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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, and this is the Keeping Positive Sweetish.

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Speaker 1: Show, and everybody can't go.

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Speaker 2: And Tyler he was on here and he said, it's

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Speaker 2: like a rocket ship. You know, you have boosters, but

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Speaker 2: when it gets to a certain yeah.

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Speaker 3: When it breaks that stratosphere, stuff has to fall off

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Speaker 3: because it'll slow it down.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: Have you dealt with that?

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Speaker 3: It's been It's been hard, uh for me, because I

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Speaker 3: care so much about people. But then on the other side,

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Speaker 3: the purpose creates the distance because they can't keep up,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And so and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: like because like there's times literally I'll be like.

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Speaker 4: God, God is so funny with me. Like I'll meet somebody.

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Speaker 3: I'll be like, God, they cool, and you know, we'll

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Speaker 3: get to chopping it up man, And all of a sudden.

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 3: I'm on the road for like, and then try to

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Speaker 3: keep up. But and God was speaking to me, you know,

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Speaker 3: he said, you, i'mna, I have to assign certain peoples

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Speaker 3: to where you are because what we carry, as massive

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Speaker 3: too delicate to be put in the wrong hand.

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Speaker 1: Mismanaged.

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Speaker 4: And it's too delicate to be mismanaged.

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Speaker 3: So there's some friendships that I've had to grieve and

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Speaker 3: I've had to have some conversation you know, with some

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Speaker 3: friends that they accepted it, and he was like, man, Jay,

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Speaker 3: we just you know, we're just so used to what

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Speaker 4: And it ain't that no more.

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Speaker 3: And the fear for a lot of people when God

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Speaker 3: starts to expand those that whoever He's handpicked and chose

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Speaker 3: is nobody wants to be left behind. And that's what

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Speaker 3: it is. And so I've had to learn that I

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Speaker 3: can't bring everybody. And I think right now I have

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Speaker 3: the perfect team around me. It took years to find

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Speaker 3: the right fit people that that you can trust with

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Speaker 3: your career. You know what I'm saying, because that's big.

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Speaker 3: But through much prayer, it's just my mom man interceding

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Speaker 3: for me. And then there's a few ladies that intercede

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Speaker 3: along with her, some some some old saints. Man that

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Speaker 3: that gonna get up there in the morning and call

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Speaker 3: on God man, and that gonna see and that gonna say, hey, King,

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Man, That that's just such a blessing to have people

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Speaker 3: because when we're doing what we do, uh, we you know,

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Speaker 3: that's some things that we overlook that we miss. And

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Speaker 3: sometimes a snake do get in the camp and I

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Speaker 3: never forget. My mom told me about this particular person man.

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Speaker 3: She woke about her sleep and called me, God said,

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Speaker 2: My mama had a dream about somebody too, that's crazy, Mama's.

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Speaker 2: My mama had a dream that a friend of mine

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Speaker 1: And she was like, please, she said, just be careful.

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Speaker 2: And she was like, I don't think it's she would

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Speaker 1: I said, my God today, as you say, no, it was.

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Speaker 3: It's real and we need it because we don't because

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Speaker 3: a husband is a covering as much as a wife

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Speaker 4: We don't have that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: So we so we need it and I welcome it.

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Speaker 3: Like before I get on the stage, my mother prays, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And when I get off the stage, she prayed and

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Speaker 3: she says, I'll do this till your wife come.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because she says.

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Speaker 3: I need you to be covered because when I get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you notice from playing.

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Speaker 3: The character you you you, you have to become void,

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Speaker 4: Like, I got to call my mama, call my mom.

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Speaker 3: Immediately. I was just like I said, Mama, pray. I

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Speaker 2: It's like Jesus when he would feed the fish and

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Speaker 3: The reason you gotta be prayed over because that is

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Speaker 4: And so you know, I just thank God that you

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Speaker 3: Manuse like we have a huge assignment we do.

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Speaker 2: And it's like you said, the people like making sure

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Speaker 2: have you have you noticed like as you go closer

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, I like there's a lot like

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Speaker 3: you know, my team now is really good, but they've

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about deep things and things that have a

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Speaker 3: You get around me, you're gonna get set free that

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Speaker 3: there's no doubt about it. You cannot stay the same

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Speaker 4: Jay? Okay, Yeah, you can't stay the same around me.

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Speaker 3: And that's not an arrogant but that's what God is

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Speaker 3: So that's times I've gotten off stage, I've saw people

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Yes, you know you still

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Speaker 4: Because I do. And you know, I'm not in a

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Speaker 3: There's part of me that would love to have conversations

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Speaker 3: Exactly, And so the enemy will whisper that because I

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Speaker 3: Who I usually called my mother and I usually usually

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Speaker 3: they've been where I'm at. And Bishop scares me all

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Speaker 1: And that's probably what you want to hear from your father.

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Speaker 3: And I think because he told me, Bishop said, I

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Speaker 3: You're on the same trajectory I was on. Yeah, And

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Speaker 4: And when he said that, it just did something in me.

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Speaker 3: And to have him because we're at a season and

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Speaker 3: I gotta talk to the Jakes, and you gotta talk

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Speaker 3: When you're called up, you have to be talking to

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Speaker 4: That you can't go back to down. And I want

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Speaker 3: That's not say that I can't come down to mountain,

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Speaker 3: Yes, because everybody that's down don't don't want to do

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, Mama, because I don't want to bother

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Speaker 3: That's what keeps me humble because I'll never forget being

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. We got to bring him on a

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Speaker 1: Ain't no recordings?

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Speaker 3: When I tell you, I love how you know that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a ball.

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Speaker 4: Listen, listen have you had have you had a dumb

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Speaker 1: I haven't know about love Michelle.

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Speaker 3: So Michelle, you gotta do a podcast, Michelle, and I

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Speaker 4: I love Michelle. Michelle.

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Speaker 3: One thing Michelle gonna call me Doc Apostle, Bishop Spangelists.

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Speaker 3: Make sure you got them in DA.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you listen. Sign them. Everybody listen. I don't

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Speaker 4: I'm serious, man, Listen, Michelle, I love you man.

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Speaker 3: Listen, and not now and now Chrystal, Now Chrystal telling

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Speaker 1: Man, Yes, appearance releases and everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, listen, but it has been It's been a beautiful

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like when we get together. Think about when you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're like dang.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, yeah, man, where you be And it's just such

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Speaker 2: Come on now and see what you ain't gonna be

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Speaker 2: an You've accomplished so much.

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Speaker 2: But the latest thing you've done, you and doctor Joel

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Speaker 2: Because you've thrived in the mental health space via social

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Speaker 3: the talking and she says, what got you into mental health?

