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Speaker 1: from the insiders who cover the teams. Drilled by Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons is bawling, Bring it on, Bring it on.

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Speaker 1: Swim the ground by Buda Baker like a torpedo. He

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Speaker 1: Paul caldc. You know what, not every single podcast am

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Speaker 1: I gonna bring the energy, the intensity, the urgency. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll just start this episode of Cardinals Underground, brought to

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Speaker 1: How about that Polly podcast over there, Danny Serek? How

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Speaker 1: about Darren Urban And you know what, though, when you're

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Speaker 1: stinking have come off, you're eleventh loss in twelve games

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Speaker 1: against Sean McVay, who, by the way, who anointed him

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Speaker 1: America's coach. Don't make me go into that ran again,

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Speaker 1: because it wasn't that long after their latest loss to

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Speaker 1: the Rams where I saw him in his stinkin soup

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Speaker 1: commercial up there at a podium doing his coaching up

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Speaker 1: of America act, which we don't need. And now you're

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Speaker 1: going against the Carolina team. Everybody now that the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have not beaten since the two thousand and eight playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So you know what, there's no room for you know,

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Speaker 1: the happy go lucky Paully pencil neck over here. And

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Speaker 1: I'll just reiterate what I said after the game, maybe

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Speaker 1: half seriously, maybe half jokingly. I'd cut a guy just

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Speaker 1: for the sake of cutting a guy after that loss

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Speaker 1: in the manner in which you lost, honestly, And I

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Speaker 1: think that guy was Deontay Thompson. Less than an hour

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Speaker 1: ago before the recording to this. That guy, Deonte Thompson

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Speaker 1: just got cut. He was the guy who failed on

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Speaker 1: the punt block. Now there's a lot more blamed to

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Speaker 1: go along around. It's not just the Cardinals offense that

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Speaker 1: has been starting slow. You got to realize, Danny, and

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Speaker 1: I know you do that the Cardinals defense in each

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Speaker 1: in every game this season has allowed a scoring drive

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Speaker 1: on the first three possessions of the game by the opponent.

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Speaker 1: So this is team wide, locker room wide. Although if

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Speaker 1: you're going to send a message in the NFL, usually

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Speaker 1: it revolves around job security, mission accomplished. Hopefully, this is

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Speaker 1: absolutely a complimentary football issue. I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: we can put on special teams, considering that was the

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Speaker 1: only part of the team that put up any points

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Speaker 1: is not just an offense problem. This is defense as well,

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Speaker 1: and the slow start, and when you look at this schedule,

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Speaker 1: these are teams that are very prolific. They are offense heavy,

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Speaker 1: them off the board. I do think your defense, to

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Speaker 1: an extent, is giving you what you expected. We knew

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Speaker 1: last year. You entered this season knowing the defense was

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Speaker 1: and that has not been happening, I guess. But you know,

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Speaker 1: necessarily because of a lack of talent. There have been

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Speaker 1: failings of the defense terms of alignment and assignment and

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Speaker 1: how you're fitting things. You know, when Cooper Cup is

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Speaker 1: So to me, it's a kin to a Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: all those chunk plays by the Rams over the first

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Speaker 1: last week, Paul, didn't I say that, or maybe it

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Speaker 1: was simply on the radio before the game where I said,

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Speaker 1: because we saw it last year. It just usually doesn't happen,

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Speaker 1: okay with that. Defensive performance led in time of possession

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Speaker 1: like that's going to be a really big hurdle mentally

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Speaker 1: getting over themselves. Well, how about this and what Matt

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Speaker 1: rules in his third season? Yep, And I can't remember

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Speaker 1: seventeen points. I'd have to check, but I think every

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Speaker 1: one of the Panthers wins under Matt Rule has come

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Speaker 1: that's a really important thing because you can't go and

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Speaker 1: You probably not. And that's been the strength. Brian Burns

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Speaker 1: He's a player. He's a player. They use them in

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Speaker 1: the way, for those who are barking and squawking and

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Speaker 1: like the last two years, that's all I mean. Other

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Speaker 1: save it? No? Go ahead and tell him. I messaged Darren.

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Speaker 1: We sit in the press box. What we said probably

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Speaker 1: dollars on the podcast. Let's see now. So I'm sorry

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Speaker 1: definitely heard it. There's no doubt about it, stopping that

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Speaker 1: have the balanced offense. What was most intriguing, among other comments,

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Speaker 1: was when Cliff Kingsbury said after the game that there

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Speaker 1: was a whole portion of our playsheet and game plan

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Speaker 1: we couldn't even get to that We was and so

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Speaker 1: because we get behind so quickly and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you're not balanced and maybe you have to go up

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Speaker 1: temple when you don't want to go up tempo or

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Speaker 1: vice versa. So you know, he didn't. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was funny. I asked him after the game about did

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Speaker 1: you want to grind it out on offense a little

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Speaker 1: bit to keep the Rams offense off the field. And

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Speaker 1: then that's when he said, He's like, no, we didn't

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Speaker 1: get to that's not what our plan was. And it

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Speaker 1: was funny because I think in a lot of ways

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Speaker 1: the long drives did help them because it did keep

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Speaker 1: the RAMS offense off the field. And if one of

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Speaker 1: those first two long drives gets in the end zone,

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Speaker 1: how different is that game? I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 1: The game that you beat the Rams and we said

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Speaker 1: at umpteen times you ran at forty times for two

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Speaker 1: hundred and sixteen yards better than five yards to carry?

