WEBVTT - Jess Edwards: Where Is Spencer?! | Happy Hour 0:00:02.200 --> 0:00:04.640 Hello, and welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:08.600 I'm Rachel and I'm Cheerity, and today we have Bachelor 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:13.400 and a Bachelor in Paradise Season ten alum Jess Edwards Welcome, 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:18.279 Hey guys. Hello, We're so happy to have you. I'm like, 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.120 I feel like I haven't seen you in person since 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:24.919 Miami's my week and that was truly a nightmare for me. 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:26.080 I don't know about you. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:28.200 Yeah, it was a lot. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.760 It was my first Miami Swim Week and I have 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:32.440 never felt so chaotic in my life. 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.159 But that's fine. Actually, I definitely have felt more chaotic. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.280 But you get the gist. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:40.640 I'll get into that. We will get into that. Jess, 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.320 we first met you on Joey's season in The Bachelor 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:46.040 and then saw you fall in love on season ten 0:00:46.159 --> 0:00:49.280 of Bachelor in Paradise. Walk us through how it's been 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.080 being engaged in the real world. 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:54.480 Oh my gosh, it has been a whirl win. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.800 It honestly feels like a live time ago and it 0:00:56.840 --> 0:00:59.400 was only like a little over a year ago, which 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:00.160 is crazy. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.600 Yeah, it means when started doing great. I am in 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:04.640 Dallas now. 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.720 It's been definitely, you know, a learning curve, moving to 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.840 a New City where I don't really have anyone. He 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:15.559 has a great community here, so yeah, just figuring out, 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:18.000 you know, how we can support each other through that. 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.480 We were long distance for a little bit, as you 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.280 guys know. I was in San Diego before I came 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:25.600 out here. But it's been great. It's been great. I 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:29.880 feel like, you know, bachelor is this bubble of almost 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:34.200 like perfection, Like you're in this amazing scenario with wonderful 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:36.880 people and you're in the perfect scenario to fall in 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.600 love and you know, learn a lot, but then you 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.120 get thrown out in the real world and you're like, 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:43.759 oh shit, here we go. 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:48.800 Okay, how did you guys decide on Dallas apart from 0:01:49.240 --> 0:01:49.720 San Diego? 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:54.480 Lived here. Yeah, he's lived here for like thirteen years. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.840 He went to college out here, and then eventually like 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.280 some of his family moved out here, and yeah, so 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.280 we just decided that. 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:07.440 It was better. I don't really know. 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:11.560 Cineco is expensive, honestly, and I have family out there, 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.320 but my parents are in Tennessee. So I was like, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.240 I'll be closer to my parents. It's kind of in 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.040 the middle, so I can go boom to Tennessee, Boom 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:22.440 to California, and yeah, that's kind of how we decided. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:24.000 Oh my god, I love that. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.360 I love Bachelor really is such a perfect bubble. And 0:02:28.400 --> 0:02:31.000 you said you guys have had some learning curves. What 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:32.480 has that been in the real world? 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:38.480 You know, I think that anytime you are moving in 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.640 with someone, like obviously when you're a long distance we 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:45.080 would be together for you know, weeks at a time, 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.639 but until you're really combining your lives and fully like 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.880 e meshing into each other's day to day, it really 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:56.640 just like yeah, you know, like you know, it just 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.080 is different, and it's a good different. You know, we 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:02.680 always we have our ups and down through lives, but 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.480 he really is such a great partner when it comes 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.840 to those stressful things. And like there's been so many 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.560 times where I've been like, Babe, I'm just I'm feeling 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.600 a little alone out here, like this is a lot, 0:03:15.200 --> 0:03:17.000 and he's been like, well, baby, do you need to 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:19.080 go to Tennessee? Do you need to go to San Diego? 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:20.359 How can I support you? 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.800 He's very good at like just communicating. 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.520 And making me feel like it's okay to feel that way, 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.799 Like you we're in this together, You're not alone. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:31.080 Even if you're feeling lonely. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:34.400 Yeah, no, I one hundred percent relate to that so much. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.840 I tell everyone, I'm like, it is like great, Like 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.880 it's great obviously being with your your partner and living together, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.960 but there is a big learning curve and people don't 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.200 really always realize that. And I think sometimes to how 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.960 they see us from our shows, it doesn't really translate 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:52.680 to like, you know, like the real life. They still 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:55.320 think of us, Oh okay, like everything's happy, go lucky, 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:58.200 and it is, but there's real life problems to that too. 