443
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 3: And I shared my story and she was just day

444
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: in tears and she said, you really love people, don't you.

445
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 3: I said absolutely. I said I don't care if they white, black,

446
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: you know, with color. I said, I love. I want

447
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 3: to see people well. And I said, more importantly, I

448
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 3: want to see men well. And she said to me,

449
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: she said, I would love to see more men come

450
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:53,239
Speaker 3: into my practice. And the lady said, my practice is

451
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 3: listed at.

452
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 4: One point two million revenue.

453
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: And he says, but for you, I'll give it to

454
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 3: you half of that.

455
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: Wow.

456
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, so Joel, So Joel is in

457
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 3: town preaching. So we go to dinner. I said, bro,

458
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: I just had this meeting. This lady wants me to

459
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: consider buying a practice. And Joe, what dog you lie?

460
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: We gotta do it, man, I said, yeah, he said

461
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: we And so I said, he said, I mean, he said,

462
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: if you have me, he said yeah, I said, he said,

463
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: I said, what you want for I said, j T,

464
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: I got, I got fifty on me.

465
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 4: Now, I said, real, j you'll see he's.

466
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: Well no, because I already know he's going to be

467
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: polished doctor Joel that I love you, bro, But you know,

468
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: he was like now, So we started talking. So we

469
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: do a meeting and we meet with the owner and

470
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 3: her husband. So we meet with them. She sends an

471
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 3: email and she says, I want you guys to consider

472
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: buying my practice. I was like, So we go look

473
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: at all for the location beautiful, and this lady was

474
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 3: on him. So we got a team together to do

475
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 3: the due diligence, to look under the hood, to check the.

476
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 4: Financials and the profit and losses. All of that.

477
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 3: Everything checks out. So we were going to go the

478
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: SBA route. But then all of a sudden, the lady says,

479
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 3: make me an offer.

480
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 4: Now.

481
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 3: She gave us one number. Then she turned around and

482
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 3: said make her an offer.

483
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: God all in the midst of this.

484
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Speaker 3: Thing, I said, j T, Dog, I'm telling you man,

485
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: God is gonna do it. So Mama married. I took

486
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,120
Speaker 3: she had a postcard. When we went by the first office,

487
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: he had a postcard. I took it home and put

488
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 3: it in the Bible and I lifted before God. I said, God,

489
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: if it's your will, yeah, I'll do it. But if

490
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 3: it's not, then I sent my Bible nowt and walked out.

491
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 3: My mother called me that night and said, dot God.

492
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 4: Is going to give you that practice.

493
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Wow, I said, Mama, because it took.

494
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: This process was about three months. Christians.

495
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: If people don't understand, this.

496
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 3: Is acquisitions is a lot of work. It's a lot

497
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 3: of work. And I'm in San Diego visiting my therapist.

498
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: I took eight days off. I said I need to

499
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: go by the water and pray. The second day I

500
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: was in San Diego, Jake with Joe. We got off

501
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: the phone and I said, Man, he said, Man, what

502
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: do you think. So the broker says, hey, somebody just

503
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: made us a cash offer, said man j T.

504
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: The broker said the broke.

505
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 3: I felt he was a little you know, I ain't

506
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 3: gonna say, but I didn't think he wanted us. So

507
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 3: the broker says, hey, doctor j Doctor Joe, somebody's made

508
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 3: a cash offer and the owner is going to review it.

509
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 3: And I told Joe, I said, man, bro we can

510
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: chock it up. Man, somebody will make her cash offer.

511
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: Man I said, she don'na take that. Joe Man, trust

512
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: God Man, I said, j T, I trust God, but

513
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 3: right now it's white man. I said, j T, I

514
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: trust God. But bro I'm just The next morning, I

515
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 3: get an email from the broker. The owner accepted, y'all offer.

516
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: Trust God Man.

517
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: So I call him right I'm on east coat.

518
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on the west coast, so it's I'm like,

519
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 3: it's six o'clock my time.

520
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 4: I'm at the gym, so I'm hype ready. I'm like crying.

521
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 3: I call him. I think he's in and flow, so

522
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: he's like three hours ahead. Yeah, I said, j T,

523
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 3: you ain't gonna bleed it what I said, she accepted

524
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 3: the offer. You Oh, I love my brother. I told

525
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: you God, we're gonna do this thing.

526
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: And sure enough.

527
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: Man, this lady Crystal, she told me, h at our meeting,

528
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 3: she said, I have fifteen.

529
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Offers because people want that.

530
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 3: She said, I had fifteen offers, but it was you

531
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Speaker 3: guys the entire time.

532
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: I know it was your heart for the people, and

533
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: that's what she said.

534
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: She said, venture capitalists so many people that offer money

535
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: because the revenue and the upside is astronomical. But she

536
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 3: said it was your heart, you and doctor Joe and

537
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 3: the business actmen, and just the integrity that you guys

538
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 3: move in. And I said, what made you choose us?

539
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: She said, you guys were always a right choice. She

540
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: said I had fifteen cash offers. And she said, I'm

541
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: excited to see what you guys do with my baby.

542
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: She says, I'm not going anywhere. She said, I want

543
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: you guys to lead it. I want you guys to

544
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: expand it, diversify it, and all the things, and so man,

545
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 3: when I tell you.

546
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 4: And then.

547
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: About three weeks ago, I get a call from a

548
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: brother who's a pastor, who calls and says, hey, man,

549
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 3: why didn't you tell.

550
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 4: Me what you and Joel was doing. I said, well,

551
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: I had to call you first.

552
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: And he said, I'm calling you because I have a

553
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: building that's paid for in Chicago. And he said, what

554
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 3: do you want to do with it? I said, definitely

555
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 3: mental health. He said, either you could take a whole floor,

556
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: you could take the whole building. I said, man, what's

557
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 3: it like. I said, what's the catch? He said, that's

558
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: no catch. He says, I live in New York and

559
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 3: he said, I own a lot of property.

560
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 4: Jay and I want to give you this building.

561
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: Wow.

562
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: Gave me the building. He said, I want to give

563
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: you the deed. He said, come look at it. I

564
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 3: want you to walk through it. Wow, he said, I

565
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 3: want you. And then another brother called this is. Another

566
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 3: brother called wow and said, brother, how much money do

567
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: you need? I said, I don't need nothing. He said,

568
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: I just want to get behind what you're doing. This

569
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 3: brother said, well, when you do it, just know that

570
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 3: you got a million dollars behind the next project. My God,

571
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: there's nothing, just walking in faith and just trusting God.

572
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 4: When he told me to go back to school.

573
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and look what yes, obedience.

574
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 4: He told me. God told me to go back to school.

575
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 4: In twenty fifty, did you question that? Why do I

576
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: do it?

