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Speaker 1: This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys, and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's Today is Thursday,

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Speaker 1: February twenty third. As we are sixty man, I lost

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Speaker 1: stayed up right, And it's time to break down some

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Speaker 1: draft prospects. Here on the Draft Show, presented by Miller Lite.

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Speaker 1: We've got Bobby Belt, Brian brought us, Sack Wolchuk all

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot COM's own I Yusha Morrison. I'm Kyle

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Speaker 1: Yeoman's glad you're with us. And well, yesterday we did

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Speaker 1: a lot of tell me more, talked a lot about

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Speaker 1: specific prospects. We did some would you rather? We heard

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Speaker 1: about different prospects that could potentially emerge over these next

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Speaker 1: couple of months. Today, I want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: NFL Combine. Oh, the National Scouting Combine starts next week

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, and there are going to be some prospects

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Speaker 1: that shine out in Indie and Bobby, I know you've

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Speaker 1: these guys already. I want to I want to know

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Speaker 1: some some potential combine explosions. Who's gonna really test well? Oh,

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Speaker 1: there's uh, there's several guys. There's the guy we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about before the show started that Brian was

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Speaker 1: getting very sad about Trenton Simpson from Clemson. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: test really well, I think, Um, I bet he will.

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Speaker 1: That's a scouts are right there. I think that. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, and there's been some chatter about this. I

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Speaker 1: know we're talking about this during the break yesterday, but um,

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Speaker 1: know does does does he good grunt? Does he look

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Speaker 1: like elite testing when you watch him, I don't see

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Speaker 1: an elite tester like when he's playing. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. I think we're gonna do an

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Speaker 1: episode one day of the guys that you had the

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Speaker 1: biggest chance to be wrong about. Let's do that. I

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Speaker 1: mean up there, yeah, because because you guys, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking to my teammates here, my scouts in the

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Speaker 1: room and we're chopping up these players pre pre show.

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Speaker 1: And you guys got me scared. You've got me nervous.

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Speaker 1: That lady over there's got me nervous too, she's looking

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Speaker 1: at but anyway, but no, I think that Vanes I

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Speaker 1: could see I could see an Iowa guide testing well,

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Speaker 1: I absolutely could they. And I just said this about

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Speaker 1: You watch these kids from Iowa play. They are good.

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Speaker 1: They are good, fundamentally sound players. They work extremely hard.

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Speaker 1: They struggle an offense a little bit, but other than that,

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Speaker 1: they're really really a good program. I just kind of

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Speaker 1: feel like that he's a kid that's going to go

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Speaker 1: He's probably working out the minute. The minute the season

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Speaker 1: asking your name, guys, but we feel like scheme hurts

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Speaker 1: But I do think he does. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: good all around player and maybe that's why people like him.

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Speaker 1: And maybe if he tests really well, that answers some

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Speaker 1: of your questions on that. He does have explosiveness, he

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Speaker 1: does have some of that burst that where you think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: he does have some more tools, and to your point

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Speaker 1: For like Tyree Wilson's a good example of that. Texas

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Speaker 1: that dude too. They play him everywhere. He's a crap talker,

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Speaker 1: but he's so so disruptive, tight five yes, big, So

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Speaker 1: he's hard to move around. You can't just push him

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Speaker 1: off the line like we were talking about. UM. I

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Speaker 1: think sometimes his pursuit, his over pursuit can can hurt him,

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Speaker 1: but obviously that's that's normal d N stuff. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if he can square his hips, he's and find the

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Speaker 1: body control. I feel like his build and his burst

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Speaker 1: off the line is something to look for to So

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Speaker 1: the gentleman from Auburn is someone I'm looking at. Flo.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you nailed the guy. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I mean, to me, he looks more

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Speaker 1: like a left end than he does a right end.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, when I mean left end

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Speaker 1: is to me, the right ends usually that guy that's

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Speaker 1: screaming off the edge. We're talking about the guy that

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Speaker 1: can play the run in the past. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: she's got Wooden right as far as that goes well rounded. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: little bit of both. Absolutely. Yeah. I play from everywhere,

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Speaker 1: like if you have a if you have a hand

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Speaker 1: techie guard or um or center, like they can hang

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Speaker 1: with him maybe at nose, but at d end he's

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Speaker 1: a problem. Yeah. Welly two eighty five. You can play

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Speaker 1: any any spot on the line if you've get well,

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Speaker 1: that's The thing about it is for teams that might

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more with three four. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody morphs into these different fronts and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you put him as like a

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Speaker 1: head up, head up end on a tackle, he could

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Speaker 1: play this guy. I mean, like I say, if, but

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Speaker 1: if you're expecting him to be that like what she

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Speaker 1: was talking about with, you know, with McDonald, something like that,

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Speaker 1: screaming off the edge. That's not this guy. He's better.

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Speaker 1: He could. I think that The thing about him is

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Speaker 1: he could play with power and he could. He could

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Speaker 1: do this thing, and he does have some lateral quickness

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Speaker 1: to him. That the tough that I was watching. All Right,

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Speaker 1: rapid fire here before we take our first break. The

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Speaker 1: player you're most excited to watch in Indianapolis go Bobby

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Speaker 1: Um Christian Zalez Oregon corner. I'm interested to see uh Hyatt,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Tennessee. I should, I should, I

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Speaker 1: should Let you go first, Zach. I think Nolan Smith's

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Speaker 1: gonna tear it up. I'm pretty pumped to watch Nolan

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Speaker 1: Smith out of Georgia. Okay, took took your guy. You go.

