1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: The following episode was recorded before the WGA sag Aftra 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: strikes of twenty twenty three. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 2: When the war broke out in Ukraine last year, I, 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: like most of the world, felt completely overwhelmed and concerned 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: for the fact that at this point in our civilization, 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: we were so willing to start killing each other again. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: I was concerned about the people of Ukraine certainly, and 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: concerned about this terror that Putin was reigning down on 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: this country. So my organization six Degrees held a fund 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,599 Speaker 2: raising event at a brewery in DC. It was kind 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: of an inspirational place because it was a restaurant that 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,959 Speaker 2: was owned by Russians and had Ukrainian employees, and they 13 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: felt the need to stand up for their employees and 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: for the people of Ukraine. And so we played an 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: impromptu show with our band, the Bacon Brothers, and it 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: was a great day. So in today's episode, I had 17 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: the chance to sit down with a father and a son. 18 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 2: Maxim Chimerkovsky is known for his moves on Dancing with 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: the Stars, but more than that, he and his dad 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 2: are the founders of an organization that is providing much 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: needed aid to those most affected by the war in 22 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Ukraine and now a year later, their organization is more 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: critical than ever. This is why we do what we do. 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: So lean in. 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: I'm really glad you're here. 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, folks, we literally have a star, an actual Dancing 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: with the Stars star here today on the podcast. Thank 28 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: you so much for being here. Maxim Chermikowsky. Welcome to 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: the show. 30 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Thank you. I can believe you call 31 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 3: me a star. I will take that. And I hope 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: this is recorded. 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: So absolutely for I mean, this is the this is 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 2: the amazing thing about you is that it's one thing. 35 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: I mean, the whole idea of that of that show, 36 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: right is that you bring stars on and and that 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: you know that. But when you you you took that 38 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: and turns you turns yourself. You're the You're the story there, 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: You're the You're the draw. It's it's it's a fantastic accomplishment. 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 41 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 4: I think it's a it was unfair to the celebrities 42 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: when the show came out and it became a success, 43 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 4: it turned into Max this guy being on TV consecutively 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: for seventeen seasons where celebrity comes in for one at 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 4: a time, and I feel like it wasn't something that 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 4: I was. 47 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: Reaching or striving for. 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 4: I never came to Hollywood with intention of being in Hollywood. 49 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 4: I came because I was a dancer and there was 50 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 4: a dance job that I was invited to do. So 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: here we are almost what is it, twenty. 52 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 3: Tee? Almost twenty years later. 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 2: That's amazing. That's amazing, man. But listen, let me tell you. 54 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You feel bad for the celebrities. But the 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: celebrities can handle it is they get. Don't feel the good, 56 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: don't feel too bad. You know, we all have our 57 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,119 Speaker 2: path to take in this business. It's a it's a 58 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: tough business. It's a tough business to be an actor. 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:20,519 Speaker 2: It's got to be a really tough business to be 60 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: a dancer. I mean, tell me what you how did 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: you define yourself in I mean, go, let's go back 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: to to your childhood and to the first time you 63 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: started to dance. I'm really fascinated in that journey. 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 4: I mean, it's a it's a great story, but it's 65 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: not an individual story. And maybe you'll tell that towards 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: the end of our conversation. Is that you know, I'm 67 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 4: that guy, you know with that type of family. I 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: have that type of upbringing. You know, it's not a 69 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: stardom thing. It's not a you know, I can sound 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 4: a little however, you know TV may present me, but. 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 3: You know, we grew up very normal. You know, let's 72 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: call it that. 73 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: I am from Odessa, Ukraine. I was born in nineteen 74 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 4: eighty and I was born to two very regular Soviet 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 4: Union young parents and they were both nineteen. 76 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: At the time. WoT they didn't know what to do 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: with me? 78 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: I guess I keep saying it to my parents, but mom, 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 4: kids deny its. It's like, no, we had a plan, 80 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 4: but no, they honestly, they just said they followed very 81 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 4: simple formula. If you limit child's free time, he probably 82 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 4: will get in less trouble. And so at four years old, 83 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: I was you know, given into the what was called 84 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: School of Aesthetic Education, and it was about growing up 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 4: a nice. 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 3: Boy, you know, a little prince, little princess. 87 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 4: And as part of it was ballroom dancing. But it 88 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: was at that time the first summer ballroom danced. 89 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: For like banners, like you learn manners, you learn ballroom dancing. 90 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 2: It's kind of like exactly a little little princess and 91 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: princess and white gloves and that kind of stuff. I 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 2: get it. Were your parents were they artists or dancers themselves? 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 4: No, not at all, absolutely zero. As a matter of fact, 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 4: it's so funny that we're having this conversation, but my 95 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 4: mom actually had her first dance competition last night. 96 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: So well it's long story too. 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: Where can I see that? 98 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know, all these years later. 99 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 4: So so Mike, just a quick version is that, you know, 100 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 4: shortly after I joined this sort of overall academy, you know, 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 4: and then eventually, at five years old, I went to 102 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 4: school and you know, I believe now, what I know 103 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 4: now is that there was you know, boys have always 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 4: been in shortage and short supply, especially in ballroom dancing, 105 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 4: because girls want to do it, boys want to do 106 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 4: other things. So, you know, I was picked out of 107 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: a class group of us. Somebody walked in and said 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: how about this one, dow one and that one, and 109 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 4: they literally selected five boys and we were being in 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: and our parents were offered, hey, why don't they join actual. 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: Ballroom dance school and learn ballroom dancing? Okay? 112 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: And my parents said sure, And the next thing I know, 113 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: I am, you know, twenty years old, I'm in the 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 4: United States. We've immigrated, I am representing US, you know, 115 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 4: I'm a world finalist, so on and so forth. So 116 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 4: that journey was crazy. But I never had aspirations of 117 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: being a dancer. I never wanted to be a dancer. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 4: I still kind of confused why I'm been dancing for 119 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 4: the last thirty six years. I ended up wanting to 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 4: be finding a small window of passion in chemistry and biology. 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 3: However, when we immigrated. 