1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savior prediction of iHeart Radio. I'm 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: Annie Reese and I'm Lauren vogel Bum and today we 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: have an episode for you about the cloud Berry. Yes, 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: which fun name. Also, I never heard of them, Okay, 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: al right, Well there's a good reason for that. Um. 6 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: And it's that they're really hard to find outside of 7 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: areas where they're grown, which is kind of why we 8 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: want to talk about them. Yeah, they're really cool. They're 9 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: really cool. Um. And it's it's neat to me that 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: there's just small pockets where you can find find them. 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: And it's sort of like, look when you do a 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: lot of times like yeah, and it's a it's a 13 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: really big deal in like all of the cultures that 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 1: have them because they're usually only only available for like 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: three weeks a year. Yeah, you have to go hiking 16 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: into a swamp to find them. I mean, does it 17 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: that sound fun? Is that cool? HI think it's cool? 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I have not. I've never had them myself. 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: So I'm like, Okay, we're going to have to go someplace, 20 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: um during that like three week window in the summer. 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm into it, and hike into a bog and get 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: some cloudberries, and then I feel like the horror movie 23 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: idea rights itself. I don't need to tell you what 24 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: it is, but I do need to just it's in 25 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: my contract that I have to make a horror movie 26 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,759 Speaker 1: reference the idea of once per episode at least once. Yeah, 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: I know this is pretty much how the ritual started. 28 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think, yes, well it'll be a grand 29 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: old time, so I look forward to it, Lauren, And 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: this one is very like a listener request heavy, like 31 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: if you've had them, if you've gone hiking into that bar, um, 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: if you've got recipes with them, please please let us know. 33 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely yes. But I guess this brings us to 34 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: our question cloud berries. What are they? Well? Uh, cloudberry 35 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: is a type of fruit that looks sort of like 36 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,839 Speaker 1: a raspberry, but it's it's little sections are less little. Um. 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: It has like fewer larger sections per berry. Um. They're 38 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: ruby pink while they're growing and turned golden to sunset 39 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: orange when they're ripe. They're pretty delicate. Um. And I've 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: heard them described in flavor is like sharply tart and 41 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: a little bit whiny and very sweet. Um, sort of 42 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 1: like pineapple or apply and a little bit floral. Um again, 43 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: I haven't had them, so I'm going off of what 44 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: the Internet has told me. But but y'all, like they 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: look like Nintendo designed berry Like they this looks like 46 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: a thing that you're supposed to feed to Pokemon one. Oh, 47 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: I could see that. I've been playing Auto Mario Party 48 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: lately and there's a very basic video game, um mini 49 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: game within the video game. Excuse me, but yeah, they're 50 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: very cloudberries are very pretty, very beautiful. Um. It kind 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: of look surreal or like ethereal out of this world. Yeah. Yeah, 52 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: I'm so curious about them. Okay, all right, Um, I 53 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: at the very least need to get my hands on 54 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: some jam made from them. Um, but I'm getting ahead 55 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: of myself. Botanical name Rubus Cama morris. The cloudberry is 56 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: in the Rosaica or rose family, same genuses raspberries and strawberries. 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: Cloudberries grow wild in like Subarctic pete bogs. They are 58 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: not domesticated, but rather foraged wild. The plants are short 59 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: and herbaceous that it means just like soft, not woody, 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: with broad leaves that reminds me a lot of strawberry leaves. 61 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: They have little underground rhizomes like strawberries, and mostly propagate 62 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: through shoots instead of via seeds. They flower with them 63 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: small white blooms in the spring, and if pollinated, will 64 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: fruit in the summer. And those fruits are collections, like amalgamations, 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: like little voltrons of um individually pollinated fruits. Yeah. They 66 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: are known by different names in the areas where they're grown. UM. 67 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes called the moss berry in Alaska or the bake 68 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: apple in Canada. Um. We apparently get the English cloud 69 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: berry from its nomenclature in Ireland and Scotland, which took 70 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: the Old English word clud meaning hill, and appended berry 71 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: to it clud berry, cludberry. Yeah. I like clud berry too. 72 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: All of those names are pretty fun to be honest, right. 