WEBVTT - Season 09 Episode 09: The Uninvited (Pt.2 of 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, it's Richard McClain smith here, host of Unexplained. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>to the second and final part of Unexplained, Season nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Episode nine, The Uninvited These days, most people know of

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<v Speaker 1>Lorraine and Ed Warrant because of the hugely successful horror

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<v Speaker 1>franchise The Conjuring and its numerous spinofs. In those movies,

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<v Speaker 1>the Warrens are portrayed as superheroes of Christ, a source

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<v Speaker 1>of impeccable and photogenic morality, pitched in a battle against

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<v Speaker 1>a demonic threat forever on the cusp of corrupting domestic America.

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<v Speaker 1>Their claims were always larger than life. Ed Warrant was

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<v Speaker 1>a self professed self taught demonologist, while Lorraine declared herself

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<v Speaker 1>a medium and clairvoyant. Together they founded the New England

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<v Speaker 1>Society for Psychic Research and claimed to have worked on

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<v Speaker 1>over ten thousand cases. It's a hard number to swallow,

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<v Speaker 1>and critics of the couple have pointed to fabrications and

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<v Speaker 1>possible fraudulents in the Warrens investigations over the years. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>the Warrens were present at many of the most high

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<v Speaker 1>profile supposed hauntings of the nineteen seventies and eighties, some

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<v Speaker 1>of which we've covered on this podcast. These include the

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<v Speaker 1>torment of the Poran family in Rhode Island, the focus

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<v Speaker 1>of Season four, episode fourteen, Negative Space, and the infamous

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<v Speaker 1>Enfield poltergeist, as detailed in Season six, episode four, The

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<v Speaker 1>Widening Gyre. They were also the first investigators on site

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<v Speaker 1>at one hundred and twelve Ocean Drive during the renowned

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<v Speaker 1>Amitaval Haunting a future episode. Perhaps in arguably, then, the

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<v Speaker 1>Warrens are key figures in the mid twentieth century fascination

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<v Speaker 1>with the paranormal and the diabolical. They almost single handedly

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<v Speaker 1>reorientated the culture to pose the home, and by extension,

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<v Speaker 1>the American family, as the front line of a war

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<v Speaker 1>between good and evil. Regardless of what we might think

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<v Speaker 1>about their motives or methods, few of their peers have

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<v Speaker 1>any doubt that the Warrens at least had complete and

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<v Speaker 1>genuine belief in their spiritual mission. So when they answered

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<v Speaker 1>a call on a cold morning in January nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 1>six to hear a distraught Janet smile begging for their help,

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<v Speaker 1>they felt compelled to answer. Thus began the next and

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<v Speaker 1>most terrifying chapter in the Extraordinary Haunting of an Average

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<v Speaker 1>American Family. In the months prior to the Warren's involvement,

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<v Speaker 1>life at three twenty eight to three thirty Chay Street

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<v Speaker 1>in West Pittston Pennsylvania had reached a very dark point

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<v Speaker 1>for the Smells after Janet's nighttime assault, when she was

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<v Speaker 1>supposedly pulled roughly from her bed by an invisible assailant.

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<v Speaker 1>Every one was living under a cloud of unseen threat.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and Janet were scared for themselves, but even more

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<v Speaker 1>so for their children. After six year old Shannon was

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<v Speaker 1>seemingly thrown down the stairs by something in the night,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no longer any doubt among the children that

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<v Speaker 1>something was deeply wrong in their home. The Smell's oldest Dawn,

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<v Speaker 1>along with her sisters Heather, Karen, and Shannon herself, had

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<v Speaker 1>each begun reporting strange disturbances in their bedrooms, fluttering rushing

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like the wings of an enormous bird beating in

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<v Speaker 1>the dark. As the family would later tell author Robert Curran,

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<v Speaker 1>who wrote the foremost book on the haunting, only prayer

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<v Speaker 1>had kept them calm during this period. Meanwhile, just a

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<v Speaker 1>wall away on the other side of the duplex, jack parents,

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<v Speaker 1>Mary and John also claimed to be suffering from some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of supernatural harassment. However, since they felt their experience

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<v Speaker 1>had been fairly minimal in comparison, they were more anxious

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<v Speaker 1>about how it was affecting their family next door. In

