WEBVTT - Miss Aubrey O’Day Part 2 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:15.480 Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. This is a 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:19.640 part that me and my bandmates grapple with most of them, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.479 not even my bandmates, but danity came but the three 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.760 bands from making the band that we're all created. We 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:28.440 are all in heavy conversation a lot lately. One thing, 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.160 when to the people I bounce things off from before 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:34.880 I speak on topic that topic in general, they don't. 0:00:35.040 --> 0:00:37.440 They say, what you just said? It was your talent. 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:41.159 It was you that had that. And for me, I 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:43.720 would have never done anything that I do now if 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:45.640 you would have left it up to me and my 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:51.360 knowledge and understanding of what I'm good at. He showed 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:55.320 told master manipulator and like I said, that's not always 0:00:55.360 --> 0:00:55.960 a bad thing. 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:56.840 Good way Okay. 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:02.920 He taught me I was, and then I knew what 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.199 I was. If you come to me now and say 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.440 are you a star? I would say yes. They would 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.240 say are you amazing on television? I would say yes. Okay. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:13.360 If they asked me, do you dance? 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:13.839 Yes? 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.920 Are you a great singer? Yes? And I don't pause, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:19.640 I don't, I don't feel any If they want to 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:21.800 come back at me with any commentary, I will come 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.240 right back at them with commentary, I say it bold, 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.520 with no fucking apologies. Now, with that being said, I 0:01:27.640 --> 0:01:30.160 had somewhere along the line to have learned that. And 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.280 it wasn't my mom and dad, who I don't even 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.040 have in my life, who didn't protect me or keep 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:38.800 me safe during any of the crazy things I've gone through, 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.440 and we're a part of most of it in my childhood. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.640 So I know that that if you were to, if 0:01:45.680 --> 0:01:47.520 I would have just been left up to my own 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.120 ideas of what I could be, it wouldn't. I wouldn't 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:54.120 necessarily be in a place where I could positively, with 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.080 no quiver in my voice, do everything that I just 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:01.360 did with you right there that came from that man. 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:04.680 There were some goods that I will not discredit him for. 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.520 And with puff it's so hard because he's so disliked 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:13.960 now that no one feels comfortable with any positive acknowledgment 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.880 of any part of his existence. And I have a 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:22.360 very hard time with that, And the editing on me 0:02:22.680 --> 0:02:25.720 isn't allowing for it either. And then I sit at 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.400 home and I watch the scripts that they give me 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:31.679 to read or the edits that they give me on shows, 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.919 and most of them aren't even out yet. They're still 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.959 going to be coming out all year, And I think 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:40.040 to myself and everybody champions me, and then you know, 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.560 I'll be getting botox and say to the woman I 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.440 go to, like, hey, it's actually I kind of feel 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.480 this way and that way, and she would be like, well, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.840 you can't say that, and I'd be like no. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:50.600 Regards to what. 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:58.040 In regards to I think a lot of evil behavior, demons, devils, 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.799 whatever you consider of the bad behaving human to be, 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.720 I think a lot of that is man made. I 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:10.200 think there are rare circumstances that you have very bad wiring, 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.520 and it's just as a genetic situation. I think, like 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.520 serial killers and things like that. I don't know. I 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.000 mean now we're learning even with bipolar and things like that, 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.080 that's something very traumatic had to happen in your childhood 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.600 to stick your brain into that state. So I tend 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.120 to have a lot of I have a lot of 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:35.720 care and consideration for even people that the world suggests 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:41.320 are horrific. I need more information, and I'm a big 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.920 I'm a big advocate and somebody who came forward and 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.600 let the world know this is not a this was 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.800 not a good person. This is not a safe person. 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:51.720 I wasn't willing to when Trump was like, he's a 0:03:51.760 --> 0:03:54.600 great guy, He's an amazing guy. Right, Aubrey. There's a 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:57.760 famous like little clip on Celebrity Apprentice that made its 0:03:57.800 --> 0:04:01.240 way around during the election of Trump wanting to force 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.400 me to say he's an amazing guy because it's his 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:06.000 good friend, and I wouldn't do it. And I noticed 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.120 then there was no reason to not do it. It 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.839 only would have worked out in my favor. I would 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:12.440 have been pleasing master over here, pleasing the old Master 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:14.400 and not causing any prompts for myself and not having 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.920 the hidden beard people that run your life pissing off 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.599 and because they are controlled by the money people, So 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:21.760 it would have been in my best interest to just 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:24.440 say yes to the man, and I didn't. And when 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.800 I watched the clip. I don't remember that day, but 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:28.919 when I saw the clip going around, I watched it 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.200 and realized, Wow, my integrity has just always been fucking there. 