1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of From 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Russia with Trend. Oh trend doesn't sound like love, Jael 3 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: doesn't at all. But that's that's what I got. My 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: name is Jack. That's Miles. That one. That trending title 5 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: courtesy of me, just realizing five seconds before we started 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: recording that I needed a trending title. All right, Miles, Yes, 7 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Russia is trending. 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Russia. Russia, Russia is what they do this time? 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: Yoj brother, what do this right time? 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: Right around the time we stopped recording the trending episode yesterday, 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: there's like this unsealed indictment from the Department of Justice 12 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: that shows that a Tennessee based media network that produces 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: shows for high profile right wing influencers such as Benny 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 3: Johnson and Tim Poole, Lauren Southern, Dave Rubin, and the like, 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: turned out to be largely funded by Russian state backed 16 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 3: news network RT Russia Today. The DOJ quote claims the 17 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 3: US company, along with other news outlets they were able 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: to identify, as Tenant Media, but it goes unnamed in 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: the indictment, posted hundreds of videos on social media that. 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Pushed Kremlin approved talking points. 21 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: They were able to figure out because in the indictment 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 3: it said like like there was just something that just 23 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 3: was fully ripped off of like their YouTube channel, and 24 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: people were like, Oh, that's this place. And then when 25 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 3: they lined up like how many subscribers people had, They're like, Oh, 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: that's Tim Poole, Oh that's Benny Johnson. 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: What is going on? 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: So it turns out this is from Wired Quote posing 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: as outside video editors. The pair of Russia Today employees 30 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: allegedly were intimately involved in Tenant Media's operations. Kalishnikov, for example, 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: quote monitored Tenet Media's internal communications and edited content published 32 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: by the company. 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: The indictment claims. 34 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Afanas Yeva, who allegedly used the fake personas Helena Shudra 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: and Victoria Pesti while working with Tennant Media, said to 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: have Quote edit, did, posted and directed the posting by 37 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: Tenant Media, and provided day to day direction to the 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: company's staff, alleging that she worked with Tenet Media, including 39 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: instructing the company to post pro Russian viewpoints such as 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: pushing a micro pushing a conspiracy theory that Ukraine and 41 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: US were responsible for a March terrorist attack, and a 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 3: music venue in Moscow. The indictment is full of many 43 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 3: damning little tidbits, like including some of the talking points 44 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: that they wanted disseminated, and when you read them, you're like, 45 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, this is like Fox. Yeah, so 46 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: they say all the time, which is kind of odd 47 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: because like that Also in the indictment, they're saying that 48 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: these people were like unwittingly part of this scheme, but 49 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: it seems like. 50 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: So they didn't know they were working for the Kremlin. 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: They were somebody's Yeah, they're like they're offering me, like, 52 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 3: you know, timpoles like I want one hundred kN episode, 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, or it's just not worth it for me, 54 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 3: and like it all like they got what they wanted. 55 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: There are wires did this investigation? 56 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, not why this is just like 57 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: this is just from one of the this. 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Is why it is reporting on a DOJ investigation. 59 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, And many people are now reporting on this because 60 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 3: it's pretty big and these are huge voices in like 61 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: right wing talker sphere, and when you like look at 62 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 3: the kinds of things that they've been saying, you're like, 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: oh right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean. 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: This all makes sense. 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: I mean people have been saying that for a while 66 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: now are regurgitating this stuff. 67 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, for a while now, it's been very strange that 68 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has like suddenly become very pro Russia 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: and or at least like a lot of the adherence 70 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: to the Republican Party and the mouthpieces of the Republican 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Party and Fox News' method for generating stories for a 72 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: long time now has been just like, see what the 73 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,839 Speaker 1: types of people like Tim Poole are saying, and then 74 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: just like let that stuff bubble up essentially exactly, so it. 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: Goes from right wing shit talkers to then pretending it's 76 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: like real mainstream news and you're saying stuff like Ukraine 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: is the biggest enemy of the United States, and it's 78 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: just like kind of hard to to like understand because 79 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: a big rually these people just push whatever like the 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: antithetical viewpoint is of whatever Democrats are saying. So it's 81 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: like through that prism, like I can see how they 82 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: could have plausible deniability of or like, well, like I'm 83 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: just diametrically opposed to everything they say. So if they 84 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: say we need to help Ukraine, I say they are 85 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: our greatest enemy. But then you put this along the 86 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 3: lines of what these specific talking points that these people 87 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: were supposed to disseminate were. 88 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 2: And you're like, oh, well, what came first. 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: The propaly like the dissemination of you know, propaganda talking 90 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 3: points or the Republican's habits of just being like the 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: doing opposite day of Democrats. 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: What is all Tim Poole saying at this point and 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: we still do not know what is true on this one. Guys, yeah, exactly. 