1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ. Bucky 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck. How you doing, man, Man, I'm good, 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: I am good. It was a crazy football weekend. We 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: talked about a little bit on the podcast yesterday, but man, 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: you just never know. We talked about any giving Sunday. 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: I mean, anytime you put two teams uh in a game, 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: you just don't know. That's the nature of the National 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Football League. The good players on both teams, and if 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: you don't bring your a game, you certainly can suffer loss. 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter who you are, all right. I 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: want to get to a lot of topics today. We're 13 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: gonna talk about Ussell Wilson coming back. We've got a 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: discussion on what the Denver Broncos did against the Dallas 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: Cowboys and can other teams duplicate that. We're gonna hit that. UM, 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: the topic of of size at the running back position. 17 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: It's an interesting discussion. We'll get there as well, but 18 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: I think we gotta start with what we saw last night, 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: and that was Pittsburgh Steelers a little bit of a 20 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: controversial game. UM holding on and uh coming back, I 21 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: should say, and beating the Chicago Barras justin fields took 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: another step forward. I thought, in that ballgame, let's let's start. 23 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: First of all, we'll get the fields in a second. 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: The taunting stuff, Man, where you at on that? Um? Look, man, 25 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: it it doesn't bother me. I just think it's weird 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: that the league kind of did a one eighties shift. 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: Like last year it was about the fun league, Let's 28 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: have fun, let's do all this stuff, and then this 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: year it was, um, kind of really back in. But DJ, 30 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: we're eight nine weeks into the season. The rules are 31 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: what the rules are, and they've been called like this 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: from the beginning. It is responsibility of the coaches to 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: let the players know how it's going to be officiated 34 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: and know what the points of emphasis are, and then 35 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: it's on the players to be able to like do 36 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: it now. I'm gonna say this about the Cashier's Mars celebration, 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: whether or not he was taunting the Pittsburgh Steelers former team, 38 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: it was like a two minute celebration. He did a 39 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: spinning cutter karat kick, he saw his teammates, then he 40 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: stood in front of his teammates and then he skipped 41 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: over to the hash and looked at the Steelers team, 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: and so at some point I'm like, even if he 43 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: was almost like cash, you gotta get to the side 44 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: and so can get to put return team on, Like 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: it's not this party in celebration. So while it's ticky 46 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: tech in my estimation, like the call, I do understand 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 1: like why it was called because it was a lot 48 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: he did spend a lot of time putting attention on 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: himself and so I get it. I dig it. But 50 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: at that moment, did you at that stage of the game, 51 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: you always have to air on the side of course, 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: like you had a good play, you're good, the team 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: is solid, man, just don't do anything. Don't do anything 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: to give them a reason to thor fly. It's kind 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: of complex for me, um, because I think as much 56 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: as that you're taught as officials that the time of 57 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: the game, you know which game it is, that that 58 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't matter. The penalty is the penalty. I like it 59 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: common sense where at this point in the game, let's 60 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: let's go. I run over to him and get in 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: his ear and be like, get to get the crap 62 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: back to the sideline, get to the sideline, let's go. 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: Let's just yell at yellow, break it up, let's go, 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: and they'll knock it off. All that other stuff like 65 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: death if that's in the first quarter, that's in the 66 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: first quarter. Throw the flag. I don't. Yeah, I get it. 67 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: He was. It was dumb on his part to do that. 68 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, walked stinking halfway across the field to go 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: jaw out their sidelines. So was it taunting? Yeah, I 70 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: think it was taunting what he did. I just I 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: like the common sense approach of man, I can't let 72 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: this decide the football game. Like I just, I gotta 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: swallow my whistle. The other the other side of it, though, 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I said, it's kind of layered and complicated. I think 75 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: with both of us, you're coaching high school football. I've 76 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: had my son's coming through. My son just just graduated, 77 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: so we see firsthand. And I know people that are 78 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: listening that have kids or you know, just played high 79 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: school football. Everything that happens on Sundays is emulated at 80 00:03:55,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the high school level and from a like a ambassador thing. 81 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: If you think of the NFL is kind of a 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: steward of this great game. Whatever you allow at that 83 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: level is finding its way down to the high school level, 84 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: and I see it a bunch. I've seen it a 85 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: bunch of high school in the last few years with 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: with some of the time is out of control, man like, dude, 87 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: have have some respect for your opponent, have some respect 88 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: for the game. But that's what they've seen and so 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: they're emulating it there, I mean, and so like the 90 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: old man coach, we'll get on here and I'll say, like, 91 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: here's the thing that bothered me about it, like from 92 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: a coaching thing, like because you've seen it, Like on Thursday, 93 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: the coach had comes on and I'm like, what are 94 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: we doing? So the thing that bothered me about it? 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: And I would say this is an evilution because those 96 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: who have known me from when I was playing in 97 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: high school, in college or whatever, I wasn't always this way, 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Like I was very selfish when it came to those 99 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: things and celebrations. However, in that moment the part I 100 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: don't mind the karate kick, and then he's with his teammates, 101 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: but he goes from his teammates and kind of breaks 102 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: away from the group to be like, look at me. 103 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: After he does his kick, and then he celebrates with 104 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the team, he think continues on. And so when you're 105 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: a coach and you're always talking about the team to team, 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: the team, Look, maybe we want to have a gang 107 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: of fund uh. One of the things that I love 108 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: that the league does is when the defensive guys go 109 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: and get an interception or fumble and they all run 110 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: to together. That's cool, but you notice it's always a 111 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: unit in a team. That's all just do it with 112 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: your team. Like pro sports are different in high school 113 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: and college and youth sports and all the other stuff, 114 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: but still the novelty of it being a team, you 115 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: still want to kind of keep that intact man celebrate 116 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: with your teammates. And I think I think that's the 117 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: difference too, because I can already hear some people saying 118 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: that that I speak out of both sides of my 119 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: mouth because I'm a Padre fan. I love for an 120 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: endo tattoos and the bat flips and the celebrations. Baseball 121 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: is a one on one sport. There might be nine 122 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: guys out there, it is one picture. It is one 123 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: hitter Mono Imano, and they're infusing some of that energy 124 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: into a sport that's kind of been falling off and 125 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: losing losing energy, losing young people, so having having some 126 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: fun in a little energy. And some people say, oh, 127 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: that's tawning. I don't necessarily see. I think that's apples 128 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: and orange. I think it's a totally different running flip 129 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: to bat, Like I talked to my son or something like, man, 130 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: I just wish I could just k not run out 131 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: and just like throw it or whatever. But a lot 132 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: of times when you watch those celebrations in baseball, they're 133 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: not directed to the other guy. The guys always looked 134 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: to the dugout, like right, it's energizing their own dugout, 135 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: like when Korea hits his risk and he's talking about 136 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: his time, or when you see was it Batista years 137 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: ago and was a giant bat flip man? Right, But 138 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: a lot of times it's directed towards your team. They're 139 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: not looking at the picture and all that. It's very 140 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: rare that is I'm showing up the picture. It is 141 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: more so it's like the internal joke amongst the squad. 142 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. Like I mean, so for me, I 143 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: think that is still more of a team deal. Then 144 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: oh look at me, Look how cool I am or whatever, 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: like That's why I didn't mind when the White Sox 146 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: had the home run chain and all that that stuff 147 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: is that stuff is fun team stuff amongst the team. 148 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: I think it's different if it's really directed at another 149 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: player and that kind of stuff. And so I just 150 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: would wish that cashes. Hey man, just do it with 151 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: your team. Do it with your team. Didn't go get 152 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: off the field, by the way, last baseball story, then 153 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 1: we'll move on. You remember when Barry Bonds will be playing. 154 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: He was I think Barry Bonds was the first one 155 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: to do this when he was in left field and 156 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: his picture would give up a bomb and he wouldn't move. 157 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: Do you know that? He would sit there and the 158 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: ball get and he wouldn't even like he would just 159 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: he would just sit there and left field banned And 160 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: when don't you move? So true story, true story, Buck. 161 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: This is to show you how kids emulate what they 162 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: see at the pro level. So I'm in Pony League baseball. 163 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: So that is like third junior high right, thirteen fourteen. Yeah, 164 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: and we got this. We got this guy on our 165 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: team and he's playing left field. Our picture gives up 166 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: what he thinks the home run, So our left fielder 167 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: he's gonna be Barry Bonds. He's gonna stand there for 168 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: first of all, to jerk moved your own picture, right, 169 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: You're like, jeez, you did it so hard, I'm even 170 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: gonna move. So he stands there, doesn't even look, and 171 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you hear the tink tink, Like 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: that's off the fence, you dummy. He gotta turn around 173 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: and spread you guys running around the basis. Oh my god, 174 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: so mad? You know I'm bad that little picture of 175 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: that little fourteen year old picture, like really really do. 176 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: So here here's the thing with me and the tawning stuff, 177 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: because it is the evolution of of Bucky Brooks. Because 178 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: I would tell you DJ I was the absolute worst. 179 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: I was worse in high school. I was worse in 180 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Little League and all those other things. Like I did 181 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: it all the wrong way. I've since learned that that's 182 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: not the way that you should play the game. But 183 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: my favorite player coming up was Ricky Henderson. So that so, 184 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: so that shows you everything that you need to know. 185 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: That you pop the jersey? Did you pop the jersey? 186 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: That's everything. I was the guy who had four batting gloves, 187 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: two on and two in my pockets, Like am I 188 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: am sliding and popping up. I am uh snaking the 189 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: baseball in center field, like snatching it out of the 190 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: air at the last minute. I am hot Dog City. 191 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: Like that is what I believe in. Like that is 192 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: what I've always loved. I've always loved that part of 193 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: it or whatever. And so when you talk about Barry 194 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: Bonds part of man, I love Barry Bonds when he 195 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: was with the Pirates. I love when he would just 196 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: hit the home run and into slow trot um, all 197 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: of that stuff, And so to me, I get it. 198 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: But I also would just say to the younger Bucky, like, hey, 199 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: just find a way to make your way to the team. 200 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Just just to the team. Just work with the team, 201 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: like it's fun. It's all of those stuff. But just 202 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: could he's such a bad such a such a like 203 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: just such a DJ, like you have no idea, like 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: just stuff written on my towel. In football, walking into 205 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: the end zone when you way away, like walked the 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: last five steps into the zone just because put the 207 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: ball down right past the inline um, hit three pointers 208 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: in basketball, and blow kisses to the like just all 209 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: the stuff that I'm here, I would have I would 210 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: have left all the stuff, all the stuff that you 211 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: that I'm like, men, get get back, I said last one, 212 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to all this football stuff and 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: this is I'm having too much fun here. Um, you've 214 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: got to ask next time you see Clatt, next time 215 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: you see Joel, you've got to ask him about all 216 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: of his Rickey Henderson stories, because he's got a ton 217 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: of Ricky Henderson's stories because he he actually was in 218 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: the Potter's organization when Ricky was there, so he spent 219 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: some time with them. But the one, the one that 220 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: that he this is not when he was there. But 221 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: I think Claid had told this one. I think it's 222 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: actually made the rounds or whatever about the all have 223 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: you heard the John oliverod one? So Ricky never knew 224 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: anybody's name, right, he didn't he you know, obviously talked 225 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: to the third person and didn't know when he didn't there, 226 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,719 Speaker 1: didn't just didn't care, right, So he was playing. I 227 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: don't even remember where he was. It was a different 228 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: he might have been. I would Ricky ever played for 229 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: the Blue Jays maybe at the end or something. I 230 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: feel like he played everywhere he played for just anyways, 231 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: he's late in his career, and I think had the 232 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: double flap helmet right, yeah, he had had too, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 233 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: so we had that so um he said, it's that 234 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: like batting practice or one day or whatever. Um Ricky, 235 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: Ricky signs there or had just come there and one 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: of them had just gotten there and uh so they're 237 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: taking batting practice and whatever and Ricky comes over to 238 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: him and he's like, uh, hey, what's up man, Now 239 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: you're doing good good. He's like, yeah, I played, I played. 