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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Bill's Mafia. Happy to have you with us

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Speaker 2: as we've reached December and Week fourteen, where the eight

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Speaker 2: and four Buffalo Bills play host to the four and

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Speaker 2: eighth Cincinnati Bengals. Here at high Mark Stadium at Orchard Park.

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Speaker 2: Back to pass, look into the end zone for Higgins

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Speaker 2: and he pulls it in.

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Speaker 3: It's a touchdown twenty two yards as T Higgins just

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Speaker 3: big boyd Max Harston.

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Speaker 4: Here's a snap back.

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Speaker 2: To pass, has time, nobody opened, rolling right, nowhere to go.

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Speaker 3: He's hemmed in. Fire's late that it's complete to secure

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Speaker 3: in the end zone for a touchdown. He waited until

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Speaker 3: the last possible second, and it's an eleven yard touchdown

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Speaker 3: pass as he whistled.

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Speaker 2: It behind the ear of a defender.

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Speaker 3: Here's a snap back to pass looking left, has time,

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Speaker 3: pumps now retreats, rolls to his right, throws looking for

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Speaker 3: the front pylon.

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Speaker 2: It's taught after a view.

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Speaker 4: The receiver had been from the.

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Speaker 2: Ball and was touched by the defender. With the ball

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Speaker 2: breaking the playing the goal line.

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Speaker 3: It is a touchdown and the Bengals are three for

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Speaker 3: three on offensive possessions.

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Speaker 2: They lead twenty one to eleven.

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Speaker 3: Allen back to pass Piers Cocaine touchdown Buffalo a six

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Speaker 3: yard touchdown reception. Welcome back Jonton Kincavee hand off to Cook,

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Speaker 3: bounces it outside, stretches for the goal line, and he

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Speaker 3: fuffled the football.

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Speaker 2: It's a touchback round to the right of Burrow in

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Speaker 2: the shatka.

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Speaker 3: On second and seven from the twelfth, Bills are crossed

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Speaker 3: up defensively. Here's the snap back to pass pressure coming

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Speaker 3: steps up in the pocket wide opening the end zone

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Speaker 3: is Mike Kasiki for a twelve yard touchdown reception back

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Speaker 3: to pass Blitz coming.

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Speaker 2: Alan steps up in the pocket forty thirty down to

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Speaker 4: Alan looking for the.

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Speaker 3: End zone and he's in for a forty yard touchdown.

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Speaker 4: Rip.

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Speaker 2: Dumb beast has been run.

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Speaker 3: Lease, My goodness, what a touchdown run by Alan. Everyone's

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Speaker 3: back was turned and there was nothing but white snow

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Speaker 3: in front of.

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Speaker 2: Alan to run through.

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Speaker 3: Dashing through the snow to the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Round belone set back receiver to.

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Speaker 3: Each side and it's intercepted. Jumping up in the air

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Speaker 3: is Bedford gets away from barrel thirty twenty ten five.

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Speaker 3: The REFC Defensive Player of the Week has done it again,

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Speaker 3: Christian Bedford within a go ahead touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Here's the snap back to pass pressure coming.

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Speaker 3: Passes Manning on the air, intercepted by a Vanessa dropped.

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Speaker 2: At the twenty nine yard line.

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Speaker 3: Here's the snap back to pass nobody opened pumps looking right,

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Speaker 3: fires and wide open in the end zone is Jackson

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Speaker 3: Hawes and it's snow angel time in the.

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Speaker 2: End zone for Buffalo. Here's the snap Blitz coming off

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Speaker 2: the corner looking down the right side for Higgins, who

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Speaker 2: pulls it in one handed for a twenty five yard

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Speaker 2: touchdown reception. He beat Tredavius White for the score. Here's

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Speaker 2: a snap back to pass pumps Flitz coming steps up

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Speaker 2: in the pocket, Alane to run looking for the first

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Speaker 3: Gets away for the defender and he's got it and

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Speaker 3: slides down to the forty three yard line.

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Speaker 2: How is he not your MVP?

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Speaker 3: Eighteen yards on the scramble by Allen on third and fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen calls game there.

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Speaker 2: For the first time.

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Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills are gonna get the best of Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals as they win thirty nine

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Speaker 3: thirty four to improve to nine and four on the season.

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Speaker 5: Whoo.

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Speaker 2: dot org. My goodness, that was ridunculous, absolutely nuts. What

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Speaker 2: a game yesterday, Holy crow.

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Speaker 4: I keep saying that game was drunk. It was.

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Speaker 6: You talk about Josh and everybody's talking about how awesome

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Speaker 6: it was to see him do that. The forty yard

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Speaker 6: touchdown run, the throw to Khalil Shakir, the game, the

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Speaker 6: play that iced it on the third and fifteen he

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Speaker 6: ran for seventeen. Yes, all of that is so true.

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Speaker 6: The throat to Jackson Hawes, all of that's true. But

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Speaker 6: you go back and watch that game, there were that

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Speaker 6: many more plays that were more subtle, that were equally

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Speaker 6: as important that he made. You know, a scramble on

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Speaker 6: a I don't know what it was, a third and

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Speaker 6: the first down in the first half, the throw the

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Speaker 6: four for seventeen yards. This and I said this on

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Speaker 6: the post game last night. The play that gets lost

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Speaker 6: in all this the intelligence and discipline Josh showed on

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Speaker 6: the second and ten play or second and eight play

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Speaker 6: where he took the sack at the end of the

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Speaker 6: game to set up the third and fifteen not throwing

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Speaker 6: that ball and just eating it and taking the sack.

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Speaker 4: Fineun the clock.

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Speaker 6: Runs, they got to take their last time out, they're done.

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Speaker 6: Then you've got another fourth down. You've got a third

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Speaker 6: for another play where he doesn't put the ball at risk,

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Speaker 6: tucks it and takes off run. And those plays in succession,

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Speaker 6: both taking the loss in the sack and making the run.

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Speaker 6: It's unbelievable. It's both ways to play football, both with

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Speaker 6: from the neck up and obviously from the neck down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, taking the sack and understand you let the clock run,

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Speaker 2: but third and fifteen is not where you want to

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Speaker 2: be because you got to make a really hard decision.

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Speaker 2: There are we gonna try to throw it and get it,

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Speaker 2: to punt it back to Joe Burrow with one twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Left, But that up five like that indecision also makes

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Speaker 6: it impossible for them to know because the important, the

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Speaker 6: key part was you soaked up their last time out

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Speaker 6: and you knew that after the play on third down,

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Speaker 6: you've got to have an easy completion. It's got to

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Speaker 6: be in your possession. All you got to do is

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Speaker 6: drop it or not drop it.

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Speaker 2: You drop it stops the clock, or you just run.

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Speaker 6: The ball like you did and let the clock, which

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Speaker 6: I think strangers had determined he was gonna do.

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Speaker 2: Right, he saw a man coverage.

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Speaker 4: What yeah, and they went man. They had to go

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Speaker 4: And he threw it.

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Speaker 6: He threw a little wiggle on the last guy that

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Speaker 6: it was those two plays, and it just it speaks

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Speaker 6: he had. Like I said, the first one taking the

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Speaker 6: for a reason. And then from the neck down he

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Speaker 6: took it on a third and fifteen he ran for seventeen. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and yeah, Christian Benford, I mean, you get it. Just

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Speaker 6: the thing that he spoke about in the post game

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Speaker 6: last night was constantly about his technique, as technique is TechEd.

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Speaker 2: He didn't have good technique on that blitz.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because he's you're not supposed to leave your feet,

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Speaker 6: but if you don't leave your feet, you don't make

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Speaker 2: And he and it looked like Joe shot putted that ball.

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Speaker 4: It didn't have a good grip. It caught him. And

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Speaker 4: that's the only way you get Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 7: He is.

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Speaker 4: He's so aware. I mean, I think the guy's a savant.

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Speaker 6: I think he's truly brilliant because he reached defenses better

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Speaker 6: they caught him a couple of times. He had hit

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Speaker 6: him once in the back. They blitsed him a couple

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Speaker 2: I want to watch that play again only because I'm

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Speaker 2: wondering if he even had the opportunity off the snap

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Speaker 2: to spin the laces onto his fingers. I don't think

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Speaker 6: He didn't even have a proper grip on it. It

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Speaker 6: was totally wrong the whole thing start to finish. He

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Speaker 6: he couldn't get it back. He didn't have a grip

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Speaker 6: Milano's out running underneath the pass and he saw it too,

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Speaker 6: So all of that was going on. I mean, you

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Speaker 6: talk about a complicated there's a lot in that play

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Speaker 6: where Joe saw it in time to get rid of it,

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Speaker 6: but he didn't have the grip. He saw Milano coming out.

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Speaker 6: If he put it higher over Benford, Milano's under.

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Speaker 2: It at the very least he's batting it out of

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Speaker 4: So all that's going on.

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Speaker 6: It is up and Benford jumping up and catching it

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Speaker 2: Taking it out of the air like that was leopard.

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Speaker 6: There's so much in that play. It's really an amazing thing.

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Speaker 6: And that's why, you know, it's only one of a

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Speaker 6: gazillion reasons why the game's so compelling.

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Speaker 2: Just a crazy game. And I had noted this on

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Speaker 2: the broadcast yesterday because I had just there are some

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Speaker 2: the Bills scoring by quarter before the game yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: think it was actually a Sunday morning. I'm drinking my coffee.

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Speaker 2: I'm just looking at it, and I'm like, wow, the

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Speaker 2: Bills have outscored their opponents one eighty six to one

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Speaker 2: oh six in the second half. That seems like a

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Speaker 2: fat number plus eighty I said, I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if that leads the league right now, so I go

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Speaker 2: look it up. Sure enough, it leads the league the

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Speaker 2: next closest team plus forty nine in the second half.

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Speaker 2: So then they come out in the second half yesterday

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Speaker 2: and outscore the Bengals twenty eight to thirteen. Now they're

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Speaker 2: plus ninety five in the second half.

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Speaker 6: Of this the defense and the defense has been fantastic

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Speaker 6: in the second half. And I know they gave up

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Speaker 6: two touchdowns yesterday, but they got one back, so it

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Speaker 6: was a net seven points. Yeah, because of a two

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Speaker 6: point conversion they snapped off. The defense is really you know,

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Speaker 6: even going back to the Houston game, and you know,

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Speaker 6: you see the adjustments they're making and it's just.

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Speaker 2: Well and the other thing that's happening, Steve and I

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Speaker 2: noted this when I was on the Morning show with

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Speaker 2: Jeremy and Joe here in Buffalo this morning. First six

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Speaker 2: games of the season, the Bills had six takeaways. In

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Speaker 6: You do that to any football team in the league

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's exactly what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The turn the tide of that game gave him a chance.

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Speaker 6: They scored, you know, twenty one points in four and

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Speaker 6: He does it, He actually does both. He drops back

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Speaker 2: But he credited David Edwards with absolutely alerting him to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he got a big paw on that one. He

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Speaker 2: And I actually talked to defensive coordinator Bobby Babbage in

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Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, you know you're not gonna get there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and even if you didn't get the touchdown, you

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Speaker 6: go the long way. Yeah, of course it worked out.

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Speaker 6: Of course, it's great when it does work out.

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Speaker 2: And well, the offense is that's strength of your team,

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Speaker 6: Wait exactly and put it in the hands of the

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Speaker 6: It makes sense on this end of it as well

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Speaker 2: Bengals came into the game giving up a league leading

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati didn't get assessed a time out for challenging when

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Speaker 2: Well, they were challenging that it was a touchback through

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Speaker 4: Not it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: They weren't a challenge.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter. The touchdown that was.

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Speaker 6: So Cincinnati won the challenge. That's why they didn't get

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Speaker 2: They did a horrible job of explaining that.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Well it's not easy to explain because there's a

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Speaker 2: Right, which they accepted, And I think that's what's confused

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Speaker 4: That's right, it's two separate things. There's two separate things.

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Speaker 2: But that's what crossed up a lot of people.

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Speaker 6: And it was it was it's complicated. But since well

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll get it later. You start explaining it

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Speaker 6: But that's what happened yesterday. There was a penalty called

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Speaker 4: On a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Well, so the Bengals accept the penalty to negate what

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Speaker 6: Well, the challenge was they thought they might get the

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Speaker 6: But it was even better. Well, it wasn't as better,

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Speaker 4: Of the penalty. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: Even though the touchdown got pulled off the board, they

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I guess I hope

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Speaker 6: It if the touchdown had already been taken off the board,

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Speaker 6: and yet they still win the challenge because.

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Speaker 4: It you know, well whatever, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I don't know how you win a

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Speaker 2: challenge arguing a touchback when there's no touchdown.

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Speaker 4: When there's no touchback, well there was.

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Speaker 2: There's no touchdown either, so what are you winning? Like,

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Speaker 2: why don't you just say, put the flag back in

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Speaker 2: your pocket take the penalty, which they did, and that's

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Speaker 2: what confused a lot of people, including myself. It's like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're accepting the penalty to negate the touchdown. You're challenging

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Speaker 2: touch back through the end zone, but then the replay

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Speaker 2: assistant says it is not a touchdown. So you can't

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Speaker 2: even challenge a touch back through the end zone because

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Speaker 2: now there's telling you it's not a touchdown. That's where

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Speaker 2: all the confusion.

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Speaker 6: Came, right, Yeah, why aren't they penalized for challenging when

458
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Speaker 6: the touchdown had already been taken off them?

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Speaker 2: They should have just gone to the Bengals and said,

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Speaker 2: you took the penalty. We've realized from our replay assistant

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Speaker 2: it's not a touchdown. Here's the challenge, flap back. We're

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Speaker 2: picking it up now. Maybe you can't do as.

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Speaker 6: What they did, but basically except they worded it for

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Speaker 6: a different reason.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said they won the challenge. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 2: a challenge to win.

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Speaker 4: That was a mess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a mess. Brad Rogers and the crew

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Speaker 2: not good. Bills out rushed the Bengals one eighty three

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Speaker 2: to sixty two for a plus one twenty one rush

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Speaker 2: yardage differential. Buffalo has allowed fewer than seventy rushing yards

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Speaker 2: now in back to back games, fifty eight yards last

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Speaker 2: week on the ground, just sixty two this week. They

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Speaker 2: did make the Bengals one dimensional. The problem was the

475
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Speaker 2: one dimension was the strength of their team. But let's

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Speaker 2: take a look at the standings to see who is

477
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Speaker 2: raising the roof brought to you by Stellar Roofing. When

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Speaker 2: quality counts, choose Stellar. And with a win by the

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Speaker 2: Bills and the Colts lost yesterday to Jacksonville, the Bills

480
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Speaker 2: moved to the five seed in the AFC entering Monday

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Speaker 2: night Football. Chargers play tonight. If they win, they would

482
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Speaker 2: leapfrog Buffalo by virtue of tiebreakers in improving to nine

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Speaker 2: and four. Bills are still two games behind the Patriots

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Speaker 2: in the AFC East and Buffalo plays, as we know,

485
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Speaker 2: at New England this weekend and they will try to

486
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Speaker 2: even the head to head matchup. Really winning the division

487
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Speaker 2: is still very much a long shot. They would need

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Speaker 2: New England to lose three of their last four games

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Speaker 2: and run the table to win the division. And New

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Speaker 2: England's schedule is not very daunting right now, so they

491
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Speaker 2: would have to fall completely on their face for the

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Speaker 2: Bills to win the division. So the only thing they

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Speaker 2: do by winning this weekend is delay the Patriots being

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Speaker 2: crowned AFC East champs, because if the Patriots beat the

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Speaker 2: Bills on Sunday, it's over. Yeah, it's over. They win

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Speaker 2: the division.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and yes, exactly.

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Speaker 6: The Patriots would have to lose more games in the

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Speaker 6: last four games than they've lost all season yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd have to three of the last four.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they got to lose so many games to close

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Speaker 6: the season. Now, that's just not going to happen, and.

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Speaker 2: They're unlikely, highly unlikely.

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Speaker 4: Their schedule won't allow them to lose those games.

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Speaker 2: Right, We have to take a break here, but we

506
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Speaker 2: do want to know what your takeaways are from yesterday's

507
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Speaker 2: thrilling come from behind victory over the Bengals. Eight oh three,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight of eight, five point fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five point fifty those are the numbers to join us.

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Speaker 2: We're out of time here, but we will also go

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Speaker 2: around the NFL when we get back. Here on one

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Speaker 2: Bills Live presented by Colid of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 3: Lay block down to one. Here's the snap back to pass.

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Speaker 3: It's coming off the corner and they've got him. Christian

515
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Speaker 3: Bedford came screaming off the edge.

516
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Speaker 2: Joe Berrow never saw him.

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Speaker 8: Receiver to each side and it's intercepted.

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Speaker 3: Jumping up in the air is Bedford gets away from Berrol.

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Speaker 3: Thirty twenty ten five, Your AFC Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 3: Week has done it again.

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Speaker 2: Your Player of the Game is presented by Hi Mark,

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Speaker 2: plan of the Buffalo Bills. Because life Christian Benford with

524
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Speaker 2: a sack, tackle and an interception for a touchdown, he

525
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Speaker 2: may go back to back AFC Defensive Player of the Week.

526
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Speaker 2: He may go back to back pick six.

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Speaker 4: He might. It's funny yet.

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Speaker 6: He just it's so cool when you see a guy

529
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Speaker 6: get so rewarded for the hard work he has put

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Speaker 6: in and Benford has. You know, that's what everybody talks about.

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Speaker 6: It just he talked about it in his post game

532
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Speaker 6: Just technique, technique technique. If you do things the right way,

533
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Speaker 6: good things happen. Certainly in these last two weeks have

534
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Speaker 6: been a testament to that. All he talked about in

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Speaker 6: post game was his technique and doing the right thing

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Speaker 6: and being in the right spot. And I and I'll

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Speaker 6: say it again too, Joe burrow Is is as good

538
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Speaker 6: as there has ever been at post snap reads and

539
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Speaker 6: making decisions quick.

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Speaker 4: He's like, you know, it's like Drew Brees kind.

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Speaker 6: Of got with his style of Yeah, and they caught

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Speaker 6: him quick and he and he, Oh, I think he

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Speaker 6: just overreacted a little bit. He didn't take time to

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Speaker 6: get a grip on the ball, and maybe to his detriment,

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Speaker 6: he's not an off platform thrower. He couldn't side arm

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Speaker 6: it around him or anything like that. He didn't pump

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Speaker 6: fake it because he couldn't get a good grip. And

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Speaker 6: I think it startled him just for a hot minute

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Speaker 6: and he didn't take the time to be poisoned enough

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Speaker 6: to make a better throw.