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: He's like yeah with these then he but then he 95 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 2: signs off. 96 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: He's like Putin is a scumbag, Russia sunk sucks donkey balls. 97 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: And to the journalists who wish to jump on, jump 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: the gun, create their own narrative or lie about what 99 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 3: is currently going on, you can my Irish ass. 100 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, Doug. 101 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 2: So just I don't know, it's all. 102 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: There's a great even more News episode or some more 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: news episode from Cody and Katie about Tempoole and just 104 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: like his instincts and like he'll there'll be like a 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: mass shooting and he'll be he will just like guess 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: exactly wrong as to like what's going on, and like 107 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: be proven wrong within twelve hours. But like go real 108 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: real strong on, like you know, I think we can 109 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: tell what's going on here, Yeah, exactly, just like get 110 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: the like get the person who's involved wrong. So yeah, 111 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I mean it always felt like this is what was 112 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, and now we seem to have receipts 113 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: that this is what's going on. 114 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 115 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 3: This is causing a bit of a stir on the 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 3: right as they're like trying to like Jesse Waters was like, well, 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: by this metric, everything I say on this show, we'll 118 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: have the earmarks of Russian propaganda. And you're like, yeah, yeah, 119 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 3: trying to make it be like it's actually China that's 120 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: bad and they're doing their best to like spin this all. 121 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: Kinds of ways. But I don't know. 122 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 3: I mean, like there are many other countries who I 123 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 3: would say, are we have politicians disseminating their talking points 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: as well through uh, you know, intermediaries such as APAC. 125 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 2: But yes, today. 126 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, uh some ripples like Blaze just fired one of 127 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: the video creators who was actually like tied in with 128 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: this Blaze TV. The Glenn Beck's like weird little media 129 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: company just fired Lauren Chen who's involved. Yeah right, yeah, 130 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: like she's an independent contractor. We actually don't know her 131 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 1: never never even talked to her. We just right churn intent. 132 00:06:56,240 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly, But yeah, this is this is all 133 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 3: everyone is like trying to explain away, like what is 134 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: happening on the right. 135 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: It's just all very again. 136 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure this is going to continue to evolve 137 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: as the weekend goes on, because people are bracing themselves 138 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: for more revelations. 139 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: More revelations. So there's this guy, Licktman. He has predicted 140 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: successfully every presidential winner for the last forty years. At 141 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: about this time, so about a month out, two months out, 142 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: he runs the upcoming election through his thirteen keys and 143 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: outcomes result and as thirteen keys, we will take you 144 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: through what they are. They seem somewhat subjective. They're very 145 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: confusing to me. They don't like make clear sense to me. 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: But he was one of the only people who picked 147 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump to win in twenty sixteen who wasn't like 148 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: actively working for the Donald Trump campaig. And the one 149 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: place that he was off is Al Gore. He predicted 150 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: Al Gore would win in two thousand, George W. Bush 151 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: one in two thousand. But he's like, actually not really though, 152 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: if Florida had not fucked up the vote counting, which 153 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean is an argument. I think it would just 154 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: be fair for him to be like it was extremely close, 155 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: that was the only one that was marginal. But anyways, 156 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: he has run the numbers on the upcoming election and 157 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: they I think it's of the thirteen keys, he has 158 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: like ten of them going for Kamala Harris. And yeah, 159 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: because like the way the article in the the article 160 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: that's writing about it is the Daily Mail dot Co. 161 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: Which yeah, not the most so like this this should 162 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: put just put what we're saying in the proper context. 163 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: This person is like somewhere between the octopus who could 164 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: predict the world outcome and Nate Silver, you know, who 165 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: also not very reputable, but. 166 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: He's not weird hair. Is that a wig? You think? 167 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: Have you seen this guy? 168 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Is the braids? I don't what is it? Who lickman? 169 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah he's got oh wow. Yeah yeah, Now I'm not 170 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 2: saying that's a wig, but yeah. 171 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: That's a that's a wild head of hair on top 172 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of his head. 173 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 174 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 3: But I mean a lot of people are a lot 175 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: of people are picking It's not just the Daily Mail, 176 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: but like a lot because you know, because of his 177 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 3: sort of nickname. 178 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: As like election nostrodamus. 179 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: You're like, whoa, another little another, Let's put another check 180 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: pollmark on that side for the horse race. 181 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: The other key, which direction myke ken burns ass hair 182 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: is pointing When I wake up the morning before the election. Hey, 183 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: uh so I'll just the keys. The thirteen keys include 184 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:12,599 Speaker 1: mid term gains, incumbency, primary contest, third party, short term economy, 185 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: long term economy, policy change, social unrest, white House scandal, 186 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: incumbent charisma, challenger charisma, foreign policy failures, and foreign policy success. 