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Hey, this is Lyle again. Just before we start, 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:53.720 I want to say that normally in previous podcasts between callers, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.200 I have the little that little voice that goes call 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:58.880 from then and then it's got a little beving sound. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.960 And sometimes you'll hear that on this podcast and sometimes 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.680 you won't. And it'll probably be like that on podcasts 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.400 moving forward until I figure out a different way to 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.560 do transitions. But yeah, I just want to let you 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:09.960 guys know that. 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:13.080 All right, Thanks, Hello, there we get go. Hey, how 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:18.199 they're going, how are you, I'm great, thanks for taking 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:25.319 my call anytime. So I'm calling because I got myself 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:27.199 in a little bit of a predicament with a friend 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:31.399 of mine and I wanted your advice as to how 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:35.320 I should handle it. So if he's just moved to 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:39.560 a new house. His house burned down last year in 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:44.360 a fire, and they rebuilt a house, and so you know, 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.400 it's obviously been a long time coming. So he wanted 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:49.920 to have a big housewarming party. 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:51.200 So he did. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:56.680 And it's this big, immaculate, too story house and it's 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:00.880 got a big pool in the back, really decked out, 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:04.520 so it's a fun party. I go and everyone's swimming 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:09.400 and he's barbecuing and anyway, so long story shore, I 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.520 have to go to the bathroom, so I go, I 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.880 tell myself off, and I wait for the downstairs bathroom 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:21.040 to be unoccupied. I wait and I wait, and someone's 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:24.040 taken a long time. I have to go really bad, 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:28.120 and it's not number one to be impolite about it. 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:32.440 So I decide to take matters in my own hands, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:34.560 and I'm like, I got to find a bathroom. I 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.160 go upstairs to the part of the house that no 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:42.120 one's really supposed to go, but it's an emergency. So 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:48.720 I run and find the bathroom and go, and then 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.120 I go to flush, and I realized that this bathroom 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.240 isn't even like hooked up plumbing wise, like the water 0:02:56.400 --> 0:02:58.600 isn't hooked up. There's a toilet there, there's a sink there, 0:02:58.919 --> 0:03:03.760 but nothing's running, and I can't flush, and it's something 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:10.000 that you probably you know, would like to flush. And 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:11.880 so I panic. I don't know what to do, and 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:15.919 there's nothing I can do. So I just abandoned ship. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:18.680 I look both ways when I leave, and I no 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:21.480 one saw me, and I run downstairs and I rejoined 0:03:21.520 --> 0:03:26.280 the party. Anyways, skip ahead. They figure out about it, 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.440 and there they ask me like. 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.000 Oh you hear about what happened? 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:30.760 Was that you and I? 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.040 I denied it, but turns out they caught me on 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:40.400 the ring camera upstairs, where like they're like they have 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.520 a baby, and they caught me on camera. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.360 So I'm a little hosed now. 0:03:50.640 --> 0:03:55.760 And let me ask you sort of important question. When 0:03:55.920 --> 0:04:00.920 first interrogated about whether or not it was you that 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:06.200 left a turd in their bathroom, did you lie? 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:08.720 Yes? 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.520 Yeah, no, I ball face flied to him. And you 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:13.080 already knew. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.839 And how did you feel once the evidence was presented? 0:04:22.000 --> 0:04:27.679 No, I ashamed? Ashamed? I mean I I turned red 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:31.920 and he was very like, yeah, dude, And I could 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:34.440 tell how disappointed he was that I didn't come clean. 0:04:34.880 --> 0:04:39.840 Uh really bummed, And uh I didn't. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:41.880 I didn't think that. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:45.080 You know, if that happened to me, I probably brushed 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.480 it under the rug and like I wouldn't embarrass someone 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:51.680 and like confront them, and I felt so I when confronted, 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:54.160 I just panicked. I didn't I didn't expect it. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:00.680 And were they upset with you? How do you feel 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:01.240 like they felt? 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.040 Yeah, they're pretty upset with me because apparently they had 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:09.479 to like call a plumber and they thought I should 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.120 have like, you know, offered to pay for it. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:12.800 You know. 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.279 Yeah, yeah, No, I ultimately did. I and I worked 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:21.240 over like it was like one hundred bucks or something. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:25.840 Really it's only one hundred bucks to unclog a toilet. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.360 That actually seems kind of high. 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.840 Yeah, I mean, like it wasn't necessarily clogged. It was 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:37.640 it was that they had, you know, remove what was 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:38.560 in there. 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.880 And you know, if you know. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:45.920 What I mean, you're telling me there's a guy or 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:50.239 a girl or a company that you can just pay 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:52.680 one hundred dollars to. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:55.320 Do? 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.680 You think if you do, you think the same the 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.680 same company. Like, if you just took a ship in 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.479 the middle of your floor, could you call them and 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.880 for one hundred dollars they would they would just take 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.600 it and clean it up? Well, do you think they 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:09.480 would only do it it's. 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:09.960 On a toilet? 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:13.400 Yeah. 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.720 Say what you want about capitalists, you know America or 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.640 you know what Western nations, But you could pay someone 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.479 a sum of money to do pretty much anything. 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:32.440 Do you have any further plans on top of reimbursing 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:38.760 them for the cleanup fees to make it up to them. 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:43.200 I feel like I should just let the I should 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:46.479 just like drift away, you know, like slowly stop seeing 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.760 them as a friend, just like they I wasn't that 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.000 close for them to begin with. And this seems like 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.839 I gotta know how I can recover. You guys are 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.640 paying for it, and you know, yeah, yeah, I I 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.720 a couple of other friends, all. 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.880 Right, So some of that bad you can afford to lose. 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:07.040 A few friends. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.280 Can't cut the fat. 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:12.840 Thank yous much for sharing. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:20.360 No Matt below. 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:21.920 Geck Matt, it's you and me. 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:22.280 Dude. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.080 Look, fuck, I know everyone's always like, oh, there's all 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:27.840 these people. Look forget about the people watching, Matt. It's 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.400 all about it's about nothing like you know, we got 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.240 to embrace that, Matt Man. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:36.240 I'm alone in my dorm right now. It's just doing me. 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.040 We're just talking, all right. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.800 Yeah, what's all right? You're alone in your dorm. That's 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:45.320 that's there's something there, there's something there. Why you know, 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:46.600 tell me. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:47.520 I found you. 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:52.000 I was at the gym at my school and I 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:56.680 get recommended your podcast. I'm just in love with what 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.640 you're doing, and I was wondering if you had any 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:00.440 question for me. 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:07.080 You have a lot of questions for you. Are you 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.280 alone in your dorm room? How does that make you feel? 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:12.200 Do you wish you were somewhere else? Or do you 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.520 enjoy where you are right now? 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:21.440 Well, well, I'm definitely introverted, so I like to have 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:26.320 my alone time. Yeah, you know so, Yeah, I'm not 0:08:26.360 --> 0:08:29.600 too upset at the moment, just relaxing. 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.760 Okay, what what do you study in school? 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:36.480 Engineering? 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:40.360 Engineering? Everyone studies engineering these days. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:48.040 Yeah, it's uh, industrial engineering, so not as much involved 0:08:48.040 --> 0:08:51.079 with the physics and all that more about math and 0:08:51.400 --> 0:09:00.200 statistics and optimizing thinks sounds well, philosophy comedy podcast is 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:02.680 just what I needed to, you know, balance out everything? 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.559 Cool? Cool? Have you or have you been doing too 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:09.360 many even crunching too many numbers? Is it getting to you? 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:11.440 It is? 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:15.839 But you know it's only the third week of the semester. 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.360 So so so bittering? Is it's gonna get worse? 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:26.839 Yeah? You know, I'm getting into my uh, into my routine. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:27.280 You know. 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:35.840 Okay you freshman, No, I'm a junior. Okay, okay, so 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:38.120 you so you've already you're you're getting into your team, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:39.880 but you already sort of have had a routine for 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:40.960 at least a few years. 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:46.120 Yeah, but it's it's in person, you know. So I 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.559 can't like, you know, I have to not wear underwear 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.920 to class only you know, or I have to care 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.880 about how I present myself because I'm not just on 0:09:57.960 --> 0:09:59.280 a zoom call with no camera. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:09:59.600 You know? 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:04.520 Do you dress? Do you dress nice? 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.880 I just dressed to be confident in myself. I don't, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:12.800 I don't know, I don't. I'm not buying it crazy 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:13.720 clothes or anything. 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:14.920 What are you? What are you wearing? 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:15.120 Right? 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:20.680 Now I'm wearing basketball shorts and a T shirt. That's 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:21.240 what I've been. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.400 Wearing for two years. 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.120 That's a quarantine outfit. 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:25.280 I think. 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:32.280 Let me ask you how long? What's the longest you've 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:36.240 you've worn an article of clothing consecutively without washing it? 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:44.920 God damn, Probably be honest with me, Okay, are you 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.680 an article of clothing? Because you can get like three 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:48.199 or four. 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.640 Wears out of a pair of jeans, three or four, 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:59.400 I mean, yeah, I am Oh, no, okay, probably I 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:00.959 woar a shirt for four days straight. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:02.600 That's probably it. 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:03.520 Nice? 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:05.199 Nice, But I felt like a. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:05.760 Piece of shit. 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:07.760 So I haven't done that again. 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.160 No, Well, look, I mean, if it makes you feel 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.760 any better, I've gone through like I've. I mean I've 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.840 I'm not just saying this as a joke. I've worn 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:23.400 the same shirt and pant combination for like weeks. Possibly 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.920 there have been times in my life in which I've 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.640 just woke up and put the same pair of the 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.079 same shirt and the same path. It's sometimes the same 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.120 underwear too. I wasn't gonna make. 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.959 You're showering, but you clean yourself, but you decide, you know, 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.120 I want to put on this stuff that reminds me 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.240 of when I wasn't clean. 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:48.719 It's more just like, you know, I think what it 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:52.720 is for me at least, is that there's so many 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.280 things and you know, I'm gonna get people, you know, 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.320 I get I get hate on this all the time, 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:00.800 but it's I think it's just how I feel. There's 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:05.240 so many things in life that demand of you and 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:07.760 I can't be bothered to do them. They you know, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:12.559 like eating food, brushing your teeth twice a day. 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:13.079 I do it. 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.480 I brush my teeth twice a day. Sometimes I don't 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:17.880 do it at night, but I do it at least 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:18.439 every morning. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:22.760 I think the entire population can relate to that. 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:28.480 I don't know, taking showers, you have to make your bed, 0:12:28.559 --> 0:12:31.520 you gotta do the just it's just too demand. It's 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.280 too demanding to like there's like there's like this standard 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:41.040 of a correct way to exist, and it's it's just 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.079 too much effort to meet the standard, so I just 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.680 break so instead it's a life hack. You just bring 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.679 your standard of living way down. 