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Speaker 1: Thousands They said you would come Dropping Dropping Gem. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Dropping Gem's podcast. I'm your host, Deevie Brown. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,

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Speaker 1: welcome back, Welcome for the first time, all of the things.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the show. So on this show

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Speaker 1: spiritual journey because that that's such a privilege. To be

429
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Speaker 1: able to be on one is such a privilege. And

430
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Speaker 1: then they said, you know, um, if I didn't have,

431
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Speaker 1: you know, a life that was that challenging and whatever

432
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Speaker 1: this pain hierarchy I think they had in their minds was,

433
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Speaker 1: you know, should I be on a spiritual journey? And

434
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Speaker 1: it's like, well, this is this is our birthright, Like

435
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: this in my mind, this is the entire point of

436
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: human existence. It is the remembrance of your soul and

437
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Speaker 1: of yourself in that connection to divine source. And there

438
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Speaker 1: is no you know, everybody's tent is their tent. Yeah, right,

439
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: so it's yeah, some trauma, some trauma is is so

440
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: significant that it's often even unspeakable inn you know, but

441
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: each of us has whatever our maximum of what we've

442
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Speaker 1: experienced is. And the pain is the same, the hurt,

443
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: the lostness, the isolation is the same. What I'm hoping

444
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: changes over the next few years is the same way

445
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: that we see the importance of like going out in

446
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: the streets, protesting, like literally moving together as human beings

447
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: to create a better world. We need to bring that

448
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: same type of energy into our like individual and group

449
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: healing sessions, because you have to understand that this work,

450
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: like they're totally mutually supportive. Like if if if more

451
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: of us are able to heal ourselves, then more of

452
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: us are going to have the courage to go out

453
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Speaker 1: in the streets and the courage to speak up and

454
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Speaker 1: be like Okay, like you know, we need to do

455
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Speaker 1: something about racism, we need to do something about patriarchy,

456
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: we need to do something about like global poverty. There

457
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Speaker 1: there are ways that we can support humanity in much

458
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Speaker 1: deeper ways. But the way to be able to get

459
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that courage to activate it is by going deeper and

460
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: doing your own personal work and doing your own healing work.

461
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: Because where do you think the compassion comes from the

462
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Speaker 1: Compassion that you're going to have for other people comes

463
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Speaker 1: from you understanding yourself better, because then you're going to

464
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: see the patterns that I'm working with, the struggle that

465
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Speaker 1: I'm having in my mind, someone else is having it too.

466
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Speaker 1: And if you're able to build more self love and yourself,

467
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna make you so much less likely to

468
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Speaker 1: harm other people. So the value of inner work, I

469
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: think it can definitely be seen from some perspectives. It's like, oh,

470
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Speaker 1: you know, you need to have some degree of of

471
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Speaker 1: life stability to be able to do it. But so

472
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: let's let's heal society so that everyone can have that

473
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Speaker 1: stability so they can do our work because we need it,

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Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Yeah, And the work is also what

475
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Speaker 1: informs the stability. You know. I think at whatever area

476
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Speaker 1: you're able to begin, it's enough and it's perfect for

477
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: wherever you're at, and it's that slow build upon and

478
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: eventually you find yourself with this really vast foundation that

479
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: feels so unshakable and so unmovable, and then you build

480
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Speaker 1: higher from there. But it really starts with the roots.

481
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Speaker 1: How can we start planting our roots? Can we start

482
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Speaker 1: stretching them down into that Earth's crust, letting the tree

483
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Speaker 1: you rise in the sky. So your your second book

484
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Speaker 1: comes out April seven. It's available order right now though,

485
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Speaker 1: so you guys don't miss the chance to just have

486
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Speaker 1: it blissfully arrive at your doorstep. Don't think about it,

487
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Speaker 1: pre order it today. Um. Clarity and Connection, The new

488
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: book focuses on having clarity of mind to help, but

489
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: more deeply connect with others, which I think speaks so

490
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: powerfully to everything that you've just shared. Human connection is

491
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: now probably more important than ever understatement, Um, what messages

492
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Speaker 1: with this book, diego? What are you hoping to share

493
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Speaker 1: with the world with these messages of clarity and connection? Yeah,

494
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: thank you for that that very clear question. I am