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Speaker 1: You can say it again. Now you go. You want

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Speaker 1: me to go. Do you want you? Do you like you? You?

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Speaker 1: of the he was one of the dudes. Like did

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Speaker 1: did Okay, I'm gonna ask y'all, did Dwan Jones get invited? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Dwan Jones? Yeah? We didn't mentioned. No, he got invited,

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Speaker 1: I believe so. Yeah, really quickly correction because I just

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Speaker 1: got texted h Penning when he went against Penning last year.

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Speaker 1: It is what I was saying. Northwest. Yeah, Penning is

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Speaker 1: who I was thinking, northern Iowa from what is there?

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Speaker 1: That's funny, but that's really awkward. Yeah, but I did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Penning was a dude last year, remember a beast. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Dawan Jones did get invited. He's a gentleman that I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of we me and Brian have been talking about.

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Speaker 1: But like he's starting to I mean, obviously he had

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Speaker 1: kind of got it. But I obviously his measurables, he's huge,

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Speaker 1: he's whatever. So I just kind of want to see

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Speaker 1: guy that people start really looking at as a serious

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Speaker 1: I'm want to see these guys. Love it when big

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Speaker 1: guys run. Yeah, the big guys with speed and stuff like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, I don't know if Dallas will

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Speaker 1: take but the one thing that they may be looked

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Speaker 1: at this year is they saw what Hankins could what

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Speaker 1: that like having one of these big one techniques will

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Speaker 1: make a difference. I want to watch the pit interior

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Speaker 1: defensive lineman that you like Canty. Yeah, Elijah can't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because like you said, he's a little smaller six foot

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Speaker 1: two eighty. I want to see if he tests will

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Speaker 1: I want to see him get out of the underwear

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Speaker 1: Olympics and have some fun with it. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: back again. Just like we were yesterday. All Right, we've

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Speaker 1: got some good questions that have kind of well, I

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to pull them up at the moment. First question,

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Speaker 1: and it has to go with the combine again. Is

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Speaker 1: there anybody that you don't expect to test well? Kind

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Speaker 1: of the opposite of the question we asked in the

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Speaker 1: first segment, anybody that you don't think will test well?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Lamosa. The linebackers, Yeah, some of them. You don't

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Speaker 1: like this linebacker class. No, No, I think they're tight ends.

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Speaker 1: The linebackers. I used to hate them. That's not true.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of them are instinctual and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you're not going to be able to see that

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Speaker 1: like with with with them just running and stuff like that. Though,

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Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, we'll choke like I did.

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Speaker 1: We'll see I mean, yeah, the linebackers are I know

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Speaker 1: he's lost weight and I know he gets mocked to

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys all the time. Torrance from Florida of Cyrus. Torrance, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just the weight number Oh he's not going to test. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, I think there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be those drills where they they they put him in

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Speaker 1: a two point stance and then they run a guy

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Speaker 1: up the field and you could see the ones that

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Speaker 1: do the kick slide and get depth and get with

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Speaker 1: and all that. He's trying to lose weight. He really

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Speaker 1: really is, and maybe that's not his bag right now.

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Speaker 1: The athletics stuff we've talked about and what we're showing

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Speaker 1: highlights where he's kind of moving. He's moving decently right there,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know how he's gonna look in T

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Speaker 1: shirt and shorts moving around out there. I just don't

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Speaker 1: think that's his game. And you know, people cowboy fans

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Speaker 1: came out where he didn't where he looked, No, he

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Speaker 1: didn't look very good, but he's a good player. But

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Speaker 1: he's a really good player. Ian Brown is the exact

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Speaker 1: type of testing I was thinking of. Yeah, to the

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Speaker 1: point where you're where you're cringing, you're cringing, you're like

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Speaker 1: sitting there and you're like, oh, please, dude, get out

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Speaker 1: of your stands. Don't. Oh please, don't. You know that's

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Speaker 1: the thing I worry about. He is a he is

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Speaker 1: a very good player. I don't think he is going

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Speaker 1: to look good in T shirts and shorts moving around.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see the one two doesn't? Yeah? No,

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Speaker 1: to your point, I'm kind of wondering the same thing

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Speaker 1: about he goes to go Florida. By the way, Steve

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Speaker 1: of Vila, the TCU guard. Yeah, you know, he's also

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Speaker 1: a guy that I like, but athletically I didn't really

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Speaker 1: see a stud athlete there. Techy guy, right, Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: technique does a lot of the little things well, but

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Speaker 1: he's not a dude that moves, you know. I question,

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Speaker 1: can he be a pulling guard? Yeah? The guy that

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Speaker 1: will test the best? That was our guy John Michael

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Speaker 1: Smith's center. Okay, absolutely? Could you move him to guard?

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Speaker 1: People ask me that on Twitter. I got a Twitter

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Speaker 1: question that was him to guard. I might not take

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Speaker 1: him twenty six ten, may not fight you on it

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Speaker 1: at twenty six Yes, I might not fight you. You

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Speaker 1: would only to me it's just a pure there for

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Speaker 1: just a year. Would it be a Tyler Smith thing

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Speaker 1: where you move him there for trying to replace a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl the center. No, you're gonna have to pay

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Speaker 1: that Pro Bowl center. That's gonna be a topic of conversation.

