1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into a Week eighteen Giants Hangout, brought to you 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: by Crestron. 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: My name is Madelenburg. 4 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Joined us always by Russ Salzburg, Matt Sintak and the 5 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion Jonathan Casillas. The last game of the 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: season on deck for the Giants, but they're coming off 7 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: a win, and not just a win, a win in 8 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: which one Dale Robinson got to one thousand yards receiving. Matt, 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: I know we talked about this, you know, last week, 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: earlier in the week. He was excited about that stat 11 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: going into the game. But what does it mean for 12 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: him to have that accomplishment? 13 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, Wandell has been the most reliable 14 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 3: option in the passing game all season. I mean, once 15 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: Malik Neighbors was lost all the way back in Week four, 16 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: Wandell was expected to really step up and become that 17 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 3: number one target, and he's done that. He's had the 18 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 3: best season of his young NFL career. You know, he 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 3: topped the one thousand yard mark for the first time, 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 3: which he talked about how it really meant a lot 21 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: to him. 22 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 4: He is one reception shy of tying his career high. 23 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: With one more game left, He's. 24 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Just been really you know, I know, a contract year 25 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 3: for him, and it tends to I sentivized players a 26 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: little bit more, but he's really stepped up and just 27 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: been a reliable target for whoever it is at quarterback. 28 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 3: He's caught passes from all three quarterbacks this season, hasn't 29 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: really skipped a beat no matter who was undersat ter. 30 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 4: So he's really done a great job. 31 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, and Jackson Dart too, especially coming into that one 32 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: getting the win. His performance really felt like we saw 33 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: what we saw from Dart earlier on this season. Russ, 34 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: what did you make from what we saw from Dart 35 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: as well as the run game in this one? 36 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you, Madeline, I thought what we got 37 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 5: from Jackson was what I expected. You know, there was 38 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 5: thought because of that last game against the Vikings, always 39 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 5: regressing what's wrong? 40 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 6: Did the Giants still have confidence? 41 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 5: Which I thought was the most ridiculous narrative that I 42 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 5: have ever heard. Jackson Dart is the quarterback today for 43 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 5: the Giants, He's the quarterback tomorrow, He's the quarter quarterback 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 5: for the Giants on Sunday, and for many many years 45 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 5: to come, he is their leader. He did exactly what 46 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 5: he was supposed to do. He went into Las Vegas. 47 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 5: He led his Giants to beat a team that they 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 5: were better than. And what you're supposed to do in 49 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 5: the NFL is beat teams that you're better than. JC 50 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 5: knows that. So he did that. And to me, what 51 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 5: the best part of the week was after the game. 52 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 5: If I would suggest this to any Giants fans, if 53 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 5: you hadn't seen it yet, go see the locker room 54 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 5: celebration after the game. The joy from everybody in that 55 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 5: locker room play is Kafka Dart everybody. I mean it was. 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 5: Nobody could speak to it better than JC. It's the 57 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 5: joy of competing. That's what professional athletes do. They compete. 58 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 5: The Giants have been competing all season with bad results. 59 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 5: Finally they got the results that they wanted. So I 60 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 5: thought Jackson and the rest of the team was great, 61 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 5: a great. 62 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: Win, and they got the joy out there and Mike Kafka, 63 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: as you mentioned two, got his first win as head coach. 64 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Lots of game balls going around in the locker room 65 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: to celebrate that great performance by the offense, but also 66 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: with the defense, you know, getting pressure on the quarterback 67 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: in three sacks on the day, getting two turnovers because 68 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: he's We've seen how much of a point of emphasis 69 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: that has been all season. But the Giants in recent 70 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: weeks under Charlie Bullen have been getting takeaways. 71 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you know, and that's the stat that the 72 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 6: Giants have struggled with the last few years. You know. 73 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 6: Bobby Ocarake, you know, came with a huge interception two 74 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 6: years ago. Bobbio Karake was a turnover machine and this 75 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 6: defense was a well oiled machine moving around. Dexter was 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 6: doing this thing and it kind of had semblance of that, 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 6: you know. And at the end of the day, the 78 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 6: Giants haven't looked like the Giants we thought they were 79 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 6: going to be, Oh who we thought they established over 80 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 6: these last few years, especially some of their players like 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: Dexah Lawrence. Dexall Lawrence the last few weeks has been 82 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 6: playing some good football. Statistically, he might not be showing 83 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 6: up with