933
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: because they're always like, oh shit, we're all in three

934
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: and you know, we're fighting for our life. But the

935
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: one thing that I look at with Wilson as I

936
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: went back and watched when he came back from the injury,

937
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: all right, first off, he's got special physical ability. Like

938
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: we talked about the arm. When you watch it, compared

939
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 3: to the other rookies or any any quarterback. Really, you

940
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 3: turn on the film and go, whoa, whoa. That ball's

941
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 3: traveling at a different speed than most quarterbacks and football.

942
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: We know he can run and move and do all that.

943
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 3: But other than Mac Jones Zach Wilson, here's the big

944
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: thing that jumped out to me. He ran the most

945
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,439
Speaker 3: pro style offense, the most legit NFL. Hey, quarterback, we're

946
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: not babying you as a rookie. You're doing that. We're

947
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: making you read real schemes in the middle of the

948
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: field and make tight throws and the tight windows fifteen

949
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: twenty yards down in the middle of the football field.

950
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: He was asked to do that more than any of

951
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: the rookies, for sure. And at the end of the year,

952
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 3: last five four or five games there, man, he was

953
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 3: making a lot of high level decisions with high level

954
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: throws that yeah, I'm a fan of them, I really am.

955
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: And you know, again, some of the struggles when you

956
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 3: go back and watch that, Yeah he missed some throws

957
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 3: here and there. But shit, they were the most banged

958
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 3: up team in football the first seven or eight weeks.

959
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean, receivers were hurt running backs were hurt. Oh

960
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 3: line was hurt. Defensive players were falling down left and right.

961
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: So once they got their feet underneath them, I think

962
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: you saw a little more than true, Zach Wilson.

963
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 4: At the end of the year, I hear you in

964
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 4: the schedule. The mentality I want is that Joe Burrow mentality. Hey,

965
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: I don't give a fuck who the first ten games

966
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 4: are against. I'm Joe Burrow.

967
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.

968
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: Beat yeah, you know, yeah, No, I hear you. That's

969
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: I need some And that's that's what they're gonna need.

970
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to overcome some of that and find

971
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 3: some battle tough for, you know, some some toughness in

972
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: them to win a few of those games.

973
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: All right, we'll get you out of here. But I

974
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: noticed you had Garoppolo ahead of Trey Lance. So what

975
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 4: is what's your boy, Kyle Shanahan saying about trailer? What's

976
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 4: happening here? Man, Well, I mean your ranking, don't read

977
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: into it. I think Trey Lance is the guy.

978
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 3: But yeah, right, I mean I don't think he will

979
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 3: be on the roster, And when all said and done,

980
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: I don't again a little bit like we talked about

981
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: with Cleveland. To me, it's just like you're you're you're

982
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: asking to fuck up a Super Bowl formula about having

983
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance in the same locker room.

984
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna divide the locker room. You're gonna cause media

985
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 3: attention and frenzy all the time. You're gonna hinder the

986
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,439
Speaker 3: development of Trey Lance. Jimmy Garoppolo is better than Trey

987
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: Lance right now. He is, There's no doubt about that.

988
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 3: But where this is where again, there's a fine line here.

989
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 3: This is a good conversation. That doesn't mean that the

990
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 3: forty nine ers can't be more dangerous with Trey Lance

991
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 3: at quarterback.

992
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Interesting again, in.

993
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 3: The Shanahan offense, we're not you know, for my quarterback rankings, again,

994
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: we don't have Shanahan to divide some brilliant game plan

995
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: around a guy who has strengths and weaknesses in certain areas.

996
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 3: You know. So that's so where I look at it

997
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 3: and go, yeah, Jimmy Garoppo fits in more offenses, he

998
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: can play the position more true to form. But in

999
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: the Shanahan offense, with all the shit he's got going

1000
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: and runs and play actions and all of that, and

1001
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 3: then quarterback design runs. Okay, yeah, you might miss a

1002
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 3: few completions during the game, Trey Lance, but it doesn't

1003
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 3: mean the forty nine Ers offense won't be more dangerous.

1004
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to be more scared of the ball

1005
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: being thrown deep down the field. You're gonna be more

1006
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 3: scared of the quarterback scrambling the quarterback design runs, and

1007
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 3: then some of the stuff he does off of that

1008
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 3: to where yeah, it might not be quarterback rating machine

1009
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 3: like precision like offense, but I still think the forty

1010
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 3: nine Ers are super Bowl team even with Trey Lance

1011
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback, and Shanahan will find ways to formulate plans

1012
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: around him that will help him out.

1013
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: It was an upside play and so we'll see, yeah, yeah,

1014
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: we'll go right.

1015
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: So with Garoppolo and Baker, I think, like listen, it

1016
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 4: happens every year, like quarterbacks are gonna go down during

1017
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 4: training camp of the preseason. So it's it's just that

1018
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 4: those who are just waiting for the right opportunity, right.

