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Speaker 5: Today we're going to talk about appraisals right home appraisals,
Speaker 5: and we're going to attack it from a different standpoint.
Speaker 5: So I actually wrote a post about this on my
Speaker 5: Instagram page a while back, if anybody follows me. So,
Speaker 5: there was a recent study by the Bookings Institute in
Speaker 5: Gallop which shows that homes and majority black neighborhoods are
Speaker 5: undervalued during their pazel process by forty eight thousand dollars
Speaker 5: per home, which amounts to one hundred and fifty six
Speaker 5: billion dollars in cumulative losses nationwide. So what happens is
Speaker 5: that they're saying that black homes are valued at twenty
Speaker 5: three percent lower than the white counterparts. So obviously how
Speaker 5: they do that is that they base it like the
Speaker 5: same home. Right, so it has to be like three bedroom,
Speaker 5: two bath home and a black neighborhood three bedroom, Yeah,
Speaker 5: exactly comparable what we call in the real estate industry comparables.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So they're not going to compare a one bedroom apartment
Speaker 5: to a mansion. They compare the same exact home, same
Speaker 5: exact space, backyard, all of.
Speaker 4: That stuff within the same zip code.
Speaker 5: Right. So on average, the black home is value that
Speaker 5: forty eight thousand less than the white home. So what
Speaker 5: happens is that now it affects people in a lot
Speaker 5: of different ways. Right. So now when you have less
Speaker 5: value when you sell your home, right, you're getting less money, right,
Speaker 5: You're also it lowers your net worth, Right, it lowers
Speaker 5: your equity that you can borrow from because the value
Speaker 5: of the home is less. So it's a lot of
Speaker 5: negative effects for that. Right. So some people will say, okay, well,
Speaker 5: the reason that the black homes and then black neighborhoods
Speaker 5: are lower than white neighborhoods is because black neighborhoods, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: a lot of times you have higher crime rates. It
Speaker 5: sometimes maybe a longer commute, bad schools, So all of
Speaker 5: that stuff plays a factor in the home value, right,
Speaker 5: and that's true, But the studies showed that that only
Speaker 5: accounts for actually half of the devaluation. So what happened
Speaker 5: to the other seventy eight billion? Right, So that only
Speaker 5: accounted for one seventy eight billion, But the other seventy
Speaker 5: eight billion is not accounting for in all those other factors.
Speaker 5: So this is what the study show, not me. So
Speaker 5: the Booking Institute, the Gallop, they came to the conclusion
Speaker 5: that the other seventy eight billion dollars in devaluation was
Speaker 5: solely due to one thing. You know what that one
Speaker 5: thing is, Go ahead, tell me racism. Right. They just
Speaker 5: said that they just valued black homes lower. Right, when
Speaker 5: appraiser comes, he just looks at a black home as
Speaker 5: being worse less than a white home. It's just that's
Speaker 5: what it is. That's what that's what it accounted for. Right.
Speaker 5: So this is a troubling statistic, right, for a lot
Speaker 5: of different reasons. But the main reason is that, you know,
Speaker 5: one of the things that you know, you always taught
Speaker 5: in America is that you do good you buy a home.
Speaker 5: You know, that's like the number one way to preserve
Speaker 5: wealth for your family, do the right things, and you
Speaker 5: can sell your home. But now, ay, it's already discriminory,
Speaker 5: discriminatory practices and actually buying a home, right dude, that's
Speaker 5: been proven. And now even if you do buy the home,
Speaker 5: it's devalued just because you live in it. Right. So
Speaker 5: it was interesting when I wrote that story because a
Speaker 5: lot of people were going back and forth like, well,
Speaker 5: I don't believe that. It's like, you know, a lot
Speaker 5: of people don't believe that racism is actually real thing.
Speaker 5: But the thing about it is that it doesn't even
Speaker 5: affect people just in black neighborhood. They can affect white
Speaker 5: a black family living in a white neighborhood. Right. So,
Speaker 5: as I said, so, a lot of times people were saying, like,
Speaker 5: this is just made up. I don't believe it. So
Speaker 5: now being that we have a personal story to confirm it,
Speaker 5: you're going to go into your story.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what, when you wrote the article and I
Speaker 3: had no idea you were writing an article, I thought
Speaker 3: you were writing it about me. I honestly were like, yo,
Speaker 3: this guy just wrote my story.