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Speaker 1: Why how because you had a lead. But you also,

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Speaker 1: to me exploited. A Rams liability is that they're not

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Speaker 1: exactly a Ram tough team. Aaron Donald yes, Jalen Ramsey yes.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise they're not known as an ultra physical team. If

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Speaker 1: you're going to line up in some power formations, you

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Speaker 1: can run and blast the Rams, which is exactly what

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals did in that fourth course. Remember that final

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Speaker 1: drive Week four a year ago where they ran at

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Speaker 1: twelve play scoring drive, eleven of them were runs and

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Speaker 1: they took like eight minutes off the clock. So did

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Speaker 1: a whole story about it. Okay, so you know, but

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Speaker 1: you weren't in that position to be able to do that,

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Speaker 1: although the game was thirteen nine at one point, and

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Speaker 1: and if Zaven Collins makes that sack, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was you know, yeah, there were three plays by

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Speaker 1: Zaven Collins that I'm sure he wants back. There was

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Speaker 1: the sack, There was, there was. They had the near sack,

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Speaker 1: the Cooper Cup twenty yard touchdown run where he went

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Speaker 1: towards the cardinal sideline while Cooper Cup was going towards

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Speaker 1: the Rams sideline. But he wasn't the only one. Wasn't

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Speaker 1: the only one. I mean, most of the front seven

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Speaker 1: went the wrong way. Even Marco Wilson, the corner on

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Speaker 1: the far side, who was supposed to be the last

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Speaker 1: line of defense, was going the wrong way and he

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Speaker 1: was twenty yards behind the line of scrimmage. And then

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Speaker 1: the other one was the Camaker's fourteen yard touchdown run

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Speaker 1: where number eighteen, the receiver turned fullback, came screaming off

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Speaker 1: tackle with a heck of a lead block that took

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Speaker 1: out Zaven and sprung the running back look. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier poor tackling, and I'm not just talking about those

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Speaker 1: open field tackles. It's that sack was Zavin, I mean

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. He rolled out and hit Cooper Cup for

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Speaker 1: eleven yards for the first down and LA goes on

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Speaker 1: to score touchdown that drive. Those are just opportunities you

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Speaker 1: have to capitalize on. And again especially with the pass

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Speaker 1: rush that I haven't seen a lot of well, and

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Speaker 1: again not just the pass rush, which is funny because

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Speaker 1: ESPN still has the Cardinals overall is the best passin

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Speaker 1: pass rush win rate in the league. And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't if they are where you're going to have

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Speaker 1: come from one player. I know, um, but for me,

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Speaker 1: it's not just that you know they went on to

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Speaker 1: score the touchdown. It's like, when you're struggling like this,

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Speaker 1: those are the plays you need. You need somebody to

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Speaker 1: make a play. That's okay, you can't necessarily plan for it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, but you need somebody to go above

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Speaker 1: and beyond. You need to make sure that Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: doesn't get away from you or or if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're Hollywood Brown and Kyler Murray, you make sure that

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Speaker 1: bomb gets completed, whether it's throwing it a little bit

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Speaker 1: better Kyler or Hollywood, maybe even laying out for it

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Speaker 1: to see if you have a chance to and it

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Speaker 1: was close enough, if he dies, does it does it

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Speaker 1: do you have a chance? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Those are those are the things that you need that

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Speaker 1: individual play, kind of like you did in the Raiders

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Speaker 1: game where Kyler did it about seventeen times, where you

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Speaker 1: have an individual carry the team for a moment through

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Speaker 1: the rough times. And again if Zavan Collins does that,

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Speaker 1: there's yet another three and out for the Rams. They're punning,

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Speaker 1: you're only down thirteen nine. You finally have the chance

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Speaker 1: to take a lead if you get a touchdown. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like the game totally would have been different

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Speaker 1: if if that had happened, and maybe not by the

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Speaker 1: way that that pass rush win rate that as the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals number one in the NFL right now, it's just

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Speaker 1: a reminder that the analytics are nice, but they're a tool.

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Speaker 1: Please do not rely one hundred percent on the analytics.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like after Week one when Patrick Malmes

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Speaker 1: was the eighth best rated quarterback in the NFL based

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Speaker 1: on the Week one games. If that's Pro Football Focus. Yea,

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Speaker 1: so these are two which which is funny you're saying

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Speaker 1: that because I'm pretty sure Pro Football Focus has the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals is the worst pass rushing team or one of

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Speaker 1: the worst. Yeah, So to me, the challenge was what

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay said after the game when they asked about

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals running eighty one plays in the game, and

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Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's response was, as I look for the exact

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Speaker 1: quote was here, just make them snap it one more time.

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Speaker 1: That was his approach, meaning, we're just gonna let him

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Speaker 1: take little chunks of real estate and we'll see if

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Speaker 1: they can mount what we saw as a nineteen play,

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Speaker 1: seventeen play, sixteen play drive. By the way, that's some

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Speaker 1: sort of historic stat for the Arizona Cardinals. Never before

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Speaker 1: they'd done more than a sixteen play drive once in

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Speaker 1: a game, and they did it three times. Yes, so

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Speaker 1: it already got four drives of I think sixteen or

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Speaker 1: more plays, right, and they had four all last season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think is it tied or already more two

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Speaker 1: point conversions than last year? Right? Three? They had none

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Speaker 1: the last two years, Okay, either the last three this year. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So the whole thing just make them snap at one

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Speaker 1: more time. Quote unquote from Sean McVay shows you what

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are facing right now when it comes to

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Speaker 1: defensive philosophies from their opponents. They're going to run the

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Speaker 1: soft shell, the two high safety, and they're going to

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Speaker 1: keep everything underneath. They're not going to allow you the

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Speaker 1: big chunk play. Cardinals had one. It was to Greg Dortche.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it was with Kyler on the move

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Speaker 1: out of the pocket. Hint, hint. Maybe I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but you know that was The other intriguing thing was

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Speaker 1: when Kyler told the media that, you know what, the

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Speaker 1: Rams rush me differently than other teams. And every single

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Speaker 1: Rams defensive player after the game, Aaron Donald, Leonard Floyd,

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Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, the first thing they cited about their defensive

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Speaker 1: game plan and the effort in the win was we

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Speaker 1: kept Kyler in the pocket. They are hell bent on

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Speaker 1: keeping Kyler Murray in the pocket the Rams, and they

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Speaker 1: think if they can do that, they can win the

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Speaker 1: game because Kyler's yet to prove to the Rams defense

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Speaker 1: that he can stay in the pocket and beat them

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Speaker 1: down field with a passing attack. I mean, when you

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Speaker 1: look at this receiving corps, was that the wrong game plan?