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Speaker 1: He said this yesterday. They were going to take the

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Speaker 1: best center in the draft last year. No, do you

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Speaker 1: think they do it again? I would. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what at twenty six I would. I would. I would

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Speaker 1: hand the card in on that kid. Oh yeah, just

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Speaker 1: for the athletic ability alone, dude, he's a difference maker

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Speaker 1: in the office online. He can change your tone, he

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Speaker 1: can change that. But like, just to have that much

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Speaker 1: power and just like ferocity coming at you at that

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Speaker 1: there a possibility, just a possibility. We're hyping up John

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Speaker 1: him up quite a bit. The film being the film

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Speaker 1: it up to twenty six. Is there a possibility he

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Speaker 1: slides into the latter part of the second round for you? Sure?

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Speaker 1: So what would you do if you picked him in

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Speaker 1: the second round. I'd be doing a pizza party, Yeah, dance,

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Speaker 1: ice cream party, whatever the hell, light party, let's go. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll find out whatever. Whatever John Michael schmidts his favorite food, Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll have that party for him. It's clams, crab legs.

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Speaker 1: If it's clams, what's Minnesota staple? Would you read the

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Speaker 1: staring back for I'm not doing you wasn't wait wait

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Speaker 1: the patty inside the patty. That sounds delicious in Wisconsin stuff. Yeah, Minnesota, maybe,

635
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. Would you take him a twenty six, Bobby? Yeah,

636
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: I have not watched him, Okay, just because I haven't.

637
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to prioritize the people I think they're gonna

638
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: pick because I'm like sixty players. But I need to

639
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: watch him because he don't. You give a set list, Bobby,

640
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I'll save us all the trouble we have this. Yeah,

641
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: I've got the the guy that it stands up to

642
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: me that I'm not sure how he's gonna test. Is

643
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: uh that that he might come out here and run

644
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: really slow. I know you were maybe here and not

645
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: somebody that's not my wide receiver. It is a wide receiver.

646
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how Cedric Tillman's gonna do I don't

647
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: think he's gonna run very fast. He's gonna look good

648
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: in T shirts and shorts. How big he is, I

649
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna be I think Cedric Tillman,

650
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: like some people might come out of this gun when

651
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: they see his test, And now I could be proven wrong.

652
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: There there have been some disappointments before. There was a

653
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: lot of chatter leading into last year that like Treylan

654
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: Burkes was gonna test really well, and then he didn't

655
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: test as well as they thought. Um, there was chatter

656
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: that Kyler Gordon was gonna potentially be fastest guy at

657
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 1: the combine and he wasn't, and so aivity, I just

658
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say that this this happens. Then you

659
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: have t J. Watt, who people thought was gonna test

660
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: looking really stiff and then didn't. There's positive and so yeah,

661
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to give both sides of it. But Cedric

662
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: Tillman's guy who if you're saying, who's the guy who

663
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: might hurt himself with his numbers this week? Now Tilman

664
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: may not even run. I don't know, um, and and

665
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's still the same, but I

666
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: know last year it was anybody who was benching was

667
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: generally not gonna run. Yeah, and if you were planning

668
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: on running, you weren't gonna bench. And so I would

669
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: imagine that's gonna be the same approach this year, if

670
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: they're having him do both in the same day. Um,

671
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: But I would think Tillman's a guy who I don't

672
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: think is gonna impress anybody with his testing. Does anybody

673
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: anybody think that Darnel Washington, the tight end from George

674
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: is gonna don't know, sixty three? Wow, you don't know,

675
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: not a sixty It'll be run rich run out there? Though.

676
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Do you remember Jalen Widermeyer last year Texas A and

677
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: m tied End. He was the guy who sat on

678
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: my board a long time. It was everybody in love

679
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: with his tree. I don't think Darnell Washington's that, but

680
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: you might have similar numbers testing wise, move him to

681
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: tackle and Georgia tied End, he's gonna he's Do you

682
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: think he's gonna weigh over two seventy? Yes, yeah, he's

683
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: at two seventy on my list right now. I think

684
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: he would be over that. Man. That's a lot, though,

685
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: How do you think, how do you think Rashi's gonna

686
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: tests him your receiver for four eight first the forties,

687
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna I don't know, four four eight something like that.

688
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: I would take that for Rice. I'd be a great time,

689
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: ye because I know it's it's technically doesn't exist, but

690
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: I know the the listed time on him on certain

691
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: services was like four or four earlier this year. But

692
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. Okay, guy mocks probably gonna

693
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: test really well from or to go to stay right, Yeah, clearly,

694
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: But are there any safeties that y'all are looking at

695
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: that Maybe we haven't talked dB really And I'm very

696
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: curious and like because I was well or who will

697
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: do poorly? Who? Who will who will test well? The guy?

698
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: The guy? I really? I mean, I'm kind of like

699
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: I say, I like Johnson from Texas A and M

700
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and get you guys to watch Christopher

701
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: Smith from Georgia. Watched him last night. I have fallen

702
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: in love with you, sir. Yeah, and from Ohio State.

703
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: He will test well. Yeah, he's a speedster, okay, yeah,

704
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: safety corner safety, both free safety Chris Christopher Smith from

705
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: Georgia and then Hickman from Ohio State, a couple of guys.

706
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: What about branch Man, I don't know about him. I'm scared.

707
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm scared of Branch from Alabama. Ye, I think scared.

708
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: I think there's a player I could be really wrong about.

709
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm really high on him, and I don't know. Branch

710
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: is gonna scare me a little bit. The drills will

711
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: be good for him, well, brand. All Branch needs to

712
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: do is Branch just needs to not put up a

713
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: four six, put up a put up a four or

714
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: five five or something like that, and I think people

715
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: will be happy. I might think I think he'll run

716
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: on the four five. I might have to go to

717
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: Tuscaloosa Pro Day and time in myself just to make

718
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: sure you get a good time on him. Do you

719
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: like him? I do, And that's what scares me. That's

720
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: what scares me. We got the highlights of Beam doing

721
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: a great job. With these highlights in the show, it's amazing.