122 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 4: To US, and I grew up in Brooklyn, New York 123 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: since the nineties, when it was time to go to university, 124 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 4: I had a choice to make. So I went to 125 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 4: university for one year and realize that I have a 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 4: career opportunity right here, you know, in dance, and and 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: at that time, I was already, you know, a high 128 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: rank dance professional in the world as well. 129 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my question is that if you were 130 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: you know, if you're an actor, I guess you're shooting 131 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: for an oscar or something like that. I'm still shooting, right, 132 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: and uh, but if you're a dancer, a ballroom dancer specifically, 133 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 2: what what is the what's the what's the thing you're 134 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: shooting for? And and and can you I'm sure you 135 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: do great on you know, uh dance with the stars, 136 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: But is there a way to make a living as 137 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: a ballroom dancer. 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just. 139 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 4: Leading me into a perfect sort of path of my life. 140 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 4: But yeah, that was a reality first of all, where 141 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 4: I'm a circuit, a ballroom dance circuit. Uh, it's the 142 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 4: same as tennis or figure skating, if you will, minus 143 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: the Olympics and high pay checks. But I have we 144 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 4: were saying this a long time when dancing the start 145 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 4: just started, and all these red carpets and in these 146 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,119 Speaker 4: interviews and who are you where are you from? 147 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: We were laughing. 148 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: I was signing autographs in Germany and Asia, you know, 149 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: Europe and Asia, where it's been popular all all these 150 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 4: years since we were seventeen, you know, so we you know, 151 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: we have a raking system. I was in seventy two 152 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 4: countries participating of you know, in the World Ballroom Circuit 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 4: if you will, Federation in the nineties when I immigrated 154 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: with my family in ninety four, and at that time, 155 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 4: the United States was very slow and small, very very 156 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 4: small participant in the world ballroom dancing. They had virtually 157 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 4: no children dancing, so there would be no adults come now, 158 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: and with my wave of immigration, specifically me, I opened 159 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: my first dance studio when I was seventeen, so just 160 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 4: a few years later, we spent the late nineties building 161 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: the ballroom community here in the United States consisting of us, 162 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 4: the kids, and the youth coming up. And so it's 163 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 4: very interesting because when Dancing with the Stars came to 164 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 4: us again, ballroom was an unknown, sort of underground circuit. 165 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 3: I didn't want to do the show. 166 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: I was what you said, you know, I was sort 167 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: of like blinds on and I was going for a 168 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 4: world championship title and at in ninety for the two 169 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 4: thousand and five, two thousand and six, when you were 170 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: when Dancing with the Stars came to us at that time, 171 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 4: at the end of my what ended up being at 172 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 4: the end of my career. At that time, I didn't 173 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: know that was never going to come back. But I 174 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 4: joined Dancing with the Stars being ranked fourth in US, 175 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 4: served first in US, and top six in the world 176 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 4: in professional Latin American dancing. 177 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 3: And that's it. That's the end of my story. I've 178 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 3: been everywhere in the world. I competed everywhere. 179 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 4: I mostly since then, since ninety four, I represented United States. 180 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: I carried the flag. My brother is my student. He's 181 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 4: six years younger. 182 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: How many how many siblings? How many siblings do you have? 183 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: That's it just. 184 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 2: Your brother and you brought what's the age difference? 185 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: Six years? He's six years younger. 186 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 4: He actually also, you know, continued the Schmikovsky tradition of 187 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars after he retired from his competitive career. 188 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: Also between in his mid twenties, he joined Dancing with 189 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 4: the Stars and he is actually right now currently with 190 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 4: my wife rehearsing for the finale of ongoing season thirty 191 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: one of Dancing the Stars. 192 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so you're so your wife is your wife 193 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: is a dancer? 194 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,479 Speaker 4: My wife is a dancers. Her name is Peter Murgatroyd. 195 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 4: She's also someone I met on Broadway and she's been 196 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: Dancing with the Stars professional for the last ten plus years. 197 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: My question is, my brother's wife is also Dancing with 198 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: the Stars professional gym. 199 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: So it's so interesting to me that it's a that 200 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: it's a family tradition, but that but the tradition now 201 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 2: starts with you. You know. It's interesting because in my family, 202 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 2: one the generation that I'm in the generation before mine 203 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 2: had absolutely no actors, no musicians, no artists, and then 204 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, one generation down my cousins or actors, directors, 205 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: my brother's a musician. Like there's like there's tons of us. 206 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: And then it continued down. But it started like at 207 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: that moment. And I think that's such an interesting thing 208 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: because generally, you know, in the in the world, you 209 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: kind of think of a pretorships being handed down. And 210 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 2: also a lot of people talk and I think sometimes 211 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 2: I think this is thrown around a little bit too 212 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: much where they say, well, it's in your blood. You know, 213 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: it's in your blood. It's in your blood. But I 214 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: mean you're a good example of No, it's in the work. 215 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 2: It's in the work that you put in, not in 216 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 2: whatever you know you have given you've gotten from your parents. 217 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: It's the it's the parental focus on how hard this 218 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 2: work is going to be. 219 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 4: I would think it's a lot of leadership starting with 220 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 4: your parents, you know, and it's a lot of commitment, 221 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 4: you know, to the family. 222 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 3: A lot of people in. 223 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 4: The last some years, let's not dwell, but you know, 224 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 4: I think that you know, family went away from being 225 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 4: super involved with one another to kind of like, you know, 226 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: here's how you should be as a child, Here's how 227 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: I should be as a parent. That's you know, it's 228 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 4: kind of like these blanketed statements, right. So my parents 229 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: were were not like I don't think they were like 230 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 4: everyone else. I think they were just very specific because 231 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 4: they gave it their all. 232 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: And and I want to be that parent. 233 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 4: Uh And I feel like I wanted to say when 234 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: you were saying about, you know, the generation that becomes 235 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: artists and goes into the and that generation in that direction. 236 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: You know, those things happen in good times, you know. 237 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: And and again reason for this conversation is unfortunately very 238 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: bad situation. 239 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 3: Uh. 240 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 4: And and that's the region Ukraine at that time, in 241 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 4: the mid nineties where my parents who made a decision 242 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: to take my brother and I at that time I 243 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: was fourteen in QS eight to the place where there 244 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 4: would be enough stability where they can become something else. 245 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: And and and the opportunities have become for me and 246 00:13:55,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: my brother to make a lot of money, to be successful, 247 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: to provide foundation. 