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Speaker 1: I think that's what I would have done. Ballid point,

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, And maybe that's why he targeted aj

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Speaker 1: Green like he did, just based on the size and

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Speaker 1: what is aj Green? That the other receivers are not

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Speaker 1: six foot four, and so he maybe he liked his

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Speaker 1: chances just with that and just body up against against

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Speaker 1: So then yeah, AJ Green could have high pointed it.

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Speaker 1: And it doesn't look like we're gonna see AJ Green

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Speaker 1: at least against Carolina. Well you want to, yeah, But

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Speaker 1: again that's the challenge to me. If you're the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: on offense right now, how do you beat these soft

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Speaker 1: shell two high safety zones? And I think the answer

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Speaker 1: is obvious. You gotta run it, right, I mean, if

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Speaker 1: they're gonna pull a safety out of the box, you

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Speaker 1: got to be able to run it. And I would

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals do have the ability to run it.

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Speaker 1: When I look at the Cardinals offense versus some of

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Speaker 1: these other offensive lines they've already played, whether it's the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: whether it's the Rams, Carol Line's offensive line, it's been

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Speaker 1: a huge liability for years, and I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: much better this year. I think the Cardinals offensive line

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Speaker 1: intact is a strength. So can they mount that run

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Speaker 1: game with a combination of James Connor and Darryl Williams

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Speaker 1: Ando Benjamin You'd like to think so, but once again,

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Speaker 1: Carolina's defense to your point, Darren esmond stout the last

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Speaker 1: couple of times they've played, and if the weather, if

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Speaker 1: Hurricane Ian is going to dump torrential rain on the

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Speaker 1: field on Paul Kalvis Danny surrec pre game and Paul

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Speaker 1: KALVICI during the game. You know, let's not make it

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Speaker 1: about ourselves. But Danny, I've been down on my calendar. Friday,

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Speaker 1: after we're done with everything, all the content assignments, we

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Speaker 1: have to go into the equipment room and check the

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Speaker 1: media bag and make sure all the rain gears in there,

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna look like the guy from the fish

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Speaker 1: Dick's commercial, the fisherman on the yes that's that's going

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Speaker 1: to be. You're up. Where is the where is the

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Speaker 1: bucket hat? And is it water? Is waterproof? It was

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Speaker 1: on my to do list today to talk to you

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Speaker 1: about you. I know you have experienced being out on

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Speaker 1: the field in the rain because I was talking to

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Speaker 1: Craig Greenley about it today. I'm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: what to wear of Do I wear the bucket hat under?

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Speaker 1: I guess my rain coat, rain boots. The rainslicker does

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Speaker 1: have a hood. I highly recommend the hood. You might

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Speaker 1: want to do the bucket hat and the hood. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying I might have to bring the bucket hat

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Speaker 1: because see what you don't want. Unlike the players, we

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Speaker 1: have no ability for a postgame shower. So if you

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Speaker 1: get on the plane and you're soaking, wet or sopping,

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Speaker 1: then guess what you have five to six hours of

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Speaker 1: that on the trip home and it's no fun. And

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Speaker 1: guests who gets to sit in the row right in

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Speaker 1: front of me? Mister Darren Urban himself? Yeah, so um,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Um. Last time we had a really

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Speaker 1: bad when it was at Miami and Patrick Peterson was laughing.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't really bad. That was horrific. It was biblical.

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Speaker 1: I actually felt bad for you, Paul. It was, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was awful, too bad, pat pet In

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Speaker 1: because he growed up. He grew up like twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: from there, and he kept laughing. He's walking by. What's

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Speaker 1: the problem, Paul? He could tell I was miserable. There

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Speaker 1: was and it was funny that Miami game. There was

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Speaker 1: actually a couple couple times when it stopped raining. But

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Speaker 1: during the game, and especially right at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game, it was like and the Cardinals were should

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Speaker 1: have won that game. It was a miserable year. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: they made a couple of mistakes, and I swear to God,

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Speaker 1: the hardest ragin came in like the last five minutes

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Speaker 1: when it was all decided. Anyways, did Jarvis Landry went

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Speaker 1: off in that game? I remember, get a bunch of

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Speaker 1: garbage yards at the end. We're just avoiding you know

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Speaker 1: what is in front of us right now. Let me

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Speaker 1: just say this about the pass rush. Guess what, jj

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Speaker 1: wat has two sacks. It's the Cardinals only two sacks.

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen is great out really well speaking analytics, and

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think our eyeballs confirmed that he's

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Speaker 1: played really well. Maybe there's a contract coming for Zach

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Speaker 1: Allen and the next month or so. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's just me thinking out loud, but the edge right

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Speaker 1: now with the promotion of Jesse Luketta from the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're not gonna have any energy intensity

642
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: urgency issues with a Jesse Luketta, which is I think

643
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: another reason they brought him up. I mean that dude

644
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: plays with his hair on fire. We saw that in

645
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: training camp. Honestly, I think there's a correlation there. But

646
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: right now you have seven outside linebackers and two safeties.

647
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: My thought with Luketta is is he's I mean, Deontay

648
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: Thompson is barely playing any defense. He was all about

649
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: special teams, so you needed if you were going to

650
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: move on from Deontay Thompson, you probably wanted somebody for

651
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: special teams and that when they drafted just Luketta, they're

652
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: hoping he can turn into a defensive player. But they

653
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: absolutely drafted him thinking he could be a special team's

654
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: core player, and that's this is the start of that.