722
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, this is what you get if

723
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: you're watching, You get a guy that kind of he

724
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: could play free. He could play back as you we're

725
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: seeing right now. He's a punt returner. I mean, there's

726
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: a lot of things you could do with this guy.

727
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: That scares me to death because he doesn't look like

728
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: a traditional safety in my eye. My eyes having trouble

729
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: with that. But when you watch his tape, this is

730
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: what he does. He makes plays, he's around the ball,

731
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: he could tackle. He's smart, you know, I mean he

732
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: nick Saban coaches at secondary. You know they're well coached.

733
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Antonio Johnson from Texas A and m

734
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: in that same breath. Which one do you have? Man?

735
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: I got him both in the second round. I got

736
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Branch is a strong and Johnson is a free. And

737
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: it's funny because the body types don't flip. Yeah, the

738
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: body types are not that way. But look, I mean

739
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: you could watch this guy. They play him and they

740
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: play him as like a They play him down and

741
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: they play him in the slot, they play him in

742
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: the box, they play him back. I mean, look at

743
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: he's down down there on the goal line. Now, now

744
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing terrible radio here because you're probably now Albert watches,

745
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: but Beam is showing your highlights and this guy's down

746
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: there on the goal line and he's making tackles on

747
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: the six yard line. You know, that's what I'm saying.

748
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: This guy's got some toughness to him, but his body

749
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: type doesn't fit my eye. I'm sorry. It's an old, old,

750
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: krusty man. His body types like an outside corner. Yeah, no, no,

751
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 1: no slot there, there's there's I think I thought that

752
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: six foot a lot. I think a lot of teams

753
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: will you won't even consider him at safety. I think

754
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams thinks a corner. I

755
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: was waiting for it. There, It is all right. I

756
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: was just I mean, honestly, if you want to, did

757
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: you say that? Did you think he was a slot

758
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: only type player? I just think he's, like you said,

759
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: his body he's little, but he plays near the lot

760
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: of scrimmage a lot like you're saying. But yeah, go ahead, Bobby, Like, okay,

761
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: you can explain. So let me let me just lay

762
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: this out for you. Who does it sound like I'm describing.

763
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 1: You've got a Alabama defensive back who doesn't necessarily have

764
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: the body type of a typical safety, but some people

765
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: may think he has safety traits. You're trying to figure

766
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: out is he is safety? Who does that sound like

767
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: Alabama TV? It sounds like Branch, but it also sounds

768
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: like Marlon Humphrey. Now Humphrey ran four for one. Humphrey

769
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: was faster, but Humphrey is the same body type. It

770
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: was the same sort of word Marlin Humphreys. Humphreys become

771
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: like an all pro type of players. Humphreys bigger though,

772
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: isn't he no Humphries like six or was when he

773
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: was coming from he looked bigger. Let me see her,

774
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: Marlon Humphrey when he was coming out, I got got

775
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 1: twenty games in my brine five or something. He's listened

776
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: at six foot two O five. He was six ninety seven.

777
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Branches six ninety two. Yep, I've got him at six

778
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,479
Speaker 1: foot but I'm scared. I mean, I get a grip.

779
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't have a grip. I put in my notes.

780
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: I'd play Branch at corner. Uh kind of going. I

781
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: need to go on a walk going under the south.

782
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: I got to start pacing. Uh. Kind of along the

783
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: same lines of risky picks. Tim asked on on Twitter

784
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: on the twenty. He says, how does missing quote unquote

785
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: on a prospect impact the team's draft strategies moving forward?

786
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: For example, the lack of production from Jaylen Tilbert, how

787
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 1: does that affect the way that they approached the draft

788
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: this year. It shouldn't affect it for the most part,

789
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: but it does. What's what's the so Bobby Way over

790
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: sold him? That's his fault. I believe, don't take you

791
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: or you were right there. I'm on my walk right,

792
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: were right, I'm trying to figure out branch. All right,

793
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Jaylen Tilbert is still going to turn around, I believe. Yeah,

794
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 1: what is the question about, Like does say that does

795
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: what happen to jay or what happened with Jaylen Tolbert? Like,

796
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: is the question does that make you think differently about

797
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: South Alabama type of players or players at that level?

798
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: Or is he saying does it make you revalue me

799
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: to take a receiver again? Because like, what's the question?

800
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: He's talking about positional value and looking at receivers. Go,

801
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it affects positional value. Yeah,

802
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: I think it's I think there were things they just

803
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: tell me Bob missed. I think there were things about

804
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert that they and they've said this themselves, that

805
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: they believed he could do more immediately than he could

806
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: There was a sharper learning curve than they believe. I

807
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: don't think they think they're wrong about the player. I

808
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: think they believe they were wrong about the timeline and

809
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: that's where they got burn. I'm sorry. Sorry with that

810
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: though you mentioned the schools and you mentioned some of

811
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: the possible fallout on the other side of it. Do

812
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: you think it does affect the way that they look

813
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: at players coming from that specific level, that specific program.