577
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: And I was working in a group home, volunteer for

578
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: all girls group home, and I had a program for

579
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: girls that were battling anxiety and depression. And Alisa Jarrett,

580
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 3: the director of Black Women, she said, Jay, you need

581
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: to go back to school. She said, Jay, you good

582
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: at this. You need to be a therapist. I said,

583
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: Miss Alicia, by this time I had been in therapy.

584
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: I was thirty three years old. She said, Jay, I said,

585
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: Miss Alicia. I'm thirty three. I ain't going back no school.

586
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: Man.

587
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: If this bachelors don't do it, I can't. I can't

588
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: do it. I went home and God arrested me. God said,

589
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: go back to school. Something is coming, That's what he said.

590
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: This is twenty fifteen, twenty twenty.

591
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: For therapy was even like before therapy, come.

592
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 3: On now, and twenty twenty happened, and George Floyd passed,

593
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: and I started talking about mental health and black men

594
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 3: to Roder. She came across my video, brought me on

595
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: her team.

596
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 4: Dropped just he'll Bro.

597
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: Right after that, in August, I'm writing just here Bro,

598
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: just because God told me, he said, write it down.

599
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: I heard the name just here Bro. I wrote the book.

600
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: A year later, Meet Hope Allen turned Just here Bro

601
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: into a tour.

602
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 4: We do.

603
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 3: We tour three years, thirty six cities, eighteen thousand men.

604
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: Wow.

605
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 3: Then you know what I'm saying. I get a book deal.

606
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: Then it's like all this just And I heard God

607
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: say to me, your obedience has provoked me the same

608
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 3: as abraham obedience provoked him.

609
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: Yes.

610
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Yes, And I'm always been fascinated by Abraham because it's like,

611
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 3: how do you, how do you be called a friend

612
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: of God? Yes, right to be considered a friend. And

613
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: I was asking God. He said, the.

614
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 4: Way he trusts me, trust the way he trusts him.

615
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: To say, Hey, the very son that I gave you,

616
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm not calling you the psychophicer.

617
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

618
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 4: But to think that abraham faith was so strong in

619
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 4: God that he was walking in faith and didn't even

620
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 4: know it because he looked at the scripture said, he

621
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 4: looked at his servant and said, me and the lad

622
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: are going to worship and we will be.

623
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: Back down because he knew not.

624
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 4: Knowing that there was a ram in the bush.

625
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: Yes, he had faith. That's different kind of faith, that's different.

626
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: So when he told me to go, I was I

627
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 3: was in a relationship, engaged at thirty three.

628
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 2: Wow.

629
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Speaker 4: And I'm like I'm going back, like we're godege to what?

630
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, I just hear God, Jay,

631
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 3: Really you heard God?

632
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 4: Not oh man?

633
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: Like, and this is talking to people about what God

634
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 3: has said to you, Man is so dangerous.

635
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: No, seriously, I learned.

636
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: That because it was just like it broke my spirit,

637
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 3: it broke my confidence.

638
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 4: And then she did call me when I was on

639
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 4: Shearon Shepard Show. She texted me.

640
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: She DM me matter of fact, it said to watch

641
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: a man walk in what God said?

642
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: She says, Jay, she's married now and so God bless her.

643
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: But she said, Jay, the respect that I have for

644
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: you because I've never seen a man walk in something

645
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: that he felt laying to do. Yeah, And I said,

646
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: when God saved my life, I'm like, I know I

647
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 3: don't owe God, but I've always felt that and I

648
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: had known the choice, but the trust that's how we

649
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,919
Speaker 3: got here. I told Joe.

650
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 4: I was like Nigga, I said, Bro, I woke up

651
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 4: the other morning and I said, j T what he'd

652
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 4: be like.

653
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: Sometimes I love a begger. Sometimes he because he had

654
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 3: so much going on. What I said, Bro, we really

655
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: own yes practice.

656
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: It's crazy, and I want people to understand because I

657
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 2: have a friend whose family owns a really big one

658
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: here in Atlanta. To understand one how hard it is

659
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: to get it from the ground up. People would cut

660
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: off a left foot to have somebody who's already built

661
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 2: it up and say, here are my books, here's the business,

662
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: like the hard.

663
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: Part is already over. Like literally, they don't understand how

664
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: hard it is.

665
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 3: Lady built this thing for nine years. Yeah, and she

666
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: is willingly handed and over.

667
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that is that in itself is a huge blessing.

668
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know, we was like we have

669
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: weekly calls with her because you know, she's going to

670
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 3: stay on until, you know, till she fully transitioned out.

671
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: And she said to us, she says, guys, I'm not

672
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: going anywhere.

673
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be right here, you know, because I'm like,

674
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: you know, we assembling a great team.

675
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she's so excited for us.

676
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing.

677
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she gets on the call, guys, how do

678
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 4: y'all feel being older?

679
00:35:59,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: What's her name?

680
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 4: Name is Rebecca?

681
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 2: Rebecca Man, how do you guys feel?

682
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: And Jobby.

683
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, it's scary And I'm like, Rebecca, I'm like,

684
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, like it's so surreal.

685
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

686
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 4: And I love the way God deals with me because

687
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 4: he said, believe.

688
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: It, you believe it.

689
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Studio Beatings that I put you in this position

690
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: because because I'm like, now, because we're looking to expand

691
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: not only in Chicago but in Florida.

692
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 4: And God said, I've already made the way, you know

693
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: what I mean.

694
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 3: But I've always had this faith about God that was

695
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: restored through therapy. Even when I was a kid with

696
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 3: my parents divorced, we grew up in Mississippi, and I

697
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 3: told my mom, I said, you got to get us

698
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: out of here.

699
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 4: And my mom said, baby, I don't know where we're going.

700
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 3: So it was either Memphis because we live North Mississippi,

701
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: which is like an hour from Memphis.

702
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 4: Memphis is just second cousin Mississippy. I said, So we

703
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: went to Texas to visit some of her friends.

704
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 3: And this was in July, for the fourth of July

705
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety six, and I said, Mama, I would

706
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: like to move to Texas. Jay, we ain't moving. My

707
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: mom had a great job. So I started packing stuff

708
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: in the house.

709
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: True story true.

710
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 3: I started packing stuff in the house, boxing it up,

711
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: boxing it up, and my mama came home one day.