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Speaker 4: Got him. Yeah, they just surprised him.

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Speaker 2: We're going to quickly go around the NFL before we

553
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Speaker 2: get to the phone calls presented by Kalida Healthy Official

554
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Speaker 2: Healthcare System of the Buffalo Bills with the loss to

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Speaker 2: the Bengals or with the loss, the Bengals fall to

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Speaker 2: four and nine on the season, pretty much out of

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Speaker 2: playoff contention next Gen Stats as their playoff chances at

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Speaker 2: one percent. Cincinnati has now lost three games this season

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Speaker 2: when scoring thirty four points or more. That ties an

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Speaker 2: NFL record set by the Bengals last season. The two

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Speaker 2: thousand and two Chiefs and the nineteen eighty five Chargers

562
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Speaker 2: also share that dubious record. Chiefs fall to the Texans

563
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Speaker 2: on Sunday Night Football at Arrowhead, twenty to ten. They

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Speaker 2: slipped to six and seven on the season. Andy Reid

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Speaker 2: with a controversial decision to go for it on fourth

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Speaker 2: and one from their own thirty one yard line. Tied

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Speaker 2: to ten with ten minutes left in the game, Mahomes

568
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Speaker 2: passed to Rashi Rice over the middle incomplete, Texans going

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Speaker 2: to score a touchdown to make it seventeen to ten.

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Speaker 2: They ultimately win twenty to ten. Houston improves to eight

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Speaker 2: and five and are just a game back of the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: who won thirty six to nineteen over the Colts in

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Speaker 2: a big AFSC South showdown to raise their record to

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Speaker 2: nine and four. They were atop the AFC South Division. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: the Colts lost Daniel Jones to an achilles injury done

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Speaker 2: for this season. Rookie six round pick Riley Leonard the

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Speaker 2: only other quarterback on the roster. Anthony Richardson still on

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Speaker 2: ir Veteran quarterback Brett Rippan is on the practice squad,

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Speaker 2: so he'll presumably be elevated and they'll decide if it's

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Speaker 2: going to be Riley Leonard the rookie or Brett Rippon

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Speaker 2: to start on the road at Seattle next week. Ouch

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Speaker 2: Seattle is one of the best defenses in football. Have

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Speaker 2: fun with that. Steelers rebounded for a quality win on

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Speaker 2: the road at Baltimore twenty seven to twenty two over

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. They sees control of the AFC North and

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Speaker 2: proved to seven and six on the year. Rogers twenty

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Speaker 2: three of thirty four for two to eighty four and

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Speaker 2: a touchdown. Also ran for a touchdown in the game.

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Speaker 2: Dk Metcalf hospitalized after the game after experiencing stomach pains

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Speaker 2: on the team plane. He's expected to return to Pittsburgh today.

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Speaker 2: Was out of an abundance of cost, and finally, Packers

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Speaker 2: cornerback Keyshawn Nixon picks off Bears quarterback Caleb Williams in

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Speaker 2: the end zone with twenty two seconds left in the

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Speaker 2: game to lift Green Bay to a twenty eight twenty

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Speaker 2: one went over to Chicago and it put the Packers

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Speaker 2: back in first place in the NFC North at nine

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Speaker 2: to three and one over the Bears at nine and four.

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Speaker 2: But there's a rematch in.

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Speaker 6: Two weeks in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: In Chicago, so that'll be fun.

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Speaker 2: That division is not I got over yet by a

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Speaker 2: long shot.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go down this rabbit holeing. But

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Speaker 6: we were talking and I think I confused myself even

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Speaker 6: further on the reversal of the challenge.

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Speaker 2: Please don't go down the road. I know we're just KNNA.

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Speaker 6: But here's the thing. James Cook's going in calls it

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Speaker 6: a touchdown off. It's an unbelievable run.

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Speaker 4: I was going.

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Speaker 6: I was unbelievable, crazy, fantastic run. So there's that, and

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Speaker 6: then the guy singles a touchdown. Place is going crazy

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Speaker 6: and rightfully so. Then replay says, no, he didn't know.

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Speaker 6: I didn't get read penalty. Next it's a penalty bills

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Speaker 6: were holding on the place, so the play is coming back. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 6: Then after all that they'll spot the ball deep. Then

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati throws the challenge flag because they think James Cook

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Speaker 6: fumbled the ball out of the end zone, which as

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Speaker 6: we know, would give the Bengals the ball.

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Speaker 4: That was not the case.

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Speaker 6: Why did the Bengals not get Why did the Bengals

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Speaker 6: not lose their challenge?

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Speaker 4: That's the problem. That's the problem.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other problem too is how can you accept

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Speaker 2: a penalty to negate a touchdown and also be allowed

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Speaker 2: to challenge a play that was ruled a touchdown to

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Speaker 2: argue that it was a touchback? Like, how do you

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Speaker 2: get to do both of those things? Well, that's what

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Speaker 2: I don't.

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Speaker 4: Get, because then you could decline the penalty.

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Speaker 2: So you can accept a penalty, challenge a play, and

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Speaker 2: if the challenge doesn't work out for you, you can say

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Speaker 2: or if the challenge does work out for you, ah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know what. You don't need that penalty. Wow, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it seems like a lot of palace.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you got a penalty on you, you can

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Speaker 6: either accept or decline it, but you got to know

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Speaker 6: the lay out of land before you accept or decline

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Speaker 6: the penalty. They accepted the penalty, they could have in

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Speaker 6: turn declined the penalty and taken the ball. You see

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I guess that's the open end

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Speaker 6: right there. That answers the question because they could have

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Speaker 6: declined the penalty after all and taken the ball, but.

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Speaker 2: They had already accepted it, So you can accept it

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Speaker 2: and then reverse that.

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Speaker 4: But wait, hey, so they they could decline if they couldn't.

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Speaker 4: They didn't decline the penalty.

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Speaker 2: Though, if they accepted it to negate the touchdown.

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Speaker 4: No, but the touchdown was negated by the replay.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I thought the penalty brought it back before any

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Speaker 2: replay assistant said no touchdown.

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Speaker 4: That's just it.

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Speaker 2: Though, Well, we'll never know the timing of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I that's the problem. I'm struggling.

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Speaker 2: There's multiple problems. So we just tried to figure it

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Speaker 2: out again and we still failed. So let's just leave

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Speaker 2: it a second. For a hot second, I was a genius.

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Speaker 2: For a hot second, I had figured it. I had

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Speaker 2: unraveled the secrets of the universe. And now I'm right

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Speaker 2: back at square ones. Yes, welcome, Welcome back where all

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Speaker 2: the rest of us are sitting. Let's get to the

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Speaker 2: phones at eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: five fifty two, five fifteen. We're gonna lead off with

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Speaker 2: Gary on his celle. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 9: Gary?

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Speaker 10: Hey, guys, how you go doing?

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Speaker 4: You're good?

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Speaker 10: I live here in Louisiana, right, pretty funny story. Actually,

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Speaker 10: you know, so I'm a massive Joe Burrow fan. I'm

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Speaker 10: a big Elshie fan, right right. You know if I've

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Speaker 10: watched his game yesterday, hating him, but I loved him

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Speaker 10: for what he did for Lstiet. Okay, so I'm here

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Speaker 10: pulling this game like, please join exception please, y'all, you

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Speaker 10: know whatever. That's just how sports get you. It turns

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Speaker 10: you so many different ways. That game was wild yesterday.

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Speaker 10: That's one of the craziest games I've seen in years.

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Speaker 10: But that actually, hey, Joe Burrow, but then love him

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Speaker 10: at the same time. Every time we play them, it

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Speaker 10: feels that way. It's just something I want to share

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Speaker 10: with y'all.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with it. I'm with you. I'm you're conflicted.

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Speaker 4: We get it, get it, he is.

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Speaker 6: Here's the here's the problem all of us have you

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Speaker 6: get in these conversations with other fan bases and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Lamar Lamar is a fantastic player.

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Speaker 6: He's struggling this year. Okay, fine, but he's unbelievable. Josh

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Speaker 6: is off the charts, unbelievable. Joe Burrow is unbelievable. Mahomes

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Speaker 6: good grief. The guy's been in seven or eight Champion

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Speaker 6: ABC Championship games in a row, in five Super Bowls.

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Speaker 6: I mean, they're off the charts. We've got it. Just

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Speaker 6: in this conference. You got five all timers, I mean

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Speaker 6: all timers generational and there's five of them.

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Speaker 4: There's five of them. It's unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: And then on the other side you got Stafford, who

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Speaker 6: has been doing it for as long as we've all

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Speaker 6: been alive, it seems like, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 6: and he looks unbelievable. It's yeah, it's hard to get

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Speaker 6: your mind right. You're conflicted because we are living in

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Speaker 6: a a in a great.

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Speaker 2: It's a spoiled age of it's.

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Speaker 6: A spoiled age for QBS because we've got a bunch

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Speaker 6: of old times. Now you've got Drake May and bow

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Speaker 6: Nix coming up, and you've got you know, these guys

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Speaker 6: that may be great too. Drake May is in the

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Speaker 6: MVP conversation above.

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Speaker 2: Josh, although that could be changing a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Well mate, well yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and let me just say this, the rankings I

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Speaker 6: just saw for the MVP race there, uh the top

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Speaker 6: guys Matt Stafford. Number two is Drake May. Number three's

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen and those two guys second and third play

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Speaker 6: this week.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard I did hear?

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Speaker 4: You did hear that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to uh Ray in North Town, Awanda next.

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Speaker 2: What's up Ray?

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Speaker 11: Good afternoon, big show, guys, except for one thing, the

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Speaker 11: conclusion explanation about the football touchdown that wasn't Yeah, and

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Speaker 11: then the fumble outside that went out out bounds. Why

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Speaker 11: did the ball go back to the original line of scrimmage, Well.

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Speaker 4: It didn't go back to that.

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Speaker 6: Ray didn't go back the original line of scrimmage because

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Speaker 6: the Bengals had a holding penalty that they accept it,

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Speaker 6: so it was Bill's had a holding penalty, so it

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Speaker 6: moved it back ten yards and that's the new line

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Speaker 6: of scrimmage.

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Speaker 11: Okay, But why wasn't the fumble given to Buffalo at

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Speaker 11: the one yard line?

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Speaker 6: Well it would have been, except the play got called

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Speaker 6: back because of the penalty.

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Speaker 2: And it was ruled to fumble out of bounds, not

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Speaker 2: a fumble out of field.

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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 6: It was act And here's the problem, Ray, it was

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Speaker 6: it was ruled a touchdown on replay, they called it back,

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Speaker 6: but only after they had assessed them. It was called

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Speaker 6: back even though it was a touchdown because of the penalty.

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Speaker 2: And the fumble was deemed to have happened out of it.

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Speaker 6: And then because of the angles they had, they realized

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Speaker 6: that not only was it not a touchdown, it was

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Speaker 6: fumbled out of bounds, not out of the end zone.

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Speaker 4: There's a difference.

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Speaker 2: The fumble did not take place on the field of play.

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Speaker 6: So what happened was Cincinnati accepted the penalty, but then

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Speaker 6: they said it might go better for us if it

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Speaker 6: fumbled out of the end zone, so they challenged it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to walk through this again, right, I

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Speaker 2: just don't. They accepted the penalty in negates the previous play.

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Speaker 2: That's why the ball was marked off for a ten

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Speaker 2: yard penalty on.

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Speaker 4: Hol and it stayed in Buffalo's possession.

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Speaker 6: And Ray, I'm sorry, I I don't want.

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Speaker 4: To go down that hole.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, he took three swings out. I can't we

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Speaker 6: still cannot explain it. It's too complicated to me. There's

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Speaker 6: something that goes, something takes precedence over something else that

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Speaker 6: caused the Bengals to keep their challenge.

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Speaker 4: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: You need to email Walter Anderson. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: get an.

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Speaker 6: All right, well, I want to fight out of it myself. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it all comes down to the order of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: what takes present? Is it the challenge or the penalty

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Speaker 6: or the touchdown or replay review. All of those things

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Speaker 6: go into.

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Speaker 2: That stew and which is why it's a mess.

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Speaker 6: And it's and it's it's Buffalo's ball and they repeat

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Speaker 6: the down.

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Speaker 2: It's an officiating gumbo. Let's go to Dave in Albion.

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Speaker 2: What's up Dave?

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Speaker 12: Hey, guys, I have two quick things for you to

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Speaker 12: think about, just as a as a prelude. You're right,

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Speaker 12: don't try and explain that call again, just a bull

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Speaker 12: But anyways, the two things are I've been listening to

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Speaker 12: a lot of callers last night. Today, We've seen we

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Speaker 12: have a lot of negative people. The Bills aren't perfect.

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Speaker 12: I was just as frustrated as everyone in the beginning

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Speaker 12: of that game. But I don't see any perfect teams

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Speaker 12: and they won the game. And they have great ability.

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Speaker 12: So let's try and focus on the positive. And the

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Speaker 12: second I know you guys do, I'm just a lot

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Speaker 12: of callers, they'll get hung up. And then the second

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Speaker 12: quick thing is on those tie breakers and how the

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Speaker 12: Bills can still win the division. I'm not quite sure

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Speaker 12: you guys had it right earlier. I think what happens

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Speaker 12: is if the Bills went out including a win over

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Speaker 12: New England, and then New England loses one more game

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Speaker 12: to either the Dolphins or the Jets, then you go

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Speaker 12: through all these tiebreakers and we end up beating them

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Speaker 12: out by.

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Speaker 2: Some No, I don't think so. They got to lose

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Speaker 2: three out of their last four.

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Speaker 4: We have to have a better record than they do.

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Speaker 6: If we have the same record, their conference record beats ours.

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Speaker 2: Well, first, it's division record, and there is a scenario

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Speaker 2: where the division records could be the same at four

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Speaker 2: and two, which is the best the Bills can do.

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Speaker 2: From there, it would go to common games, and right now,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots have a better common games record than Buffalo,

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Speaker 2: and they had they're they're better than us on all

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Speaker 2: the tiebreakers. And look, the ultimate thing that you need

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Speaker 2: to remember, Dave, they have to lose three of their

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Speaker 2: last four. They really do.

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Speaker 12: I don't want to challenge you a pushback. I got

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Speaker 12: my info from the ESPN playoff machine, you know, all

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Speaker 12: that crap, and comes up and says, you know, here's

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Speaker 12: the answer. Maybe it's wrong.

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Speaker 6: Well maybe not, it might not be. And if the

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Speaker 6: Bills went out, nobody's going to be complaining.

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Speaker 13: But U I hope not.

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Speaker 12: They're the most harm important picture. If the Bills win

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Speaker 12: out and they're sitting there and say fifth or whatever,

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Speaker 12: and they got to you and they and they have

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Speaker 12: to go to any of these other teams other than

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Speaker 12: maybe Houston, I feel confident Houston would worry me, but

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Speaker 12: the rest of them, it feels like we'd have a

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Speaker 12: good chance to win any.

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Speaker 6: Other st Yeah, here's one thing I thought about, And

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Speaker 6: thanks appreciated, Dave.

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Speaker 4: You're right on a lot accounts.

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Speaker 6: I'll say this, the problem with the Bills and the

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Speaker 6: way they're constructed, and it was illustrated last night on

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Speaker 6: Sunday Night Football Houston at Kansas City. The way the

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Speaker 6: Bills are constructed right now at this point in history,

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Speaker 6: because of the injuries they've had on the other side

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Speaker 6: of the on the defensive side, of the ball right

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Speaker 6: now that if they go on the road. It's harder

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Speaker 6: for the Bills to win on the road than it

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Speaker 6: is for a team like Houston to win on the

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Speaker 6: road because defense travels. Defensive teams play better on the

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Speaker 6: road because of the noise level and the amount of

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Speaker 6: obstacles they have to overcome outside the lines. Defense travels

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Speaker 6: better than offense does. And right now, the Bills are

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Speaker 6: built around their offense like the Bengals were yesterday. It's

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Speaker 6: harder for the Bills the way they're constructed to go

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Speaker 6: on the road and win than it is for a

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Speaker 6: team like Houston to go on the road and win

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Speaker 6: like Denver. Denver can go on the road and win

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Speaker 6: as well.

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Speaker 4: Easier.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying it'll happen and all that, but it's

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Speaker 6: easier for teams like that to go on the road

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Speaker 6: and win. That's one thing that's working against Buffalo. We

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Speaker 6: know how difficult it is to come into this building

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Speaker 6: in high Mark and beat this team. But the Bills,

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Speaker 6: I mean you, I mean, I don't have to tell

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Speaker 6: you you look at their schedule. They lost three of

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Speaker 6: their four games on the road at Atlanta, at Miami,

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Speaker 6: at Houston, they lost them three of the four games

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Speaker 6: on the road, and they turned it over three times

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Speaker 6: against the Patriots here at home, or they wouldn't have lost

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Speaker 6: that game at that point. Of now, New England was

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Speaker 6: a little bit of a different team then that early

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Speaker 6: in the season, and the Bills were a little different too,

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Speaker 6: But that's where they're sitting right now, and that's that's

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Speaker 6: why this road to the Yes, the Bills will have

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Speaker 6: the best player on the team on the field in

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Speaker 6: any game they play home or or on the road,

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Speaker 6: and it's looking like it's gonna be by a significant amount.

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Speaker 6: If Mahomes isn't there, if Burrow isn't there, if Lamar

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Speaker 6: isn't there. Yeah, it's a significant difference in the guy

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Speaker 6: you've got taken snaps over anybody else they play. Even

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Speaker 6: if Drake may goes on to win the MVP.

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Speaker 2: He ain't Josh and played in the playoff game either.

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Speaker 6: He ain't Josh. So yes, there is that, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: it's we're not. Yeah, the division would have been nice

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Speaker 6: to guarantee a home playoff game, but it doesn't look

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Speaker 6: like you're gonna get one.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here, more of your phone calls

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Speaker 2: Who knows today could be your lucky play gambling problem

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00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 2: called one eight seven seven eight Hope and why or

880
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: text hope and why? I wanted to let David Albion

881
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: know during the break I crunch the numbers again. There

882
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: is another scenario in which the Bills could win the

883
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: division that does not involve the New England Patriots losing

884
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: three of their last four. There's a scenario where if

885
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 2: this is all assuming the Bills run the table. If

886
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 2: the Bills run the table meaning to obviously beat the

887
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: Patriots this week, and the Patriots lose one of their

888
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 2: other four remaining three remaining games to a division opponent

889
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: Jets or Dolphins, and the Bills run the table. They

890
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: could win the division that way as well. So there's

891
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: a scenario where if the Bills went out and the

892
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: Patriots lose three of their last four, the Bills could

893
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: win the division. And there are specific scenarios where if

894
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 2: the Patriots lose two of their last four, both division opponents,

895
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: namely the Bills this week and then either Miami or

896
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: the Jets, the Bills could win the division that way.