655
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I would think maybe your backup safety now is the

656
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,479
Speaker 1: one and only Isaiah Simmons. With TOMPs sense what I

657
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: was thinking. Mm, so what does that mean? What do

658
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: you make it to Isaiah sim I'm sure you get

659
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: that you're out and about Danny, and you know inevitably

660
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: someone's going to ask you about Isaiah Simmons out of

661
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: bed bath and beyond checking out the new linens and saying,

662
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: what about Isaiah Simmons. I don't know, could have been fries.

663
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: Maybe you're at no, Yes, no, I do I go

664
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: to the stores. I go the grocery store. You're making

665
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: it sound like I would, I don't know, never go

666
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: there like late. I'm saying, you're just at this range

667
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: a Trader Joe's, then Friday Traders Joe and somebody comes

668
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: up and says, Isaiah Simmons, what's the deal, Yeah, what

669
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: is the deal? Go ahead, I'm just gonna lean back

670
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: and listen to your answer while she's checking out the cauliflower.

671
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: Jo Nana Calvci would be none too happy with that.

672
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Pronunciations are ridiculous. Um, it's very interesting. His snap count

673
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: in Vegas was fifteen. I believe it was sixteen against

674
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: the Rams, correct, although although to clarify that there were

675
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: way fewer defensive snaps. So he played a third of

676
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: the time against the Rams, even though it was only

677
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: one more, still did not start. Nope. Um, even though

678
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 1: he's announced with the starters. Very interesting the PA yes, interesting. UM.

679
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: I mean we've talked about it. I don't think I

680
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: agree with I know, Darren, you've brought this up. I

681
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: think it was on um pregame on the radio of

682
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: this is not a situation with Isaiah Simmons where he

683
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: had a bad game Week one against the Chiefs and

684
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: this is the result of that. The entire defense played poorly.

685
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: To decrease his snap count from one hundred percent to

686
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: now fifteen and sixteen and consecutive weeks is something that

687
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,760
Speaker 1: I believe has kind of been a long time coming.

688
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure we'll ever as the media get the

689
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: full truth of Is this have to do with coming

690
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: and thinking you already had that starting role, Does it

691
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: have to do with film, Does it have to do

692
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: with leadership? Does? I don't think we're ever going to

693
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: know the true reason. But I don't think this is

694
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: strictly play. If that were the case, the way Isaiah

695
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: played in Vegas would have increased his snap count this

696
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: following week because he played well and he had that

697
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: game winning play. It is interesting to me that we

698
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: hear in the offseason, You've got this starbacker Isaiah as

699
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: Paul likes to say, the hybrid player. Hybrid, that's what

700
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: the players call him, the hybrid. What's so funny? What's

701
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: so funny? It's the way you said ducking it in.

702
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just saying it's it's very interesting

703
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: that to be told and have this expectation that he

704
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 1: was going to be the key to this defense because

705
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: teams were not going to know how to line up

706
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: against him, and he has this skill set, and now

707
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: the team is not even really using him. It's just

708
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: very interesting because that, obviously, with that expectations of Simmons

709
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: affected the way you drafted and attacked free agency, with

710
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: your pass rush and with your secondary and now I'm

711
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: not really sure what his role is going to look

712
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: like in the future. Okay, so we're sitting here a

713
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: week from today, and let's say he doesn't play one

714
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: hundred percent of the snaps. Let's say it's similar to

715
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 1: what he's been Are we talking about this again? Well,

716
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: if when, when does it fade as a as a topic. Well,

717
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: speaking of talking and again, what if Cliff Kingsbury says

718
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: again that he practiced really well at a great practice week,

719
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: because he said that a couple of weeks running, but

720
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: then the snaps belie the scoutering report. But I'm but

721
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: I like Cliff has also been a lot more open

722
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: about the competition and why you know, with Isaiah and

723
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: Marco Wilson in preseason of his reasoning behind this, I

724
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: don't necessarily think it's bad practice. I'm wondering if the

725
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: way they're using him, do you think is it harder

726
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: for him to see what's going on. I'm really not sure. Look,

727
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: this is this and there was the whiplash comment last week,

728
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: the whiplash he's given us whiplash, which I think I

729
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: translated that as to the boom or bus nature of

730
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,799
Speaker 1: his play, that he's had some great, unbelievable plays, but

731
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: then there's been the bust factor in plays that Dance

732
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: Joseph has cited as well. You have to bring the

733
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: consistency that coaches have to trust you, that you have

734
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: to be in the right spot at the right time,

735
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: and enough guys, like after week one there were enough

736
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: people who cited leverage issues, so you have to be

737
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: on the right side of Travis Kelsey, because that's where

738
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: your help was on the other side. And if you're not,

739
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, he's got a free release

740
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: and he's an open space and there's either a chunk

741
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: player or a touchdown. This has always been my I've

742
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: kind of followed this for a long long time, And

743
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if a coach says it or if

744
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: a player says it. I tend to believe whoever says

745
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: there have been bad practices. If somebody says there's been

746
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: good practices, I don't care. It doesn't mean anything. And

747
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: because I feel like bad practices is a catch all

748
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of that could be on the field, that could

749
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: be in the meeting room, that could be you're not

750
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: paying attention to what you're doing on the field in

751
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: terms of some of the fundamentals, good practices doesn't mean

752
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: anything to me. And so when Cliff says he's had

753
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: a bunch of good practices, when Vance says he's had

754
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: a bunch of good practices, I just that kind of

755
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: bounces off me, kind of you know, the bullets off Superman. Yeah,

756
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's a good point of here. Oh my gosh,

757
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: that like just clicked up my head of what you said.

758
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: That rings true because think of the fact that after

759
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: the first game, the way that the Cardinals lost the Chiefs,

760
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: it was practice good. We need better practice habits, we

761
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: need a sense of urgency. And it's like a catch

762
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: all phrase that isn't getting real specific, but it means

763
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: something to be good. Practice doesn't mean it. That's a

764
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: problem too, is if it's week one and we're are

765
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 1: already being told there wasn't enough urgency and practice habits

766
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: need to change, and now through week three, on top

767
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: of that, we're hearing from the quarterback of people need

768
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: to be awake what the heck is going on with

769
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: the focus, whether that's during the week or out on

770
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: the game day. That especially this early on in the season,

771
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: where is the disconnect? And then the defensive side, when

772
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: JJ Watt says, and I'm quoting, you can't have miracle

773
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: comebacks every single week. You have to play sound football.