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<v Speaker 1>June nineteen eighty four, Janet was still fragile after the

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<v Speaker 1>strange event in her and Jack's bedroom, and now in

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<v Speaker 1>her mind at least, there was no doubt that some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of demonic entity was stalking their home. The one

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<v Speaker 1>constant the family's quiet source of comfort had been their

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<v Speaker 1>loyal German shepherd, Simon. Simon had always been gentle with

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<v Speaker 1>the children, as steady presence in a house that no

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<v Speaker 1>longer felt safe. One afternoon, Janet was alone with him

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<v Speaker 1>in the kitchen. She sat at the table, taking a

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<v Speaker 1>moment for herself, while Simon laid sprawled at her feet. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>without warning, the dog was wrenched violently into the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet later said it happened so suddenly she barely had

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<v Speaker 1>time to react. Simon was supposedly lifted off the floor

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<v Speaker 1>and held there suspend it as if caught in invisible hands.

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<v Speaker 1>A second later, he was hurled across the room, crashing

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<v Speaker 1>into the door frame with a sickening thud. Janet screamed

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<v Speaker 1>as Simon fell limply to the floor. He stayed there,

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<v Speaker 1>whimpering while Janet did her best to comfort him. The

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<v Speaker 1>next day, the pair were alone again in the kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>when out of nowhere, Simon began to yelp and cringe.

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<v Speaker 1>His legs began to shake and buckle. Then from out

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<v Speaker 1>of his mouth came a hideous wail of pain like

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<v Speaker 1>nothing that Janet had ever heard from him before. She

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<v Speaker 1>later said it was as though he were being invisibly

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<v Speaker 1>flayed right in front of her. Janet crouched down and

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<v Speaker 1>held him tenderly until the pain abated. Later that night,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet and Jack resolved to finally seek help. As head

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<v Speaker 1>of the local Catholic church, father Raymond Carsiak, had known

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<v Speaker 1>the family for years. When Janet and Jack reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to him for help, he was only too happy to assist.

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<v Speaker 1>Over dinner at the Smells Home, Carsiak listened with concern

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<v Speaker 1>as the family detailed the litany of unnerving events that

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<v Speaker 1>had taken place over the last few years. Carsiak didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to jump to any conclusions, but felt at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least that blessing the house might offer the family

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<v Speaker 1>some comfort. They should begin upstairs, he suggested, since so

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<v Speaker 1>much of the activity seemed to be focused on the bedrooms.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking the small black Bible that he always traveled with

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<v Speaker 1>out of his back, along with a small vial of

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<v Speaker 1>holy water. Father Carsiak asked Janet to lead the way

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<v Speaker 1>as they slowly made their way up the stairs and

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<v Speaker 1>stepped on to the landing. Father Carssiak at the sudden

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<v Speaker 1>sense that something in the air had shifted. As Janet

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<v Speaker 1>showed him toward her and Jack's bedroom. She couldn't help

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<v Speaker 1>but notice how the priest's brow had begun to sweat,

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<v Speaker 1>how nervous he seemed. Taking a spot at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the couple's bed, he called out into the air,

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<v Speaker 1>in the name of Jesus Christ. I asked that any

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<v Speaker 1>evil spirit or influence leave this home. May this dwelling

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<v Speaker 1>be filled with the peace and protection of God, the Father,

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<v Speaker 1>the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Then he shook the

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<v Speaker 1>vial of holy water and sprinkled it liberally around the room.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it went broom after room, until the whole

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<v Speaker 1>house had been treated. With each blessing. Father Carsiak became

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<v Speaker 1>more and more pale and nervous. By the time they

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<v Speaker 1>returned to the kitchen. He was sweating profusely and barely

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep upright. He slumped down at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack rushed around to help ease him into a chair

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<v Speaker 1>as Janet made up a fresh batch of coffee and

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<v Speaker 1>quickly brought him a cup. Mercifully, the father's strength steadily

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<v Speaker 1>returned as he sipped his drink. It was a great

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<v Speaker 1>relief to see him feeling better, but seeing what effect

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<v Speaker 1>the house had on him did little to ease the

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<v Speaker 1>family's increasingly troubled minds. Carsiak couldn't explain exactly what it

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<v Speaker 1>was that had set him off, but he hoped his

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<v Speaker 1>blessing would do the trick, and for a short time

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<v Speaker 1>it did, until it didn't. In the first few days

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<v Speaker 1>after Father Carsiak's visit, all appeared still in the Smiles Duplex. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>according to Jack's mother Mary, it was a few nights later,

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<v Speaker 1>alone in the house that she awoke suddenly in the night.