240 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: Uh uh He's all, that's a like the weird hat 241 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: hat thing you got there. He said, I played with 242 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: a guy that had that that hat like that. He's like, yeah, Ricky, 243 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: I played with you for two years. That was me. 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: It's we played together for two years. That is I mean, 245 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: that is that is my guy. DJ, Like, I can't 246 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: tell you between First it was Reggie Jackson because when 247 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson was playing with the Yankees late I had 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: to be like eight nineteen years old. So he's hitting 249 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:21,079 Speaker 1: bombs and he's sticking his hip out all of this 250 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 1: stuff I love. But then Ricky Henderson because still in 251 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: bases was always like my favorite thing to watch. It 252 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: was always the thing that I wanted to do and whatever, 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: and so you can tell me anything about Ricky Henderson, 254 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: the greatest of all time, last last, last one class. 255 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm stealing class thunder on this by the way. But 256 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: he the other one was Clatt was Ricky was on 257 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: like a rehab assignment and uh and it might have 258 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: been spring training or minor league camp or whatever. So 259 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: he was Clad played with him for a couple of 260 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: days and Clatt was hitting behind him in the in 261 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: the in the order, and he said, Ricky, would you know, 262 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: clap me on the deck circle. Ricky be leading off 263 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: the inning. So Ricky would walk by him and kind 264 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: of click his feet in the ground like always done. 265 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: And he just walked by Clatton. Go to the next 266 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 1: time he class right, come up, you walked by him 267 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: and go three. And then the next time he'll be 268 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: like one. And so finally class, Like, I have no 269 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: what is this guy talking about. He's like, so I 270 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: go to the skipper and I'm like, Ricky walks by me. 271 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: He's given me numbers every time he goes Yeah, that's 272 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: how many pitches he expects you to take so we 273 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: can steal second base. He's one of the man I 274 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: love a man. I love, I love, I love, I 275 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: love how people come to the pot with all that. Alright, 276 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: we'll switch Justin Fields played baseball. What's upon a time, 277 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: there's your transition. What do you think? What do you 278 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: think of Fields? DJ? I think we've said this, and 279 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: we said this a ton of times. There was every 280 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: anthying question about Justin fields talent, But there was never 281 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: any question about his talent when we were looking at 282 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: him throughout the process and all that stuff. He had 283 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: a level talent. I think what we got a chance 284 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: to see is if he is able to kind of 285 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: put it together a level talent with the right scheme 286 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: and him paying close attention to the mechanics and fundamentals, 287 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: he has the potential to be a guy who can 288 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: be a high level player in this league. Like, the 289 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: talent is there, the poison is there, the confidence that 290 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: he plays with. I love the fact that when you 291 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: look at him and you watched him in the game, 292 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: he's always very, very even killed. And I think for 293 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: a young player who kind of plays the game like 294 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: he plays, I'm really surprised at how even killed he 295 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: is when it comes to an emotional standpoint. He makes 296 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: big runs he makes big throws. He just kind of 297 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: keeps it together. I think what we got a chance 298 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: to see is, man, the Bears have a guy that 299 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: they certainly can build around. I hate the scheme that 300 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: he's playing in. I still don't love how they're utilizing them. 301 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: But man, there's a lot of stuff that you can 302 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: work with. And he definitely isn't afraid of the moment. 303 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Because the way he played against the Steelers the top 304 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: defense to what they were throwing out. I think, if anything, 305 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: if I'm up top in ownership with the Bears, I 306 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: feel good that, all right, we might have found that guy, 307 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: and then we need to make sure that we nurture 308 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: him the right way. I want to read the last 309 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: line of my report, um, and this is what gets 310 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: me excited about justin from what we've seen the last 311 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 1: two games. So this is the last thing I said. Overall, 312 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: I think I think Fields has a chance to be special. 313 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: But it's gonna take some time for him to speed 314 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: up his clock in the passing game, and I think 315 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: we've seen it the last two games. He's starting to 316 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: play with more urgency. They're starting to be a little 317 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: bit more pace to what he's doing. In the passing game, 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: that's that's his that's his deal. Once he gets that 319 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: figured out, the rest of it, he's got man. He 320 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: has all of the DJ. He he has the ability 321 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: to make plays um all schedule in the pocket. He 322 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: certainly is athletic enough to make things happen outside of 323 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: the parket where there as a runner well scrambles and 324 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: extending time and making plays down the field throwing UM. 325 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: I think the big game moxie and confidence. I don't 326 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: thing that can be underscored. The fact that he played 327 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: on a big stage, that or Hire State, played in 328 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: big games, and we saw him play well in some 329 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: of those big games, particularly in the playoffs. I think 330 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: he has it now. It's about the Bears really when 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I say nurtured the right way, like really coaching it 332 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: the right way and putting those things. Uh the only thing. Look, 333 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: I think they could utilize his movement skills more. I'm 334 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: not saying utilize him as a runner, but change the 335 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,119 Speaker 1: launch point of the pocket. If you can put some sprintouts, 336 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: if you put some half rolls, just some other stuff 337 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: so where he's not just always hey, he's always gonna 338 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: be at this spot on the grassy knoll. You can 339 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: go get him just moving around. I think there are 340 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: different ways to utilize his athleticism to make it work. 341 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: But no, I mean, I think he's everything that you 342 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,479 Speaker 1: want in terms of the position, size, athleticism, big playability. 343 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: He has all this stuff. The one play called because 344 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: I know they've gotten a lot of grief for you know, 345 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: kind of the lack of things you just mentioned and 346 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: not making it as quarterback friendly as it could be. 347 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: There's one play call in that game that I absolutely loved. 