897
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: So you were right, Dave, And I'm glad you had

898
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: us check keeping us on our p's and q's.

899
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Now, because when you look at the schedule, the most

901
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 6: likely scenario, if the Patriots even going to lose two,

902
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 6: it would be to Buffalo this week and then to

903
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 6: Baltimore the week after. Now, Baltimore's suddenly he started. Yeah,

904
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 6: they're leaking oil. But Miami's getting hot. But Miami has

905
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 6: to go up to New England in week eighteen in

906
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: forty degree weather.

907
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: So forty, Yeah, they love it. It was forty, right,

908
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: it's sub forty.

909
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 6: If they're at sub forty, Miami doesn't have a chance, right,

910
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 6: So that's the way it goes. But anyway, that's that's

911
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 6: the scenario. So you're right, Dave and Albion. It's got

912
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 6: to be the right two games. If the Patriots lose

913
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 6: to chief game to lose the division.

914
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: Let's go to Kevin and Hamburg next. What's up, Kevin,

915
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's Live.

916
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call. I want to say, I'm

917
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 14: glad to move one, obviously, but I'm going into that

918
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 14: that rematch in New England because I would not want

919
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 14: to go into that game with them, even if been

920
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 14: a close loss, that would not have been very comforting.

921
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 14: You know what I'm saying going into a big game

922
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 14: like that, And I want to say one more thing

923
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 14: is this has nothing new to the game. Is I'm

924
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 14: sticking downy hearing a lot about talking about all this.

925
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 14: I'm going to go around the league to the Baltimore

926
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 14: fans thinking about the refs messing them over and all that.

927
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 14: They've messed us over a lot more than they'll ever

928
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 14: mess Baltimore over. So it's like, bring out to Bayolins

929
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 14: and I'll make sure I have your plugs because they've

930
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 14: messed us over way worse they'll ever mess that over.

931
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Basically, Baltimore, Baltimore, welcome to the club. Yeah exactly, Yeah,

932
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 2: I get it, Kevin. He's talking about that controversial Isaiah

933
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: Likely touchdown yesterday where it looks like Likely gets almost

934
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,959
Speaker 2: three steps down after catching the ball before it's raked out,

935
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 2: and they said it was not a touchdown.

936
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 4: Three steps without a football move. Here's the thing.

937
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 6: He's holding it out so the he's you're right, the

938
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 6: catch is still being contested before he gets his third

939
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: foot down or before he can tuck it away and

940
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 6: and secure the catch. So before any of that happens,

941
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 6: it comes out and you're right. That is the longest

942
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 6: I've seen a guy have the ball in his hands

943
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: and have it not be called a catch that I've seen.

944
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 4: But it was the right call. I hate to say it.

945
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, and we're not going back to the days of

946
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 6: what's a catch, not what's a non member When we

947
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 6: live through.

948
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,959
Speaker 2: That, I feel like we're living there right that.

949
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 6: That to me was the right call because you got

950
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 6: to put it away and survived the ground. It's a

951
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 6: little bit like the Goseki catch yesterday where he had

952
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 6: it around Terren Johnson's arm and held it. They went down,

953
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 6: and he kept and he held onto it until he

954
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 6: got his until he went down on the ground on

955
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 6: his back. Then it was a catch. Isaiah likely caught it,

956
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 6: got a foot down, got his other foot down, was

957
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 6: still holding it, and the dB was not, And just

958
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: before his other foot came down his third foot and

959
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 6: before he could tuck it away, it came out. I

960
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 6: see that as a non catch. I get it, And

961
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 6: I also get Baltimore's disgust with the call.

962
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it.

963
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Is what it is to Lee in Buffalo Nex, what's up? Lee?

964
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 15: Hey? How you guys doing good?

965
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 4: God?

966
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have.

967
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 16: I got three comments here. My first comment is, you

968
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 16: guys think that this is probably McDermott's best coaching season

969
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 16: due to the laundry list of injuries going you know,

970
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 16: earlier in the season, these guys were dropping like flies.

971
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 16: My second comment is, do you think the NFL needs

972
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 16: to investigate Cincinnati because what I saw on TV with

973
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 16: T Higgins hitting his head numerous times after coming off

974
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 16: in a concussion, I think they need to be looked at.

975
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 16: It reminded me of the Tool situation going back a

976
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,479
Speaker 16: few years ago. And my other one more thing here

977
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 16: is I want to go back to the Darius Sleigh situation,

978
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 16: and I thought the guy Teddy Bruski yesterday on Sunday Countdown,

979
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 16: made a very good point saying that when you make

980
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 16: a trade in the NFL, you gotta go through what

981
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 16: do you call it a workout or whatever you call it,

982
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 16: how a physical and if you fail the physical, you

983
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 16: get your player back. In this situation, don't you, he said,

984
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 16: don't you feel like the Bill should have got Marcus

985
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 16: JaMarcus Ingram back because of this situation?

986
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't a trade. It was a waiver claim,

987
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: and that's different. You inherit a contract of the player

988
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: when you do that. I don't believe a physical is

989
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: necessary for that transaction because it's happening during the season.

990
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 2: Player is healthy. They released him healthy, and they released

991
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 2: him healthy. So that's why there was no physical. And

992
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm not going to pretend to know all the idiosyncrasies

993
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 2: of how a waiverclaim is different from a trade, but

994
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: that's one of them. And I think that's why the

995
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 2: argument that Teddy Bruski was trying to make is a

996
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: little bit null and void.

997
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 6: I get it that the Bills had to release a

998
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 6: player to pick Slay up, but that's that's a risk

999
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 6: the Bills have to take.

1000
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't even know if Slay's.

1001
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: Going to show up and not be you know, not

1002
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 6: act like a donkey.

1003
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 4: They have no guarantees.

1004
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 6: They've seen the guy play, they know what he is

1005
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 6: and all that, and they've got a history of looking

1006
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 6: at it, but they didn't know that the guy wanted

1007
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 6: to retire, wasn't thinking about it or whatever. So yeah,

1008
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 6: I get it, And what Teddy Bruski said makes some sense.

1009
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 4: I get it.

1010
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 6: They should revert all all the actions that were a

1011
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 6: part of that, and they should revert back to where

1012
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 6: they were. But that then you got JaMarcus Ingram out

1013
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 6: there hanging on a string too, coming back to a

1014
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 6: team that released him. He should have a say in

1015
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 6: that as well. So it's a little bit complicated. It's

1016
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 6: more complicated than just reversing the transactions.

1017
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 2: And then ask for McDermott. Yes, he's doing more with

1018
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: less once again, whether it's injury or young players not

1019
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: maturing and contributing more through the course of a season.

1020
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not the first time this has happened,

1021
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: and McDermott has done more with less. That's the best

1022
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: way I can phrase it. He did it in twenty

1023
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty three in the playoffs. He was forced to do

1024
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: it due to injury in twenty twenty four, and he's

1025
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: been doing it most of this season once again. I mean,

1026
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: you're essentially trying to establish a pass rush without the

1027
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: three best pass rushers you try to acquire slash have

1028
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 2: on your roster this season. Joey Bosa, three, Ed Oliver, Yeah,

1029
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: top three, Joey Bosa, Ed Oliver, my Hoyt. None of

1030
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: them on the field yesterday. That's why you didn't have

1031
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: a pass rush. You don't have anybody to rush the

1032
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: pastor that knows how to rush the passer.

1033
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 6: I still think his best job was his first year

1034
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen. Were people they accused the club of tanking,

1035
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 6: and he got a seventeen year playoff drought ended with

1036
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 6: a team that they'd accused of tanking.

1037
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 4: That's a pretty good job.

1038
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: We're late for the break. We'll take one here more

1039
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: of your phone calls in the second hour, but we've

1040
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 2: also got to catch up in our number two with

1041
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: our good friend Matty Glad Bill's you beat reporter for

1042
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo bills dot Com. She's got the Maddie Awards coming

1043
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: up next here on one Bill's Live Stay with us

1044
00:51:37,280 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 2: on a Buffalo Victory Monday.

1045
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live, presented by Calllida Help.

1046
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: Welcome to hour number two on a Buffalo Victory Monday,

1047
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and joined in studio

1048
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: now by Bill's team reporter Maddy Flab For what else

1049
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: The Maddie Awards, which are presented by Energy Mark, the

1050
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 2: official energy supplier to the Buffalo Bills, have fun coming

1051
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 2: up with enough awards for everybody, Maddie and this one,

1052
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: Holy mackerel.

1053
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 17: It was so fun. Two weeks in the row we're

1054
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 17: doing the Maddie Awards. It was a snow to victory

1055
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,760
Speaker 17: yesterday at high Mark Stadium. It felt like a snow

1056
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 17: globe in there, and the Bill's just they played better

1057
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 17: when the snow's falling out.

1058
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:51,919
Speaker 18: Of the sky.

1059
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1060
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 6: I was having like twenty twenty three plays flashbacks with

1061
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 6: the Bengals coming in in the snow.

1062
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 4: But I put a bill to that.

1063
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was hard, no discussion.

1064
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 4: Everybody got somebody got fined for bringing that up.

1065
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister Eric would got fine for this, right.

1066
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 18: So let's put it in the jar. Put your five

1067
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,439
Speaker 18: dollars bill in the jar.

1068
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: So let's begin with the Mister December Award.

1069
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 17: Mister December, Josh Allen owns December. When it is too

1070
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 17: cold for them, it is just right for Alan. He's

1071
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 17: thirteen and one since twenty twenty two in December games.

1072
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 18: Alan was masterful against the Bengals.

1073
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 17: He knew when to be aggressive and he knew when

1074
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 17: to take the short gains. That aggressiveness really helped Buffalo

1075
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 17: get their victory. The forty yard rushing touchdown to start

1076
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 17: off the fourth quarter gave Buffalo the juice that they needed,

1077
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 17: and the third and fifteen conversion on his legs completely

1078
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 17: ended The game. Finishes with four touchdowns a seventy eight

1079
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 17: point six completion percentage. Alan just wakes up when the

1080
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 17: cold hits his face. He became the best version of

1081
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 17: himself and it was so fun to watch him do

1082
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 17: that against the Bengals.

1083
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, this game was all over the map and the

1084
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 6: Bills came down. You thought, man, oh man Ty Johnson

1085
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 6: slipping going in for the first touchdown, that's gonna come

1086
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 6: back to haunt them.

1087
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:18,959
Speaker 4: It almost did.

1088
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 2: Not to mention the James Cook fumble too. Yeah, and

1089
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 2: I'll say the two touchdowns they could have had.

1090
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, just crazy game so much fun to well, it's

1091
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 6: fun because it turned out the way it did. But man,

1092
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 6: oh man, you just you went from thinking out, okay,

1093
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 6: that's it. Mike get sick. He goes in, we're down

1094
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 6: ten with half a quarter to play. We're kind of

1095
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 6: done to up twenty one, up by eleven. I mean,

1096
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 6: you score twenty one points, you go up by eleven

1097
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 6: is a crazy The game was all over.

1098
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: The joint, all right. The technician award is up next.

1099
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 17: The technician. His teammates call him the technician. That's Christian Benford,

1100
00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 17: Buffalo's corner, is an absolute technician. When it comes to

1101
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,839
Speaker 17: how he feels about the game, it's how he takes

1102
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 17: his notes, it's how he practices, and it's how Benford

1103
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 17: executes On Sundays, you can see that production on the

1104
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 17: field because of how detailed he is in everything that

1105
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 17: he does. He had a pick six against Cincinnati in.

1106
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 18: The fourth quarter.

1107
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:19,040
Speaker 17: It was absolutely momentum shifting gave Buffalo their first lead

1108
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 17: of the game. He allows no catches on sixteen sixteen matches,

1109
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 17: two targets against Jamar Chase. According to Next Gen Stats,

1110
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 17: Benford has been a lockdown corner going up against the

1111
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 17: best wide receivers in the NFL, and on the last

1112
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 17: couple weeks. Last month, he's been on fire. I mean

1113
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 17: back to back defensive touchdowns in the last two weeks.

1114
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,760
Speaker 17: Keep him on the field at all times, yet.

1115
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: Keep him blitzing. Every time he blitzes off the corner.

1116
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: Something good happens. In the last two weeks when he

1117
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: blitzes off the corner, he has a fumble recovery for

1118
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: a touchdown, a sack on Joe Burrow, and an interception

1119
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 2: for a touchdown. Keep blitzing that guy. Holy cow.

1120
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 6: One of the things the reasons that's so successful. You

1121
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 6: can tell his numbers against Jamar Chase yesterday, he held

1122
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 6: him down. He didn't have any give up any receptions.

1123
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 6: He did the same thing last week.

1124
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: In six of the last seven years.

1125
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: He has just locked down. So they think, okay, he's

1126
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 6: locked down there. That's when they send him. It's unexpected

1127
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 6: because the guys, you know, they think he's going to

1128
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 6: be covering their number one guy because they're crazy not to.

1129
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 6: But yeah, they send him and it comes out out

1130
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 6: of the blue.

1131
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: Question now is do we think they have him follow

1132
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs this week? Diggs lines up in the slot

1133
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: of good amounts. Yeah, yeah, I mean, and this is

1134
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: only in man coverage calls, which you know, the Bill's

1135
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: still play an awful lot of his own defense, so

1136
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: it's not every snap, but curious to see what they

1137
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: do this week. Interesting in doing the mismatch Mania award.

1138
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 17: Mismatch Mania, Buffalo's tight ends had a day against the Bengals.

1139
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 17: Their bigger bodies were perfect for the mismatches in the

1140
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 17: Bengals defense. They came into this game as one of

1141
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 17: the worst defenses at defending tight ends along ninety three

1142
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 17: receiving yards per game. Well, Buffalo's tight ends go off

1143
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 17: for eleven catches, one hundred and thirty seven receiving yards,

1144
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 17: and two touchdowns. Dawson Knox had his best game yet

1145
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 17: this season six catches, ninety three receiving yards. Dalon Kincaid

1146
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 17: was healthy, he got a touchdown in this game. When

1147
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 17: Buffalo's tight ends are healthy and on the field, good

1148
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 17: things happened for Buffalo's offense.

1149
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: It was nuts And look we found out after the

1150
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: inactives came out that Dalton Kincaid was playing in this game.

1151
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: Us in the radio booth were of the opinion that

1152
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: his reps were going to be closely monitored with hamstring

1153
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: and knee injury to deal with than they were. I

1154
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 2: think he only got twenty something snaps in this game,

1155
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: but he did enough to help out. We thought he

1156
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 2: was going to be on the field in red zone situations.

1157
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 2: He was, But between the twenties it was largely Dawson

1158
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: Knox who had a big game leading receiver. What was

1159
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: it six for ninety three I think, which was the

1160
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 2: biggest production he has put up in a game pass

1161
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: receiving wise since twenty twenty two.

1162
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1163
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 6: So the thing that makes for him, the thing that

1164
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 6: makes it so unbelievable is that it was eleven catches

1165
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 6: on thirteen targets to the tight ends. I mean they

1166
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 6: if you threw it, they caught it for the most part,

1167
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 6: and they had two touchdowns in.

1168
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: That so.

1169
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 6: The two point so it was it was an enormous

1170
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 6: day for him, and they started right out. It made

1171
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 6: so much in retrospect, it's like, oh, of course they're

1172
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 6: going to do that. The Bills rushed for two forty

1173
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 6: nine against the Steelers last week. They set a record

1174
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 6: for a visiting club in the in Akroschuer stadium, So

1175
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 6: you think, okay, here we go and the Bengals come in.

1176
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 6: They're thirty second in the in the league against the run,

1177
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: so the Bills are.

1178
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 4: Going to pound it. It's a snowy day here.

1179
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 6: We first play from scrimmage, hard play action over the

1180
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 6: top to Knox and he goes for thirty seven. Really

1181
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 6: nice play call and set up for the Bills in

1182
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 6: that spot, and it was and it worked perfect. But

1183
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 6: it seems obvious afterwards, but not so much the one

1184
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 6: eighty award.

1185
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 18: The one eighty.

1186
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 17: It's Buffalo's second half changes. The Bills became a different

1187
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 17: team in the second half. In the first half, they

1188
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 17: allowed the Bengals to control everything. In the second half,

1189
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 17: the Bills were thiefs in the night. They took the

1190
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 17: momentum and ran away with it. Twenty eight points scored

1191
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 17: in the second half by Buffalo back to back drives,

1192
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 17: they forced an interception, one goes for a touchdown. The

1193
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 17: momentum that they grabbed in the second half really allowed

1194
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 17: Buffalo to secure this victory.

1195
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are now outscoring their opponents in the second

1196
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 2: half by ninety five points on the season. That leads

1197
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 2: the NFL by a wide margin the next closest team

1198
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: or the La Rams. They are a plus sixty three

1199
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 2: in the second half. Bills are a plus ninety five

1200
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 2: in the second half.

1201
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 17: This season the Mister Aggressive award, Mister Aggressive, it's going

1202
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,000
Speaker 17: to Bill's head coach Sean McDermott. McDermott had an aggressive

1203
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 17: mindset against the Bengals. You knew going up against a

1204
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 17: Joe Burrow led team that's a high flying offense with

1205
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 17: two really talented receivers, you were gonna have to take

1206
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 17: some chances in this one. They did that by going

1207
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 17: for it on fourth down, three or four on fourth

1208
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 17: down in this game. One of those came in the

1209
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 17: red zone where Josh Allen targets Khalil Shakir.

1210
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 18: It looked like there was no window at all.

1211
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 17: Alan throws the ball and goes abra cadabra, catch it

1212
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 17: Shakir and he does for a touchdown. Then you send

1213
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 17: those corner blitzes in the second half and they hit.

1214
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 18: You're taking a chance when.

1215
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 17: You're sending a corner on a blitz because somebody might

1216
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 17: be open. That Burrow confined well. Benford grabs a sack

1217
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 17: and Benford grabs a pick six when you send him

1218
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 17: on a corner blitz.

1219
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 18: McDermott was aggressive.