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:33.520 Is that when you went home? 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:37.400 No that at that time, that wasn't a topic that 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:44.440 would send you home, Okay, And you know on different shows, 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.919 I mean we I won't speak of any show in 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:51.080 particular because I can't, but I'm sure you've experienced this 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:54.480 and can co sign it. Some shows that you watch, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:05:00.520 some people potentially could have must make it to three episode, 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.080 six episodes or payment wise, they're paid a certain amount 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.320 that they're not going home first, or they wouldn't be 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.760 paid that amount of money. There's different ways to guys 0:05:08.800 --> 0:05:10.320 it because legally it gets. 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.320 Tricky and shows will say no, but we know. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:16.280 That yeah no doesn't mean no usually ever, Yeah. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.880 Here's the first word towards yes. That's what I always say. 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.640 Yes exactly. So so what the audience never knows is 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.479 like I would be on shows sometimes and look at 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.400 people and be like, this bitch can't even open her laptop, 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.839 how the fuck is she still here? And or at 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:32.479 this high and then I would know why later on, 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.479 when you know, I would get information from people that 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.840 don't work it as executives anymore, or because I fall 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.960 in love with the president's son and I'm in a 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.799 serious relationship where I hear different things of how things 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.360 really work or don't work, Like you know, I don't. 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:50.440 I didn't understand anything at the time, but when I 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.680 watched these clips, when I didn't understand anything. The one 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:57.719 thing that is consistent is my integrity, and so for me, 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.360 I'm really like Now, that's another one of those topics 0:06:00.360 --> 0:06:02.320 where if you ask me if I have it, I 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.200 will say yes, and if you have a response, I 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.120 will have one for you as well. Like I'm not, 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.640 I just don't budge. So I don't know. I guess 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:15.000 I wear these things that I proved in myself time 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.120 and time again. I wear them as badges of honor. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.359 And now I said, like I told you earlier and before, 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.200 you'd have to really bend my back hard. Now, if 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:26.880 you annoy me, I'll make it clear. I don't even 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.920 allow like a slight annoyance. I'll make it very clear quickly. 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:34.720 But you're so kind, you're so you're so interesting because 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.400 what I admire so much in you is you will 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.479 say it how it is and you don't let anyone 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.400 compromise your beliefs. But it's in such a genuine kind 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:47.279 way that you're likable. 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:49.800 That's because you know me in real life. On television, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.360 they edit me like. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:54.320 The problematic Yeah, right right, you're right. 0:06:54.360 --> 0:06:57.000 They can only show the part when you engage with 0:06:57.040 --> 0:07:00.000 someone and let them know about themselves. It's the integrity pece. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.640 It's just that integrity piece, and I think people that 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.599 get to know me see that quickly and then really 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.320 like me as the person, regardless of what how I'm 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.480 interpreted on these shows that really need to box you 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:14.320 into a character very quickly in order to be successful. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:18.240 Because there's no money. All the money has reduced in 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.920 every way. When that is reduced, the quality of a 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.280 production is reduced when it takes longer for anyone to 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.640 have the nerve to bring something forward. Because with all 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:29.120 the firings that are going on right now, why would 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:30.720 you want to be the one at the office to 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.280 have a good idea that might work. Before good ideas 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.160 that might work were like holy shit, let's go. Now, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:41.160 you're going to be hard pressed even if somebody is 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.840 in their cubicle with the best ideas, You're going to 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:45.960 be hard pressed to find somebody who's willing to come 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:48.320 forward and just put their ass on the line, because 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.280 if they're wrong and something doesn't work, they will be 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.040 the first to go. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.360 Or they might be, but I would always rather be 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.400 that person than not take the chance. 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:58.280 We have a little bit of a luxury given that 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.760 we we don't necessarily know what it's like to be 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.400 out there on a nine to five pushing resumes, trying 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.680 to ask somebody to let us get in a cubicle. 