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Speaker 1: An expert. Hey, this is Lyle again. Just before we start,
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Speaker 3: All right, Thanks, Hello, there we get go. Hey, how
Speaker 3: they're going, how are you, I'm great, thanks for taking
Speaker 3: my call anytime. So I'm calling because I got myself
Speaker 3: in a little bit of a predicament with a friend
Speaker 3: of mine and I wanted your advice as to how
Speaker 3: I should handle it. So if he's just moved to
Speaker 3: a new house. His house burned down last year in
Speaker 3: a fire, and they rebuilt a house, and so you know,
Speaker 3: it's obviously been a long time coming. So he wanted
Speaker 3: to have a big housewarming party.
Speaker 4: So he did.
Speaker 3: And it's this big, immaculate, too story house and it's
Speaker 3: got a big pool in the back, really decked out,
Speaker 3: so it's a fun party. I go and everyone's swimming
Speaker 3: and he's barbecuing and anyway, so long story shore, I
Speaker 3: have to go to the bathroom, so I go, I
Speaker 3: tell myself off, and I wait for the downstairs bathroom
Speaker 3: to be unoccupied. I wait and I wait, and someone's
Speaker 3: taken a long time. I have to go really bad,
Speaker 3: and it's not number one to be impolite about it.
Speaker 3: So I decide to take matters in my own hands,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I got to find a bathroom. I
Speaker 3: go upstairs to the part of the house that no
Speaker 3: one's really supposed to go, but it's an emergency. So
Speaker 3: I run and find the bathroom and go, and then
Speaker 3: I go to flush, and I realized that this bathroom
Speaker 3: isn't even like hooked up plumbing wise, like the water
Speaker 3: isn't hooked up. There's a toilet there, there's a sink there,
Speaker 3: but nothing's running, and I can't flush, and it's something
Speaker 3: that you probably you know, would like to flush. And
Speaker 3: so I panic. I don't know what to do, and
Speaker 3: there's nothing I can do. So I just abandoned ship.
Speaker 3: I look both ways when I leave, and I no
Speaker 3: one saw me, and I run downstairs and I rejoined
Speaker 3: the party. Anyways, skip ahead. They figure out about it,
Speaker 3: and there they ask me like.
Speaker 4: Oh you hear about what happened?
Speaker 2: Was that you and I?
Speaker 3: I denied it, but turns out they caught me on
Speaker 3: the ring camera upstairs, where like they're like they have
Speaker 3: a baby, and they caught me on camera.
Speaker 4: So I'm a little hosed now.
Speaker 1: And let me ask you sort of important question. When
Speaker 1: first interrogated about whether or not it was you that
Speaker 1: left a turd in their bathroom, did you lie?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I ball face flied to him. And you
Speaker 3: already knew.
Speaker 1: And how did you feel once the evidence was presented?
Speaker 3: No, I ashamed? Ashamed? I mean I I turned red
Speaker 3: and he was very like, yeah, dude, And I could
Speaker 3: tell how disappointed he was that I didn't come clean.
Speaker 3: Uh really bummed, And uh I didn't.
Speaker 5: I didn't think that.
Speaker 3: You know, if that happened to me, I probably brushed
Speaker 3: it under the rug and like I wouldn't embarrass someone
Speaker 3: and like confront them, and I felt so I when confronted,
Speaker 3: I just panicked. I didn't I didn't expect it.
Speaker 1: And were they upset with you? How do you feel
Speaker 1: like they felt?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty upset with me because apparently they had
Speaker 3: to like call a plumber and they thought I should
Speaker 3: have like, you know, offered to pay for it.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, I ultimately did. I and I worked
Speaker 3: over like it was like one hundred bucks or something.
Speaker 1: Really it's only one hundred bucks to unclog a toilet.
Speaker 1: That actually seems kind of high.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like it wasn't necessarily clogged. It was
Speaker 3: it was that they had, you know, remove what was
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 6: And you know, if you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean, you're telling me there's a guy or
Speaker 1: a girl or a company that you can just pay
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars to.
Speaker 7: Do?
Speaker 1: You think if you do, you think the same the
Speaker 1: same company. Like, if you just took a ship in
Speaker 1: the middle of your floor, could you call them and
Speaker 1: for one hundred dollars they would they would just take
Speaker 1: it and clean it up? Well, do you think they
Speaker 1: would only do it it's.