Speaker 4: And I called you.
Speaker 3: I'm like you serious, and you're like, nah, this is
Speaker 3: like factuals to the evidence and I'm like, oh wow,
Speaker 3: this is really happening.
Speaker 4: So two years ago, almost about two years ago, I
Speaker 4: was in.
Speaker 3: The process of buying a home and that comes, let's
Speaker 3: go back. I wasn't going to be in the process
Speaker 3: if it wasn't for you. And that was part of
Speaker 3: the early leisure conversation. My family was about to move
Speaker 3: and you were like, hey, why don't you go.
Speaker 4: In and buy a home?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I had not getten any thought.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, maybe maybe you was shot out,
Speaker 3: maybe I should do this. So you sparked that in
Speaker 3: my mind, I'm like, all right, Well, I presented the
Speaker 3: proposal to my family and they were like, let's do this.
Speaker 4: And one of the things we had to do was
Speaker 4: get the house of Praise.
Speaker 3: Now, my family bought the home in twenty ten, and
Speaker 3: the house was valued at five hundred and seventy five thousand.
Speaker 3: That's what it was valued at. We bought it for
Speaker 3: five hundred and twenty five thousand. That was a purchase
Speaker 3: price in twenty ten. Long story short, part of my
Speaker 3: family wanted to move moved to another area, so I
Speaker 3: came in and went in on a deal with my
Speaker 3: father and we got the house and the process of
Speaker 3: appraisal was an alarming one because when he the appraisal
Speaker 3: I won't say his name, we're actually still in there.
Speaker 4: We wrote a Consumer Reports review about it.
Speaker 3: The appraisal man came in and said that the house
Speaker 3: had devalued. Now we have added things to the home,
Speaker 3: you know, the typical things obviously stand still, furniture, I
Speaker 3: mean stay in still, appliances, would floors, all all the
Speaker 3: things that you would add to, you know, increase value
Speaker 3: in your home. And in the eight year, eight year period,
Speaker 3: the house went from being purchased at five hundred and
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand to now being five hundred and ten thousand.
Speaker 5: So all right, so you bought a house in New York,
Speaker 5: in the suburbs of New York west Chester, which is
Speaker 5: anybody's not familiar. It's affluent, prey affluent neighborhood.
Speaker 4: White plans in New York.
Speaker 5: Okay, so you buy a house for five hundred and.
Speaker 3: How much five hundred and twenty five thousand, ten Yeah,
Speaker 3: seven years where there is no market correction.
Speaker 5: Real estate has only gone up in New York and
Speaker 5: across America as a whole.
Speaker 4: But definitely and especially in this neighborhood.
Speaker 5: Okay, you made improvements, you made improvements to the home,
Speaker 5: and he said that the home was devalued by fifteen thousand.
Speaker 4: Fifteen thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like when you look at that, it's like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, that's kind of crazy. But then you look
Speaker 3: at the comparables because that's part of the appraisal process too.
Speaker 3: So I looked at the comparables. Six hundred, six hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty six hundred eighteen. We had an offer on
Speaker 3: the table, like my brother was going to sell the
Speaker 3: house before I stepped in, and the offer was for
Speaker 3: six hundred, six hundred thousand, and you got to praise
Speaker 3: at fifty five hundred and ten thousand.
Speaker 5: And what do your neighbors look like?
Speaker 4: My neighbors are from a different ethnic background, but ethnic background.
Speaker 3: We have Hispanic neighbors, we have neighbors, we have a
Speaker 3: few black neighbors down the street.
Speaker 5: The majority of people in your neighborhood, what are white?
Speaker 4: Majority of them?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so the comparables in the neighborhood is six
Speaker 5: hundred thousand.
Speaker 3: Six hundred plus at least. So the deal was time sensitive.
Speaker 3: So not only did I was like blown away by
Speaker 3: the number that came back.
Speaker 4: I knew that we had to react fast because there was.