those numbers, but he's impacting the game that 84 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 6: I don't think he was doing in the first half. 85 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 6: Duke Carter has emerged, Darius Alexander has emerged, and Brian 86 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 6: Burns keeps up his streak. He has two more sacks 87 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 6: to add. What incredible season that he's having with the 88 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 6: up and downs of every player throughout the year. He's 89 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: the guy that has been the bell Kow defensively for 90 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 6: the Giants. The defensive backs play solid. This defense looked 91 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 6: different the other day. Guys. I'm sorry, I get in 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 6: Las Vegas. They were flying around, they were hitting guys, 93 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 6: they were in the backfield, they were disruptive, and of 94 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 6: course they created takeaways. We would have saw this defense 95 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 6: throughout the year. We'll be having a whole other conversation 96 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 6: going into Week eighteen about what the Giants would be 97 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: slated for in the playoffs because a defensive performance like that. Yeah, 98 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 6: it was against the Raiders where the Raiders throwing the game, 99 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 6: who knows. But when you have a team that you're 100 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 6: better than, like you said earlier, you gotta beat that team, Russ, 101 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. You gotta go out there 102 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 6: and beat them. That's what it's all about. Teams that 103 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 6: it's in front of you. If you are considered, if 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 6: you're considered a better team, go take care of business. 105 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 6: And the Giants did that. In fact a this past Sunday. 106 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 6: I was very pleased with the performance. 107 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: Well, and it's like you look at the records. Right, 108 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: the Giants have beat two teams with an above five 109 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: hundred record. The New England Patriots, who are on their 110 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 1: way to the playoffs, have only been one team with 111 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: an above five hundred records. So it's not about oh, well, 112 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: this team's good, this team's not good. It doesn't really 113 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 1: count because they weren't trying. 114 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Whatever. 115 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: A win's a win, and I think you go in 116 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: day in and day out to prepare for the game 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 1: on Sundays. 118 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: You want to get a win. 119 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: And the Giants did just that in week seventeen, and 120 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: now they got another opportunity to do so against a 121 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: division opponent and the Cowboys to finish off the season. 122 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: Now both of these teams are out of the playoffs, 123 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: but both of these teams are still preparing to play 124 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: a game in the NFC East. For us, when you 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: look at you know how this defense is going to 126 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: have to slow down the Cowboys receivers. 127 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: First of all, what's the key here? 128 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 5: Well, I think to continue with the pressure. You know, 129 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: we actually just started the hangout and we haven't met 130 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 5: should Brian Burns yet? What can we You can't say 131 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 5: enough about Brian Burns. 132 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: Because he did but not all of us are listening 133 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: to everything. 134 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 5: No, but you know what I mean, and what's Abdul Carter. 135 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: You know, I can't say enough the way he's responded, 136 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: and Carter, to his credit, has responded in a big 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: time way. Carter's playing like his hairs. 138 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 6: Are on fire. And that's what we need to see. 139 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,119 Speaker 1: Just that's what you want to see from a young 140 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: player coming out here trying to make a name for himself. 141 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen him tweeting out about how 142 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: how badly he wants that Rookie of the Year award 143 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: and wants that recognition for his play. And he's been 144 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: showing up in a different way and is preparing a 145 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: different way in recent weeks. But Matt, when you look 146 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: at the the offensive side of the ball for this 147 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Giants team going against the Cowboys, what we've seen from 148 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: Jackson Darton, the way that he has run this offense 149 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: so efficiently, How how what is the key for him 150 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: and the offensive side of the ball against Cowboys defense? 151 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 3: Before I get into before I get into Jackson Dart, 152 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: I just real quick on Abdua Carter because you mentioned 153 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: his tweets about asking for you know, wanting defensive Rookie 154 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: of the Year. If he had played all season like 155 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: he has the last month, he would have ran away 156 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 3: with the Yeah. 157 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: No question many he has been unbelievable. 158 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: Since that benching the first quarter against the Patriots, he's contributed. 159 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: He's at at least a half sack in the last 160 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: four games. 161 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: But not to mention, he's just. 162 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: Getting after the quarterback play in and play out. Next 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: Gen stats put this out after the game on Sunday. 164 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: Quick pressures under two point five seconds getting to the quarterback. 