Speaker 8: On a toilet?
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Say what you want about capitalists, you know America or
Speaker 3: you know what Western nations, But you could pay someone
Speaker 3: a sum of money to do pretty much anything.
Speaker 1: Do you have any further plans on top of reimbursing
Speaker 1: them for the cleanup fees to make it up to them.
Speaker 3: I feel like I should just let the I should
Speaker 3: just like drift away, you know, like slowly stop seeing
Speaker 3: them as a friend, just like they I wasn't that
Speaker 3: close for them to begin with. And this seems like
Speaker 3: I gotta know how I can recover. You guys are
Speaker 3: paying for it, and you know, yeah, yeah, I I
Speaker 3: a couple of other friends, all.
Speaker 1: Right, So some of that bad you can afford to lose.
Speaker 1: A few friends.
Speaker 3: Can't cut the fat.
Speaker 1: Thank yous much for sharing.
Speaker 9: No Matt below.
Speaker 1: Geck Matt, it's you and me.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 1: Look, fuck, I know everyone's always like, oh, there's all
Speaker 1: these people. Look forget about the people watching, Matt. It's
Speaker 1: all about it's about nothing like you know, we got
Speaker 1: to embrace that, Matt Man.
Speaker 3: I'm alone in my dorm right now. It's just doing me.
Speaker 3: We're just talking, all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's all right? You're alone in your dorm. That's
Speaker 1: that's there's something there, there's something there. Why you know,
Speaker 1: tell me.
Speaker 4: I found you.
Speaker 3: I was at the gym at my school and I
Speaker 3: get recommended your podcast. I'm just in love with what
Speaker 3: you're doing, and I was wondering if you had any
Speaker 3: question for me.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of questions for you. Are you
Speaker 1: alone in your dorm room? How does that make you feel?
Speaker 1: Do you wish you were somewhere else? Or do you
Speaker 1: enjoy where you are right now?
Speaker 3: Well, well, I'm definitely introverted, so I like to have
Speaker 3: my alone time. Yeah, you know so, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 3: too upset at the moment, just relaxing.
Speaker 1: Okay, what what do you study in school?
Speaker 3: Engineering?
Speaker 1: Engineering? Everyone studies engineering these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, industrial engineering, so not as much involved
Speaker 3: with the physics and all that more about math and
Speaker 3: statistics and optimizing thinks sounds well, philosophy comedy podcast is
Speaker 3: just what I needed to, you know, balance out everything?
Speaker 1: Cool? Cool? Have you or have you been doing too
Speaker 1: many even crunching too many numbers? Is it getting to you?
Speaker 5: It is?
Speaker 3: But you know it's only the third week of the semester.
Speaker 1: So so so bittering? Is it's gonna get worse?
Speaker 3: Yeah? You know, I'm getting into my uh, into my routine.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Okay you freshman, No, I'm a junior. Okay, okay, so
Speaker 1: you so you've already you're you're getting into your team,
Speaker 1: but you already sort of have had a routine for
Speaker 1: at least a few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's in person, you know. So I
Speaker 3: can't like, you know, I have to not wear underwear
Speaker 3: to class only you know, or I have to care
Speaker 3: about how I present myself because I'm not just on
Speaker 3: a zoom call with no camera.
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 1: Do you dress? Do you dress nice?
Speaker 3: I just dressed to be confident in myself. I don't,
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't. I'm not buying it crazy
Speaker 3: clothes or anything.
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you wearing?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Now I'm wearing basketball shorts and a T shirt. That's
Speaker 3: what I've been.
Speaker 4: Wearing for two years.
Speaker 3: That's a quarantine outfit.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you how long? What's the longest you've
Speaker 1: you've worn an article of clothing consecutively without washing it?
Speaker 3: God damn, Probably be honest with me, Okay, are you
Speaker 3: an article of clothing? Because you can get like three
Speaker 3: or four.
Speaker 9: Wears out of a pair of jeans, three or four,
Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I am Oh, no, okay, probably I
Speaker 9: woar a shirt for four days straight.
Speaker 3: That's probably it.
Speaker 1: Nice?