248 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 3: You know. 249 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 4: At one point I was the bread winner in the 250 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 4: entire family. And that was and we were happy about 251 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: that because there was a huge opportunity here, so you know, 252 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 4: I think that it goes to show that, you know, 253 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: I wouldn't. 254 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: I would. 255 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 4: I'm always in debt, indebted to my parents no matter what. 256 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 4: I'm forty two now and my own family, but I 257 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: will always be indebted to my parents. And I always 258 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 4: say that my accomplishments are mostly my parents, you know, 259 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: doing my son, my kids accomplishment I will take credit for, 260 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 4: you know, because I'm giving all of mine too, to 261 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 4: my parents. 262 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question I want to get. 263 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to get to Ukraine and the work that 264 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: you're doing, which is, you know, spectacular. But I have 265 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: two questions. One is you have a son. I was 266 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: going to ask you and what happened? How old is 267 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 2: your son? 268 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: He's turning six in January six. 269 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: What happens if he says to you, you know what, 270 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 2: that I really don't want to dance? He already did. 271 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: Oh okay, he already did. 272 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 3: We started him young, at three years old. 273 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 4: We gave him into our friends here in Hollywood that 274 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: have a dance studio. Because number one, I will never 275 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: be a coach to my children. 276 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: I am. I've been a coach to kids, will never 277 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: I want to be. I want to be and I 278 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: will never be the parent on the sideline like Yelly. 279 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 4: I will be the guy in the back watching the 280 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 4: teacher teaching my kids because I know you know how 281 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 4: to see that. But between dance and soccer, again, we follow. 282 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: The same formula of my parents dead. 283 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 4: He's in dance, soccer, karate, some you know, great school 284 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: with tourists coming home. 285 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: You know. 286 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: I want him to be at the time when he's 287 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 4: the most able to you know, kind of like taking information. 288 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 4: Give it to him, give him all the information they 289 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 4: can give. But I did ask him one time and said, hey, 290 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: you know we're driving. I'm like, what do you What 291 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: do you like? He said, Papa really don't like dancing. 292 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: I'm like, let me ask a different question. I'm thinking 293 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 4: in my head, I'm like, you a great at dance, 294 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: you great a karate rated disc out of everything if 295 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: you could. 296 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: He's inter rob music, pop. 297 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: I don't want to dance like I just don't like dancing. 298 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: Can I just tell you my daughter told me the 299 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: same thing, and now she's doing very very well as 300 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: an actress. 301 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 4: So and you know what I said, I said, I'm 302 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 4: just gonna stop asking you at the moment. 303 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That's great. 304 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: He knows that we really. 305 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 4: Damnce on Saturdays, and for now I'll take it. 306 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: Good for you. But it sounds like you've got a 307 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: very healthy approach to that those kinds of things, because 308 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I've never been the kind of 309 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: parent who would sit there and scream at a kid 310 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 2: because he just struck out, you know, I mean, I 311 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: I just that's just not not my thing. By the way, 312 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: speaking of which, are do you do other things athletically? 313 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: I mean, are you Are you doing any plenty sports. 314 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Or anything every sport but not obviously on a professional level, 315 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 4: which I wish I would at this point. Paychecks are different, 316 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 4: But no, I am. I'm in the gym almost every day. 317 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 4: Like I'm trying to I'm trying to lead by example. Again, 318 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 4: at four, a professional dancer, we can still get up 319 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: and do an hour and a half to act, you know, 320 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 4: live performance. I'm an anomaly, you know, at my age 321 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 4: forty two years old. You know, I retire from competitive 322 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 4: ballroom dancing at twenty five. 323 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 3: So I retired. 324 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: So that goes to show where careers are and how 325 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 4: we are, you know, how we do this. 326 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: I'm trying to at the very least do that for 327 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: as long as I can. 328 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: So the joints are good, the everything's everything's feeling okay. 329 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: Everything's real. 330 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: I like I said, my chemistry, biology is my passion 331 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 4: in regenerative addison, in you know things that Lebron James 332 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 4: and Tom Brady are still on. I'm the guy who's 333 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: going to do that in dance, That's what I believe. 334 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, I want to get to Ukraine, which is your 335 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 2: home country. Now, you were there when the war broke out? 336 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: Is that correct? This is what I've been told? Correct, 337 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 2: Take take me through that. I mean, first off, how 338 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 2: did you just happen to be there? And also I 339 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 2: just I can't imagine what that must have been like. 340 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: About eleven years ago, I was deep in dancing with 341 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 4: the star's career and here in US, and and I 342 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 4: have not been back to Ukraine by that time for 343 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 4: about thirteen years. 344 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: I just got an. 345 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 4: Offer for to be the Ukrainian Bachelor. The show was 346 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 4: coming to your grade, and they kind of like went 347 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: around the globe and they needed probably representative that's both 348 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: bilingual and very sort of like you know, kind of 349 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: that type of figure. I said no so many times 350 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 4: it was crazy, and they finally said, you know what, 351 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: We're going to fly out and meet with you and 352 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 4: talk to you in person. 353 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: And that these two ladies came out a producer. The guy. 354 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: They were like, you're the guy. You can't say no. 355 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: We're going to make an offer you can't refuse. 356 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 3: They told me. They told me different. 357 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: They said, you know, the situation currently in that part 358 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 4: of the world is that, you know, the the twenty 359 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 4: five women to one man is pretty relevant, and what 360 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 4: that gives men is the you know, men are sort 361 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: of like they have the opportunities, rights, whatever you want 362 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: to call it, but they allow themselves certain ways with 363 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 4: women that women allow because there's no other choice. And 364 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 4: you know, raise a hand, that's stuff. And so what 365 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: they wanted is they wanted someone who's us but with 366 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 4: outside perspectives, and they wanted a night in shining Armor 367 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 4: to come and show these women that there are men 368 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: that aren't like that. 369 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: And at that moment, I was like, I'm your guy. 370 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 2: No pressure, there's no pressure at all, no pressure at all. 371 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 4: I wrapped that flag and I was like, I'm in 372 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: show me what my horses. So I was one hundred 373 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: percent committed to an opportunity like that. The first minute 374 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: of our first episode, the first you know, filming, I 375 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: realized it was a horrible mistake. I mean, I made 376 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: a horrible decision. This is not me and this is terrible. 