165 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 3: Aubdul Carter leads the NFL all players. He is number 166 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: one in the NFL and that's that. He has been 167 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 3: wreaking happick this last month. So I just want to 168 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: give him his props. I don't know if i'd quite 169 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 3: say he deserves Defensive Rookie of the Year because there 170 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 3: was a two month stretch where he, you know, didn't 171 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,679 Speaker 3: really do a whole lot to contribute to the defense. 172 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: But the way he's played the last month, he sure 173 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: looks like a defensive Rookie of the Year. Now onto 174 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: Jackson you mentioned earlier. I apologize I forgot who mentioned it, 175 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 3: but two weeks ago that Vikings matchup was his worst 176 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: game of his young career, no doubt about it. He 177 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: admitted to it, But that a lot of it goes 178 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: towards Brian Flores and his defensive scheme. He is one 179 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: of the best defensive play calls in the NFL. 180 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: You just have to tell what was asked of Jackson 181 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: in that game too. 182 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: They were running the game the ball so much, they 183 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: weren't asking They weren't asking. 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: Him to do a lot. 185 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: He didn't even attempt his first pass until a couple 186 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: of minutes into the second quarter. He didn't complete his 187 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 3: first pass till right before halftime, So there clearly was 188 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: a game plan for that game to attack on the ground. 189 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 3: This last week we saw they let Jackson, you know, 190 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 3: play his game a little bit more and he looked 191 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: like the normal Jackson that we've grown accustomed to seeing. 192 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: This week against the Cowboys defense, Their defense, i'm gonna say, 193 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: is a lot more towards the Raiders end of the 194 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 3: spectrum than the Vikings end of the spectrum. There should 195 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: be another good opportunity for Jackson to take advantage of 196 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: a let's just say below average defense, and you know 197 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: a great opportunity for him to close the season strong. 198 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: I like it, and you know you want to close 199 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: the strong with a win, shutting down the Cowboys receivers 200 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: and pressuring the quarterback. Do you think, Casius, the Giants 201 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: can get pressure on Dak Prescott. 202 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 6: I think so. And look, Dak is playing extremely well. 203 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 6: I don't even know. I heard some whispers that he 204 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 6: might not play this week. I don't know. But if 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 6: he plays, Dak Prescott is one of the most efficient 206 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the league. This team averages almost not almost 207 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 6: over four hundred yards a game on offense. Last week 208 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 6: against the Commanders, they ran eighty seven plays, five hundred 209 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 6: yards total offense, two hundred yards on the ground. This offense, 210 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 6: don't even look at the defense. The defense is horrible. 211 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 6: This offense is a top ear offense in the NFL 212 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: with two of the top tier wide receivers. The defense 213 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 6: have to come to play. They have to create pressure 214 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: against this team. And I think for you to get pressure, 215 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 6: you have to do well on first and second down. 216 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 6: And that's where the Giants have struggled. They struggled on 217 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 6: first and second down against the run. This Cowboys team, Yeah, 218 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,839 Speaker 6: they like to throw the ball to their pretty wide receivers, 219 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 6: but they're running team. They like to be physical, they 220 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 6: like to establish the run. And if the Giants could 221 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 6: do a good job on first and second down and 222 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 6: then get them into third and manageable for the defense, 223 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 6: they can get them off the field. Get the pressure, 224 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 6: get out, dude, Carter, Brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence, Darius Alexander 225 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 6: on Dak's back, because if not, this team can easily 226 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 6: score thirty points. And like you said, Matt, defensively, they 227 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 6: can easily give up thirty points. So the Giants have 228 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 6: to figure out a way to slow them down offensively 229 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 6: and do what everybody has done the Dallas this year 230 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: on offensive. 231 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: Score some points, just real quick. Brian Schottneimer on Monday 232 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 4: did say that Dak is playing. 233 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: Okay, good good, Yeah, so Dak is in. 234 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the idea of, you know, wanting 235 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: to keep your players healthy, but it's the last game 236 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: of the season. 237 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: Let them play. 238 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, you never you never know, all right, Giants, 239 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: cow was a lot of history there as we are 240 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: well aware, big division rivalry happening here. 241 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 2: But Russ, what do you know? What do you say? 242 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: What do we got for trivia this week? 243 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 5: What do you know? What do you say, Well, Madeline, 244 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 5: as you know, we've been down this road many times 245 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 5: with the Giants and a Cowboys. It's quite their rivalry. Well, 246 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 5: the season, folks, was two thousand and nine, their last 247 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: game actually in Giants Stadium, the last season in Giants Stadium, 248 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 5: Week thirteen, Giants took care of the Cowboys by the 249 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 5: score of thirty one to twenty four. Giants in that 250 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: game scored four touchdowns, two by one player. 