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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bacher Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena.

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Speaker 1: We are here with the one and only Jesse Palmer. Jesse,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Bacher Happy Hour.

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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, it's great. Standa. How are we doing? We're good?

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Speaker 4: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm I'm formerly sun burnt. It's now turned

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Speaker 3: into a lot of alvira and it's turning into appealing

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Speaker 3: ten nice.

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Speaker 5: Who needs to pay for a chemical appeal when you

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Speaker 5: can just go to Costa Rica for three weeks and

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Speaker 5: burn yourself off?

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Speaker 3: It's true. Yes, it's just exfoliate. Everything is off. It's

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Speaker 3: a fresh it's like a I feel like a snake.

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Speaker 3: I've just like peeled off my last my last seed

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Speaker 3: of skin to due to excessive son in paradise. But

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Speaker 3: it's great. It's good to be good to be home.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to think when the last time we

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Speaker 1: had you on this podcast. It was for whose season?

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Speaker 1: It might it might have been like Clayton season.

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Speaker 4: I think no time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my first. That was my first, your

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Speaker 3: first season, Yeah, I know it's been that long. It's crazy.

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Speaker 5: We must have had you on since then. Maybe Grants

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Speaker 5: or maybe Zach season.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I feel like on social I'm always like texting

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Speaker 3: and like messaging with you guys about food or wherever

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Speaker 3: you guys are traveling. I'm always like keeping up with

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Speaker 3: you guys that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were just in your hometown, right, Montreal.

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Speaker 3: Back in Montreal. I know, I know. It sounded like

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Speaker 3: that was quite the adventure.

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Speaker 2: It was, to say the least, but it was exciting.

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Speaker 5: I haven't been to Montreal since I was oh gosh,

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Speaker 5: I mean other than like I was there one night

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Speaker 5: for work really quick, but I the last monment for

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Speaker 5: like a week, and I was like eighteen, I think.

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Speaker 5: So it was more fun this time. Not more fun,

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Speaker 5: but different going like with money.

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Speaker 3: A lot of you know, it's funny too because a

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Speaker 3: lot of people love to go to Montreal when they're

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Speaker 3: eighteen because for forever, growing up, the legal age for

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Speaker 3: drinking was eighteen and Quebec, so that's when everybody would go.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you finally went back, and it sounds like

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Speaker 3: you guys ate something pretty amazing. You guys went to

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Speaker 3: Joe Beef.

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Speaker 4: We went to Joe Beef. What do you think about

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Speaker 4: that restaurant?

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Speaker 3: It was? It was I thought it was great, so strong. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if anybody out there is ever thinking about going to Montreal,

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Speaker 3: that's a place you absolutely have to go. And the

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Speaker 3: lobster pasta is what they're absolutely most known for it.

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Speaker 3: You guys, did you try that? Joe?

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't.

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Speaker 1: We got Yeah, I know, I didn't know that. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know that's what they were knowing.

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Speaker 2: I texted you after saw after we left.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we were like, oh shoot, but we saw the

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Speaker 5: girls at the table next to us get it and

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, shoot, that looks really good.

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Speaker 3: Really really good. How did you feel about? They have

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Speaker 3: a giant blackboard there with all of like the menu

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Speaker 3: written on it. It's in French, though, how did you

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Speaker 3: get Did that? Did that dissuade you? Did scare you?

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Speaker 3: We were not in that room. No, there's so there's

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've been there. I think they

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's like yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, maybe Liverpool too. It's

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Speaker 3: like the restaurant right next door, but they also have

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Speaker 3: the same menu. That place is. I'm so happy you

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Speaker 3: at least got to got to go there and do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually going back in two weeks. I'm taking Emily

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Speaker 3: and Ellis, so I'm already had like I'm trying to

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Speaker 3: put my whole restaurant list together. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, it was great.

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Speaker 5: We ate really well, and I was saying to Joe,

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Speaker 5: I feel like Canadian cuisine a is just underrated in general.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you gets so limited to like just poutine.

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Speaker 5: But I feel like we do do like Canadian cuisine

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Speaker 2: Like trying to describe it.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I feel like Canada does really well

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of fun care in the restaurant itself,

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Speaker 1: Like all the restaurants are very unique, and they all

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's a good point. Yeah, it's really They are

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Speaker 3: the Canadian a menu that you guys are eating. That's

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Speaker 3: really cool. Yeah, you're both lucky though, because obviously Toronto stream,

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Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad you guys at least got to

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Speaker 3: enjoy a little bit while you were there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is a better a happy hour

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Food Network. So okay, before we pivot,

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Speaker 1: I will say this is kind of a hot take

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Speaker 1: when it comes to lobster pastas.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of.