377 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: But I was already committed. So you know, I kept 378 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 4: my my TV career while I was building stuff here 379 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: in US. I kept my TV career in Ukraine for 380 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 4: the last ten years plus and in the last but 381 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 4: then twenty fourteen and onwards, things have changed. 382 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: And I had no idea. 383 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: Why, because I was already over, not already because I 384 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 4: was here and like the rest of us, we were 385 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 4: too far away from that beginning conflict to give it 386 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 4: any bit more attention than. 387 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 3: The rest of the world did, right, And so. 388 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 4: Got to I made some arrangements and it was amazing 389 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 4: because I met some people, and you know, my career 390 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: took off in Ukraine and right before the war began. 391 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: Last year pole season, I was a judge on Dancing 392 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 4: with the Stars in Ukraine and one Channel, and in 393 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: January February we were filming a TV show called World 394 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 4: of Dance when I was also a judge. 395 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: So when you're living in Ukraine full time or will 396 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 2: you go back and forth? 397 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 4: I live in Malletable full time with my family, so 398 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, this was just post pandemic coming out of it. 399 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: The opportunities were scarce and I had an incredible one, 400 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 4: so I took it. 401 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: It was very hard because again the distances. 402 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: Are crazy, but. 403 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: But it was. It was amazing. 404 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 4: And in February I was just waking up to go film. 405 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 3: I wasn't waking up. 406 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 4: I would have woken up, but I was walking up 407 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 4: at five am and my friend who's a TV personality 408 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: in Ukraine as well, who's my friend from a long 409 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: time ago, And it was that call. It's like, hey, 410 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 4: you don't panic, but get up, just back your bags. 411 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 4: And then I'm getting loose bumps as I'm saying. 412 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: This, and I'm like, what are you talking About's five am? 413 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 4: It's like the war has begun, but don't panic like this, 414 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 4: Like I'm like, wait what and and and the next 415 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: thing I heard there is the sirens And then I 416 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 4: was like, this was the sheer panic. 417 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 3: So I spent. 418 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: You know that this was a possibility. Was it was? 419 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: It was? It in on on the top of people's 420 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: minds that this this could this could happen any day. 421 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: Now, absolutely, I mean the it was both. It was both. 422 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 3: It was an. 423 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: Eerie calm and sensation that the entire country was saying, look, 424 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 4: we are in this sort of brewing moment for the last. 425 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 3: Eight years, right, it's been since. 426 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: Twenty fourteen initial onslaught and then when when you know, 427 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 4: Putin came in and grabbed Crimea and part of. 428 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 3: The eastern UK, eastern your career, and that was confusing. 429 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: For everybody, you know, and then after that it was 430 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: a long period of back and so it never nobody 431 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 4: knew when it was going to begin. A lot of 432 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: people knew it was going to happen, but when I 433 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 4: was coming. As a matter of fact, I was on 434 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: February fourteenth for Valentine's There, I was here, I was 435 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 4: in the US, and my wife went in tears. She 436 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 4: was driving me to the airport on February twentieth to 437 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: fly to Ukraine when already all the Russian troops were 438 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: already being accumulated. Wow, and I still but on the 439 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,959 Speaker 4: way to the airport, I'm like, guys, look, I need 440 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 4: you know. 441 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: I spoke to my management in Ukraine. I was like, 442 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 3: are you sure we. 443 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 4: Had the network executives, you know, second ownership, blah blah blah. 444 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,479 Speaker 4: Cole say, hey, anything go down, You're the first person 445 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 4: you know to the airport, want to plan you out. 446 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 4: We all know how that did not happen, so right, 447 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: you know? 448 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 2: So, so was there like a moment when you realize 449 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: that that the situation was as dire as it was? 450 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, as soon as the five o'clock in the morning happened, 451 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 4: sirens siren, siren, siren, And then you know. 452 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: So did you try to evacuate after that point? And 453 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: what were the what were the options? There were no options. 454 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 4: I guess there were no options because I packed my 455 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: bags and I was you know, I had communicated with 456 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 4: my manager, who you know, who has two kids of 457 00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 4: her own, and in that communication, I realized that I'm 458 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: on my own, not just with my management or you know, 459 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: but also executives of the network, also my pa from 460 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: the show. Also, I cannot call these people because these 461 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 4: people have a war. 462 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: To deal with. 463 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 4: I have a house, I have a home. I'm not 464 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 4: from here. I'm an American citizen. I have my ticket out. 465 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 4: Maybe not now, maybe I got to find it. Maybe 466 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 4: I got to find a way, but I was okay. 467 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: My family wasn't here. So I realized that regardless of 468 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 4: what anyone wants to do for me, they should be 469 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 4: focusing on themselves. So I grab my back back and 470 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 4: I spent eight days in a different place, adjacent to 471 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 4: someone more safer. You know, I was safe until I wasn't. 472 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 4: And that group of people told me you have to go. 473 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 4: They put me on the train. Because I was an 474 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: American citizen, I was allowed to just get out. But 475 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 4: I was on a trade that was nine nine percent 476 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: women and children. 477 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 2: And so it was. 478 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 4: It was a wild, wild situation. I saw everything in. 479 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: My eyes and where did the train go? Where did 480 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: the train go? 481 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: It was. 482 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 4: There was a very hectic moment because I was given. 483 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 4: I was I was giving into someone's care and said 484 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: and they and they told that man, They're like, hey, 485 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 4: you have to get him to the to the train 486 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 4: station and make sure he's on the train. Well, that 487 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 4: that gentleman did not want to. 488 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: Do it because it was past it would have been 489 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 3: past curve a curfew time, and he wouldn't be able 490 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 3: to get home. So I and obviously I speak. 491 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 4: Both languages, so I'm hearing, but he's talking to his 492 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 4: you know people, and times he's like, look, I'm gonna 493 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 4: drop them off on a be out. 494 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 3: And so there was like you know, pump sweaty kind 495 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: of situation. 