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<v Speaker 1>At first, she didn't notice anything strange in the dim light,

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<v Speaker 1>only the vague sense that the dynamics of the room

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<v Speaker 1>had somehow changed. Then she realized what it was. She

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<v Speaker 1>and her mattress were floating several feet in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>In terror, she quickly shuffled off it and carefully lowered

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<v Speaker 1>herself to the ground. Moments later, as she told it,

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<v Speaker 1>the mattress crashed down onto the bed frame. Meanwhile, next door,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet and Jack's home was once again pummeled with all

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<v Speaker 1>manner of bizarre occurrences, from creepy, inexplicable knockings to closet

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<v Speaker 1>doors being furiously whipped open and shut seemingly on their

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<v Speaker 1>own accord. In desperation, the family called Father Carsiak again.

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<v Speaker 1>He returned with his more senior colleague, Monsignor Francis Kane,

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<v Speaker 1>in the hope of lending further support and guidance. This

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<v Speaker 1>time he told the family flatly that he was also

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<v Speaker 1>now certain that a malignant entity was menacing them and

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<v Speaker 1>their home. He and Monsigneur Kine reiterated the original blessings,

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<v Speaker 1>and once again things appeared to quiet and down. Over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, the family sought refuge in the countryside at

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends, using their campavan to get away from it all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was during these times that the Smell's extraordinary claims

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<v Speaker 1>gained the most credibility, because, as many neighbours are said

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<v Speaker 1>to have attested, the apparent haunting didn't stop when the

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<v Speaker 1>house was supposedly empty. Though no one saw anything untoward,

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<v Speaker 1>it was said that horrific screams were frequently heard emanating

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<v Speaker 1>from inside the property despite no one being inside. On

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<v Speaker 1>one occasion, the screams were so intense residents called the police,

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<v Speaker 1>concerned that someone was being murdered inside the Smell's home,

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<v Speaker 1>but when police arrived to investigate, they found nobody there

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<v Speaker 1>and no sign of a disturbance. Before long, the news

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<v Speaker 1>spread throughout the neighborhood that something very disturbing was occurring

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<v Speaker 1>at three twenty eight and three point thirty Jay Street.

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<v Speaker 1>For the most part, the community rallied around the family.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how you find out who your friends are,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack explained, and though there were a few people who

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<v Speaker 1>wanted us to move, the neighbors talked to us and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to come to some sort of peace with it. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a neighbour who finally offered a lifeline. Carla

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<v Speaker 1>Davis was a friend of Janet's who lived locally and

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<v Speaker 1>was well aware of the family's situation. She and Janet

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<v Speaker 1>had been friends for a long time, and more crucially,

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<v Speaker 1>she believed Janet when she told her about everything that

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<v Speaker 1>had been going on. It was Carla who informed Janet

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<v Speaker 1>about an article she'd read regarding a pair of psychic

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<v Speaker 1>researchers Lorraine and Ed Warren, who specialized in what the

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<v Speaker 1>article described as demonic infestation. The article concerned an apparent

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<v Speaker 1>haunting at West Point Military Academy that the Warrens had

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<v Speaker 1>been investigating. Perhaps Carla thought since they'd worked with the

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<v Speaker 1>US military, they might be credible enough for Janet to

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<v Speaker 1>get in touch with them. At first, however, Janet was skeptical.

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<v Speaker 1>She and Jack had always considered occultists to be at

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<v Speaker 1>best misguided and at worst out and out Charlatan's. But

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<v Speaker 1>they were also desperate, so she gave them a call.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a dark, overcast day when the Warrens pulled

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Smells duplex on Chay Street, accompanied by

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<v Speaker 1>Rosemary Freutsch, a regular member of their team. Thunder rumbled

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<v Speaker 1>overhead as Ed regarded the property with unease. He sensed

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<v Speaker 1>a sinister energy even from inside the car. However, both

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<v Speaker 1>the Rain and Rosemary, who Ed considered more attuned than him,