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Speaker 1: Like a half like a hard shell piece of lobster

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Speaker 2: I don't well, I think your issue is not the

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Speaker 1: Don't mind cracking the lobster. I just don't want to

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Speaker 3: Oh I'm kind of with Joe in that one. Like

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Speaker 3: I don't want to shell in my dick, like it's

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Speaker 3: taking up past my bowl. Yeah, pasta, just like remove

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Speaker 3: the meat and then put it in the pasta. Cut

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Speaker 3: it up. Here's a question for you. Do you care

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Speaker 3: if it's a claw, if it's quaw mete or do

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Speaker 3: you want the tail?

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't care about that that. I wouldn't care, but

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Speaker 1: If I'm gonna be completely honest, I just I just

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Speaker 4: But I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We just don't want extra stuff. I'm with you too.

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Speaker 3: Just take the show. It looks cool, I guess if

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Speaker 3: But anyway, like do you really want this thing? Sometimes

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Speaker 3: it's the head of the lobster just like staring at you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we can get rid of the eyes.

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Speaker 1: Let's break down paradise just like in like, so you've

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Speaker 1: just like, your initial thoughts getting there? How's it different everything?

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Speaker 2: What was your thoughts before you went?

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Speaker 5: When they told you, like, hey, you did two seasons, Salulita,

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Speaker 2: How did you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: I'd only been there once before that was on Gary

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Speaker 3: Like we were just eating and someone threw like a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's less crazy than just some random

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Speaker 3: And I don't know why my mind went to the

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Speaker 3: like I felt like Joe's you know, Joe's known. I

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Speaker 3: just threw a meatball at it. Yeah it was a frog. Anyways,

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Speaker 3: the animals were great. Costa Rica's amazing that people were fantastic.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to talk with her and like justin glaze

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Speaker 3: and like Kat was always telling me, She's like, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I forgot about that.

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Speaker 5: There was actually a lot of stuff I packed that

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Speaker 4: Do you think that matters?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you think because our conditions weren't as

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Speaker 2: For contributed to the drama.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, better TV, I guess, or I wonder about that

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Speaker 3: I think there's like there's this sliding scale because on

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Speaker 3: we've all been you know, we've been there, We've done it.

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Speaker 3: I feel like on Paradise this year, I think we

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Speaker 5: But everyone was just so dead, and I feel like,

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Speaker 1: Out of all the first day casts that's on the show,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really excited to meet Dale. I had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Joe and I were talking about this and we

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Speaker 2: So they're definitely just being more selective.

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Speaker 1: isn't nowhere to go. So if you do, like if

440
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 1: you're courageous and you like step out and pull someone,

441
00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,679
Speaker 1: everyone on the beaches is watching and judging you, and

442
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,480
Speaker 1: they're kind of like.

443
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 5: Oh, people don't get brave until nightfall yea, and they

444
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 5: feel like they're like in disguise a little bit and

445
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 5: it's like you can't see everything.

446
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: I like, it's you're so right. It's like there's that learning.

447
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 5: Curve day usually of like everyone trying to get their

448
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 5: sea legs. So I do love to hear that they

449
00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 5: just like took off with a bang and went for it.

450
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:45,960
Speaker 3: You know. As the host, you know, I kind of

451
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: walk out. I'm like, hey, everybody, welcome to Paradise. We're

452
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: here in Costa Rica. This is great, all right, you

453
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 3: know on this journey blah blah blah blah blah blah,

454
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 3: how fun guys. You know, Bars open Wells is waiting

455
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,639
Speaker 3: for it, and it was just like and just people

456
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 3: just started scattering and finding each other. So that was

457
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,439
Speaker 3: that felt really really good, and I don't feel like

458
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 3: we had to waste any time. We just got right

459
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 3: into it.

460
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 5: I wonder if that was a result of maybe the

461
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 5: smaller cast. I feel like, you know, Joe and I

462
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,200
Speaker 5: were like he.

463
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Was second to the beach. I was forced.

464
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 5: We were there very early in the day, and I

465
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 5: feel like sometimes the energy is like, well, I don't

466
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 5: want to pull someone because what if someone's like what

467
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 5: if someone else comes down?

468
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 2: That I like, and like people are coming down literally all.

469
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: The smaller cast for smaller cast makes it more intimate.

470
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 5: I know, I'm only maybe into three let me chat

471
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,040
Speaker 5: with them. I like this one best pull, like it

472
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,399
Speaker 5: kind of streamlines all of it.