1220
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 17: Players love that because it says I believe in the

1221
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 17: team that I have together.

1222
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we heard coach McDermott address this in the

1223
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: postgame press conference when he said, look, we made Cincinnati

1224
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 2: one dimension in the first half by shutting down the

1225
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: run game, but our Russian coverage we're not working together

1226
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. We had to change something,

1227
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 2: and they turn two being more aggressive and sending more

1228
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: people to get pressure on the quarterback and speed Burrow

1229
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: up a little bit to help the guys on the

1230
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: back end. It wasn't perfect, but I think when the

1231
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: offense is clicking like it was yesterday, all the defense

1232
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: has to do is just get three or four stops

1233
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: and it's enough. And they were able to do that

1234
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 2: two via takeaway, which was probably the biggest surprise I

1235
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: think of anything, because those were the first two interceptions

1236
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 2: ever thrown by Joe Burrow against the Bills in three games.

1237
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, it helps as well when the Bills the offense

1238
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 6: rewards McDermott's aggression that they go three to four on

1239
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 6: fourth down tries six of eleven on third down, so

1240
01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 6: they they were coming through in the clutch more.

1241
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 17: Often than a lot, more often than not coming through,

1242
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 17: and Allan was aggressive on some of those fourth downs and.

1243
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 18: Just with his legs throughout the game.

1244
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 17: And he is clean in terms of the turnovers, no interceptions,

1245
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 17: no fumbles by Allen. He had to take some chances

1246
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 17: as well, and those chances were met with success.

1247
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1248
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean even the last second throw to knocks on

1249
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: third and goal that knocks it caught but juggled a

1250
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: little bit and they ruled in complete. Even that play

1251
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 2: was ridiculous. He's like right on the sideline, takes a

1252
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: shot as he throws it and knocks somehow catches it

1253
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 2: in the back corner over there, and then it gets

1254
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: called back because they said the ball moved.

1255
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 6: Josh had also had one throwaway I believe in the

1256
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 6: second quarter down towards the near side tunnel end. Just

1257
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 6: you know, going being that accurate and that efficient offensively,

1258
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 6: it does give you. It does give your coaching staff

1259
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 6: some confidence to have you stay on the field if

1260
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 6: it's the right down of distance.

1261
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 4: I think the Bills in.

1262
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 6: This game I noticed when I rewatched it, they weren't

1263
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 6: second and four to six a lot in this game,

1264
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 6: and you know, so they're getting really positive yards on

1265
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 6: first down through the run game and it set him.

1266
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: Up final award the best Selly.

1267
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 18: Best Selling Jordan Phillips.

1268
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 17: There is nobody better at hyping up the crowd than

1269
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 17: Jordan Phillips. Sean McDermott joked about it after the game,

1270
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 17: had said, you know, it's part of his job. We

1271
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 17: signed him back to Buffalo and part of his job

1272
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 17: is to hype up the crowd.

1273
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 18: He was hyping up the crowd while the defense was

1274
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 18: huddling up before play. You see Jordan Phillips going like this.

1275
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 17: Like, oh my god, how many seconds is he going

1276
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 17: to do this before he needs to go into the huddle.

1277
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 17: But it works. It gets the crowd fired up. There's

1278
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 17: no better match than Jordan Phillips and the Buffalo.

1279
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,560
Speaker 2: Bed and had a big batted pass. Yeah, that resulted

1280
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: in the second interception on those back to back plays.

1281
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 2: He was the guy that knocked Joe Burrows throw up

1282
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: in the air and aj Panessa camped out under it

1283
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 2: and made the interception so wild, absolutely wild. What did

1284
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm kind of mad. I was following the ball, obviously

1285
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: calling the game. What did Jordan Phillips do. After he

1286
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 2: did that and saw the pick, it looks like he's

1287
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 2: celebrating over here, like, what's it? I can't see it's

1288
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: out of the cat d. He definitely did something like

1289
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was because I couldn't watch him.

1290
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 6: But yeah, great, it was a great play.

1291
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 4: Uh smart.

1292
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 6: And you know it's interesting because Joe Burrow, you could

1293
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 6: tell we talked about all the details. Jordan sticks his

1294
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 6: hand up and it looks like he's gonna pull it

1295
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 6: down to gather and jump again, but he leaves it up.

1296
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 6: So Joe was going to try and time it to

1297
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: miss his hand and didn't.

1298
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, just right into the right in the big Old

1299
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: Mitt and the Bills now in their last seven games,

1300
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: have fourteen takeaways after having only six in their first

1301
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: six games. They have doubled their takeaway output over the

1302
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: last seven weeks, and it's a big reason why they

1303
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: won yesterday. Yeah big, that's huge.

1304
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 17: The reason it's crazy that this team has gone from

1305
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 17: last year, the turnover different differential, that they had top

1306
01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 17: three takeaways, they led the league. And by leading the league,

1307
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Speaker 17: I mean they had like ten more takeaways than any

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Speaker 17: other team.

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Speaker 18: There was a huge drop off.

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Speaker 17: In terms of plus in terms of turnover differential than

1311
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 17: any other team. They did a fantastic job at taking

1312
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 17: care of the football and then taking it away. This

1313
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 17: season is completely different for Buffalo. But to be able

1314
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 17: to lock in in the last month and do it

1315
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 17: in December and January football start forcing takeaways and do

1316
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 17: a better job of taking care of the football. It's

1317
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 17: it's huge in these games.

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01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're minus two I think in the turnover margins so.

1319
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 17: Far this year on the year, minus one right now.

1320
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that they finished a plus one even were

1321
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 2: they even.

1322
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 6: Yesterday plus one yesterday, it's the only lost y plus. Yes,

1323
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 6: that's a very different spot than they were in a

1324
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Speaker 6: year ago.

1325
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 2: Now, they just got to stop turning it over on

1326
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 2: the road. Multiple giveaways on the.

1327
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 17: Road, the last one and they go back on the

1328
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 17: road for the next two weeks, so.

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Speaker 2: The test will be had well. Yeah, So hopefully it

1330
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 2: works out for them in a gigod AFC East matchup

1331
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 2: here in week fifteen up in New England in Foxborough

1332
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: on Sunday, So hopefully that goes well. And Maddie's sitting

1333
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 2: right where she is right now, cross today.

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Speaker 17: We can't let it happen. We can't let them have

1335
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 17: their hats and T shirt game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not gonna sit well. Those are the Maddie

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Speaker 2: Awards presented by Energy Mark. We will take a break

1338
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: and get right back to your phone calls when we

1339
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 2: return here. On a Buffalo victory Monday on One Bill's

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Speaker 2: Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 8: Radio to each side and it's intercepted jumping up in

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01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 8: the air is Bedford gets away from.

1343
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: Berrel thirty twenty ten five.

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01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 3: Your AFC Defensive Player of the Week has done it again.

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Speaker 2: Your Big Energy Play of the Week is presented by

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01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 2: National Grid. National Grid brings reliable energy to Bills, Mafia

1347
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 2: and beyond. The Christian Benford sixty three yard pick six

1348
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: which turned the game completely upside down, and we've heard

1349
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 2: a lot of crowd reactions that have been loud. The

1350
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 2: forty yard run by Josh the end zone was super loud.

1351
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: That one was very very loud as well. I don't

1352
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: want to say the loudest ever, but my god, the

1353
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 2: place went absolutely bananas. It was like a volcanic eruption

1354
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 2: when he ran to the end zone. People were losing

1355
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: their mind.

1356
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 6: Well, it gave the Bills their first lead of the

1357
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 6: game when they had blown the chance to do that twice,

1358
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: and just I was unexpected, right, I mean just didn't think.

1359
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even get a chance to say, burrow back

1360
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: to pass. It was intercepted already.

1361
01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, amazing.

1362
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 6: There's been a couple of those, you know, the Tarren

1363
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 6: Johnson won in the playoffs against yep, Baltimore for.

1364
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 2: One hundred one yards Yep, that was abut.

1365
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 6: Nahem Hinz returning the opening kickoff, and then another one.

1366
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 6: I just you know, those moments are just that's I mean,

1367
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 6: that's why we go to these games, right, that's why you.

1368
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 2: Want third to last, third to last regular season game

1369
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: high Mark. And I mean there have been two this year,

1370
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: the week one game and that one probably the best

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,719
Speaker 2: home games so far this season in the final season

1372
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: of high Mark. Yeah, see if they can send it

1373
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: out on a high note. Let's go back to the

1374
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 2: phones though, at eight O three oh five fifty for

1375
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: your biggest takeaways from yesterday's thirty nine to thirty four

1376
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 2: win over the Bengals, and to Joe in Utica, what's up, Joe.

1377
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 20: Hey, guys, how's it going? Just gonna kind of stick

1378
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 20: with the major theme today of replays and touchdowns and

1379
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 20: what is a catch, because I think we're kind of

1380
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 20: getting back to there at a certain point too. But

1381
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:03,240
Speaker 20: the one, the kind of the Pandora's box conundrum you

1382
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 20: guys were talking about. Personally, I feel like the Chase

1383
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 20: Brown catch on the sideline, there is even bigger, a

1384
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 20: bigger Pandora's box. You know you got. I think the

1385
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 20: original spot was actually right, but and correct me if

1386
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 20: I'm wrong, But I think the rule used to be

1387
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 20: you could have a foot in the touch in the

1388
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 20: end zone and you catch it and the ball is

1389
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 20: across the line, but that's a touchdown. I don't know

1390
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 20: if they change that. Maybe correct me if I'm wrong,

1391
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 20: But it didn't look like the ball ever actually was

1392
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 20: completed the catch until its elbow hit before the goal line.

1393
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 20: But so the Beangals challenge it, they get the touchdown.

1394
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 20: But what I'm what I was originally thinking is McDermott

1395
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 20: should have challengedhip. But then it's now I'm in this

1396
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 20: space where I'm thinking, well, if it's overturnament, it's a touchdown,

1397
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 20: should it be automatically reviewed to see if it's the

1398
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 20: ball hit the ground, but they probably should have looked

1399
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 20: at that originally, right, But then or to rule it

1400
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 20: a touchdown, you have to look at that part of

1401
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 20: the replay. But if they hold the play, which I

1402
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,720
Speaker 20: think they should have, can McDermott then turn around and

1403
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 20: challenge that it's an actual catch because he could if

1404
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 20: you want. I don't think you can be penalized for challenges, right.

1405
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 6: No, no, no, Joey wouldn't have, but he would have

1406
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 6: gotten He would have lost the challenge because when they

1407
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 6: review it, they review all aspects catch possession, and they

1408
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 6: gave him the touchdown.

1409
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the point I think Joe's trying to make

1410
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,000
Speaker 2: is that was not ruled a scoring play on the field.

1411
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 2: Initially it was marked at the one yard line. All

1412
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: scoring plays are reviewed automatically, right, that play wouldn't be,

1413
01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 2: which is why Cincinnati stepped into challenge because they wanted

1414
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 2: to say it wasn't anything.

1415
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 6: Here's the thing, and I get it, but it didn't

1416
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 6: look like that in real time. And I'm with you.

1417
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 6: I thought, if you're going to call that, the reason

1418
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 6: that was even a catch was because he survived the

1419
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 6: ground because of the ball he had it and when

1420
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 6: he slid across the ground outside the end zone.

1421
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,879
Speaker 4: The ball didn't move.

1422
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: But the ball did rub across the ground.

1423
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 6: It did rub across the ground, but it didn't move

1424
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:09,360
Speaker 6: and he had control of it. That's why it was

1425
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 6: a catch, and that's why it was a touchdown. He

1426
01:11:11,320 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 6: caught the ball, it was across the line, because it

1427
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 6: doesn't have to be completely across the line as well,

1428
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 6: he just has to touch the line. And when he

1429
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 6: had it, Shack had hit him and his knees and

1430
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 6: legs inside the end zone were dragging.

1431
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 4: They was down.

1432
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,679
Speaker 6: So I unfortunately, I think they got the call right.

1433
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 6: I think that was a touchdown. And I know this.

1434
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 6: I tried to do it in my own head, flip

1435
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 6: it around to say that was Dawson Knox catching that.

1436
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 6: Coming out, we would have been the same way.

1437
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: Well, Dawson Knox did do it in the back of

1438
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 2: the end zone.

1439
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 4: Well, Dawson dropped his. He it moved more than a little.

1440
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 2: He bought his rubs on the ground.

1441
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 6: Also, he bobbled his and never got possession inbounds. So yeah,

1442
01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 6: that was an easier, easier call than the one that

1443
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,679
Speaker 6: was coming out of the end zone. So as crazy

1444
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 6: as that was. I thought that was there was a

1445
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 6: chance they might say that was not a catch at

1446
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,240
Speaker 6: all because the ball scraped across the ground, but it

1447
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 6: never moved in his grasp.

1448
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 4: So it stayed a catching.

1449
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 6: It was a touchdown too, but yeah, this was a

1450
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 6: crazy game.

1451
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 4: For that stuff.

1452
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 2: Yeah to Mark in West senecon next what's up Mark?

1453
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 21: Hey, guys, if there was convenient prisoner of the moment.

1454
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 21: I want to talk about Bentford obviously because of the

1455
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 21: last two games. But I like to try and think

1456
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 21: I can get in players heads a little bit to

1457
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 21: try and think what they might be thinking. And I

1458
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 21: think yesterday's game for Benford could be a watershed moment

1459
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 21: for his career. And the reason I say that is

1460
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 21: here comes a kid out of Ronova, sixth round, okay

1461
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 21: and certainly not a football manufacturing school, and coming into camp.

1462
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 21: I gotta think he's thinking, I wonder if I'm good

1463
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 21: to play with these guys, and then shortly into camp

1464
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 21: he probably gained some confidence, and I'm sure he at

1465
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 21: certain level of confidence. He don't have confidence and gets

1466
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 21: drafted by an NFL team, but he's signing out through camp. Hey,

1467
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 21: I can do this. Next thing, you know I'm a starter?

1468
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:21,080
Speaker 21: Am I truly at starter? And then he goes through

1469
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 21: a season and he gains confidence and he's a starter,

1470
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 21: and now season to season he's playing really well and

1471
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 21: he gets the contract. But at no moment in time

1472
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,440
Speaker 21: do I think he ever thought, and I'm guessing here obviously,

1473
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 21: that hey, I'm an elite number one corner that can

1474
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 21: do anything on the field at any point in time,

1475
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 21: because he's certainly never I don't think he's ever really

1476
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 21: followed a player like Chase, and certainly now with a

1477
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 21: tandem quarterback in a game before like he did yesterday.

1478
01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 21: And he comes out of that game and Chase has

1479
01:13:58,880 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 21: five catches for forty and he doesn't get one catch

1480
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 21: against Benford. There's the watershed moment. This guy's arrived. Yeah,

1481
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 21: he is now an elite cornerback, and I think the

1482
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 21: competence level for him should go over the top and say,

1483
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 21: you know what, Coach put me out there against anybody,

1484
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 21: I'll follow anybody. I can do it.

1485
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: Well.

1486
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:23,040
Speaker 21: I think I thought yesterday was absolutely awesome, and then

1487
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 21: I'll actually real quick, guys, Steve, you gave me my

1488
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 21: next T shirt. When you're talking about Josh and other

1489
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 21: quarterbacks you might go up against in the playoffs. I

1490
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 21: want a T shirt now has a pase he ain't, Josh,

1491
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 21: that's my next T shirt. So thanks guys.

1492
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, Mark, I would say, with respect to Benford, Yeah,

1493
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 2: I think he is very slow to realize his potential

1494
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,960
Speaker 2: as a difference maker for this defense. I think he's

1495
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 2: just so humble and so head down, nose to the

1496
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: grindstone type of player that doesn't pick his head up

1497
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: and realize how much his own team is depending upon him.

1498
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 2: And I think with this defensive staff in trusting him

1499
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 2: with following the other team's number one receiver in six

1500
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 2: of the last seven games, I think it has made

1501
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: him finally realize they believe I am the best cover

1502
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: man on this team. They are counting on me to

1503
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 2: make plays to help this team win. And I think

1504
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: his mindset, to your point, Mark, has finally shifted in

1505
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: that direction. And by the defensive staff putting that level

1506
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 2: of confidence in him, he has no choice but to

1507
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 2: believe in himself. Not to say that he didn't before,

1508
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 2: but I think he believes in himself in a new

1509
01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:49,839
Speaker 2: way to be a difference maker for this football team.

1510
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 4: That all may be true.

1511
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 6: I saw a difference in Christian Benford in training camp.

1512
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 6: He signed as a player. As a player, the club

1513
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 6: signs you to an extension like they did him, and

1514
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,559
Speaker 6: it is a It is a stamp of all the

1515
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 6: things you're talking about, and he acted like he got that.

1516
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 4: In training camp. He was the most vocal he was.

1517
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 6: He was the alpha male of the cornerback room and

1518
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 6: the position group.

1519
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 4: He was the dude. He knew it.

1520
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 6: He acted like it, he led like it, he spoke

1521
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 6: like it. The guys looked to him to be like that,

1522
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 6: and he was so the success he's having. Yes, it's

1523
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 6: all well and good, but I think Christian Benford knew

1524
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 6: all of this when he signed the contract and had

1525
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 6: the training camp he did. I certainly, what we've seen

1526
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 6: on the field legitimizes the club's faith in him, and

1527
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 6: that's all there is to it. They they were right.

1528
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 6: I think he. I think he knew it long before any.

1529
01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 4: Of us did. I guess as a player, that's what

1530
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:58,639
Speaker 4: I would think.

1531
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 2: On Long Island. What's up, Nick?

1532
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 5: How you doing, gentlemen?

1533
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: Good?

1534
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,520
Speaker 16: On Thursday?

1535
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 22: I called up and we talked about following shock and

1536
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 22: I preached about it and it was right after he

1537
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 22: was on your show. So what I didn't mention is

1538
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 22: that I was coming up to my second home game ever.

1539
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 22: Me and son number one are on our way back

1540
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 22: right now. I made a banner the moment I got

1541
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 22: off the phone with you guys, out of a giant

1542
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 22: metallic white tablecloth painter's tape and labeling redit tape from

1543
01:17:31,560 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 22: my kitchen.

1544
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:33,719
Speaker 19: That's it, follow Shack.

1545
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 23: We're sitting in our section just below.

1546
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 24: The Jim Kelly sign.

1547
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 23: Halfway through the game, the entire section is chanting follow Shack.