496 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: But I got shoved into the train and it was 497 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 4: at that time was like where do you want to go? 498 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 3: And I was just trying to go west. So I 499 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 3: was trying to get to the city Old Leviv. And 500 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: after that works something out. There was an announcement. 501 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 4: Somebody came in said there's a train to Warsaw and 502 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm in you know, anywhere, obviously I 503 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: can just go. 504 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: That's how I ended up in Poland. 505 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: Okay, you ended up in Poland. Wow, that is a terrifying, 506 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 2: terrifying story. And we all know how long this has 507 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: gone on and a terrible tragedy of that war. But 508 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: to be there, your connections, you know, being in America 509 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: and in that situation, did you ever feel like that 510 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: you could possibly be specifically targeted based on being such 511 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: a high profile you know, American Ukrainian Ukrainian American there 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 2: or was it just kind of all out Bendlamen. 513 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 4: I think that I drew attention when I started posting 514 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 4: things on my social media right, and I know I 515 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 4: drew attention because we all see the social media numbers 516 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 4: that that show to us. I went from like some 517 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 4: couple of thousand likes to you know, half a million 518 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 4: people tuning in, literally tuning in. 519 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: I realized that much later. 520 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 4: I didn't even think of that, but I led it. 521 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 3: Back in US. 522 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: And on day two, I got an anonymous phone call 523 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 4: from some gentlemen who I met maybe a decade ago, 524 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 4: who happened to be as he said, and I get 525 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: I don't I don't even know his name, but somebody 526 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 4: just called. 527 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 3: Me is like, hey, we met a wrong time ago. 528 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 4: I want to tell you that I'm an ex military, 529 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: but I still have my connections, and I just want 530 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 4: you to be very careful. 531 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 3: Because you're in a puddence list. Like my friend, I 532 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 3: don't know what to do with this insuation. 533 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 4: Wow, I got a lot to process and I just 534 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 4: want to go back to my family. 535 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: So that's one of those pieces of information that you're like, 536 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: did I really need to know that? You know, because 537 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: like you said it, it's like what what what what 538 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 2: am I supposed to do with that piece of information? 539 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 4: Well, that that was My thing is that that happened 540 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 4: literally as soon as I landed back in US, which was, uh, 541 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 4: you know, once the beginning of March. Now, and you 542 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: know what I realized is is I had a lot 543 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 4: of PTSD to deal with. 544 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: Like, you know, I was strong, I'm a strong Brooklyn 545 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: race man. 546 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 4: You know us, you know, we don't want to talk 547 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 4: about weaknesses. You know, we don't want to talk about 548 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 4: you know, some things that going on in here that 549 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 4: you can't understand and you're reacting to. 550 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: And it took until I asked my wife. I woke 551 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 3: up and I'm. 552 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 4: Like, as I'm waking up, I'm like, why am I sad? 553 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: Like nothing happened yet today for me to be sad 554 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 4: And she's like, because you're depressed. 555 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: You know. 556 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 4: And I'm like, what is that? That's some word that 557 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 4: like someone else, it's not me. I'm like, I'm going 558 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 4: to go to the gym. I'll push it out and 559 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 4: we'll be fire. But so now I had a lot 560 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 4: of that to deal with. The problem is that at 561 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 4: the same time is when you know, my dad here 562 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: and my parents everybody involved just started doing crazy things 563 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 4: with our foundation. 564 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: If you are inspired by today's episode, please join us 565 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: in supporting six degrees dot org by texting the word 566 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: bacon to seven zero seven zero seven zero. 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Hey, thanks for joining us. Hey guys, So 579 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: you're in You're in Manhattan. 580 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Yes, it's actually Jersey City. 581 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 4: Oh, Jersey City, Okay, hot, So it's across so Lonhattan. 582 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. 583 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: So tell us tell us what what what is Baronova. 584 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 4: Twenty seven BARANOA twenty seven. It's first of all, it's 585 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: the name of the street and address Medessa that I 586 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: grew up, was born and grew up. 587 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: Allison val was born and grew up as well. 588 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: And it's uh when when war in New Quine started 589 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 5: February twenty four, the first the name of the organization immediately. 590 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 4: Came to our mind like it shouldn't be like I 591 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 4: know what twenty seven. It's very it's very home for 592 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 4: Ukrainian and for people from Ukraine the edges. And that's 593 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: how we started. And we wanted to The simple mission 594 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 4: that we had in our mind was to help. We 595 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 4: didn't know how by the way I'm started, we had 596 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 4: no idea, had not foul, but we knew that we 597 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 4: wanted to help, no matter how, no matter what to send, 598 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 4: how to send, where are we're gonna get money, how 599 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: we're gonna get money. We just want to help, to 600 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 4: help with grant and that's it. That was only that 601 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 4: was only the mission. 602 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 3: It was only the point. 603 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: You know, that's a I mean, you bring up something 604 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 2: really interesting, which is, yeah, you wanted to help, but 605 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: you didn't need to help, do you know what I mean? 606 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: What's the thing that makes you feel that way? Because 607 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 2: it would be very easy. You're in the States, you've 608 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: lived in the States for a really long time. You're saying, 609 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 2: if you're secure to make to to look at a 610 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: situation and say I can't just stand by and keep 611 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: living my life. I have to do something. I don't 612 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: know what that something is, but I have to do something. 613 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 2: What is it that you What do you think is 614 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: it that makes you feel that way? 615 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 4: The truth to all I need to tell that to 616 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: be honest completely were here twenty eight years. I never 617 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 4: want to be back to your pay but this twenty 618 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 4: eight years and never I didn't have that that in 619 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 4: my answering planetial question. 620 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: I need it. Never being like, oh I have. 621 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: Some depression, i'd have a nostle g I have just 622 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: I'm missing my friends or my CD. 623 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 3: No. Never, I just consider myself. 624 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 4: As America, even though it's my sound or they're pathetic. 625 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 4: But yes, I consider myself with Ukraine and America, and 626 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: I will fight with this country Ukraine, yes my rules, 627 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 4: it might homeland. But for twenty eight years I never 628 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 4: wanted to go back to Ukrain. I was paying one 629 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 4: time with Max when it was popular, undancy the stars. 