473
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think also it was intentional. I think in

474
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: the way we shot this one too. I think one

475
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,240
Speaker 3: of the things I'm really excited for people to see

476
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 3: about this Paradise. I think it's going to look entirely different.

477
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 3: The show creative is a little bit different this year.

478
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 3: But also I think the cameras that were used and

479
00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:00,720
Speaker 3: sort of the the way it shot, I think is

480
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: going to look a lot different. I'm not a director,

481
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,679
Speaker 3: so I can't speak to like specifics of all this stuff,

482
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 3: but I know we used different cameras and I think

483
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 3: with that, what it allowed us to do in some

484
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 3: ways was actually shoot intimate scenes but from further away.

485
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 3: So if you and Joe he pulls you and you

486
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 3: guys are off to on the on the beach somewhere,

487
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: there's like two cameras jammed in your face and you're

488
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 3: trying to have this serious talk about you know, what

489
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 3: do you hope to get out of paradise and maybe

490
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 3: you're going to lean in for your first kiss, and

491
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 3: it kind of like makes it awkward. I think we

492
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 3: could sort of shoot further away from people and still

493
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 3: you know, but the cameras were able to catch obviously

494
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 3: everything that was happening, but it didn't make them feel

495
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: like they were all jammed up. And I think that

496
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 3: also helped our cast kind of loosen up a little

497
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 3: bit more. I know, I think that was a cognizant

498
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 3: choice that was made going into this year, was we're

499
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 3: already going to have more space, we're going to have

500
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 3: less people, but let's really make them feel like they

501
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,199
Speaker 3: have space and that we're not just we're not just

502
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 3: know we're constantly just all over them all the time.

503
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: They feel like they can't breathe. And so there's a

504
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 3: stylistic way that this season was shot. I think you're

505
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: going to see it right away from the very very

506
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 3: first arrival, it looks totally different.

507
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: Well it's about time, I mean, Jesus Christ, think they

508
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: gotta spend some money. I mean this has been this

509
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: has been years we've been using these jacked up cameras.

510
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 4: That's true.

511
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: Like everyone talks about, like everyone that's like in the

512
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: industry has always said, like the Bachelor cameras are like

513
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: much older. How was the Hannah Brown addition?

514
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 3: How is she amazing? Amazing? So, you know, Hannah, Hannah

515
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: is such an incredible personality who's never afraid to tell

516
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: it like it is. I think having her perspective there

517
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: also was really unique. So Hannah is the head of

518
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: Paradise Relations. That's sort of for official title in Paradise,

519
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: but she sort of wears mure like different hats. She

520
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 3: helps set up dates, she curates dates for people, she's

521
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: there for advice, she's popping champagne for people. She's just

522
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: sort of Hannah sort.

523
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 6: Of all all knowing, all around all the time, and

524
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 6: I think having like as big a name as her

525
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 6: and someone who's who's obviously beloved in Ambachador Nation, I

526
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 6: think having having her in Paradise and getting that perspective

527
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 6: from her also, I think really added a lot.

528
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: It was really really great having her there every single day.

529
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 3: And she's someone that the cats just loves, like a

530
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,880
Speaker 3: lot of it. Like a lot of the people are

531
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 3: like massive men, like huge hand of breath, and everybody

532
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: loves well Everyone loves Wells, like everybody loves Wells.

533
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 4: But they're people who like love fans.

534
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 3: They're fan girling, like fan girling on the show reading

535
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: her books, like it brought her books to Paradise, to reading. Yeah,

536
00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 3: it was really.

537
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 5: Cool, Anna to the manager from season one of The

538
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 5: White Lotus.

539
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're like, you're the new manager of Yeah.

540
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was great. It was. It was

541
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: so cool, And it was great getting to know where too,

542
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,719
Speaker 3: because I I obviously knew who she was, but I

543
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 3: didn't I didn't know her personally so well, and obviously

544
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: her Wells and I got to hang out a lot

545
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: throughout Paradise. We took Wells out for his birthday. We

546
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: tried to find dinners like whenever we could. And then

547
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: Hannis fiance came down as well and visited, so Adam's great,

548
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: So we all got to know each other pretty well.

549
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: It was really it was great. Great addition, I have

550
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 3: to say that was that was fantastic.

551
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 4: Creative, nice.

552
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: Last last thing we got to talk about before we

553
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: let you go the Golden People.

554
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 4: How is that?

555
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: Yeah? What can you tell us? How did that work out?

556
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 5: I think that's like the big question on so many

557
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 5: people's minds is like, how is this going to work

558
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 5: with the Golden Cast?