1019
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: I think. I mean, you know, again, with the I

1020
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: think with Garoppolo in that situation, he probably didn't like

1021
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: some of the rooms he heard where he was gonna

1022
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: get traded or the warnings he was getting from his agent,

1023
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 3: and that's why he went to have shoulder surgery and said,

1024
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: the hell with that. Wait, I'm gonna take this power

1025
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: back into my into my corner here, and you know,

1026
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna dictate the situation a little bit. But yeah,

1027
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 3: I mean I would. The Texans are still a team

1028
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 3: I would look at for Garoppolo. You know, that New

1029
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,919
Speaker 3: England regime there, so that Carolina. I certainly can still

1030
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: see that being a play. You know. I wonder if

1031
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: Seattle would really get into that conversation with Garoppolo. I

1032
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 3: could see them more getting into Baker Mayfield. I lay,

1033
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 3: I feel like the Garoppolo. But I do think, well,

1034
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 3: they'll they'll have suitors out there. I do. I just

1035
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna be what the forty nine

1036
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 3: ers want. I think ultimately they're gonna have to release

1037
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: Jimmy Garoppolo and just let him pick his team because

1038
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 3: they can't keep him on the books for twenty five million,

1039
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: and nobody's gonna trade a lot for him because everybody

1040
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: knows they don't want to keep him there in San Francisco.

1041
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: And you know, Kyle knows that, right, you probably knows.

1042
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: I mean I think I don't know. You know again,

1043
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: with that conversation, that's not something that Kyle and I

1044
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 3: get into, and I think, like, you know, hey, he's

1045
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,240
Speaker 3: he's got a goal in his mind. So he's probably

1046
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: blinded by what he wants and what he wants and

1047
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: what he thinks he can get for Jimmy Garoppolo and

1048
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: whether that's realistic or not, I don't know. We'll see.

1049
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 4: You talked to Kyle about infrared saunas and ship right,

1050
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 4: I mean that's what.

1051
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 3: I have actually before. Yes, it's been a while. Yes,

1052
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: he's had that conversation.

1053
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm obsessed with I'm wondering what else he has

1054
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 5: in his house that he's not telling us about.

1055
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 3: One day, Well, we'll invite you. You know, I got

1056
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: the farm here though, I mean, you know what it. Well,

1057
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 3: so I got, I got, I got. I've told you Reda.

1058
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: We have two horses, we have chickens, a rooster, two

1059
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 3: African geese, bee hives, our own maple syrup, garden, vegetables

1060
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 3: and fruit. So that's what we got at the house.

1061
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 3: We're living like the old farm life over here at

1062
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 3: the Sim's household and to make it all work.

1063
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 4: We love you, dude, but podcast PM, you're real likewing

1064
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 4: the field out there like a window and.

1065
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 2: He lives off nature.

1066
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 5: When's the last time you checked out your farm?

1067
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: Oh? When's the last time I checked it out? Yeah?

1068
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: Did anything out there?

1069
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 3: Like? Yeah, I held out a little bit. I don't

1070
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 3: do a lot, but like, my daughter is the one

1071
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 3: that really runs it. So I'm like, I'm the guy

1072
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: that's out in the yard a lot looking at things,

1073
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 3: checking it out, but doing a lot of the yard work.

1074
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 4: No, not happening, this big fucker ever give you how's

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Speaker 4: the form?

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Speaker 3: Grisly, that's how we got the African geese. Like, I

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Speaker 3: go to his So somebody left African geese in a

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Speaker 3: parking lot by his home, right, some stupid human who

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Speaker 3: got plats and was like, oh I can't handle these pets. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're stupid human, we know. So now he feels bad.

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Speaker 3: He sees these geese in a parking lot. He put

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Speaker 3: them in the back of his car. He brought him

1083
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Speaker 3: home and we come there for my nephew's two year

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Speaker 3: old birthday. And at the end of the party, they're like,

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Speaker 3: can you guys take the geese home? Can you take

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Speaker 3: the geese home? And I'm like, wait, I have two kids,

1087
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Speaker 3: i have two dogs in the car, and you want

1088
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Speaker 3: me to put geese in the car with my ninety

1089
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: pound German shepherd? Like what what is it? We went

1090
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Speaker 3: back and got it the next day. But now they're

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Speaker 3: they're here.

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Speaker 5: Is it possible your dad stole someone's geese that was

1093
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Speaker 5: just wandering?

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Speaker 3: No, no, it was like if they were wandering, they

1095
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: were wandering really far away, like if they were at

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Speaker 3: a wreck field and a huge parking lot. There's no

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Speaker 3: way they just wandered there.

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fucker just throwing them in the car. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Christopher will take these.

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Speaker 3: It'll be He's got a back there, exactly, Christopher. I'll

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Speaker 3: give the Christopher, I'll make the Hamburgers today and then

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Speaker 3: give me some aberging geese.

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Speaker 4: Football Night in America.

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Speaker 2: He is our friend, Chris Sis. It's been way too long.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate it to you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, always always love it you The

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Speaker 3: man Billy liked the new background all right, thanks Scott,