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.400 And No, to be honest, I think I'm a I'm 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:59.280 a slave to that mindset, Like I'm always thinking like, oh, 0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:05.800 what are people gonna think? Like, you know, I've yet 0:13:05.880 --> 0:13:10.400 to just you know, let it go and just wear 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:11.240 that shirt again. 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:11.920 You know. 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.560 Interesting you say you're a slaved in that mindset, because 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.800 you know, it's a it's a powerful mindset. I had 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:23.000 this moment when I went off to college. You know, 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:24.839 when I was in high school, my mom, you know, 0:13:24.960 --> 0:13:30.520 had done my laundry and she had always like I 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.959 had like a black sox and white sox, and you know, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:38.199 my mom would like take the socks and like, you know, 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.920 pair the white sox with the black sox. And I 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.160 was in you know, my dorm, and I was doing 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.000 my laundry and I was putting away my socks, and 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.280 I was and I just started mixing the white sox 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.120 and the black socks, and I felt like, I don't know, 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.840 I felt like I was doing something wrong. But then 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:57.160 I kind of realized, like, wait a minute, the idea 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:58.959 that I have to pair the black socks with the 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.480 white sox is illusion. I get to decide what matters 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.520 to me in this life, and this is not something 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:06.199 that does. 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:14.360 Absolutely. That's that's you know, I'm waiting to have that breakthrough. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:16.199 I have not had that yet. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:18.880 It'll happen for you it'll happen for you. I believe 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:19.040 in you. 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.680 Well, thanks for talking, Grek, always question. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.120 It's a pleasure, of course, pleasure talking to you too. 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:28.280 Man. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:29.520 You have a good rest of the night and you're dark. 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:31.160 You can. 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:34.680 All from Emily. 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:36.880 Emily. 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:40.440 Hello, what's up? 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:40.800 Emily? 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:42.840 Oh my god? 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:43.360 What's up? 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:43.720 Grek? 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.840 You know I'm chilling in this outer space? How are you? 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.320 I'm doing good. 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.200 I'm doing good. I cannot complain. I do not think 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.520 this would happen. I'm not gonna lie. 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.480 We spoke already, din Away, Emily, No, we did not. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.040 I trying in Wednesday and I cannot get through a dude. 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:08.640 Like at all. This is the first time we're talking. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:11.080 Yes, it is sick. 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.360 Yeah, there's someone I'll be honest with you. Somebody called 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:19.520 in it's like a week ago. Who has your exact 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.800 same accent, and I thought. 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:23.880 That was you. 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:24.920 No. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:29.360 I mean I'm from the South, so I mean it's 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:32.720 kind of country, but it's not okay. 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.920 Would you would you consider yourself a country person? 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:38.360 Absolutely not. 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:42.200 I hate I hate it. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:44.520 You hate the South. 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:46.760 I don't hate the South. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:47.640 I just. 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.120 I don't like the mindset that a lot of people 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:53.080 have down here. 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.360 Sure. Yeah, well I would describe that mindset. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:15:58.520 Well. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:04.800 So I live in a smaller town, and the small 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:10.680 town mentality is really bad here, Like even with COVID. 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:13.640 A lot of people think it's a hope, and I 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:17.720 think it's a joke or you know. And I work 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:19.840 in a doctor's office, so I see it all the 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:24.360 time and I tell people, I'm like, listen, it's not 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.120 a joke. It's not a joke at all, and they 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.520 just they just think it's Oh, I don't have to 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.640 wear a mask. I'm fine, And I hate it. 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:33.760 I hate it so much. 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.360 Have you ever thought about leaving the South and going 0:16:37.480 --> 0:16:38.240 to a new place? 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:40.040 Well, I mean. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.760 I have, but. 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:48.480 I have, like all my family is here, sure, and 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.320 they live about like an hour away from me. So 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:58.320 it's kind of it's more of I'm here because I 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.720 have family, and I'm very close to my family. 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.840 That's good. Who I mean, who in your family do 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:07.240 you like? 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:10.359 Well? 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.280 I like my mom, cool, I did like my dad, 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:17.600 but he passed away last month, so that's kind of 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.240 that thugs, but I was close to him. Yeah, he 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.239 passed from COVID. But like that's another thing that I get, 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:26.760 like really round up about it. 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:30.199 So, I mean, I like my. 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:32.560 Parents, I like my siblings. 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:35.160 Close. 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:40.320 It's just we just have that family dynamic where who 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.720 are just close. I'm not really close to any of 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:46.080 my other family, but more of the intimate, intimate family 0:17:46.280 --> 0:17:48.240 is I hold it close. 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:48.560 To my heart. 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:53.720 I personally, I've always felt as though the extended family 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:55.639 is overrated. 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:57.960 You know, it is it is. 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.200 I'm not gonna lie. I I agree with you, Greg. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.680 You got your mom, you got your you got your parents, 0:18:05.320 --> 0:18:09.560 you got your siblings. You know, keep keep keep the 0:18:09.640 --> 0:18:12.200 circle tight exactly. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:13.760 Because at the end of the day, I have a 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.600 lot more friends doct to their family than my actual family. 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.919 So it's you learn. The older you get, the more 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:21.879 I realize that family sucks. 0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:27.960 Yeah I used to. I've never liked I never liked 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:32.280 the convention that like you have to you have to 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:36.240 Why do I either, you like, have to love your 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:40.560 extended family? Yeah, you know, I mean it's kind of weird, right, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.080 Like you know, like I like, for example, you know, 0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:47.800 I see my grandma maybe once a year, you know, 0:18:48.680 --> 0:18:51.360 on the holidays. I'm supposed to love her. I don't 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.760 have that. Yeah, yeah, well I don't even I don't 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:59.040 I barely know the woman, you know exactly. 0:18:59.160 --> 0:18:59.760 I have like. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:05.520 Cousins and aunts and uncles that I see maybe once 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.800 every couple of years, and I'm. 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.440 Like, oh, then I love you, and I'm like, it's cool. 0:19:10.119 --> 0:19:12.719 I don't really love you. I don't have a relationship, 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.119 you know. But I think from being from the South, 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:22.760 it's a mindset where everybody is family. 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:27.000 And they're just like, no, it's not Yeah, dude, I 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.800 love that keeper. Yeah dude, you don't. You don't have 0:19:30.080 --> 0:19:33.240 I don't like these these mindsets. This goes back with 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:40.560 the socks thing. You know, these ideas of societal norms. 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.240 You know, you have to love your grandparents, you have 0:19:43.400 --> 0:19:46.080 to match your socks. You don't have to do anything. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:48.480 That's not thing I get made fun of because I 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:52.480 wear Mitch Max Stalk every day. I don't care, Like, 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:54.399 what's the point. Nobody's want to see my socks and 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.200 my shoes. I'm not taking my shoes off. And she's like, hey, look, 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.080 I'm wearing matching socks. I don't careful wearing a Christmas 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.160 sock and and a Haioween socks. What does it sucking matter? 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:05.600 It doesn't. 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.040 You're living your life the right way, Emily. 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:08.760 I know. 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:11.840 I just go through life like it is what it is, dude. 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:13.440 I'm just living well. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:14.520 Thank you so much for calling. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:14.840 Dude. 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:16.680 You're welcome, gig. 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.520 You have a great evening, Dude. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.560 I'll fucking try. Thank you, Emily. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:26.600 All right, by dude, Emily, Hello. 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.000 How many people are you with? 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:33.320 Four people? 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:35.520 What's your relationship to them? 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:43.840 My wife is here, my best friend that I've known 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:51.560 for fifteen years, easily, and his wife's here. I was 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.760 just curious should we have an orgy? 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.879 Should you have an orgy? Repeat? The people that are 0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:02.280 here again? 0:21:06.359 --> 0:21:10.320 My wife that I've known for fifteen years, my best 0:21:10.359 --> 0:21:16.440 friend that I've known for fifteen years, yeah, like quick, 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:23.440 eighteen years, yourself and his wife that he's been with 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:31.439 for six years, six years? Okay? You we are drinking heavily, okay? 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.640 And should we have an orgy? 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:41.240 So it's you, your wife, your friend, your best friend, 0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:44.720 and your best friend's wife. Who's who's the fourth person? 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:46.920 Or is it four people total? Including you? 0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:50.359 It's four people including me. 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.320 Have you guys ever had an orgy before? 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:56.080 We have? 0:21:56.200 --> 0:22:07.320 Not? Let me talk to your wife? Oh hi, hi, 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.159 what do you think about what? 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:14.480 So? 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.399 Your your husband wants to have an orgy? 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:18.040 What do you? 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:18.399 What do you? 0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:19.440 What is your opinion on this? 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.959 I mean I think I was the instigator, You were 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:25.439 the interest to. 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:33.080 Get Okay, so it was your idea? Yeah, okay, Now 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.840 what is it about having an orgy that is appealing 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:36.359 to you right now? 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:45.360 I don't know. He's the only guy I haven't remem. 0:22:45.560 --> 0:22:49.040 So your husband is the only guy you've ever been with? 0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:51.280 Yeah? 0:22:54.160 --> 0:23:01.160 Are you interested in being with with both? How close 0:23:01.200 --> 0:23:07.840 are you with with your husband's friend and his wife? Yeah? 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:14.320 How close are you? How are you now? How good 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:18.280 and how close are you with? 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:19.440 Oh? 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:21.879 We're we're really close. We just never see each other. 0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:23.000 M hmm. 0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:25.879 Okay, So so this this is sort of a fleeting 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:32.960 opportunity because of how rare it is that you've see Yeah, okay, 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:35.480 let me talk to your husband's friend. 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:39.920 How much. 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:42.200 You're on? 0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:44.880 Hello, I'm the friend. 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:48.560 How are you? What were you feeling about the sort 0:23:48.560 --> 0:23:51.040 of gauging the temperature of the room here before I 0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.280 I sort of give you know my thoughts? 0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:54.800 What? 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:55.080 What? 0:23:55.200 --> 0:23:56.440 How are you? How are you? How are you feeling 0:23:56.440 --> 0:24:01.520 about the the prospect of have sex with not only 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.360 your wife but your friend's wife, and and also your 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:11.639 your friend, uh. 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:16.200 I don't know. 0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.720 Okay, obviously encounter here. 0:24:20.840 --> 0:24:22.680 Listen, talk what's what's your name? What's your name? 0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:25.120 Elliott? 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:29.280 Elliott? Talk me through your thought process of the pros 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.520 and the cons and and you know, I can tell that, 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:34.000 you know, I can tell that. 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.480 I seem no pros or cons I see, I say, 0:24:38.520 --> 0:24:41.879 see pros a okay, my benefit. 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:44.680 Okay, okay, you only se pros of your benefit. But 0:24:44.840 --> 0:24:47.600 but yet you you remain unsure or is that not 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:48.000 the case? 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:55.720 His wife had made me unsure about this? 0:24:58.000 --> 0:25:00.399 Okay? Why why is his wife making you unsure? 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:03.480 Because he thinks it's going to destroy me and his friendship. 