1548
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 23: The fourth quarter, I couldn't put the thing down. If

1549
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 23: the defense was on the field, the follow Shack sign

1550
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,719
Speaker 23: was up. If the offense was on the field.

1551
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 13: I had to hold this thing up with one air.

1552
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 11: I feel.

1553
01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,360
Speaker 22: I am a Bills fan for forty four years. Sun

1554
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 22: number one next to me is twelve years deep.

1555
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1556
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 22: I've been dreaming of yesterday since I'm ten.

1557
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,479
Speaker 23: It was the greatest day outside of him and his.

1558
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 2: Brother, the greatest day of my life.

1559
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 6: Okay man, all right, yeah, you guys.

1560
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1561
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, yesterday was a special day, no question about it.

1562
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 6: Against an opponent that you did weren't sure about. There

1563
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 6: was I mean, yeah, high octane opponent who put it

1564
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,880
Speaker 6: on you pretty good in the first half, and you

1565
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 6: hung in there. The Bills were chasing him the entire game,

1566
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 6: right until Christian Benford had the pick six and they

1567
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 6: came out with the win. Scored three touchdowns in four

1568
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 6: and a half minutes, and you know it turned it around.

1569
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was a it was a beauty of

1570
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,759
Speaker 6: a day. Uh. The weather was bad, but not crippling

1571
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 6: bad like you know we've seen it, so you could

1572
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 6: kind of hang in there. The fans hung in there,

1573
01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,840
Speaker 6: They hung in there late, they stayed with it, and

1574
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 6: to their credit, they were rewarded. So good for you.

1575
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 6: I'm Nick, drive safe back to Long Island. That's awesome.

1576
01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 6: Nice banner, good idea, and I'm glad you and your

1577
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 6: son had a good time. Come back again sometime soon.

1578
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: Glad it was everything you hoped for it. That's the

1579
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 2: third best day in his life after the birth of

1580
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: his two boys.

1581
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 4: That's a show.

1582
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: That's a that's a high ranking for a Bill's home game.

1583
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 4: Huh.

1584
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 2: So there you go, Uh to Laurie and Hamburg next.

1585
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: What's up, Laurie? Hi?

1586
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 20: I wanted to go over the challenge flag thing.

1587
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: Okay, oh boy, no, I have an answer for you guys.

1588
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 2: Thank good. I welcome it.

1589
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:44,280
Speaker 9: Because after they reviewed the play, it was determined that

1590
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 9: Cook fumbled the ball before the end zone.

1591
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 25: It was not a touchdown.

1592
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 2: The challenge that the Bengals did was no longer viable,

1593
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,600
Speaker 2: right yeah, I understood that, right right, because because the

1594
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,640
Speaker 2: replay assistant had determined the touchdown did not happen, so

1595
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 2: therefore the challenge on a touchback fumble through the end

1596
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 2: zone did not happen either.

1597
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 9: I get a challenge.

1598
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 2: The wording of Brad rodgers adjudication of that was horrible.

1599
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,519
Speaker 2: It was horrible, and all it did was confuse me

1600
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:28,879
Speaker 2: and everybody else. And I blamed that Brad Rogers. Sorry, Brad,

1601
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: I blame you because his explanation there was just not good.

1602
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 2: And look, I realize it's an unusual and rather rare

1603
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:42,679
Speaker 2: situation that was at hand there, but all he did

1604
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: in explaining it was make everybody in the building feel

1605
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:52,000
Speaker 2: as though Cincinnati had gotten away with one in terms

1606
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 2: of being allowed to challenge the play while also accepting

1607
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 2: the penalty. And he did not explain that sufficient to

1608
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: my liking, or probably to anyone else's in the stadium

1609
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 2: that was not wearing a Bengals jersey, and it just

1610
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 2: led to a lot of uncertainty and confusion and lack

1611
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 2: of faith in the officiating crew in the way that

1612
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: he explained that. So I'm not saying his job is easy.

1613
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 2: It is not, nor is explaining that whole scenario. But

1614
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,840
Speaker 2: he fumbled it, probably even more than James Cook did

1615
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 2: out of bounds over the sideline in explaining it. So

1616
01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 2: there's that. Let's go to Bobby in Buffalo next. What's up, Bobby?

1617
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 19: Hey, Hey, Bronnie, how you doing good? Good? Listen, Brownie.

1618
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 19: I just want to say this one thing, the biggest

1619
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:49,879
Speaker 19: takeaway I got from the game on yesterday. Man, listen, Brownie,

1620
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 19: I'm going to tell you this. Instead of you saying,

1621
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 19: Josh Allen, the beast has been released, you should refer

1622
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 19: that to Christian Benfort. Brentford is a beast that just

1623
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,719
Speaker 19: been released. Oh my god, man, listen. The past two games, man,

1624
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 19: this guy has shown himself to be nothing but good. Man,

1625
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 19: nothing but good. Okay, I just listen. I just want

1626
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 19: to give kudos and big applause to Christian Benford.

1627
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:21,840
Speaker 6: Man.

1628
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 19: Listen, man, the man has come up big and big moments,

1629
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 19: and that's what players do. Now, as far as number

1630
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 19: seventeen is concerned, Number seventeen played like the NVP that

1631
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 19: he is right now. Okay, now those for those two.

1632
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 19: Now the question I have for you is this. Now,

1633
01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:49,799
Speaker 19: if the playoffs, I understand, if the playoffs started today,

1634
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 19: the Bills to be the I want to say the

1635
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,799
Speaker 19: number five. See is that correct?

1636
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 2: Number five?

1637
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 4: Number five?

1638
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 19: Okay? Now, if the playoffs started.

1639
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,879
Speaker 4: They'd go to Pittsburgh.

1640
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 19: Oh my god, not.

1641
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:10,719
Speaker 11: Again?

1642
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 4: Yep, that's correct.

1643
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 21: Wow.

1644
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:14,680
Speaker 2: I actually feel good about that.

1645
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 19: One, and you know I'll do too, And you know

1646
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 19: some brownie also feel good about this new England game

1647
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 19: comes Sunday as well.

1648
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little more concerned about that one personally.

1649
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: All Right, they have a chance. I'm not dismissing that. Sure,

1650
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about that one because that's a

1651
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 2: that's a that's an underrated defense up there, that is

1652
01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,920
Speaker 2: highly ranked in a number of categories. They have been

1653
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: bitten a little bit by the injury bug. They will

1654
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 2: be without Milton Williams, who is still on IR and

1655
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: I think one of their other defensive tackles is a

1656
01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: little nicked up too. Caius Tonga, who's kind of their

1657
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: big run plugger. Uh, he was nursing an injury too,

1658
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 2: but coming off the buy he might be healthy and

1659
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 2: good to go. We'll have to wait and see and look.

1660
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: Their quarterbacks playing lights out right now. That team's won

1661
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: ten games in a row. I mean, I know they're

1662
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 2: playing a fourth place schedule, but win in ten games

1663
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,520
Speaker 2: in a row doesn't happen often in the NFL anywhere

1664
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: first play, second place, third place, fourth place schedule. It's

1665
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 2: hard to win ten in a row in the NFL.

1666
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's rare. And you do that by not making

1667
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 6: too many mistakes and playing well too. You can't just

1668
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 6: you know, some teams will mistake a game away here

1669
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:31,720
Speaker 6: and there, but they haven't and they've played well enough

1670
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 6: to overcome anything. Certainly a fourth place schedule, I get it.

1671
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 6: And they're not playing you know, Philly in Kansas City

1672
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 6: and but all those teams. But you know, they beat

1673
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 6: the Bills, and they did it on the road.

1674
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: And one of their only two losses, they had five

1675
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 2: giveaways in that game. That's one of the main reasons

1676
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: they lost that game. So there's not too many games

1677
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 2: where they beat themselves, and that's why they're sitting at

1678
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 2: eleven and two right now coming off the by. Gotta

1679
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: take a break here more your phone calls when we

1680
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 2: get back. If you're holding an eight h three zero

1681
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: five point fifty, we'll get to you when we get

1682
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: back here. On a Buffalo victory Monday on one Bill's Live,

1683
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: presented by Collide to help, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Here's

1684
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 2: the snap back to pass blitz coming. Alan steps up

1685
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:31,760
Speaker 2: in the pocket, forty thirty down to the twenty, Alan.

1686
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,959
Speaker 3: Looking for the end zone and he's in for a.

1687
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 2: Forty yard touchdown rip. The clean play of the week

1688
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: is presented by Tide. If it's gotta be clean, it's

1689
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 2: gotta be tied, and it's Allen's forty yard touchdown run

1690
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 2: to the end zone. As that was his twelfth rushing

1691
01:25:54,080 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 2: touchdown of the season in thirteen games. Yeah, leads the

1692
01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,360
Speaker 2: team in rushing touchdowns this season, and I believe he

1693
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 2: was second last season. Cook had sixteen. I think Josh

1694
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: had fourteen, fourteen or fifteen, So a lot of production

1695
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: on the ground there. Got to get right back to

1696
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 2: the phones though. At eight h three h five fifty

1697
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 2: into Justin in Delaware. What's up Justin?

1698
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 26: Hi, guys, A longtime fan of your show, first time color.

1699
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 26: I was just curious about why we don't use Dawson

1700
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,600
Speaker 26: Knock a little bit more. It seemed like he was

1701
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,680
Speaker 26: getting open. It's kind of floating into the middle of

1702
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 26: the field there, and I think he's a big, you know,

1703
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 26: team player and everything. But we just kind of hang

1704
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 26: up and listen to what you guys have to say.

1705
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure thing, it's a valid point. People that haven't

1706
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,479
Speaker 2: watched this team long enough may not remember before Don

1707
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,879
Speaker 2: coincaid here, Dawson Knox had a nine receiving touchdown season

1708
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. The guy can play and be

1709
01:26:56,160 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 2: a factor in the passing game. He's pretty much taken

1710
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 2: a back seat to Can as the number one passing

1711
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 2: option at the position. But I think he showed everybody

1712
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 2: yesterday that he's capable of doing more if you need

1713
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 2: him to do more.

1714
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,880
Speaker 6: And we all knew going into the game that Cincinnati

1715
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 6: struggles massively with tight ends and running backs in the

1716
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 6: passing game, and they continued that yesterday. They needed him

1717
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 6: yesterday and he came through, no question about it. But

1718
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 6: it's not as though he hasn't had opportunities leading up

1719
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 6: to this point, this far in the season. They needed

1720
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 6: him yesterday and he came through big time, which is awesome.

1721
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:41,879
Speaker 6: But you know, yeah, and I'll say any time Kincaid's

1722
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 6: not in there, you need Knocks to step up and

1723
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 6: have a productive day. But they're not going to ask

1724
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:47,680
Speaker 6: him to do what he did yesterday because of the

1725
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 6: matchup they faced. That was a little bit of it.

1726
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:55,720
Speaker 2: But I think knowing that sometimes it has proven difficult

1727
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,439
Speaker 2: to get production from the receiving corps, I think it

1728
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 2: was maybe it was eye opening to see Dawson Knox

1729
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 2: capable of being that kind of a factor in a big,

1730
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,640
Speaker 2: important game like that, especially when Kincaid was clearly not

1731
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 2: one hundred percent and his reps were being curtailed. Thanks

1732
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 2: for that call from Delaware, which now makes it forty

1733
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,320
Speaker 2: one different states from which we have taken phone calls

1734
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 2: on this fine show One Bill's Live. So thanks for

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Speaker 2: doing that. To Bill in Texas. What's up Bill?

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Speaker 25: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Hey, I'm the guy who's been calling

1737
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 25: about Keon Coleman for two years about how slow he is,

1738
01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 25: and you know, and I finally realized we're doing the

1739
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 25: man and injustice. Why haven't we brought somebody in to

1740
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 25: teach this man how to get open, because there have

1741
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:48,960
Speaker 25: been slow receivers in the past that can get open

1742
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,920
Speaker 25: and be productive, and we just haven't done that. And

1743
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 25: then the second thing is our zone defense. I don't

1744
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 25: think some of the players understand his own defense because

1745
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 25: if you're playing zone, you have to when the guy's

1746
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 25: coming in your zone, you have to pick him up

1747
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,640
Speaker 25: when he comes in your zone, and you have to

1748
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 25: cover until he comes out of your zone. It seems

1749
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 25: like our guys go back get in their zone and

1750
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 25: they're so busy watching the quarterback they're not watching the

1751
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,840
Speaker 25: receivers come in the zone. They come in the zone,

1752
01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 25: catch the ball, and then we go get them. Why

1753
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 25: aren't we coming up and getting them when they're coming

1754
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 25: in our zone and going all the way through. And

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01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,840
Speaker 25: that's my questions for today. Thank you, sir, help a

1756
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 25: goo day, Bye bye, all.

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01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: Right, thanks Bill, thanks for the call of Bill.

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01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 6: I mean, that's basically the difference between man and zone.

1759
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:40,120
Speaker 6: When you're in zone, you're watching the quarterback and where

1760
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 6: his eyes go, and you're drifting to where he's looking

1761
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 6: when you're in man, you're looking at the receiver and

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01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:53,240
Speaker 6: following him around when you drop. As soon as the

1763
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 6: ball is snapped, you drop back into your zone and

1764
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 6: then you try and find guys that are coming into

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01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 6: your zone. But let's face it, what happens is the

1766
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 6: the offensive players are trained to go between the zones.

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01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,880
Speaker 6: So when you're the men are out there, when your

1768
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 6: zone guys drop into their zones, the offensive guys are

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01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 6: trained to go between them. So like is he is

1770
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:13,840
Speaker 6: he yours? Or is he mine? Or is he minor

1771
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,639
Speaker 6: is he yours? Plus before you even know if he's

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01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 6: gonna stop and turn around and sit down in your zone,

1773
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 6: the ball's already there or on its way, so you

1774
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 6: know that's I get what you're saying, but you're making

1775
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 6: it a little more simple than it actually is. It

1776
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 6: happens really fast. You drop to your zone and you

1777
01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 6: you sit there and wait for somebody to come into

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01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 6: your zone. Well, nobody comes into your zone because he's

1779
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 6: not quite in your zone when he catches the ball,

1780
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:44,719
Speaker 6: or another guy doesn't isn't on him because he's leaving

1781
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 6: the zone, and you've got another guy that's threatening your zone.

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Speaker 4: It's that simple.

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01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's frustrating to watch these guys back there and

1784
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 6: have Joe Burrow back there and just plink at a

1785
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 6: plink plink boom down the field. But here's the problem

1786
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 6: with Here's the problem. The root of the problem to

1787
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,200
Speaker 6: me is the fact that they have no pass rush.

1788
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:12,719
Speaker 6: Their pass rush is not effective enough on a consistent

1789
01:31:12,800 --> 01:31:16,720
Speaker 6: basis to be a factor in the opponent the opponent's

1790
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 6: passing game, and I expect the Patriots to do a

1791
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 6: lot to take advantage of that this coming week.

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Speaker 4: I think that's going to be their focus.

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Speaker 2: To Patrick down in the Capitol District of DC, what's up, Patrick?

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01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 9: Hey, how you guys doing good?

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01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 4: Good? All right?

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01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,559
Speaker 27: So my question is on a penalty from yesterday that

1797
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,439
Speaker 27: I am trying to wrap my head around. When Tarin

1798
01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 27: Johnson was called for past interference. I'm not talking about

1799
01:31:46,280 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 27: it if it's touchable or untouchable, but it looked like

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01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 27: Dion Walker tipped the ball out of his hand, out

1801
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 27: of Joe Burrow's hands when he was throwing yesterday. Does

1802
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 27: the rule change if it's tipped out of the quarterback's

1803
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 27: hand or at the line of scrimmage, or that.

1804
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: It should not be your rice interference. If it's tipped

1805
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: at the line, they missed it. And then what happens

1806
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 2: is what we invariably see on underthrown balls. The receiver

1807
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: makes a half hearted effort to come back to the ball,

1808
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: and the defensive back, who's still running in a desperate

1809
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 2: way to cover the player doesn't know the ball is

1810
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 2: going to be short, makes contact with the receiver, and

1811
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,520
Speaker 2: they throw the flag every single time. It's supremely frustrating

1812
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,920
Speaker 2: that play was TICKI tack. But more importantly, to your point,

1813
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 2: they flat out missed the tip ball.

1814
01:32:29,960 --> 01:32:34,600
Speaker 4: And somebody and the Bills should have could have challenged that.

1815
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 4: They didn't.

1816
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 2: I don't know if pass interference is challengeable because the

1817
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 2: balls tipped the ball if they see the ball tip challenge,

1818
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 2: the tip challenge the pass interference call.

1819
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 4: If the ball was tipped, that changes everything on the

1820
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 4: back end.

1821
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 2: Gotcha, Yeah, but maybe they didn't see that either. Yeah,

1822
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,560
Speaker 2: it was snowing pretty.

1823
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:56,679
Speaker 6: Hard well, plus the ball went flew so it didn't

1824
01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 6: look like it was tips, so nobody really thought to

1825
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,760
Speaker 6: look about it. And I got say, I gotta tell

1826
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 6: you this, it's the first I've thought about it. So there,

1827
01:33:03,800 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 6: you gotta buy it got buy all of us, including me.

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Speaker 2: We'll take a break here, but when we begin our

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Speaker 2: number three here on this Buffalo Victory Monday, we'll be

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Speaker 2: joined by my broadcast partner on the Bills Radio Network,

1831
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 2: Eric Wood, Bill's radio color analyst and former Center going

1832
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: to join us here for his thoughts on yesterday's wild

1833
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 2: victory over the Bengals. Is the Bills improved to nine

1834
01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,000
Speaker 2: and four on the season, Eric Wood coming up next

1835
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live.

1836
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Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Helth.

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Speaker 2: Third hour here on a Buffalo Victory Monday, Chris Brown,

1838
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:15,040
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you and joined now by my broadcast

1839
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,760
Speaker 2: partner on the Bills Radio Network, radio color analyst and

1840
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 2: former Bills Center Eric Wood, who's also the host of

1841
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Speaker 2: eats like a meal, all Right, Erica barn Burner there

1847
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:51,000
Speaker 2: in the second half, as the Bills outscore the Bengals

1848
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight to thirteen over the final two frames, including

1849
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 2: twenty one points in a four and a half minute

1850
01:34:56,400 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 2: span of game clock, where the game got turned complete

1851
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 2: upside down and the place just got whipped into a

1852
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 2: frenzy the likes we haven't seen maybe since Week one.