495
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Speaker 1: what I'm hoping to really do with this book is

496
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: like tie in the fact that once you really get

497
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Speaker 1: serious about your personal transformation, one of the immediate benefits

498
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Speaker 1: of that is that you're going to be able to

499
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Speaker 1: connect with others deeply and in particular, like I try

500
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: to hone in on friendships and like intimate relationships and

501
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: show how you know, of course, like you're the two

502
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: of you are not perfect, and but there is this

503
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: possibility for a deeper connection if you both take your

504
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Speaker 1: inner work seriously and trying to show that they're are

505
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: just so many different ways that we can have better communication,

506
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: that we can develop voluntary commitments so that we can

507
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: support each other, and that in all around we can

508
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: support each other in the ups and downs. Um. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's funny because I think the book is set

510
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Speaker 1: up so that whether you're in a relationship or not,

511
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: you'll find a lot of value in it. And it's

512
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: really just it's for anybody who's going through a personal

513
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: transformation journey and through that you know you're going to

514
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: be able to find that your connections would just get

515
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: so much more profound if you're able to just know

516
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: yourself and love yourself better. I love that so much.

517
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Speaker 1: My God, is that true? How you know you were?

518
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: It's really so beautiful when you speak to you and

519
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: your wife both being on this journey and the fact

520
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: that you already had this harmony with one another and

521
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: this deep love with each other, and then you started

522
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: really a completely different, whole new life together. Even now

523
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: you know you shared in your background, you guys are

524
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: now kind of more in the wilderness. You know, you

525
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: left city life during the pandemic. That's something we talked

526
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: about on our Instagram lives, and you know you're really

527
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: connecting with nature right now. What, like, what does that

528
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Speaker 1: look and feel like? Like that? I I don't know

529
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: what that experience is like. I think a lot of

530
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Speaker 1: us probably don't, you know, But it's so beautiful to

531
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Speaker 1: know that that is available to us. I think a

532
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Speaker 1: lot of people assume that when they choose themselves or

533
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Speaker 1: when they go on a journey of self, it means

534
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Speaker 1: they have to leave everyone and everything behind. And for

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00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think they think it means

536
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Speaker 1: they may even have to leave their relationship, the romantic relationship.

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Speaker 1: How what are the changes that you've seen, Like, what

538
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Speaker 1: are some of the new things you enjoy about your

539
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: dynamic both being on this beautiful journey. I think, um,

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Speaker 1: you know one thing I definitely want to put out

541
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Speaker 1: there was that my like my wife and I we've

542
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Speaker 1: been together for a long time, and we got together

543
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Speaker 1: when she was eighteen and I was nineteen, um, while

544
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: we were in college. But our relationship was pretty chaotic

545
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: up until we started meditating. And we started meditating when

546
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Speaker 1: like I, I did my first course when I was

547
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Speaker 1: twenty four and she did her first course when she

548
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: was twenty three. Um. So it was like we were

549
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: barely hanging in there. Um. But over time, as we

550
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: kept like digging deeper into the practice, getting established in

551
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: the practice, bringing the practice home so that we were

552
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: meditating daily, what we saw was this like renaissance in

553
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Speaker 1: our relationship, you know, because the connection was always there,

554
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: The connection was was always strong, but were we ready

555
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: to build what did we have? Emotional maturity? Now, we

556
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: didn't have any of those things. Um. So once we

557
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: started meditating and we started even building these like small

558
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: degrees of self awareness, it allowed for such a release

559
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 1: of tension in our relationship because we weren't always blaming

560
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: each other anymore because oftentimes we don't realize how quickly,

561
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: you'll you know, you'll wake up or something will happen

562
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: at work, and then you have this tension, and then

563
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: you want to fuel that tension even more by blaming

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00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: someone else for something that they had nothing to do with. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's so easy to just constantly be on this

566
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Speaker 1: mode of survival and projection where it's like it's your fault,

567
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: it's your fault, you you need to change, you need

568
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,760
Speaker 1: to change. But it's like, no, I need to change,

569
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Speaker 1: like my like my perception is causing me the most harm,

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00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: my perception and my reactions. So if I'm able to

571
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: deal with them and then you're also simultaneously dealing with yours,