Speaker 3: A lot of dominoes that were going to fall if
Speaker 3: we didn't get this done. So he came in and
Speaker 3: gave us a five hundred and ten thousand appraisal. But
Speaker 3: on top of it, I had to pay him eight
Speaker 3: hundred dollars to him to do that, so like, not
Speaker 3: only was it in justice in a disservice, but I
Speaker 3: had to pay him out of my pocket to say
Speaker 3: thank you. He came in, he was here for maybe
Speaker 3: ten minutes and left and that was the last time
Speaker 3: I saw him until I had to, you know, get
Speaker 3: in contact with him, like how did this happen? And
Speaker 3: you know, his explanation was pretty much, you don't have
Speaker 3: the size of the backyard as the comparables. So I
Speaker 3: was like, no, this is this is impossible. I literal
Speaker 3: drove around the neighborhood to the comparables. I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: this is no way. And being that the process of
Speaker 3: getting the house was time sensitive, I just had to say,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just gonna have to take this
Speaker 3: one and then we'll deal with this at a later time.
Speaker 3: My mortgage broker at the time was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't believe this. This is crazy, but at a
Speaker 3: certain extent, you're at the bank's mercy, right, Like they're
Speaker 3: the one that's approven you for the loan. They send
Speaker 3: their appraisal, the person that do the appraisal, so it's like,
Speaker 3: what do you do?
Speaker 5: So at that point in time, he took ninety thousand
Speaker 5: off the table, oh, wealth right from your family pretty much?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Wait, just his opinion.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like a lot of people don't get to this
Speaker 3: level to even see this type of discrimination, right because
Speaker 3: how many people are in the position to even get
Speaker 3: a home, you know what I mean. And it's like
Speaker 3: I can tell this story, but it's like who else
Speaker 3: can relate to this? Because, like I said, when you
Speaker 3: wrote it, I was like, wait, you're writing my story
Speaker 3: and You're like no, this is happening everywhere, and I'm like, oh, oh,
Speaker 3: now I have to take so I have taken some access,
Speaker 3: and it's still.
Speaker 5: You know, what's crazy. Somebody said on my Instagram that
Speaker 5: she told the story. I don't know for sure or not,
Speaker 5: but I'm gonna give her the benefit down say it's true.
Speaker 5: So she said that She had a home of praise
Speaker 5: three times and each time, let's say it was three
Speaker 5: hundred thousands roughly, I forget the number, but let's say
Speaker 5: three hundred thousand. It was like solid three hundred thousands,
Speaker 5: three times in a row. She had her white neighbor
Speaker 5: come for the fourth appraisal. She took down all the
Speaker 5: pictures and the white neighbor answered the door. Long story short,
Speaker 5: the praiser thought that it was a white neighbor's home.
Speaker 5: You know how much it was a praise for four
Speaker 5: hundred I think like four to ten one hundred and
Speaker 5: ten thousand dollars more, just on an opinion because he
Speaker 5: saw a white person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm like, we're literally and I lived it and
Speaker 3: I'm still living in it, and it's like wow, And
Speaker 3: I try to get that message out like yo, this
Speaker 3: is happening. But like I said, like who can relate
Speaker 3: to it? Like a lot of my peers are you know,
Speaker 3: are renting and they're not in the process of owning
Speaker 3: a home yet and they will be. But it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is how how is this possible? So like what
Speaker 3: would be the answer to eliminate that? Like you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like we have to get our own
Speaker 3: independent appraiser. Yeah, but that independent appraiser doesn't necessarily work
Speaker 3: for the bank who's giving you the loan, so it's
Speaker 3: like what do you do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an interesting discussion on my Instagram pagecause
Speaker 5: then some appraisers came in. It was actually hoping to
Speaker 5: get somebody in the praiser to come in as a guest,
Speaker 5: but we wasn't able to. But yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's an unfortunate situation that it's just
Speaker 5: stuff like that people don't even aren't really even thinking
Speaker 5: about right now. You had about like the hardcore racism stuff,
Speaker 5: but little stuff like that that's real wealth. So you're ninety,
Speaker 5: so your situation was ninety thousand dollars right now, you
Speaker 5: can see how when hit about one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: six billion, Like that's a large number, but how many
Speaker 5: people are like you ninety thousand here, one hundred thousand here,
Speaker 5: thirty thousands up? Yeahs up, all.