1853
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: How do you feel it led to those moments, because

1854
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 2: it seemed early the Bills were dead set on neutralizing

1855
01:35:17,080 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 2: Chase Brown in the run game, and they did a

1856
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 2: good job of that. They just couldn't get off the

1857
01:35:21,479 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 2: field on third down, and somehow they convinced the Bengals

1858
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 2: to throw it more, which as we know, puts the

1859
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 2: ball more at risk, and they just got two ideal

1860
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: plays when they needed them the most. But did making

1861
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,719
Speaker 2: them one dimensional kind of lead to that? Do you think?

1862
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 15: Yes? Absolutely.

1863
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 28: I think that's one of the reasons that we saw

1864
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 28: those back to back turnovers happened. Because when teams are

1865
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 28: able to grind the ball out on you and they're

1866
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,200
Speaker 28: averaging six plus yards of carry, they're just not going

1867
01:35:50,240 --> 01:35:52,360
Speaker 28: to have to put it in harm's way as much.

1868
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,559
Speaker 28: They're not going to face as many third and longs

1869
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,840
Speaker 28: the situations were turnovers generally happen, and so you have

1870
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:01,680
Speaker 28: a run play that Joe Burrow throws out of and

1871
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 28: tries to beat the blitz with Christian Benford, and he

1872
01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 28: picks it off and takes it to the house. If

1873
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 28: they're running the ball consistently throughout that game, he just

1874
01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 28: hands that ball off and you know, the very next series,

1875
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 28: they go back to the pass game, even though they're

1876
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 28: up three points at that time.

1877
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:15,920
Speaker 15: It's the fourth quarter.

1878
01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 28: They go back to the pass game, knowing that the

1879
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 28: run game was not effective throughout the game, and that's

1880
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 28: when Jordan Phillip STIPs the ball a j p Andessa

1881
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 28: comes up with the interception and we end up taking

1882
01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:25,920
Speaker 28: the lead.

1883
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:27,520
Speaker 15: After that interception.

1884
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Speaker 28: To me, this rush defense, especially these last ten quarters,

1885
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,679
Speaker 28: has played so much better than what we saw earlier

1886
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 28: in the season. The tackling has been better, the gap

1887
01:36:39,120 --> 01:36:43,679
Speaker 28: integrity's been better, just the overall physicality. And they're doing

1888
01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,000
Speaker 28: that with a very undermanned defensive line. So give all

1889
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 28: those guys credit on defense for making this Beegals team

1890
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 28: one dimensional. Now, they still put up thirty four points

1891
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 28: in the game, and that's you know, not the type

1892
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 28: of output you obviously want for the other team's offense,

1893
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 28: But I do believe the run game improvement, the run

1894
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 28: defense improvement can lead to more turnovers and game changing

1895
01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:06,840
Speaker 28: plays down the road.

1896
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Speaker 6: That's really what they have to hang their hat on

1897
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 6: at this point, right I mean, you've got you know,

1898
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,160
Speaker 6: Ed Oliver's on the sideline, Michael Horse on the sideline,

1899
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 6: Joey Bosa was on the sidelines this past week.

1900
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 4: With those guys out of the line.

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01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:19,559
Speaker 6: I mean, you kind of have to hang your hat on,

1902
01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 6: kind of hanging on and then making a play when

1903
01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:24,000
Speaker 6: you get the opportunity.

1904
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1905
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:28,240
Speaker 15: Absolutely. Taking the fact that t J.

1906
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 28: Sanders playing a lot of defensive end right now, is

1907
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 28: Dwayne Carter's out for the same I mean, they have

1908
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 28: so many injuries up front on defense that you know,

1909
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 28: generating a four man pass rush, it becomes easier. Once

1910
01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:43,880
Speaker 28: Bosa gets back in there, maybe Morgan Fox can kind

1911
01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 28: of play that, you know, Michael hoyt roll as he

1912
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 28: gets more experience in this defense and gets back in

1913
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,759
Speaker 28: shape and all that. But you know, we're probably gonna

1914
01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,439
Speaker 28: have to get more creative on the defense side of

1915
01:37:54,439 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 28: the football, and you could get more creative, especially in

1916
01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 28: you know, obvious fast situations when you're able.

1917
01:37:59,960 --> 01:38:01,480
Speaker 15: To stop the run consistently.

1918
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Speaker 28: In these last two and a half games, they've done

1919
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 28: a good job with that.

1920
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:08,680
Speaker 2: We saw the tight ends get involved heavily in the

1921
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,880
Speaker 2: passing game. In this one they go eleven for one

1922
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 2: thirty seven. The entire receiving cor goes seven for sixty nine.

1923
01:38:15,880 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 2: And look, if you have a matchup that you like,

1924
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 2: exploit it. The Bills did that. Do you think that

1925
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:25,040
Speaker 2: perhaps some eyes on the offensive staff may have been

1926
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 2: open to the fact that Dawson Knox can give you

1927
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,880
Speaker 2: a little bit more when called upon, knowing Kinkaid was

1928
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 2: still a little gimpy yesterday.

1929
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 28: Potentially, I don't know that for a fact, but yeah,

1930
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Speaker 28: Dawson Knox is a is a real receiving threat in

1931
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:41,719
Speaker 28: this offense.

1932
01:38:41,800 --> 01:38:44,200
Speaker 15: Not as explosive as a Dalton Kkave.

1933
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,680
Speaker 28: Maybe not quite the game breaker that he could potentially be,

1934
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 28: but a guy who's got a lot of experience in

1935
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,320
Speaker 28: this league and has made a lot of big plays

1936
01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 28: throughout his career. They go to him on the very

1937
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 28: first play of the game. This is a Bengals defense

1938
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 28: that came in, you know, worse than the league defending

1939
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 28: other teams. I know the boat Bill's coaching staff, you

1940
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 28: know they're getting that same information that we're getting throughout

1941
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 28: the week. Now, you always want to stick to what

1942
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 28: you do best.

1943
01:39:08,560 --> 01:39:08,840
Speaker 15: Well.

1944
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 28: When you have a run game like the Bills do,

1945
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:12,640
Speaker 28: they start off with play action the first play of

1946
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,760
Speaker 28: the game. The linebackers get sucked way up into a

1947
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 28: lot of scrimmage because they have to respect the run,

1948
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 28: and Dawson Knox comes wide open running across the middle

1949
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 28: of the field. And so the way this Bills team's built, No,

1950
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:26,840
Speaker 28: we don't have Higgins and Chase on the outside right now,

1951
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 28: that's well known. But with our tight ends, with our

1952
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,559
Speaker 28: running backs, with this offensive line, the run game that

1953
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 28: we have with seventeen back there, this team could play

1954
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:37,879
Speaker 28: big boy football and they showed it yesterday.

1955
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1956
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 6: Even so, I mean, this is a team that playing

1957
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,599
Speaker 6: a four and eight Bengals team, and I understand they

1958
01:39:44,640 --> 01:39:46,799
Speaker 6: were three to oher with their quarterback at this season,

1959
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 6: so they're a little bit different animal than that. But

1960
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,519
Speaker 6: their margin ofver with their defense under manned as it is,

1961
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 6: their margin avera is really thin. In fact, they if

1962
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 6: it was offense against offense, the Bill's offense scored thirty

1963
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:02,080
Speaker 6: two yesterday against Cincinnati thirty four, and without the pick six,

1964
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 6: they don't win that game. Now everything hinges on that,

1965
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,840
Speaker 6: but you get my point. As efficient as the Bills

1966
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 6: were offensively, the fumble out of bounds on the Cook

1967
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 6: touchdown that didn't count and his fumble into the end zone,

1968
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 6: that maybe all it takes to lose a game, even

1969
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,719
Speaker 6: against a team like Cincinnati with a defense as poorous

1970
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 6: as it was. So is there margin of air too

1971
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,599
Speaker 6: thin for any hope going down the stretch?

1972
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,599
Speaker 15: I would say not to have any hope.

1973
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 28: But we've talked about this for weeks that with the injuries,

1974
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:36,800
Speaker 28: especially on the defense side of football, the bargit for

1975
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,320
Speaker 28: air just isn't there like it maybe was at times

1976
01:40:40,400 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 28: in the past. Because we've seen that when we've turned

1977
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:46,559
Speaker 28: them all over three times, we lose. There's your four

1978
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 28: losses on the season. Now, there's been some penalties that

1979
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 28: have played into that. We're not getting necessarily explosive in

1980
01:40:52,680 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 28: the punt return game, which has hurt field position at times.

1981
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,040
Speaker 28: Kick return some games has been an asset, but throughout

1982
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:02,679
Speaker 28: the game yesterday, Bills had generally worst starting field position

1983
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 28: over and over on the Bengals, and so yes, you're

1984
01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 28: you're your room for air maybe is a little bit

1985
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 28: smaller this year based upon the injuries and I'll include

1986
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:13,840
Speaker 28: you know, the ones on the offense side of the ball.

1987
01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 28: When you talk about King Kad just coming back, Palmer

1988
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 28: being out, Spencer Brown's out yesterday against uh, the Steelers

1989
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 28: who got both of our tackles. I mean, this is

1990
01:41:23,479 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 28: a team that's been banged up at some key positions,

1991
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 28: and so yes, because of that, I do believe the

1992
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 28: margin for air is less right now than maybe in

1993
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,599
Speaker 28: years past. But you're still sitting here with the biggest

1994
01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 28: point differential in the league as far as positive point

1995
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:43,240
Speaker 28: differential against other teams. And I know that doesn't win

1996
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:46,640
Speaker 28: you a super Bowl, but that's a sign of a

1997
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:49,559
Speaker 28: pretty good football team. And I mean you look around,

1998
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:52,800
Speaker 28: uh you know, I like looking on Mondays that you

1999
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:55,840
Speaker 28: know updated, you know, betting odds for the Super Bowl

2000
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 28: and all that. And right now, out of the AFC,

2001
01:41:58,240 --> 01:42:00,120
Speaker 28: the Bills would be the favorite to come out of there.

2002
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 2: And speaking of the playoff conference race, the Bills improved

2003
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 2: to the five seed from the seven just by virtue

2004
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 2: of their win. And look the Chargers can leapfrog them

2005
01:42:12,160 --> 01:42:14,200
Speaker 2: with a win tonight because they would have the tiebreaker

2006
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 2: if they were both nine and four, So they could

2007
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: slide to six if the Chargers win tonight on Monday

2008
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 2: Night Football. But it's we don't have a clear picture yet,

2009
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,879
Speaker 2: but there is value in being the top wild card.

2010
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:31,719
Speaker 2: All you have to do is look at the top

2011
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: four seeds and you could see how you can benefit

2012
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 2: if you finish as the five seed.

2013
01:42:36,160 --> 01:42:36,519
Speaker 4: Can you not.

2014
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 15: Totally five or.

2015
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 28: Six, because then you're likely to play in the AFC

2016
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 28: Nor or AFC South Champion, which would be the two

2017
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,759
Speaker 28: weakest divisions in the AFC.

2018
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,200
Speaker 15: You know, we'll see how that afseed North shakes out.

2019
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 28: I mean Pittsburgh, I mean, maybe get Bills more credit

2020
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 28: than maybe we did against Pittsburgh a week ago. But

2021
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 28: then they beat Baltimore to get them their second straight

2022
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 28: division home loss in a row. As they're starting to

2023
01:43:04,040 --> 01:43:06,759
Speaker 28: get healthier, they drop two in a row at.

2024
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 15: Home in the division to you know, the last.

2025
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 28: Two teams that the Bills beat, and so you know,

2026
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 28: going to the AFC South Champion, if that becomes Houston,

2027
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 28: that's not very appealing, and that that's where there'd be

2028
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 28: tremendous value in that thoughts or yes, in the five

2029
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:22,839
Speaker 28: seed as opposed to the six.

2030
01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:25,360
Speaker 6: Well, and you get if you can get in the playoffs.

2031
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,040
Speaker 6: And all of a sudden, you're standing there in the

2032
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 6: playoffs for the first time in a long time, and

2033
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 6: Pat Mahomes isn't there, Lamar Jackson's not there, and Joe

2034
01:43:34,040 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 6: Burrow is not there. You all of a sudden you

2035
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,479
Speaker 6: have the best player in the tournament at Josh right,

2036
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,720
Speaker 6: and that's got to give you something to hang your

2037
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 6: hat on. My point earlier in the show is this, though,

2038
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 6: the way that Bills are built now, it's harder for

2039
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 6: them to go on the road with an offensive driven

2040
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:54,840
Speaker 6: team rather than defense. Travels better because the crowd doesn't

2041
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,560
Speaker 6: bother them as much. They can make their calls, and

2042
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 6: they can do things defensively that offenses can't. So that

2043
01:44:00,479 --> 01:44:03,680
Speaker 6: is kind of a knock against the Bills chances, but

2044
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 6: they'd still have the best player on the field in

2045
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 6: any given matchup.

2046
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 28: No, I agree. I agree with that one. And that's

2047
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 28: the way it's looking like it's gonna shake out.

2048
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 25: Now.

2049
01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 15: We'll see if the Ravens can get in the playoffs.

2050
01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 28: And you know, you talk about playoff football and what

2051
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 28: they've done in the playoffs.

2052
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 15: I would say you would put.

2053
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,160
Speaker 28: Josh Allen ahead of Lamar Jackson as far as you

2054
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,160
Speaker 28: know postseason success. Similar to where every argument that we

2055
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 28: would say that Josh Allen's the best player on the planet,

2056
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 28: they'd say, okay, well Mahomes has had his number in

2057
01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:36,559
Speaker 28: the playoffs, and that would be the argument the other

2058
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 28: way around that as well. And so no, I mean

2059
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:42,000
Speaker 28: there is a lot of parody this year in the NFL.

2060
01:44:42,040 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 15: There truly is.

2061
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 28: You have some young quarterbacks like a like a Drake

2062
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:48,760
Speaker 28: May like a bow Knicks that have a lot of

2063
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 28: talent around them on the team, but not necessarily a

2064
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 28: playoff experience. But they're still riding those rookie contracts. They

2065
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 28: likely have a little bit more talent on their team

2066
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,040
Speaker 28: because they're sitting there with about fifty million dollars less

2067
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:04,280
Speaker 28: a year going straight to their quarterback. But you're not

2068
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:08,240
Speaker 28: necessarily a total fear of those teams. You got a

2069
01:45:08,360 --> 01:45:11,320
Speaker 28: nine to four Jacksonville team that's been solid all throughout

2070
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:15,679
Speaker 28: this season, but not very scary. The AFC North's been,

2071
01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 28: you know, kind of a crapshot. It's just it's a

2072
01:45:18,439 --> 01:45:22,479
Speaker 28: very interesting year where the Bills get in at any

2073
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 28: seed and they're likely the vetting favor just based upon

2074
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,280
Speaker 28: like you said, having Josh Allen out there.

2075
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably as wide open an AFC conference race

2076
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,280
Speaker 2: as we have seen it. Even after all the teams

2077
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 2: are decided. I think it's still going to be believed

2078
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 2: to be pretty wide open, especially if the Chiefs aren't

2079
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:43,439
Speaker 2: part of that picture, and they did nothing to help

2080
01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 2: their case last night losing to the Texans. Let's spind

2081
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:51,400
Speaker 2: it forward to Bill's Patriots here, Eric and the odds

2082
01:45:51,439 --> 01:45:53,880
Speaker 2: are long for the Bills to win the division, but

2083
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 2: we do know if the Patriots beat the Bills on Sunday,

2084
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,320
Speaker 2: they will win the division. Talk to me about what

2085
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:03,920
Speaker 2: kind of motivating force that can be to prevent your

2086
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 2: run of division titles from ending in a game that

2087
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 2: you lose directly. I got to believe that's something they

2088
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 2: don't want to see. They don't want to give the

2089
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:14,679
Speaker 2: Patriots a T shirt game here.

2090
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,800
Speaker 28: That's what I was gonna say, nohattan T shirt game

2091
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,920
Speaker 28: at your expense when you've had the dominance in the

2092
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 28: division like you have, and so you know that's likely

2093
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 28: talked about throughout the week. I don't know that they're

2094
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 28: sitting and maybe said it before the game in the

2095
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 28: locker room. While you're playing out there, you know, this

2096
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 28: is your shot at having a shot at the division,

2097
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 28: your first goal for the.

2098
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:39,320
Speaker 15: Season, win the division and go make.

2099
01:46:39,200 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 28: A run at the one seed, and so you know

2100
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 28: likely going to have plenty of emotion heading into the

2101
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,000
Speaker 28: game where you don't necessarily need another factor. But let's

2102
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,799
Speaker 28: say you wake up Wednesday morning it's freezing at Buffalo,

2103
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 28: you're stiff, you're tired, it's week fifteen, you're sore. That

2104
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:59,640
Speaker 28: can be an extra motivating factor where maybe there's a

2105
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 28: point presentation like Shaq Thompson b last week that he

2106
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,599
Speaker 28: said he had made for his talk to the defense.

2107
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:07,440
Speaker 15: Maybe there's a couple of pictures.

2108
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 28: Shown, or you know, let everyone know, hey, this is

2109
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,760
Speaker 28: not gonna happen on our dime this week, and that'd

2110
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 28: be the goal there. But shoot, you get to this

2111
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 28: time of the year, Bill send at nine to four,

2112
01:47:17,320 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 28: knowing that they still need wins to a get in

2113
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 28: the playoffs, be have a better seed, and you still

2114
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,680
Speaker 28: have a real you have a shot eighteen percent or

2115
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,679
Speaker 28: whatever they're called. It's seventeen percent shot to win the division. Well,

2116
01:47:29,880 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 28: it goes up dramatically if you can get a win

2117
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:32,759
Speaker 28: this weekend.

2118
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,640
Speaker 6: What about do you think this? How do you think

2119
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 6: this game will look for the Bills? I mean, certainly

2120
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:41,759
Speaker 6: their office has got to be efficient, probably run the football.

2121
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 6: How do you think this matchup plays out?

2122
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 28: Yeah, it's gonna be freezing cold and Foxborough will see

2123
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:51,760
Speaker 28: if the wind plays a factor. There is a stadium

2124
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 28: they you could catch some win. They've closed off more

2125
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,759
Speaker 28: areas in that stadium over time to make it less windy.

2126
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:00,040
Speaker 28: We'll see how the weather plays a factor. But I

2127
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 28: would assume this is a game where the offense looks

2128
01:48:04,520 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 28: similar to last week. You try to establish the run game,

2129
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,400
Speaker 28: you hit the play action off of it.

2130
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:10,839
Speaker 15: You have some.