572
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: then whenever we do have disagreements or any type of conflict,

573
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to deal with it in such

574
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: a calmer way, in a much more honest way, where

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, this is what I can do for us,

576
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: and now what can you do for us? And how

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00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: can we find a proper middle ground so that we

578
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: can move forward? But um, but it took a long

579
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: time to get to this place where you know, we

580
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: have a harmony that we're both adding to by just

581
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: like continuing building our own individual personal harmonies. Oh I

582
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: love that. That's really, really, really really beautiful. There's a

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Speaker 1: quote of yours that I'm going to share right now

584
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,720
Speaker 1: that I love so much that I think really speaks

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Speaker 1: to this, and it's love will not seek to change you.

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00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: It will embrace you so unconditionally that you will feel

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00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: safe enough to heal the old and put effort into

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Speaker 1: the new. M Can you say that in your voice?

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Speaker 1: Can remember your quoting? I gotta say that one more

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Speaker 1: time for everyone, just wherever you are, as long as

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Speaker 1: you're not driving, take a moment. I want you to

592
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: gently close your eyes, and I want you to let

593
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 1: these words really wrap themselves around your heart. Love will

594
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: not seek to change you. It will embrace you so

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00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: unconditionally that you will feel safe enough to heal the

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00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: old and put effort into the new. Wow, I'm so

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you connect with that one so much, because, um,

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Speaker 1: I really like put my foot down on that quote,

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Speaker 1: and um my editor was thinking about changing that one

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Speaker 1: a little bit and it was going to turn out

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Speaker 1: a little differently, but I was like, nah, I was like,

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Speaker 1: we gotta just let's just give it to it. Let's

603
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: just put it out there raw the way it came out. UM.

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00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: So I'm glad you're connecting with that one how And

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Speaker 1: I know this will really fall under acceptance, but I

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00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: would love any reflections that you have towards this, UM

607
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: for our listeners. How do you encourage the people that

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: you love to grow without having this strong connection to

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00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: the ways in which you want them to change? Oh? Yeah,

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: the strong attachments because connect action feeds, but attachment takes.

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00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: UM and yeah, and I think, UM, it's you know,

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00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: you really just have one option. And loud Suit pointed

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00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: this out thousands of years ago. UM, but all you

614
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: can really do is change yourself and model your behavior

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00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: and then others will hopefully follow suit, you know. UM,

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00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: And I found that. I think there have been different

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00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: moments in our relationship, just between my wife and I

618
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: were you know, we both like modeled patients for each

619
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: other because I like, UM. For example, I started meditating

620
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: two hours a day before she did, and she wasn't

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Speaker 1: ready to And I wasn't like, oh, you have to

622
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: do this with me, nothing like that. You know, that's

623
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Speaker 1: something that just comes on your own time. But I kept,

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00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: I kept like, you know, I stuck to what I

625
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and I didn't no matter what. And

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00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: then after like nine months, she was like, oh, like,

627
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: you know, I want to do this too. Um I

628
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: I see the value in it. And similarly, um she

629
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: was done, like she was done smoking um weed before

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Speaker 1: I was. And I remember I was like, I wanted

631
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Speaker 1: to give it up, but it was just I was

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00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: a little slower, you know, I was. I was a

633
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 1: little slower with it, and and she was so patient

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00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: with me. You know, she didn't look down on me,

635
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: she wasn't judging me. She let me do my thing.

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00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: And then like a few months passed and I was like, oh,

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00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I have enough mental strength now

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00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: to just let it go because and it's nothing. You know,

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00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: people people do whatever they want. But like for me personally,

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00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: I felt that it was it was just weighing me down.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't serving me the way it was serving me before. UM.