0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:06.000 And I already told her, which we're not bros. But 0:25:06.080 --> 0:25:08.720 I did say it broke before host, okay. And he's 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.679 the one that's really excited on there. 0:25:12.520 --> 0:25:15.960 So I'm I'm surely curious if your what's your friend's name? 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:18.600 David? 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.919 So if David is, and David, by the way, seems 0:25:23.040 --> 0:25:24.600 I know that it wasn't even his idea, but he 0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:28.040 seems easily the most excited about this. If he believes 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:31.600 if he's so excited about it, what then what what 0:25:31.800 --> 0:25:33.840 makes you believe that it will ruin your friendship. 0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:36.119 It's not. 0:25:36.480 --> 0:25:38.359 It's not that it's his wife thinks it's going to 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:39.560 ruin me and his friendship. 0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:42.960 Oh okay, so his wife thinks it's good. But it 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:43.719 was her idea. 0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:48.760 No, it wasn't her idea, but she was down when 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:49.440 he mentioned it. 0:25:50.320 --> 0:25:51.680 She told me that it was her idea and that 0:25:51.760 --> 0:25:53.280 she is that he joked. 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:56.159 Someone. 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:03.160 Let me tie, Let me talk to your wife. Your 0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:11.440 wife name, her name is Ella, bud Ella. You hear me, yeah, 0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:12.360 I can hear you. What's your name? 0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:17.160 Tabby, Gabby, Tabitha. 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:19.720 I thought your name was Ella, and it was like 0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:21.600 Elliot and Ella, and I was going to say that 0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.800 that's a weird Elliot. 0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:26.480 That'd be weird if I if I, if I got 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.760 with a guy whose name was like mine, that would. 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:30.399 Just cause more problems and solutions. 0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:34.400 Mm hmm. Okay, So Gabby, you said your. 0:26:34.400 --> 0:26:34.720 Name was. 0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:44.600 No, not Gabby, Tabby like a cat tea isn't tom Abby. 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:50.720 I'm I'm gonna present sort of all the information that 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:53.639 I've sort of gathered and see what your what your 0:26:53.680 --> 0:26:58.480 thoughts on. Apparently the situation is that and this is 0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:00.840 just for what I've been telling I'm hearing conflict stories. Now, 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:08.920 Apparently David's wife instigated the idea of an orgy, and 0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:19.000 this excited David, and Elliott's is also interested in the idea, 0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:23.520 but is possibly slightly worried that it will have some 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:27.880 sort of effect on his and David's friendship. And I'm 0:27:28.720 --> 0:27:30.919 sort of curious what your thoughts. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:31.040 Are on that. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:34.159 All right, So let me give you a little bit 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:35.120 of background here, Bud. 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:36.359 Sure, So. 0:27:38.000 --> 0:27:40.639 These three all know each other, they all grew up together. 0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:42.680 I did not grow up with these people. 0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.920 This is my first time meeting David and his wife. 0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:52.200 We came out for vacations. I've never met these people. 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:57.920 Wonderful people, glorious people. I consider them family by now, how. 0:27:58.160 --> 0:27:59.600 I've never met any of these people before. 0:27:59.680 --> 0:28:03.000 First, I'm nope, nope, just Elliott. 0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:04.080 Continue. 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.640 So I've never met a never met and I've talked 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.199 to them on the phone, but I've never met them 0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.080 in person. We lived very far away from each other, 0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:12.960 and we took vacation to come out and see them. 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:13.879 Got it. 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:17.680 But uh, this is the first time hearing about this 0:28:17.960 --> 0:28:21.359 orgy idea. I didn't realize that this was an option. 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:26.320 I didn't realize that this was something to be brought up. 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:28.879 So I'm blindsided just as much as you are. 0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:29.280 Friends. 0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.000 So and so you're just hearing it out from me. 0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:39.640 Well I'm hearing it from the room. 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.200 From the room, okay. And and you know, I know 0:28:43.280 --> 0:28:46.800 that you're blind sided, possibly experiencing some maybe level of 0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:51.280 of shock, not knowing that this this this was an option. 0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:54.960 And I don't know if you've had the time to 0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.600 to think about it more in depth, but yeah, to 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:01.920 process and and and if you have, I don't know 0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:04.080 if you have, because because because it is still a 0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.640 fresh idea. What what what are your thoughts and feelings? 0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.440 I mean, well, obviously also I worry about the impact 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.800 that's going to have on our friendships. However, that being said, 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.280 we don't this is the first time I'm meeting them. 0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:22.320 We might not see them for another year, so like, 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.520 what's the worst that can happen? Also, though we have 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.600 never dabbled in this territory, my husband and I, so 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:36.320 I don't even know how to go about this. So 0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.200 maybe if you have some insight on how you instigate 0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:45.920 an orgy, like things you can say, candles to light, 0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:48.520 maybe certain music that set the mood to put people's 0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:49.240 minds at ease. 0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:52.400 Well, of course, Look, I mean, here's the thing, here's 0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.920 here's here's my here's my genuine thoughts. Is all all 0:29:56.000 --> 0:30:00.200 four of you, all four alcohol from all four of you. 0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.760 From what I've gathered over the course of my conversation 0:30:04.880 --> 0:30:08.640 with all of you, seem like very open minded people, 0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:14.480 very open people. This this conversation is happening, you know, 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:19.160 in plain view, it's happening very openly, and everyone seems 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:22.600 to be on board. And I think, look, that's the 0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.360 most important thing is that everyone's on board. Everyone's committed 0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:32.320 to the idea obvious. And once, once, once that's established, 0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:39.240 once any sort of possible issues are brought to the 0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:44.280 table and resolved, I mean, you guys can just sort 0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:46.320 of go wild and start fucking and sucking each other. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:48.680 All right. 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:54.400 Let me ask you, though, in your personal life, have 0:30:54.600 --> 0:31:00.480 you ever had a multiple partner experience? I can ask 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.280 him questions. I'm asking him for his advice. I want 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:04.880 to know if he has any background on. 0:31:05.000 --> 0:31:06.160 The advice he's giving. 0:31:07.000 --> 0:31:07.840 I'm not being agreed. 0:31:09.960 --> 0:31:12.680 Well, how do you how do you feel right now? 0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:13.520 What is the room? 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:13.720 You know? 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:21.440 Actually back to date, Fine, yo. 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.120 All right, So, David, after having discussed it with with 0:31:26.360 --> 0:31:33.120 every party involved, I mean everyone, everyone seems on board. 0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.600 I think you're definitely on board. Your wife instigated the idea, 0:31:36.640 --> 0:31:40.960 so I assume she's on board. Elliott seems on board. 0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:44.200 Cabby was it Tabby or Cabby? 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:47.160 Cabby with a T. 0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.680 Cabby seems kind of down. I mean, I would confirm 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:58.440 it with everyone first, but I mean, look, here's the 0:31:58.560 --> 0:32:00.480 here's the truth of the matter. I'm not involved. 0:32:00.720 --> 0:32:05.560 Have you ever done it? I know you're not involved, 0:32:05.600 --> 0:32:07.480 but have you ever done something like this? 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:09.680 What did you say? 0:32:09.760 --> 0:32:19.840 Name was again, David, listen, call back next week and 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:25.600 let me know how it was all from Sydney, Sydney. 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.600 Hi, how the hell are you doing, Sydney? 0:32:31.560 --> 0:32:32.080 What's up? 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:34.000 I'm doing good. How the hell are you? 0:32:35.040 --> 0:32:35.200 Man? 0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:38.360 I'm a gecko. I'm floating around in the sky. I'm 0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:43.280 on the internet talking to strangers on the phone. Sydney. 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:49.920 It's everything, it's nothing. We're together in this moment digitally 0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:54.080 on the internet. You know, there's no expectations. I don't 0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.080 know what you know, Sydney. It's so crazy. After all 0:32:57.160 --> 0:33:00.360 these words that we've all said, not just me, not 0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:04.000 just you, but they're out all of human history. I mean, Sidney, 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.240 is there anything even left to say of all the 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.719 after all these years and all these words that are 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.280 said and done. 0:33:12.400 --> 0:33:16.640 Absolutely not. I'm less, completely speechless. There are no words 0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:18.200 left to be said at all. 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.360 I was about to say that that's a problem, but 0:33:22.440 --> 0:33:25.520 maybe it's not. Maybe we maybe maybe we should just 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:29.640 start to accept certain things that we that we ultimately 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:31.280 know to be true, like the fact that there are 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.320 no words. There are no more words to be said, 0:33:34.400 --> 0:33:36.280 but we can repeat some of the words that have 0:33:36.360 --> 0:33:41.080 already been said, just for fun, for a nostalgia's sense. 0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.600 What do you think, I concur I agree. 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:47.200 What's your talent? 0:33:49.400 --> 0:33:53.760 I am a painter. I love to paint. I like 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:57.480 to think you're pretty good at it. Yeah, that's my talent. 0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.000 What do you paint. 0:34:00.800 --> 0:34:01.280 Portraits? 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:07.960 I love painting people faces things. I'm really bad at finishing. 0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.160 Like I feel like I'm one of those people that 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.799 like get halfway through their painting, but like it's kind 0:34:13.800 --> 0:34:16.160 of my thing. Like if I look at my wall 0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:19.719 right now, I have like at least three paintings that 0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:24.479 are like unfinished, but just enough that like it's cool 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:25.520 that they're unfinished. 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.040 I was about to say, you know what. By the way, 0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:34.000 you are a perfect example of one of my favorite concepts, 0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.080 which is turning weaknesses into strengths, which is good to 0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:41.360 do in arts because it's so subjective. You're taking the 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:43.680 fact that you don't know how to finish or that 0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:49.440 you rarely are able to finish your paint things, and 0:34:49.560 --> 0:34:56.520 turning it into a intentional artistic decision. Thank you, And 0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.400 you're presenting it as an intentional artistic decision. 0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.440 Yes, exactly, You're so smart. 0:35:07.080 --> 0:35:08.320 That's smart. That's smart you. 0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:17.840 But yeah, I think painting is kind of underrated. I 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:20.480 feel like it was kind of on and pop in 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.719 and like the Renaissance, but like I feel like nowadays 0:35:24.800 --> 0:35:26.720 a lot of people are scared to become artists. 0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:29.000 Really are you? 0:35:29.440 --> 0:35:33.000 Why do you think they're scared, because I'm also scared 0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:33.920 to become an artist. 0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:36.160 You are an artist? 0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:38.600 Well, I mean yeah, But like. 0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:41.120 I want to go, Like I'm kind of torn between. 0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.720 So I'm in the process of like applying to college 0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.239 and like a lot of times I'm like, damn, like 0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:51.920 what do I want to do? 0:35:52.440 --> 0:35:53.960 Like do I want to go to art school? 0:35:54.160 --> 0:35:54.600 Do I not? 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.440 And like a lot of people would try to talk 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.640 to me out of like art school because it's kind 0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.120 of like a waste of money in a lot of 0:36:03.160 --> 0:36:05.400 people's eyes, so it's really discouraging. 0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:10.320 See, Okay, here's my opinion, and if you want it, 0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:18.319 pursuing pursuing a career in the arts is not even 0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.319 kind of a waste of time, you know. And there 0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:26.120 and and also by the way, financially invest by the way, 0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:31.520 financially investing in a career in the arts is not 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:38.920 a waste of money. But there, keep in mind there 0:36:38.960 --> 0:36:42.840 are many different ways to financially invest in a career 0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:47.960 in the arts than just going to arts school. Does 0:36:48.040 --> 0:36:48.560 that make sense? 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.239 Yes, Because like again I was like, why would I 0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.200 waste so much money? Not waste money, but spend money 0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:01.759 and be taught and criticize stuff that I already. 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:01.960 Know how to do. 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.360 You know, Like that's also an argument that I have 0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:09.280 about myself, because like I could just like free lance 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.320 or like sell art whenever, why do I need to 0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:13.399 go to school to do it? Because then I thought 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:21.520 like maybe getting like some sort of education like certification 0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:26.600 would be good, because education is like that's never gonna die. 0:37:26.800 --> 0:37:30.280 Everybody always wants to learn, so it's like I'll always 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.840 have a backup if I don't make it. Like selling 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.280 art privately, I could be like an art teacher. 0:37:39.160 --> 0:37:41.759 Do you how do you sell art now? Do you 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:43.120 use the TikTok and the. 0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:48.520 Inst I'm trying to get into it. I have like 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:56.360 Instagram for my paintings, but it's it's mainly local stuff. 0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:59.600 Like my mom is like one of my biggest fans, 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:03.720 always like tells everybody my daughter. She's an artist, she paints, 0:38:03.760 --> 0:38:08.800 she does this, and she's like my like Mamager. I 0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.120 love her very much. Shout out to my mom. 