774
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: So it's sort of the inverse of what the quarterback

775
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: is saying about the offense. So to hit zoom out

776
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: for a minute, guess what this is all correctable, but

777
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like it's a team that is completely

778
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: locked in yet, which brings me to my working theory

779
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: right now? How many times? How many I'm not going

780
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: to put it under the hot take category. It's just

781
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 1: a working theory. Maybe it's simmering on a backburner at

782
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: this point. How many times have we heard it's a

783
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: marathon not a sprint. Is this team pacing itself and

784
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: it doesn't even know it's pacing itself. Is this team

785
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: subconsciously just trying to stay healthy and stay at being

786
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: an NBA team right now? Honestly? You know, it's great analogy,

787
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: mister basketball, that's a great analogy. You know what, who

788
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: cares about October, November, December? You know what, The NBA

789
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: season starts on Christmas Day. And as long as we're

790
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: in the hunt now, we can go ahead and go forward.

791
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, as long as we're not mathematical eliminated, As

792
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: long as we're not mathematically eliminated by Halloween. No one's

793
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: going to give us credit for wins in September and

794
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: October anyway, based in the last couple of years. So

795
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: let's wait until guess what, it's November and December, and

796
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: then you're gonna see, as I pound my chest. What

797
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals all about? You know what, I wouldn't

798
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 1: go so far as to say that this TA team

799
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: knows that they're pacing themselves, But you bring up an

800
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: interesting thought of maybe this is going to be better

801
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: for the team in the long run, seeing the seven

802
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: and oh tending to start last year and then falling

803
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: off when it was important at the end of last season,

804
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: unable to handle that adversity, that maybe if they handle

805
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: this now and they're able to kind of when they

806
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: get a lot of those players on ird hoop who's

807
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: suspended back, maybe that's when things get rolling. But I'm

808
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 1: not sure if it's there pacing themselves not even knowing it,

809
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: especially if you're talking about being healthy, because this team

810
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: is not healthy. I think I just literally, you know, prescient,

811
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: have I can tell the future? I just I just

812
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: audibly heard fans who are listening to this. I heard

813
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: their eyes rolling as you guys both try to give

814
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: some substance to we're going to pace ourselves. I'm not

815
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: necessarily giving substance. I'm saying maybe if that's like if

816
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: if they're going to lose pick up team at the

817
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: back end. But I'm not saying they're Sara, let me clarify.

818
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's up on the grease board number one,

819
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: pace yourself. I'm not saying it's an overt stated game plan.

820
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm saying subconsciously, maybe this team is in that mode.

821
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is that comes across whether it's even

822
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: being suggested, and even if any of them are thinking that,

823
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: that is absolutely lipstick on a pig type of analysis

824
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: right now, because I feel like, first of all, I

825
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: made the joke about the NBA, but the difference in

826
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: the NBA is there's eighty two games and if you

827
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: kind of tread well, and oh, by the way, you

828
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: get eight teams in the playoffs, and ten teams qualify

829
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: to potentially get in the playoffs. So that that is

830
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: not the case in this league, and I feel you

831
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: can fall too far. Buy I've said all along. If

832
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: they're three and three after six games and Hopkins comes back,

833
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: then they probably have done what they were hoping to do. Now,

834
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: when I said I hope they can go three and three,

835
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking a competitive three and three. I was

836
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: thinking an offense that was going to be scoring twenty

837
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: five to thirty points a game, and yeah, okay, maybe

838
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: you don't. You can't beat Mahomes and maybe the Super

839
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: Bowl champs beat you. And there's one other game that

840
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: which is now looking like it would be probably the Eagles. Okay,

841
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: those are tough teams right now. I get it, you

842
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: don't have your best offensive player. But if they play

843
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: like this, are they going to Seattle and winning? Are

844
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: they going to Carolina and winning? Well, there's two things

845
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 1: this team does. They went on the road and they

846
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: win in Seattle. So yes, I'm marking down a Carolina

847
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: win despite the recent history in this series, because you're

848
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:40,720
Speaker 1: nine and one in your last ten road games. Actually,

849
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: it's because you don't want to think you're just gonna

850
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: get rained on for no reason. You're a darn tune.

851
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: There better be a win if we're going to stand

852
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Speaker 1: on that rainy sideline for four hours, you're right. And

853
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: then number two, they always win in Seattle, just like

854
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: last year against the last place Seahawks with their backup quarterback,

855
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: and it left coach Double Rainbow distraught after the game

856
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: and the whole deal, and then they ended up blowing

857
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: up the team and the whole trading. The quarterback away

858
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: is Russell Wilson done? Like I'm watching him for the

859
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: Broncos right now, and he does not look all that.

860
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe coach double rainbow and nobody was taking well.

861
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: And you know how it works in sports. You better

862
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: know your own players, right true, any sport, any team,

863
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: the biggest fault is if you don't know your own players.

864
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: For example, Chandler Jones leaving the Cardinals. Have they regretted

865
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: that yet? Probably not, Probably not, especially at that level,

866
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: at that investment level. Yeah, yeah, most definitely not so okay,

867
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: But once again you got to figure out, you know.

868
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: And cam Cox is over there Channel twelve and I

869
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: did this post game hit with him and he's all,

870
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, Dan, he's always asking for give me an assessment,

871
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: you know, give me a grade on the draft two

872
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: hours after the draft. You know, the predictions stuff all

873
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: the time. You know, CALVC, what's your level of concern

874
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: right now? Was the question? Okay, after three games and

875
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,879
Speaker 1: I'm trying to deflect it a little bit. I'm trying

876
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: to get some some actual analysis, and he keeps hammrrying

877
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 1: me with the level of concern and I said, well, okay,

878
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: the offense, I'm not concerned yet because I see I

879
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: see the weapons. I see an intact and above average

880
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: offensive line. I see running back talent. Guess what you're

881
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: getting reinforcements in this secondary and Trayvon Mullino's coming along

882
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton or just tweeted out a video to go

883
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: along with the best pair of safeties in the league.