251 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 6: All right? 252 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 5: Who scored those touchdowns? And by the way, I'll give 253 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 5: you a little hit, one was by a special. 254 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 6: Teamer, Dominic Hickson. 255 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 5: You know what, sometimes you really do impress me. Jacon 256 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 5: right out of the gate, who was a favorite of 257 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 5: mine when he was They're really good, dude, Dominic Kickson. 258 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: All right, yep, that Brandon Jacobs. 259 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: Okay, hold on a second, Dominic. By the way, it 260 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 5: was a seventy nine. 261 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 6: Yard punt return. 262 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 5: Now, Matt Young, you said, Brandon Jacobs, all right, so 263 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 5: tell me more, Steve Smith, No, Brandon Jacobs. 264 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Was that Victor Cruz? 265 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 6: Was he Cruis that year? 266 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 267 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: Brandon Jacobs, Yes, Brandon Jacobs, Brandon Jacobs, yes, But how did. 268 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 4: He do it? I'm assuming rushing, running. 269 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 5: The ball, and receiving. 270 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 6: So he's had a. 271 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 5: One yard run and a seventy four yard reception. How 272 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 5: about that. 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 6: Brandon Jacobs with a seventy four yard reception. That is scary, 274 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: scary that big man run at seventy four yards. 275 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: Down Robinson on Monday Night Football this week. 276 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 5: Like what I'm assuming. I'm assuming that was a catcher 277 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 5: and run jac Man. 278 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 6: Listen, that big man running seventy four yards just gave 279 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 6: me chills. 280 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 5: That's I used to love when he would catch a 281 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: ball like coming out of the flat, like kind of 282 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 5: with a head start, and it was like a runaway 283 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 5: train out of control. 284 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 6: He ain't running out of bounce. 285 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: No, no running out of bounce. That's the camp's kataboo mentality. 286 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: Let me look through you. 287 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 6: I don't want to. 288 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 5: I'm not dodging nobody if you're standing there. 289 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 6: Duck. 290 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Well I got a bonus for you here. 291 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 5: In that game, there was a force fumble by the Giants, 292 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 5: also recovered by the Giants. Real simple. Who forced it 293 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 5: and who recovered it? 294 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 6: Oh? See forced the I'm going to see. 295 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 5: I'm on your she recovered she recovered it. 296 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 6: JPP forced it. No, No, Jpp wasn't in the league 297 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 6: yetting not. 298 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 4: He got drafted the next year. 299 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, the next year, yep, Justin Tuck. 300 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 7: Nope, Matthias, very good, good one side, Jack. 301 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 5: Matthias, yep, very interesting, very interesting. 302 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 6: Well, good job, guys. 303 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: That was I was impressed. I mean Hickson right out 304 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 5: of the gate, Jason. 305 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 6: Right after su. 306 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: Tou see his noseball. 307 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, listen, we've got New Year's Eve this week. 308 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: You know, we've got the Giants Cowboys, the last game 309 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty five season, but the first game 310 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty six calendar year. So as we 311 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: turned the page to a new year, a lot of 312 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: us may be given up up things or you know, 313 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: having New Year's resolutions. But if we already give the 314 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Giants a new Year's resolution for next year, Matt, what 315 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: is your new Year's resolution for these New York Football Giants? 316 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: Ooh, for me, it's it's pretty easy. 317 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 3: Something jumped into my mind right away, and that is, 318 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six, the New York Giants, please stop 319 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: the run. 320 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 4: When you're on defense. 321 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: Don't let the opposing team run for one hundred and 322 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: fifty plus yards every game because it's just backbreaking. You know, 323 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: we have this tremendous defensive line that does not get 324 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: to just pin their years back and get after the 325 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: quarterback because. 326 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 4: The other team is just running the ball constantly. 327 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 3: So for twenty twenty six, the new Year's resolution for 328 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: the Giants is to stop the run. 329 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: All right, Russ, what about you? What's your new Year's resolution? 