187 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: And like, the article by the Daily Mail is weird 188 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: because it's it says like, well, two of these things 189 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: could switch for Trump in the coming weeks, which would 190 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: swing the election. But then it goes on to say 191 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: that even if those two factors switched, Trump would only 192 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: have five keys in his So I don't know why 193 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: they say in the first place. 194 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I would expect nothing less from a 195 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: conservative rag to like try and put a nice blanket 196 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: of cope around the bad news. 197 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but yeah, great. 198 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: It seems who knows. Other people are talking about how 199 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: Trump's attack ads on Kamala Harris might be working. According 200 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: to the Economist, which. 201 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 3: Is the one where he's like, she's she does sex 202 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: acts on people for her career. 203 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 2: Like what the like that ship that he's been saying, Okay, she. 204 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: Murdered people and used immigration as the murder weapon. 205 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're all voting for all. 206 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: Right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. 207 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back, And I guess that here's 208 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: one thing that Lichtmann's model isn't taken into account. Trump TikTok. 209 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's got a new ad out. I guess 210 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: you call it an ad. It just looks like a 211 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: direct to camera rant that he's doing. But telling all 212 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: the young ones out there that I love TikTok and 213 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: you should vote for me. This is him with his 214 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: latest plea to help him from legal jeopardy. 215 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: For all of those that want to save TikTok in America, 216 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 4: vote for Trump. The other side's closing it up. But 217 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,599 Speaker 4: I'm now a big star on TikTok. Have TikTok Jack. 218 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: And what's that say, TikTok Jack. I don't know what 219 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: that last part was, gonna have TikTok Jack? 220 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: What are you? 221 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: Are you TikTok Jack? 222 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean I do have a TikTok. 223 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, anyway, he's a big star. We'll take it again. 224 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 3: Maybe they have a check mark, but that you would 225 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: have that because you're a political anyway, I'll go on, Donald, we. 226 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 4: Even have TikTok Jack, and we're setting records. We're not 227 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: doing anything with TikTok, but the other side's going to 228 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: close it up. So if you like TikTok, you back 229 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 4: and vote for Trump. If you don't care about TikTok 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 4: and other things like safety, security and prosperity, then you 231 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 4: can vote for a Marxist who's going to destroy our country, 232 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 4: Thank you very much. 233 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Wow, And that was their best take, which is wild. Yeah, 234 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: because you know, you even got TikTok Jack, and you 235 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: know the kids. 236 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: They love to tick it on the talking like what 237 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: do you do it? What do who are you talking to? 238 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: Who's your Whoever made that video obviously was just like 239 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's a part where we don't know what 240 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the fuck he's saying or intending to say. But that's 241 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: actually a pretty good percentage ten percent, pretty good for 242 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: a normal Donald Trump. 243 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 2: Do we even have TikTok Jack? 244 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: Even is tick is the person who owns TikTok named Jack. 245 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: No tick talk Jack. 246 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: We even have TikTok Jack. 247 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: I feel like that's just one of those weird because 248 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 3: here's the thing, right, The thing that sticks out to 249 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 3: me is that, like all the time, like he's this, 250 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 3: this is he'd like any down the camera sort of 251 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: like ads he does. There's a fuck ton of edits 252 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: and cuts in there because the guy's brain is transitioning 253 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: from solid state to liquid fart. And this one is 254 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: remarkable because if only just for the fact that it's 255 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: just one take, like he's fucking hove. 256 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: In the booth or something. 257 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So because of that, it has the camera 258 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: shut the fuck up, get me in front of the camera. 259 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 3: In my brain, yeah, he's like, yeah, okay, no pen, 260 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 3: no pad, what's this? 261 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: What's this? I'm about to black out in the booth. 262 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: But that's why I like the TikTok Jack part. 263 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: Again, I'm maybe getting hung up on a weird thing 264 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 3: like the six point eight weeks, but uh, I don't 265 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 3: know what that means. 266 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: But there he is, and that's his plea to please 267 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: vote for him. Because the other guys. 268 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Find I'm not getting anything. I went to Internet and 269 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: searched TikTok Jack and quotes, and it's just people ray 270 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: the text from this add out and then saying what 271 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: is that? 272 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: Oh really? Yeah? Yeah, or it's a Joe Biden meme. 273 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 2: What's TikTok jack? 274 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's how I opened TikTok jack jack. Anyways, 275 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: but you know, so we'll see when you stick that 276 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: in your keys. Lichtman, I think he just fucking opened 277 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: the door one of my whole fucking thing. I think 278 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: he just TikTok jacked opened the door on this election, 279 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: all right. And then we just wanted to check in, 280 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: as we do. We could care. That's about the country struggling. No, 281 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: I want to hear about Havana syndrome. 282 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: Don't we don't we folks? We love Havana syndrome, don't 283 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 2: we folks? 284 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: We love it, don't we folks? Uh So, one of 285 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: the first stories we ever talked about on the show. 286 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Uh and it might be time to bid farewell. I 287 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: mean it already seemed pretty. 