Speaker 4: Right, And like you said, like that's part of that generational.
Speaker 5: Wealth and that's not even a black neighborhood right right.
Speaker 3: It just was that, Hey, they saw the family that
Speaker 3: was here, and this is what we're saying it is,
Speaker 3: and take it or leave it. And if you leave it,
Speaker 3: then you're not going to get this ome because we're
Speaker 3: not approving you for this.
Speaker 4: Mom.
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Speaker 3: We only knew one of the wealthiest people of color
Speaker 3: in the world, and their minds were blown. And I
Speaker 3: was like, well, this is why, right, because all we've
Speaker 3: been we see is sports and entertainment. So we went
Speaker 3: to the number one person, the wealthiest black person or
Speaker 3: person of color in the entire world, well black person
Speaker 3: not even personal African descent. And we came to the
Speaker 3: name Aliko than Golti, Aliko dan Goti. He's actually from
Speaker 3: Nigeria and its networth this year, well in twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: was ten point seven billion.
Speaker 4: You want to go into it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Aliko Dane Gotie. We wanted to cover him
Speaker 5: for a few different reasons. But shout out to Africa.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of listeners in Africa and the
Speaker 5: UK and all over. And you know, obviously we live
Speaker 5: in America, so most of our stories are based off
Speaker 5: of Americans. But we're bigger than's just America. Right, you know,
Speaker 5: the world, as I always say, the world is flat.
Speaker 5: So we want to show love to every part of
Speaker 5: the world and to give inspiration to every part of
Speaker 5: the world as well. Right. So, as you said, the
Speaker 5: richest black person in the world, African descent, whatever you
Speaker 5: want to call it, is from Nigeria. Right, He's worth
Speaker 5: ten billion dollars. So we're going to tell his story.
Speaker 5: So because I'm pretty sure that most people aren't familiar
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, every time I've brought him up in conversation,
Speaker 3: people will say who is that, and it's it's ironic,
Speaker 3: like we know who Floyd Mayweather is, and we know
Speaker 3: who Jay Z and I mean, they've had a huge
Speaker 3: amount of success, but those three people, they're not worth
Speaker 3: doesn't even add up to his No, it's not even close.
Speaker 5: So all right, so Aliko, he he comes from Nigeria,
Speaker 5: right and he uh, he starts in twenty one and
Speaker 5: the concrete business. So he comes from a wealthy family
Speaker 5: already nowhere near where he is now. But he comes
Speaker 5: from a wealthy family. So that's no. That's another thing too.
Speaker 5: We have to keep in mind because even with the
Speaker 5: whole thing with Kylie Jenner, as far as what self made,
Speaker 5: that's that was big on the page. And we have
Speaker 5: to keep in mind that there are black wealthy people, right.
Speaker 3: Like his grandfather was wealthy, the wealthiest person in West Africage.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so and there's nothing wrong with we have to
Speaker 5: get out of that mind like, there's nothing to be
Speaker 5: embarrassed about if your if your family has money. But
Speaker 5: that's what we should strive to do to actually leave
Speaker 5: a legacy for our kids. And it's like we almost
Speaker 5: like are embarrassed if we have any leg up. I
Speaker 5: mean like it's it's kind of backwards way of thinking.
Speaker 5: But so, yeah, he comes from a wealthy family, but
Speaker 5: nowhere near where he is now. So at twenty one,
Speaker 5: he starts a concrete business, right and from there it's
Speaker 5: a five thousand dollars alone that he got from his
Speaker 5: uncle to start the business. From there, he parlayed that
Speaker 5: and to pretty much everything agriculture, food, telecommunications.
Speaker 4: Banking, petroleum, banking, controleum, sugar flowers.
Speaker 5: Sugar flower everything. He's like guys, guy's hands and everything.
Speaker 5: Everything in the country is pretty much he's involved with
Speaker 5: in one way or the other. He's heavy in politics everything. Right,
Speaker 5: So what he's doing now is that he is taking
Speaker 5: a major risk. But that's what business is about, right.