Speaker 3: Nice, But I felt like a.
Speaker 4: Piece of shit.
Speaker 3: So I haven't done that again.
Speaker 1: No, Well, look, I mean, if it makes you feel
Speaker 1: any better, I've gone through like I've. I mean I've
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this as a joke. I've worn
Speaker 1: the same shirt and pant combination for like weeks. Possibly
Speaker 1: there have been times in my life in which I've
Speaker 1: just woke up and put the same pair of the
Speaker 1: same shirt and the same path. It's sometimes the same
Speaker 1: underwear too. I wasn't gonna make.
Speaker 3: You're showering, but you clean yourself, but you decide, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to put on this stuff that reminds me
Speaker 3: of when I wasn't clean.
Speaker 1: It's more just like, you know, I think what it
Speaker 1: is for me at least, is that there's so many
Speaker 1: things and you know, I'm gonna get people, you know,
Speaker 1: I get I get hate on this all the time,
Speaker 1: but it's I think it's just how I feel. There's
Speaker 1: so many things in life that demand of you and
Speaker 1: I can't be bothered to do them. They you know,
Speaker 1: like eating food, brushing your teeth twice a day.
Speaker 11: I do it.
Speaker 1: I brush my teeth twice a day. Sometimes I don't
Speaker 1: do it at night, but I do it at least
Speaker 1: every morning.
Speaker 3: I think the entire population can relate to that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, taking showers, you have to make your bed,
Speaker 1: you gotta do the just it's just too demand. It's
Speaker 1: too demanding to like there's like there's like this standard
Speaker 1: of a correct way to exist, and it's it's just
Speaker 1: too much effort to meet the standard, so I just
Speaker 1: break so instead it's a life hack. You just bring
Speaker 1: your standard of living way down.
Speaker 3: And No, to be honest, I think I'm a I'm
Speaker 3: a slave to that mindset, Like I'm always thinking like, oh,
Speaker 3: what are people gonna think? Like, you know, I've yet
Speaker 3: to just you know, let it go and just wear
Speaker 3: that shirt again.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 1: Interesting you say you're a slaved in that mindset, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a powerful mindset. I had
Speaker 1: this moment when I went off to college. You know,
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, my mom, you know,
Speaker 1: had done my laundry and she had always like I
Speaker 1: had like a black sox and white sox, and you know,
Speaker 1: my mom would like take the socks and like, you know,
Speaker 1: pair the white sox with the black sox. And I
Speaker 1: was in you know, my dorm, and I was doing
Speaker 1: my laundry and I was putting away my socks, and
Speaker 1: I was and I just started mixing the white sox
Speaker 1: and the black socks, and I felt like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I felt like I was doing something wrong. But then
Speaker 1: I kind of realized, like, wait a minute, the idea
Speaker 1: that I have to pair the black socks with the
Speaker 1: white sox is illusion. I get to decide what matters
Speaker 1: to me in this life, and this is not something
Speaker 1: that does.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. That's that's you know, I'm waiting to have that breakthrough.
Speaker 3: I have not had that yet.
Speaker 1: It'll happen for you it'll happen for you. I believe
Speaker 1: in you.
Speaker 3: Well, thanks for talking, Grek, always question.
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure, of course, pleasure talking to you too.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the night and you're dark.
Speaker 12: You can.
Speaker 3: All from Emily.
Speaker 1: Emily.
Speaker 7: Hello, what's up?
Speaker 1: Emily?
Speaker 13: Oh my god?
Speaker 7: What's up?
Speaker 14: Grek?
Speaker 1: You know I'm chilling in this outer space? How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm doing good.
Speaker 13: I'm doing good. I cannot complain. I do not think
Speaker 13: this would happen. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: We spoke already, din Away, Emily, No, we did not.
Speaker 13: I trying in Wednesday and I cannot get through a dude.
Speaker 1: Like at all. This is the first time we're talking.
Speaker 4: Yes, it is sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's someone I'll be honest with you. Somebody called
Speaker 1: in it's like a week ago. Who has your exact
Speaker 1: same accent, and I thought.
Speaker 7: That was you.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 13: I mean I'm from the South, so I mean it's
Speaker 13: kind of country, but it's not okay.