884
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: The inside linebacker spot, We'll bet little bit of concern

885
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: there when you're seeing the likes of Nick Vigil and

886
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 1: Ben Nieman and Tanner Vallejo getting more snaps than Isaiah Simmons.

887
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: And now what's the status is Zavian Collins And he's

888
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: zy gonna lose snaps if he's losing track of where

889
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 1: he needs to be in terms of alignment and Simon,

890
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: that's to be determined. But the interior d line I

891
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: like up until with Shard Lawrence had a hand injury

892
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: and I saw the same thing Darren with the cast

893
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I saw you put on asy Cardinals dot Com. So

894
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: what does that mean? We don't know, but I do

895
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: like J. J. Watton and Zach Allen, as we mentioned,

896
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: it's that edge rush, the inability to get home right now.

897
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: So okay, now, Marcus Golden has had a track record

898
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 1: or maybe taken a couple of games to get into shape,

899
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: get into real game shape, and then he just explodes

900
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: and he goes off like got a six game bender

901
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: where he gives you a whole bunch of sacks. So

902
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: if you're a Cardinals fan, you hope that's coming. But

903
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest with you when you see,

904
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: for example, a guy like Jerry Hughes who signed with

905
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and is now among the leader league

906
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: leaders in sacks. He has four, and he's right up

907
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: there with the Micah Parsons and the Joey Boss of

908
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: the world. And he's a guy twelve year vet, he's

909
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: just turned thirty four, I get it. But he got

910
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 1: four point five million guaranteed over two years, and he's

911
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: a viable threat off the edge. And that's something this

912
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: team could desperately use right now. A proven veteran entity

913
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: off the edge. And that's what I wonder. Is that

914
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: going to change everything else? I can see, you know what?

915
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: That can trend upward and trend towards a positive. I

916
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: think the unknown right now and that and honestly, let's

917
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: we're in the trust tree right here on Cardinals Underground,

918
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: brought you by Pacific Office Automation. For three of us,

919
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: what's the football IQ of this team and at times

920
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: this defense. I'm not just putting you guys know I'm

921
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: a little different from you. I'm not putting it all

922
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: on the offense. I mean when Matthew Stafford the next

923
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: gen stat was his play action rate was he was

924
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: ten of eleven on play action for a buck sixty

925
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: eight Cardinals is going to see a lot of that

926
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: play action I think from Baker Mayfield and Christian McCaffrey.

927
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: I would think so and so can they Can they

928
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: read and react and be in the right place at

929
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: the right time. Are they going to fall susceptible to that?

930
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: Because Matthew Stafford was very successful with play action against

931
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in this Week three win by the Rams. Yeah,

932
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not all on the on the offense.

933
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Rather the defense absolutely has to play better. And again,

934
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: you look at the schedule and it really doesn't get

935
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: much easier than what they've seen. We are looking at

936
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: the offensive weapons that they're going to be facing. There's

937
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: there's a lot that they have to figure out. I

938
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: know we've touched on it is how much of this

939
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: is personnel, right, how much of this is having to

940
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: adjust the scheme for that. I think I just think

941
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: maybe the expectations of certain players was how you shaped

942
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: this defense, and you know, like Isaiah Simmons of I

943
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: think that affected the way they attacked the pass rush

944
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: or maybe they're maybe the secondary and them feeling okay

945
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 1: with the pass rush that they had because you had

946
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: that dynamic ability with Isaiah Simmons and your past rush.

947
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: I mean, your top three draft picks and Trey McBride,

948
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: my Ja Sanders, and Cam Thomas, you've had a collective

949
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, at the top of my head, maybe

950
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: seven snaps. My JA hasn't been active for a single game,

951
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: and I know that they're rookies and maybe a little

952
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: more raw, but you drafted maybe not so much Tray

953
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: McBride when you have Zach Ertz and Max Williams came back,

954
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: but Sanders and Thomas. You drafted these two players because

955
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: you needed immediate help on the pass rush. And the

956
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: fact that through three games we still have seen nothing.

957
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: It's a little concerning to me. And I don't know

958
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: if that's if that the expectation of expecting more from

959
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: them was unfair from where they were to start their

960
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: careers or what the deal is. But to me, the

961
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: fact that you have Sanders who hasn't even played a

962
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: game yet, I mean that that's why you didn't bring

963
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: in a big free agent was because you felt good

964
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: about your pass rush. Did you see? And Darren, this

965
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: might be a note crazy Cardinals dot Com CALVCI consult

966
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Speaker 1: Helping might have something for you here, appreciate on the

967
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,240
Speaker 1: big red rage Max Williams, we asked him about Trey McBride,

968
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 1: because nobody really knows much about Trey McBride obviously at

969
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: this point. Yes, he missed a lot of camp, and

970
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: he obviously hasn't had much regular season action. And I'm

971
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Speaker 1: now quoting Max Williams, who was effusive in his praise.

972
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,320
Speaker 1: He literally got up on his on the edge of

973
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: his seat and was looking forward to answering the question Briden.

974
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: He said, and I quote, I think he's gonna be special.

975
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: He can block, not just a receiving tight end. He

976
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: can get down and dirty in the trenches. He's gonna

977
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: be special. I love the kid. He's awesome. He's special.

978
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 1: Like three times and it really it wasn't just media speak.