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:19.759 Well, listen, you know, I I I as a fan 0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.719 as as just because you're such a case study of 0:38:24.000 --> 0:38:29.120 turning the weakness into the strength via your signature unfinished paintings. 0:38:31.239 --> 0:38:35.239 I hope that you succeed because that will inspire me 0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:41.520 in my own, you know, in presenting my you know, 0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:47.279 laziness as as an intentional decision in the things that 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:48.000 I do as well. 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:50.160 Thank you. 0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:54.239 I appreciate that there's no crime in being easy at all. 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:59.680 I feel like if I feel like, if you feel 0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:02.400 like being lazy is what's best for you in the moment, 0:39:02.960 --> 0:39:03.279 then you. 0:39:03.400 --> 0:39:04.200 Do what's best for you. 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:09.760 Gak what did you say? Her name was Sydney, Sydney. 0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:10.480 Good luck to you. 0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:13.400 Thank you so much, Jack, I love you. 0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:18.840 How are you. 0:39:21.360 --> 0:39:23.520 Not doing too bad about yourself? 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:31.120 I'm chilling. I'm doing all right, you know. I it's 0:39:31.160 --> 0:39:35.799 been some good calls today, you know, trying to stay 0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:42.880 in the groove. Yeah, I agree, it's chilling. I'm just 0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.640 a hanging. I'm just chilling, man. Honestly, I'm just having 0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:46.360 a good time. 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:46.759 Man. 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.080 So life's alid doubts, just fucking you. 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:57.320 I couldn't agree, And yeah, no I do. I totally agree. 0:39:58.200 --> 0:39:59.880 I guess I should ask do you prefer going by 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:03.960 Lyle or I'd rather I'd rather address you man. 0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.359 Look, you can call me whatever you want. Man, These 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:09.960 just labels. Man, I'm I'm just a guy. It's a 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.439 Gecko guy, you know. Come on, man, it's all good. 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.400 Yeah, No, you know you're not wrong. 0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:20.719 On no. 0:40:21.480 --> 0:40:24.040 So I guess I appreciate you taking the call first 0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:30.680 and foremost. And I guess i'll just lay it out 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:37.640 for you. Two. Uh, single father And that was in 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:41.160 a five year relationship with somebody whom I lived with. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:44.560 And I'm just getting real bad mixed signals. I guess 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:48.800 where she tells me one thing, but her actions speak another. 0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:50.839 And this has been going on for probably a year 0:40:50.840 --> 0:40:52.239 and a half now, and I just need to know 0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:58.600 from a neutral standpoint. You know, if you have any 0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.800 personal experiences with then a get go relationships. You know 0:41:03.200 --> 0:41:05.720 what I should do for myself or what I should 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:06.560 try to do for myself. 0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.080 Okay, So you are telling me that you are in 0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:14.960 a you are currently in a relationship with this person. 0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:16.719 You were in a relationship with this person. You said 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.120 you have You said you're twenty two and you have 0:41:18.160 --> 0:41:19.240 a kid. How old is the kid. 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:22.880 I had when I was sixteen? Believe it or not, 0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:27.759 he is six Okay, I'll be turning twenty three next 0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:29.200 week if that matters. 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:35.400 Happy fucking birthday, dude, I appreciate it. And uh, and 0:41:35.680 --> 0:41:38.959 so what's the deal with with with this woman? She's 0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:43.600 your chai? Are you with her? Is she your child's. 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:46.520 No, this is mother. 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:50.319 So after a child was born, No, not my child's mother, 0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:53.319 but my child does see her as a mother, if 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:56.120 that makes sense. I was with her for five years. 0:41:58.080 --> 0:42:02.000 And because the relationship with my child's mother ended quickly 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.719 after he was born, I did everything I could to 0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.120 make it work, but it didn't. It is what it is. 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:12.640 And yeah, no, we actually have a I would say 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:18.239 a good relationship now and everybody liked each other. Yeah no, 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.920 I actually fought in court and thankfully I had a 0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.800 good support system where you know, I was able to 0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:29.560 fund uh court fees through high school and I fought 0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:33.320 for a good two and a half three years for 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:34.880 joint legal physical custody. 0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:36.320 M okay. 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.120 And the only reason I guess I point that fact 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.840 out is because I guess by now X she was 0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:48.600 with me throughout that time and helped support me, because 0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:52.360 you know, that's quite a difficult thing to do, especially 0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:55.200 as you know, a teenager. 0:42:55.760 --> 0:43:02.040 Right, all right, So so oh, okay, so you have 0:43:02.280 --> 0:43:06.040 sort of split custody with the kids, with the kid 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:11.800 with uh uh with the kid's mother who you have 0:43:11.880 --> 0:43:15.920 a good relationship with. And then, okay, tell me about 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.880 this person that you say you have a toxic relationship with. 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:29.080 Well, I think she's a great person. She challenges me, 0:43:29.360 --> 0:43:31.839 like mentally, like when we have conversations and I think, 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:35.279 you know, we don't flash so to say, but you know, 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:40.879 we see each other's point of view, and I don't 0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:44.279 want to say it's so much toxic, but I guess, well, no, 0:43:44.320 --> 0:43:46.440 I guess it is toxic if you really think about it. 0:43:47.719 --> 0:43:52.040 But it hasn't always been. We lived together up until 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.080 COVID hit. I was a I worked in a hospital. 0:43:55.320 --> 0:43:57.960 I won't specify really what I did, but I worked 0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.680 at clinical position in a hospital that was there when 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:05.320 COVID all first started. And unfortunately for myself my family, 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.279 at the time, I was helping take care of my 0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:10.560 grandmother who had cancer. So I decided to leave my 0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.040 position at the hospital so I could do that more effectively. 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:16.839 So then I was out of a job, and then 0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:19.640 she in turn lost her job, and we had lost 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:22.440 our house after that and had to move back in 0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:23.040 with my parents. 0:44:25.080 --> 0:44:28.680 So why is this, why is this a toxic relationship? 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:36.000 For right now, it's been about a over a year 0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:41.040 and she gives me verbal communication that she doesn't want anything, 0:44:42.840 --> 0:44:47.759 but then she still comes over. She will spend the 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:51.680 night and we'll you know, do our college homework together. 0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:56.800 We'll get dinner, we'll see movies. She still is around 0:44:56.880 --> 0:45:01.280 my kid occasionally, and it's it's to like doing everything 0:45:01.880 --> 0:45:05.040 that you would do in a relationship without actually being 0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:06.920 in a relationship. 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:09.879 You're saying this as if she's like doing these things 0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:10.839 against your will. 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.279 No, No, she's not. I don't take it that way. 0:45:15.400 --> 0:45:17.759 That's not what I mean by that. I mean I 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.480 enjoy it, like I enjoy her genuinely as a person, right, Okay, 0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:30.840 like I think in general? Yeah, no, nothing nothing, you know? 0:45:31.000 --> 0:45:33.520 And then what that is your what is? What is 0:45:33.560 --> 0:45:34.080 your issue? 0:45:34.120 --> 0:45:34.400 What is? 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.760 Why? Why do you claim that she's being toxic? 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.440 Because she'll tell me, like I said, she'll tell me 0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.560 one thing, like I'm trying to think of the good examples, 0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.680 will tell me, you know, she doesn't want a relationship 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:56.279 right now, and I try to respect that, and I 0:45:56.360 --> 0:45:58.640 try to respect that boundary. But you know, we'll go home. 0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:01.440 They'll have to will be like over dinner, right because 0:46:01.480 --> 0:46:03.479 she asked to go to dinner, or I had asked 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:05.080 to go to dinner. Because you know, I'm guilty of 0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:06.839 that too. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying to lay 0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:07.879 all the shape. 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:10.840 So all right, So here's here's what I'm hearing is 0:46:10.920 --> 0:46:12.759 that this girl has told you a bunch of times 0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:14.759 that she doesn't want a relationship, but you guys are 0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:17.879 still doing relationship things, and that's bothering you because she's 0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:21.279 being unclear, and don't put don't put up with that. 0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.439 I I people have called in about that. I hate 0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.560 that stuff. Don't put up with that, you know, like 0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:28.279 it's not good for anybody, you know, Just don't don't 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.080 don't don't put up with that. Like if you're gonna 0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:33.239 if you look, if you guys are gonna hang out 0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:35.480 and be friends, like hang out and be friends, you know, 0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:37.680 if you guys are gonna be in a relationship, be 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:40.400 in a relationship, don't do this thing that's gonna just 0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.480 fuck with both of you where you're like on the 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:48.680 fence about things. And I get that it's complicated, you know, 0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.680 but just like what do you what are you living 0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:52.640 in limbo for? 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:54.040 You know? 0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.040 I mean also if she doesn't want if she's telling 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.040 you that she doesn't want a relationship, and you say 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.800 that you want to respect that, then like, look, you know, 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:04.920 if she says like, hey, do you want to like 0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.400 hang out and sleep when she next time she's like, hey, 0:47:08.440 --> 0:47:10.319 can I come over and sleep with you in your bed? 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:16.600 Be like, hey, you know, I I love you, I 0:47:17.160 --> 0:47:18.680 really do. But if we're not going to be in 0:47:18.719 --> 0:47:22.279 a relationship. You know, I can't do relationship be kind 0:47:22.320 --> 0:47:24.560 of things with you like that, you know, you got 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:26.840 I think you gotta be firm about that, you know, 0:47:27.080 --> 0:47:27.600 or else. 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.040 You know, I gotcha. 0:47:34.320 --> 0:47:38.279 Yeah no, And I think I struggle with that, and 0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:39.320 I acknowledge it. 0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:44.040 I mean, it's hard because what you're really what what 0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:46.520 you're really sort of being tasked with here is like 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:50.280 being honest about how you feel, you know, and straight 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:52.319 out and being honest about how you feel is really hard, 0:47:55.680 --> 0:47:59.200 understandably so, but it's it's. 0:48:00.160 --> 0:48:02.279 A child in the equation is just a lot harder 0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:04.480 because you know, like I said before, my my kid 0:48:04.640 --> 0:48:11.640 sees her as like a mother, and it just complicates 0:48:11.719 --> 0:48:13.920 things so much more. And like I've been trying to 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.800 do better as a father, you know, between work and 0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:20.440 my college studies. You know, I'm trying to do my 0:48:20.600 --> 0:48:24.359 best there and put him first, you know, because as 0:48:24.400 --> 0:48:27.360 you do with a child, And like part of me 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:30.120 in the back of my head just kind of chirps 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:33.160 at me because he's always asking about her, Like even now, 0:48:33.880 --> 0:48:36.640 like he you know, we his mother, and I got 0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:39.400 him like a cell phone. He's like he talks to 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:40.680 her on the phone. 0:48:41.840 --> 0:48:45.719 He talks to her on the fext her. Yeah, how 0:48:45.760 --> 0:48:47.200 old to see You said he was five. 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:51.239 He's six, he'll be turning seven. We got him just 0:48:51.280 --> 0:48:53.920 like a cell phone, like an old cell phone, just. 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:57.279 An old cell phone. I couldn't even use an old 0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.240 cell phone, you mean want like the fucking flip phone 0:48:59.280 --> 0:49:03.120 where every like word that you no, no, it fucking. 0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.120 It's it's to be. But it's an old iPhone, to 0:49:07.200 --> 0:49:09.960 be clear. He uses the He can text small words 0:49:10.120 --> 0:49:13.239 like high by stuff, but he mostly uses like the 0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:17.400 voice chat, I guess, and we specifically got it for 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:21.960 him so he can communicate with his mother and myself 0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:26.160 when he's not in our homes or with you know, 0:49:26.360 --> 0:49:28.920 with the other families. And that's you know, we monitor 0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.440 the contacts and stuff, you know all that. 0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:34.280 Okay, I'm kind of curious. 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.279 I don't want to rip that away. 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:39.680 You don't want to rip away the relationship that your 0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:43.239 son has with uh this this this woman. 0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.440 Yeah, because I don't think that's healthy. 0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.880 I mean, you know, I mean look, here's here's the 0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:52.600 here's the thing. Okay, So when you say you don't 0:49:52.600 --> 0:49:54.040 think it's healthy, like you don't think it's healthy for 0:49:54.160 --> 0:49:56.239 him to like develop this relationship with this person and 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:58.040 then for you to rip it away. Because here's the thing. 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.759 If he's developing this relationship with this part on the 0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:07.320 on a foundation of this is like a motherish figure 0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:13.000 because this woman is romantically involved with my dad and 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:17.560 that's like the foundation of that relationship that I mean, 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:22.600 that is a lie unless a few guys actually are together. 