330 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 3: Man? 331 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: You gotta know you can guess what I'm going to say. 332 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 5: Give me sixty minutes of football each and every week, 333 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: because if they would have done that this season, their 334 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: record would be quite a bit different than you know, 335 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 5: I was just doing something before we got on. Okay, 336 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: they beat the Chargers eleven of five. They beat the 337 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 5: Eagles that that team is also eleven of five. They 338 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 5: lost to the Broncos. They're thirteen and three. They had 339 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 5: them going into the fourth quarter. They had the Lions, 340 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: they had the Bears, they had the Packers. I mean, 341 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: it's sixty minutes of football. I don't want to sound 342 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 5: like a broken record, but that's what they need to do. 343 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 5: They need there's no letting up. Just play sixty minutes 344 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: of hard nosed football. And I think if they did that, 345 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 5: they would do also that would help do as what 346 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 5: Matt said, stop the run. 347 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 6: There you go. 348 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: See what's your new Year's resolution. 349 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 6: So I got like, almost like a mantra almost that 350 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 6: I want to, you know, spit at the Giants. It 351 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 6: goes something like this, play together, play encourage, play fearless, 352 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 6: play violet. You played courage because you know what you're doing. 353 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 6: You play fielders because hesitation gets you beat. You play 354 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 6: together because this is family. You play violent because this 355 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 6: is football. 356 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,879 Speaker 2: I like it. I like it honestly. 357 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: That feels like something out of Friday Night Lights right there, 358 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: and I'm here for. 359 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: You. 360 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 5: JC was a poet for crying out loud. 361 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 6: That's it. I was coming up with some like some 362 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 6: some some sayings of football, and then I kept on 363 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 6: going to play violent. And I'm like, maybe I'll list 364 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 6: that last. Maybe I'll list that last. But the last 365 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 6: part of that, for me is the most important. Being physical. 366 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 6: You talk about the rushing yards that the Giants give up. 367 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 6: When I think about being physical, I think about being violent. 368 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: I think about stopping the run on defense, right and 369 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 6: then again running the ball on offense. If the Giants 370 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 6: can have that mentality on some real stuff, it doesn't 371 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: matter to scores. Next year, the games will look and 372 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 6: feel differently. They may not score as much, but they 373 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 6: won't give up as much. If you played with the 374 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 6: mindset on every play, I'm telling you it will work 375 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 6: out for you because this game is the people that 376 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: have success are the violent smart people. Those are the 377 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 6: people that have success in his lead, people that play 378 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 6: physical football and that are smart. And the Giants have 379 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 6: been at this year. They haven't been as physical as 380 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 6: they're supposed to be, and they haven't been as smart 381 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 6: as smart as they need it to be, especially situationally. 382 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, listen at midnight on New Year's you've oftentimes, 383 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, you raise a glass, you toast and you 384 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, find somebody you love or whatever. But when 385 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: you're toasting to the new year, my toast for this 386 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: Giants team is to your health, because we want to 387 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: see a healthy Giants team in twenty twenty six. Injuries 388 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: were a huge part of the storyline of this team, 389 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: not just Kim Skataboo, not just Molie Neighbors. 390 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: Mike McFadden was a. 391 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Huge blow to the Giants defense early on in the 392 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: season when he went down and when these key players 393 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: are going to be returning to the team next year 394 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: healthy in the beginning of the season. 395 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 2: I want to keep it that way. 396 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: I would like to see a healthy Giants roster through 397 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, and so that is what I will 398 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: be raising in glass too and giving a New Year's 399 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: toast for this Giants team. But before twenty twenty six, 400 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: we got to turn the page a week eighteen, we 401 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: got this Giants Cowboys game, and we got to wrap 402 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: up our show with a little over under to send 403 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: our hangout listeners with the farewell. So we'll start with 404 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: some takeaways, right, how much Ghenner I s are the 405 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys going to be in this one over under? One 406 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: half a takeaway? Sidetech? 407 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 2: What do you think I'm. 408 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 6: Going to go over? 409 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: I think the Giants can get one takeaway. I know 410 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 3: the takeaways have been sort of lacking throughout the season, 411 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: but I think the momentum from last week will carry over. 412 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: The Cowboys offensive line Dak got sacked. I believe it 413 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 3: was six times last week by the Commanders, and the 414 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: Giants defensive front I think is a little bit better 415 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: than the Commanders with. 416 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: The way Brian Burns is playing. Abdu Carter not to 417 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 4: mention dexter L. 418 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: Lawrence is still looking for his first full sack of 419 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 3: the season. I think this takeaway will come in a 420 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: strip sack of Dak Prescott. 