73 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to find the etymology of bake apple 74 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: and I it's got one of those stories that I 75 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: think is never true. Um. That's um. That's like a 76 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: misunderstanding between languages story of like a group of UM 77 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: French Canadians and a group of English speakers hanging out, 78 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: both of them being like, what's this berry and asking 79 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: each other and neither knowing, but the English speakers miss 80 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: hearing UM. The French speakers saying bake a belle like 81 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: like like, what's this berry called, and going, oh, bake apple, 82 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: that's what it's called. I don't think it's true. I 83 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: don't think it's true either, but that's it's also fun, 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, is right? Um? In different places knowledge about 85 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: where you can find patches of these growing are like 86 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: guarded family secrets, passed down generation to generation. UM. And 87 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: by all accounts, yep, they are a pain in the 88 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: rear to find and forage. I mean, like you're in 89 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: a swamp. There's usually only one berry per plant, um, 90 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: and so you know, and they do grow and like 91 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 1: like clusters. But wow, that feels like an ultimate question 92 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: a video game or something very rare very. And when 93 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: you find it, it's you're so excited, but then the 94 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,599 Speaker 1: swamp bogs follows you up. You've got to be very 95 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: careful foraging it. You know that kind of situation. I 96 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: love it. Um. They are eaten fresh um, but also 97 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: made into jams and syrups and alcoholic beverages UM or 98 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: cooked down and baked into or heaped onto all kinds 99 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: of sweet and savory dishes. They're apparently a favorite, either 100 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: fresh or preserved with this squeaky roasted cheese from Finland. Um, 101 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be mispronouncing this. I'm sorry, uh Lapa, 102 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: you still late you stuff something like that. I did 103 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: look it up. She did. There was a whole roller 104 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: coaster of emotions trying to get this correct. But as always, listeners, 105 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: you can let us know if it looks like a 106 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: really good cheese dish, like sounds good, like like roasted 107 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: cheese kurds. Yes, I want that, please and thank you anyway. Okay, 108 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: back to the cloud berry. Um, it is really hard 109 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: to get them fresh outside of where they're grown, which 110 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: is right like like Canada, Alaska, UM, the northern parts 111 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: of the British Isles, the northern parts of Scandinavia, and 112 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: the northern parts of Russia. UM. In most of the 113 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: United States below like New Hampshire, your best bet is 114 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: going to be in jam format like i Ka carries 115 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: it in their store sometimes. Um. The seeds are also 116 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: pressed for their oil, which is used in the cosmetic industry, 117 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: so a lot a lot of uses. Okay, Um, well 118 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: what about the nutrition. They're pretty good for you when 119 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: they're fresh. Lots of micronutrients, including a good punch of 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: vitamin C, which people have enjoyed them for for a 121 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: very long time. UM. But more about that in the 122 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: history section. Of course, when you you know, mix them 123 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: with a bunch of lard for example, UM and sugar, 124 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: it's going to be a little bit less healthy, but 125 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: still delicious. Oh. Absolutely, absolutely, We do have some numbers 126 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: for you. We do, um because these are not industrially produced. UM. 127 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: It is a little bit hard to track down like 128 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: production numbers for them. UM. But taking Finland as an example, UM, 129 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: if you look at um, the wild berries of Finland uh, like, 130 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: including cloud berries and bill berries and lincoln berries. UM. 131 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: It's thought that about like two point two billion pounds 132 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: of wild berries grow every year, but only a slim 133 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: fraction of that actually gets picked like five overall. Um. 134 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: It's a little higher for cloud berries because they are 135 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: so prized like about but still like such such a 136 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: small amount, such a small amount um. Uh. Again from Finland, 137 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: that amounts to some like like twenty five to thirty 138 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: million kilos a year, which is like fifty five to 139 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: sixty six million pounds um. The plant is featured on 140 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: Finland's two euro coin. UM. There are festivals around the world, UM. 141 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: Celebrating those few weeks that you can get them fresh. Um. 142 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: One of them I read about from Finland has what 143 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: was described as a traditional rubber boot throwing contest. Oh, yes, 144 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: the traditional rubber boot throwing contest. I need to know 145 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: more about this, someone, please right in, please and um. 146 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: Author Mimi Sheriton included cloud berries in her book A 147 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: Thousand Foods To Eat Before You Die. Well, there you go. 148 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: Now we have to I think we've collected enough evidence 149 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: to present a plan to our boss. We've got to 150 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: figure out we gotta get to the bottom of this 151 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: boot throwing contest. We do. We've got to go marching 152 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: into swamp at a certain time per year, and this 153 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: book tells us we have to eat them before we die. 154 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: So so hey, that's three solid points. Who is anyone 155 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 1: to argue with that level of logic? Hey me, I 156 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: think it's air tight. I think this is air tight. 