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<v Speaker 1>felt little as they got out and made their way

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<v Speaker 1>to the front door. After being welcomed warmly by Janet

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack, the three of them were invited to take

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<v Speaker 1>a seat in the kitchen as the Smells filled them

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<v Speaker 1>in on everything. Then the Warrens asked them some quick questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Had they engaged in any kind of ritual in the

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<v Speaker 1>house or played with a wigi aboard perhaps? Janet and

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<v Speaker 1>Jack looked to each other and shook their heads. The

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<v Speaker 1>Warrens then asked if anyone in the property had been

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<v Speaker 1>reading books on witchcraft and satanism. Janet was confused. Both

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<v Speaker 1>she and Jack had read widely on the topic since

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<v Speaker 1>the strange occurrences had been gone. But why would that matter,

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<v Speaker 1>she asked. Ed explained solemnly that in the past they'd

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<v Speaker 1>helped people who they believed had unwittingly drawn demonic attention

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<v Speaker 1>to themselves precisely because they downed too deep into the literature.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet was horrified had they made things even worse for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves and their family. Jack reached for Janet's hand and

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<v Speaker 1>gave it a squeeze. He promised that everything would be okay. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>as ed continued the interview, Lorraine and Rosemary went upstairs

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<v Speaker 1>to explore. When they returned, Janet could see the unmistakable

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<v Speaker 1>look of concern on Lorraine's face. What is it? She asked?

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<v Speaker 1>There are four spirits in your home, replied Lorraine without pause.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, said Janet, leaning into Jack as Lorraine went

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<v Speaker 1>on to explain. One of them was an old and

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<v Speaker 1>senile woman. She wasn't violent, just confused, she assured them,

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a younger woman. This spirit was potentially dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, insane and violent, but according to Lorraine, probably

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<v Speaker 1>placatable by prayer. The third spirit, she continued, was much

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<v Speaker 1>harder to discern. All she could tell was that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a man with a mustache and blonde hair who

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<v Speaker 1>was enveloped in sorrow. The fourth was something else, According

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<v Speaker 1>to Ed's account of this conversation in Robert Curran's book,

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<v Speaker 1>the Smiles looked at them with weary understanding. You think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a demon, don't you, yes, replied Lorraine, sternly, A dangerous,

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<v Speaker 1>malicious one that was hell bent on causing the family harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Smell felt an angry frustration rising up inside him.

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<v Speaker 1>Like most people who fell victim to random, nefarious incidents,

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<v Speaker 1>he just needed to understand why why was this happening

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<v Speaker 1>to them, an ordinary, faithful American family. Ed explained that,

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<v Speaker 1>in his opinion, the demon had likely been present at

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<v Speaker 1>Chay Street for a long time, lying dormant. Such things

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<v Speaker 1>tended to latch onto turbulence or emotional energy, he believed,

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<v Speaker 1>especially that of children going through puberty. As if all

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't disturbing enough, he also suggested that, in all likelihood,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet and Jack's oldest daughters, Dawn and Heather, may well

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<v Speaker 1>have been the catalyst. With the warrant's assessment over, they

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<v Speaker 1>proceeded to perform a number of experiments and interventions in

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<v Speaker 1>the Smell home. They sprinkled holy water and said prayers.

0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:02.879
<v Speaker 1>They played liturgic music loudly into each corner of the home.

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<v Speaker 1>They set up infrared cameras in Jack and Janet's bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>and ran tape recorders to trace any visual or voice phenomena.

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<v Speaker 1>But these interventions only seemed to provoke the entity further.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the coming days and weeks, the Smiles were apparently

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<v Speaker 1>beset by more supernatural events than ever before. Those random

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<v Speaker 1>knocking sounds that had been occurring throughout the house now

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<v Speaker 1>became deep, pounding thuds that seemed to shake the very

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<v Speaker 1>foundations of the building. The family also claimed to be

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly woken from sleep by what they took to be

0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:46.600
<v Speaker 1>invisible fingers pouring at their faces. On one occasion, Janet

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<v Speaker 1>also claimed to have woken suddenly with the unmistakable sensation

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.600
<v Speaker 1>that she'd just been slapped across the face. Another time,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack was woken in terror by the sound of his

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<v Speaker 1>wife flashing about in bed beside her him unable to

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<v Speaker 1>calm her down, he could only watch in horror as

0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:08.240
<v Speaker 1>she appeared to wrestle with an invisible assailant. When it

0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:12.440
<v Speaker 1>was finally over, he switched on the bedside lamp and gasped.