979
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 1: He didn't have to give that effusive an answer about

980
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: Trey McBride. It was really interesting. And and when you

981
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:24,439
Speaker 1: see the Colts, what Gilani Woods is the rookie tight

982
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: end who had two touchdown catches. He was taken in

983
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: round three, six seven, two fifty three right, and he

984
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: was a big difference in that Colts win over the weekend,

985
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: that rookie tight end. I'm like, Okay, especially if you're

986
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: down in a j green, maybe it's Trey McBride's time

987
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: to shine in a rainy game. Let's just run a

988
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: bunch of tight ends out there. First of all, was

989
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: the edge of the seat, Maxim was always it this seat.

990
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: It was in Danny seat. See old marketing mantra will

991
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: sell you the whole seat, but you only need the edge.

992
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: Got him. I don't know where Trey McBride sits right now.

993
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think again, we've seen it with Isaiah Simmons,

994
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: and I think we're seeing with Trey McBride. And it's

995
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: it's that whole, that whole trust thing with coaches, and

996
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: we've seen it for such a long time. Paul ken

997
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: Wissenhount was very much like this with rookies. He couldn't

998
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: handle playing rookies. Bruce Arians usually said their rookies aren't

999
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: ready until Thanksgiving, and that was DRC back in the day.

1000
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: I always think of DRC Dominique Rodgers Cromarty because in camp,

1001
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: in camp, you're like, oh my goodness, look at the

1002
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: speed on this guy in this corner, and look at

1003
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,959
Speaker 1: him run with Larry and cover and the size first

1004
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: round pick. Even we didn't even see him till once

1005
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: it get like thanks It was like late November in Seattle,

1006
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: I think, is where he finally made his debut DRC.

1007
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: Back in the day, I felt Beanie Wells to a

1008
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: certain extent. Beanie Wells was gonna have you know, his

1009
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: knees got messed up, but you know, they wanted to

1010
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: play Tim Hytower, and I loved Tim Higtower, but Tim

1011
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: Hytower had some fumbling issues that Ken Wizzenho got mad

1012
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: and he still wouldn't play Beanie Wells a ton And

1013
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:05,439
Speaker 1: it's like, but anyways, I understand where coaches come from

1014
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: in terms of the trust and all that, and you

1015
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: you have to be able to believe in And again,

1016
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: I think in some ways that's some of the problem

1017
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: with this team is because you're you have expectations quote unquote,

1018
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, whatever expectations you might have X and y

1019
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: that where you can win the division, and we're going

1020
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: to do this so that we need to kind of

1021
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: be here, Whereas it's not like we're trying to build

1022
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: up this team, so we're willing to give away some

1023
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: snaps while these guys kind of learn on the fly,

1024
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: whether it's Isaiah Simmons or Zavan Collins or Cameron Thomas

1025
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: or my j Sanders. It's funny you talk about the

1026
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes thing and signing a pass rusher. I mean,

1027
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: one of the reasons Devon Kennard got released and put

1028
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: on the practice squad initially was because they wanted to

1029
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: keep all these young outside linebackers and they didn't have

1030
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: any roster spots. So I don't know who you're cutting

1031
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: or you're not keeping if you go sign a veteran,

1032
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: and I think that was part of the problem. But

1033
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: now you're not you're gonna use I get it. I

1034
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: get you know, they're just burning a roster spot. And

1035
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes didn't even sign to like mid May, so

1036
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: you know it's it's gonna be interesting. They've got all

1037
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: these guys coming off of I r YEA. You need

1038
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: roster spots. Somebody's gonna have to get cut. You know,

1039
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: if Hamilton comes back, is does that mean Christian Matthew

1040
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: gets cut and they probably try and put him on

1041
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: the practice squad. I wouldn't be shocked given how little

1042
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: he's playing. But you know what I make that knowing

1043
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: in the locker room as well. Guess what, guys, TikTok

1044
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: here we go after this this week four game, there

1045
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: will be roster moves, there will be blood. Something's going

1046
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: down after this game. I do want to change my tune.

1047
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: I said a couple of weeks ago, when you've got

1048
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: five running backs and you got to bring players back,

1049
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: do you really need to keep Darryl Williams and Jonathan Ward?

1050
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: Because by that point darry Williams was only playing on

1051
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: special teams. And I would like to officially no that.

1052
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that I was wrong. I'm

1053
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: just going to change my mind and say that I'm

1054
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: not sure it's a running back who will get cut.

1055
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Speaker 1: On the record. By the way, um you see where

1056
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: Marquis Hollywood Brown is among the league leaders and receptions

1057
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 1: through three weeks. So you have Cooper Cup with twenty

1058
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: eight Cooper Cup and then you have Stefan Digs with

1059
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Speaker 1: twenty seven. Hollywood Brown has twenty four. I'man ras Saint

1060
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Speaker 1: Brown of the Lions. I probably screwed it up that

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Speaker 1: pronunciation as twenty three. And then do you know who

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Speaker 1: else also has twenty three receptions? Right now? The Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 1: the entire Chicago Bears receiver crew has twenty three receptions,

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Speaker 1: Chris Our Cooper Cup is leading the league with twenty

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Speaker 1: receptions and he had how many against the Gardens and

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Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown? That comes from last week because he had

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Speaker 1: six the first game, I think eleven, the second he

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Speaker 1: had seventeen. Now you're talking about targets. We're talking about

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Speaker 1: catch Oh targets. You're talking about Oh, we're talking about catches? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: never mind. So this is the open mic portion of

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Underground. Anything else that needs to be said that

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Speaker 1: you want to have said, and you need to be

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Speaker 1: heard on anything else, any rants, anything, er a grievances.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any of the above? Before I present

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Speaker 1: you with one last piece of information here I would

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Speaker 1: just it would be really nice to have this team

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Speaker 1: be two and two next week. Somebody asked me in

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Speaker 1: the mail bag if the podcast listenership went down after losses,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, I kind of said, I kind of chied,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, you're not listening to us. But

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Speaker 1: i mean, let's face it, everybody, every all the content

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Speaker 1: is consumed less after losses. That's just reality. Really. That's

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Speaker 1: interesting because, and I'm being dead serious about this. On

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Speaker 1: the sports radio side, I've worked for people who actually

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Speaker 1: said it was better Monday morning after a loss really

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Speaker 1: because the listeners the iyer was up, the disdain in

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Speaker 1: the angst was amplified, people were more apt to listen

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Speaker 1: as to the criticism or a call in and bent that.