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.040 So what would you say was like probably the biggest 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:04.920 challenge for you guys since like combining lives and living 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.280 with each other versus like maybe something that was like 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.040 seamless and floats so effortlessly for you guys. 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:16.080 Yeah, I think one thing would definitely be I would 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.960 say because we lived together and we both worked from home. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.640 He runs his own business and then I saw have 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.719 a nine to five work from home job as well, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:27.320 So we're at home together like all day every day, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:32.960 and we have really had to work on differentiating like, hey, 0:04:33.120 --> 0:04:35.279 just because we're in each other's space doesn't. 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.120 Mean we're like spending quality time. 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.760 We definitely have had to be like all right, we 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.359 need to make a plan to do this, or like 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.719 let's put the phones up, or even like maybe let's 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.320 I'm sure you guys have noticed. We haven't been on 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.560 social media as a couple as much together because I 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.400 feel like we were doing it so much it was 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.000 like it felt a little performative. We're like, all right, 0:04:55.360 --> 0:04:58.080 this is not realistic, like we're forcing ourselves to do 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.599 these things, yeah, when we just want to be normal. 0:05:01.160 --> 0:05:03.640 Yeah. No, I'm like, dotton is the same way. I'm like, 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:05.960 I'm not forcing your hand, you come in the motor 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.000 or not. Like we're good exactly. 0:05:08.120 --> 0:05:09.799 That's exactly how we are at first. 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:12.080 I feel like we were really trying to like be 0:05:12.200 --> 0:05:14.360 like no, no, no, we've got to do it because yeah, 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:17.760 fans like whatever, but we're like, you know what, No, 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.040 we just need to do what feels natural. And he's 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:23.159 wanted to take a little break from social media, and 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:24.720 I'm not going to be like no, you need to 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.640 be in this. So if he wants to, he wants to, 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.280 and yeah, I think just like trying to be as 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.680 normal as possible because yeah, we just handed this platform 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:36.240 and we're like, what. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:37.640 Do we do it's a lot. 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:40.120 Yeah, it's a lot. I wanted to ask you that 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.480 question because fans have been speculating that you guys are 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.880 breaking up because he's not on your content. What like 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.599 do you feel when you see those comments? You know it. 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.880 I have a really bad problem at like seeing stuff 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.480 and getting immediately infuriated, Like it really does and this 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:00.480 is probably exactly what they want to hear or two, 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.159 But I will see it and I'm like, oh, I'm 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:06.240 so mad, like we need to post together, and I'm like, 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.800 you know what, it literally does not matter what they think, 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.679 Like I know, nine times out of ten, it's because 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.279 they care and they're like invested in us. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:16.720 And then it's just the people that you know, want 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:17.799 to start drama. 0:06:18.000 --> 0:06:21.799 Like I will have people literally comment on videos where 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.200 you can clearly see my ring in like every clip, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.120 and they're like, she's not been wearing her ring recently, 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.800 and I'm like, girl, just have. 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.599 This is when it happens when we're off season and 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.440 there's no going on. 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.520 I always say, it really isn't like I'm sorry, it's 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.599 a disease, but it's also something that I feel like 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.240 couples have to do. And I'm so like, proud of 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.640 you guys for doing that establishing like cause it's rare. 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:51.919 It's rare where you can see a couple what you 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:54.160 just explain, like Okay, we're gonna take a break from 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.200 social media. Some people just get so intertwined in that 0:06:57.279 --> 0:06:59.640 cycle and it becomes like, Okay, this is all they know. 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:03.400 And I made that like my responsibility. Even Dwton he's 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.520 far more like in tune with that than I am 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:07.640 at times where he's like, no, this is a hard 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.280 boundary that we don't have to post everything. We don't 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.240 need to share everything. And again it's hard sometimes for 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.440 fans or the fan base to understand that. But again 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.560 it's like this is our real lives. Like there's a 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.640 lot going on. It is a lot of like emotional investment, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:25.680 mental exhaustion. So I'm proud of you guys for setting 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:27.560 that boundary. I think it's really important. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.600 We also have life stuff going on, Like there's things 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:33.800 that pop up and like I don't know, I'm just 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:35.920 not I don't. 