Speaker 1: Would you would you consider yourself a country person?
Speaker 15: Absolutely not.
Speaker 7: I hate I hate it.
Speaker 1: You hate the South.
Speaker 13: I don't hate the South.
Speaker 7: I just.
Speaker 13: I don't like the mindset that a lot of people
Speaker 13: have down here.
Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, well I would describe that mindset.
Speaker 12: Well.
Speaker 13: So I live in a smaller town, and the small
Speaker 13: town mentality is really bad here, Like even with COVID.
Speaker 13: A lot of people think it's a hope, and I
Speaker 13: think it's a joke or you know. And I work
Speaker 13: in a doctor's office, so I see it all the
Speaker 13: time and I tell people, I'm like, listen, it's not
Speaker 13: a joke. It's not a joke at all, and they
Speaker 13: just they just think it's Oh, I don't have to
Speaker 13: wear a mask. I'm fine, And I hate it.
Speaker 12: I hate it so much.
Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about leaving the South and going
Speaker 1: to a new place?
Speaker 13: Well, I mean.
Speaker 7: I have, but.
Speaker 13: I have, like all my family is here, sure, and
Speaker 13: they live about like an hour away from me. So
Speaker 13: it's kind of it's more of I'm here because I
Speaker 13: have family, and I'm very close to my family.
Speaker 1: That's good. Who I mean, who in your family do
Speaker 1: you like?
Speaker 9: Well?
Speaker 13: I like my mom, cool, I did like my dad,
Speaker 13: but he passed away last month, so that's kind of
Speaker 13: that thugs, but I was close to him. Yeah, he
Speaker 13: passed from COVID. But like that's another thing that I get,
Speaker 13: like really round up about it.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, I like my.
Speaker 13: Parents, I like my siblings.
Speaker 5: Close.
Speaker 13: It's just we just have that family dynamic where who
Speaker 13: are just close. I'm not really close to any of
Speaker 13: my other family, but more of the intimate, intimate family
Speaker 13: is I hold it close.
Speaker 8: To my heart.
Speaker 1: I personally, I've always felt as though the extended family
Speaker 1: is overrated.
Speaker 12: You know, it is it is.
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna lie. I I agree with you, Greg.
Speaker 1: You got your mom, you got your you got your parents,
Speaker 1: you got your siblings. You know, keep keep keep the
Speaker 1: circle tight exactly.
Speaker 13: Because at the end of the day, I have a
Speaker 13: lot more friends doct to their family than my actual family.
Speaker 13: So it's you learn. The older you get, the more
Speaker 13: I realize that family sucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah I used to. I've never liked I never liked
Speaker 1: the convention that like you have to you have to
Speaker 1: Why do I either, you like, have to love your
Speaker 1: extended family? Yeah, you know, I mean it's kind of weird, right,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like I like, for example, you know,
Speaker 1: I see my grandma maybe once a year, you know,
Speaker 1: on the holidays. I'm supposed to love her. I don't
Speaker 1: have that. Yeah, yeah, well I don't even I don't
Speaker 1: I barely know the woman, you know exactly.
Speaker 10: I have like.
Speaker 13: Cousins and aunts and uncles that I see maybe once
Speaker 13: every couple of years, and I'm.
Speaker 7: Like, oh, then I love you, and I'm like, it's cool.
Speaker 13: I don't really love you. I don't have a relationship,
Speaker 13: you know. But I think from being from the South,
Speaker 13: it's a mindset where everybody is family.
Speaker 1: And they're just like, no, it's not Yeah, dude, I
Speaker 1: love that keeper. Yeah dude, you don't. You don't have
Speaker 1: I don't like these these mindsets. This goes back with
Speaker 1: the socks thing. You know, these ideas of societal norms.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to love your grandparents, you have
Speaker 1: to match your socks. You don't have to do anything.
Speaker 13: That's not thing I get made fun of because I
Speaker 13: wear Mitch Max Stalk every day. I don't care, Like,
Speaker 13: what's the point. Nobody's want to see my socks and
Speaker 13: my shoes. I'm not taking my shoes off. And she's like, hey, look,
Speaker 13: I'm wearing matching socks. I don't careful wearing a Christmas
Speaker 13: sock and and a Haioween socks. What does it sucking matter?