2131
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:16,080
Speaker 28: Designed pass plays to manipulate some guys open, similar to

2132
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 28: the pass to Cook where they have Brandon Cooks in

2133
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,639
Speaker 28: the backfield as well. You have a few of those

2134
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 28: mixed in, and then you know, as soon as you

2135
01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 28: can get those safeties down, then you could take your

2136
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,719
Speaker 28: shots down the field. Teams still seem to be pretty

2137
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 28: adamant about not giving up a deep safety against the Bills.

2138
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,920
Speaker 28: Just understanding what Josh can do with his arm, even

2139
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,360
Speaker 28: if you'll say that we have a lack of receiver

2140
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 28: talent on the outside and so it's gonna continue to

2141
01:48:42,080 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 28: be a balance attack. And you know these these these

2142
01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 28: December football games, you generally see some some Josh Allen

2143
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,800
Speaker 28: runs heroics if need be, which is fine. This is

2144
01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:56,400
Speaker 28: what it counts. Don't take those shots as much early

2145
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:59,400
Speaker 28: in the season. This is it's all in a lot now.

2146
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 28: And I love the way seventeen played yesterday.

2147
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,240
Speaker 2: Eric, Thanks for the time we appreciated here on a

2148
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 2: Buffalo victory Monday. We'll catch up with you in New

2149
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 2: England at the end of the week.

2150
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,639
Speaker 15: Okay, sounds for or sounds good looking forward to Yeah.

2151
01:49:14,720 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 2: Forecast high for Foxborough on Sunday is thirty one, but

2152
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 2: they're saying with the wind it will feel between nine

2153
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 2: and twenty one degrees. They're supposed to be pre sip

2154
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,960
Speaker 2: in the morning. Nothing during the game. We'll see if

2155
01:49:29,960 --> 01:49:32,880
Speaker 2: that forecast changes, because we had a forecast similar to

2156
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 2: that early in the week last week, and all of

2157
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,280
Speaker 2: a sudden we've got three inches of snow during the

2158
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:39,559
Speaker 2: course of the game against the Bengals.

2159
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 6: It changed yesterday, it changes day by day and yeah,

2160
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 6: yesterday turned early in this week, like you said, it

2161
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 6: looked like there was not going to be any snow.

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Speaker 6: And then later in the week it was one to three. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and it was somewhat a little less than that.

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Speaker 2: But about that, let's get back to the phones at

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Speaker 2: eight o three oh five fifty eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 2: five fifty here on a Buffalo victory Monday, and to

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Speaker 2: Pat in Hamburg, what's up? Pat?

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Speaker 24: Hey, guys, can you hear me?

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Speaker 7: Yep, yep, big thing in the show.

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Speaker 24: A few things I want to touch on. Shout out

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Speaker 24: to my brother Mark and Greg Gover at Connors and

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01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:17,719
Speaker 24: Farrish and my cousin Cupcake in Connecticut. The cook touchdown

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01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:22,680
Speaker 24: definitely a referee blunder. If they declined the penalty to

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01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 24: get the officiating review, they should have been charged the

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01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:31,679
Speaker 24: time out then after you know, you don't get both.

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01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 24: I think that was a big mess up on the

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Speaker 24: rep part. I don't think the tips are reviewable. I

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01:50:38,120 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 24: think you guys were talking about that a little bit ago.

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01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:42,799
Speaker 24: That happened to us of the Kansas City game earlier

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01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:47,080
Speaker 24: this year, and I want to give some flowers. Jordan

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01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:51,080
Speaker 24: Poyer he was sticking people yesterday. You know, I love

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01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 24: to see him back out there doing his thing aj

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01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 24: Apanessa Big games, you know, not just yesterday, the big

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01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 24: kids on Mahomes and Lamar earlier in the year. Uh,

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01:51:00,920 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 24: this defense just feels different with Shack Thompson at the helm.

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01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 24: I love seeing him out there setting the guys up

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01:51:06,640 --> 01:51:09,599
Speaker 24: and uh the rising tie jash Amllen does it again,

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01:51:12,080 --> 01:51:14,519
Speaker 24: Kyle Brant. I don't know if you guys watch g

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01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:20,080
Speaker 24: MFB kind of UH alluded to it would be lesser

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01:51:20,160 --> 01:51:22,840
Speaker 24: if the Bills don't see Kansas City in the playoffs.

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01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 24: You know, I think his mafia card might have to

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01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 24: be up for review because we beat the guy in

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01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:32,200
Speaker 24: the regular season and that shouldn't affect us if he

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:36,320
Speaker 24: doesn't take care of business. Love the show, guys, keep

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01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 24: doing your thing.

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Speaker 15: Go Bills.

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Speaker 2: Yep, thanks Patt, appreciate the call. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think past interference is reviewable even with the tip,

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Speaker 2: but I'll go back and look.

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01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:47,880
Speaker 4: At it might not be.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, if the Bills win the championship, nobody's gonna care.

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01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 6: Nobody will care who you have to play because the

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 6: teams that get there earn it. That's all there is

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01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 6: to it, and it will be it will mean less.

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01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 6: It's the same thing as if Kansas City got in

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01:52:09,240 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 6: there and Mahomes was out in the first quarter.

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01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,080
Speaker 4: I mean, same thing. It could all happen. None of

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01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 4: it matters.

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Speaker 6: You win the game, you get the flowers, you get

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01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 6: the trophy. Nobody cares. It goes down in history. So yeah,

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01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 6: they can say it on this side of it. Sure

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01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 6: they can say anything they want. But if you win it,

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01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 6: you get everything that comes with it.

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Speaker 4: No matter what.

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Speaker 2: We'll move along and go to Steve and Syracuse next.

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:41,880
Speaker 2: What do you got for Steve? Steve, are you there?

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01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,280
Speaker 2: And I'll put Steve on hold. Might not be listening

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01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:50,240
Speaker 2: at this point in time. We'll pivot and go over

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01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:53,479
Speaker 2: to the tweet sheet, which we have not yet cracked

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01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 2: open at this point in the show. Tweets sheet brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving

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01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 2: company of the Buffalos. Biggest takeaways from the win over

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01:53:02,840 --> 01:53:05,120
Speaker 2: the Bengals, Dinah says, if they play the whole game

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01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:08,440
Speaker 2: like they play in the fourth quarter, they would be unbeatable.

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01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,680
Speaker 2: It's funny how desperation creates a sense of sense of

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01:53:12,760 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 2: urgency from Jesus' life. Benford MVP of that game without

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01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 2: him loss. It's true, hard to argue be hard to

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01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 2: argue that, Chris says, the team's ability to adapt and overcome.

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01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 2: They kept on plugging away and never gave up. Yeah,

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01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 2: I think there's something to be said for that, because

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01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 2: you know, as much as fans are, you know, they

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01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: get disheartened, like, hey, the offense doesn't look like we

2233
01:53:40,560 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 2: used to seeing where all the high flying passes and

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01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:46,439
Speaker 2: bombs and Josh running for eighty yards and whatever. And

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01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:48,439
Speaker 2: when they don't see that every week, they're like, where

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01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 2: is that? Well, sometimes based on an opponent, you can't

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01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:56,880
Speaker 2: play that way because the opponent won't let you because

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01:53:56,920 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 2: they have a fierce pass rush like Houston, and you

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01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 2: have to do something different. And the Bills have adapted

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Speaker 2: in finding ways to beat opponents that play them differently

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01:54:07,520 --> 01:54:10,080
Speaker 2: with different assets that they have at their disposal on

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01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 2: offense and defense. And as we've noted on this show

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01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 2: several times this season, this is a defense that is

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01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:21,080
Speaker 2: severely shorthanded in terms of manpower, and to keep finding

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01:54:21,240 --> 01:54:25,479
Speaker 2: solutions despite being that shorthanded, I think has been nothing

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01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 2: short of impressive. That's just me.

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Speaker 4: Though, I would agree. I would agree.

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01:54:31,360 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 2: Uh, Kevin says, the blitz calling and fourth down aggressiveness

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01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,240
Speaker 2: shows me that this coaching stats staff does have what

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Speaker 2: it takes to get the job done. Coach McDermott made

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01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 2: a lot of the right calls yesterday, a lot of them.

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01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 2: Now his players still have to come through. But putting

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01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 2: faith in the strength of your team, which is the offense.

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01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 2: This team goes three for four on fourth down yesterday,

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Speaker 2: including a touchdown that made it an eleven point game

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01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 2: instead of kicking a field goal that would have only

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01:54:58,120 --> 01:55:00,160
Speaker 2: made it a seven point game with plenty of time

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01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 2: left on the clock three minutes. That was big.

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01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 6: Absolutely, yeah, I would agree. I like the aggressiveness as well.

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01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 6: We're all it's all fun when it works, right if

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01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,640
Speaker 6: you don't convert the fourth down though, you know there

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01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 6: you are in this play, in this spot right here

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01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 6: where Jackson Hawes catches the touchdown puts them up by eleven.

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Speaker 6: You know, you don't get that, you're only you're only

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01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:27,840
Speaker 6: up four. But they do have the length of the

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01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 6: field to go. I mean, you know, ninety five yards

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01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 6: to go, so it does give your defense some space

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Speaker 6: for error. So I like the call because even if

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Speaker 6: you don't get it, you give yourself as much space

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Speaker 6: as you can as possible.

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Speaker 4: But you know they made it happen.

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Speaker 6: The pass protection was fantastic, and Josh was patient and

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01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:51,840
Speaker 6: poisoned enough just to make just to wait for Hawes

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Speaker 6: to come open.

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Speaker 4: It was a great call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us. Here more of your phone

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01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 2: calls on the other side here on this Buffalo victory

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Speaker 2: Monday one Bills Live presented by Kilouda Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radium. QB check In is presented by the University

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01:56:19,640 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 2: of Wyoming. You're ready for any field with the University

2281
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:26,880
Speaker 2: of Wyoming, a proud partner of the Buffalo Bills and

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01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 2: Josh Allen had a day twenty two of twenty eight passing,

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01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 2: completing over seventy eight percent of his throws, two hundred

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01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 2: and fifty one yards through the air, three touchdowns, a

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01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 2: one point thirty nine point seven passer rating. He also

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01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:44,280
Speaker 2: had nine carries for seventy eight rushing yards, including the

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01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:49,520
Speaker 2: forty yard touchdown run. And as big as that play was,

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01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:54,600
Speaker 2: closing it out on third and fifteen with the scramble,

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01:56:54,680 --> 01:56:58,240
Speaker 2: I mean there are games like this where Josh makes

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01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:01,200
Speaker 2: two or three unbeliev plays. He made about a half

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01:57:01,200 --> 01:57:02,040
Speaker 2: a dozen in this one.

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01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, seriously, the forty yard run was unbelieved. We've seen

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01:57:07,080 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 6: him do that. But we've talked at length about all

2294
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,360
Speaker 6: the plays that go unnoticed. The you know, the fourth

2295
01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:19,080
Speaker 6: down throw to Shakir, the fourth down throw to Gabe Davis,

2296
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,720
Speaker 6: and he ran for a first down from a either

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01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 6: a second long or third and long in the first

2298
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 6: half as well going towards the tunnel's play after play

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01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:35,640
Speaker 6: that and some of them go unnoticed like this, I

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01:57:35,680 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 6: talk about it again, the sack he took before he

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01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 6: ran for seventeen yards on the third and fifteen to

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01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:45,600
Speaker 6: put the game away. The play before that, he smartly

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01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,600
Speaker 6: took a sack and ate the ball, and the clock

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01:57:49,720 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 6: kept running, Cincinnata had to use their final time out,

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01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 6: and just that smarts, Just.

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01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:00,880
Speaker 4: Say enough about it.

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Speaker 6: He was he was good, and there were a lot

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01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,800
Speaker 6: of guys who were good. Benford, of course, is another one,

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01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,600
Speaker 6: but there were others. Poyers been mentioned. Got a shout

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01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 6: out today for the way he played Sean McDermott and

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01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 6: his aggression on turning his offense loose a little bit

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01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,600
Speaker 6: against in a team in a game where you knew

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01:58:17,280 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 6: their offense was elite and was going to be able

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01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,040
Speaker 6: to roll it up a little bit. You had to

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01:58:22,160 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 6: kind of keep up with them. And I've used the

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01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:30,200
Speaker 6: term It's true. They chased the Bengals the whole game

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01:58:30,360 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 6: until Benford picked six. They were in chase mode the

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01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,080
Speaker 6: whole game. And they tripped up a couple of times,

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01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,200
Speaker 6: once literally when Ty Johnson was trying to tie it

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01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:41,560
Speaker 6: up at seven in the first quarter, and later on

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01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,120
Speaker 6: when James Cook coughed one up going in on the

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Speaker 6: two they third.

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01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:48,080
Speaker 4: They could not catch them.

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01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:50,680
Speaker 6: And that's why you have to stay aggressive as a

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01:58:50,680 --> 01:58:52,600
Speaker 6: head coach, and McDermott did it.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:01,160
Speaker 2: five fifty until Wendell in Buffalo. What's up, Wendell?

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Speaker 7: How you guys doing right? Basically, you know, the teams

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01:59:09,040 --> 01:59:12,840
Speaker 7: in the NFL are like snowflakes, and basically all of

2331
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 7: the you know, it's different. You know, schemes that need

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01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:20,440
Speaker 7: to be run according to you know who you're playing

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01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:24,000
Speaker 7: that week. And I think that those Mafia and stuff.

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01:59:24,120 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 7: Needs to recognize that and that not you know, getting

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01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 7: so hard on them. We got to win, you know,

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01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,320
Speaker 7: reviable for for various things and stuff you know coming

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01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 7: ahead and this uh, you know, take a you know,

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01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:41,919
Speaker 7: breathe in, breathe out. Hear me now, believe me later.

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01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:44,560
Speaker 2: All right, I'll listen to that.

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01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:45,120
Speaker 4: Okay.

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01:59:45,560 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 2: Not everybody feels that way. And look, everybody's entitled to

2342
01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 2: their opinion. Yeah, I think you got reason to be

2343
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:57,080
Speaker 2: excited though. This team, time and time again finds a

2344
01:59:57,080 --> 02:00:01,240
Speaker 2: way to be resourceful even if they don't have all

2345
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 2: the assets that some fans might believe they need to

2346
02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:08,160
Speaker 2: go the distance this season. They find ways to win

2347
02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:10,880
Speaker 2: even when they don't have all the bullets in the

2348
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 2: chamber due to injury or whatever other reason might crop up.

2349
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,040
Speaker 2: More often than not, they find ways to win football games.

2350
02:00:18,480 --> 02:00:21,040
Speaker 2: And by the time we reach the end of the

2351
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:25,880
Speaker 2: regular season, if the Chiefs don't get in, the Bills

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02:00:25,880 --> 02:00:28,680
Speaker 2: will be the only team in the National Football League

2353
02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 2: to have made the playoffs each of the last seven years,

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02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: the only team if the Chiefs don't get in, because

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02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 2: it's only the Chiefs and the Bills that have made

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02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:39,040
Speaker 2: the playoffs each of the last six years. It is

2357
02:00:39,120 --> 02:00:42,360
Speaker 2: hard to get there, and the Bills have done it

2358
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,240
Speaker 2: to some degree, holding it together with duct tape and staples.

2359
02:00:46,840 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 2: All the injuries they've had this year, they're still winning.

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Speaker 2: To Mike and Ken more next, what's up, Mike?

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Speaker 9: Hey, guys, how's it going?

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02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:55,920
Speaker 2: Good?

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02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 23: Good?

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02:00:55,960 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 11: Good?

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02:00:56,360 --> 02:00:58,600
Speaker 9: I wouldn't want to take anything away from a great game.

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02:00:58,680 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 9: We enjoyed it and take it older during the heyday,

2367
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:03,960
Speaker 9: and man, I would have loved to have been there yesterday.

2368
02:01:04,080 --> 02:01:07,200
Speaker 9: What a sight to see. The one thing is the

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02:01:07,240 --> 02:01:12,240
Speaker 9: discipline of the coaching staff with time control. I don't

2370
02:01:12,240 --> 02:01:14,680
Speaker 9: want to take away from a good game. But when

2371
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:18,080
Speaker 9: you got a good coach, he gets overly excited when

2372
02:01:18,120 --> 02:01:20,800
Speaker 9: they make a big play. The guys are down there

2373
02:01:20,840 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 9: wasting time celebrating with the fans. Next thing, you know,

2374
02:01:24,360 --> 02:01:27,800
Speaker 9: we got to waste a time out in the third quarter.

2375
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:30,880
Speaker 9: God knows what could have happened down the line because

2376
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:33,640
Speaker 9: we can't get ready for a field goal. And one

2377
02:01:33,720 --> 02:01:36,120
Speaker 9: thing for sure, take the five yards, don't waste it.

2378
02:01:37,240 --> 02:01:40,240
Speaker 9: So I thought the coaching rate there failed the team

2379
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,520
Speaker 9: in case they needed that time out towards the end

2380
02:01:43,520 --> 02:01:44,040
Speaker 9: of the game.

2381
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:50,360
Speaker 2: Your thoughts, well, the clock was running down. It's a

2382
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 2: weather game, and I believe at that point in time.

2383
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:57,480
Speaker 4: That was after the Benford play.

2384
02:01:57,520 --> 02:01:59,200
Speaker 2: Correct, He's not.

2385
02:01:59,240 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 4: I think it was.

2386
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to call a time out. That's an

2387
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 2: important extra point because you're going from a three point

2388
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,880
Speaker 2: lead to a four point lead. So maybe you don't

2389
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:12,240
Speaker 2: want to take a five yard penalty on a bad

2390
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:16,160
Speaker 2: weather field and kicking towards the scoreboard end, which.

2391
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:19,240
Speaker 6: Is harder usually. And he's missed one in each of

2392
02:02:19,280 --> 02:02:20,760
Speaker 6: the last two weeks, so.

2393
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:22,839
Speaker 4: Maybe I got.

2394
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:26,760
Speaker 2: Three missus Meason on extra points. Yeah, and this is

2395
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 2: you're you're. It's the difference of a three point game

2396
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:33,680
Speaker 2: and a four point game. Yes, they celebrated too long.