Speaker 5: He's taking a major risk and building a twelve billion
Speaker 5: dollar petroleum refinery, yes, right in Nigeria.
Speaker 3: So just a quick a couple of things about Nigeria.
Speaker 3: Nigeria is Africa's largest oil producer, so that's just the
Speaker 3: first thing. Now, they have the control of I think
Speaker 3: the tenth largest oil reserves in the country.
Speaker 4: Oh and I'm sorry in.
Speaker 3: The world, in the world, but they don't there take
Speaker 3: their resource, not their resources, but they don't have refineries
Speaker 3: that are efficient enough to get it throughout the entire time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So the thing about Nigeria is that they have the
Speaker 5: tenth largest oil reserves, like you said, in the world,
Speaker 5: but they only have four state run refineries and those
Speaker 5: are old. So what happens is that they have to
Speaker 5: import most of their petroleum, which makes no sense, right
Speaker 5: because you have so much petroleum in your backyard literally,
Speaker 5: but you have to import it because you don't have
Speaker 5: the infrastructure to actually produce it yourself. So that's his thing.
Speaker 5: His thing is like, why do why don't we have
Speaker 5: to bring in all of this stuff from the Middle
Speaker 5: East and all these other from countries when we have
Speaker 5: it right here. So he's building a twelve billion dollar
Speaker 5: refinery and what that will do is make it well
Speaker 5: as going to be the largest petroleum refinery.
Speaker 4: In the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the world.
Speaker 3: Literally he went out and this is built on wasteland.
Speaker 3: So he I mean again, his business helps with this process,
Speaker 3: right because he has the concrete, and he has the
Speaker 3: trucks and he has all these things to help build it.
Speaker 3: So he's building it right now. I believe it's off
Speaker 3: the south coast of Nigeria. But yeah, like, let's build
Speaker 3: this refinery because there's no point of us as important anymore.
Speaker 5: Right, So that's going to take if all goes well.
Speaker 5: So right now, his company made four billion dollars in revenue.
Speaker 5: That shit, if all goes well, that's going to take
Speaker 5: it from his company from four billion to thirty billion.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the key part about that is that sixty percent
Speaker 3: of Nigeria, right is not they're not connected to the
Speaker 3: power grid sixty percent and when the people who are,
Speaker 3: they have like four hours of power at a time.
Speaker 3: So there's like long history of blackouts in the country.
Speaker 3: So he has a chance to provide electricity now to
Speaker 3: an entire country.
Speaker 5: Well, yes, he has a chance to change the course
Speaker 5: of Nigeria forever, forever and also change the cost of
Speaker 5: Africa as.
Speaker 4: Well, the entire continent.
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, exactly, So what he's doing is more than
Speaker 5: just money, right, he has actual chance to really leave
Speaker 5: a legacy forever when it comes to Africa. And then
Speaker 5: of course money plays a part as well as let's
Speaker 5: say it takes his company from four billion to thirty billion,
Speaker 5: So now he's a billionaire. Now. I think he was
Speaker 5: like number hundred.
Speaker 3: On the list, yeah he I think his highest rank
Speaker 3: on the list was like twenty five. He was up
Speaker 3: to like twenty twenty. Yeah, a couple of things.
Speaker 5: But this does now, this puts him in like the
Speaker 5: top twenty. Now now he's in there with Bloomberg and
Speaker 5: guys like that. Right, So that changed the trajectory of
Speaker 5: wealth as well. But as I said, more importantly, like
Speaker 5: you said, sixty pent of the country doesn't have electricity.
Speaker 5: They're the tenth largest oil producing country, but they have
Speaker 5: to import all their oil, so they make themself reliant.
Speaker 5: They can keep all their resources at home now and
Speaker 5: it sets a trend for West Africa and the whole
Speaker 5: Sub Saharan Africa as a whole, right, because we all
Speaker 5: know that Africa is the richest continent as far as
Speaker 5: minerals and what's in the earth, but unfortunately it's the
Speaker 5: poorest continent economically, right, So hopefully this will be a
Speaker 5: trend that countries can follow in busines, this man in
Speaker 5: the countries can follow where now the wealth is actually
Speaker 5: kept in Africa and they're producing for themselves and they're
Speaker 5: keeping it for themselves, right, So there's two sides to
Speaker 5: every story, right. So a lot of people aren't big
Speaker 5: fans of his because they said that, you know, he
Speaker 5: has a lot of money off shore and some shaky
Speaker 5: business practices, political pays on the politicians.