642
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Speaker 1: But being able to like, you know, have that patience

643
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Speaker 1: for her and then her have that patience for me,

644
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Speaker 1: it just it made u a It made a world

645
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Speaker 1: of a difference for the both of us and just

646
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: like allowed us to have our own space to grow

647
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: at different speeds because That's one thing that I tried

648
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: to write about in the book too, is like recognize

649
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: that you know, you're not going to grow at the

650
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: same rate, like especially because even though we may be

651
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: so close or even with your friends, like you may

652
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: be such a strong unit, but the conditioning that each

653
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: of you have is incredibly unique. So even the tools

654
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: that you may use to heal yourselves, they're not necessarily

655
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: going to be the same because to eat, you know,

656
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: each person is carrying a very unique emotional history, and

657
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: that emotional history needs very careful tending. Mm hmm. I

658
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: love the way you just started that that history needs

659
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: very careful tending. I love even you know, something I

660
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: try strive to really encourage a lot is like deepening

661
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: our emotional language. And how just how gorgeous that is

662
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: for each of us, in and our freedom and our

663
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: personal liberation, and in our ability to extend compassion to others.

664
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Speaker 1: And so I especially love your usage of tending because

665
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: I think of my practice for me as me really

666
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: tending to myself, like really, you know, treating myself with

667
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: a certain amount. What I hear in that word of

668
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: tending to there really is a certain amount of care,

669
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Speaker 1: this certain amount of sacredness and holiness to that this

670
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Speaker 1: like softness but constant um not pressure, but this softness

671
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: yet constant action towards I love it too, because it's

672
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: kind of like tending a garden, and that, you know,

673
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons why, Like, I'm such

674
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Speaker 1: a city boy, and um, I grew up in Boston

675
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: and then I just spent seven years in New York

676
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: and so from one city to another. But I always

677
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: in the back of mind, I was like, I need

678
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: to spend some time in nature because I've never done

679
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: that before. Um. But one of the big draws was

680
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: like being able to have a big garden. Um, so

681
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm super pumped for the summer to just be spending

682
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: so much time tending the garden inside and out. I

683
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: love that my son and I started a garden in

684
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: the pandemic and we just brought in our hall of tomatoes,

685
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: and yesterday our strawberries came in. And it felt so

686
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: rewarding to have like my dirty soil cover holding these juicy,

687
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: juicy strawberries that were like a color of red I'd

688
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: never seen in a store. And it's just it filled

689
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: me with joy, just overflowed me. With joy. I love

690
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: it so much too, you know. Just going on the

691
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: topic of gardening, like I've been thinking so much about

692
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: slow productivity and like just really bringing that into my

693
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: work life, even though it's so hard and I have

694
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: to like push back on people, um who just like

695
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, they want things to be so quick, so fast,

696
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: more and more and more now now now, um, And

697
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: I realized, like I can't live my life like that,

698
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: you know, I actually need to be way more intentional

699
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: and be really you know, choose carefully the projects that

700
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to fully commit to so that I can

701
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 1: give them my all and I can do my best

702
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: with them as opposed to like spreading myself thin and

703
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 1: you know, just following like a hyper like capitalistic mode

704
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: of like I'm just going to produce as much as possible.

705
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 1: And but that slow productivity of like you know, when

706
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: you're tending a garden, like you're not the seeds take

707
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: time to bloom, Like it just takes time and each

708
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: seed requires different types of care and then the reward

709
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: is immense. It's beautiful. But I'm trying to bring that

710
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: same type of like that's slow, intentional, powerful movement into

711
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: my personal work mm hmm. I love that. I feel

712
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: like I've been sitting in that that moment for myself

713
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: right now too, and exploring how to make really the thoughtful,

714
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: mindful pace that I experienced my life with, how to

715
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: also let my work be led by that pace and

716
00:42:54,160 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: have beautiful, bountiful boundaries that support that gets real? Have you,

717
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, have you recognized how much we like in

718
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: our work. We're almost we're like imitating machines, were like

719
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: pretending to be machines, and we're not like, you know,

720
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: I can only send so many emails in one day

721
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: or I can't you know, to expect like immediate responses

722
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: from each other. It's like wow, like people are going

723
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: through different things, Like you have no idea what hardships

724
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: are going to and if anything, we should be cutting

725
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: each other some slack because like life is hard and

726
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: life is complicated and it's incredibly complex. So things just

727
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: slowing down a little bit, it's incredibly beneficial. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

728
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Speaker 1: you know, I want to I want to ask you this,

729
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Speaker 1: um and I know that this it's really kind of

730
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: a loaded question because there's always more to know, there's

731
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: always more pieces of ourselves to access and deepen in.