348 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: I think it was It was towards the end of 349 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: the game, and I think it was a short yard 350 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: as he was second short or third and short. I 351 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: think maybe maybe been third and short um when they 352 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: took hit the slot fade to uh Allen Robinson so big. 353 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,439 Speaker 1: I love it was a big time throw. But what 354 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: I love about it is you take a quarterback and 355 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: you put him in an obvious run situation and that 356 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: dictates the coverage, which you you know, when he came 357 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: up to the line of sperments, he knows he's got that. 358 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: There is no there is nothing for me to do 359 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: except pit my back foot and give this thing some 360 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: air and let Allen Robinson, go get it. But that's 361 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: an aggressive mindset of saying, Okay, we're gonna dictate in 362 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: this down and distance. We know what they're going to do. 363 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: Now you know what you're gonna do. So there's no 364 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: post that there's no post that decision to be made 365 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: here like there that this is where the ball is going. 366 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: I just make the throw, you know. And I think 367 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: that I think there was a big time play because 368 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: it did go against all the norms, all the because 369 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, hey, look here we go after the quarterback. 370 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: What we're gonna do is we need stick the bill. 371 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna keep you a quarterback, sneaker, whatever it is. 372 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: And then they rare back and you're like, oh, they're 373 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: taking a shot, you know. And they took a few 374 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: different shots in that game. One where he missed, he missed, mooney, 375 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: what did he miss? Got one down the sideline, he 376 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: launched a moon ball and it was just maybe a 377 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: handful of yard show. But then he comes back and 378 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: he hits that drops that diamondo Allen Robinson and he's like, man, 379 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: they just I mean, the first time they can really 380 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: utilize all areas of the field. They can stretch it vertically, horizontally, 381 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: he can stretch it as a runner as they thrower. 382 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: There's a lot to like about what he brings to 383 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the table. Literally, it's just about what can the Bears 384 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: do to bring all of that out? Because now my 385 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: challenge if from ownership, Hey, coach, how are we gonna 386 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: take this to the next level? How are we gonna 387 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: take him from uh good to great in the next 388 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: few years? What do you have in the bag to 389 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: allow him to become a guy that realizes all of 390 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: his potential in the league. Yeah, no, I'm I'm excited 391 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: to see where this goes with Justin Herbert. But definitely 392 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: he's heading in the right direction and excited for him 393 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: and for Bears fans who have been waiting for a 394 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: guy like this. So it's fun to see him improving, 395 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: taking those next steps and we'll see where he goes 396 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: from there. All right, I want to get to this 397 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: next topic on the Dallas Cowboys offense and defending them. 398 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna do that right after this, all right, Buck, 399 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: I'll give you the floor here Vic Fangio and the 400 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: job he did against the Dallas Cowboys. What you saw, 401 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: what you've read, what you've heard, and if it can 402 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: be duplicated, DJ, you know how this league is. This 403 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: league is a copy cat league. I mean, I feel 404 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: like every league is that once teams see that you lose, 405 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: they go right to the tape and they're trying to 406 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: figure out, well, what did they do to slow this down? 407 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: Cowboys had numb one offense and football having a lot 408 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: of success. They're putting forty points up on everybody? What 409 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: did the Broncos do to slow it down? So I 410 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: just I didn't. Let's take a look at the tape 411 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: and DJ, I was actually surprised at what I saw. 412 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: It wasn't anything that was complex. I can't even say 413 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: that it was very creative. The Denver broad Goes used 414 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: a four man rush. They used uh man coverage with 415 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: a tactic that we call man match, which means that 416 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 1: you're matched up man deman, but on cross or crossing routes, 417 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: you pass those things off to other defenders and you 418 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: free up. And what it does is it gives you 419 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: the best of both worlds as a defensive call, because hey, 420 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: I got tight coverage on everything vertical, down the field, outbreaking, 421 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: but on those trouble routes that most teams have in 422 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: man demand, I'm switching them off so my guys don't 423 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: get picked. So now, if we do it right, we 424 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: eliminate the scary part of being in man demand. And 425 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: they did it man, and they did it flawlessly. And 426 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 1: what I saw was the team that we talked about 427 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: being perfectly constructed to make a playoff run because one 428 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: of the reasons teams lauded, we observers lauded the Denver 429 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: Broncos because they had pass rushers and they had corners. 430 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 1: Now none of the pass rushers that we thought we're 431 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: gonna be there are playing rather Chevan von Miller, but 432 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: they're commitment to getting cornerbacks and a ton of the 433 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: pastor Tan and all those other guys. They now can 434 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: lock up and play man to man with the best. 435 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: And Justin Simmons played a role. And because you can 436 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: play man to man DJ, it opens up a new 437 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: can of worms when you start playing, because you have 438 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: plus one in the running game. Because the man to man, 439 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: you gain an additional defending when you play man. And 440 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: then in the passing game, depending on how you play, 441 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: you take away all the gammings and the layups. And 442 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: when you begin to take away the lips and make 443 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: people earn their yards, particularly at a time when so 444 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: many teams are playing soft coverage changes the clock, and 445 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: that's what they were able to do. They took away 446 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: the layoups that Dak Prescott and the Cowboys that normally had, 447 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: they took away to pick plays and they made him 448 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 1: have to force tight window throws and they couldn't get 449 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: it done. Yeah, that's interesting because, like I think the 450 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Charger did things a little differently against that Cowboys group. 451 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: The Cowboys ran it really well against the Chargers where 452 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: the Chargers held them the twenty points um so one 453 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: I think of one of the better defensive performances in 454 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: terms of points against the Cowboys. Obviously, Brandon Staley comes 455 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: from that Vic Fangio tree, so I'm always I'm always 456 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: fascinated by that. I don't think people, you know, average 457 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: family realize that's how much some of these people talk 458 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: around the league too. Vick and Brandon probably aren't talking 459 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: about that because they're in the same division. But you 460 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 1: have other coaches that I wonder, I wonder, I wonder 461 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: if they talk like a little bit, or if Vick 462 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 1: is able to look at the tape he knows how 463 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: his stuff would work as Obi wan Kenobi. He's looking 464 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: at me and like, ah, Skywalker, like he just had 465 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: done X, Y and Z. You had him, you were close. 