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.240 For those people, I feel even more sympathy toward, because 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:20.239 I just feel like I feel so suppressed right now, 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:22.360 because we are in a society where a lot of 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.280 things are happening very quickly, with all the changes that 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.320 occurred this year, and whether you're for it or not, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:32.040 it's happening at rapid speeds, and there isn't even enough 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:35.520 time to process it, let alone understand it all, because 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.960 eighteen things will happen in one day, and most people 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.640 are uninformed and they're just going on their feeling of 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:45.920 whether they like somebody or not. But there is so 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.920 many things that so many systems are transitioning, And if 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.160 you don't think that that system isn't changing our system, 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.040 you are dead wrong. Because everybody I speak to the 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.120 thoughts of what the network wants, or. 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.319 Just about entertainment, you mean in general. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:04.480 Overall, the political climate is changing the entertainment climate. When 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.120 you fire all, when you get rid of DEI and 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.480 the political world the entertainment world. Some people do that 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:14.520 as well, it affects all worlds. It affects what you 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:16.600 can sell, what you can't sell. And if you happen 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:18.880 to fall in a DEI category, which me and you 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.880 are both in that category as women, it's problematic. It 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:26.200 becomes problematic and you have to step very lightly. Just 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:28.560 the fact that I have to feel that every day 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:34.120 is like a It's horrible. And then you have to 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:37.600 think about people that are marginalized their entire life. It's 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:41.920 likely a lot and people would like probably think I'm 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:45.680 nuts for saying this, But for my most marginalized friend, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.880 it's very similar to like a you and don who 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.520 they would be mad if I suggested you are marginalized 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:53.920 in the same way, but not in the same way, 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:57.200 but the feeling of being marginalized, that feeling of never 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.720 really even being able to understand your true idea because 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.400 you're suppressed out the gate with a last name or 0:10:04.440 --> 0:10:08.720 a skin color or whatever. That feeling you can share. 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.520 Those two worlds can share that they don't understand that enough, 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.400 which is why I try to tell these people and 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.280 these people all the time, Hey, we could get together 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.080 and really do some phenomenal things if we could just 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:23.319 understand the piece that the experience isn't the same, but 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.679 the feeling. 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.280 Of the feeling, the feeling of. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.280 Trapped, it's taking everything and may not to shut you 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:32.200 down and be like no, no, no, I don't deserve any 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:34.480 special treatment because of a last name. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:36.240 Like no, no, no, no, no no, go through. 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.679 Yeah, but actually to never having been able to create 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.880 your own identity from the second you came out of 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:47.000 a womb, it's pretty crazy. It's pretty fucking crazy. That's 0:10:47.040 --> 0:10:48.760 why I still can have a heart for Dawn and 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.640 why people look at me in their lives about that. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:53.719 Well, I do, and why does But why does it 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:54.199 happen to. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.960 Some people and not others? There's last names people have 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.880 gone way further having a big last. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:06.560 Name, Well, that integrity factor is pretty big. Yeah. I 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:08.440 can't see you doing a lot of the things that 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.440 I've seen some of those other last names do to 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:12.080 move up. 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.360 There has the ability to move up, and I just can't. 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.280 I fight myself inside of ever taking that step. 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:24.480 Yeah. Yeah, Like if the assignment was forge your way 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:28.240 in through a sex tape that's highly produced by you 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:29.960 and you have control over and you can be a 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.760 huge star and become an icon, would you take it, 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.040 would you personally take it? No? 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.560 Oh, so Dean and I when we were together, and 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.839 this is in the height of Torri and Dean on Oxygen. 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.800 It was Valentine's Ay or something, and I was in 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.760 New York. He was filming a movie. Came to visit 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:52.400 me and he was like, hey, let's film ourselves having sex. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.520 We had never done it before, you know, married for 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:55.840 years and we only had. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:58.560 Do you know, have plenty of videos? 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:00.720 I know, look at me like we had never It's funny. 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:02.160 You can watch it back and fuck to it. It's 0:12:02.160 --> 0:12:05.480 even I've never even watched it back. If I say 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.040 anything I don't like, I didn't delete it immediately. Never 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:12.560 never let me see that used to get kissed. You like, no, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:15.480 you can use this five seconds to masturbate too. When 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:16.480 I'm gone, that's it, I'll go. 