Speaker 3: So his wealth, right, and when we look at our
Speaker 3: country and we think of the wealthiest people in the world,
Speaker 3: and we know that one percent of the population has
Speaker 3: more money than ninety nine percent, so his statistic is
Speaker 3: even larger because yes, I think fifty percent of the
Speaker 3: country does live in poverty, and you have now a
Speaker 3: man who's in the top one hundred wealthiest people in
Speaker 3: the world, so the disparacy is even greater.
Speaker 4: So people are looking at that, like, but.
Speaker 5: That's not just his I mean, look at Carlos Slim.
Speaker 4: Right in Mexico. Another person.
Speaker 5: I look at his brillion of billionaires in India or
Speaker 5: even America, right, so that's all over the world. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but like I said this, you know, there's there's some
Speaker 5: some rumors that you know, he's done some things, which
Speaker 5: I mean most business people have on a certain level. Right,
Speaker 5: But then he also has a charity where he's donated
Speaker 5: one point two billion dollars of his own wealth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe him and Bill Gates or doing.
Speaker 5: He's doing some stuff with Bill Gates. Well, but then
Speaker 5: he also built two hundred homes for poor people.
Speaker 3: So and he said his favorite So he for the
Speaker 3: first twenty years of business, so he started his company
Speaker 3: I believe in nineteen seventy seven, first twenty years of business,
Speaker 3: refused to travel, did not travel at all.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's into no vacation. So that's because that goes
Speaker 5: back to the college. Different thing right where I said, Okay,
Speaker 5: you start with money. Obviously, if you start with money,
Speaker 5: you have a leg up. It's obvious, right, But you
Speaker 5: still have to work the money to make it more money.
Speaker 5: So the guy didn't take a vacation for twenty years.
Speaker 5: Twenty years now he takes vacation now, But for the
Speaker 5: first twenty years in business, he didn't take a vacation.
Speaker 3: His ratio now is for every two weeks he works,
Speaker 3: he takes a vacation. I got to get We have
Speaker 3: to get to that, right, Yeah, I mean that's an
Speaker 3: amazing question.
Speaker 5: It's like, how many people take vacations just got here.
Speaker 4: It shouldn't be.
Speaker 5: He can't afford it, right, you you.
Speaker 4: Have no money and you're still taking vacations just for
Speaker 4: the hell of it.
Speaker 5: You're going Miami just just cause it's funny.
Speaker 4: You said Miami. Because when he said the two favorite
Speaker 4: places of travel.
Speaker 5: Atlanta in Miami, Atlanta in Miami, that's pretty random. I'ma
Speaker 5: be honest with you. If I'm one of the richest
Speaker 5: people in the world, I love Miami. I love Atlanta too,
Speaker 5: Those would not be my two top travel desers.
Speaker 4: Well, where you're coming from though you're coming from New York.
Speaker 5: It doesn't no matter where I'm coming from.
Speaker 3: Somebody who's in Nigeria that may look at that as
Speaker 3: like that's a tourist destination, and we do it like
Speaker 3: pretty regularly.
Speaker 5: Shotlana Shot to Miami too. It's just a little random
Speaker 5: for me, that's all. But yeah, those are his two favorite.
Speaker 5: He actually owns a lot of property in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he I think he had a residency out there,
Speaker 3: But now I think he's saying at some like luxurious
Speaker 3: like resort there.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I mean, Nigga, he's bawling out of control.
Speaker 5: But the thing about it also is that so this
Speaker 5: flip sides to every coin. So some people say he's
Speaker 5: a bad guy, some people say he's a good guy.
Speaker 5: I learned that life is complicated, right, So when I
Speaker 5: was in Columbia. I went to Columbia a little while ago.
Speaker 5: And obviously when you think of Columbia, who do you
Speaker 5: think of It's a legend. So everybody knows Pablo Escobar story.