712
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: Jay stopped boxing up my stuff. Boy, I said, Mama,

713
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 3: we moving. I said, God said, we moving. Mama, I'm

714
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 3: telling you we're getting out of here. Because I did

715
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: not want to go to ninth grade in Mississippi. Man like,

716
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: I was like, Mama, I do not want to I

717
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: do not want to go to school here. Because my parents'

718
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 3: divorce was so public and there was such shame around it,

719
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: and I knew my mom did not want to stay

720
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: there because she was the first lady and everybody knew

721
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: what had happened when it went down, And I can

722
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: feel her shame even at the age of thirteen. Man,

723
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: my mama came home August tenth. This is my mind

724
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 3: remembers these days. August tenth, she pulled in the yard

725
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: with a U Haul truck. Wow, I said, Mama, she said,

726
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: She said, I said, Mama, what you do?

727
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 4: She had got a severage package from her job.

728
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: Wow.

729
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 3: Her vehicle that she had. She had to give it

730
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 3: back to the job. She couldn't take it out of state.

731
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: And by the time she walked through the house, she said,

732
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: this board and packed up all my stuff. My neighbor

733
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: the month, Lamont Thomas said, came over from the neighborhood.

734
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 3: He was my classmate. He said, JJ, where y'all going.

735
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 3: I said, man, we're going to take He started crying.

736
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: He was like, man, my man, my friend leave it.

737
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: Because he lived directly across the street. He came over

738
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 3: and helped us pack the truck. My mama drove that

739
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: U Haul truck Texas. So my faith has and God

740
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 3: brought me to my faith in therapy. When I started healing,

741
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: he said, remember what I did.

742
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: Remember the same way those takes playback of the bad times.

743
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: You got to remember how God got it you. Yeah,

744
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: that's real.

745
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 4: So I never forget that. And how easily do we forget?

746
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 2: Very easy? Oh my goodness, we get him the real quick.

747
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: But he'll remind you.

748
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 3: Faithful Christ he is even when we're not faithful, even

749
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 3: when we are not on the right path. And I

750
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,919
Speaker 3: had to learn even when we're on the wrong path,

751
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 3: we're on the right path because again he's the author

752
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: the finish it. So you may be over here, don't worry.

753
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: And that's what I love about him, man, that he's

754
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: not he's not he's not sadistic. He's not trying to

755
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 3: punish us and trying to kill us. He's just trying

756
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: to prune us. You know what I'm saying. For assignment,

757
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: So that that that my life is a completely faith journey.

758
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, God, I got faith for everything, but

759
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 3: this whole spouse thing, Like I don't know what's happening

760
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: in that day.

761
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: She's coming, Jaye, We're gonna touch a degree right nowsten.

762
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 3: I need to touch agree with your crystal couse. Everybody's

763
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 3: been saying she's coming. Man, Listen, listen, I'm saying this.

764
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 4: I'm it. Wasn't she come or not? I'm okay, And you.

765
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: Know what I feel like when you get there, she's

766
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna come. That's right me too. I'm like, I'm good.

767
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: I'm good. I'm good, so good.

768
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: That is so true.

769
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: I am good, man, I am good. I'm in my forties, thriving.

770
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

771
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 4: No, I'm in my thirties.

772
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm in my twenties.

773
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: She's twenty five. I'm thirty two. Y'all remember that, thirty two,

774
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: twenty five. So you in my birthday next year and

775
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 3: you go, Jay happy, thirty third.

776
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: There we go.

777
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 3: Do not ask me what my birthday? Well, my numbers,

778
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now it's thirty two.

779
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm at peace, man.

780
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: I love that.

781
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: I'm at peace. Man.

782
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: You have to be.

783
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: I think that's important to find peace wherever you are

784
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: in your life, you know, and then everything that's supposed

785
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 2: to become.

786
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't, Crystal, I ain't worried about nothing, be anxious,

787
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: anxious for nothing, that's it. Pray about everything. Yes, I

788
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: gotta go to bed, baby, because we looking good for

789
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: twenty five thirty two. Listen, and so I don't need

790
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: no bags under my eyes. I got just a little

791
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: great specs.

792
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: This is all my one in my age right here.

793
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: I'll be pulling it out though no I got like,

794
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: is it a gray?

795
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm like no, you like you know, listen, I just

796
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: got a little dash of salt in my beard.

797
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: Other than that, this is none of my hand. Here

798
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: is great. Like I may got a little, but I'm

799
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: not going to let these folk grade me out.

800
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: I know that's right. Listen, because they will. You saw

801
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: I would have no Obama. That man came in with

802
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 2: a full head of black hair and left out.

803
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 4: Hey, that's stress to do it.

804
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: But it will do it. It's a real thing. It's

805
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: a real thing.

806
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Speaking of stress and balance, you have a new book

807
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 2: called Pursuing Pace.

808
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: Oh man, it's all.

809
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:13,520
Speaker 1: About the pace.

810
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 2: People feel like this marathon is about sprinting, but that

811
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: pace is everything.

812
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that.

813
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 3: So Pursuing Pace drops in twenty twenty seven. I signed

814
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: with Pingrain Random House. I'm so excited about this project.

815
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: But this book came about in twenty twenty three. Oh wow,

816
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 3: I was on the road touring, you know, pouring into men,

817
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 3: and I was.

818
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: Sleep literally woke up in my bed, set up in

819
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 4: my bed and.

820
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: Heard pursue pace, and God was telling me to slow now,

821
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: not stop, but slow now. Pace doesn't mean you're going slow.

822
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: It means you have to find a rhythm. Yeah, And

823
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: so I'm excited for people and pace. It's also that

824
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 3: I created a new acronym for it is the pathways

825
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: to alleviating cognitive exhaustion. Most of us are exhausted cognitively

826
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 3: and we cannot make health these decisions because we're so

827
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: tired exhausted. So in this book, man, I am talking

828
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 3: about finding your pace. I'm talking about discovering rhythm. But

829
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: then I'm also talking about not comparing your race to others,

830
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So I think and I'm

831
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: sharing stories because again I'm going back to Bishop. Bishop

832
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: was hard on me when I was on tour. He said,

833
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 3: you better slow down because man, I was just poor

834
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 3: and poor and poored and took sick, took sick.

835
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 4: I was on stage and forgot everything.

836
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: On stage, forgot everything, and had a mental breakdown at

837
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: home and checked myself into an institution in San Diego

838
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 3: and that when it became real at that moment and

839
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: went into the doctor. And I've shared this especially brothers.

840
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: I'm thirty two, but I'm for you brothers that are

841
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: thirty five plus and forty plus go to the doctor

842
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 3: like brothers think just because women are aging. And again,

843
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: you know, I had the opportunity to walk with my mother.

844
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: She's had a hysterectomy. And again I'm the only son

845
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 3: that at the time caring for her perimenopause when it

846
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: started happening. My bachelor's in science and anatomy physiology, so

847
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: I understood the reproductive system and helping her understand because

848
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 3: there was this fear that she had about going to

849
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 3: the doctor and having that procedure. And so what is

850
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: happening with the body is the body is changing hormonally.