732
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: But how did you know that you had to ride

733
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: at yourself? How did you know that you had come

734
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: home into yourself? What was that reflection or when did

735
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: that kind of start to settle in where you could

736
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: look back and really say, wow, look who I've become,

737
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: or book what I look at where I softened, look

738
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: at what I let going. Um it's funny because I

739
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: was literally just thinking about that yesterday, because I when

740
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: when I think of that question, to me, it's like

741
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: how did I get on the right path? Right? Because Um,

742
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,240
Speaker 1: I've been thinking a lot about how like time and motion,

743
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: like change, it's something that just continues just plowing forward.

744
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: It just moves forward. Um. So oftentimes we get caught

745
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: up in this idea of healing ourselves and like that

746
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: we're trying to go back to this original state and

747
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: go back to the time before the trauma, before the hurt.

748
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: But I've been recognizing that at best, it's a memory

749
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: of how we were before. But even when we cleanse

750
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: ourselves and heal ourselves of all these heavy patterns or

751
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, this heavy weight that we've been carrying in

752
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: our minds, the person that we become during and after

753
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: the healing is totally new. It's some so I'm always

754
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: thinking like okay, but I feel that newness and I

755
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: feel that like you know, I'm moving in a better

756
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: direction and the right direction. But like when did I

757
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: get on this path? When did I accept it? When

758
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: did I feel that feeling of home? And I think

759
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: it was at some point in like twenty I would say,

760
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: like twenty sixteen, um, like four like four or five

761
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: years after like the real healing journey began where I

762
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 1: kind of settled in and recognized like, hey, like this

763
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 1: meditation technique that I've been putting a lot of time into,

764
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: it's giving me massive rewards and I have so much

765
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: more to learn from it and so much are to

766
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: gain from just like continuing. And and it's funny too

767
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: because like more of the people that I met through

768
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: um vipassana and like, like I just found them all

769
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: so incredibly inspiring, and I was like, I know the people,

770
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 1: like they feel like my friends, you know, like or

771
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: they could have been like siblings and past lives or

772
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for such a long time, and

773
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: it felt so special to start recognizing that like this

774
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: was for me and this is my path and and

775
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: it's funny, you know, like I'm always, um, I'm grateful

776
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: that I have this path, but I know there's so

777
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: many valuable paths out there. And that's one of the

778
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: wonderful things about Instagram, Like even you know you don't

779
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: you And I like, you're getting so much value from

780
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: the ways that you meditate, the techniques that you pursue.

781
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 1: And I love that, like brother sisterhood of that where

782
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: you can heal yourself in a lot of different ways

783
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 1: and the healing is real and we should be supportive

784
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: of that. But finding your own home, um, it's such

785
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: a special journey. But I think I really found that

786
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: with gas technique. I think it just it just hit

787
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: home and I gained so much from it that I

788
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: would be foolish to stop. Yeah yeah, yeah, once you've

789
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,879
Speaker 1: tasted it. It's really like there's just no anything less

790
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: is not an option, you know, Like uh, like I

791
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: was thinking of I saw this name on Instagram that

792
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: was silly, but it really made me laugh. It was like,

793
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: I would never allow someone else to treat me regular

794
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't even treat And I was thinking about like

795
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: the way that I treat myself, and I'm like wow,

796
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: like I really treat myself well, like I give myself.

797
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I treat myself as an offering to God, as a

798
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: as a you know. Um. But you know, I think

799
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: my moment of coming into that it clicked for me

800
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: that every moment I felt like enough. I think for me,

801
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 1: that was like my big moment where I said I

802
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: am home. Not not to say or infer that there's

803
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: not more places to go and new areas to reach

804
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: within myself, but I realized that I was fully in purpose,

805
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: in flow, and home within my own body when everything

806
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: just felt like enough. There was no longing in any

807
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: moment for anything other than what was there and available.

808
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: You know, I find that so incredibly inspiring because one

809
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: thing that has dawned on me so clearly is like

810
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: one of the biggest points of tension in the mind

811
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: is that we're constantly wanting more so to be able

812
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 1: to have the experience of oh, this is enough, Like

813
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: that's that's not only really beautiful, but like that's that's safety.

814
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, you're actually like you're you've been able

815
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: to make your mind into a haven, and that's really important.