466 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: But let me show you how this is done. And 467 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: if he took parts of the Charges game plan and say, okay, 468 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: if they just had done this as opposed to that, 469 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: maybe this would have been a more effective answer to 470 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that the Cowboys did. But yeah, 471 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: but now, DJ is funny because I told you that 472 00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: last week. I was looking at a thing on just 473 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: and Herbert and how teams appear to slow them down, right, 474 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: Because the last two games that we've seen the Charge 475 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: of Pride to Philly, we saw the Pagots and the 476 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: Ravens have a little bit of success just kind of 477 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: slowing down the offense, get them out of rhythm. And 478 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of the same stuff. Hey, we're 479 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna play coverage over pressure, we're going to play some 480 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: man to man, we're mixing some zone, but we'll do 481 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: some different things to kind of take away some of 482 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: those windows. And just like we saw early in the 483 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: year with everyone playing to sell and too high in 484 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: those things, I do wonder if down the stretch. We 485 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: could see more of these teams playing man to man 486 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: with some some matchup principles to make life difficult on 487 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks because you take away to lay us, but you 488 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: also take away some of the things the concepts that 489 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: teams typically go to to get away from man coverage. 490 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: The thing that I would say the kind of the difference. Um, 491 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: So you look at the Charges the last three games 492 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: you talked about the two that they struggled, and Herbert 493 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: has one of the best games of his career against 494 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. Both and all three of those games, I 495 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: should say, a lot of four man rush, you know, 496 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: and Patriots even some some three man rush. The difference 497 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: I would say is they were you know, they were 498 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: matching their coverages with their fronts more. And those other 499 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: two games. I think in that Eagles game, you're rushing for, 500 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: but you're giving your you're creating some layups that are 501 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: out there. So the ball is out, the ball is 502 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: out quick um, and the Chargers did a good job 503 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: of combination of ball out quick, mixing some screens, um, 504 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: move the pocket. Uh so all those different things so 505 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 1: that the the that rush didn't get there. I think 506 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: he got hit one time in that game. You go 507 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 1: back and watch those other games, they were getting home 508 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 1: with those limited rushers because they had matched the coverage. 509 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: So there's no easy throats. There's nothing worse than is 510 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: a pass rusher and you're going, there's no way I 511 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: can get home. He's he's got a hitch just waiting 512 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: for him anytime he wants it. Um. And that's what 513 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: that's what the Chargers took advantage of this last week. Yeah, 514 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think there's a big time 515 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: because I think you have to be able to do 516 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: those things. Um. When I think other Eagles and you know, 517 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: we we've we've talked about some of the struggles that 518 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: they've had on defenses because it's not a very aggressive style. 519 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: And I think I saw um got somebody tweet up, 520 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: maybe Mike Combardy tweet up, Like in the last quarterbacks 521 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: they play, there's very few incompletions. It's like incompletions that 522 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: they played against like Pat Mahomes and Herbert Cars, Like 523 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: they're just gifting these these guys opportunities to go up 524 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: and down the field, and you just can't do that, 525 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: Like it's too hard in this league, Um to let 526 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: guys hit lay up after lay up after lay up 527 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: at the lap and then say, oh, we're just gonna 528 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: shut them down in the red zone. Well, it's almost 529 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: like remember when we used to play NBA JAM NBA JAM, 530 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 1: if you hit three shots, you get on fire. So 531 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: then you that's what they're doing. It's NBA JM. They're 532 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: just anywhere, just launching it. And so it's one of 533 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: those things where these hot quarterbacks and so they have 534 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to change it. But I 535 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: do think it's a good observation. Obviously you're there every 536 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: week to see the charges, but I will say I 537 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: can even come away more impressed with Justin Herbert because 538 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: that's kind of like the first I would say, a 539 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: little bit of adversity that we've seen from him, the 540 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: first time he's had two bad games in a row. Yeah, like, hey, okay, 541 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: the fastball to taken away to fastball? Do I have 542 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: any other things in the repertoire? And then you saw 543 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: him be like, okay, I'll feed this out. And so 544 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: to me, that's when you begin to separate those great 545 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,199 Speaker 1: quarterbacks from the others, because because the great ones have 546 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: multiple ways of being able to do that sectually. Oh, 547 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: I can play Deacon dunct. Oh you want to push 548 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: it down the field, I'll play that game. Oh you 549 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: want to use my legs and let's they just have 550 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: more tools in the toolbox, and I think justin Herbert 551 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: shows you all of those tools in the toolbox that 552 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: makes him very, very effective as a high end quarterback, 553 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: no doubt. Um, all right, quickly before we get to 554 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: uh this running back thing, I want to hit on 555 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: your expectations with with Russ coming back. Russell Wilson's gonna 556 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: be back, by the way, By the way, I did 557 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: I I did laugh a little bit at this because 558 00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: you know how every other team what there would be 559 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: reports say, Russell Wilson back of practice, he's gonna he's 560 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna be He's gonna play this week. No, no, no, no, 561 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: We're gonna do a press release with quotes from the 562 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: doctor who's amazed at this recovery. He's never seen a 563 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: more dedicated athlete. Just like, stop, man, he's stopped. Here's like, 564 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: here's the thing. And I really like Russell, right, I 565 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: do really like and I've always liked even though he 566 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: went to the rival school. Um in read, I've always 567 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: liked him, and then he goes to Wisconsin, he has success. 568 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: Like I've always liked Russell, I've always loved his thing, 569 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: and I like the fact that he really bought into 570 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: Pete's thing. But he has become I think, as the 571 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: young people say, he's a little extra. He's a little extra. 572 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: Even the video proclaiming his return to health, right, Oh 573 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, DJ, you have to look it up. They 574 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: have a video of him working out. They have a 575 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 1: video of him and the doctor's office looking at the 576 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: X rays, and they have all this stuff and and 577 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: then it kind of finishes off like in Lambo Field, 578 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: like video of Lambo Field, And I'm like, the production 579 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,120 Speaker 1: crew has to follow you all around and document all 580 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: of this stuff so everyone knows that you're coming back. 581 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: And I get it, right, and I know we're in 582 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: this new era because Tom Brady did what Tom versus time, 583 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: and I like, I get it. It's still different though 584 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 1: it's still it's still a lot. And so he let 585 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: us know that he's coming back. And so I'm excited 586 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: that Russell's coming back for the Seahawks, and he certainly 587 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: need him. I'm sure they're gonna let him cook when 588 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: he comes back right away and then we'll see I 589 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: just hate well, maybe we will get a chance to 590 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: see him and Aaron Rodgers to be such a great show, 591 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: like to team players doing their deal. You know. So 592 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: maybe we need maybe we're doing it wrong, maybe we 593 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: need to embrace this. Like I so last Monday, a 594 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: week ago, I called in sick for the first time. Yeah, 595 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: since we've been sometimes working at the network. First time, 596 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: first time, so foolish, And I didn't release any statements 597 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 1: I just then. But but you know what, you know 598 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: what you should have done when you're sitting there and 599 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: you didn't feel great and you're laying in the bed 600 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: and you got the covers all the way up to 601 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: your neck and you're sweating for you yes, yeah, So 602 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: so here's my press release. Um uh we talked to 603 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: or this will be from the doctor. Uh. Daniel Jeremiah's 604 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: stomach after having some bad Mexican food was in terrible shape. 