851
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: And men think that's just happening to women, but it's

852
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: happened in us. Two brothers, you know what I mean.

853
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,479
Speaker 3: When your testars level starts, the lord starts to dip,

854
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: you see, man breast starts to protrude, that's estrogen.

855
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 4: Because our body is taking a change, you know what

856
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

857
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 3: So what is happening is the woman, the estrogen levels

858
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: are increasing, so which is shifting her harmonally? And if

859
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: she doesn't have a good diet and she doesn't have

860
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: a healthy environment because some things are environmental, and then

861
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: her body begins to shift. So you know, paramental pauses.

862
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: You don't have clarity of thought. How it works for men,

863
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 3: is your test levels drop? The brothers you might want

864
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: to hear this. Your soldier don't start to march and

865
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: he's not standing up. And when your soldier ain't standing up,

866
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 3: he ain't march. And guess what, You're going to fall

867
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: into a depression because your testasion levels are low, your

868
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: testasional level is low.

869
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: You don't have the grit.

870
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 3: So rather than working out or getting up to doing

871
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: stuff yourself, you come home and hop right on the

872
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: couch or you stroll, you know what I mean. So

873
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: my tests and again I've interviewed my doctor on my

874
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 3: show Doctor Jill Phenomenal. I was picking up weight and

875
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 3: I was working out, I was eating right, and I

876
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 3: was just like man and then like I got on

877
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: stage and forgot, I was having this mental breakdown. I

878
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: went in, I took sick because I developed vertigo from traveling.

879
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.

880
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 3: Got on stage to speak, and the whole sanctuary I

881
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: was in the church started spinning. I had to go

882
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 3: to my hotel room and lay down because that vertigo

883
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 3: is something serious.

884
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

885
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 3: I go in my doctor. She gives me something to

886
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 3: help with it. Because I had fluid. I had double

887
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: ear infection. Wow, because I lost forty five percent of

888
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,399
Speaker 3: my hearing in my left ear as a kid, So

889
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: I've always battled with ear infections. I am the worst.

890
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: I go do a full blood panel, go through everything.

891
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: My blood pressure was high and I'm not a person

892
00:46:54,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: who eat bad. Yeah, my cholesterol everything, and Yiel and

893
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 3: that little chair scootered over to me. She tapped me

894
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 3: on his knee because I was sick as a dog.

895
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 4: She said, baby, you sick and your body's breaking down

896
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: on you.

897
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: So the average man test level should be between eight

898
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 3: hundred to twelve hundred. Maximum output for young males is

899
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 3: in your twenties, and it starts to dip after thirty five.

900
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 4: My test levels.

901
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm not shamed to say this because I got stopped

902
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: touring and got in the gym and relieve the stress,

903
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 3: because touring is stressful.

904
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: It is.

905
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,439
Speaker 3: And then I'm speaking into four hundred, five hundred, six

906
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 3: hundred men who've never heard anything about mental health, who's

907
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: letting go of pain trauma that they've been holding on.

908
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 4: And I'm taking all that in.

909
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

910
00:47:54,239 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 3: My test Starship levels was two thirty five. Wow, two

911
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 3: thirty five.

912
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: You said between the eight hundred and.

913
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 3: They should be between eight hundred and twelve hundred two

914
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: thirty five. Yeah, And she said, Jay, you've got to change.

915
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: I didn't take her speaking engagement for four months.

916
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: Good for you.

917
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: And I met my trainer, brnnis out of Florida. When

918
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: Joe went to Florida to pastor and I said, Bro,

919
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: I need some help. And this is a black man

920
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 3: who understand aging. Brother looks phenomen at forty five. Put

921
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 3: me on some natural supplements. Change my eating habits because

922
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: we can't eat the same thing as we're aging.

923
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: We can't. Yeah, even though we're.

924
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: Thirty five, you know what I'm saying, You though we're

925
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 3: twenty five, thirty two. Like you used to get eat

926
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: a cookie at eighteen, wake up shredded.

927
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 4: Listen cookie today you ain't gonna be able to get

928
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 4: on pants tonight?

929
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: Right? Where is the lie?

930
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: So my thing? I had my.

931
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 3: PSA level check, prostate cancer, all that. Brothers, go get

932
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: that stuff checked out.

933
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 4: Man. The average life expectancy of a black man is

934
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: sixty one.

935
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: Point five today, so young, twelve years younger than our counterparts.

936
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 3: White men life expectancy is seventy two point four. Is

937
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: they're living twelve years longer.

938
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 4: Wow. So mental health is physical health.

939
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Pursuing Pace came from that because Bishop said,

940
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 3: if you don't pace yourself, you're not gonna make it.

941
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 3: And that's where that book came from. So I'm breaking

942
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 3: down what exhaustion do. I'm breaking down how to find pace,

943
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 3: how to be comfortable with pace, because I think that

944
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 3: there's a level of patience that you have to exude

945
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: pace because sometimes when we're pacing ourselves, we can feel

946
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: like we're behind. Baby, I ain't chasing nothing. Yeah, if

947
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 3: it don't have a flow, I don't force it. I

948
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: believe like I believe it flowing, not force it. So

949
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,760
Speaker 3: that pursuing pace, Man, I'm so excited about this book.

950
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: Like when we when we got on the call with

951
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 3: Random House, ping a Random House and they read the

952
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,280
Speaker 3: book reposal.

953
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 4: They was like, Jay, we need this book.

954
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 2: Like yesterday, right, So when are we getting it twenty

955
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven.

956
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: That was they was like, we can't.

957
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 3: They was like they wanted to push it out to

958
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, but they was like, twenty twenty seven.

959
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: But I think the timing of it when it releases,

960
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna be perfect.

961
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you gotta take your time with that kind

962
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: of stuff.

963
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: Because by that time, Chris, we would have been in

964
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: this administration about two years. People look at the pace,

965
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 3: we're gonna need it, So we're gonna need it.

966
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: Yes, but I'm excited about that book.

967
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,799
Speaker 3: But I share that to the Brothers man, and now

968
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: my level is like, I mean, like Brenda's man got

969
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 3: me to eat and write. He moved my diet to

970
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: keto and when I'm traveling. When I'm traveling, he was like, keto, man,

971
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: did you get.

972
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: The keto flu? Like you know how people go keto?

973
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: Like? Because when I did my blood work, my body

974
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: responds better to fast, like, responds better to fast avocado

975
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: nuts and stuff like that.

976
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 4: My body responds better to and that man.