0:50:23.480 --> 0:50:27.080 So even if like you might think that by taking 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.920 that away you're doing him a disservice, it's possible that 0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:32.759 you would be doing him a disservice by letting him 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:37.240 to continue sort of thinking about the relationship in those terms, 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:40.120 if that's not the truth. And another thing is like 0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:43.520 if this, if this lady is gonna, you know, commit 0:50:43.640 --> 0:50:45.920 to like being a part of your life and a 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:50.640 part of your son's life, like I think, and I don't, 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.239 I don't know, Like I'm not telling you, you know, 0:50:52.440 --> 0:50:55.359 I would never. I don't even like giving advice to people, 0:50:55.400 --> 0:50:58.560 even though I fucking have this stupid advice show. But like, 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:04.880 if if it's in important for you to have this, 0:51:05.480 --> 0:51:07.200 for this woman to have a relationship with your son, 0:51:07.320 --> 0:51:10.439 like like you know, she's got to kind of kind 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:14.000 of commit to it, you know, That's what I think, at. 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:20.560 Least you know, Yeah, then I guess you know, I 0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:23.040 guess the only thing the matter is time at this point, 0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:24.839 and only time will tell them because we can't tell 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.719 what the future is. At least that's the way I 0:51:27.800 --> 0:51:30.480 see it. But you know, at least in the moment, 0:51:30.800 --> 0:51:34.000 right it's it difficult to know which way you know 0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:40.160 what passed the take with with because I mean, I 0:51:40.200 --> 0:51:41.759 don't know the right w orown decision no matter. 0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:47.040 Here's from what you've told me, and correct me if 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:51.560 I'm wrong. It sounds like hanging out with this woman 0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:57.920 while not knowing what your relationship with her is is 0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:58.640 bothering you? 0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:00.279 Is true? 0:52:02.000 --> 0:52:04.520 Summed up? Yes, I think that's a great assssment that. 0:52:04.800 --> 0:52:08.719 Okay, if that's if that's bothering you, I think you 0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:10.880 should tell her. I don't know if you've told her already. 0:52:11.520 --> 0:52:18.400 If that's bothering you, then you should communicate that to her. 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:21.600 Have you guys had a conversation about that? Like, have 0:52:21.960 --> 0:52:24.239 you talked to her and been like, we've had you know, 0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:27.799 what were you gonna say? 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:28.719 Yeah? 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:30.319 No, no, I won't say. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.839 We had plenty of conversations and most of the time, 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:37.040 whenever something gets brought up, it's more so I don't 0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.040 want to talk about this anymore and I have too 0:52:39.120 --> 0:52:41.359 much on my plate already, or you know, it gets 0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:45.040 cut off rather abruptly, and I guess she had told me, 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:50.320 you know, five minutes in person is okay, but you know, 0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:52.160 I can't really do anything. 0:52:51.880 --> 0:52:56.160 More than that, Like, yeah, what do you mean by 0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.480 five minutes in person is okay? What does that mean? 0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.319 Well, the last conversation we had, I was just talking 0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:04.920 to her over the phone and it got brought up. 0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.080 We talked about stuff about twenty minutes, and at the 0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:12.520 end of the conversation she was quite upset and she 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.239 had said, listen, you know, talking about this stuff with 0:53:15.320 --> 0:53:17.200 you for five minutes, you know, face to face is 0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:19.120 one thing, but I can't talk about it, you know, 0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:23.319 for X you know, twenty thirty minutes. It's just too much. 0:53:26.239 --> 0:53:28.200 So it almost it feels like he's trying to avoid it. 0:53:28.719 --> 0:53:31.120 If this, if this is bothering you, like I think 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:33.839 you need to talk about it. That's that's that's sort 0:53:33.880 --> 0:53:36.359 of what I'll leave you with, even if it's hard. 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.960 You know, I don't have is typically the one you 0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:41.600 have to have, which is annoying. I don't like that either. 0:53:41.680 --> 0:53:43.120 Did I try to have I run away from that 0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:44.680 ship in my own life, I try to have those 0:53:44.680 --> 0:53:45.120 all the time. 0:53:46.000 --> 0:53:47.840 But yeah, just try to. 0:53:49.120 --> 0:53:52.200 Keep some open communication going, you know. 0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:56.240 Yeah, no, I try that, And obviously. 0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:59.000 Good luck in the future. It seems like you're doing 0:53:59.040 --> 0:54:00.759 the best you can for your son. It seems like 0:54:00.840 --> 0:54:03.640 you actually care. If I were sixteen and I had 0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:07.200 a kid, I would I don't even know what I 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.560 would do. So you know, you're handling your your your 0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.279 You're you're fucking handling it as well as you can, 0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:14.880 so you know, take solace in that. 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:19.840 Yeah, No, I appreciate that, and I just would like 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:21.600 to stay for the record, I'm not trying to bad 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:24.000 mouth her, right, I'm not trying to put her you 0:54:24.080 --> 0:54:24.399 know here. 0:54:24.560 --> 0:54:26.520 No, I don't think anyone thinks you're doing that. 0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.520 And I still respect this woman and I still hold 0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:33.080 her at a very high standard, and I don't want 0:54:33.080 --> 0:54:34.960 anybody else to think that badly of her for what 0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:37.040 she you know, because at the end of the day, 0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:42.360 you know, we're all people, and we make our own decisions, 0:54:42.800 --> 0:54:44.600 and you know it's all of our lives. 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:48.560 Well, listen, man, Thank you very much for calling, and 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:49.360 good luck to you. 0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.000 Well, I do appreciate it. 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You also get 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:38.200 access to the exclusive gek Legends discord Patreon dot com 0:55:38.400 --> 0:55:41.640 slash lyle forever. All right, back to the calls. 0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:45.800 Hello, how are you? I'm good to carry you. 0:55:49.440 --> 0:55:53.520 I'm a gecko er facts. 0:55:55.760 --> 0:55:56.560 And you're on the internet. 0:55:59.400 --> 0:55:59.880 No person? 0:56:01.480 --> 0:56:02.480 Do you like being a person? 0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:07.240 Oh it's okay. 0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:09.160 I think at times I'd rather. 0:56:09.120 --> 0:56:09.560 Be a gecko. 0:56:11.640 --> 0:56:14.680 Why you don't know what it's like to be a 0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:15.040 get go. 0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.200 You know what you're You're absolutely right, You're one hundred 0:56:20.200 --> 0:56:23.360 percent right. But you know, I was, you know, I 0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:26.240 was calling because I was having a bad day. Somebody 0:56:26.320 --> 0:56:30.360 broke into my truck stole some stuff, and then, you know, 0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:36.080 in the back of my head, I was thinking, if 0:56:36.480 --> 0:56:39.520 you know, somebody stole from get what could they steal? 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:42.160 What did they steal from you? 0:56:45.239 --> 0:56:45.399 Uh? 0:56:46.200 --> 0:56:50.000 Well, that would being too specific. Some some pew pew stuff, 0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.880 a firearm that I had in the vehicle, and some 0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:55.520 other little things that had in there. 0:56:58.360 --> 0:56:59.759 They stole a gun from your car? 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:02.359 Yep. 0:57:03.880 --> 0:57:05.120 Do they steal drugs from your car? 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:07.880 No? 0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.600 No, Well, I know the gun makes it look like I'm, 0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:16.640 you know, some sort of criminal, but in reality, you know, 0:57:16.680 --> 0:57:19.440 I live in Texas. I'm always at farms and ranches, 0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:21.360 so I usually have a gun on me because, you know, 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:24.800 we have a lot of wild animals that are keen 0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:26.240 on attacking humans down here. 0:57:27.680 --> 0:57:33.240 Have you by wild animal? I'm sorry, have you ever 0:57:33.280 --> 0:57:34.520 been attacked by wild animal? 0:57:36.360 --> 0:57:36.560 I have. 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.640 Actually, we go hog hunting. You know, they're an evasive 0:57:40.680 --> 0:57:43.680 species down here. There's way too many of them, and 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.920 they're not very nice, you know, and I've been you know, 0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.360 you get too close to them and they're mean. They 0:57:52.440 --> 0:57:54.280 they'll charge you, and then you kind of just got 0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.400 to do this thing where you run and shoot behind 0:57:57.480 --> 0:57:59.920 you and just hope that they don't catch up to you. 0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:03.480 It's it's not the safest. 0:58:03.160 --> 0:58:11.840 Thing, which I don't understand. H you're but so if 0:58:11.920 --> 0:58:17.880 you're going hog hunting, why are how are you then running? 0:58:18.840 --> 0:58:19.840 Oh you're how are you? 0:58:20.040 --> 0:58:20.080 Like? 0:58:20.200 --> 0:58:22.600 You're running away? Shouldn't they be running away from you 0:58:22.760 --> 0:58:24.320 if you're hunting them? 0:58:26.560 --> 0:58:31.480 You would think so, But in this instance, they are 0:58:31.800 --> 0:58:37.480 the alpha creature. You know, they they're very tasty, but 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.280 you know you do have to walk around and kind 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:43.920 of look for them, and you know, you would think 0:58:43.960 --> 0:58:48.480 that they would run away, and some do, but some 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.400 are just just not very nice, and then they run 0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:54.880 after you and the hunter becomes the hunted. 0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:59.800 I feel like the alpha creature is the one with 0:59:00.080 --> 0:59:00.439 the gun. 0:59:03.000 --> 0:59:06.760 You would think so, but but you know, pig like. 0:59:08.440 --> 0:59:09.840 A bigger gun. 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:15.960 You know, you make a good. 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:21.000 Point there and and I could see you, I can 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:23.680 see where you're coming from. But at the same time, 0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.400 it's kind of you know, you kind of just have 0:59:27.560 --> 0:59:31.840 to be there. They're they're they're big, they're mean. There's 0:59:31.920 --> 0:59:34.280 instances where you can shoot them and they don't care 0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.200 and they just keep running after you. They're they're they're 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:40.520 mean and they're tough. But I do see where you're 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:40.960 coming from. 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:44.600 How big is the biggest pig that you've been attached? 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.600 Who would win in a fight between one of these 0:59:48.680 --> 0:59:50.439 pigs and a bear? 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:53.880 Well? 0:59:53.920 --> 0:59:55.680 I think the bear one hundred percent. You know, the 0:59:56.440 --> 1:00:00.080 thing with the bear is that he's basically got hands, know, 1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:03.360 he's got the palls, and he could pin him down 1:00:03.680 --> 1:00:09.600 and then he could fight him. The hog resilient as 1:00:09.680 --> 1:00:14.400 they are very tough. I still feel like like the bear, 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:17.200 one could take a hog. 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:25.960 Okay, but you say that the hogs are the alpha creatures, but. 1:00:26.680 --> 1:00:29.080 Yeah, sometimes sometimes they are. 1:00:29.440 --> 1:00:32.640 But typically when you go to fight the hogs, you win, 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:35.800 probably because you have a gun. 1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:39.240 For the most part, yes, for the most part, yes, 1:00:41.680 --> 1:00:45.360 they are the alpha creature when they're running after and 1:00:45.520 --> 1:00:50.640 those instances, yes, But and the instances where I'm running 1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:56.000 and they're running behind me, you know, then they become 1:00:56.040 --> 1:00:56.440 the alpha. 1:00:58.400 --> 1:00:59.800 But you're the alpha. 1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:01.800 But you're running from them and you're shooting at them 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:06.960 with a gun and the bullet is faster than them. 1:01:09.000 --> 1:01:11.200 True, But the gun is the I don't know if 1:01:11.200 --> 1:01:11.680 you've ever. 1:01:13.480 --> 1:01:16.080 Maybe not you you know what you're you know, honestly, 1:01:16.120 --> 1:01:18.000 I think if you didn't, I think I think you're 1:01:18.040 --> 1:01:20.440 only correct if you don't have the gun. I think 1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:25.000 if it's just you versus the pig, then I could 1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:26.600 see the pig being make a good point, But the 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:34.240 gun itself gives you a pretty clear advantage. 1:01:33.760 --> 1:01:34.160 Over the pig. 1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:37.240 That's true. 1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:38.320 That's true. 1:01:38.520 --> 1:01:40.480 You know, you make a very good point there. The 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:43.640 only the only difference is that when you're trying to 1:01:43.760 --> 1:01:46.760 run and also shoot the thing that's running after you, 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:49.760 you know, there's a lot of bouncing around, a lot 1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:51.200 of sometimes, you know, you don't. 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:52.080 Always get that shot off. 1:01:52.720 --> 1:01:55.560 If I was sitting still, then I could hit him. 1:01:55.680 --> 1:01:58.960 But when you're trying to run and shoot the thing 1:01:59.000 --> 1:02:03.000 that's running after you, you it's it's kind of like 1:02:03.080 --> 1:02:09.080 a unversus Oh, it is, it is, but it's it's 1:02:09.160 --> 1:02:11.600 one of those things that it's just it's just fun, 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:16.960 you know, it's it's one hundred extremely unsafe. 1:02:21.640 --> 1:02:26.000 So someone broke into your car and stole the gun 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.560 that you use to run away from pigs while you 1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:35.640 shoot them. What do you what do you think that 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:36.160 they're going to. 1:02:36.200 --> 1:02:36.480 Do with it? 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:39.920 I don't know. 1:02:40.280 --> 1:02:43.000 I would assume crime, seeing as how they were already 1:02:43.080 --> 1:02:46.560 committing a crime. I would assume that that they're either 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.640 going to try and sell it or or commit. 1:02:49.480 --> 1:02:50.200 Crimes with it. 1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:55.320 You know, what kind of crimes do you think that 1:02:55.360 --> 1:02:56.000 will commit with it? 1:02:58.400 --> 1:03:03.520 I'm not sure. You know, there's a there's a long 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:06.640 list of things of crimes that you can commit with 1:03:06.800 --> 1:03:10.360 a firearm. You know, I'm not sure what they would 1:03:10.440 --> 1:03:11.080 or would not do. 1:03:18.840 --> 1:03:20.360 So what's your plan? Are you going to get a 1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:20.720 new one? 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:24.960 I'm night? 1:03:25.080 --> 1:03:28.360 I mean I have others. Actually, I actually just got 1:03:28.520 --> 1:03:32.080 that one, and I had it in the vehicle that 1:03:32.280 --> 1:03:35.200 they primarily because I was going to go to the 1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:39.440 shooting range later and try it out. But that that 1:03:39.640 --> 1:03:42.440 did that didn't work out, seeing as how it was stolen. 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:48.360 You know, my gut reaction to the idea of you 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:51.840 going to shoot pigs for fun is to be appalled. 1:03:52.560 --> 1:03:58.040 But well, well, but spots, I'm not shooting them for fun. 1:03:58.480 --> 1:04:08.880 You just said you're shooting I eat bacon also for fun, 1:04:10.240 --> 1:04:12.320 so I so I don't know if that makes me 1:04:12.520 --> 1:04:13.040 any better. 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:19.280 Well, I don't shoot them for fun. It's fun to 1:04:19.400 --> 1:04:25.040 go on the hunt. But no, I say going out 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:28.439 and shooting them is fun. That the hunt itself is fun. 1:04:28.600 --> 1:04:31.160 But I don't kill them just for fun. I don't 1:04:31.240 --> 1:04:31.600 leave them. 1:04:31.680 --> 1:04:31.880 I do. 1:04:32.320 --> 1:04:33.120 I do eat them. 1:04:34.680 --> 1:04:35.520 They're very tasty. 1:04:36.040 --> 1:04:37.680 Should lock your car doors next. 1:04:37.520 --> 1:04:41.600 Time, m they were loock they broke my window. 