630 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: I don't know what wanted him to go back himself, 631 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: that's all. That was only the reason I came back 632 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 4: to Ukraine at one time. But when war started and 633 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 4: I see Max trapped in Piev and literally with their 634 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: eyes with the tears, and my wife even leave allus 635 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 4: five days. 636 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: I was my my my heart, my blood, everything was boiling. 637 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: It was a different feelings. 638 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 4: It's still not my war, telling that to everyone, it's 639 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: not my war, but I feel the pain through Max 640 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 4: at the beginning, and that was the reason why we 641 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: just put all effort, everything that we could to health Ipranion. 642 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 2: I'm assuming there still must be some family over there though, 643 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: or or or friends or it's friends. 644 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: Sometimes Nights has more people in the grade right than me, 645 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 4: but has more friends that I do. I have some 646 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 4: family member, not direct, not only, but like second cousins. 647 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 2: So how would you describe the mission of Baronova twenty 648 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: seven and are what are the nuts and bolts of 649 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: how it works for people that. 650 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 4: Doesn't the mission or particularly disorganization, because again they're the help. 651 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,879 Speaker 4: It's such a wide specter of how we can help 652 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 4: the Ukrainia right in order for us to not go 653 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,960 Speaker 4: left or ride to cower many many areas we can 654 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 4: we cannot. We're not billionaires, so now we cannot cover 655 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 4: a lot. We try to concentrate our effort on two things. 656 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,919 Speaker 4: On actually one thing. First, we started from sending the help, 657 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: sending the goods from first eight military equipment to the 658 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 4: ready formal. We saw we send close to half million, 659 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,479 Speaker 4: half million pounds of goods from New Jersey fourth week 660 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: to Ukraine. 661 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: And these were donations people people who donated. Is that 662 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 2: is that just people bring in goods, whatever it is, 663 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 2: whatever they whatever you could use, they would bring it 664 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 2: and donated for. 665 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 4: We sat Amazon, We set Amazon Amazon is say okay, 666 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 4: Amazon Tribe. 667 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 3: I was going to say that. 668 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 4: Immediately there was a huge rush of people trying to help, 669 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 4: and everybody's asking what do I do? 670 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 3: Where do I go? 671 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 4: And that's also why we're like, we'll bring it to us, 672 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 4: we'll take care of it. And then we ended up 673 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 4: with one hundred people volunteering every single day coming to 674 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 4: location that my dad organized and he would organize volunteers. 675 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 3: To do the job, to pack, to ship to all 676 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 3: the stuff. 677 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 4: So you know, uh, and then we imploy implemented like 678 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: what he said, Amazon registry, so we would just put 679 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 4: lists and keep updating. 680 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 3: The lists and have people see donate that way. 681 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: I didn't even realize that, I'm sorry to interrupted, I 682 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 2: don't I didn't even realize that that was a possibility 683 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: on Amazon. So that's that's that's that's super cool, and 684 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: I think it's important for people to know that that 685 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 2: you can go out too Amazon and find your Baronova 686 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 2: twenty seven registry almost like a wedding, right like whatever, 687 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: a list of. 688 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 4: Things and a hundred items. That's two hundred, okay, two 689 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 4: hundred also two hundred items from a set as it said, 690 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 4: from a bulletproof bulletproof ass to baby formal. 691 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 2: Does an Amazon deliver it or do you do? They 692 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: deliver it two years so they delivered directly to no. 693 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,440 Speaker 4: No, no, they delivered to us fourth Week. Beside the 694 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 4: production at was ware house five heat in the primary estate. 695 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 4: The landlord of fourth Week the Navy. 696 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 3: That space was wowre free over end. 697 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 4: It was for six months, for five months. 698 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: But it was full full production with. 699 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 4: The smack sat over one hundred volundtiers came as a 700 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,240 Speaker 4: work and we were full production. 701 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: Amazing. 702 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,359 Speaker 4: We started from that we sent as I said, well 703 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 4: to have million pounds and goods, and then during this 704 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 4: time we start to pertain what would be more tangible 705 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 4: because again hundred thousands of people sent stuff to Ukraine's 706 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 4: they have everything. They do have beery formal, I'm sure. 707 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 4: But what they don't have they don't have, especially now 708 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 4: they don't. 709 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: Have a place to leave, to displace. 710 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 4: Ukrainian people who are still in Ukraine but unfortunately needed 711 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 4: to be displaced or relocated from west, from east Jupuprane 712 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 4: to the west of Ukraine or anywhere else within Ukraine. 713 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 3: That was our main concern. 714 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 4: During this time, to help these people, to bring the housing, 715 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 4: to build a high housing. 716 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: This displaced people. That's why we full the Turkey. 717 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 4: We found the manufacturing Turkey and we ordered tours ten 718 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 4: module models houses modules houses wow like yes, like a 719 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: container that being it's a call flat pack. 720 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: We bought them for our own money. 721 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 4: We collect this money through go fund me. 722 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 3: That it was another story. 723 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 4: We started goth fund Me from day one and that's 724 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,320 Speaker 4: how we collected this money. 725 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 3: We collect clothes to half million dollars. 726 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,959 Speaker 4: Most of this money went to their shipping to build 727 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 4: goods and the remaining money went to the first village 728 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 4: we called Baranava twenty seven village ten houses. 729 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: Being built in Ruby region. 730 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 4: It's in west Ukraine for forty people. I foll there 731 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,399 Speaker 4: secretly in June for the grand opening. Nobody knew, even 732 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 4: my family, Max didn't know that A fool there. Oh 733 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 4: we called them from the from the border. I texted 734 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 4: them and said, guys, I'm sorry, I apologize I did. 735 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. 736 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 4: I know that it's bad, but I'm in Ukraine. It 737 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 4: was a pulse and then it was bombarding. Make how 738 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 4: there you want? I am just not let them know 739 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 4: about it. 740 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: But but that's that's amazing. So is that is that 741 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: moving forward? Is that really what you're focused on? Is 742 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: the is the is the housing? I mean it's I mean, 743 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 2: so I'm guessing I want to make sure that people 744 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,840 Speaker 2: know how they can help out this effort. 745 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 4: We want to just I want to clarify that. You know, 746 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,239 Speaker 4: when I came out of Ukraine and our foundation was 747 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 4: already on full full scale production. 748 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: In New Jersey, We've really quickly. 