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<v Speaker 1>Her skin was covered in inexplicable red marks. By mid

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<v Speaker 1>February in nineteen eighty six, the Warrens agreed it was

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<v Speaker 1>time to bring their wider team to bear on the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Charles Cravitas, a nurse, was the most skeptical of the group.

0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:34.080
<v Speaker 1>After arriving at the Smells home, he took the family

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<v Speaker 1>aside and explained his position to them. Having assisted on

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<v Speaker 1>numerous cases with the warrants more often than not, he

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<v Speaker 1>found that most supposed hauntings were in fact just the

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<v Speaker 1>result of overactive imaginations or psychological distress. Having heard everything

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<v Speaker 1>about the Smell's case so far, he wasn't shy in

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<v Speaker 1>letting them know that, despite what the Warrens had told them,

0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.960
<v Speaker 1>he was almost certain that there was no paranormal phenomena

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<v Speaker 1>occurring in the property. Charles spent twenty four hours at

0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:11.280
<v Speaker 1>three twenty eight Chase Street, mostly rushing from room to room,

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<v Speaker 1>trying desperately to capture the host of bizarre sounds that

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<v Speaker 1>seemed to emanate from the property's walls. Draws rattled and rustled,

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<v Speaker 1>and on several occasions the lights went out entirely, periods

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<v Speaker 1>of darkness in which loud, strange, tearing noises could be

0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.760
<v Speaker 1>heard from inside the walls. It was an experience, he

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<v Speaker 1>later said, that went far beyond anything he'd previously encountered

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<v Speaker 1>in all his years of working with the Warrants. Another

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<v Speaker 1>member of the warrants team, Al Vogel, was tasked with

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<v Speaker 1>videoing anything untoward that happened in the Smile's home. One time,

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<v Speaker 1>while following Jack around the house with a video camera,

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<v Speaker 1>Owl later claimed he suddenly felt an electric charge fill

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the room that made his teeth and sinuses tingle. A

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<v Speaker 1>second later, it felt a rough grip on his shoulders

0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.000
<v Speaker 1>that jerked him back and forth. Later, when the Warrens

0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:22.440
<v Speaker 1>reviewed recordings taken from inside the property, it's claimed they

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<v Speaker 1>saw footage of a mirror that seemed to bend and

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.800
<v Speaker 1>flex within its frame. In another segment, it was said

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<v Speaker 1>the couple noticed something peculiar about a TV set in

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<v Speaker 1>the background. On its screen, despite the power being off,

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:42.600
<v Speaker 1>an image of a human figure appeared. The Smiles were

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to wonder if they'd ever be rid of the

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>supposed demonic menace, and the worst was still yet to come.

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<v Speaker 1>One morning, Charles Cravitas was in the kitchen when he

0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:59.480
<v Speaker 1>heard Jack scream out from upstairs. Moments later, he came

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<v Speaker 1>rushing down down the stairs, still soaking wet, having come

0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>straight from the shower. Cravitas quickly grabbed a camera and

0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.840
<v Speaker 1>began taking photos of Jack's earlobe that seemed to have

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:15.760
<v Speaker 1>become suddenly inflamed. As Jack explained, he just stepped into

0:22:15.800 --> 0:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>the shower when he felt something prickle on his skin,

0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:22.120
<v Speaker 1>as though he'd just been stung by a bee. As

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<v Speaker 1>he looked about for any sign of the culprit, he

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<v Speaker 1>felt something clamp down on his earlobe. As Cravitas took

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<v Speaker 1>the pictures, he reeled back in amazement. A third mark

0:22:34.160 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 1>had just appeared on Jack's skin that looked for all

0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the world like the markings of teeth. For Lorraine, it

0:22:41.960 --> 0:22:45.440
<v Speaker 1>was all in keeping with their initial assessment. The demon

0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>wanted to hurt them, and its presence in the material

0:22:48.720 --> 0:22:53.280
<v Speaker 1>world was getting stronger. By this point. She claimed to

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<v Speaker 1>have already seen it herself, the very same thing that