1:04:42.600 --> 1:04:46.880 Should lock your windows from the good point. 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:47.960 I hadn't thought of that. 1:04:49.320 --> 1:04:50.160 You can do it next time. 1:04:50.920 --> 1:04:57.200 Thank you for calling, Thank you, O good night, geck Allie. 1:04:59.320 --> 1:05:07.560 You know, Pauline was supposed to be the main love 1:05:07.680 --> 1:05:13.680 interest of Mario throughout the Mario series, but she had 1:05:15.680 --> 1:05:18.040 her very first appearance in like the very first Mario game, 1:05:18.080 --> 1:05:20.080 which was Donkey Kong or I guess that was a 1:05:20.120 --> 1:05:22.560 Donkey No, it's a fucking Mario game. But then she 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:26.400 got Pauline's kind of made a comeback though, because she 1:05:26.600 --> 1:05:31.040 was featured heavily in the uh Super Mario Odyssey, where 1:05:31.080 --> 1:05:31.880 she's like the Mayor. 1:05:35.760 --> 1:05:36.120 Is that so? 1:05:37.760 --> 1:05:38.000 Yeah? 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:40.520 I mean she's got She's sort of like become one 1:05:40.560 --> 1:05:44.520 of the lines of like peripheral sort of princesses to 1:05:44.600 --> 1:05:50.400 Princess Peach, like Rosalina and and then Pauline. But you know, 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:51.160 I can see, I. 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.840 Can see might be interesting, but I gotta cut you off. 1:05:54.120 --> 1:05:54.960 I gotta cut you off. 1:05:55.000 --> 1:05:55.840 I don't have much time. 1:05:56.360 --> 1:05:56.880 Why don't you have? 1:05:57.720 --> 1:05:59.920 At any moment, someone could come in and tell me 1:06:00.080 --> 1:06:01.840 to do something, so making it quick? 1:06:02.480 --> 1:06:05.480 All right, click, I got a true story for you, 1:06:06.040 --> 1:06:06.400 all right? 1:06:07.240 --> 1:06:07.600 All right? 1:06:07.840 --> 1:06:10.600 This girl I've been talking to, we split up about 1:06:10.640 --> 1:06:13.920 two months ago. We've been talking about getting back together, 1:06:14.880 --> 1:06:17.520 and you know, we talked on and off every day, 1:06:18.240 --> 1:06:20.960 and we decided that tomorrow was the day we were 1:06:21.000 --> 1:06:24.960 gonna move back in, gonna go over there, help remove 1:06:25.000 --> 1:06:28.320 her stuff, you know, get everything moved in. I have 1:06:28.480 --> 1:06:31.440 now been ghosted for all day today. I've heard a 1:06:31.480 --> 1:06:35.160 single thing from her, and that's where we're at. I 1:06:35.280 --> 1:06:38.000 feel so fucking stupid. I want to blow my fucking 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:40.360 brains out, but I'm not going to. But it's it's, yeah, 1:06:41.040 --> 1:06:42.480 how do you recover from being so? 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:44.120 I don't know? 1:06:44.600 --> 1:06:45.480 Where are you? Where would you? 1:06:45.520 --> 1:06:47.600 What would you do as a get go in this situation? 1:06:50.760 --> 1:06:53.800 I think she was in a Mario Kart game. She 1:06:54.120 --> 1:06:57.120 was okay, she was she was in Mario cart eight Deluxe. 1:06:58.200 --> 1:07:00.560 Yeah, Hey, I gotta go have a great night you too. 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:05.360 Call from THEO. 1:07:06.800 --> 1:07:07.080 Heo. 1:07:08.440 --> 1:07:16.440 How Hello, Hey, Hi, I'm. 1:07:17.440 --> 1:07:17.680 Hello. 1:07:18.640 --> 1:07:21.320 Yes, how are you doing today? 1:07:21.560 --> 1:07:23.240 Look? No, you know what, you don't have to ask 1:07:23.280 --> 1:07:24.800 me how I'm doing because you came in here with 1:07:24.880 --> 1:07:28.160 this energy that made that where you really just wanted 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:29.960 to get into it, and I'm with you. Let's get 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:30.320 into it. 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:32.360 Okay, thank you. 1:07:34.160 --> 1:07:38.240 So, I personally don't have any problems with anything, but 1:07:40.320 --> 1:07:43.400 I have this one X that I broke up with 1:07:43.520 --> 1:07:48.200 a few months ago, and she obviously still has feelings 1:07:48.240 --> 1:07:50.360 for me, and I don't. 1:07:52.320 --> 1:07:54.600 She's she's she's in the dark place. 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:55.880 And I feel guilty about it? 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:57.760 And what should I do about it? 1:08:03.840 --> 1:08:06.320 You feel guilty for breaking up with your ex girlfriend 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:11.560 because she's in a place. Yeah, I mean I don't 1:08:11.760 --> 1:08:17.240 really know. Well, here's here's one thing I will tell you, okay, 1:08:17.520 --> 1:08:20.840 is that and this is my own personal belief, is that, Look, 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:24.840 you have your reasons for breaking up with her, correct. Yeah, 1:08:26.320 --> 1:08:31.160 And I'm sure that those reasons are meaningful to you. Right, 1:08:32.200 --> 1:08:35.439 you're because here's here's why you shouldn't feel bad about 1:08:35.439 --> 1:08:36.840 this is because. 1:08:38.680 --> 1:08:39.040 You are. 1:08:41.120 --> 1:08:44.479 You feel guilty because you're breaking up with her, because 1:08:44.520 --> 1:08:49.040 you're like, but, but, but you being in a relationship 1:08:49.080 --> 1:08:52.560 with her is of no use to her if the 1:08:52.640 --> 1:08:56.000 relationship is not working, which I assume it's not because 1:08:56.040 --> 1:08:58.320 of the reasons that you have decided to break up 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:01.599 with her, So okay, does that make sense? 1:09:02.400 --> 1:09:03.559 Like it doesn't make. 1:09:03.520 --> 1:09:06.559 Sense you And look, you know, I don't know why 1:09:06.600 --> 1:09:08.000 you're breaking up with her. You don't have to tell 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:12.920 me for you know me to say this, but you 1:09:13.040 --> 1:09:17.519 have your the relationship is just not working out. Yeah, 1:09:17.920 --> 1:09:22.240 and that's why. That's why it's being ended. And you 1:09:22.320 --> 1:09:25.360 know it's probably not working out for reasons that are 1:09:25.479 --> 1:09:29.200 like I'm assuming, sort of out of your control. And 1:09:29.240 --> 1:09:33.000 I would consider like feelings, you know, maybe you're not 1:09:33.120 --> 1:09:36.879 feeling it anymore or something like that. I would consider 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:38.320 that not out of your control. I think you can. 1:09:38.360 --> 1:09:40.240 I don't think you can force yourself to love anyone. 1:09:40.600 --> 1:09:45.560 So look, you're kind of like it would not It 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:48.679 would not be helpful to her or helpful to anyone 1:09:49.280 --> 1:09:51.840 for you to simply stay in a relationship that's not 1:09:52.040 --> 1:09:55.519 working because you feel bad or because you think it 1:09:55.560 --> 1:09:58.720 would help. It would Actually it's like ripping a band 1:09:58.720 --> 1:10:03.120 aid off, like you know, like you just got to 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:05.680 do it. You know, it doesn't help to stay in 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.120 a bad relationship because this person's in a bad place. 1:10:09.040 --> 1:10:11.240 But the thing is, I've already broken up with her. 1:10:11.680 --> 1:10:13.160 I've moved on with my life. 1:10:13.240 --> 1:10:16.920 It's been months already. But she feels like she doesn't 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:22.120 have anyone she it was a long distance and she's 1:10:22.160 --> 1:10:25.280 been complaining about she doesn't have any friends or anything. 1:10:25.400 --> 1:10:30.560 And I feel like I'm the only person else or 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:33.479 she makes me feel like I'm the only person that 1:10:33.600 --> 1:10:36.640 she cares about. And I just want her to like 1:10:37.560 --> 1:10:43.320 associate and socialize with other people better and just move 1:10:43.360 --> 1:10:45.760 away from me and move on, and so we could 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:47.000 just go our separate ways. 1:10:47.680 --> 1:10:53.800 I think it's very sweet that you care about this person. 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:56.200 I can tell you care about this person. I think 1:10:56.240 --> 1:11:02.200 it's nice, but a like you're this this sort of 1:11:02.439 --> 1:11:06.880 like I I maybe you could call it a pity 1:11:07.760 --> 1:11:12.040 relationship or friendship. Even that she's trying to form with 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:15.559 you is of is as I've said, no use to her, 1:11:16.240 --> 1:11:22.200 because it's it is not genuine from you. Yeah, because 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:24.520 it comes from a place of pity, which is ingenuine. 1:11:25.160 --> 1:11:27.880 So so it's it's even if you were to like, 1:11:29.120 --> 1:11:32.720 you know, be sympathetic to these these things that she's 1:11:32.840 --> 1:11:37.400 telling you. You know, it's it. It just naturally is 1:11:37.520 --> 1:11:43.200 not coming from a place that's useful to either of you. 1:11:43.800 --> 1:11:46.160 You know. And look, I think it's sweet that you care. 1:11:46.240 --> 1:11:48.680 I really do, And it really seems like you care 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:51.479 about this person and you've done all that you reasonably can. 1:11:52.080 --> 1:11:54.160 But if you're gonna move on with your life, you 1:11:54.280 --> 1:11:56.439 got to just move on with your life. This is 1:11:56.520 --> 1:11:57.000 my opinion. 1:11:57.840 --> 1:11:59.960 I've moved on, but I don't know if she has. 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:05.880 At a certain point. It's not your responsibility. Okay, thank 1:12:05.920 --> 1:12:09.800 you for that, of course, have a nice stick you 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:13.679 as well. Man. I wish I could have said something 1:12:13.800 --> 1:12:15.800 like that to the guy who was asking me who 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:17.519 I was, said the Mario Kart thing too? 1:12:18.120 --> 1:12:20.280 Aw from Glynn Walker? 1:12:21.040 --> 1:12:22.519 What did Walker? 1:12:23.040 --> 1:12:23.320 What did? 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:25.200 Hello? 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:31.720 Hi? Hey, how's it going? 1:12:36.200 --> 1:12:46.880 Well? How's it going? I mean, look, you know, I'm 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:51.960 sort of you know it's going on, It's going how 1:12:52.040 --> 1:12:54.240 it goes? You know, I'm a gacko on the computer 1:12:54.320 --> 1:13:00.400 talking to people on the phone. Absolutely, absolutely, I can't 1:13:00.439 --> 1:13:02.840 believe I got through am I on speakerphone right now? 1:13:04.760 --> 1:13:05.040 You are. 1:13:05.160 --> 1:13:06.680 Let me turn the volume down a little bit of 1:13:06.720 --> 1:13:09.080 my phone is like fucked up, and like, oh, go 1:13:09.320 --> 1:13:09.760 ahead to be. 1:13:09.760 --> 1:13:11.880 A favor to take me off of speakerphone real quick. 1:13:14.200 --> 1:13:15.799 Okay, let me see. 1:13:17.680 --> 1:13:18.200 Is this better? 1:13:18.800 --> 1:13:25.599 Much better? I'm Jonathan? Jonathan are wearing shoes right now? 1:13:27.800 --> 1:13:28.200 I am not? 1:13:28.680 --> 1:13:32.200 Actually no, why are you wearing shoes right now? Jonathan? 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:39.240 Because I am laying on the bed and I just 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:41.640 didn't didn't seem right, And honestly, I was like a 1:13:41.680 --> 1:13:46.519 little warm, and your body temperature is actually heavily affected 1:13:46.600 --> 1:13:48.439 by your feet, and so I took the shoes off 1:13:48.479 --> 1:13:49.439 to cool my body down. 1:13:51.200 --> 1:13:54.320 That's a very well thought out answer to that question. 1:13:55.880 --> 1:13:57.479 Thank you, Thank you very much. 1:13:58.280 --> 1:13:59.760 Do you typically put a lot of thought into the 1:13:59.760 --> 1:14:02.519 answer that you provide? Very fust two? Do you typically 1:14:02.560 --> 1:14:04.880 put a lot of Do you typically put a lot 1:14:04.920 --> 1:14:07.960 of thought into the answers that you provide to various questions. 1:14:10.760 --> 1:14:14.479 It just depends on the question, I guess when. 1:14:14.320 --> 1:14:16.880 You say it depends on the question. What criteria must 1:14:16.920 --> 1:14:18.840 a question have for you to put thought into it? 1:14:20.880 --> 1:14:23.720 I guess how much of an impact it has on 1:14:23.920 --> 1:14:25.760 the other person in the conversation? 1:14:26.400 --> 1:14:34.320 Interesting? Interesting, Do you believe that when you say impact? 1:14:34.439 --> 1:14:36.320 What sort of impact. 1:14:38.080 --> 1:14:41.360 So I mean, if it's a if it's like a 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:45.120 personal question, if someone's wanting like a you know, an 1:14:45.160 --> 1:14:49.000 opinion on a personal matter, you know, I'm gonna gonna 1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:52.920 give that a little more thought. But if they have 1:14:53.120 --> 1:14:55.400 like a general question like hey, do you do you 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:57.160 like this shirt? You know, it's just gonna be like 1:14:57.240 --> 1:15:00.400 an off the rip, like yeah or no? Or do 1:15:00.520 --> 1:15:02.479 you like the shirt? Because that's what really matters. 1:15:03.120 --> 1:15:06.120 Interesting, because I feel as though, all right, so I 1:15:06.240 --> 1:15:08.920 asked you why you are not currently wearing shoes, and 1:15:08.960 --> 1:15:11.479 you give me a very well thought out answer, And 1:15:13.360 --> 1:15:17.439 did you do so because you rated the impact of 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:21.720 the answer to the question on me as very high? 1:15:24.000 --> 1:15:27.160 No, I actually I answered it just because that was 1:15:27.720 --> 1:15:29.200 it didn't really require much thought. 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:29.640 You know. 1:15:29.920 --> 1:15:35.920 It's like I know that like body temperature depends, like 1:15:36.000 --> 1:15:38.760 I said, heavily on your feet and also on the 1:15:38.800 --> 1:15:41.519 top of your head. And so if you want to 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:44.080 cool down, you know, if you're wearing a hat, take 1:15:44.120 --> 1:15:46.400 off your hat and take off your shoes and socks, 1:15:47.200 --> 1:15:48.960 and if you want to warm up, you know, maybe 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:50.000 throw a hat on, throw. 1:15:49.920 --> 1:15:50.439 Some shoes on. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:56.840 It's just well, you again, it feels as though you 1:15:57.000 --> 1:15:59.519 gave me yet another well thought out answer. I feel 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:00.320 like you're very good at this. 1:16:02.000 --> 1:16:05.519 I guess I'm just naturally naturally talented, maybe because I 1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:08.320 don't feel like I'm thinking too hard about it, just trying. 1:16:08.120 --> 1:16:10.519 To go with the flow, you know, exactly. Well, maybe 1:16:10.560 --> 1:16:11.840 that's your talent, is going with the flow. 1:16:13.040 --> 1:16:14.320 Hey, appreciate that. 1:16:14.479 --> 1:16:14.639 Man. 1:16:16.840 --> 1:16:17.639 What do you do for a living? 1:16:19.560 --> 1:16:19.720 Ah? 1:16:19.920 --> 1:16:20.120 Wow? 1:16:20.520 --> 1:16:23.839 What do I do for a living? Currently? 1:16:24.240 --> 1:16:28.000 I work as a prep cook at a conference center, 1:16:28.160 --> 1:16:30.720 and I actually have you mentioned Chick fil earlier? I 1:16:30.760 --> 1:16:35.240 actually have an interview with Chick fil A on Friday 1:16:35.920 --> 1:16:39.680 for a second job because I'm trying to trying to. 1:16:39.760 --> 1:16:41.320 Save up some money, and. 1:16:42.920 --> 1:16:46.320 They're paying nineteen dollars an hour, which is like unheard 1:16:46.360 --> 1:16:49.000 of these days, so it's kind of nice. I'm hoping 1:16:49.240 --> 1:16:53.000 hoping that I get that. So, but you know, what 1:16:53.120 --> 1:16:58.040 I'm doing for a living is whatever I can whatever 1:16:58.120 --> 1:17:01.200 I can find that you know, helps me out the 1:17:01.280 --> 1:17:04.800 most and my future successes. 1:17:06.080 --> 1:17:08.160 Whatever helps you out the most in your future successes. 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:12.519 Your future successes, tell me about them? What do they 1:17:12.560 --> 1:17:12.840 look like? 1:17:14.640 --> 1:17:14.800 Oh? 1:17:15.200 --> 1:17:16.439 Well, I. 1:17:18.360 --> 1:17:23.160 I love music. I'm a musician, and so I work 1:17:23.640 --> 1:17:27.240 hard at that. So I'd love to have some sort 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:30.479 of like a like a B tier career as a musician. 1:17:32.120 --> 1:17:35.000 But for me, success really is like getting like a 1:17:35.120 --> 1:17:38.560 large plot of land and building a homestead on it 1:17:39.640 --> 1:17:43.680 and being able to live off that land and you know, 1:17:43.920 --> 1:17:49.720 potentially provide jobs for friends and family and you know, 1:17:49.920 --> 1:17:52.400 set other people up for success with my success. 1:17:53.800 --> 1:17:57.240 So a sort of sustainable farming thing where all of 1:17:57.280 --> 1:17:59.479 your food would be grown on the land in which 1:17:59.520 --> 1:17:59.800 you live. 1:18:01.160 --> 1:18:03.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I mean on the land 1:18:03.920 --> 1:18:05.479 you know. I want to do like a like a 1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:09.320 solar farm because in many states you can get like 1:18:09.360 --> 1:18:12.040 a nice tax credit for that, and also would be 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:14.800 able to provide power for myself. You know, maybe even 1:18:14.960 --> 1:18:19.200 like if it's big enough land, you know, maybe I 1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:22.320 could even have like a music venue there and do 1:18:22.520 --> 1:18:26.600 like some some concerts and festivals and stuff like that. 1:18:26.760 --> 1:18:29.640 It all just depends on the the size of the 1:18:29.800 --> 1:18:32.800 land and the resources that I have available to me. 1:18:33.439 --> 1:18:38.400 I like that Duncan's Farm Music Festival. 1:18:40.800 --> 1:18:43.439 Duncan Am I going to be sponsored by like Dunkin Donuts. 1:18:47.680 --> 1:18:50.600 Do you feel as though there will be enough electrical outlets, 1:18:51.080 --> 1:18:55.080 like if you're doing this in like a farm that 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:58.280 was a dumb question. Answer it anyway. 1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:04.800 There's no such thing as dumb question, is there? 1:19:05.080 --> 1:19:06.040 That's what my teachers told me. 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:08.599 Anyways, What else did teacher tell you that you remember? 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:10.760 Oh? 1:19:10.880 --> 1:19:11.080 Man? 1:19:13.479 --> 1:19:17.240 What else did my teachers tell me? Why equals MX 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:19.280 plus b Uh? 1:19:20.160 --> 1:19:22.200 I remember that? I don't. 1:19:22.320 --> 1:19:23.240 I think that's slope? 1:19:23.880 --> 1:19:24.719 Uh intercept? 1:19:27.400 --> 1:19:27.960 I remember that? 1:19:31.240 --> 1:19:31.680 What are they? 1:19:32.560 --> 1:19:32.880 You know what? 1:19:33.360 --> 1:19:33.400 Like? 1:19:34.920 --> 1:19:36.960 None of my teachers really had too much of an impact, 1:19:37.040 --> 1:19:40.599 but my my high school principal had a huge impact 1:19:40.680 --> 1:19:44.880 on me. And you know, he uh, he gave me 1:19:44.920 --> 1:19:46.960 a guitar for my eighteenth birthday and he just told 1:19:47.000 --> 1:19:50.720 me to make sure to pay it forward and to 1:19:50.960 --> 1:19:53.519 just be good to people. And so I've kind of, uh, 1:19:54.120 --> 1:19:58.560 that's really stuck with me. But yeah, I mean I 1:19:58.640 --> 1:20:02.599 can't really remember much of much else of what teachers told. 