749 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 4: Realized that this full scale production is going to be 750 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 4: hard to keep because people are going to be fatigued, 751 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 4: and which is what we saw. 752 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 3: We saw eventually that we. 753 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 4: Were write and people fatigued from donating ten dollars at 754 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: a time or buying this sock or do you know. 755 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 4: It was hardest and then summer came and sort of 756 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: people relaxed. 757 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 3: A little bit. 758 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 4: But what we were doing is we we saw while 759 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 4: I was in Poland and I was trying to help 760 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 4: with logistics, the chain of logistics, you know, I was 761 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 4: overseeing how our goods are going to be received in 762 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 4: Poland and how they're going to continue being transferred. 763 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 3: What we saw. 764 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 4: We got a request from a orphanage where they collected 765 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: two hundred orphans from east of Ukraine and those bombarded 766 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 4: cities and they moved them to the western Ukraine. And 767 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 4: when I got this request by virtue of my friends 768 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 4: who started to you know, text and this was a 769 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 4: huge underground network of people reaching out what they need 770 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 4: and we would then find someone in Ukraine who. 771 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: Can then deliver that. 772 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 4: Outside of what Baranova was doing, you know, we were 773 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 4: doing a lot of things too. So we got this 774 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 4: request and I was in Shamasilla at that time, which 775 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 4: was near border town, and what they said is that 776 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: there's two hundred children of various ages. There's plus they're 777 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 4: handlers and they're in that space. 778 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, what is that space? 779 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 4: That space was like a summer camp that was supposed 780 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 4: to be up for demolition and I'm like, well, what 781 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 4: do they have in that space? They have a kitchen. 782 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: I'm like great, but what else? And then they showed 783 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 4: me pictures. Because what we did with Burnover is we 784 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 4: you know, I literally just went to supermarket in Poland. 785 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 3: And I got a U hole truck. 786 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 4: And I bought like two and a half thousand dollars 787 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 4: worth of just food supplies, you know, woods, oils and 788 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 4: all that. So we started supplying it and then we 789 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 4: got the pictures, and the pictures showed that this is 790 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 4: not a livable building. There's no like working heat and 791 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 4: all that stuff. Going into the summer, it was okay, 792 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 4: but what are they going to do later? So that's 793 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 4: when we realized that people in Ukraine, now, the ones 794 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,319 Speaker 4: that went to European countries end up being placed in families, right, 795 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 4: but the people in you cra with no electricity, no heat, 796 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 4: especially now when we're seeing what was what's happening, the 797 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 4: infrastructure is being destroyed. Those people need a place to 798 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 4: live and rebuild and help. And so what we're focused 799 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 4: on is helping people inside Ukraine stay inside Ukraine, gotcha, 800 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 4: so that they continue helping Ukraine from within and not 801 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 4: you know, be refugees somewhere else. 802 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 2: Gotcha. Wow, I mean it's incredibly impressive. H what what 803 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 2: you guys have done? And Sasha, you know I I 804 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 2: I I've heard quite a bit from Max about you 805 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 2: you and uh and Uh you know his mom and 806 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 2: and and the way that he was raised. And he 807 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: gives you a lot of props. I don't know if 808 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: he tells you to your face, but he gives you 809 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 2: a lot of it gives you a lot of props 810 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,239 Speaker 2: for for what's happened with him. How how do you 811 00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 2: feel about him and his his success and what what 812 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: he's accomplished just as as a father. Uh, not not 813 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 2: only in the in the world of dance, but also 814 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 2: in in this kind of laying this foundation for having 815 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,439 Speaker 2: having a sense of giving back. 816 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 3: Uh, I need to yes, what Max said? You said 817 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 3: that Max told you gave me a lot of props. 818 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 3: We normally give you props to each. 819 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 4: Other through other people for the third party. 820 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 6: It's it's really happened. It's really happened that we say 821 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 6: to each other face I love you, or that I 822 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 6: love you, I just enjoyed being with you all that I'm. 823 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 3: Enjoying being with you. 824 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 4: I respect you and oh, I'm enjoying being respecting you. Right, 825 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 4: we're almost all the time, at least for me, and 826 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 4: I get the critics, and I just criticized myself. But 827 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 4: for me, I just rather tell some bartender, oh this 828 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,320 Speaker 4: is my son, tell him that I'll love him, you 829 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 4: know what I mean? And sometimes does from Papa the Strikers. Well, 830 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,320 Speaker 4: but what I can say, I'm very proud of Max. 831 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 4: I'm very proud of everything that he did before before Ukraine, when. 832 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 7: He was sixteen seventeen years old, young adult who didn't 833 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,759 Speaker 7: know what he was, but he started to help to 834 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 7: teach and writing, start dance again to help the family 835 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 7: to Soviet in the United States back in ninety ninety eight, 836 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,800 Speaker 7: right was ninety ninety seven, and through all these years 837 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 7: he sacrificed. At that point, he sacrificed his last career 838 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 7: just to help and that school that I'm not the best. 839 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 4: I couldn't just replace him. I'm just going to do 840 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 4: a lot of other stuff, but not to teach advanced. 841 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: It was his beginning and that throughout all these years, 842 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,919 Speaker 4: even being successful advancing with the stars, he always helped 843 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,280 Speaker 4: other people. And I would say hundreds hundreds of people 844 00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 4: right now a. 845 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 3: Seal in that business. 846 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 4: There's been people who he drove there and he helped 847 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 4: them to establish, help them to settle, the help down 848 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 4: with advices and everything, and still help them. And when 849 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 4: war started, it was his heart who just kept him here. 850 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: He didn't want. We asked him to. 851 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 4: Not go to your paint before war because he could 852 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 4: not easily not go there. And we went him to 853 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,719 Speaker 4: get out from the paint before February twenty four and 854 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: he said, no, guys, everything will be okay. I want 855 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 4: to finish when I started here. I want to just 856 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 4: continue to do because alightens people. I respect that meaning 857 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 4: has a big card. And hopefully this heart will stay 858 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: big and nothing hurt him. That's what I wish him 859 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 4: all the time. 860 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 2: That's beautiful, man, That's that is that is beautiful. And 861 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 2: you know, I'm glad that we could have this podcast 862 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: so that you could both know that you love each 863 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: other without with without without hearing it from a bartender. 864 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 2: Just think of me as your bartender. 865 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 4: You know, I could see I could see us on 866 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 4: a on a on a doctor Field episode at this point. 