157 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: And then you just start turning around. You're like, you 158 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: do you want me to go through life without trying cloudberries? 159 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: You monster? See, I think we got this. I think 160 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: we do. I uh, well, I'm going to start drafting 161 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: that proposal in my head. But in the meanwhile, um, 162 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: We are going to get into the history in a 163 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: minute here, but but first we're going to take a 164 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: quick break for a word from our sponsor, and we're back. 165 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: Thank you sponsor, Yes, thank you. So the cloudberry's history 166 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: is a bit murky, but it most likely originated in Scandinavia, Russia, 167 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: Canada and perhaps the northern US um and throughout history 168 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: they have long been viewed as medicinal. Yes, yeah, medicinal 169 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: in addition to tasty um, probably Aboriginal people's um were 170 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: eating these going way way back. Um and Vikings may 171 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: have brought them on voyages to help combat scurvy preserved 172 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: in barrels. I believe in oils. Yes. And here's something 173 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: from about the Norwegian use of cloud berries. This is 174 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: from a German physician who had traveled to Norway to 175 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: investigate a possible treatment for scurvy. Scurvey was a really 176 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: big deal at this time, as globalization and colonization were 177 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: occurring around the world. There was a lot of people 178 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: traveling via ship not getting fresh fruits and vegetables, and 179 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: scurvy is terrible, like really bad, so so people were 180 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: really paying attention to this problem. It was a matter 181 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: of big concern and a lot of inquiry um, and 182 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: that's why we talked about it very frequently in these episodes. 183 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: So yes, it's quite a big deal. And this is 184 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: quite a long quote, but come along the journey. I 185 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: promise it is worth the journey. Okay. They cook the 186 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: berries in an earthen or metal pot to a soft 187 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: consistency without adding other liquid, because the juices are rich 188 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: and soft and they do not want them to be 189 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 1: diluted with other liquids. There are many who mix this 190 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: jam with more tasty things, such as honey wine from 191 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: the island finn in which these northern populations take the 192 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: highest enjoyment. They then preserve this jam very carefully in 193 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: appropriate bases, covered with melted healthy butter, so that it 194 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: is not spoiled by the air of the environment. And 195 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: this jam is known and most well proven as a 196 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: remedy for them against scurvy. And you would not easily 197 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: believe the miracles these people in Norway make with this 198 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: one medicine every day. Indeed, they absolutely swear that nothing 199 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: has been celebrated with as many praises until now, not 200 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: even either the scurvy grass or the common chick weed 201 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: or watercress and other plants of this type which the 202 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: Germans brag of and used for themselves. And indeed, one 203 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 1: has to praise unique goodness of God because he wanted 204 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: to provide this wonderful plant for remote Norway, a country 205 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: that extends longer into the north and which has a 206 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: lot of terrible diseases because of the roughness of the 207 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: weather and soil. And God wanted indeed to cure by 208 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: indigenous remedies that the harsh, decaying melancholic diseases which are 209 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: very prominent there. So that cool kind of takes a turn. 210 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: But clearly very praise the cloud berry. It was very 211 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: praised and seems to have been quite effective. Yeah for sure. Yeah. 212 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: And Europeans who came to North America observed the plant 213 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: here as well. Um uh. Specifically one Andrew Graham, who 214 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: was a naturalist working for the Hudson Bay Company in Canada, 215 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: um in the mid seventeen hundreds. Yes, he wrote about 216 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: the cloudberry. Cloudberry plants grow in a dry, mossy soil. 217 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Is of the form of a strawberry, but near thrice 218 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: as large, and of a deep yellow. It seems glutinous 219 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: when eaten raw but It's very agreeable when made into 220 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: tarts and has much resemblance in taste to apples. The 221 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: shrub which produces them is not thicker than coarse sewing twine. 222 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: It runs for several yards on the ground before it 223 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: penetrates through the moss and just emerges at its end 224 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: to produce a white flower similar to the daisy, but 225 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: much inferior in size to this succeeds the fruit or berry. 226 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: There is only one berry to a stock. Well you know, 227 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. You gotta take daisies down like that. 228 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: But very agreeable when made into tarts. Is nice, lovely, Yeah, 229 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:42,359 Speaker 1: quite agreeable, I must say. M h um. A doctoral 230 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: thesis published in positive that cloudberries were very effective against scurvy. 