Speaker 5: I don't have to tell a story. Half of the
Speaker 5: country hates him, despises him, and half of the country
Speaker 5: loves them. Right, So depending on who you talk to,
Speaker 5: you're gonna get a different story. So if you talk
Speaker 5: to some of the people that he might be responsible
Speaker 5: for killing and you know, ruining lives and all the things,
Speaker 5: then they would tell you that he's the devil, he's
Speaker 5: the worst person in the world. But then I went
Speaker 5: to a community, I forget what it's called, but it's
Speaker 5: Pablo Eskebar community where he built I think like three
Speaker 5: hundred homes for poor people, right, And he built the
Speaker 5: whole community. He built the hospital, he built homes, restaurants,
Speaker 5: grocery stores, He literally built the community for poor people,
Speaker 5: and everybody lived rent free, everybody had a home. They
Speaker 5: got murals of them on the wall. To this day,
Speaker 5: they still got murals of them, like he's he's a saint. Right.
Speaker 5: So life is complicated, right, And depending on who you
Speaker 5: ask opinion, you're gonna get a clearly different answer.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 3: So there was in the part where he's building the refinery,
Speaker 3: there was some some some negative press where people had
Speaker 3: lived near the land.
Speaker 5: And he came in, he cleared the land, so that's
Speaker 5: that's it.
Speaker 4: Then didn't provide homes or anything.
Speaker 5: So they said he cleared off the land to make
Speaker 5: wrong but then he build two hunchd homes for poor people.
Speaker 5: So it's like.
Speaker 3: And his thing is like he doesn't even want to
Speaker 3: be remembered as the wealthiest person of African descent. He'd
Speaker 3: rather be known as a philanthropist and that's honorable. Like
Speaker 3: he just wants to be the person that has given back,
Speaker 3: and he has a chance to like what we said,
Speaker 3: if you think about it, like his country relies on imports,
Speaker 3: he has a chance to reverse their entire trajectory and
Speaker 3: be a country that is pretty much making their revenue
Speaker 3: from exporting their resources.
Speaker 5: So that's I mean, now that's a good story. And
Speaker 5: then also it's just you know, we like to highlight
Speaker 5: business people and we want to give people inspiration and
Speaker 5: hope and just just different figures. Right, Like we all
Speaker 5: know who Warren Buffett is. We know who Bill Gates is,
Speaker 5: so why should we not know who he is?
Speaker 3: I doubt and I mean I work in schools. This
Speaker 3: is his name is never being brought up.
Speaker 5: But there's a bunch of people. We got Robert Smith,
Speaker 5: who's the richest black American. He's a billionaire, and a
Speaker 5: lot of people don't know he.
Speaker 4: They have well, Rob Johnson before him, and he wasn't
Speaker 4: brought up.
Speaker 5: But even Rob Johnson, he's still in sports entertainment on
Speaker 5: a certain level, but Robert Smith is in private equity.
Speaker 5: So we're going to try to highlight different people from
Speaker 5: different walks of life, but business in particular, because I
Speaker 5: think it's important for people to see these people and
Speaker 5: to just know about him. You don't have to be
Speaker 5: a fan of him or not, but at least you
Speaker 5: should be aware of the.
Speaker 3: Power of presence and the power of perceptions. Like at
Speaker 3: least I've seen somebody who can do that, is doing this.
Speaker 3: It's powerful. If we've never seen that, like, then we
Speaker 3: may expire to be an athlete or somebody entertainment. It's like,
Speaker 3: oh wait, there's somebody doing something else in this avenue.
Speaker 3: Oh I can do this too, right, So the power
Speaker 3: of just seeing yourself and somebody successful, you can't measure.
Speaker 5: It now, you can't. And once again, shout out to Africa,
Speaker 5: uh South Africa, to Nigeria, Ghana, Ethiopia, Somalia, all that, Egypt.
Speaker 5: We're gonna go to Africa very soon. I have unfortunately
Speaker 5: I have not been to Africa yet. I've been a
Speaker 5: lot of different places but I have not been to Africa,
Speaker 5: so that's on my to do list. I'm looking forward
Speaker 5: to it. I'm very excited and yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 5: out there for sure.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being forced bad, drop, drop,
Speaker 5: drop a job.
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