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.920 Ever want to be fraudulent or fake on there. 0:07:39.400 --> 0:07:41.920 So I don't want to have all these things going 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.200 on and then be like, Okay, we gotta make a 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.640 couple's video really quick, like come on, let's fit it in, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.480 Like it just feels like too much, and then it 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.720 gets to be an annoyance and it's not fun anymore. 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:52.480 Yeah you know? 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:52.920 Yeah? 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:53.560 Yeah. 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.400 Can I ask you both, because both obviously are in 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:00.760 bachelor couples, what do you guys think of the people 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:03.040 who go on reality shows? It doesn't even have to 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.560 be the bachelor, and then they make that their whole personality, 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.080 the couple's content. I see it a lot on Love Island. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.560 What's your take? 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.720 Yeah, I truly can't. You know what, I get it. 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.520 There's a part of me that I'm like, I get it, 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:20.680 and especially following immediately after a season, you're kind of 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:24.560 in this like peak zone. However, the longevity and the 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.680 sustainability of that, I don't Again, I agree with Jess. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:30.120 I'm like, I'm not sure how authentic it is. And 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.360 it can put such a strain on your relationship. Again, 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.280 we're only seeing highlights of people's lives, Like, we're not 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.560 gonna see them having an argument. They're not posting that 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:41.520 on social media, you know exactly. It puts a strain 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.760 on your relationship, and that's again something I had to 0:08:43.800 --> 0:08:46.360 like kind of realize, Okay, this is a little bit taxing, 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.320 is it worth it? And I think people again don't 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.320 have really the capability to come to terms with that 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:54.079 because they're like, oh, I've already done it. Now I 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.840 have to like I have to keep it up or 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.600 keep with it, and that can be the hardest part 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:00.960 of the journey. So I do think that it, you know, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:04.480 requires some level of self awareness and authenticity to that 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:07.240 that a lot of people will not really acknowledge. So 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.200 I'm like fifty to fifty on it. I'm like, I 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.120 get it, but then awesome, I don't know, it's. 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:18.760 The authenticity comment. Yeah, Jess, Yeah, you're not getting out 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:19.320 of this question. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:24.440 No, I totally agree because I think like, of course, 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.920 especially when we first got off a Paradise and we 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.880 were allowed to post each other, we had so much 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:34.120 content like on the back burner, just like ready to 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.400 post it, and then we were doing a lot of 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.800 fun things and we were going back and forth, and like, 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.920 I think people were really interested in seeing that, and 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:44.679 so again it's kind of like back to the like 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.199 reality of our day to day is not that interesting, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.840 So then it feels forced. So it's like when we 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.040 were first off the show where he's going back and 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.480 forth from Dallas to San Diego. 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:57.840 I'm going back and forth from Dallas and San Diego. 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.360 We're getting invited to a lot more things, Like we're 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:05.040 doing a lot more so now that a lot of 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.800 that has calmed down. It's just kind of like, you know, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.760 if it comes up and we're doing something cool, let's 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:12.160 film it. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:16.240 But we don't have to we also, I don't know, 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:17.600 I don't know. 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.839 I'm honestly, I agree so much with charity. Like when 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:21.920 you're first out. 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:25.440 It's like you want to pop off. I mean, let's 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:28.000 be honest, you want people to be invested even more. 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:33.680 And I think that it's just it's not realistic to 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:37.840 post that much. Unless that's what your life revolves around, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.160 then that's understandable. 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:40.839 But like we got other stuff going on. 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:46.560 Yeh, I ask, because again I'm single. What what would 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.120 be like the engagement when you post with Spencer or 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.120 with Dotten versus by yourself? Is it better or does 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:53.880 it do worse? 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:55.040 Oh? 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:58.440 When I post with Spencer it gets like triple the amount. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:00.240 It's we like make jokes about. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.520 People are so fake and that's what they're gonna answer. 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:06.240 I was like, it really is like my couples always 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.120 it's better, and it's because again, your fan base is 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.400 invested in your relationship. That's what they know you off of. 