605 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Um but I have never seen a stomach recover as 606 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,719 Speaker 1: fast as his did to be able to be on 607 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: the podcast the following day, so tough after having been 608 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: up most of the night awful awful symptoms. Had to 609 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: resil what's the effort and hydration and recovery and then 610 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: back on the podcast. But you have to I've never 611 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: seen in my medical history, right, you have to have 612 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: the video then a company and showing you at the 613 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: refrigerator like downing PDA LIGHTE and all kinds of stuff 614 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: like getting back you're waking up early the next day, 615 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: like hitting the peloton, like just letting know, like the 616 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: road to recovery, all of this stuff. Time stamp cheremized 617 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: your bathroom door open, just getting up, just getting after 618 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: like all all of this because I guess that's what 619 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: we do now. We make we make sure that we 620 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: can see we can see everybody. Extra is the women 621 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: in out little extra? All right, let's get We're gonna 622 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: get to this running back chat right after this. Okay, box, 623 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: I was talking with a defensive coach and uh, he 624 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: brought up an interesting point. He was just talking about 625 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: as a defense, the difference between dealing with a smaller 626 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: back versus a bigger back. And his point was, um, 627 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: you know, look, when you get into the fourth quarter 628 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: of a game and your defense, after you've been tackling 629 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: a two thirty pound back over and over again, like 630 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: get to the point where there. That's there's where that's 631 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: different than tackling these two hundred pound backs all day long. 632 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: And even if you were throwing the ball a bunch 633 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: at the big you know, for the first three quarters 634 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: of the game, as you know the way that the 635 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: league is right now, right, you throw to get the lead, 636 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 1: your run to finish it. That's kind of the way 637 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: it is. So having to tackle those guys in the 638 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: fourth quarter that there's just a different toll on a defense. Um, 639 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about big backs versus small back. So 640 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: I want to hit you with this and get your 641 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: thoughts because having to bible look this up of all 642 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 1: the teams that are leading their division, this is their 643 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: running back room. Okay, and we'll look at the size 644 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: of them. You're ready, all right, here we go. So 645 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Zack Moss five nine two oh five, Singletary five 646 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: seven two oh three. So they don't really have that 647 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: that guy Um Ravens, Latavious Murray's six thirty, They've got 648 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: free minute two oh six. H Levian Bell his weights 649 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: all over the place. I think he says he's like 650 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: to ten now he's been like too forty five, he's 651 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: been two oh five. I don't know. Um. Obviously he's 652 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: like Luther and Ross. He's never known up oh man, alright, 653 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: P I love Luther, Um, alright. The Titans obviously, Derrick 654 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: Henry is gone, so you've got Adrian Peterson is six 655 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: one twenty UM. The Chargers don't have a big back. 656 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: They've got Austin Ekeler five ten two hundred, Justin Jackson 657 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: six ft two hundred. The Cowboys zeke is two twenty 658 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: eight pounds powarts two oh nine. The Packers we get 659 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: to the UH to that division a J. Dillon at 660 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: six ft forty seven complementing Aaron Jones who's five nine, 661 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: two oh eight, So you could definitely a j Delon 662 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: can be your four minute hammer. The Bucks four net 663 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: six ft twenty eight. That's a big back, UM. Ronald 664 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 1: Jones is two oh eight. And the Cardinals James Conners 665 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: have an unbelievable year. It's a great UH comp They're great. 666 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: It's a fit, I should say, with the Cardinals in 667 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: their spread offense. So he's sixty three chase ed months. 668 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: So there are a couple of teams, notably, I would 669 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: say the Chargers and the Bills, who don't have that 670 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: that bigger back. It's it's interesting when you when you 671 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: look at it. DJ is really interesting and UM. The 672 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: reason it's so interesting is because one of the things 673 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: that we can debate and people will debate, like analysts 674 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: will talk about running and all those other things, but 675 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't UM take into consideration like the real life 676 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: impact that tackling runners has on the defense. And so 677 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: when the defensive coach talks about big backs and the 678 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: importance or the impression of doing it, it really matters UM. 679 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: And talking to Matt Rule, I was out. I think 680 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: Matt Rule was talking about UM building a perfect team 681 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: and he said, look, when he builds his team, he 682 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: wants to think about the defense having to tackle running backs, 683 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: running between the tackles, running downhill between the tackles, having 684 00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: to put your paths on them and deal with him. 685 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: There is a wearing effect that that is on the defense, 686 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: which is very similar to being in the boxing ring 687 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: just dealing with body blows. It is the cumulive effect 688 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: of just man, I can tackle this big guy, can't. Hey, Hey, 689 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: you gotta slow this dude down. Because DJ UM yesterday 690 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: when we did the podcast and we're doing the show 691 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: and you broke down Nick Chubb and we talked about 692 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: the goal of the offensive coordinator is to be able 693 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: to create a run where you get the running back 694 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: on the safety in space. And sometimes we're think about, oh, well, yeah, 695 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: because you can make a miss, no, so he can 696 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: run them over early. So he can run them over 697 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: early and set the table for the rest of the 698 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: stuff because it is hard for smaller defensive backs to 699 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: be able to deal with big facts over and over again. 