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.600 Wow, oh yeah, god, I love that. Anyway, we never 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:23.440 locked our shit up. We trusted everybody. He had an 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.560 hour computer at home, and a friend he thought was 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.520 a friend stayed at our house. Well, we took the 0:12:27.600 --> 0:12:32.240 kids to Hawaii. Anyway, took the computer and tried to 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.080 sell it to Vivid Video, and they actually contacted us 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:38.320 and said we want to let you know. We didn't 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:41.199 accept it, and I'm like, why. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.000 Yeah, that's not I don't know that, that's not the normal. 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.760 That's I don't know that. I don't know. They have 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.880 to know what year it was and what else. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.520 They were like with your permitted you know, if you 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:52.839 guys want to we'll engage. And do you guys want 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.800 to sell it? Yes, but we want to let you know. 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.360 So we had to get a restraining order this guy, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.880 we got the we got all of it back and everything, 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.559 and yeah, they said, you know. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.920 Have you ever it's going to be it's going to 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:07.600 be a dark question. Can I want you to think 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:10.440 very hard about it and forget that anyone's looking. Have 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.199 you ever had a thought where you wished I could 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.840 have released it? It's not like you went out and 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.720 actively did it and was like as bad as some 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.240 of these other girls are. Of course, do you ever 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.880 have just a tiny little thought of it could have? 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.760 Of course we helped. 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.040 Yeah, yeah, I don't believe in the breads. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:29.400 That's the part that is. 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:30.080 I'm bummed. 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:31.840 I said no to Playboy, and now at fifty one, 0:13:31.920 --> 0:13:34.160 I wish I'd been on the cover of fucking playboy. 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.360 Like, Yeah, everyone told me no, and I did it, 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.080 and I'm so happy I did because it's such an 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.240 iconic thing. And now it doesn't even exist anymore. 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.520 I know, Yeah, I was doing it with my husband 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.600 and we were together. Yeah, I should have let that 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:51.880 sex tape go out. 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:59.520 In all worlds, the women are never really respected and 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.600 and what's crazy is the women. Then it's like female 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.200 on female crime. When I walk into big rooms that 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:11.600 can offer me opportunities and it's men, I usually am 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.280 much more comfortable than if there's a woman in the room, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:19.000 because women will fucking tear apart women way faster than 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:21.280 a man will. And at least if it's all men, I, 0:14:21.360 --> 0:14:25.720 as a female, conditioned and socialized by this world, I 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.560 know what I need to do if I send certain behaviors, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.880 if we got a little freakadique in the room, I 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.520 know a little cleavage and whatever is necessary, how I 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:36.920 can move through it With women, especially women that get 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:41.560 to levels that high they are. I know a few 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.120 that are incredible, but it's few and far between. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.080 I mean, I think it's wide known. I've been fucked 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:51.080 over by men, obviously, but it's the women in my life. 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:52.200 The women hurt more than that. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:57.320 Fucked me over way more because I don't know. We're 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:00.520 as conditioned as we are to understand and what we 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.280 need to do or not do when we're dealing with 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.800 men with women. Were conditioned as well to think, you know, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:07.680 women are the first support women. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:09.920 You know, Oh, I'm not conditioned to think that. I 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.560 think they're all. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:13.320 Everything out there, women in power. 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:16.040 We support each other, the fun that maybe the first 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:17.400 to take you. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:21.360 Down and take such Maybe this is just our entertainment perspective, 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.360 but I honestly think it's across the board. But we 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.840 can speak to just our perspective. It's bad out here 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.920 are the women on women And I've never I always 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.640 bring up the women up until I had a band 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:32.320 member come out of danity Kane and come with me 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:35.000 into another band. Mit, like, not even midway a little 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:36.560 bit into it. She turned to me and she's like, man, 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.840 I had you all wrong in the this year's multi 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:42.280 year span of this other group. Every time you gave 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.040 us outfits or this or that, I thought you were 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.480 manipulating something in your favor. But really you just want 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.000 everybody that's next to you to look better or as 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.200 good as you. You really have a thing about that. 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.720 When I came in sneakers that weren't a famous brand 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.280 and we were going out to a pictured event, you'd change. 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.000 I would give her my things. And maybe that's an 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.840 only child thing as well well. But I want everybody 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.480 around me to be looking their best and feeling their best. 