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<v Speaker 1>both Janet and her mother in law Mary had also

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<v Speaker 1>so apparently seen. Lorraine described it as a hunched figure that,

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:10.080
<v Speaker 1>although it rarely stood upright, was immensely powerful, both psychically

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and physically. In June, during a rare lull in the chaos,

0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the Smiles took the opportunity to enjoy a quiet dinner together,

0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 1>followed by a movie. Later that night, they all retired

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<v Speaker 1>to bed a little calmer than usual, except for Janet,

0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:29.639
<v Speaker 1>who decided to sleep on the couch due to the

0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:33.879
<v Speaker 1>hot weather. As he later told it to author Robert Curran,

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<v Speaker 1>Jack knew something was wrong the moment he woke up.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't know what had roused him, but from the

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<v Speaker 1>moment he opened his eyes he was instantly alert on

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the verge of panic. There was a figure standing by

0:23:48.680 --> 0:24:02.080
<v Speaker 1>his bed. As Jack's eyes adjusted in the dark, he

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<v Speaker 1>took the figure to be a woman, almost albino like,

0:24:06.440 --> 0:24:12.159
<v Speaker 1>with pale white skin mixed with reptilian scales. Jack recoiled

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>at the sight of her body, which seemed to be

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.199
<v Speaker 1>covered in rupture wounds. Running with puss, the figure that

0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>he described as looking about sixty to seventy years old,

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>leered over him, opening its mouth to reveal a set

0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>of gums gone putrescent with sores. The woman creature, or

0:24:32.520 --> 0:24:36.359
<v Speaker 1>whatever it was, jumped forward, pinning the naked Jack to

0:24:36.440 --> 0:24:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the bed, then proceeded to mount him. Jack could only

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:45.560
<v Speaker 1>lie transfixed as the apparent succubus arched violently back and

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:50.959
<v Speaker 1>forth above him until appearing to climax. Jack later claimed

0:24:51.000 --> 0:24:55.280
<v Speaker 1>he felt no pleasure during the whole encounter, only a bright,

0:24:55.520 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>complete panic, and then it vanished as suddenly as it

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>had appeared. After a quick shower to wash himself, Jack

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:08.360
<v Speaker 1>raced downstairs to tell Janet, but before he could explain

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>what had happened, they were joined by their seventeen year

0:25:11.280 --> 0:25:15.919
<v Speaker 1>old daughter, Dawn, who looked deeply troubled. She couldn't sleep,

0:25:16.000 --> 0:25:19.440
<v Speaker 1>she said, after having a terrible dream, but she didn't

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:23.200
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about it. According to Janet and Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>after some gentle cajoling from them, she finally divulged what

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.520
<v Speaker 1>it was. She had found herself standing in the doorway

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to her parents' bedroom, forced to watch as some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hideous monster with saws all over its skin had

0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>sex with her father. Devastated by the apparent assault, Janet

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 1>knew they had to try something even more drastic. For

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<v Speaker 1>a good year, The family had tried repeatedly to convince

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<v Speaker 1>the local diocese to take their haunting seriously, without success.

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<v Speaker 1>This time, the phone was picked up by a friendly

0:26:01.440 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>voice who introduced himself as Father O'Leary. Having gone over

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:09.960
<v Speaker 1>everything again for what seemed like the millionth time, to

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Janet's great relief, Father O'Leary was keen to help. More

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.000
<v Speaker 1>than that. He criticized the church for its reticence to

0:26:18.040 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 1>get involved in what was clearly a very serious matter.

0:26:21.800 --> 0:26:24.840
<v Speaker 1>He even offered to go directly to the chancellor of

0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the diocese to plead the case on the family's behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be a problem, he told Janet, call me tomorrow, dear.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, Janet called for O'Leary again, but this

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<v Speaker 1>time someone else answered the phone. This person was confused

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 1>by her request to speak to a Father O'Leary, because

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<v Speaker 1>no one by that name had ever worked in the

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<v Speaker 1>diocese office in the second half of nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 1>Believing they too had to do more, the Warrens brought

0:27:02.440 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in a priest named Father Robert McKenna, who worked in

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 1>the Diocese of Monroe, Connecticut, close to where the Warrens lived.