Speaker 16: It doesn't.
Speaker 1: You're living your life the right way, Emily.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 13: I just go through life like it is what it is, dude.
Speaker 5: I'm just living well.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for calling.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 7: You're welcome, gig.
Speaker 13: You have a great evening, Dude.
Speaker 1: I'll fucking try. Thank you, Emily.
Speaker 5: All right, by dude, Emily, Hello.
Speaker 1: How many people are you with?
Speaker 5: Four people?
Speaker 1: What's your relationship to them?
Speaker 5: My wife is here, my best friend that I've known
Speaker 5: for fifteen years, easily, and his wife's here. I was
Speaker 5: just curious should we have an orgy?
Speaker 1: Should you have an orgy? Repeat? The people that are
Speaker 1: here again?
Speaker 5: My wife that I've known for fifteen years, my best
Speaker 5: friend that I've known for fifteen years, yeah, like quick,
Speaker 5: eighteen years, yourself and his wife that he's been with
Speaker 5: for six years, six years? Okay? You we are drinking heavily, okay?
Speaker 5: And should we have an orgy?
Speaker 1: So it's you, your wife, your friend, your best friend,
Speaker 1: and your best friend's wife. Who's who's the fourth person?
Speaker 1: Or is it four people total? Including you?
Speaker 5: It's four people including me.
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever had an orgy before?
Speaker 12: We have?
Speaker 1: Not? Let me talk to your wife? Oh hi, hi,
Speaker 1: what do you think about what?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 1: Your your husband wants to have an orgy?
Speaker 16: What do you?
Speaker 12: What do you?
Speaker 1: What is your opinion on this?
Speaker 14: I mean I think I was the instigator, You were
Speaker 14: the interest to.
Speaker 1: Get Okay, so it was your idea? Yeah, okay, Now
Speaker 1: what is it about having an orgy that is appealing
Speaker 1: to you right now?
Speaker 17: I don't know. He's the only guy I haven't remem.
Speaker 1: So your husband is the only guy you've ever been with?
Speaker 17: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you interested in being with with both? How close
Speaker 1: are you with with your husband's friend and his wife? Yeah?
Speaker 5: How close are you? How are you now? How good
Speaker 5: and how close are you with?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 7: We're we're really close. We just never see each other.
Speaker 5: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, So so this this is sort of a fleeting
Speaker 1: opportunity because of how rare it is that you've see Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let me talk to your husband's friend.
Speaker 5: How much.
Speaker 7: You're on?
Speaker 5: Hello, I'm the friend.
Speaker 1: How are you? What were you feeling about the sort
Speaker 1: of gauging the temperature of the room here before I
Speaker 1: I sort of give you know my thoughts?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 1: How are you? How are you? How are you feeling
Speaker 1: about the the prospect of have sex with not only
Speaker 1: your wife but your friend's wife, and and also your
Speaker 1: your friend, uh.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Okay, obviously encounter here.
Speaker 1: Listen, talk what's what's your name? What's your name?
Speaker 8: Elliott?
Speaker 1: Elliott? Talk me through your thought process of the pros
Speaker 1: and the cons and and you know, I can tell that,
Speaker 1: you know, I can tell that.
Speaker 5: I seem no pros or cons I see, I say,
Speaker 5: see pros a okay, my benefit.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you only se pros of your benefit. But
Speaker 1: but yet you you remain unsure or is that not
Speaker 1: the case?
Speaker 5: His wife had made me unsure about this?
Speaker 1: Okay? Why why is his wife making you unsure?
Speaker 5: Because he thinks it's going to destroy me and his friendship.
Speaker 5: And I already told her, which we're not bros. But
Speaker 5: I did say it broke before host, okay. And he's
Speaker 5: the one that's really excited on there.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm surely curious if your what's your friend's name?
Speaker 5: David?
Speaker 1: So if David is, and David, by the way, seems
Speaker 1: I know that it wasn't even his idea, but he
Speaker 1: seems easily the most excited about this. If he believes
Speaker 1: if he's so excited about it, what then what what
Speaker 1: makes you believe that it will ruin your friendship.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 5: It's not that it's his wife thinks it's going to
Speaker 5: ruin me and his friendship.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so his wife thinks it's good. But it
Speaker 1: was her idea.