977
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 3: Like and because I'm like, I'm working out and doctor

978
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 3: Jill said, your body is in a fight or flight

979
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: because when your stress levels are hot, your body releases

980
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 3: the hormone quartosol, So the cortosol makes you hold on

981
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 3: to everything, so you can be doing hours of cardio.

982
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 4: Every Body is like mm hmmm, yep.

983
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 3: And that's why releasing that stress because I had been

984
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 3: holding on all of those men stories.

985
00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and when I.

986
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: Started releasing that thing, detoxing because I had to learn

987
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 3: how to not take it home. And it was so bad.

988
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 3: Christ one of my friends, came to my house. I

989
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: was just sitting on my floor crying. She's like, she

990
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: didn't even know what to say. I was like, man,

991
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: because I just was carrying all these men and it

992
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 3: was just so hard. But now I got my system.

993
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: I get off stage, baby, if stays right there. Yeah,

994
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 3: I had something come home with me.

995
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 4: One night.

996
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: I had a it was it was a suicide spirit

997
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 3: that a brother had on him. The spiritual folks would

998
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 3: appreciate this. I have a gun in my closet. The

999
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: spirit was so strong. I had to go in my

1000
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: closet because when I go off the road, I go

1001
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 3: on my office and I you know, unpacked clothes. The

1002
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 3: gun was in the closet. I was I didn't want

1003
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: to go in the closet. The spirit was so strong,

1004
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 3: and I was wrestling with it because that was so evasive.

1005
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it was.

1006
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 3: Just like everywhere I turned, I was just hearing his voice. Man,

1007
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't grab that blessed all. I said, listen, I

1008
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: don't know who you came off of. And I remember

1009
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 3: the brother. I can see the brother's face who was

1010
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 3: telling me that he came to the tour that night

1011
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 3: and he was playing on taking his life that night,

1012
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: and he came to the session that night just to

1013
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: see if what I was talking about work.

1014
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: So he gets relieved. And it's because that's a real thing.

1015
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: Now, that's a real thing.

1016
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: So I'm wrestling. I didn't.

1017
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm like.

1018
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 3: I called my mom and by the time I called her,

1019
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 3: you know, she was sleep so and I know how

1020
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: to praise, so I'm like, man, I got that blessed

1021
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: all man by the time she called me.

1022
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 4: I said, baby, I'm good now, because because I couldn't sleep,

1023
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 4: I tried to lay it down.

1024
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: And man, that thing was wrestling man. And my place

1025
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 3: overlooks some water.

1026
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 4: Man.

1027
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 3: I opened the door and it's just a looted to

1028
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 3: come in. I said, listen, I don't know where you

1029
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 3: came from Nigro. You got to get up out of

1030
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: here because I gotta go to bed. I gotta go

1031
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: to bed man and that thing broke, I know, annoying

1032
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 3: at my door, my couch, my clothes. People don't realize

1033
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: these spirits. Mental health is so much spiritual. We often

1034
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: think this stuff is spiritual you because you see people

1035
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: coming to therapy, I know in my and when I

1036
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 3: was practicing, and their entire face had change after the

1037
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 3: session because that thing would have been broken off us.

1038
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 3: Because when that spirit get around some oil or get

1039
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 3: around something that's that's gonna break it off of them

1040
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: and not something that's gonna perpetuate it and feed it.

1041
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: And that's why it's hard for a lot of these

1042
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: people to break these these emotional ties and these trauma

1043
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: bonds and these different times that they have with people

1044
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 3: and experiences. It's because they're around and or they're in

1045
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: an environment that's feeding it.

1046
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: Yep. Because if you feed that.

1047
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 2: Master, listen, and you have to be very cognizant of

1048
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: what you're feeding, because I'm telling you, they'll creep up.

1049
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: You'll be thinking I'm good, I'm good, and then like

1050
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: WHOA where did that come from?

1051
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1052
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: And you just gotta be like man.

1053
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Die daily to the flesh, because they will pop up.

1054
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: They will.

1055
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. I can be around somebody

1056
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 3: right now and I can quickly desern they spirit ain't right.

1057
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna say nothing to you or nothing.

1058
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna go ahead and move around.

1059
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: You feel it, Yeah, Yeah.

1060
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: It's a disturbance.

1061
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

1062
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: I remember when I said, do you feel like it?

1063
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 2: Like sometimes you can be around people you feel that distaste.

1064
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 2: It's also you get that same feeling when people's spirit

1065
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 2: isn't right.

1066
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: I can it's lily like a something just ain't right

1067
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: and I don't like it. Yeah, and I have to

1068
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: stay away from people like that. I can't do it.

1069
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 2: But you feel it, especially when you really tapped tim

1070
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: with the Lord. He not even gonna let them get

1071
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 2: too close to you. He's gonna let you feel and

1072
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: you be like, okay, and.

1073
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 4: Then he's gonna let your spirit discern it.

1074
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 3: And as I said, we all need to be operated

1075
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 3: with the level of sagacity, just sophisticated way of saying desernment.

1076
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: Yes, but we.

1077
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: Have to operate with that man absolutely, because there are

1078
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 3: some people that the enemy is planting.

1079
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they know your assignment, the devil, know what

1080
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: God wants you to do.

1081
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 1: So he's like, oh, oh he really serious about the Lord.

1082
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh she really okay, So she's taking this serious now

1083
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: like I had her last year.

1084
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: She was straddling.

1085
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,919
Speaker 2: I had a one foot in and one foot out.

1086
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: Oh but she for real. Now that's when he really be.

1087
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: Like, let me see how serious you are, and he

1088
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: will come at you.

1089
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 2: Listen, he tried to sink in. Yes, Dad dropped my

1090
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 2: phone on my foot. I said, all right, Lord, I

1091
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 2: heard you. I said, good Lord, get your attention real

1092
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: quid barefoot too.

1093
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: That thing hurt. I said, I got it.

1094
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 4: But.

1095
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: Listen, gotta get your TENTIONU real quick. I said, I

1096
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 2: got it.

1097
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:14,759
Speaker 4: I got it.

1098
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: That would be no, but you serious. I'm telling y'all.

1099
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 3: God.

1100
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: And it was so.

1101
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: I didn't have nothing in my hands. I was just

1102
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: walking to the bathroom when the thought came.

1103
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: And my phone went Bamo's high. Okay, Now that was

1104
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: too quick. I was like, got it. It was like

1105
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: one of impossible. You don't you do that.

1106
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh man, oh man, oh my gosh, man.

1107
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 3: When I tell you our lives are so parallel. Man, geez,

1108
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, it's so parallel.

1109
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 4: No, seriously is man.

1110
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: Because it's been like twin Where have you been? Like,

1111
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 2: I'm like YouTube, it's like Spider Man like, oh man,

1112
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 2: I have really enjoyed.