0:27:11.280 --> 0:27:15.120
<v Speaker 1>McKenna was a fifty nine year old staunch traditionalist who

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.560
<v Speaker 1>held to the older rights of exorcism. He claimed to

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.840
<v Speaker 1>have officiated over fifty of them, but worryingly admitted that

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>only twenty had been successful. On his first visit to

0:27:27.040 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the house, he was apparently greeted with a number of

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>bizarre occurrencies, from the usual cupboard doors rattling and slamming shut,

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 1>to a noxious odor that seemed to hang in every

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 1>room while he was there, everyone present also heard the

0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>sound of a young child screaming coming from some unreachable

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.680
<v Speaker 1>place high up in the property. Though the visit did

0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>seem to dampen things somewhat, McKenna was disheartened that he

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been able to fully cleanse the house. To that end,

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>he returned a few weeks later, where he felt he'd

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 1>done enough to finally banish the apparent demonic entity. After

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>a cautiously celebratory dinner with the family, he drove away,

0:28:12.560 --> 0:28:16.359
<v Speaker 1>leaving the Smiles with hopeful optimism, but it took less

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 1>than six hours for the farrau to begin again. That night,

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Jack and Janet's mattress were said to have shaken so

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>violently they were thrown to the floor, all while that infernal,

0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:34.080
<v Speaker 1>ceaseless banging reverberated through the walls. At some point in

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the next few months, Jack claimed that he woke one

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>night to find a pair of female figures standing in

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:45.280
<v Speaker 1>their bedroom, one younger and one older, conforming to Lorraine

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Warren's description of the two female spirits. Another time, he

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>was staring at his face in the bathroom mirror when

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>he apparently morphed into the decomposing face of a much

0:28:56.760 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>older man. Meanwhile, Janet continued to be tormented by shakes

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>and slaps, waking her up in the middle of the night,

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and throughout it all, the pounding in the walls refused

0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 1>to let up. It was so incessant the family began

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>to worry that it might drive them all mad. Then

0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:20.560
<v Speaker 1>one day, Janet received a panicked call from the twenty

0:29:20.600 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>three year old daughter of one of the Smells close

0:29:23.240 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 1>its friends, on the street. Janet was horrified to hear

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>how the young woman's radio kept switching itself on at

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 1>top volume, and the locks in her house began to

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>open and close on their own accord. Then, another neighbor,

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<v Speaker 1>Maureen Cows, is said to have phoned the Smells home

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>one afternoon, not knowing that they were on a vacation

0:29:44.320 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>at the time. Her call was apparently answered by what

0:29:48.400 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>sounded like a young girl, who responded to Maureen's questions

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 1>with a strange laughter and told her that the Smells

0:29:55.960 --> 0:30:00.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't live there anymore. All in all, Janet sam that

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>six different neighbors complained of inexplicable incidents in their own homes,

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 1>much to the family's alarm. The haunting, it seemed, was

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:20.840
<v Speaker 1>spreading like the Smells. The Warrens also tried their hardest

0:30:20.880 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 1>to gain permission from the Scranton Diocese to conduct an

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>official exorcism in the house, but the diocese refused the request,

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and so in October Father McKenna came back to try

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>and finish the job he'd started back in June. That night,

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 1>along with McKenna, the Smiles were joined in their home

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>by the Warrants and a number of friends in the

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that together they might finally banish the demonic entity

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>from the property. After candles were lit throughout both apartments

0:30:53.320 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of the duplex, everyone gathered in Janet and Jack's apartment

0:30:57.080 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to pray, while at the same time, Father McKenna proceeded

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>solemnly from room to room with Bible and holy water

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 1>in hand, blessing each space and demanding the entity begone.

0:31:10.840 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 1>In previous attempts, he'd only concentrated on Janet and Jack's apartment.

0:31:15.920 --> 0:31:19.400
<v Speaker 1>This time, he left no stone unturned and blessed each

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>nook and cranny of both apartments. He even blessed the backyard.

0:31:24.760 --> 0:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>When he finally left, it was with a shared sense

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 1>of exultation. Father McKenna, the Warrens, and most importantly, the

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Smiles had the intense feeling that something had changed. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>later described how in that moment, the scent of roses

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<v Speaker 1>flooded the home, seemingly banishing for good the foul odour

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<v Speaker 1>that had become an ever present since the father's last visit.