231 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: Uh And then apparently cloudberries grow on one mountain slope 232 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: in Ireland. Again, listeners, if you know about this, if 233 00:14:56,040 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: you witness this, please please let us know. Um. So. 234 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: When they first popped up in the written record in 235 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: that area in eighteen twenty six, they were called plentiful 236 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: and abundant. However, the next mentioned didn't take place until 237 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: eight two, when two botanists discovered just these two small 238 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: patches and rom that the berries occurred sparingly um and 239 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty a prominent naturalist believed the cloud berry 240 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: to be extinct in Ireland. However, this belief was disproved 241 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: when some were found in nineteen fifty eight. As of 242 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: two thousand three, only nineteen shoots were recorded in that area. 243 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: So is this one slope of a mountain and um, 244 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of research as to why they 245 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: went from apparently a lot to just a little and 246 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: what seems to be a fairly short amount of time. Um. 247 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: And it was very fascinating. It was sort of beyond 248 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: the scope of my understanding, but basically like changes in 249 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: the soil and then a new berry was introduced. I 250 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: think there were the big ones that they mentioned. The 251 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: weather changed, she used a bit um, But yeah, there's 252 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: like these two little patches just still hold it on. Yeah, 253 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: all right, Well, I'm rooting for him to plant pun 254 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: but now it is it is. Oh No. According to 255 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: a nineteen fifty three source called Edible Plants of the Arctic, 256 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: the indigenous people of Alaska made a dessert of caribou, talo, 257 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: seal oil, and codberries. Some sources suggest that people from 258 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: that region have been making that for thousands of years um, 259 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: and then it was often made by women after the 260 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: first catch of seal. Uh. Yeah, this is this is 261 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing. Um. You can look up recipes for it, um, 262 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: including variations that use less like localized ingredients. If you 263 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: don't happen to have caribout talo at home, um uh, 264 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: it's called a good duck yes, um a k u 265 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: t a q. Yeah. It's usually an animal fat plus 266 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: sugar plus berries situation, sometimes blended with a texturizer like 267 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: I'm mashed potatoes or ground fish, and it sounds really 268 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: different and lovely, and I really need to try something. 269 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: Totally agreed. Totally agree. We're racking up all the things 270 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: we gotta try in this one. Other sources indicate that 271 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: indigenous peoples in the this area use codberries for medicinal 272 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: purposes as well, and several medicinal sources at this time 273 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: in general recommended it for a wide a wide array 274 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: of quote feminine complaints like minstrel cramps, painful labor, and infertility. 275 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: From the author of the work The Wild Berry Book, 276 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: Romance Recipes and Remedies. A substance in the leaves of 277 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: red raspberries variously called framamine I hope so fray green 278 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: are fraggerine um I probably butchered all of those, but 279 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: let's we're in a row with it isolated in the 280 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: nineteen forties Innthen's Relaxes and Tones the Uterus, thus exonerating 281 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: the old wives advice that raspberry tea should be taken 282 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: throughout pregnancy, labor, and postpartuition. The leaves, according to modern analysis, 283 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: are also high minesium, which is still in use to 284 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: prevent miscarriage. So that's interesting again, a lot of inquiry 285 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: into the cloud berry yeah, and its potential medicinal benefits. 286 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: Cloud Berries were discovered in Minnesota in nineteen fifty four, 287 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: and several decades later, in nineteen eighty four, it was 288 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: named as an endangered species in that state. In the 289 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: early two thousands, international interest in cloud berries really picked 290 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: up um, including both export of cloudberry products and also 291 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: import of cloudberry pickers into Scandinavian countries. Um. Foreign berry 292 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: pickers were responsible for up to seventy percent of wild 293 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: berry sales in Finland as of eleven. Thousands of pieces 294 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: are issued every year, mostly to people from Thailand. Like 295 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: it's a serious enough business that the Thai government made 296 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: an exception in to its travel shutdowns early on in 297 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: the pandemic to allow workers to go to Scandinavia for 298 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: berry picking. Um. And there's been some controversy about like 299 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: hiring and payment practices. Um. Like most workers are coming 300 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: in for two to three months um a year as 301 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: salaried employees of finished companies that recruit them and help 302 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: them get their visa. But that might not be like 303 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: paying them appropriately or helping them secure adequate standards of 304 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: living while they're in the country. Um. Just for example, 305 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: like one of the tangles in Finland, selling berries that 306 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 1: you have foraged personally is tax exempt income, but because 307 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: these workers are salaried, they can be taxed, so like 308 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: maybe the company is taking that profit. So stuff like that. 309 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: And there seemed to be a lot of laws around 310 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Scandinavian countries kind of aaron teeing the right to forage 311 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: these berries, like they're just considered such a public trust 312 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: that it's like, yeah, no, go forge them, forge a way. 313 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: Um In there was an animated short film made in 314 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: Russia about a little girl who befriends the wolf that's 315 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: scaring all the villagers. Um. Old scary wolf. She befriends 316 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: him partially through sharing pancakes and cloud berries. I'm mean 317 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: that that's pretty solid strategy, right, Yeah. And speaking of 318 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: animated films, um, okay, I don't know whether cloud berries 319 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: are featured in the Frozen films. I have not watched them. 320 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: I cannot speak to them. Um, but the berries do 321 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: appear in Frozen related stories from Disney. There's apparently a 322 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: cloudberry festival every year in wherever Frozen is set. Um 323 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: not not Norway, not not Norway, fictional Norway, Norway. Yes, 324 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do immediately after this, I'm 325 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: going to look up the menu for the Disney restaurant 326 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: that's based on Frozen and see if there are cloud 327 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: berries there. Oh um um. Yeah. So that pretty much 328 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: brings us up to today. In the future, some researchers 329 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: are hoping to to to go ahead and domesticate the 330 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: cloud berry um so that we can get larger yields 331 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: of kind of sturdier fruit. Um. Although one expert in 332 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: in the field told NPRS The Salt back In that 333 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: that might be like at least a couple of decades off, 334 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: they did not sound like immediately hopeful. I'm of two 335 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: minds about that, because I'm like, I would love to 336 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: have more cloud berries or any cloud berries, but also 337 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool that it's kind of part of 338 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: the lore. That's like you have to go forged them 339 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: and see if you do find any. Yeah, yeah, I 340 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, who knows, who knows. I guess 341 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: decades from now, maybe we'll do a revisit. Yeah. Oh, 342 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: but then you know, like I don't know. Some sometimes 343 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: when you get like like I wouldn't want to get 344 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: like a disappointing cloud berry. You know when sometimes you 345 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: get like a disappointing strawberry and you're like, oh, that's 346 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: not my heart just clinched at the thought of that, Laura, 347 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: and I don't write, don't put that idea in my hand. 348 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: They're these beautiful things that is sounds cool enough to 349 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: be in frozen, Like, I don't need to be worried 350 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: about them tasting just me. Yeah, yeah, I know. Sometimes, 351 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in in making and making produce 352 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: sturdy enough to to survive into wider marketplaces, you do 353 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: lose some of that, some of that, I mean, obviously 354 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: you're losing the ephemera of being in a dog but 355 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I mean there's there's always trade offs, 356 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: that's tally speaking, so or there can be um. But yeah, 357 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious, you know. I wish these researchers the best, 358 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to see what they come up with. 359 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: I am as well. And I know when I was 360 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: doing my quick uh like make sure no news about 361 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: cloudberries is broken today before we go in, I did 362 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: see that cloudberry drinks are becoming more common in the 363 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: United States. So I don't know the interest, as you said, 364 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: has gone up. Ah, the future of the cloudberry just 365 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: as murky as it's past. But very excited to try 366 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: to try some, very very excited. Absolutely yes, And as 367 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 1: we said, listeners, if you've tried some, if you've found some, 368 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: if you have recipes with them, please let us know. 369 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: But in the meantime, listen like a cloud. Yeah. Sorry, 370 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,479 Speaker 1: I was trying to. I was like, what it went 371 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: to cloud, what's the cloud sound? And I had a 372 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: lot of different directions, but that's the way I went. 373 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I liked it. Well, that's what matters. 374 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: Lauren Megan wrote, I just finished listening to the Induction 375 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: Cooktop episode. I'm a physics professor, so when the listener 376 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: mails mentioning induction started rolling in, I meant to email 377 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: and offer my help explaining things if you needed it, 378 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: But as you might be able to guess, I'm a 379 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: little behind, so by the time I was drafting my email, 380 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: the induction episode was in my queue already. So now 381 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: this is almost an email to tell you that you 382 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: didn't need any help at all. Your explanations were almost 383 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: exactly how I teach my students about induction. I also 384 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 1: really liked the light bulb analogy to explain current and resistance. 