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:04.320 Me, you know, I guess, like I have two questions 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:10.439 to that. Okay, first question, Your high school principal gave 1:20:10.520 --> 1:20:15.600 you a guitar for your eighteenth birthday? Yes, sir, you 1:20:15.680 --> 1:20:20.439 had a pretty close relationship with them. Yeah. 1:20:21.360 --> 1:20:24.160 So for my junior and senior year of high school, 1:20:24.160 --> 1:20:27.479 I was teaching myself to play guitar, and I would 1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:32.320 borrow friends guitars and during Spirit Week I would go 1:20:32.439 --> 1:20:36.679 around to classrooms and stuff and play guitar and play 1:20:36.760 --> 1:20:39.920 like covers and stuff to raise money for the said 1:20:40.040 --> 1:20:43.760 charity of that year. And he knew that I borrowed 1:20:43.840 --> 1:20:46.599 guitar to be able to do that, and he knew 1:20:46.600 --> 1:20:51.480 that I was like teaching myself, and so he decided 1:20:51.520 --> 1:20:55.400 that he he he asked me, you know, he's like, 1:20:55.439 --> 1:20:57.519 what's a good guitar. I'm gonna get my son a guitar, 1:20:57.680 --> 1:21:01.360 you know, and like, I'd really like to know your opinion. 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:04.040 And I told him, like, a Taylor, you know, do 1:21:04.120 --> 1:21:06.240 you know much about guitars? Do you know anything about guitars? 1:21:06.320 --> 1:21:08.080 I don't know a single thing about guitars. 1:21:09.200 --> 1:21:11.840 Okay, So, like two of the most popular acoustic guitars 1:21:11.880 --> 1:21:15.320 are Tailors and Martin's, and Tailors have a really nice, 1:21:15.960 --> 1:21:18.479 bright sound to them. And so I told him that 1:21:18.600 --> 1:21:20.479 one and he kind of just played it off as 1:21:20.520 --> 1:21:22.880 if he was getting his son a gift, right, And 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:27.360 so one day he he's like, Hey, I got my 1:21:27.439 --> 1:21:29.120 son this guitar. I'd love to know what you think. 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:31.200 Can you check it out? And I was like, yeah, sure, 1:21:31.240 --> 1:21:34.719 And so he handed me the guitar and I played 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:36.360 around on a little bit and I mean it sounded 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:38.120 it sounded so good. 1:21:38.479 --> 1:21:40.160 And he was like, what do you think of that? 1:21:40.960 --> 1:21:42.960 And I was like, I think he'll like it a lot. 1:21:43.240 --> 1:21:45.320 It's a really nice guitar. You did a good job. 1:21:45.439 --> 1:21:49.400 And he he said, well, actually that's. 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:51.160 For you, and he. 1:21:53.240 --> 1:21:53.960 He purchased it. 1:21:54.080 --> 1:21:57.360 It was either him or him in the administration of 1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:00.439 the school got together and purchased it. Because they were 1:22:00.479 --> 1:22:03.120 all standing behind me like filming it on there like 1:22:03.280 --> 1:22:07.280 iPhone threes or fours or whatever it was at that time, 1:22:07.400 --> 1:22:10.679 like ten years ago, and it was like a big surprise. 1:22:11.200 --> 1:22:14.519 And I'm actually looking at the guitar right now. I 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:18.280 still have it. But I thought that was really cool. 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:23.200 I don't think many people get that experience from teachers 1:22:23.280 --> 1:22:26.600 or administrators in that school. And you know, he he 1:22:26.760 --> 1:22:28.360 was a really good guy. I got to shout him out, 1:22:28.439 --> 1:22:32.160 like Stephen Chamnis. He passed away like two or three 1:22:32.240 --> 1:22:35.760 years ago, but he really cared, you know, and it 1:22:36.200 --> 1:22:40.320 made a big impact on me. And yeah, it's the 1:22:40.479 --> 1:22:42.360 cherished memory and a cherished. 1:22:42.040 --> 1:22:42.720 Item of mine. 1:22:45.160 --> 1:22:48.479 Now tell me you say that what was his name 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:53.160 against Stephen. Yes, Stephen, what you did? You you you 1:22:53.520 --> 1:22:57.160 must have called him mister what was his last name? Tamness, 1:22:57.720 --> 1:23:04.160 mister Chamnis, Yes, sir, mister Chamnas, So, mister Shamnis. He 1:23:04.280 --> 1:23:08.800 told you to pay forward? Yes, Do you feel as 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:11.280 though you have made efforts to pay forward? 1:23:13.800 --> 1:23:19.280 I definitely feel as if I've made efforts. I to me, 1:23:19.560 --> 1:23:24.960 like paying it forward would be to eventually buy someone 1:23:25.000 --> 1:23:29.600 else's guitar or invest in someone else's like dreams in 1:23:29.680 --> 1:23:34.439 the way that he did for me. Unfortunately, I've had 1:23:34.920 --> 1:23:39.439 a lot of struggles financially and self admittedly in my 1:23:39.520 --> 1:23:42.720 early twenties, you know, a lot of that was pure 1:23:42.840 --> 1:23:49.479 financial irresponsibility, you know, and then pandemic kind of threw 1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:53.040 everything out of whack. And so I'm working on getting 1:23:53.080 --> 1:23:55.280 all of that together now so that i can do 1:23:55.360 --> 1:23:58.760 a better job. But I've always done my best to 1:23:58.920 --> 1:24:02.280 like live past passionately and just just show love to 1:24:02.360 --> 1:24:07.920 people in general, like as a as an immediate you know, 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:11.920 response to meeting someone. You know, it's like you never 1:24:12.040 --> 1:24:14.280 know what somebody's going through in life, and you know, 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:16.639 if somebody is like in a in a crappy mood 1:24:16.760 --> 1:24:19.240 and projecting it onto you. That doesn't necessarily mean that 1:24:19.320 --> 1:24:23.640 it's towards you. You're just unfortunately the one receiving that 1:24:23.840 --> 1:24:26.880 from them, you know. And it's like I've just done 1:24:26.920 --> 1:24:29.680 my best to to show love to people and to 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:32.760 encourage people and to uh. 1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:37.760 Just be what I feel is a good person, beautiful 1:24:39.120 --> 1:24:41.400 well said, thank you, duncan. 1:24:43.200 --> 1:24:44.320 Thank you very much man? 1:24:46.000 --> 1:24:46.559 Then uh. 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:49.960 Yeah, Doug, real quickly, is. 1:24:49.960 --> 1:24:51.680 There anything that you'd like to talk about, anything that 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:53.800 you have on your mind, like could. 1:24:53.439 --> 1:24:55.560 Give some one My question for you, is there a 1:24:55.600 --> 1:25:00.320 particular animal that you are most excited to have on 1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:04.640 this farm, either to kill their meat or toss it? 1:25:08.800 --> 1:25:08.840 So? 1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:13.479 Can I split that into two questions, like a particular 1:25:13.520 --> 1:25:16.920 animal to like raise for livestock in a particular animal 1:25:17.000 --> 1:25:18.760 to have like as a as a pet. 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:20.000 No, it's just. 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:23.519 Just the livestock one. 1:25:23.840 --> 1:25:24.639 Just a livestock one. 1:25:25.800 --> 1:25:29.920 Okay, hm hmm. 1:25:33.960 --> 1:25:34.519 That's tough. 1:25:35.640 --> 1:25:39.360 I don't necessarily love the idea of of killing animals, 1:25:39.400 --> 1:25:41.240 but I also am more. 1:25:41.160 --> 1:25:44.559 Keen to animals, or I mean, I guess you could. 1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:53.600 Well like so the farm primarily is for uh like paeonies, 1:25:53.880 --> 1:25:58.600 so like flowers, and so me and my partner have 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:04.000 talked about, you know, getting into that business because weddings 1:26:04.640 --> 1:26:08.760 like those flowers, and they typically sell for anywhere between. 1:26:09.800 --> 1:26:11.519 Hearing that you say that you want to that you're 1:26:11.600 --> 1:26:12.800 very excited to kill a chicken. 1:26:13.960 --> 1:26:15.439 Yes, I'm super excited. 1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:18.720 Beautiful. Thank you so much for saying anything, DOUNC and 1:26:18.760 --> 1:26:19.519 I really appreciate it. 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:21.639 Hey, thank you so much. 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:21.840 Man. 1:26:21.880 --> 1:26:23.360 You have a blast night you as well. 1:26:26.280 --> 1:26:26.439 Hello. 1:26:27.840 --> 1:26:36.320 Hi, how's it going, gek, how's it going? How's it going? 1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:39.080 How's it going? How's it going? How's it going? 1:26:43.960 --> 1:26:44.200 You know. 1:26:47.040 --> 1:26:51.200 It's gone. I'm a gecko on the computer. 1:26:55.040 --> 1:26:58.519 You are a gecko on the computers? The fact? 1:27:00.520 --> 1:27:03.800 Is it a fact? Do you do you? Do you 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:05.920 believe it is objective reality? 1:27:12.160 --> 1:27:12.360 Yeah? 1:27:15.720 --> 1:27:15.920 I do? 1:27:21.080 --> 1:27:27.160 Thank you. Do you believe that reality is a democracy? 1:27:31.439 --> 1:27:31.599 Uh? 1:27:32.240 --> 1:27:37.719 I don't even really understand what that question means. 1:27:38.640 --> 1:27:43.280 I think what it means is that, like the uh okay, 1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:48.280 so the acceptance of what is? Do you think that 1:27:48.720 --> 1:27:52.320 everyone sort of gets to vote on what is? Or 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:54.560 do you think everyone in their own mind gets to 1:27:54.800 --> 1:27:56.760 sort of decide and have their own experience of what 1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.240 is and that there is a difference and that there 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:05.840 is a diff definitive reality versus everyone's perception just combined together. 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:08.800 What did you want to You had a thing? Do 1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:16.519 you know what? Lou is your name? Yes, tell me 1:28:16.560 --> 1:28:20.120 about the thing that you told our dear friends that 1:28:20.160 --> 1:28:21.000 you wanted to talk about. 1:28:23.160 --> 1:28:25.240 Yeah, the new calling system. 1:28:25.320 --> 1:28:27.760 Yeah, questions of reality. 1:28:28.040 --> 1:28:31.479 I do like that. The new calling system. I yeah, 1:28:31.520 --> 1:28:34.719 I told them about the first time I got arrested. 1:28:36.800 --> 1:28:38.920 Should just get into it, to just get get right 1:28:38.960 --> 1:28:39.280 into it. 1:28:41.280 --> 1:28:44.519 I feel like we've already gotten into it, depending on 1:28:44.600 --> 1:28:45.000 what it is. 1:28:45.000 --> 1:28:52.599 All right, Okay, So I was a freshman in college 1:28:52.960 --> 1:28:58.400 and I was tailgating a football game. We're out there 1:28:59.240 --> 1:29:02.559 having a good time, hanging out, drinking some beers and whatnot, 1:29:02.720 --> 1:29:06.120 and then games about to start. We're heading home. We 1:29:06.200 --> 1:29:11.799 see the team walking into the stadium, and for whatever reason, 1:29:11.920 --> 1:29:15.960 I decided I was gonna follow them and go walk 1:29:16.080 --> 1:29:19.160 on to the field with them. And somehow I successfully 1:29:19.320 --> 1:29:22.840 managed to get through the tunnel and walk through with 1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:25.519 the team. I walked all the way around the field 1:29:25.520 --> 1:29:28.679 and I was hanging out for like ten fifteen minutes, 1:29:28.760 --> 1:29:32.200 maybe handing them waters and whatnot. I took a video 1:29:32.280 --> 1:29:34.920 of myself down there and then put a hand on 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:38.679 my shoulder, got dragged out, gave me a good old 1:29:38.800 --> 1:29:43.160 sobriety test. There's a group of like eighth graders, there's 1:29:43.240 --> 1:29:46.640 some some somewhere in that age range watching me, and 1:29:46.720 --> 1:29:50.559 I just felt so disappointed at that moment. And then 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:53.000 I get thrown on a bench. Look up and one 1:29:53.040 --> 1:29:55.200 of my friends so I was hanging out with earlier, 1:29:56.000 --> 1:29:59.519 also was arrested at the same time, completely different thing. 1:29:59.600 --> 1:30:01.880 And then we spent the night in jail together, and 1:30:02.000 --> 1:30:04.600 it was quite an experience. 1:30:07.120 --> 1:30:08.320 Would you ever go back to jail? 1:30:11.040 --> 1:30:13.320 I did go back to jail, but I do not 1:30:13.479 --> 1:30:17.120 plan on going back any more. Times. I've been to 1:30:17.240 --> 1:30:19.799 jail enough for a lifetime. 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:22.400 Tell me about the second time you went to jail. 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:29.479 The times not as on that. When I was just 1:30:29.800 --> 1:30:33.000 we were just having a party, had some jungle juice. 1:30:33.040 --> 1:30:36.320 We decided that we were going to go to McDonald's 1:30:36.320 --> 1:30:41.000 at like four am, and so I grabbed one of 1:30:41.080 --> 1:30:44.200 my roommate's keys. We and me and a bunch of 1:30:44.320 --> 1:30:46.800 dudes packed up in the car, started driving around and 1:30:46.960 --> 1:30:50.120 they drove around for a little bit on some third roads. 1:30:50.160 --> 1:30:53.960 We're going really fast, and we finally bombed up. Started 1:30:54.040 --> 1:30:57.040 driving to McDonald's and then I cop pulled this over 1:30:57.120 --> 1:31:00.400 and then I got arrested for that, which that one 1:31:00.520 --> 1:31:01.240 just kind of sucks. 1:31:01.360 --> 1:31:12.920 But did you experience anything in the joint that changed you? 1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:21.519 In the joint? Kind of You meet a lot of 1:31:21.600 --> 1:31:24.800 interesting people in there, because well, at least the way 1:31:24.800 --> 1:31:27.120 they did it where I got arrested, we all just 1:31:27.200 --> 1:31:31.200 kind of got put in one cell together and had 1:31:31.240 --> 1:31:33.560 to wait for the nights. You meet a lot of 1:31:33.640 --> 1:31:36.360 interesting people like that. I met a guy. There's some 1:31:36.439 --> 1:31:39.000 few people who are like regulars at the tail and 1:31:39.080 --> 1:31:41.960 this is something that I've found other people I know 1:31:42.000 --> 1:31:45.920 who've gotten arrested have also experienced, and that those those 1:31:45.960 --> 1:31:51.360 people are quite interesting and give you a good change 1:31:51.400 --> 1:31:52.800 of perspective on life. 1:31:54.080 --> 1:31:56.839 Tell me about any one of these people in particular 1:31:56.920 --> 1:31:58.720 that you met and what Liza that told you that 1:31:59.000 --> 1:31:59.839 changed your perspective. 1:32:04.960 --> 1:32:08.360 One of the guys who's in there got He claimed 1:32:08.439 --> 1:32:12.000 that he got hit by a train and something like that, 1:32:12.439 --> 1:32:16.760 and I don't know, I don't know what the whole 1:32:17.240 --> 1:32:22.719 deal was with that, but it's just interesting to see 1:32:22.800 --> 1:32:26.040 how like why they how do you keep ending up 1:32:26.080 --> 1:32:30.120 in jail? You know, like what what forces are at 1:32:30.160 --> 1:32:42.400 play that causes someone to do that, but I also did. 1:32:42.479 --> 1:32:44.840 That's why why don't I understand that? I don't know. 1:32:46.040 --> 1:32:49.280 Maybe that's something I should go talk to a therapist about. 1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:53.720 If you were to go to jail third time, what 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:54.519 do you think it would be for? 1:33:01.439 --> 1:33:06.840 It would have to be something. It would be something big, 1:33:07.040 --> 1:33:11.519 like money laundering, or it'd have to be really worth 1:33:11.560 --> 1:33:15.639 it to go to jail for a third time. Maybe, 1:33:15.760 --> 1:33:19.400 Like I've always liked mob movies and stuff. If I 1:33:19.400 --> 1:33:21.519 could be in the mob, that would be that'd be cool. 1:33:23.479 --> 1:33:24.760 What do you think you would do for the mob? 1:33:30.600 --> 1:33:34.760 Shake guys down, you know, burn down buildings for insurance money, 1:33:39.560 --> 1:33:42.840 the sort of mob stuff. Maybe on a strip club? 1:33:44.680 --> 1:33:45.760 Would you cook for the mob? 1:33:50.520 --> 1:33:53.240 If I had, I maybe own a restaurant the mob 1:33:53.320 --> 1:33:55.640 would let the mob to hang out in, But personally 1:33:55.840 --> 1:33:59.400 I would not. I would not like cooking for the mob. 1:33:59.840 --> 1:34:02.880 I I did. I did work as a coke once. 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:06.360 It was just I liked it, but it was not 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:10.040 It was not something I could do long term, especially 1:34:10.160 --> 1:34:15.080 for mob people, because then you know that they got 1:34:15.240 --> 1:34:18.040 they got high standards, and if you don't live up 1:34:18.080 --> 1:34:20.720 to that time, that's not It's not good for you. 1:34:21.920 --> 1:34:30.240 Do you think the mob would like you? No, I 1:34:30.280 --> 1:34:30.560 don't know. 1:34:30.720 --> 1:34:35.320 That's that's that's for the mob. Maybe, I don't know. 1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:42.880 Depends on if I things go well for me, if 1:34:42.960 --> 1:34:44.960 I if I was doing a good job, or if 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:47.479 I blew it on my first job, and maybe they 1:34:47.520 --> 1:34:48.599 wouldn't like me so much. 1:34:51.400 --> 1:34:51.880 I like you. 1:34:55.280 --> 1:35:02.280 I like you too, GEK, thank you. I wonder I 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:05.479 wonder if those those people have been I'm still thinking 1:35:05.520 --> 1:35:09.720 about those those two married couples. Did that did that 1:35:09.880 --> 1:35:15.519 thing or not? I hope they called back. Sorry to 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:20.640 change the subjects. That just popped into my mind. Is 1:35:20.680 --> 1:35:29.759 this just am I cutting out? He was quiet? What? Okay? 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:32.680 I didn't know if my phone was cutting out? If 1:35:32.680 --> 1:35:34.679 we were just we were just quiet. 1:35:37.240 --> 1:35:38.720 Would you kill someone for the mob? 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:46.840 Yeah? Probably if they paid me off, not not if 1:35:46.880 --> 1:35:49.120 it was just like if it was like another mob 1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:53.519 guy who like killed someone in my mob group, then 1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:55.160 I would I would kill that guy. But if it 1:35:55.240 --> 1:35:58.120 was just like, hey, this guy didn't pass money, you 1:35:58.200 --> 1:35:58.840 should kill him. 1:35:58.840 --> 1:36:00.559 I don't know if I would do that, but then 1:36:02.680 --> 1:36:05.920 they might kill me, so maybe I would. The mob 1:36:06.040 --> 1:36:08.040 might kill me if I didn't kill that person. You know, 1:36:08.240 --> 1:36:10.880 maybe if I was, if I was in that deep, 1:36:10.960 --> 1:36:12.560 then maybe I would I would have to do that. 1:36:13.680 --> 1:36:16.040 What about for one hundred thousand dollars. 1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:25.760 Mm hmm, Yeah, probably if I was in the MOB, 1:36:25.840 --> 1:36:28.320 I'd probably I would probably be I'd probably do that. 1:36:31.960 --> 1:36:35.080 They probably pay less people, they'd probably pay people less. 1:36:36.840 --> 1:36:42.120 I feel I think that would be a good on 1:36:42.240 --> 1:36:48.479 the high end of pay for a job like that. Well, 1:36:48.520 --> 1:36:54.720 thank you so much, MOB, Thank thanks for having me. 1:36:54.840 --> 1:36:57.599 Kay, of course, I hope you have a good rest 1:36:57.600 --> 1:36:57.920 of the night. 1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:00.960 HM as usual. 