867 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,240 Speaker 4: But you know, just tell each other how you feel. 868 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,359 Speaker 4: I I I just want to quickly add like, that's 869 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 4: that's that's kind of us, that's us in a nutshell, 870 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 4: and that's the entire family. We you know, we we 871 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 4: come from such such humble beginnings and such. 872 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,439 Speaker 3: Normal regular way. 873 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 4: You know, where I'm often confused with with some celebrity 874 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,719 Speaker 4: from Los Angeles. You know, I'm not I'm never going 875 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,759 Speaker 4: to become one. Uh, I'm always that. We don't have 876 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 4: a problem saying we love you. 877 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 3: We know we love each other. 878 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 4: We we have that feeling we you know, we just 879 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: don't act in the way that that that you know, 880 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 4: we don't finish up on because Okay, I love you dad, Bye. 881 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 3: We'll say each other when we see each other. 882 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 4: But you know, this man is everything that that I 883 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 4: have become is because of him. 884 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 3: And you know, our mom's. 885 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,919 Speaker 4: Nurturing and his his leadership, and it's always been that way. 886 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 4: So you know the fact that we my brother and 887 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 4: I you know, I don't see myself not doing stuff 888 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 4: with my family. I don't see myself not helping my family. 889 00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,280 Speaker 4: But I also I'm very proud of bringing my family 890 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 4: with me to whatever I'm doing because I know that 891 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,399 Speaker 4: this right here is going to be possible that I'm 892 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,239 Speaker 4: going to be some celebrity face, you know, of some 893 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 4: kind of horrible situation. And I know that my family 894 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: will not only have my back, but will continue my 895 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 4: mission too, because because it's real and so you know, 896 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 4: I love that it's this. I love that I didn't 897 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 4: have to go to a corporation and and and talk about, hey, 898 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 4: let's open a foundation. So you know, this is organic, 899 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,399 Speaker 4: as we say nowadays in the business world, this is 900 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 4: this is something that you know, resonates with people because 901 00:48:58,840 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 4: this is organic. 902 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,719 Speaker 3: And as I said. 903 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 4: Before, we're here for the long haul, you know. We 904 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 4: We're not here for a couple of months and then 905 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,239 Speaker 4: go on with life. We would love to go on 906 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 4: with life. I would love for this to be over now. 907 00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: But when it's over, I'm going to go back to 908 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 4: Ukraine anyway. You know, my dad's gonna continue, you know, 909 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 4: continue building housing. 910 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 3: Anyway. We're gonna you. 911 00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 4: Know, re re reposition ourselves to whatever we can do 912 00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 4: bigger and a bigger scale. Anyway, I think this is 913 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 4: this is a lifetime connection and relationship. 914 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 2: At this point, well, I got to say, you guys 915 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 2: are it's incredibly impressive to me the work that you're doing. Uh, 916 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:44,840 Speaker 2: keep it up. You know, it's it's it's it's so important, 917 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 2: and just uh, I don't I just I really, I'm 918 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 2: so grateful that both of you, uh came on today 919 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,680 Speaker 2: and it was a fascinating conversation. Maxwe'll give you a 920 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 2: there's this Absasha. Maybe you don't know this, maybe neither 921 00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: one of you do. There's this dumb game called the 922 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 2: Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon where there's always a connection 923 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 2: to me. It's somebody. I didn't make it up, somebody 924 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: else did. But do you actually know Max r r 925 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 2: six degrees connection? 926 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 4: Uh? 927 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 3: Do I know what this is? So? Do I know 928 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:19,160 Speaker 3: our connection? 929 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 2: Do you know our connection? 930 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 3: I didn't know? 931 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 2: Okay, we're connected by actually only two steps because I 932 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 2: did a movie called She's having a Baby and Kirsty 933 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,440 Speaker 2: Alley had a small puss and She's having a baby, 934 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 2: and you dance with Kristy Alley. 935 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,320 Speaker 3: So there's that kirs Sally twice. 936 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so maybe that doubles it. I don't all right, 937 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: cut it in half. 938 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 3: I don't know. 939 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 2: It's a dumbicide. Uh. And just one more question for you, 940 00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 2: are you going to replace Len oh Man where the stars? 941 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you're there the perfect guy. 942 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 4: Right if if I'm not me and I'm saying it 943 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 4: about someone from a side, I would say that I 944 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 4: am the best candidate to replace somebody like that. 945 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,720 Speaker 2: Okay, so we heard it here first, folks. 946 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 3: I would love to. I would love to. 947 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 4: I would love my show to stay on air forever. Honestly, 948 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 4: I think Dancing the Stars has been that thing that 949 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,200 Speaker 4: the entire generation, you know, we we were the only 950 00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 4: show for a long time that you know, three four 951 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 4: generations can watch together and be interested. 952 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm a. 953 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 4: Huge fan of dancing in general. Like I said, our family, 954 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 4: Pops is the witness. Yesterday, our mom had our first, 955 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,959 Speaker 4: her first competition at the right page of sixty three, 956 00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 4: so awesome. We're now waiting for my dad to join 957 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 4: and maybe they'll do some couple dancing too. 958 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,960 Speaker 2: But I never know something to look for. 959 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 4: But the last thing I want to say, thank you 960 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 4: so much, and I wouldn't be me and this wouldn't 961 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 4: be our mission. And if I wouldn't direct people and 962 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,480 Speaker 4: say hey, please follow us and find Burnover twenty seven 963 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 4: on whether it's social media, we are Barnover twenty seven 964 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,399 Speaker 4: dot org in our website. We are five oh one 965 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 4: c three nonprofit public charity, so you know that we're 966 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 4: real and legit, and I want to tell people that 967 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 4: it's very very very cold in Ukraine now because there's 968 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 4: no headen electricity. So you know we are the vessel. 969 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 4: You are the you know, the ten fifteen dollars donation. 970 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 4: That's all I want. 971 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:38,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you for doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, 972 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 2: b A r A n o Va twenty seven. Check 973 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: it out. There's a lot that you can do and 974 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,400 Speaker 2: you can help the people of Ukraine. And thank you 975 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 2: both so much for being here. Ship. 976 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 3: Thank you guys, Thank you to help the house. Thank 977 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 3: you appreciate it. 978 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 8: If you do, hey, thanks for listening to another episode 979 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 8: of six degrees. And if you want to learn more 980 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,160 Speaker 8: about Barronova twenty seven and all the work that Maxim 981 00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,839 Speaker 8: and his father are up to, go to their website 982 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 8: at Bornova twenty seven dot org bron Nova twenty seven 983 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 8: dot org. Plus you can find all the links in. 984 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,359 Speaker 3: Our show notes and if you like. 985 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 8: What you're here, make sure you subscribe to the show 986 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 8: on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 987 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 2: See you next. Time