814
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: They've never liked that level Will But he went and

815
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: picked the guy in the top one hundred last year

816
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: and then he doesn't work out, and I think they

817
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: had another gentleman if I'm not mistaken. Uh, they had

818
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: another guy at Southideane had another guy come out this year. Uh,

819
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: who is who is that guy? Though? Jayleen? I'm sorry,

820
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: my bad, I don't know Jane, Like, I mean, who's

821
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: that guy this year? Like that stands out in the

822
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: top fifty that it's like, is that a school they

823
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: would stay away from? Who am I blanking on a

824
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: school for she Rice? Maybe? I don't think they would

825
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: stray away from mess at the Lane two. I don't know.

826
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't think too Lane. I don't think he would

827
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: be a top um like, I mean, the only one

828
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: there is the everything. I know what you say is

829
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: the North Dakota State lineman. But like I was, I

830
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: was at Combine last year and I was I was

831
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: talking about somebody in league circles and they were saying,

832
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: we got to stop calling North North Dakota State a

833
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: small program. They put three quarterbacks in the NFL in

834
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: the last six years. I saw them whoop you and

835
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 1: us too, And so I mean, I don't know that

836
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: there's even I don't know that there's a player in

837
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: the top that might be impacted. Andre Carter maybe Army. Yeah, yeah,

838
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: he's interesting. That's a that's that's probably one. But with

839
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: Jalen though, like a lot of from what I understood

840
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: with Jalen and even touching bass with him, is like

841
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: they didn't start. He was one of those guys that

842
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: they were like, go make a play, go go make

843
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: a play, go do the thing. South Alabama. It's South Alabamia.

844
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: And he didn't start really, they didn't start really looking

845
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: into working him into the slot and doing more offensively

846
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: into his senior year. He's only played football since like

847
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: a sophomore year at school tracking, so he's also still

848
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: getting the field for the game. But then also too,

849
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: let's you had ceedee Lamb messing up on option routes.

850
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: You had, You had guys that have been in this

851
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: league for a little while messing up on some of

852
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: the way this offense was called and how it was

853
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 1: played and make a mistakes. So yeah, I would assume

854
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 1: that maybe with especially with this that last you know OC,

855
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: that maybe that there was some disconnect on how he's

856
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing things. How much if he was

857
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing I think it's gonna benefit him

858
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: to get like, this is what you do. I told Bobby,

859
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm not I told Brian that I'm really looking at him.

860
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Maybe if you want him to kind of do randall

861
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: cop things this year, he could possibly do it. Let's

862
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: see how he develops and how he does if that

863
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 1: fits with Michael, Yeah, he's looking forward. I think their

864
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: thing is more. Yeah, the option routes. Sure, guys struggle

865
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,439
Speaker 1: with that. There's a miscommunication that the Cowboys will also

866
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: tell you you don't see all the option routes we

867
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 1: hit like, yeah, just because you see, just because you

868
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: see there's five of them with Cede Lamb. That's actually

869
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: a pretty low percentage given how often he runs them.

870
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: But I think more of there is She was like,

871
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: you got to know to line up in overtime in

872
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: Lambeau where that you're lining up correctly. You got to

873
00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: know to check in like that. That to that might

874
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: is the stuff where it's like, okay, he's he's got

875
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: to be ready for that. Can I throw another name

876
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: at you? Because because this this is like when you're

877
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: getting in the third fourth round and I don't know

878
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: if you guys have seen this player, Tucker Craft, that

879
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: tied end from South Dakota State. Good player, he's a

880
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: good player, and he's gonna be in that mix where

881
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: you're starting to talk about compensatory picks that they get

882
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: the extra four. This team kind of likes to pick

883
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: in that third, fourth round, fifth round of these tight ends.

884
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Would they go for a guy like Tucker Craft who's

885
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: from South Dakota State? You know, is that is? Does that?

886
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: Is that one of those things? Do you think enough

887
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: of him with some of the other guys that potentially

888
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 1: are on your board from tight ends if they're looking

889
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: at a tight end, if they ride off Goddard when

890
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: he was coming out, Man, did I mean it's the

891
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: same school? No? No, I'm yeah, I mean I don't

892
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: know see I got Laportah from Iowa and Craft like

893
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: in the same round, but they're like kind of third

894
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: round guys for me. See, they'd probably like Laporta because

895
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: he's an Iowa kid, but I think Craft's better. Yeah,

896
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: and Kraft has the same skill set as the South

897
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: Dakota State from South Dakota State six five two fifty

898
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: three that they like because he's a really good blocker.

899
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: I think he's a sticky blocker, but he also is

900
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: a big target, and I think he's a good route runner.

901
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: Didn't he struggle with drops? I haven't watched him yet,

902
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: but did he struggle with drops in his last year?

903
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 1: I I I can say my film with my film

904
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: was yeah, I mean my my film. I'm just going

905
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 1: back and looking at what the one thing that I

906
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: kind of saw that with his size, I felt like

907
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 1: he would be more dominant as a blocker, especially playing

908
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: against you know, some pharmacists and accountenants and guys like that,

909
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, no offense, yeah exactly, but this guy he

910
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: blocks really tall and he just tries to kind of

911
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: muscle his guy. So I kind of felt like that

912
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: to me. The thing that was also inviting in line

913
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: flexed wing wide. I mean he's I think he's a

914
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: better receiver than he is a blocker. So by me

915
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: saying that, I don't think the hands okay, I kind

916
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: of felt like that they were reliable in that way.

917
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll get to any he can't catch

918
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: a cold. But I mean, you know, I don't think that.