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.440 So it's like, Okay, we don't really care that you 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.559 watered your plant today and you have like four new succulents, 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.360 Like they don't care. It's like cool, but like we 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:22.240 want to see dot and I get it. But that's 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 where like it can become a little parasocial and it's 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:27.600 like everyone next no, I. 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.760 Like, I juststed something silly on TikTok like two days ago, 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:34.240 and it was like right after I had gotten out 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.120 of a hot yoga class or something, and someone's like 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:38.920 Werry Spencer and I'm like, well, he doesn't go to 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:45.920 so he's like a wily, insane like where I'm like 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:46.880 drinking a coffee. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:51.440 They're like, Wherry Spencer, that is crazy. I'm so sorry, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.240 Like I don't know, probably running that's what he does working. Okay, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.480 so wait, but I actually saw that you have started 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:00.839 to do that. Is that because spin to encourage you? 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.440 Because I love that. I'm like, you're running, You're a runner. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:07.000 I'm trying And I took like three weeks off and 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.959 I just started running again this week, like literally two 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:10.440 days ago. 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:11.320 I'm not even kidding. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:14.480 Oh. I picked it up because that's what he spends 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:17.920 like seventy five percent of his time doing. And I 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:19.680 was like, you know what, I'm tired of being left out, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:21.040 Like I want to be able to run a. 0:12:21.000 --> 0:12:21.760 Little bit with you. 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.680 That is so cute. Wait, okay, how hard has it been? 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:28.440 Because I'm like, I'm not a runner, and that's like 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:30.679 my one thing I want to become good at. But 0:12:30.760 --> 0:12:33.440 I don't know if it's in the car. It's truly so, you. 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:35.920 Know what, I'm really slow, Like I'm not good. I'm 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.839 not good at all, but I'm trying. And I think 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.080 that I thought I. 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.559 Hated it for years because I would just run in 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:46.440 like whatever tennis shoes that I had, and he's like, no, babe, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.040 he takes me to this like runner store. I don't 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:52.560 know there's a runner store store. 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:56.319 I've never been in that store. I will never. 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.720 Of course, you would a tennis shoe store. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.800 And so I got my feet fitted and like I 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.319 recommended all these shoes and so I got a pair, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.040 and you know, he went with me and stuff and 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.280 He's like, yeah, you should definitely get these ones, and 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.839 it changed everything, Like I actually it's it still is. 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.680 It hurts, but not as bad. 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.120 Maybe one day I'll get in a gym. This could 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:21.680 convince me. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:23.960 But we can do it together. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:34.199 Truly. I do have to bring it back to paradise 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:38.320 because I have so many questions as a viewer. You 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:41.680 came in and obviously you had a connection with Spencer, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.960 but you also had a connection with Sam. What were 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:48.520 you looking for and what qualities did Spencer have that 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.920 made you ultimately choose him? 0:13:52.160 --> 0:13:55.080 You know this, This question always comes up on these 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:56.439 little podcast. 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.520 Honestly, this is like no shade at all. 0:14:01.600 --> 0:14:04.280 I think Sam is super nice, like he was really 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:10.360 easy to get along with. I just think that he 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.400 definitely held back a little bit more. Spencer is very 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:16.440 much like do do do and that's how I am too, 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.600 And I don't know, he just matched my energy and 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:24.000 also we have like a couple more days together and 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:28.400 it was just an immediate spark, whereas like, definitely going 0:14:28.440 --> 0:14:32.760 along with Sam, I thought he was attractive, but there 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.800 was just not that initial like spark that I felt 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:38.840 with Spencer. And when you know both of them are 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.920 right there in your face. It's very apparent that I 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.160 just yeah, it's just honestly, it's not even comparable, Like 0:14:47.240 --> 0:14:50.160 I don't know that it come off mean, but it just. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:50.760 Wasn't at all. 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.360 I'm like, that's the right answer that show man. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:57.000 Yeah, like no shade at all. 0:14:57.040 --> 0:15:00.440 It just yeah, it was I've never felt that way 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.560 with anyone before. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:05.080 Obviously, That's why I got engaged. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:10.400 I actually just found my journal like a week ago 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.800 that I wrote in the entire time in Perarodise, and 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:15.520 I had not reread it in a year, and I 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:18.360 was like, you know what, I want to feel some butterflies, 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:21.560 like I'm gonna read this, And I literally wrote it 0:15:21.560 --> 0:15:22.400 out in my journal. 