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Speaker 1: So that's interesting that it would be the inverse and

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Speaker 1: some of the other content that's that's out there. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a prediction this game. Like I said,

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Speaker 1: I do think the Cardinals win. I think they went

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Speaker 1: on the road, um, and I think they do just enough.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it's a marathon, not a sprint. They do

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Speaker 1: just enough to stay sea level as they tracked towards

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Speaker 1: the return of DeAndre Hopkins. But Here's the other X

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Speaker 1: factor I think on this one. If you remember the

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Speaker 1: game against the Browns and the Cardinals are two and

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Speaker 1: all against Baker Mayfield. Hello, yeah, Cliff and Kyler two

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Speaker 1: and all against Baker Mayfield twenty nineteen. Then last year,

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Speaker 1: and I still remember after the game, Chances Cliff get

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Speaker 1: One last year wasn't at that game. That's true even watching.

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Speaker 1: You know who else wasn't in that game, Chandler Jones,

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Speaker 1: that's true. But what did Chandlers say after that game?

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Speaker 1: His big lament was didn't you see how long Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield was holding onto the football? Now, so again, Carolina's

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Speaker 1: offensive line not good, and the fact that Baker holds

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Speaker 1: onto the ball a lot, at least he did in

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Speaker 1: the Brown's offense. We'll see about Carolina if he's getting

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Speaker 1: the ball out quick or not. But I mean, if

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Speaker 1: if I'm anticipating a breakout game by the edge rushers

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Speaker 1: and getting some sacks by someone other than JJ Watt,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking this has the potential to be the game.

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Speaker 1: Unless it's just a ridiculously muddy track and then who

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Speaker 1: knows what's going to go on through there. But I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna leave you with the power rankings, and if you

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Speaker 1: guys saw this, oh, Darren loves these, because if you're

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Speaker 1: looking for motivation, here's what I'm saying. I am okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the Doctor Pepper commercials? Fansville right, Fansville College football? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so right now the Cardinals are residing. According to Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Talk, this is their power rankings. They're in between

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Speaker 1: the Bears and the Jets. In the power rankings, the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals are rated behind the Bears and just ahead

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Speaker 1: in the New York Jets. So akin to Fansville, I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: that's Loserville right there. So if you're looking for some motivation,

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Speaker 1: will added something extra, something super extra to put on

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Speaker 1: the old grease board in the locker room. Maybe throw

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Speaker 1: that power ranking up there and then highlight the two

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Speaker 1: teams around you. You're sandwiched in between the Bears and

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Really, you know that's not a bad idea. Paul,

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Speaker 1: when open locker room on Wednesday, when we get that

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Speaker 1: for the first time this week, maybe you should go

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Speaker 1: in and print out those power rankings and cluster it

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Speaker 1: in there. I feel like that's something Paul used to

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Speaker 1: do in the locker room. Yeah, really stir the stir

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Speaker 1: the stuff. I used to I'd print out something in

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Speaker 1: one hand, print it out, and then the other hand,

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Speaker 1: I'd have the soup spoon and I'd stir it up.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, just stir things up. After

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Speaker 1: we're off the air, we got asked Holmes to play

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Speaker 1: you the Jeremy Bridges stripper DJ quote. WHOA what is this? No? No, no,

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Bridges. I love Jeremy, but he enjoyed taking a

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Speaker 1: few shots of paula pencil neck from time to time.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. By the way, my favorite

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Bridges story, thanks for asking, was a Monday game

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Speaker 1: against the Minnesota Vikings back in the day and he

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Speaker 1: won that. They won that, Yes, and if you remember,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals were without the left tackle. Who was the

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Speaker 1: left tackle at that time? Was it Belle Dear? No,

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Speaker 1: it would have been Levi Levi. Okay, yeah, you're right,

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Speaker 1: and um and so Levi Brown for those of you

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Speaker 1: who were in Dallas this so so Levi Brown went

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Speaker 1: out and for some reason, Jeremy Bridges did not go

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Speaker 1: in at left tackle and he was not happy. And

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are getting beat whoever the backup was was

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Speaker 1: getting beat by the Great Jared Allen repeatedly, and Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Bridges went up to so it would have been Wizzen

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Speaker 1: on right Bruss Graham. So he went up and he's

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Speaker 1: yelling at them and they were kind of like asking

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Speaker 1: him to state his case, and he literally said on

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Speaker 1: the sideline he said, I'm gonna fight that bleeping bleeper.

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna fight him. Just let me fight him.

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Speaker 1: And then coach came back the next series, let me

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Speaker 1: fight him. I will fight him, and then they sent

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Speaker 1: him out there and that's what he did. He basically

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Speaker 1: did hand to hand combat against Jared own I think

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Speaker 1: he drew one flag for some sort of unnecessary roughness

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Speaker 1: or dirty points. And after the game I went and

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Speaker 1: found him and I said, I said, I heard what

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Speaker 1: you said on the sideline. I mean, were you just

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Speaker 1: trying to get in the game. Where is that really

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Speaker 1: your plan? He said, Oh no, no, YEA with a

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Speaker 1: guy like that who's more of a he's not exactly

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Speaker 1: like a power guy. Temnis, yes, speed, athleticism, length, he said,

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Speaker 1: there's only one way to defeat a guy like that

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Speaker 1: is you just got to turn it into a literal

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Speaker 1: street brawl. But that was always my favorite Jeremy Bridges

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Speaker 1: story because he was he had some nasty oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah yeah. When Danny when he used to

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Speaker 1: give me a hard time, I nodded and he said,

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Speaker 1: yes sir, and I walked away, just like on this

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Speaker 1: edition A Cardinals Underground, I just walked away. Brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Pacific Office Automation