919
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he had this a bad player. But again,

920
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: I was bringing up to school that. You know, we

921
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: start talking about South Alabama, you know, and then you

922
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: can quote unquote smaller school, Old Dominion. We got a

923
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: couple offensive lineman from Old don a tackle tackle from

924
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: what about? I mean, didn't Tyler Smith come from. That's

925
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: an American conce I mean it truly is. But yeah,

926
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: you must be listening to us on the chivag nation

927
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: because we have a guy that we work with it

928
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: he wants nothing to do with Tulsa. He's a bit

929
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: of a schmok. I mean, they don't pick that much

930
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: from don't say Eric. Eric wants nothing to do with Tulsa.

931
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: Literally there Tuesday, it was all right, Yeah, it's fine. Yeah,

932
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I mean and look even with Tilbert and where he

933
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: came from. When Tilbert played big programs like Tennessee Tolbert

934
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: Tilbert cooked Alante Taylor who on the fifty last year. So,

935
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't think that it would be anything

936
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: that they would say, Oh, well, because of Tilbert here,

937
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: it's going to change the way we view this guy here.

938
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: All right, So we've now gone back to Jalen Toilbert again.

939
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to continue doing that. No,

940
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: it's not your bad. I think we're going to continue

941
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: doing that because that's the biggest storyline from last year's draft.

942
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: That's the biggest thing that really hurt where this team

943
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: could be right now. But like you said, it probably

944
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: shouldn't sway them away or to a certain position real quick,

945
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean real quick. Yeah, Tilbert or Sam Williams breakout

946
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: player next year Williams Williams, Yeah, I guess Sam is easier.

947
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 1: What what do you mean, Who's who's gonna break out

948
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: have the bigger year bigger year Tolbert or Williams? Probably Sam,

949
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: What depends on who they bring back. But but but

950
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: that's not fair, y'all. That's not right. No, I was

951
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: gonna say that, like some of these players were raw

952
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: though kind of that's kind of a comment that was

953
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: a similar kind of common thing with this past draft

954
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: is you had Tyler come in, who I felt like needed,

955
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: you know, obviously need to improve. You had Sam coming.

956
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: Sam's very vocal about being as kind of as raw

957
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: as he was as a player coming here, and then

958
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: you talk about Jalen, like, I wonder if that's a

959
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: something that they're kind of looking at as far as

960
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: being able to somewhat mode these guys into what they

961
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: because you saw definitely saw Sam start to flourish through

962
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: the season Taylor as well. So I like that idea.

963
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: I like the fact that there's raw traits. But in

964
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: the second round, in the third round, that's where I

965
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: kind of stresses you out. Yeah, I don't know, if

966
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: you're a top one hundred pick, I want you to

967
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: play damn is I mean you're in the same Bobby

968
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 1: where it's hard to I wanted to take Jaylen over

969
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: Sam Williams in the second roma, but Sam is more

970
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: likely to have a bigger year next year. I think

971
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: totally think Yeah, I think I think they both could

972
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: play well. I think they both think but I think

973
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: Sam Williams is as It's not as bad as Tolbert.

974
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: It's not as bad as everybody. Yeah, no, Tilbert is

975
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: not as bad. But Brian is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

976
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: Sam Williams is about to so I'm doing radio with

977
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 1: you guys like the front front office. Yeah, because he's

978
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: also too like we don't know who, if who they're

979
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: bringing back to you and wise like Dante Fowlers that

980
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: got like this gentleman could definitely see far more snaps

981
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: than even what he did last year. So interesting thought.

982
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: I like the question, Brian little thought provoking here as

983
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: we go into our second So we'll get him tober

984
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: when we come back, We're gonna talk to trenches. Oh,

985
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: talk some of the big hawk Miley's up front. Let's

986
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 1: talk to some of the offensive lineman defensive lineman. Where

987
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: could the Cowboys potentially invest in both of those things?

988
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,120
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Speaker 1: Chris Beam and Jazz Marshall in the back, putting that

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1028
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 1: to talk about offensive and defensive lines because there are

1029
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: different times in this draft the Cowboys will invest in

1030
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: the tra inches. It's going to happen may not be

1031
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: in the first round. Let's party, but how quickly could

1032
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: you see Dallas investing, and what are some of the

1033
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: names outside of the first round that you would be

1034
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: okay with investing in? What is trenches, the edge rushers,

1035
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: the d tackles, offensive line or just how likely are

1036
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: they to pick somebody who could be an offensive linement

1037
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 1: or defensive linement. Well it's just the last one. Then

1038
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: they could, I mean, they could pick that as early

1039
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: as twenty six? Could I can? I can you tell

1040
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: me the name of the kid from Clemson that the

1041
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: defensive It's Breecy right, Please let somebody pick him before

1042
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 1: Dallas gets an opportunity. I'm with you, man like, because

1043
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: he's overrated as Heckhall. I mean, he's a I don't

1044
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: see it guy too. I don't please such a disappointment,

1045
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be that guy, but I

1046
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 1: am that guy because I love the show and I

1047
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: love educating people. I'm sorry I'm putting it out there.

1048
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: I'm scared to death of him too. And if you know,

1049
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: if if all of a sudden he comes sliding down

1050
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: that board, he's within rain of twenty six and they

1051
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 1: pick him, man, I'm gonna have a hard time. I

1052
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: really really am, especially if I know that some of

1053
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 1: these other guys, maybe some of these offensive lineman are

1054
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: we've talked about the Center or people like that. But

1055
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: he's the one guy again, another show, another day of

1056
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: guys you have a chance to be really really wrong about.