816
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 1: M Thank you, thank you, thank you for that. Even

817
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: in the little moments, right, Like I think about things

818
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,280
Speaker 1: that used to irritate me, like, um, you know sometimes

819
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: you're stuck waiting on something, there's nothing to do, and

820
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: like now I'm like, oh, this is the opportunity to

821
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: close my eyes. Yeah for sure, for sure I get

822
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: excited about. Yeah. I love meditating in line. Yeah, oh

823
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: my god. Like every time I'm like, oh, let me

824
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: close my eyes, or oh let me listen for ambient sound,

825
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: what animals are near me? Or what what are the

826
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: smaller textures that I can connect to? And yeah, even

827
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: right now talking to you and sharing that out loud

828
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: and feeling really delighted by that, like and being like

829
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: that's enough to me, that moment in the line that

830
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: feels so good. And I think it's such a good

831
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: practice because like, I mean, what what do a lot

832
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: of you know, different techniques do. They just bring you

833
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: back to the present moment, so you're not just jumping

834
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: around in the future, you know, like hating and avoiding

835
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: or feeling tense about the past, and it's just you know,

836
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do in either of those? See? Nothing,

837
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: You're just you're just you know, swimming and narratives in

838
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,799
Speaker 1: your mind so come back to the present moment where

839
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Speaker 1: you can fully live your life. Mm hmm. Received your

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Speaker 1: popular and just profound Instagram page Young Pueblo and you

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Speaker 1: know Diego. Before we get out of the show, I

845
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: invite every guest to offer some soul work to the

846
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: audience at the end of the episode. And so that

847
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Speaker 1: can look like a journal prompt or maybe a reflection

848
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: to savor throughout the day, or any kind of negative

849
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: wisdom of something that has aided you. What would that

850
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: soul work be from you? One thing that I'm trying

851
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: to often do it. So there's two things. One is

852
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: like how can I more gently move about in life? Um,

853
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: being able to move through this medium of gentleness is

854
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: like my own personal work, Like that's what I'm here

855
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: to do. It is like, how how gently can I

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Speaker 1: if in the past hour something difficult to happen to you.

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Speaker 1: So let me just move through these different situations that

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Speaker 1: the other one is like, in terms of the people

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Speaker 1: who are closest to us in most close proximity, UM,

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Speaker 1: check with yourself if you're loving them in a way

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Speaker 1: that supports their freedom. And because it's attachments are so sneaky,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes we we think we know what's best for them,

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Speaker 1: but oftentimes it's because we want them to be like us. Um.

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Speaker 1: So it's just really important to check and see, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's fine if they make different choices from you. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to live their lives the way you want

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Speaker 1: them to live in or the way that you have

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Speaker 1: getting closer to being unconditional because real love supports freedom. Wow. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that was um mm hmm m m. Yeah. Everyone, Please

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Speaker 1: breathe in to that. Please breathe into that. That was gorgeous. Um.

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Speaker 1: And I hope everyone really spends sometimes with both of

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Speaker 1: those beautiful thoughts with yourself. And you can rewind this

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Speaker 1: spend time with that. That was beautiful. Diego Young Pueblo.

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Speaker 1: It is always a truly deep honor to speak with you,

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Speaker 1: and I leave feeling full and expanded and grateful. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for your presence, thank you for your words, thank

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Speaker 1: you for your graciousness, thank you for your love for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, my friend. This has been such

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Speaker 1: an honor, and every time that we come together, it's

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Speaker 1: just it feels like we're making magic calling into existence.

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Speaker 1: We are going to be on somebody's stage somewhere in

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Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, when it's nice and safely open, I'm

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Speaker 1: for it. Yeah for sure. But thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: This has been such a joy, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: bringing such um newness. Like I always appreciate, you know,

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Speaker 1: doing podcasts, but it's always super nice one. It's just

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Speaker 1: like it just flows into this like intricate, unique beauty

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Speaker 1: all right, everybody. Wow, rewind this a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Please send it to a friend again. I've really been

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Speaker 1: sitting in this, but I mean it with my whole heart.

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Speaker 1: We don't know where other people are on their journey,

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Speaker 1: so don't assume that this episode will not bless someone

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Speaker 1: else that you know in your life. Don't think too

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