700 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: In quick story, I told you, like, going back to 701 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: my playing days, we used to play the Tendency Titan 702 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: Slash Houston Orlers, whatever one can call him. Eddie George 703 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: was back there, and what the Titans would do is 704 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: they would crack the wide receivers. That mean they would 705 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: come down and block the safeties, and they was on 706 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: the corners unblocked, and they're running the stretch play. And 707 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: so in the first quarter you're like courageous and you 708 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: throw your body in there. Eddie George's two pounds. Second quarter, 709 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: you're not as courageous, but you kind of roll up 710 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: in there. A third and fourth quarter he's got a 711 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 1: head of steam up. And also, you know big backs, 712 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: they get juiced up, the more carrious they get. So 713 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: now he's fully lathered up in the fourth quarter and 714 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I gotta how many times are you 715 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: gonna do it? And you see it because you see 716 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: those big games Nick Chuck. Those guys do not want 717 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,000 Speaker 1: to tackle, and so yes, it does matter having those 718 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: big backs. We've seen a j dealon have success. James 719 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: Conner leaves the league and touchdowns. Some of that is 720 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 1: on runs, but a lot of times it's screens in space. 721 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: Those little guys having to take great angles and make 722 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: great one on one tackles. It makes a difference. And 723 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: as it gets colder, um, you're the Green Bay packs. 724 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: And one of the reason why I like when they 725 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: got a j. Dillon. When is negative and it's really cold, 726 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: it's a lot to deal with and you're sitting there 727 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out why am I on this field today? 728 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: And then you've got this dude just coming downhill like 729 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 1: a you don't want to have to deal with it. 730 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: So yes, I do believe in every running back stable 731 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,959 Speaker 1: you should have a big back that you force people 732 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: to have to tackle over and over and over again. 733 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: But I think about a couple other young backs. Javonte 734 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Williams listed at to twelve. I think he cut to 735 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: get to to twelve to run at his protet end 736 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: up running four or five five. I think he plays 737 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: north of to twenty. I would guess he's a physical back. 738 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: He's a tackle breaker. And then you think about Jonathan 739 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts, that speed, power combination, and 740 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: so you know, to me, it's it's fascina. When you 741 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: talk to offensive line coaches around the league, they'll talk 742 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: about um, using formation and personnel to dictate, you know, 743 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: who they want on the on the field on the 744 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: other side, and when you have the luxury of a big, 745 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: fast back, now it's like you can't be right. You know, 746 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: we want to put you want to put third team 747 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: personnel out there and bring your bigs on the field. 748 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 1: Now you don't have anybody can run with this dude. 749 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: You know, there's not enough guys that can run with him. 750 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 1: If he has a creasey's gone. Um. And then it's like, okay, 751 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: well now we want to spread you out. You want 752 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: to pull your little guys on the field. We'll have 753 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: fun tackling this big joker, you know, like that that's 754 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: a chess piece. Now, that is a chess peason. That's 755 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: why like Nadia Harris and Jonathan Taylor and those guys 756 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: have value because if you can't put them on the 757 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: field where they are credible threats in the passing game, 758 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 1: where they can stay on the field in the spread 759 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: formation and you've got sub packages, nickel, dime quarter, all 760 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: those little dbs on the field and you're making them 761 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: make one on one tackles in space and you're you're 762 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: you're testing the courage, you're testing um their willingness to hey, 763 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,839 Speaker 1: are they gonna make business decisions or they can keep 764 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: playing football. That's what you want to do, and that's 765 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: how you dictate the terms. And ultimately, this game is 766 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: a violent game and it's a physical game, and the 767 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: team that typically wins as a team that out hits 768 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: the other team. I think there are a lot of 769 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: teams that are realizing the value and having that sledge 770 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: hammer at running back that can do more than just 771 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: a four minute Like no, he can play, he can 772 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: catch the while out back. He can do a bunch 773 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 1: of different things. Yeah, it's always, Uh, these conversations lead 774 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,919 Speaker 1: me to do some homework. So I'm gonna go dig 775 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,439 Speaker 1: in the next gen stats before the next episode because 776 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see who's who's doing the most uh 777 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: six offensive lineman sets in the league. I see it 778 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot with the Chargers. They've been doing a lot 779 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: with Seniel Kelemente every week. Um. And then who's in 780 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel the most. I'm guessing it's the Browns because 781 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: they are in thirteen a lot um. But that is again, 782 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: you're dragging bigs onto the field when you do that, 783 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: and I think from the Charger standpoint, it makes sense 784 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: you dragged the big guys out there because Austin Ekeler 785 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: is you know, I think I'd rather have the big 786 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: guys out there than the little guys because he's just 787 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a problem. Yeah, he is going to 788 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: be a problem. And the thing that you want to 789 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 1: be able to do is you want to put the 790 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: bigs out there and you want to hammer folks, you 791 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 1: want to wear them down, you want to control the tempo. 792 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: And one of the reasons why the Pages are beginning 793 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: to do this, but the Browns, the Colts, uh, the Ravens, 794 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: the Titans. The reason why their teams that you don't 795 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: want to face is because of the element that we 796 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,040 Speaker 1: talked about. If they get the lead, if they happen 797 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: to jump out in front by two touchdowns, good luck 798 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: because it's a steady diet of run right, run left 799 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: and right and left. And with the Browns having two 800 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: guys that are big, I think Kareem hunt is once 801 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: he comes back, man, he's the top six running back 802 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: in the league. He's their second running back. I mean, why, 803 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 1: That's why I stand by my pick, although I guess 804 00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: they all have COVID now, so they miss some of 805 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: those runners this week. But how about been locking up 806 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: your guy? Why? I tell her? How about that? Is 807 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,840 Speaker 1: there is there a coincidence there? We do the Wyatt 808 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: Teller XO within twenty five hours, he got paid. There 809 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 1: you go, yeah, you got paid. They they locked them up, 810 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: And I think what you're now seeing DJ, though, is 811 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 1: how they're building because they have somebody else that was 812 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: gonna be a free agent that they have to don't 813 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: have another lineman or somebody else. I knew Teller was 814 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 1: Tonio Up. I thought that, I don't know if there's 815 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,080 Speaker 1: somebody else to know they had to do that. But 816 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: I think what you're seeing they understand exactly who they are, 817 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: and they understand what they have to have around the quarterback. 