1057
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys for me. Six five three

1058
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 1: h five. His grave and his headstone are on delivery

1059
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: now because Brian just killed the guy. Why why don't

1060
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: you see it? What is the knock on him so

1061
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: much so that it would be a bad pick in

1062
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: twenty six? All right, let me see what we've got

1063
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: going here, you know, I just because a lot of

1064
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: people like him, I know, and they and everybody tells

1065
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: me watch the North Carolina film, you know, And I'm

1066
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: trying to effort that right now. No encounter with Watch

1067
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: the Notre Dame film, and he gets pushed around and bullied.

1068
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: See that's what I'm seeing. I mean, there's snaps with

1069
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: this guy. For a big guy. He gets knocked off balance,

1070
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: you know, and he's doesn't he wasn't able to recover.

1071
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: He gets real tall, gives up his chest. I know,

1072
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: we're watching highlights at him, like destroying it looks like

1073
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: Wake Forest or somebody like that. But I mean, I

1074
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,919
Speaker 1: just I mean, it's you know, it's like more more

1075
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: movement than technique to get to the you know, to

1076
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: be a rusher and stuff like that. I think he's

1077
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, the Florida State game, he had a couple

1078
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: of chances to get his guy on the ground and

1079
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: just missed, just couldn't do it. And you know, the

1080
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: effort and the hands and all that good defending the run.

1081
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: But I think these people are hyping this guy way way,

1082
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: way way up. He just got one armed buy a

1083
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: wake forest offensive guards, That's what I'm saying. I just

1084
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: it really wasn't good. Yeah, it's not a good rep

1085
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: couple of them, and he's just after the play, he's

1086
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: swiping away, he's pulling the dB where's he's He's throwing

1087
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: his arms up in the air. I just, you know,

1088
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: when there's been some really good ones and threes that

1089
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: we've watched so far this year, and he does scare me.

1090
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: He really does scare me. I don't see him as

1091
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: being that guy that everybody's talking about. When I keep

1092
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,879
Speaker 1: seeing him get mocked and he's like in the top

1093
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen right around there, I'm I'm like, man, I

1094
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: must be missing this guy really bad. It's always to

1095
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: me anyway, it's always concerning when we're talking about a

1096
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: guy who was like the top recruit in the country,

1097
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: was supposed to be like the top of a class,

1098
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: and then he comes in and disappoints like he does. Uh,

1099
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: he's a guy who got hurt at Clemson a few

1100
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: different times. So there's injury questions there with him. Got

1101
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: a huge brace on that right shoulder, a thing you're

1102
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: dealing with. I don't think this guy's ever going to

1103
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: rush the passer, yeah, ever, And and in terms of

1104
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: the run play, he's got to be better about, you know,

1105
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: his technique getting off a block. I mean, there are

1106
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: too many times, like you said, where he can't get

1107
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: off a block or he ends up on the ground

1108
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 1: place really tall. Yeah, just like yeah in the NFL

1109
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: that you give you get win of these offensive line

1110
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: in your chest, they will steer you all over the place.

1111
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: And so I'm that's a guy I have a chance

1112
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: to be really really wrong. I know this he turns

1113
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: into a Rookie of the Year kind of guy or

1114
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: all you know, all rookie team Now I'll wear it.

1115
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: But man, the tape to me is just it's not

1116
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: for what they're talking about. I just don't see it.

1117
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you a guy as we

1118
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: we just completely as you mentioned, we got the tombstone

1119
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: on the way. Let me spin a positive for you. Okay,

1120
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: here's a guy that maybe fourth round, maybe even day three,

1121
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: all right, and I don't know if you've all watched him.

1122
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: It's an LSU guy here. Brian Jacqueline Roy was just

1123
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: about to ask about the LSU six three, three fifteen.

1124
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: This dude you could wait on. I don't know why

1125
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: more people aren't buzzing about this dude, because I think

1126
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: he does a little bit of both. I think he

1127
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: can push the pocket, he can get after the quarterback,

1128
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: and he can play the run. He's a big, trash can,

1129
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,760
Speaker 1: full of dirt kind of guy. He's got a good anchor.

1130
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: He can take on multiple blockers for you. So that's

1131
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: going to help the Cowboys in terms of being able

1132
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: to fill the middle there and help you against the run.

1133
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: He's also really good with his hands, which is something

1134
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward with these guys get pressure. He's got

1135
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: a high motor for a big man. I love that

1136
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: as a trade. Now, if you get him sideways, that's

1137
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: when he can get pushed off the ball, but otherwise

1138
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: he's got a really good bull rush. When he's playing

1139
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: against guards that he just puts them back in the

1140
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 1: lap of the quarterback, plays the run, wins with his

1141
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: spin move. I think he's really good, and I don't

1142
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: know why guys don't have him ranked higher personally, but

1143
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: I think he could be a steel especially if you

1144
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 1: get him early in day three. Could it be the

1145
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: strength because I've watched the Florida game. That was the

1146
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: only one that I got a chance to watch, so

1147
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm limited on what I've seen. The one knock I

1148
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 1: had against him was I didn't think he was as

1149
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: strong as his size indicates. And the point of attack

1150
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: because six foot four or three fifteen, like you said,

1151
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 1: he and he could play three, he could play notes.

1152
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: He could do both of them because he's athletic en

1153
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: and he's got the movement ability. I think that's certainly there.

1154
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: But I didn't see him completely win some of those

1155
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 1: battles against good offensive lineman. Against Florida, it's a good

1156
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: offensive line up front that he was going against. Torrence

1157
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: was right, and that's a good point because Torrence did

1158
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: did Torrence was able to have some of those battles

1159
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I don't dislike Roy, I haven't seen

1160
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: enough of them. But the strength was my question. Do

1161
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: you think he has the strength to win those battles?