421 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Salzburg over under half a takeaway. 422 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 5: One takeaway, you know what, I'm optimistic. I'm gonna go 423 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 5: with the over. I think they'll get a takeaway, whether 424 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 5: it's a pick fumble, whatever, I think they'll get a takeaway. 425 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,880 Speaker 6: Chasey, Yeah, Dallas. Dak doesn't really give up the ball 426 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 6: that much, but he does get sacked a lot, especially 427 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: the last four or five games. I think he was 428 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 6: sacked like fourteen to fifteen times the last five games. 429 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 6: But I do think the Giants created takeaway because the 430 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 6: Giants have been trending that way. Their defense have been 431 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 6: playing a lot better and look like guys are playing 432 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 6: with their hair on fire and they're flying around them 433 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 6: and creating plays, and guys are running from the line 434 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 6: of scrimmage to wherever that ball is caught or ran. 435 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 6: And I like that. I like what I've been seeing 436 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 6: with that, and it will you will create takeaways that. 437 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: What in bunches, right, we see them all the time, 438 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: and I would imagine that with this heater that the 439 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: Giants Stevens has been on, they be able to get 440 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 1: one out of the Cowboys this week. And you talk 441 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: about the pressure getting on the quarterback. Yes, Dak Prescott 442 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: gets sacked quite a bit, but can Abdul Carter and 443 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 1: Brian Burns combine for over or under two and a 444 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: half sacks? 445 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Because he's what do you think. 446 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 6: Just them two together with two and a half. It's 447 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 6: gonna be hard for me to let Dallas not It's 448 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 6: gonna be hard for me to embrace that Dallas is 449 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 6: just gonna let those two guys just totally destroy them 450 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 6: without having any type of plan for them. So I'm 451 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 6: gonna go under. I believe that they're very much capable. 452 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 6: I just don't think Dallas is gonna have a team 453 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: in their division knowing the two players that can get 454 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 6: to the quarterback allow them to do it. So I 455 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 6: think they're gonna have a plan for Burns, which I 456 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 6: don't think a lot of teams, especially the Raiders, have 457 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 6: plans for Burns. I think they will have a plan 458 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 6: for Burns to slow them down a little bit. 459 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean they may have a plan for him, but 460 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean the way Burns is playing. Who knows if 461 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: it'll work? 462 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 6: Is true? Is true? 463 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 3: Matt, What do you think I'm gonna have to go 464 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: with under? 465 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 4: As well? 466 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: I mean as great as Burns has been playing all 467 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: season and a duel over the last month. That means 468 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: they have to combine for three sacks between the two players. 469 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: That's just a lot. 470 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: I think they could potentially each get one sack and 471 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: hit two, but to get over two and a half, 472 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 3: I think that's just a bit steep. 473 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go under, Russ. 474 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 5: Madeline correct me. Is it just between Carter and Burns 475 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 5: or the entire team? 476 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 2: Just between Carter and Burns? 477 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, just between Carter and Burns. If it's just between 478 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 5: the two of them, you know what, wishful thinking. I'm 479 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: gonna say, they take care of business and keep running around. 480 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say over. 481 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say wishful thinking, They're gonna go over. 482 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Russ, I mean, I get it. You know, 483 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: it's a lot to think about. Oh, they gonna have 484 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: a lot, they're gonna be preparing for these guys this 485 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: and that. But again, Dak is a quarterback that gets 486 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: sacked a lot. Brian Burns has sixteen and a half 487 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: sacks on the season. I wouldn't be surprised if he 488 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: got three in a game on his own. 489 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. I kind of feel that way also, yeah. 490 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and especially closing out the season, he's like, 491 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: how much can I close this gap on Miles Garrett? 492 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: I got one more shot, let's go. I could see 493 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: him doing it. I could see him in a dual 494 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: combining for it. I'm going to take the over on 495 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: this one. Let's talk a little offense though. Touchdowns total 496 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: touchdowns by Jackson dark passing and rushing over under two, Matt, 497 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: What do you think? 498 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 6: So? 499 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: At first I was gonna go with a push. I 500 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: think I was going to go with two total because 501 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 3: he's only had more than two in two games. 502 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 4: Throughout the whole season. 503 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 3: But then I did a little deeper dive into the 504 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 3: Cowboys defense and I looked at the points up lately. 