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:23.280 You know. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:26.360 It was a good date. But I couldn't stop thinking 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:27.479 about Spencer. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:27.960 The whole time. 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:29.720 That's so sweet. 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.600 And I was like, it was really cute to read 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:32.920 all of that. 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:38.360 Again, That's that's literally how you know I'm not I'm like, 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:40.600 my journal is probably the exact same way. I'm like, 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:45.320 I like everybody, but I love one person. I'm curious, 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:50.520 did you have like any relationship or not, like like friendship. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:53.640 Were you and Sam close before Paradise, Like have you 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.080 guys met or was that the first time y'all met 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.520 was on parl That was. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:15:59.480 The first time that we had met or I had 0:15:59.480 --> 0:15:59.920 talked to him. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.120 He was pretty close with Lean and Sidney from my 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:07.200 season and I have like said, popped on FaceTime once 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.040 or twice when they had been facetiming him. 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:10.120 But yeah, that was it. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:15.160 Did you go in with Sam or Spencer in mind? 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:16.160 Or who was on your list? 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.720 Actually both? Actually both of them. 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.680 Yes, they were like the only two guys that I 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:24.520 even had on my radar. 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.960 And it's so funny. I'll tell you guys a little secret. 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:32.160 So I would say my best friend manifested Spencer and 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:35.040 I because right before I was going I'll never forget, 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:39.080 We're sitting on our couch and I'm like, oh, I'm 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:39.840 like starting to. 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.640 Get cold feet just a little bit because I went through. 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.200 Some trauma after Joey's season, like everyone was so mean 0:16:46.240 --> 0:16:49.640 to me online. It was terrible, and I was like, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.800 I just don't know, like I'm finally better mentally, like 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.720 I feel really good. I just don't know if I 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.800 want to put myself in this situation to be in 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.040 the public I again. And I was feeling really overwhelmed, 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.000 and she's like, Jess, you are going and you're going 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.000 to show them the real you, and you're gonna fall 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.720 in love and you're gonna come back and you're gonna 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:08.520 be engaged to Spencer. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.680 And I was like whoa what She's. 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.120 Like name yeah, And I. 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:18.080 Was like okay, why and she's like, well, because he's 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:20.440 like the only one that you really like could click with. 0:17:20.560 --> 0:17:21.720 And I'm like, how do you go? 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.119 Like have you secretly met this man? But it's like, 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.560 what are you talking about? 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.040 And she's like no, I mean I just have been 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.159 thinking about it, and I just really I just have 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.560 this weird feeling, like I have this gut feeling. 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:37.360 And I was like, okay, you're you're a little crazy. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.199 I think that he's a little older than me. 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.000 I think I probably am not his vibe, Like I 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.760 just know him from social media and he's big fitness 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:49.040 guy and I'm like heated classes three times a girl, 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:50.240 you know what I mean? 0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:53.280 Like yeah, Like I don't let's not get too far 0:17:53.320 --> 0:17:57.960 ahead here. That is and she called it somehow, she 0:17:58.080 --> 0:17:58.520 called it. 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:02.159 So I have her number and so pretty future for me. 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:04.479 She she can do it. 0:18:04.520 --> 0:18:06.600 She's done it multiple times for me, it's actually a 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:07.520 little terrifying. 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:11.080 Okay, so she has some little superpowers okay. 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:13.000 Or something. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:13.520 I don't know. 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:18.200 Wait, I'm I'm very curious because obviously you guys got 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:22.800 engaged on Paradise. How was it with like meeting your parents? 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.240 Did they did Spencer have a conversation before you guys 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.639 got engaged, Like, how was that process? 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:29.440 Yes? 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.919 That was actually one of his major things that he 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:35.480 was like, I'm not proposing until i can talk to 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:39.000 both of her parents because I'm an only child, I 0:18:39.119 --> 0:18:41.800 have divorced parents and I'm really close with both of them. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.080 So he knew like just talking to my dad was 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.920 not gonna be good enough. He's like, I need to 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.600 talk to her mom too. So he got to talk 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.600 to both of them, and then I was like, well 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:53.919 that works for you, So I'm gonna ask that. I 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.800 walked to both of my parents and I talked to 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:00.360 them too, and it literally was a weightlift it off 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:04.560