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:07.599 Hey, hey, I want your opinion on something. Oh sure, 1:37:10.360 --> 1:37:14.320 So I background, I'm eighteen, right, I'm a senior high 1:37:14.320 --> 1:37:18.439 school and obviously this year's a little messed up because 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:28.000 of COVID, and they decided to change up homecoming. And 1:37:28.360 --> 1:37:31.519 what they decided to do is instead of have it 1:37:31.760 --> 1:37:34.360 in the gym like they usually do, we have a 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:37.360 pretty big gym, so it's not like that crowded. They 1:37:37.520 --> 1:37:41.840 decided to have us have it have it be a 1:37:41.920 --> 1:37:46.000 formal event, so like suit and kai event, but we 1:37:46.400 --> 1:37:50.000 are going to our local zoo to do it outside 1:37:50.080 --> 1:37:51.200 their rain or shine. 1:37:53.600 --> 1:37:54.840 You're having homecoming at the zoo. 1:37:57.000 --> 1:38:03.439 Yeah, Homecoming at the zoo okay, and I recently changed 1:38:03.479 --> 1:38:07.200 my mind about it. I was like, at first, I 1:38:07.360 --> 1:38:09.000 was like, I think this is a lot of other 1:38:09.080 --> 1:38:12.519 people who were in my grade as well. It was 1:38:12.600 --> 1:38:15.439 just like, oh, like hell, now, like that's so stupid, 1:38:15.600 --> 1:38:18.960 that's like what are they doing? What are they thinking? 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:22.160 But now I'm kind of like. 1:38:22.840 --> 1:38:31.639 See what's your name again, Grant? Grant? Here's my fear 1:38:32.280 --> 1:38:35.040 for you? Do you have a date? You have a 1:38:35.120 --> 1:38:35.720 date to home coming? 1:38:38.000 --> 1:38:38.760 I do not know. 1:38:39.479 --> 1:38:39.920 M hmm. 1:38:40.640 --> 1:38:43.840 Here's my fear for you is, let's say I don't know. 1:38:43.920 --> 1:38:45.479 Maybe maybe there's a girl you have a crush on, 1:38:46.520 --> 1:38:51.040 and you're you're and you go and you ask her 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:56.240 out Tom coming out the zoo and and she says, 1:38:56.240 --> 1:39:00.479 you know what, you seem like a sweet guy. Grant Grant? 1:39:00.800 --> 1:39:04.120 Right, Yeah, g r A n T. 1:39:04.600 --> 1:39:06.400 Grant. He said you seemed like a sweet guy. G 1:39:06.560 --> 1:39:09.519 r A n T. Why not? What the hell? 1:39:10.320 --> 1:39:10.439 You know? 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:13.920 Nobody else asked me. I'll go with you, sure, I 1:39:14.040 --> 1:39:15.080 might have a good time. I'll try to have a 1:39:15.120 --> 1:39:19.439 good time. You guys get there. Yeah, And on site, 1:39:20.920 --> 1:39:35.400 she locks eyes with a cheetah with chisels abs in 1:39:35.479 --> 1:39:41.000 a high level of charisma, speed, athleticism, a degree to 1:39:41.080 --> 1:39:45.760 which he literally physically could not match. And she goes, 1:39:46.320 --> 1:39:51.080 She turns to Grant, she says, hold on my minute, 1:39:51.080 --> 1:39:55.720 I gotta I gotta go to the bathroom. And then 1:39:56.360 --> 1:39:59.800 you know, half an hour passes something like that. You're like, 1:40:00.200 --> 1:40:06.040 where the hell dos you go? And then, uh, you 1:40:06.120 --> 1:40:12.080 know you maybe you go outside to smoke a cigarette. 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:15.240 I don't know, you're eighteen, you can do that outside. 1:40:15.280 --> 1:40:24.000 And you see her making out heavily with this cheetah, 1:40:24.840 --> 1:40:27.519 which is by the way, not only I mean because 1:40:27.520 --> 1:40:30.000 that's that's not only a sort of a physical attraction, 1:40:30.080 --> 1:40:32.880 that's a very emotional attraction too, because to make out 1:40:32.920 --> 1:40:39.639 with the cheetah requires a deep level of trust, because 1:40:39.680 --> 1:40:44.240 the cheetah could easily, you know, bite her face and 1:40:44.320 --> 1:40:48.519 rip it off, or a deep or a deep level 1:40:48.560 --> 1:40:51.240 of lust. Maybe maybe she's so attractive to the cheetah 1:40:51.280 --> 1:40:57.000 that that she's willing to risk it. And you feel 1:40:57.040 --> 1:40:58.800 heartbroken because you look at that, and you go, will 1:40:58.840 --> 1:41:03.760 anyone ever trust me the way that the way that 1:41:03.840 --> 1:41:04.679 she trust that cheetah. 1:41:08.920 --> 1:41:14.640 I think that is a valid fear. I like, like, 1:41:14.920 --> 1:41:17.439 I know, I can't run with it, like sixty five 1:41:17.479 --> 1:41:18.599 miles an hour, cheating. 1:41:18.439 --> 1:41:20.439 Torn or something like that. 1:41:20.920 --> 1:41:23.679 Bring it up to the principal. Tell them everything I said, 1:41:24.320 --> 1:41:27.519 because look, there's gonna be a lot of broken hearts 1:41:27.520 --> 1:41:37.439 that night. Yeah, you know, human people are just not 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:38.360 as sexy as. 1:41:40.280 --> 1:41:40.479 You know. 1:41:42.120 --> 1:41:43.759 Cheetahs, jeesus. 1:41:47.960 --> 1:41:53.799 If I'm being honest, I prefer I'll prefer another animal 1:41:54.000 --> 1:41:56.640 other than the cheetah. I don't know what animal that 1:41:56.840 --> 1:42:00.360 is yet, but I know it's had to do. And 1:42:00.479 --> 1:42:05.040 my my initial my initial thought is monkeys. 1:42:06.960 --> 1:42:09.160 Well, Grant, I thought that's something you should talk about 1:42:09.200 --> 1:42:09.800 in real therapy. 1:42:12.720 --> 1:42:15.320 H That's probably right because you're not a therapist. 1:42:16.800 --> 1:42:18.280 But thank you very much for calling. And I hope 1:42:18.320 --> 1:42:19.400 you have a wonder for us of the night. 1:42:21.000 --> 1:42:22.599 Thank you, thank you for listening. I hope I hope 1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:23.320 you have a great night too. 1:42:23.360 --> 1:42:27.000 While thank you, grand I know when that hot line 1:42:27.040 --> 1:42:30.080 ghak that it cannot. 1:42:33.160 --> 1:42:33.360 Hello. 1:42:34.360 --> 1:42:38.559 I know when the hot line it can only mean 1:42:38.640 --> 1:42:41.080 one thing. Did what rhymes with ghak. 1:42:43.479 --> 1:42:47.200 Uh mech deck shrek? 1:42:51.560 --> 1:42:51.720 Hello? 1:42:54.240 --> 1:43:01.000 So spec speck rhymes with ghak about Shrek Dick doesn't 1:43:01.040 --> 1:43:04.200 rhyme with dick. Shrek rhymes with ghek. But it wouldn't work, 1:43:04.520 --> 1:43:06.120 I know in the hotline. 1:43:05.720 --> 1:43:11.200 GEK, I yeah, that goes pretty well. 1:43:11.960 --> 1:43:15.519 Yeah, you know what who That's the real question I 1:43:15.560 --> 1:43:17.479 want to know is is you know I want to 1:43:17.520 --> 1:43:20.479 know from you like who cares about anything ever in life? 1:43:20.560 --> 1:43:20.720 You know? 1:43:21.439 --> 1:43:22.479 That's what I want to know from you. 1:43:23.439 --> 1:43:28.760 I mean, I mean, it depends what your priorities are. 1:43:28.840 --> 1:43:32.240 I guess because I guess something's really important to you, 1:43:32.400 --> 1:43:33.439 then you could. 1:43:33.280 --> 1:43:33.720 Care for you. 1:43:33.760 --> 1:43:38.240 You know, you told one of my two fine, shout 1:43:38.240 --> 1:43:39.880 out real by the way, I even shout out real quick, 1:43:39.880 --> 1:43:41.320 becase I don't know if I've given the shout out yet, 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:45.200 but shout out to K. Lizard and Tim shuts the door. 1:43:46.600 --> 1:43:49.519 They've been screening the phone calls tonight doing a wonderful job. 1:43:50.080 --> 1:43:51.920 Shout out to them. Shout out to them. You told. 1:43:51.920 --> 1:43:53.160 I don't know which one you talked to, but you 1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:58.160 told one of them that you need you are. You're 1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:02.840 a college man, you're educated, you're young, you're bright, your spry. 1:44:03.000 --> 1:44:05.479 Your brain is enormous. 1:44:08.720 --> 1:44:11.439 I mean, i'd say my brain could be a little 1:44:11.479 --> 1:44:16.320 smooth at times. I mean it has its ridges, but 1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:19.320 uh yeah, man, I'm going to college. It's going to 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:21.160 be a pretty interesting experience. 1:44:22.280 --> 1:44:22.639 Mm hmm. 1:44:23.040 --> 1:44:27.240 Okay, what's are you gonna? 1:44:27.320 --> 1:44:27.439 Uh? 1:44:29.600 --> 1:44:30.000 Have you ever? 1:44:30.520 --> 1:44:30.560 What? 1:44:32.040 --> 1:44:32.160 Uh? 1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:36.080 Let me ask you something, I mean deep down really 1:44:36.280 --> 1:44:37.920 like what you called in right? 1:44:40.000 --> 1:44:40.400 Mm hmm? 1:44:41.280 --> 1:44:41.320 What? 1:44:41.640 --> 1:44:41.800 How? 1:44:42.320 --> 1:44:42.840 What do you do? 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:45.680 You want something? Out of the What can I? What 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:46.960 can I do for you? That's why? 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:47.479 What can I? 1:44:47.720 --> 1:44:48.640 What can I do for you? 1:44:49.200 --> 1:44:49.600 What can I? 1:44:49.920 --> 1:44:53.120 What can a guy on the computer? What can I 1:44:53.600 --> 1:44:56.720 of the limited sort of resources that we have, of 1:44:56.840 --> 1:45:01.160 my limited you know, at personal education and life experience 1:45:01.680 --> 1:45:04.000 and the fact that we're a digital medium medium, I mean, 1:45:04.120 --> 1:45:07.479 just with what we've got, the situation we're in. How 1:45:07.760 --> 1:45:08.800 what can I do for you? 1:45:11.360 --> 1:45:11.559 Hmm? 1:45:12.439 --> 1:45:15.080 I mean you're a get go. I'm a geck and 1:45:15.160 --> 1:45:18.120 I get goo knows how to survive, and I'm trying 1:45:18.160 --> 1:45:20.000 to survive in college, but I know. 1:45:20.080 --> 1:45:22.160 How to survive to the age that I am. I'm 1:45:22.160 --> 1:45:24.360 sorry you were going you did exactly what I was 1:45:24.400 --> 1:45:25.920 trying to get you to do, and then I completely 1:45:25.960 --> 1:45:27.160 interrupted you. What were you saying? 1:45:29.439 --> 1:45:29.559 Uh? 1:45:29.880 --> 1:45:32.839 You know, I just need survival tips from the survivor 1:45:32.880 --> 1:45:35.200 man himself, the get go You. 1:45:35.280 --> 1:45:37.439 Need survival tips. Okay, what are you trying to survive? 1:45:40.080 --> 1:45:43.839 I mean, you know, I'm now a broke college students, 1:45:44.560 --> 1:45:47.760 so you know I need a survive you know, how 1:45:47.800 --> 1:45:48.439 to get food? 1:45:49.040 --> 1:45:49.200 You know? 1:45:49.640 --> 1:45:52.519 I just no, I just I feel like a rat 1:45:52.560 --> 1:45:54.360 scavenging for parts. 1:45:55.240 --> 1:45:57.000 You mean literally survive. 1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:01.800 Yes, or just metaphorically as well. 1:46:01.880 --> 1:46:05.960 You know, whether it's mental I mean metaphorically or literally? 1:46:06.040 --> 1:46:06.200 You know? 1:46:06.320 --> 1:46:11.439 Are you are you actually struggling to find food every day? 1:46:12.720 --> 1:46:12.880 Oh? 1:46:13.800 --> 1:46:14.519 Not every day? 1:46:14.720 --> 1:46:17.160 I mean it could be occasional, but it depends how 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:19.559 much I have in my wealthy you know, what are 1:46:19.560 --> 1:46:23.759 you going to school for mechanical engineering? 1:46:24.680 --> 1:46:25.599 Okay? Engineering? 1:46:31.040 --> 1:46:36.120 Well, here's the thing, and I went to school for film, 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:41.920 so mentally surviving going through film school super easy, like 1:46:42.000 --> 1:46:45.960 way easier than mechanical engineering, So you could do that. 1:46:46.040 --> 1:46:50.920 I mean, here's the thing. Is you chose, uh, I 1:46:51.040 --> 1:46:53.559 assume for good reasons. I don't know the reasons why 1:46:53.640 --> 1:46:55.880 you choose, Why you choose to do the things that 1:46:55.920 --> 1:46:58.559 you do in your life, because I don't. I mean, 1:46:58.560 --> 1:46:59.800 you can always tell me, but as of right now, 1:46:59.840 --> 1:47:04.640 I no, you chose to do something really hard mechanical engineering. 1:47:04.680 --> 1:47:07.120 I'd never do that's too hard, but you chose to 1:47:07.160 --> 1:47:08.160 do it. Why did you choose to do it. 1:47:11.040 --> 1:47:14.240 So I like taking things apart and I like putting 1:47:14.240 --> 1:47:18.439 them back together in new ways, whether it's cars or bikes, anything. 1:47:18.520 --> 1:47:22.280 Really, that's a wonderful reason. That's a wonderful reason. Okay, great. 1:47:22.560 --> 1:47:25.920 So you have chosen to do something because you like 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:28.600 doing it, and you've made that intentional choice, and you 1:47:28.680 --> 1:47:32.200 seem as though the choice, even though it leaves you 1:47:32.280 --> 1:47:38.439 in a state of struggle, was being made for intentional reasons. 1:47:38.479 --> 1:47:41.120 Your struggleing. No, I'm dead serious right now, your struggle 1:47:41.240 --> 1:47:44.120 is intentional. That's the most important part. 1:47:44.840 --> 1:47:48.000 Uh, I guess that's true. Yeah, it was made out 1:47:48.000 --> 1:47:49.799 of my own decisions exactly. 1:47:50.280 --> 1:47:54.520 That's the most important part. I think your struggles intentional. 1:47:54.800 --> 1:47:59.320 You chose to go to school for mechanical engineering and 1:47:59.400 --> 1:48:02.439 suffer because because it was important to you. You know, 1:48:03.360 --> 1:48:05.960 sufferings inherent, I think, and uh, you know, we get 1:48:06.000 --> 1:48:08.400 to choose how we suffer sometimes if you're lucky. 1:48:11.200 --> 1:48:11.599 That's right. 1:48:11.920 --> 1:48:14.680 Why did you choose film? Was it easier or did 1:48:14.760 --> 1:48:15.680 you have a passion in it? 1:48:16.880 --> 1:48:19.439 Why did I choose film? I think I don't know. 1:48:19.600 --> 1:48:21.040 That was just sort of if I went to college 1:48:21.080 --> 1:48:22.680 because it just felt like the next thing to do. 1:48:24.840 --> 1:48:34.719 But now an internet gecko guy. But enough about me. Okay, well, okay, 1:48:34.880 --> 1:48:36.320 did you eat? What did you eat today? What did 1:48:36.360 --> 1:48:36.880 you eat today? 1:48:39.120 --> 1:48:42.040 I'm gonna be straight up. I had two pieces of 1:48:42.120 --> 1:48:45.600 bread and then I put ham in the middle, and 1:48:45.680 --> 1:48:49.040 then I got another piece of bread, put cream cheese 1:48:49.320 --> 1:48:52.400 strawberry cream cheese in there, and then I had some 1:48:52.600 --> 1:48:55.480 flam I mean I got it off the safeway. 1:48:55.080 --> 1:48:59.519 But you know, some flam it stelling me right there. Yeah, 1:48:59.640 --> 1:49:01.880 flam like like the cake flan. 1:49:04.920 --> 1:49:06.840 I mean, I wouldn't consider it a cake. It's more 1:49:06.920 --> 1:49:07.680 like gelatinous. 1:49:08.200 --> 1:49:12.120 Yeah. Okay, look, dude, you're by the way, you don't 1:49:12.120 --> 1:49:13.160 have to be a shamed when you're talking to me 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:17.360 about this kind of shit I eat. I'll just I had, 1:49:17.600 --> 1:49:20.320 Actually I had a kind of similar. 1:49:21.439 --> 1:49:21.599 Thing. 1:49:21.720 --> 1:49:23.920 That's what I ate today. Is I ate two pieces 1:49:23.960 --> 1:49:26.760 of bread with ham and like some parmesan cheese on it, 1:49:26.840 --> 1:49:29.960 and then I just took another piece of bread, put 1:49:30.000 --> 1:49:32.280 a piece, put a couple pieces of turkey in it, 1:49:32.640 --> 1:49:35.160 sprinkled some mozzarella cheese on it, and then just folded 1:49:35.200 --> 1:49:37.519 it and ate it. And the dishes. It was like 1:49:38.000 --> 1:49:42.880 a sandwich and a half, all right, so you can 1:49:43.040 --> 1:49:46.439 afford bread, you can afford multiple pieces of bread. 1:49:48.600 --> 1:49:51.720 Yes, substance, well, temporary substance. 1:49:52.360 --> 1:49:59.120 Okay, okay, all substance is temporary. There's no such thing 1:49:59.160 --> 1:50:00.479 as permanent food. 1:50:03.280 --> 1:50:06.160 Unless you're a plant. Well no, no, never mind, I 1:50:06.240 --> 1:50:06.760 take that back. 1:50:09.080 --> 1:50:11.479 That would be very cost efficient though permanent food. 1:50:14.200 --> 1:50:14.640 It would be. 1:50:15.000 --> 1:50:17.040 Then you wouldn't have to worry about food. 1:50:17.760 --> 1:50:17.920 Yeah. 1:50:18.040 --> 1:50:20.640 Imagine if you could just eat a sandwich permanently. 1:50:23.439 --> 1:50:25.759 Man, I feel like you get tired of it really quickly, 1:50:26.400 --> 1:50:30.040 Like like you'd lose dopening from eating that. 1:50:30.240 --> 1:50:33.599 Like, I don't know, you wouldn't know. It's the exact opposite. 1:50:33.680 --> 1:50:35.840 You wouldn't lose you wouldn't get tired of it all 1:50:35.880 --> 1:50:37.120 because you only have to eat it once. 1:50:39.760 --> 1:50:42.920 Oh I thought you meant like consistently eating it. Oh okay, 1:50:43.000 --> 1:50:45.559 never mind. Yeah, so the sandwich would be pretty dope. 1:50:45.640 --> 1:50:45.800 Yeah. 1:50:48.520 --> 1:50:50.439 I actually think the opposite is quite tiring, having to 1:50:53.080 --> 1:50:57.400 scavenge for food all the time. 1:50:57.920 --> 1:51:00.960 Yeah, it's like you're a little ratt in the supers, 1:51:01.800 --> 1:51:04.200 just looking around trying to get what you can. 1:51:05.240 --> 1:51:06.880 You said you feel like a rat. You told me 1:51:06.920 --> 1:51:17.120 that earlier, Yeah, I do. Unfortunately, do you think that 1:51:17.200 --> 1:51:18.160 this will be your life forever. 1:51:21.280 --> 1:51:25.160 I mean, I actually it's temporary. I mean, life is suffering. 1:51:25.240 --> 1:51:29.560 But I wouldn't I mean, I wouldn't really put it 1:51:30.240 --> 1:51:32.880 like to say it's permanent. I mean, this is just 1:51:32.960 --> 1:51:34.120 going to be four years in my life. 1:51:35.160 --> 1:51:40.640 Yeah, what look for very intentional. 1:51:42.240 --> 1:51:44.280 Struggle field, Yes, very intentional years. 1:51:45.040 --> 1:51:46.840 That's the most part of that. Look, because here's the thing. 1:51:46.880 --> 1:51:49.840 Here's what you could have done. Is you could have actually, 1:51:49.840 --> 1:51:51.080 actually I don't know, I don't know what you could 1:51:51.080 --> 1:51:52.479 have done. I don't really know your life well enough 1:51:52.520 --> 1:51:54.840 to tell you what you could have done. But I 1:51:54.920 --> 1:51:56.880 mean I'm sure that maybe I actually I'm not sure. 1:51:56.880 --> 1:51:58.080 I don't know anything of your life. But you know, 1:51:58.120 --> 1:52:02.080 you could have pursued more comfortable options prob Maybe I 1:52:02.120 --> 1:52:08.759 don't know. You could have comfortable options, but you didn't. 1:52:08.840 --> 1:52:11.000 You chose a harder thing because it was important to you. 1:52:11.280 --> 1:52:15.120 So look, here's the thing. When you're eating shitty fucking 1:52:15.280 --> 1:52:20.680 sandwiches and scravenging for food and struggling, uh, let it 1:52:20.960 --> 1:52:24.599 let it be of some amount of condolence to you. Hopefully, 1:52:24.920 --> 1:52:27.679 Hopefully this can can get you through when the times 1:52:27.720 --> 1:52:29.680 are tough, to the to the light at the end 1:52:29.720 --> 1:52:31.720 of the tunnel in which the times are maybe a 1:52:31.760 --> 1:52:35.000 little less tough. Is the fact that you chose this struggle, 1:52:35.640 --> 1:52:38.479 you know, That's the thing. Revel in the autonomy of 1:52:39.520 --> 1:52:50.880 of the horrible situation that you are in until until, until, 1:52:51.560 --> 1:52:53.200 until you reach the light at the end of the 1:52:53.240 --> 1:52:57.799 tunnel where you get to be a mechanical engineer. 1:52:57.880 --> 1:53:02.840 Man, M exactly, Bro, you know, just four years and 1:53:02.880 --> 1:53:03.960 then after this I won't have to. 1:53:03.920 --> 1:53:04.439 Worry about it. 1:53:08.640 --> 1:53:11.000 Or you have a brand aneurysm, or you get cancer 1:53:11.080 --> 1:53:13.840 and die, or someone kills you, you get hit by 1:53:13.880 --> 1:53:16.880 a car. I mean, look, death, this is an ever 1:53:17.040 --> 1:53:25.120 present thing, you know, so joy enjoy life while it lasts. 1:53:26.040 --> 1:53:29.920 M hey man, Same for you, Man, you're the guy 1:53:30.040 --> 1:53:30.559 trick man. 1:53:31.200 --> 1:53:32.880 Thank you, Man. You have a the rest of the night, 1:53:34.960 --> 1:53:35.280 you too. 1:53:35.320 --> 1:53:40.559 Bro goes on the line, taking your phone calls every 1:53:40.680 --> 1:53:45.000 night ever, teaching your