1113
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 3: Man, this has been awesome. Thank you.

1114
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: In closing, I have one last question, Jay, how are

1115
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: you feeling today?

1116
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: I'm feeling restored, man, I'm feeling restored.

1117
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 3: Uh. I came here with my friend Crystal and we

1118
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 3: were able to bless the good people. Hope something that

1119
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 3: would share has inspired you. But I feel encouraged to

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00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 3: meet a woman of your caliber that's on this beautiful

1121
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 3: journey of blessing people, inspiring people, motivating them all the things.

1122
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 3: But just to see a woman who's authentically herself in

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00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,439
Speaker 3: her vein and you're doing it with God. Oh man,

1124
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 3: that's so like you know what I mean, that's so dope.

1125
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 3: And so I'm just I just feel, you know, like

1126
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 3: I said, I feel like I can run on because, uh,

1127
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: you know, the past couple of weeks have been very

1128
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 3: challenging for me emotionally, and again it's I'm not in

1129
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: a bad place, but emotionally today I feel like my

1130
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: tank has been feeled my cup has been filled, just

1131
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 3: to have a conversation with someone who.

1132
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: Gets it absolutely.

1133
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 2: And I love that you feel that way because a

1134
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: lot of times you can like feel somebody else up

1135
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 2: and you feel depleted.

1136
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: But I feel full as well. So thanks, oh man, this.

1137
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 4: We were equally pouring today. Yeah, yeah, so this is.

1138
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: Great, amazing all right, So we're going to do positive outcomes.

1139
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: We haven't done this in a while, so we thought

1140
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 2: this would be a great time to do it with King.

1141
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: With doctor Jay Barnett. We got a doctor in a house, y'all.

1142
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: He can really give us some good advice.

1143
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 2: Tammy Coleman writes, have you ever denied your faith due

1144
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: to it possibly affecting your career or a role? Your

1145
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: walk with Christ is very encouraging and touches a lot

1146
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 2: of people. Have you ever struggled with accepting a role

1147
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 2: or opportunity because it didn't align with your faith? Or

1148
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 2: have you wanted to bring faith in God into a character?

1149
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: I was raising holiness all my life. The struggle is real, Tammy.

1150
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: That is a great question. I've never denied my faith.

1151
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: I've always bring my faith into every character. Now I

1152
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: have denied a role because it did not align with

1153
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: my faith. There are certain things I just won't do,

1154
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: you know. I have my hard lines in the same

1155
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: where these are the places I won't cross one because

1156
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 2: stuff lives out there forever and now in the world

1157
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 2: of AI, they can take something and be like, wait,

1158
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 2: I didn't do that, and like did you or did

1159
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: you not? You know, because it looks so real now

1160
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: you can't really tell. So I'm very mindful and cognizant

1161
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: of the things that I will allow to be seen

1162
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: on my body on camera or the roles. I won't

1163
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: do anything demonic unless it is something that draws back

1164
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: to Christ, you know, Like I won't play films like

1165
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: that unless it has to come back around and say

1166
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,479
Speaker 2: that because we do deal with those demons are.

1167
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: Real imitation man, Yes, it's life.

1168
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like I want to be really careful with that.

1169
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 2: I don't do like horror stuff. I want everything I

1170
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 2: do to have some type of redemptive story, you know,

1171
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 2: even certain roles on play I'm like, okay, like the

1172
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 2: movie I just did. What lesson are people taking from this?

1173
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: How are we changing lives? Yes, this is something that

1174
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 2: really happens, but the way it ends it just kind

1175
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: of leads us like that was horrific, but what message

1176
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: are we going to give to them? So we end

1177
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: up changing the ending. But it's things like that, like

1178
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: really having an input and saying, hey, when this thing

1179
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: goes black at the end of the credits role, we

1180
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 2: want people to feel changed. So I'm really big on that.

1181
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: And also, yes, of course, bringing faith and God into

1182
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: a character. We just did this season nine of Sisters. Deval,

1183
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 2: who plays Zach, was going through something and he had

1184
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: just lost a child on the show, and.

1185
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 1: For team was trying everything.

1186
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 2: She tried to make his favorite tacos, and she tried

1187
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 2: to seduce him, like all the things, and then finally

1188
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 2: she just looks up and she grabs the Bible and

1189
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 2: was like this is what you need, you know. And

1190
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 2: those are the ways that we bring faith in God

1191
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 2: into the characters. But yeah, definitely, but nothing is worth

1192
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: sacrificing or sabotaging my relationship with Christ over a role

1193
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 2: or anything. And that's something that even as I grow

1194
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: closer to God, just being like very aware of the

1195
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 2: roles that I take on. Because you're an actor as well,

1196
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: so you understand like sometimes like how you talk about

1197
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: we empty ourselves and bring on so we can live

1198
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 2: fully in that character, also understanding certain characters we just

1199
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: cannot take on because the soul doesn't know the difference.

1200
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: My mind don't either, you know, because when you really

1201
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 2: started like, oh we crazy.

1202
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, man, anything you want to

1203
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: add to.

1204
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: That, Yeah, I just the film that I have coming

1205
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 3: out next year, Harry Hines.

1206
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 4: I play.

1207
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 3: It's two roles, and so one I'm this loving husband

1208
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: who's trying to become a detective. But then it's an

1209
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 3: AI sci fi film and so but on the other end,

1210
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't know that my wife was a part of

1211
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 3: this team because they basically planned to chipping me to

1212
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: rea ability to rehabilitate me. So when the character shifts

1213
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 3: back to who he really is, I'm basically the psychopath.

1214
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's interesting.

1215
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 3: So I took a lot of prayer, like because you know,

1216
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: I have a very you know, gory scene of taking

1217
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: somebody's life and and he Sadarius is I mean, he's

1218
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 3: a killer and he enjoys it. And man, let me

1219
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 3: tell you, I had to pray about two weeks after

1220
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 3: that after yeah, because you know, it was intense during

1221
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 3: the process and It's a great film by Q and

1222
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 3: Coder uh team that I'm excited for people to see.

1223
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 3: Harry Hines is his famous street in Dallas where prostitution, drug, anything,

1224
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,919
Speaker 3: you name it, you can find on Harry Heines.

1225
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:00,439
Speaker 1: Oh wow.

1226
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, it is a great film. But that that

1227
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: is so real. And I took it because I wanted

1228
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: to be stretched. You know what I'm saying.

1229
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, in in in my space of acting. Uh so.

1230
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 3: But but I'm with you, man, like just certain things

1231
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 3: that I'm not gonna do.

1232
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I just uh, you know.

1233
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 3: Demonic stuff like I just because when you think about

1234
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 3: like when you think about a Lea, right, I always

1235
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: think about her role in.