2397
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:36,040
Speaker 2: It forced the head coach to call a time out

2398
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,520
Speaker 2: because they didn't have guys lined up and ready. But

2399
02:02:40,760 --> 02:02:42,560
Speaker 2: the difference between a three and a four point game

2400
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:45,120
Speaker 2: is pretty big. So I'm burning the time out there, right,

2401
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:48,000
Speaker 2: You're not. You review it with your players and say, look,

2402
02:02:48,480 --> 02:02:52,480
Speaker 2: express yourselves, be happy you scored, congratulate your teammates, but

2403
02:02:52,520 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 2: wrap it up in about ten seconds because we got

2404
02:02:54,560 --> 02:02:55,600
Speaker 2: an extra point to handle.

2405
02:02:55,720 --> 02:02:59,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you can put Yeah. Having to call the

2406
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:05,800
Speaker 6: time out out is the coach's decision. Taking too long

2407
02:03:05,960 --> 02:03:08,839
Speaker 6: to celebrate is not on the coach. It's on the players.

2408
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,640
Speaker 6: You gotta have some guys out of there. Hey, and

2409
02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 6: that was an enormous it was. The place was going crazy.

2410
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 6: I get it. But that's not just on the head coach.

2411
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 6: That's on the players, the staff position, good position coaches.

2412
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 6: And yeah, Chris Tabor too. I mean he's got to

2413
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:25,680
Speaker 6: He's like, hey, what are we doing here, Let's go.

2414
02:03:26,280 --> 02:03:29,160
Speaker 6: He's got to have that going on too. And the

2415
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:34,120
Speaker 6: and it's also, let's face it, I didn't think about this,

2416
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,040
Speaker 6: but this is really true. I hadn't thought about this.

2417
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:40,880
Speaker 6: Cincinnati was just starting to drive. So your offensive, your

2418
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,080
Speaker 6: offensive lineman, you're running back. All those guys are sitting

2419
02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:44,920
Speaker 6: on the bed. They're just getting their breath right, they're

2420
02:03:45,000 --> 02:03:48,480
Speaker 6: just sitting down, starting to get think about what's going on,

2421
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:50,800
Speaker 6: getting warm and all that. Then the thing happens. He

2422
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:55,320
Speaker 6: goes to the distance. They go from not having anything

2423
02:03:55,360 --> 02:03:58,480
Speaker 6: to do except get warm to having to go on

2424
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,160
Speaker 6: the field, get celebrated, have to go on the field,

2425
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 6: get dressed, put their helmets on, and get the field.

2426
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:08,840
Speaker 6: The extra point team on there. It was unexpected to

2427
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:10,720
Speaker 6: have that change over that fact like it was for

2428
02:04:10,760 --> 02:04:11,280
Speaker 6: the fans.

2429
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:12,720
Speaker 4: So you get that too.

2430
02:04:12,760 --> 02:04:16,640
Speaker 6: That's a couple of extra seconds to think about the

2431
02:04:16,640 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 6: fact that, oh my gosh, not only is that the

2432
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 6: almost awesome play of the game, I got to go

2433
02:04:21,280 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 6: back to the bench and get my helmet now. So

2434
02:04:24,160 --> 02:04:26,160
Speaker 6: you got that going on too, and that costs you

2435
02:04:26,200 --> 02:04:27,360
Speaker 6: a little bit of time in there.

2436
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:28,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's gotta be ready.

2437
02:04:28,840 --> 02:04:31,040
Speaker 6: You're right, that's a wasted time out. But I don't

2438
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 6: put that on Sean. That's that's on that's on the

2439
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 6: moment Sean calling that time out. I'm not gonna call

2440
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:39,960
Speaker 6: them for I'm like, yeah, you know what, they needed

2441
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 6: that point?

2442
02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:42,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to back it up five yards and make

2443
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:46,080
Speaker 2: it a thirty eight yard er at that end in

2444
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:50,000
Speaker 2: snow with bad footing, I don't I think it was

2445
02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:50,360
Speaker 2: worth it.

2446
02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 6: But that that's something you have with your players and

2447
02:04:53,000 --> 02:04:55,280
Speaker 6: you say, hey, guys, we can't do that. Yeah, that's

2448
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:56,400
Speaker 6: that's on the players.

2449
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:57,520
Speaker 2: Just got to get corrected.

2450
02:04:57,640 --> 02:04:59,600
Speaker 4: That's on the players, and and they'll hear about it

2451
02:04:59,640 --> 02:05:00,240
Speaker 4: for sure.

2452
02:05:01,640 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in Syracuse next. What's up, Mike,

2453
02:05:06,680 --> 02:05:07,360
Speaker 2: Ti Chris I.

2454
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,960
Speaker 13: Steve Happy victory Monday. Great game yesterday, you know, another

2455
02:05:11,000 --> 02:05:13,440
Speaker 13: week with the Bills, you know, another small heart attack.

2456
02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:17,720
Speaker 13: While watching the game, I just had a couple I

2457
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:20,080
Speaker 13: just had a couple of takeaways and a couple of

2458
02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:25,800
Speaker 13: questions about about the game. My my questions would be, uh,

2459
02:05:26,000 --> 02:05:28,240
Speaker 13: just just about a couple of the REP calls. One

2460
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:33,200
Speaker 13: one was the pass interference on Taron Johnson. I believe

2461
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:36,560
Speaker 13: it was in the first half, maybe against Higgins. I'm

2462
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:40,040
Speaker 13: not sure where he was trying to go deep. The

2463
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 13: ball was obviously under throwned, and I don't know if

2464
02:05:42,400 --> 02:05:45,520
Speaker 13: Higgins or the receiver maybe it was chased, was trying

2465
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 13: to cut back to the ball. He obviously stopped it

2466
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:51,000
Speaker 13: with snowy. They slid and and all all Johnson did

2467
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 13: was basically slide into him, and they saw down and

2468
02:05:52,680 --> 02:05:55,960
Speaker 13: they called pass interference. How how do they determine whether

2469
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:58,280
Speaker 13: or not that ball would have even been catchable or not,

2470
02:05:58,360 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 13: because I know that that plays the factor into the

2471
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:02,360
Speaker 13: call as well, whether or not it even was a

2472
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:05,760
Speaker 13: catchable ball. It was so underthrown it didn't look like

2473
02:06:05,800 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 13: it was gonna be So I was looking for your

2474
02:06:08,480 --> 02:06:09,120
Speaker 13: comments on that.

2475
02:06:11,160 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 4: Also.

2476
02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,839
Speaker 13: I just had a quick a quick comment about Keon Coleman.

2477
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:17,360
Speaker 13: Although I thought he got it together and did contribute

2478
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:21,920
Speaker 13: throughout the game well on one play, I believe it

2479
02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 13: wasn't the first half too, when I felt like Josh

2480
02:06:24,000 --> 02:06:26,280
Speaker 13: was probably scrambling for twenty minutes trying to get the

2481
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 13: ball out. Guys were running through the end zone. I

2482
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 13: saw Knox running across, I believe Kincaid running across all

2483
02:06:32,640 --> 02:06:36,200
Speaker 13: kinds of guys trying to get open, and Keon ran

2484
02:06:36,240 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 13: into the end zone. I believe he was double covered,

2485
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:40,720
Speaker 13: so I understand it's probably extremely difficult to get open,

2486
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:43,000
Speaker 13: but it looked more like he was just standing there.

2487
02:06:44,120 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 13: Is that just inexperience or do they try to teach

2488
02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:49,080
Speaker 13: these guys to draw their defenders to the corner of

2489
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:50,640
Speaker 13: the end zone to get him out of the way,

2490
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:53,400
Speaker 13: or is there something else that goes into that that

2491
02:06:53,400 --> 02:06:57,960
Speaker 13: that I just probably don't understand. And lastly, I just

2492
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,000
Speaker 13: wanted to make a couple of quick comments about Josh

2493
02:07:00,160 --> 02:07:03,400
Speaker 13: and the reporters and the post games. Probably a little

2494
02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:06,360
Speaker 13: off topic for being on the show, but Terry Bradshaw

2495
02:07:06,360 --> 02:07:07,840
Speaker 13: and straight Hand and those guys, I think they do

2496
02:07:07,880 --> 02:07:10,840
Speaker 13: a good job. I don't just like him, but I

2497
02:07:10,880 --> 02:07:13,520
Speaker 13: almost feel like they get disappointed.

2498
02:07:12,880 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 15: When the Bills win.

2499
02:07:14,240 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 4: It's like.

2500
02:07:16,160 --> 02:07:18,640
Speaker 13: It's almost frustrating to me sometimes, but I almost kind

2501
02:07:18,640 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 13: of like it because I feel like it. For a while,

2502
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 13: that feeling has kind of been coming back, where everybody's

2503
02:07:23,640 --> 02:07:25,160
Speaker 13: against the Bills and no one likes to tea him

2504
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:28,160
Speaker 13: do well because everything was all talking about Joe Burrow,

2505
02:07:28,240 --> 02:07:30,280
Speaker 13: talking about Joe Burrow, how he's back, how he's playing

2506
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,840
Speaker 13: so great. He obviously did have a good game, but

2507
02:07:33,040 --> 02:07:35,080
Speaker 13: I hate to break it to those guys. Our guy

2508
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,240
Speaker 13: played better and won the game for us. He came

2509
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 13: up with the clutch plays. I'll played Burrow, I think overall,

2510
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,160
Speaker 13: and put the team on his back and won the game.

2511
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:47,000
Speaker 13: Other people contributed, but I felt as though Josh Allen

2512
02:07:47,400 --> 02:07:50,120
Speaker 13: was MVP. Josh Allen just like everybody's been saying, and

2513
02:07:50,160 --> 02:07:52,680
Speaker 13: they don't give him the credit when it's due. You know,

2514
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,200
Speaker 13: Joe Burrow threw two picks and cost his team the game.

2515
02:07:55,440 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 13: I don't care how well you play, you lose the

2516
02:07:57,160 --> 02:08:00,200
Speaker 13: game for your team. Our guy outplayed him, and and

2517
02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:01,960
Speaker 13: I just saw Josh played great and it was a

2518
02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 13: great game. I'll, you know, can hang up and listen

2519
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:06,400
Speaker 13: to your answers and stuff like that and go bills

2520
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:07,280
Speaker 13: and things. Take my call.

2521
02:08:07,360 --> 02:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, true thing, Mike.

2522
02:08:10,520 --> 02:08:15,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, Josh out played him. Joe played good, no question.

2523
02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 4: Uh. The one.

2524
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 6: The only play I hold back against Joe would be

2525
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:22,240
Speaker 6: the you know, the the interception to Benford that was bad,

2526
02:08:23,560 --> 02:08:26,440
Speaker 6: but they caught him. Like I said, the tipped pass.

2527
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:27,960
Speaker 6: I mean, what are you gonna do? It went right

2528
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:28,440
Speaker 6: to the guy.

2529
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:29,080
Speaker 4: And so.

2530
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:34,520
Speaker 6: I can't speak for what studio guys are thinking when

2531
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:36,840
Speaker 6: they're talking about this. Some of us, probably the producers

2532
02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:38,960
Speaker 6: wanting them to talk a little bit about Cincinnati because

2533
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 6: they know that Buffalo is going to be there. There gonna

2534
02:08:40,640 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 6: have plenty of chances to talk about them. Let's get

2535
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:46,240
Speaker 6: in some Cincinnati comments before they disappear. That might be

2536
02:08:46,320 --> 02:08:49,960
Speaker 6: some of it. I wouldn't take it personally. I know

2537
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 6: the teams, don't they They talk about the pertinent issues

2538
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 6: of the day, and it's in the moment, and Cincinnati

2539
02:08:57,960 --> 02:09:00,720
Speaker 6: was on their plate and Cincinnati looked good offensively, and

2540
02:09:00,720 --> 02:09:03,200
Speaker 6: it's because of Joe. I don't have a problem with

2541
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 6: him talking like that. It's fine because when Josh does it,

2542
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:06,360
Speaker 6: they do it as well.

2543
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, as for Keon, it is a little disconcerting to

2544
02:09:12,840 --> 02:09:17,200
Speaker 2: see him jogging around when scramble rules are in effect.

2545
02:09:17,360 --> 02:09:20,000
Speaker 2: This is not the first time we have seen that

2546
02:09:20,160 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 2: happen with him. I'm not going to pretend to know

2547
02:09:22,760 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 2: what his assignment is in a scramble rules situation when

2548
02:09:26,760 --> 02:09:29,480
Speaker 2: the play is broken down and Josh has gone off script,

2549
02:09:30,680 --> 02:09:33,400
Speaker 2: But for some reason there seems to be a bit

2550
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,360
Speaker 2: of a disconnect there. I don't know how you can

2551
02:09:36,640 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 2: watch film for the last fourteen weeks and not see

2552
02:09:41,720 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 2: the benefits of your teammates when they hustle to help

2553
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:51,520
Speaker 2: out their quarterback and make fruitful, sometimes gigantic, game changing

2554
02:09:51,600 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 2: plays on scramble rule plays. So I would hope that

2555
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,560
Speaker 2: just seeing that on film every week with your teammates

2556
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 2: would be enough to inspire you to bust your hump

2557
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:06,160
Speaker 2: to get open for your quarterback when the play breaks down.

2558
02:10:06,320 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 2: And too often the network cameras seemed to carry him

2559
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 2: just jogging around.

2560
02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:17,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, when for me it was always on a scrambled drill,

2561
02:10:18,160 --> 02:10:20,200
Speaker 6: you went from being whatever option you were in the

2562
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 6: in the play, either either two or the three option

2563
02:10:23,320 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 6: on a play, or the last option you go to

2564
02:10:26,080 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 6: option number one if you can get yourself open and

2565
02:10:29,600 --> 02:10:31,760
Speaker 6: that's whatever, guys. And that's kind of the mindset I

2566
02:10:31,800 --> 02:10:35,280
Speaker 6: took into it as a player. If the play breaks down,

2567
02:10:35,400 --> 02:10:38,000
Speaker 6: that's your chance to become the number one option if

2568
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:42,400
Speaker 6: you work hard enough at it. Some guys and it

2569
02:10:42,480 --> 02:10:45,280
Speaker 6: is a talent, and some guys are not good at it.

2570
02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 6: Another guy who was a Buffalo Bill who was horrible

2571
02:10:50,920 --> 02:10:56,000
Speaker 6: at the scrambled drill was Sammy. He was terrible at it.

2572
02:10:56,640 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 6: That play would break down and Sammy would just stop,

2573
02:10:58,760 --> 02:11:00,120
Speaker 6: he would give up.

2574
02:11:00,120 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 2: It's not that he was.

2575
02:11:00,720 --> 02:11:05,200
Speaker 6: Bad at about Yeah, stuff like that goes on, and

2576
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:08,920
Speaker 6: you've you can bet conversations are had about what it's like.

2577
02:11:09,400 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 6: You can't watch the Buffalo Bills offense play and think

2578
02:11:13,720 --> 02:11:16,040
Speaker 6: you're not gonna have to be good at that.

2579
02:11:19,080 --> 02:11:19,840
Speaker 4: You just can't.

2580
02:11:20,640 --> 02:11:25,080
Speaker 6: So you can bet whatever you're seeing, it's being seen,

2581
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:29,839
Speaker 6: talked about, dissected, and coached by the staff.

2582
02:11:31,600 --> 02:11:35,160
Speaker 2: It's gotta change. I think that's pretty evident. Gonna take

2583
02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 2: a break here, try to squeeze a call in on

2584
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 2: the backside. When we get back on a Buffalo victory

2585
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: Monday here on One Bill's Live, stay with us, and

2586
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:58,600
Speaker 2: I squeeze one last call in here on one Bill's Live.

2587
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 2: In our final segments A Dylan and James Town what's

2588
02:12:00,760 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 2: up Dylan.

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Speaker 5: Hey, fellas, that be victory Monday to you.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, thanks.

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Speaker 5: I just wanted to touch on the Shaq Thompson Terrell

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Speaker 5: Bernard situation. It feels like Shack Thompson has just brought

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Speaker 5: a spark for the defense. It seems like every week

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Speaker 5: he's got some big physical downhill play either at the

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Speaker 5: line of scrimmager behind it. I think when Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 5: comes back, I don't think he's going to be one

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Speaker 5: hundred percent. I think you got to keep on running

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Speaker 5: Shack Thompson if he keeps playing like this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's.

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Speaker 2: A It's a good problem to have on a defense

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Speaker 2: that is short on manpower. It's nice to have a

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Speaker 2: surplus somewhere, and there's unquestionably a surplus there. And I

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Speaker 2: don't see any reason why you couldn't even do a

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Speaker 2: rotation if you wanted to. And let's remember this, with

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Speaker 2: the way the injuries have gone on the defensive side

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Speaker 2: of the ball this season, by the time Bernard is healthy,

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Speaker 2: someone else might be injured.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asked for that, but could you see it

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Speaker 2: happening with the way this year is gone for sure. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 2: so let's worry about crossing that bridge when we get

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Speaker 2: to it. We'll see what Terrell Bernard's status is for

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Speaker 2: this week's game coming up here. Still dealing with that

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Speaker 2: elbow injury. He's working hard to get back, but we'll

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Speaker 2: see if coach McDermott shed some light on that in

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Speaker 2: his press conference later this afternoon scheduled for four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: You'll have an update on some other players as well.

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Speaker 2: We know Cole Bishop left this game with cramping, which

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Speaker 2: isn't necessarily an injury, and hopefully it's nothing more than cramping,

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Speaker 2: but we'll probably get an update on his status as well,

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Speaker 2: because Jordan Poyer and Jordan Hancock finished that game at

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Speaker 2: safety right this past week. So because you want as

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Speaker 2: many hands on deck as you can for this one.

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Speaker 2: This is a big game.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, and you got to play well. Patriots are

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Speaker 6: going to force you to play your best to beat them.

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Speaker 6: They're not going to give you anything, and that's that

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Speaker 6: has been at times tough for this Bill's edition of

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Speaker 6: the Bills. Now.

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Speaker 2: Part of the reason why they lost back in week

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Speaker 2: five was because the Bills helped the Patriots beat them

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Speaker 2: with three giveaways, and they still needed a field goal

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Speaker 2: at the gun to win twenty three to twenty. Now,

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Speaker 2: they're probably a better team now than they were back

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Speaker 2: in Week five question, but the Bills might be a

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Speaker 2: little different and better in some ways as well here

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Speaker 2: in Week fifteen as well. So and hopefully one of

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Speaker 2: the ways they're better is not giving the ball away

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Speaker 2: on road games, because that has reared its ugly head

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Speaker 2: far too many times. Big show for you tomorrow. We've

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Speaker 2: got Mitch Morris, former Bills center, joining us, as well

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Speaker 2: as ESPN NFL analyst dan Orlofsky. Will see you tomorrow

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Speaker 2: at one