505 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: This is just going back the last five games, twenty 506 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 3: three points, thirty four points, thirty four points, forty four points, 507 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 3: twenty eight. So because of that, I think Jackson is 508 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 3: more than capable of getting to at least three touchdowns 509 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 3: against this defense. 510 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go over. 511 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: I can see it because he is your giggling. 512 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 6: What do you think, but Matt, you could keep going back. 513 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 6: It's gonna sound the same with Dallas defense. They're getting 514 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 6: up thirty points a game. Bro. Yeah, I think look, 515 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 6: last week we saw Jackson Dart's full skill set in 516 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 6: front of us. That's what we saw. We saw his 517 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 6: full skill set. They got into emptd threw the ball efficiently, 518 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 6: he got the ball out of his hands. He found 519 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: his favorite target in Wanda Robinson. When he got to 520 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 6: certain situations where he had to talk the ball, he 521 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 6: did it. He did it decisively. He started to slide. 522 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 6: Of course, he fought for that touchdown and the end zone. Well, 523 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 6: he did take a shot, and that's somewhere where I 524 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 6: think that he's having discernment on now. It's like, all right, now, 525 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 6: that's a situation where I know I'm going to fight 526 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 6: for that and I'm going to go get it. He 527 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 6: is a guy when he has his skill set when 528 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 6: he's available to him. Because I don't think it was 529 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 6: in the Vikings game. The last week is the type 530 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 6: of game we see, and I think he's progressing and 531 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 6: he's getting smarter, he's having discernment. He's not taking unnecessary hits, 532 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 6: and that's what you wanted to see. In a postgame 533 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,639 Speaker 6: interview I heard from him, Paul Deatino asked him, you know, 534 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 6: Paul gave him a little layup. He was like, hey, 535 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 6: you know, you're protecting yourself. And his answer to that 536 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 6: question was finally what I wanted to hear. He said 537 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 6: that he's learning, and I was like, that's all we 538 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 6: wanted to hear from you, dark and not that we 539 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: haven't seen it, but I wanted to hear him say it. 540 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 6: Now that he said it, for me, it gives me 541 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 6: the utmost confidence that this kid is going to be special. 542 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 6: Two touchdowns a game for him is at least what 543 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 6: I'm requiring for him, because I think he's that good. 544 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 6: That's because people don't give him credit for his passing ability. 545 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 6: I think he's a phenomenal passer of the football is 546 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 6: and he will get better. 547 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 4: The run part. 548 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: He just has to have discermon and when not to 549 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 6: get hit. That he got figured out. He already had 550 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 6: to tucking it when he's supposed to tuck it, scramble 551 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: it when he's supposed to scramble it. They are designing 552 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 6: runs for him and he has a lot of success 553 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 6: and I'm sorry to go on his rant here, I 554 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 6: just had to give Jackson Dark his flowers because this 555 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 6: kid is phenomenal and he will have at least two 556 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 6: touchdowns against Dallas. 557 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, Russ, what do you think? 558 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 6: I agree? 559 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: I agree he's going to have at least the two touchdowns. 560 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 5: And I'm really glad that jac brought it up. In 561 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: terms of his passing, I mean, I think he's an 562 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: excellent passer. I mean as a rookie. To me, he 563 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 5: looks very strong, he spins a good ball, and let's 564 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 5: be honest, Jackson was the victim of a lot of 565 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 5: draw passes by his this year, a lot of draw passes, 566 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 5: so those passing stats would have been up as well 567 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 5: like touchdown a stats. So now I think he goes over. 568 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he goes over as well. 569 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: For the point that you made too, I mean that 570 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: defense is one that is a great opportunity for him 571 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: to have some scoring. And also this is the first 572 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: time we're going to see Jackson dart against the Cowboys, 573 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: and the Giants played the Cowboys earlier this season. It 574 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: was Russell Wilson at quarterback, and we remember what a 575 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: barn Burner of a game. That one was a lot 576 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: of scoring back and forth. This is going to be 577 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: a big moment for Jackson Dart playing the Cowboys for 578 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 1: the first time as a Giant. I think he's going 579 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: to go out there and put on a show for 580 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: the final game of the season. 581 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: But we shall see. 582 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: Week eighteen on Deck one pm at MetLife Stadium, Giants Cowboys. 583 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: This is the last hangout of the season, but we've 584 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: got a season recap coming next week too, so we'll 585 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: be back running it back and recapping all that was 586 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty five Giants season. 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