1236
01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: The Queen of Down like and that was her last

1237
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: that was her last role.

1238
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that, you know, I'm not, don't

1239
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: you all take I'm just saying like, I would.

1240
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 4: Never forget that.

1241
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1242
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:45,959
Speaker 3: And I remember because I was a huge elea fan god,

1243
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: a huge live fan.

1244
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 4: Four page letter man a god.

1245
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,919
Speaker 1: I used to do the beat on the lunchroom table man.

1246
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 3: Listen, I could listen. I would write listen. I would

1247
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 3: have write a four page letter to somebody listen right now.

1248
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 3: But but but that thought always come to me, Crystal,

1249
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: like yeah, because just that art imitation of lit it

1250
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 3: lives on, you know, because I'll.

1251
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 4: Be thinking, what did you open the door to?

1252
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: That's real? What did you open the door too?

1253
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: Because we hear we've heard so many actors say like

1254
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 2: I think Damnseon talked about it like now they kind

1255
01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: of scared me. I was like, you did what like

1256
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 2: inviting so that you can invite? Oh yeah, because now

1257
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: you need deliverance.

1258
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you gotta be real.

1259
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 3: I remember when I was when when Sedaris was having

1260
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 3: a scene and the director CJ. You know, they was

1261
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: asking me what I wanted to listen to, And I

1262
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 3: can remember myself being on second we filmed like seven

1263
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: straight days, fourteen hour days, and I was listening to

1264
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 3: Scarface the Hands of a Dead Body, and I had

1265
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: to keep it on repeat to go into.

1266
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 1: That space because naturally that's not what you are.

1267
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying to to just walk

1268
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 3: up to some joking and just yea and my poor

1269
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: mama boy, She's say, boy, you always got me praying for.

1270
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,479
Speaker 1: Like need something else now?

1271
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I like that's why I rock with you, man,

1272
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 3: because I respect what you representing, what you stand for.

1273
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: Because some people just like just whatever role.

1274
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'll do whatever. Yeah, No, how can I

1275
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 1: serve the character?

1276
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: No?

1277
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, because like you said, we got to go

1278
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 3: home at night, we have to go some of these

1279
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: stuff go home with you, Yes, asked Heath.

1280
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: Legend exactly, and we can't. Now you know what I'm saying.

1281
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 3: God is so phenomenal actor and he even talked about

1282
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 3: about that role.

1283
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it stays with you. Yeah, and that's that's so true.

1284
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's that's what I was Tammy Coleman, thank

1285
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 2: you so much for writing in But that was a

1286
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 2: great add on.

1287
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 4: Who do you have so Wes.

1288
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 3: Wes said, I had a mental breakdown five years ago

1289
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 3: during the pandemic. I didn't know what was happening to me.

1290
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 3: I sought therapy and was blessed to find two female therapists.

1291
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,439
Speaker 3: In the past five years, I have grown so much

1292
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 3: during that time, but I feel like something is still missing. Recently,

1293
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 3: I have been pondering if a male therapist would feel

1294
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: that missing piece. Not sure if it's the delivery or perspective.

1295
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 3: I would like to hear your advice on the difference

1296
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 3: when it comes to male and female therapists.

1297
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 4: That's good, oh man, Wes, that's good.

1298
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: For one, I want to say, I want to if

1299
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 3: you're a brother, you know, a man, because again people

1300
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 3: names Wes, And for one, I commend you on going

1301
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 3: to therapy and seeking out help.

1302
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 4: But I want to.

1303
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 3: Say, if you feel that you're still missing something, I

1304
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 3: think that may be an opportunity for you to Lord,

1305
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 3: what do you feel that you're missing as it pertains

1306
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 3: to the identity of the therapist, because sometimes I've seen therapists,

1307
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 3: like most of my clients were at one point in time,

1308
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 3: black females in the C suites, and they would come

1309
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: to me because a lot of times when they felt

1310
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,160
Speaker 3: when they were with another female therapist, they felt judged.

1311
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 3: They often felt not heard, and then sometimes it was

1312
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 3: triggering to either a mother womb or a sister womb,

1313
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if they had a bad

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Speaker 3: experience with some woman that you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So it sounds like you may and maybe the delivery

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Speaker 3: from a male sort of close some gaps from some

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Speaker 3: experiences that you had with the male or experience that

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Speaker 3: you are looking to have because I know my therapist

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Speaker 3: now is a female who I love, and I think

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Speaker 3: that she's also pouring and helping me heal a different

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Speaker 3: piece even in some mother areas, you know what I mean. So,

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Speaker 3: and then when I first started, I had a male

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Speaker 3: that spoke to the sun and me. So maybe what

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Speaker 3: you're looking for is for some gaps to be closed

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Speaker 3: as it retains to where you are, you know, in

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Speaker 3: your life as a man.

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Speaker 4: If that's you know, you know what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: That's so good, And I think it goes back to

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Speaker 2: what you said, how you said you weren't with the

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Speaker 2: same therapist that you had before. Sometimes it's good to

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Speaker 2: change as you evolve. So if I feel like you're right,

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Speaker 2: if he is missing something, he needs to first identify

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Speaker 2: what that is he's missing and then try to move

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Speaker 2: from that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for writing in. Continue to

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Speaker 2: do that. We look forward to hearing what you have

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Speaker 2: to say and the questions you have to ask.

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Speaker 1: Let the people know where we can find you on socials.

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Speaker 2: If there's anything we need to support you want to

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Speaker 2: let us know if you have something coming up that

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Speaker 2: we didn't touch on.

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Speaker 4: No listen King J. Barnett on Instagram.

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Speaker 3: X if y'all still use it Facebook threads, but listen

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Speaker 3: to my podcast Just Healed with Doctor J on the

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Speaker 3: same network as my friend Crystal The Black Effect. It

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Speaker 3: is an amazing podcast and I talk about all things

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Speaker 3: healing mental health. I mean, just an amazing space to

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Speaker 3: dive deeper into conversations centered around mental health. A new

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Speaker 3: episode drops every Tuesday and then you can watch visually

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Speaker 3: on our Just Heal with Doctor J on YouTube page.

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Speaker 2: So awesome, amazing, We'll definitely tap in with you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yes, great, amazing, My goodness.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: That was such a powerful conversation and a reminder.

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Speaker 2: That healing doesn't mean perfection, it means being honest enough

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Speaker 2: to start. Thank you guys so much for tuning into

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Speaker 2: another episode of Keep It Positive, sweetie. Make sure to subscribe,

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Speaker 2: like and leave a review, and also share this with

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Speaker 2: someone who could use a little positivity in.

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Speaker 1: The meantime in between time. Keep it positive, sweeties. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you guys next time.