1162
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: I personally do, Okay, But you know that's also a

1163
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: reason why we're not talking about him as a first round,

1164
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: second round kind of guy. But I think if you're

1165
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 1: able to get him, you know, as a fourth or

1166
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: fifth round player, which right now I think that's kind

1167
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: of the the area that people are looking at him,

1168
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: I'd be thrilled. And I think you've got a guy

1169
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: that could possibly be an impact player right away. Personally,

1170
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: he's from your tigers, Brian, have you gotten a chance?

1171
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: I think I think I think Zach's got Have you

1172
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 1: seen him at all? Have you watched him? Okay? I

1173
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: didn't know if you want to cho okay, I didn't know.

1174
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: If you want to jump in there, yeah, I to

1175
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: me though, I'm always really kind of reluct him for

1176
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: these LSU kids because I love them all so much. Yeah,

1177
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, And but I think that I think Zach

1178
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: has got him exactly right. And I think your concerns

1179
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: about some of the power stuff, they're legitimate. I think

1180
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: the guy plays with tremendous effort and and he just

1181
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,800
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be moved. And that's the thing about

1182
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: him is he can get off those blocks and make

1183
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: those plays. You see the whole kind of open up

1184
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden he's there making a tackle,

1185
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like he's got that kind

1186
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 1: of ability though. Really just a big, powerful guy, I think,

1187
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could I could see where sometimes though

1188
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: he gets bullied a little bit. Texas are you Are

1189
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: you a Texas fan? Bobby yep? Him? So what you

1190
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: think about KeAndre Coburn. I have not watched his tape yet.

1191
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: As a player, he was okay, go for it. He

1192
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: wasn't a guy that I love just watching him on

1193
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 1: broadcast go for it feeling because I'll back you on

1194
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: this one. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm gonna just kind of

1195
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: re let us is so hopefully this is right. Coburn

1196
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: from Texas is right? Yeah? Uh yeah. Coburn from Texas

1197
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: six two three, three hundred and thirty nine pounds. Um.

1198
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: I said he has a compact build. I feel like

1199
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: he's They also use him at edge sometimes he can

1200
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: be crafty. But um, I think he says the edge effectively. Um.

1201
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: Also too, he required a double team quite a bit

1202
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: when I saw him, and that's something you're obviously looking for.

1203
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: He uses his natural leverage to win at the point

1204
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: of attack. So I feel like he's just he's he's

1205
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: an athlete. He's an athlete, and he's he's very quick

1206
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 1: to react to the ball. So I feel like he's

1207
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: a very coachable guy, guy that can get better. He's

1208
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: a strong tackler. He has good hands and he can

1209
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: shed and tackle. But the fact that bigger, now, yeah,

1210
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,600
Speaker 1: he's pretty quick and he can run. But I also

1211
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: feel like just how much he required a double team

1212
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: is something that people are gonna see and possibly respect.

1213
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: So um, I also with me with d Lyneman, I

1214
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: really respect pursuit, ye like I really do, and his

1215
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: backside pursuit for him going to be such a big guy,

1216
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: he shows enough speed to recover. Well, you nailed him.

1217
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. Yeah, I like him a lot.

1218
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: I know you're not he spent. I haven't watched his

1219
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: tape yet, just from from watching my broadcast during the season.

1220
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 1: He was he was fine, but he didn't stand out

1221
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Tom's down. Yeah, I'll tell you what, though he can

1222
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: be a lower Alabama couldn't move the ball on these

1223
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: guys running it, I mean, and then they pop some

1224
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: runs on the outside. But later on. But man, you

1225
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: watch this guy, I think you've got him dead on

1226
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: right to me, Like I say, I mean, And the

1227
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,479
Speaker 1: last thing I said is he doesn't kill the grass

1228
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: under his feet. He's just not gonna sit in there.

1229
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: He's gonna play the pursuit to get to the outside. Though.

1230
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 1: I love what I'm seeing with some of these guys.

1231
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: He's three hundred and thirty three hundred and forty pound

1232
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: defensive tackles that can move. I think it's just got

1233
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: him absolutely right. That's a big body with a motor.

1234
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah. He has a good He has a good

1235
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: motor to me. But um yeah, he just he moves

1236
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: people around and I like him. So that's someone I've

1237
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: just been keeping eye on, eye on. And he's in Texas,

1238
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: so obviously he might get the Dallas Day and all

1239
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: that stuff that they might have some eyes on. He's

1240
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: from Houston and he played at Texas, so he wouldn't

1241
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: be a Dallas Day guy. Okay, well, fire, yeah, yeah,

1242
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: we'll fudge it. We'll get him there. Yeah. I like

1243
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: that he went to Middle Ji. He can stand at

1244
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 1: my house if he wants to get a visit. Yeah,

1245
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,959
Speaker 1: I like the player. Who do y'all If y'all watched

1246
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: Mazi Smith from Michigan, Yes, yes, from Michigan, you won.

1247
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 1: If y'all watched that game, who won the battle between

1248
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: him in a Vati TCUs. Yeah, I thought that was

1249
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: one of the worst games that I saw from from Smith,

1250
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I didn't think he had

1251
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: the impact that he wanted to have it semi final,

1252
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: no doubt. All Right, that does it for us here

1253
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: from the Draft Show. The next time you'll hear our show,

1254
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: we will be from Indianapolis in the NFL's lucky folks

1255
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: to get to go. Yeah, you're gonna be in Arizona, right, Yeah,

1256
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: I'll be watching baseball, but I will be on that

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