288 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 2: But fully killed it. 289 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I bodied that shit miles. Yeah, but it 290 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: was dredged up by sixty minutes earlier this year. And 291 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: then there were the conspiracy theorists who suggested that Biden's 292 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: pour debate performance was due to some kind of sonic 293 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: weapon and not literally every other problem that's been plaguing 294 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's brain that we all knew. 295 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: About, right, and also like to the symptoms of Howyavana 296 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: syndrome's like, I don't know, stress and aging. 297 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: It sounds yeah, yeah, well it's in the news again 298 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: this week. First of all, the New York Times obtained 299 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: part of the FBI's redacted twenty nineteen report on Havana syndrome, 300 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: which definitively concludes that it was a quote social contagion 301 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: and nothing else. The FBI is said, you got notes 302 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: that the agency could not quote identify any single cause 303 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: for these symptoms. The FBI, I was so dismissive of 304 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: the Havana syndrome theory that they put the word victim 305 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: in quotation marks describing those affected by havana sysm. FBI 306 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 1: and the CIA don't get along, So like there's that, 307 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: but like this. 308 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 3: Is I just love to like for people who I'm 309 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: sure are experiencing these kinds of symptoms. You read this 310 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 3: thing like yeah victim number three, yeah, aka whiny ass Brad, 311 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 3: and you're. 312 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 2: Like, oh, I think I use my home in there. 313 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: But the big news is UH. A institution that is 314 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: not known for beefing with the CIA, the National Institutes 315 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: of Health, has announced that it's stopping its Havana syndrome 316 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: research after a quote internal investigation found that people had 317 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: been coerced into being part of the research, which is 318 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: a big problem because voluntary consent is necessary for any 319 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: ethically conductive research. You need the person to want to 320 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: be part of it. Like, it can't it can't be 321 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: like I don't know I'm being made to submit to this, 322 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: because then obviously there are questions about do you have 323 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: an ulterior motive? Who does the person who's making you 324 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: do this have an ulterior motive? 325 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? I like that in that report, Like they couldn't specify, Like. 326 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the NIH doesn't specify. But these are CIA agents 327 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: who are being forced by someone who's good at forcing 328 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: things without being named to participate, even making them quote 329 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: join the research as a prerequisite to getting healthcare. The 330 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: CIA denies this. 331 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: Wow wow, wow. 332 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: In any case, the NIH is done with this shit. 333 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: It's not like they don't have a lot of information 334 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: at this point. Already, there've already been several studies conducted 335 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: that found absolutely nothing, and the NIH has stated even 336 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: though they're halting the current study, that decision does not 337 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: change the conclusions they've reached already, which were that it 338 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: is a social contagion, which was our conclusion, you know 339 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: seven years ago when we first started. 340 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 2: Is that when the story first came out. 341 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was happening at the very 342 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: start of the Trump administration. So yeah, I believe I 343 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: think it was. Actually I think the Havana sin. 344 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 3: First story case is reported in late twenty sixteen. 345 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was. It predates this show. Yeah, 346 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: those things don't predate this show. My second kid doesn't. 347 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: I know, It's been a long time. 348 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: Holy shit. 349 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: Also just worth noting, you know, Cuban President Miguel Diaz 350 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: Canal Better Mudez took to social media and was like, so, 351 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna like take another look at this one because 352 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: your quote disregard for the damage caused to this country 353 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: by the Havanah syndrome theory is quote a vile pretext 354 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: to include Cuba in the list of sponsors of terrorism 355 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: and to reinforce the genocidal blockade. With more than two 356 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: hundred and forty measures. Like, yeah, again, the blockade we've 357 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: talked about also on the show is starving people to death. 358 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: That's you know, America loves to have things. Let's be 359 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: bad for Cuban people so they can be like you see, folks, 360 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: if you oh. 361 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: Wow, look at Venezuela, look at that. Don't look at 362 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 3: the sanctions, just look at what's going on. 363 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: We got nothing to do with that. If they maybe, 364 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 2: if they weren't bad, put them on financial time out. 365 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, that is I mean that, that's precisely 366 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: like all this did was like to kind of keep 367 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 3: stoking the flames of a scary Cuba. But Blake Wexler 368 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,719 Speaker 3: went recently and he said it was wonderful. 369 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: So Cia, you got a lot of work to do. 370 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: If Blake Wexler came back from there and was like, 371 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, he was like, it was lovely. 372 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, you came back from there flush with cash though 373 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: and speaking with a Russian accent. 374 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: Idea to get a classic car from the fifties that 375 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: was cherry condition. 376 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, those are some of the things that 377 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: are trending on this Thursday afternoon. We are back tomorrow 378 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, 379 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get 380 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we 381 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 1: will talk to you all tomorrow. 382 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 2: Bye bye,