385 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't normally include much on how those differ between 386 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: different materials in my classes for the sake of time, 387 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: but if I ever do it in the future, I'm 388 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: definitely stealing the analogy. You also did a really great 389 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: job describing a pharaoh magnetism. I normally describe it as 390 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: the Adams slash molecules and material all being tiny magnets 391 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: and insertain materials like iron. All the tiny magnets line 392 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: up so that the whole thing becomes magnetic, which is 393 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: due to the spin of the electrons. Just like you said, 394 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: if you haven't looked at demonstrations about induction. I definitely 395 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: recommend them, especially the jumping rings. It's one of my 396 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: favorites to do because it looks really cool and give 397 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: students a lot to discuss. It shows the whole connection 398 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: of how changing electric fields create magnetic fields and changing 399 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: magnetic fields create electric fields. So a little more than 400 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: you talked about on the show. Here's a link to 401 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: the video I show my students if I can't do 402 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: it in class. I don't actually have much experience with 403 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: induction cooking, though some of my friends who are also 404 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: physicist really like it, so I've been considering getting a 405 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: single burner to try it out. Oh that's thank you, nice, 406 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: thank you. It's a big concern for us. Oh, it 407 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: genuinely really very much. So is yes. Accuracy in this 408 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: entertainment podcast is something that we we really aspire to. 409 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Um so and and again this you know, we're just 410 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: like like I was an English major, like this is 411 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: not right. This. I I only have background in this 412 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: because I have been reading about stuff for the past 413 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: like ten years as my job, right, so it's when 414 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: we hear from people in the field that we are 415 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: talking about it is lovely and thank you very much. 416 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: Also this class. It sounds so cool right the class. Yeah, absolutely, 417 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: oh heck. And I'm yeah, I have not watched the 418 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: video yet. I'm totally going to do that right after 419 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: we stop recording. Um uh. And please, if anything that 420 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: I say ever works, feel free to to steal it. 421 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: It is yours, yours to take yours for the stealing. Um. 422 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: And also I would say right now about thirty worty 423 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: percent of all of our emails are about induction. So 424 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: I love this. I love this so much. Um. I 425 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: think it sounds like you should try the single burner 426 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 1: and report back. And also thanks to everybody who wrote 427 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: in about our question about magneto and Wolverine and ferro magnetism. Um. 428 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. Also extremely important to us. It is oh yeah, 429 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: heck yeah, um uh okay um not about not about wolverine. 430 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: Valerie wrote, Um, Annie, you've had problems cooking rice. I 431 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: recommend trying the pasta method for cooking rice. Instead of 432 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: one part rice and two parts water, you put one 433 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: part rice and about six times that much water in 434 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: a pot, cook it for the normal amount of time, 435 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: then drain it in a fine mesh strainer. The rice 436 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: much more reliably comes out. Great Consumer Reports says that 437 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: a lot of rice is high in arsenic and that 438 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: people like me who are gluten free tend to eat 439 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: enough rice that the arsenic raises our risk of cancer. 440 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: So they recommend rinsing rice and a fine meshed strainer 441 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: before cooking it, and then cooking it with the pasta method. 442 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: Both of these things helped to reduce the amount of 443 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: arsenic and the cooked rice. Good to know that is 444 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: good to know it is Oh, I'd never Weirdly, I 445 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: had just never thought about cooking rice like pasta. I 446 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 1: hadn't either, and then I was kind of flaw mixed 447 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: that I had it. But I've always been so concerned rice. 448 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: Always felt like you had to get it exactly right 449 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: with the water. Who knows what will happen. So this 450 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: is very good to know. Again, thanks to everybody who's 451 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: giving me all these rice tips, because I have a 452 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: lot of rice right now, because I have a lot 453 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: of nori right now. As I said, sort of a 454 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: cycle that I'm in, Um, I'm gonna try this to 455 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: put I'm gonna try this method and then I'll compare. 456 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: But also value rod in about induction and uh, because 457 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: this see that. My problem would be I don't have 458 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: an induction stove top, so I think boiling the six 459 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: times amount of water might take a minute. But I'll 460 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: figure it out. I'll figure it out. Yeah, I mean right, yeah, 461 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: I think you've got this. I have complete faith in 462 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: you to boil water. That's very kind. It's a leap 463 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: Laura and a leap of faith. 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