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<v Speaker 1>On October twenty eighth, the Smiles released a statement to

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<v Speaker 1>the press, who had been following the story closely, eagerly

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<v Speaker 1>waiting each update. Jack announced that for several weeks all

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<v Speaker 1>has been quiet in our home, and it would appear

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<v Speaker 1>that our problem has been resolved. Thanksgiving was more meaningful

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<v Speaker 1>that year than any that the Smells had ever celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>at Chay Street. They had a lot to be thankful for.

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<v Speaker 1>For the first time in nearly fourteen years, they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to enjoy their time together in their home without

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<v Speaker 1>fear or suspicion. It was mid December nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 1>when Jack awoke from a light doze in his armchair.

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<v Speaker 1>He turned off the TV and looked happily over at

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<v Speaker 1>the soft glow of the lights on the Christmas tree,

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<v Speaker 1>and froze in horror. In the mirror opposite, As he

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<v Speaker 1>later described it, he saw that familiar dark shape standing

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<v Speaker 1>behind his chair, the same hunched posture, the same billowing cape.

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<v Speaker 1>It appeared to be beckoning him, he said. By now

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<v Speaker 1>a veritable expert on demonic activity, Jack knew all the

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<v Speaker 1>theories about how the process moved in stages, first infestation,

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<v Speaker 1>then oppression, then finally possession, and now it was here

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<v Speaker 1>for him. Jack watched in stunned silence as the figure

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<v Speaker 1>glided closer, still beckoning as fast as he could, he

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<v Speaker 1>bolted from his chair and ran for the stairs. After

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<v Speaker 1>reaching the top landing, he looked back in horror to

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<v Speaker 1>see the figure staring up at him from the bottom step.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it took one step up, and then another. Jack

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<v Speaker 1>grabbed the rosary from his pocket, which he now always

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<v Speaker 1>kept with him, then closed his eyes and repeated the

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<v Speaker 1>prayer that he'd been tort by Father McKenna and the warrants.

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<v Speaker 1>When he gathered the courage to open his eyes again,

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<v Speaker 1>the figure was gone. He didn't tell Janet or the

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<v Speaker 1>girls what had happened. He didn't want to puncture their

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<v Speaker 1>new found hope. Instead, as he lay that night, sleepless

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<v Speaker 1>and silent beside his wife, he decided enough was enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was that inhabited three twenty eight to three

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<v Speaker 1>point thirty Chase Street, it had won, It had stamped

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<v Speaker 1>its claim to ownership. If it wouldn't leave, they would

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<v Speaker 1>have to. In January nineteen eighty seven, the small family

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<v Speaker 1>put their house up for sale. They asked the press

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<v Speaker 1>to leave them alone to regather the threads of their lives,

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<v Speaker 1>but tales persisted for years. Some said that the haunting

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<v Speaker 1>followed the family to the Pennsylvania suburbs. There a story

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<v Speaker 1>that Janet saw spectral black masses in the basement of

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<v Speaker 1>their new home, and that they were only truly freed

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<v Speaker 1>once the church agreed to conduct a secretive final exorcism

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<v Speaker 1>for them. But none of this is verified or traceable

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<v Speaker 1>beyond the supernatural rumor mill endlessly turning on Reddit and

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<v Speaker 1>ghost hunting websites. What is known is that three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight to three thirty Jay Street was purchased by a

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<v Speaker 1>rental landlord named Richard Bridle. He claimed that the property

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<v Speaker 1>was almost impossible to rent out due to the history

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<v Speaker 1>attached to it. Later that same year, a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah Owens bravely moved in. She lived there for twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and in two thousand and eight told the local West

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<v Speaker 1>Pitston newspaper, The Times Leader, that she never encountered anything supernatural.

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<v Speaker 1>Janet's Smile still lives in the West Pittston area with

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<v Speaker 1>her youngest daughter, Carrien. Today, Karen offers her services as

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<v Speaker 1>a paranormal consultant. Jack Smell, who sadly died in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen at the age of seventy five, never once changed

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<v Speaker 1>his account regarding everything that had apparently happened to him

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<v Speaker 1>and his family during those strange, unsettling years on Chay Street.

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<v Speaker 1>The true depth and grain of that shadow will remain

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<v Speaker 1>forever Unexplained. This episode was written by Neil McRobert and

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