818 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: And they actually, in my estimation, they have time before 819 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: they have to pay Baker may for they don't have 820 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,320 Speaker 1: to pay him right now. But can I give you, 821 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: can I give you? Can I give you a little 822 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: food for thought on your Baker thing? Because and I 823 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: think we've better pretty much be on the same page, 824 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: like we'll pay him a fair number, but you don't 825 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: want to go crazy. So and when we can talk 826 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: about it's not really a quarterback centric team. And maybe 827 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,320 Speaker 1: that's a little bit of the difference here. But remember 828 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: the Kirk Cousins conversation when he left Washington. You can't 829 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: pay him that man, You just gotta let him walk. 830 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 1: How how's Washington look at that position since he left? 831 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: I know? And even though he might bear in the 832 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: wilderness there in the wilderness, and Kirk Cousins is a 833 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: top you know, eight to fourteen depending on the shows 834 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 1: up every day shows up. But you're right because okay, well, 835 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: they're saying that they need to pay him sooner rather 836 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: than later. See, they need to pay him now before 837 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: the cost continue to escalate. Just go ahead and bite 838 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: the bullet and pam what you have to pay him 839 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: and let everyone have outraged like how could they? But 840 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: if you're Baker, do you follow the Kirk Cousins blueprint 841 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: and say, no, I'm not taking that. I'll just you 842 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: franchise me for a couple of years and then then 843 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna force my way to the market if that's 844 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: the case, because we've seen it. If you're a B 845 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,320 Speaker 1: level quarterback and you can get to the open market, 846 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: you are going to get big time paid. Does he 847 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: want to play that though? It does you want to 848 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 1: have like the contentious nature of those things. I'm just 849 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: saying from from a negotiating standpoint, he's got some leverage. 850 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: You know. We can say it's not another back driven 851 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: team and all that, not another but you can also 852 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: look at their history and then you can look at 853 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: I think if I'm if I'm Baker's people, I think 854 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: i'd be I'd be holding up a mirror and saying, 855 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: remember what it was like here, and then look at Washington, 856 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: Look at Washington. They may have to pay him, they 857 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: have may have they may have to put him into 858 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: forty million dollar club and pay them well. But even 859 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,320 Speaker 1: but even in that DJ because when the TV deals 860 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,879 Speaker 1: kick in when also just because at the point we'll 861 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: use the Kirk Cousins, Derek Carr, Jimmy Garoppolo thing as 862 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: a point seven million dollars was like, oh my god. 863 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: And then now that's like midlevel quarterbacks. I mean kinda. 864 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's one of It's an interesting thing. But 865 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,160 Speaker 1: the best thing Baker is going for him. If they 866 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 1: keep chalking up wins and he's taking snaps, he gets 867 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 1: the credit for the wins. And I know people talk 868 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,360 Speaker 1: about quarterback wins are on the step, but they have 869 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 1: to count for something, and so he winning games. You 870 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: get very comfortable with the guy who was taking the 871 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: snap because you were there in Baltimore. Not necessarily there 872 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,879 Speaker 1: when they did it, but they tried that upgrade route 873 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: when the head trained different. They went for Elvis grback 874 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: and took them a long time to get back to 875 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: that level. So it is what it is. It's very 876 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 1: it's very interesting that happened right before I, right before 877 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: I got there. But that was that what they were 878 00:42:56,200 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: in the wilderness until Steve McNair came. You know, Yeah, 879 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: we were in the wilderness. I always always tell that 880 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: to people when they when they talk about, oh, why 881 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: would you take a quarterback over this guy? This guy 882 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: is a better player, he's got a better grade. And 883 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: I go, I'll tell you why, because I was on 884 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: a team for four with a team for four years 885 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: that had a Hall of Fame left tackle, a Hall 886 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: of Fame linebacker, a Hall of Fame safety, a Pro 887 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: Bowl tight end, and All Pro running back, um a 888 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: a potential Hall of Fame edge rusher, and sugs pretending 889 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: Perennial Pro Bowl defensive tackle and not a yea Chris 890 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: McAllister perennial Pro Bowl corner. And the only ring I 891 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: have on my finger is my wedding ring. So that's 892 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: that's why the quarterback matters. It does matter. There is 893 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: some value to having the quarterback, and even if there 894 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: are some deficiencies, you can work around the bulk of 895 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,759 Speaker 1: those deficiency if you have enough money to be able 896 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: to get the other stuff. So you have to know 897 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: exactly where you are on exactly who you are. And 898 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: I think is being honest in the assessment. Hey, he's 899 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: not a top five he is this, but we can 900 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,480 Speaker 1: maybe make him top five ish if we surround him 901 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: with the other stuff, and so it's just understanding what 902 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: they need. Yeah, it's just fascinating because you're gonna have 903 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: some people say, oh, It'since Jared Golf all over again. 904 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna pay him and regret it. And other people 905 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: are gonna say, well, or is this Kirk Cousins And 906 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna let him walk and be ruined the day 907 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: that you did that. So it's to me, the Baker 908 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: Mayfield contract is one of the more fascinating things I've 909 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: seen since we've been doing this. It's I mean, it's 910 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: it's gonna be been in it. It's gonna been in 911 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 1: to see what it looks like. And if I'm Baker, 912 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: he has to come behind Lamar Jackson because you want 913 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,640 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson get paid first before you go to the table. 914 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,240 Speaker 1: Yeah shoot that. Yeah, because because Lamar is gonna shoot 915 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: it up sky and he's throwing them all a little bit. 916 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: Another topic. It's another topic the other day. How well 917 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 1: he's playing. He's playing awesome. What we're talking about that 918 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: because we're doing the game Thursday night on Amazon again. 919 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: If you haven't checked that out, check us out on 920 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: Thursday night. Bucky Joy, Taylor, myself Twitch dot tv, slash 921 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: move the sticks. We have a great time. There's a 922 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: chat that's open during the game. We interact with you guys, 923 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: um and you don't miss the place. You see the 924 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: whole game and see our our analysis and reaction. We 925 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 1: do a lot of scouting background stuff. So if you 926 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: like the pod, you'll you'll love Thursday nights. I know 927 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: it's it's one of the most fun things we get 928 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: to do. Buck. It is a lot of fun. In 929 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,760 Speaker 1: This week's game is a pretty good one. The Ravens 930 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 1: the Dolphins should be a lot of fun. You get 931 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens Dolphins should be fun. Yeah, so you did 932 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: that right there? Yeah, all right, this has been fun. 933 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,879 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys hanging with us. Thanks to the Bill 934 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 1: for all the work he does producing this thing each 935 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: and every week. We'll catch you next time. Right here 936 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: and move the sticks.