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:07.200 I don't want anyone to be in a bad space 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.040 around me. But that is not the common thought amongst women. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.760 It's so insane the way that we work against each other. 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.040 And this is the craziest statistic that I think proves this. 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:18.600 We have more women than men in this society and 0:16:18.640 --> 0:16:22.880 we've never seen a female president ever, and there's. 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:24.640 Been because we keep canceling each other out. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:28.960 We're canceling each other out more than even the men 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:34.520 that don't like us are. It's insane and I don't 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.280 know why or what. I definitely know that there's a 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.680 certain way that they expect you to behave as a woman, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:43.320 because I am definitely the antithesis of that. And every 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:46.400 person that's been offended by the antithesis goes back to 0:16:46.440 --> 0:16:48.840 my manager and lets him know that. And every time 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.320 he comes to me to scold me, I'm like tell 0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.640 these people ahead of time that I'm a professional, that 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.520 I expect everyone around me to be a professional, that 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.720 I don't cut corners, and if I'm not cutting corners, 0:16:59.720 --> 0:17:01.800 I don't don't want anyone around me to cut corners. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.720 And if they're going to cut corners, tell them to 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.960 do it a little less obviously, because obvious is going 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.600 to create reaction. So tell them to go do their 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:12.320 sloppy producing in a different room that I don't have 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.240 an earshot of, Like, come on, why can't we all 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.919 just enter our jobs and do them. Well, It's just 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.080 that that is not the assignment anymore, which is why 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.520 when we are discussing other people that are very obnoxious 0:17:24.520 --> 0:17:25.880 on sets that I really want to. 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.680 Ask you, why do the mean girl? Why do they 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:31.760 keep working? And why do they even keep getting ahead? 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:34.480 They're not even fascinating. I did so many shows last 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.800 year when I tell you, I was so underwhelmed by 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:40.080 the biggest people that people like. What I see is 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.520 they're very good at creating narratives for TMZ. Every day 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:46.880 they stay in the news with drama, and so that 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.679 creates your news. It's hard, though, because even TMZ is struggling, 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.199 like news cycles are different. Now nobody goes to that 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.840 one source anymore. There's way too many sources with how 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:01.640 wide and that technology is becoming. 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:08.840 So the females that treat people I find self deprecating working. 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:17.200 Why I think because well, for me, if I see 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:20.080 something inappropriate going on on a production that I'm on, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.000 I'm going to notify someone. Because when there were a 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:26.520 lot of inappropriate things that occurred on sets that I 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.800 was on when I was younger, and I didn't know 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.840 that they were inappropriate, I normalized them and it was 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:35.359 to a lot of people's detriment. So now that I 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.360 know better, since I knew better, I report I will 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.680 report it. They don't like you when you do that. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.359 I think those people are so busy bossing people around 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.520 and telling them to get their specific water or their 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.280 specific coffee, or talking so fucking much about themselves that 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.680 they don't notice everyone in the room is like exhausted 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.200 or bossing people around and not even noticing that, like 0:18:56.359 --> 0:18:58.440 they didn't seem to be having a good day already, 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.360 and you kind of probably made it worse. Not even 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:02.560 you don't even know their name. Probably I know the 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.080 names of everybody that I'm on set with and normally 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.840 years later, I'm still friends with pas, with people that 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:11.960 are just running runners or any like. I make friends 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:14.600 with everybody, and not because I need to for some benefit, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:16.760 because I'm going to be with them for over a 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:18.920 month or a month at least, and I want to 0:19:18.960 --> 0:19:20.840 get to know everybody because we're all going to be 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.200 living this life together. That is not the mentality of 0:19:24.240 --> 0:19:28.240 most reality stars nowadays. And the ones that I find 0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:31.760 do really well are the most nasty on these sets. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.840 Like I think about it, in my world, I never 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:35.840 get to walk away from abrio day because that's why 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.800 I play on TV too. You play a character, so 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:40.360 maybe you can walk away from it, but I don't 0:19:40.359 --> 0:19:42.800 think you can if you're a great actor, because actors 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.399 throw themselves into their characters. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.840 Started Donna at sixteen, it was probably a lot of 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:53.000 you was more me than Donna. So because so when 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.800 you talk about David and Donna being cheated on, like 0:19:56.119 --> 0:19:58.600 my whole life, I thought, that's just what happens, Like 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:00.520 women get cheated on, you just go on. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:04.520