559
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,239
Speaker 3: Yes? So, uh, it was one of it was one

560
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 3: of the things I was most excited about because I've

561
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,120
Speaker 3: gotten to know them very well obviously through the through

562
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor and Golden Bacherette, and I think I

563
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: was always hopeful and aware of the value they could

564
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: add to Paradise. So, you know, I was off camera

565
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 3: telling and on camera telling a lot of the younger cast, like, hey,

566
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: when they show up, you need to pick their brains,

567
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: Like you can't just don't just hang out and have

568
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 3: drinks with them, but like ask them questions about relationships,

569
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: ask them questions about life, ask them questions about life

570
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: outside of this like really get in get in their minds,

571
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: because the greatness of the Goldens is that they don't care.

572
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 3: Like they're at an age now where they've lived their life.

573
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 3: They do not care what people at home think anymore.

574
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: They're not using this, they're not trying to be influencers.

575
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: After the show's over. Like they've lived their life, they've

576
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: done their thing, and you know, they're just trying to

577
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: have fun and they were super excited the the the

578
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: direction when the Goldens arrive is sort of like, hey,

579
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: like you know, you know, we obviously have two completely

580
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: different generations here in Paradise, and you know, uh, we're

581
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: encouraging you to sort of stay in your generational lane

582
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 3: when it comes to when it comes to dating. Obviously,

583
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't tell anybody who to love and

584
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 3: who want to love not to love. It's not my

585
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: job in the point twenty five, you know, you can't.

586
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 3: You can't tell anybody that. But you know, just like

587
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: just don't make it weird.

588
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I think that's fair.

589
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's like that that that was kind of it.

590
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 3: And they're great and I'll say this and this this

591
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 3: will be probably a surprise to a lot of people

592
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: at home. It's not it's not to me because I've

593
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: been around them, but it was. It's actually the Goldens

594
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: who I think infused the most energy in the show.

595
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: And I'm not taking a shot at the young people.

596
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 3: I'm not taking a shot at a younger cast. But

597
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: after a couple of days of shooting, you kind of

598
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: start getting comfortable, you know, you start coupling up, and

599
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 3: everybody doesn't. It feels like they're kind of like they're

600
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 3: off edge a little bit. The Goldens bring it every

601
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 3: single day.

602
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, when they filmed Golden Bauchler and Baucherette, they were like,

603
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: these guys had way more energy than the usual cast.

604
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: The night one at the Mansion on the Golden Bachelor

605
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: and Golden Bacheorette is a bigger party and it actually

606
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: goes later than the Younger Bachelor and Bachelorette, if you

607
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 3: can believe that. They go so hard, like the parties

608
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 3: at the pool in Paradise. It was all it was like,

609
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: it was the Goldens like turning it up. They turned

610
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 3: up every day.

611
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 2: I wonder what it is.

612
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: Bits it's you know, you're born in the fifties and sixties,

613
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: times were harder, like you had the work longer hours,

614
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: like things were tougher nowadays, everyone's just you know, we

615
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: got it, we got it easy.

616
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 6: You know.

617
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: I think there's an argument for and against that point.

618
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I've just yeah, met and hangmore

619
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: and hang.

620
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 3: Like like the makeout sessions in the pool and the

621
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 3: body shots.

622
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: No makeout sessions.

623
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 3: It was broke fucking face in the pool and body shots.

624
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: It was the Goldens. I'm telling you just watch, just

625
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 3: just watch.

626
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: We will watch, Belie.

627
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable.

628
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

629
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Jesse, thank you so much for taking the

630
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: time out of your day.

631
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 4: You can let everyone know where to follow you on Instagram.

632
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 3: I'm kidding, I don't know my own handle.

633
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 4: I think I'm totally kidding. Everyone knows who you are

634
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 4: who listens to this podcast. Jesse, thank you so much.

635
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 4: We really appreciate it.

636
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much.

637
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: Grat seeing you too.

638
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: We're yeah, we're happy to hear you back in La,

639
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 5: back with the wife and Ella.

640
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's good. Well, I hope, and let's not wait

641
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: so long the next time we do want to.

642
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: Do yep, one hundred recent.

643
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: You're welcome back whenever. We'll have me back during this

644
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: and to get your thoughts on all the chaos.

645
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: And you'll be like, oh, yeah, you're right, the golden Yeah,

646
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: you're like, damn, it wasn't lying. That's going to be good.

647
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: And to all our listeners, thank you so much for

648
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: tuning into Bacheler Happy Hour.

649
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 4: Make sure you download and subscribe to the podcast.

650
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 5: We have new and excicive interviews come your way as

651
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 5: we t up for the new season of Bator in Paradise.

652
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: Thanks for listening.

653
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: Bye,