Speaker 5: No, it wasn't her idea, but she was down when
Speaker 5: he mentioned it.
Speaker 1: She told me that it was her idea and that
Speaker 1: she is that he joked.
Speaker 5: Someone.
Speaker 1: Let me tie, Let me talk to your wife. Your
Speaker 1: wife name, her name is Ella, bud Ella. You hear me, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can hear you. What's your name?
Speaker 5: Tabby, Gabby, Tabitha.
Speaker 1: I thought your name was Ella, and it was like
Speaker 1: Elliot and Ella, and I was going to say that
Speaker 1: that's a weird Elliot.
Speaker 7: That'd be weird if I if I, if I got
Speaker 7: with a guy whose name was like mine, that would.
Speaker 12: Just cause more problems and solutions.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Okay, So Gabby, you said your.
Speaker 4: Name was.
Speaker 7: No, not Gabby, Tabby like a cat tea isn't tom Abby.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna present sort of all the information that
Speaker 1: I've sort of gathered and see what your what your
Speaker 1: thoughts on. Apparently the situation is that and this is
Speaker 1: just for what I've been telling I'm hearing conflict stories. Now,
Speaker 1: Apparently David's wife instigated the idea of an orgy, and
Speaker 1: this excited David, and Elliott's is also interested in the idea,
Speaker 1: but is possibly slightly worried that it will have some
Speaker 1: sort of effect on his and David's friendship. And I'm
Speaker 1: sort of curious what your thoughts.
Speaker 5: Are on that.
Speaker 7: All right, So let me give you a little bit
Speaker 7: of background here, Bud.
Speaker 1: Sure, So.
Speaker 7: These three all know each other, they all grew up together.
Speaker 14: I did not grow up with these people.
Speaker 7: This is my first time meeting David and his wife.
Speaker 7: We came out for vacations. I've never met these people.
Speaker 7: Wonderful people, glorious people. I consider them family by now, how.
Speaker 1: I've never met any of these people before.
Speaker 7: First, I'm nope, nope, just Elliott.
Speaker 1: Continue.
Speaker 7: So I've never met a never met and I've talked
Speaker 7: to them on the phone, but I've never met them
Speaker 7: in person. We lived very far away from each other,
Speaker 7: and we took vacation to come out and see them.
Speaker 5: Got it.
Speaker 7: But uh, this is the first time hearing about this
Speaker 7: orgy idea. I didn't realize that this was an option.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize that this was something to be brought up.
Speaker 7: So I'm blindsided just as much as you are.
Speaker 12: Friends.
Speaker 1: So and so you're just hearing it out from me.
Speaker 7: Well I'm hearing it from the room.
Speaker 1: From the room, okay. And and you know, I know
Speaker 1: that you're blind sided, possibly experiencing some maybe level of
Speaker 1: of shock, not knowing that this this this was an option.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've had the time to
Speaker 1: to think about it more in depth, but yeah, to
Speaker 1: process and and and if you have, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you have, because because because it is still a
Speaker 1: fresh idea. What what what are your thoughts and feelings?
Speaker 7: I mean, well, obviously also I worry about the impact
Speaker 7: that's going to have on our friendships. However, that being said,
Speaker 7: we don't this is the first time I'm meeting them.
Speaker 7: We might not see them for another year, so like,
Speaker 7: what's the worst that can happen? Also, though we have
Speaker 7: never dabbled in this territory, my husband and I, so
Speaker 7: I don't even know how to go about this. So
Speaker 7: maybe if you have some insight on how you instigate
Speaker 7: an orgy, like things you can say, candles to light,
Speaker 7: maybe certain music that set the mood to put people's
Speaker 7: minds at ease.
Speaker 1: Well, of course, Look, I mean, here's the thing, here's
Speaker 1: here's here's my here's my genuine thoughts. Is all all
Speaker 1: four of you, all four alcohol from all four of you.
Speaker 1: From what I've gathered over the course of my conversation
Speaker 1: with all of you, seem like very open minded people,
Speaker 1: very open people. This this conversation is happening, you know,
Speaker 1: in plain view, it's happening very openly, and everyone seems
Speaker 1: to be on board. And I think, look, that's the
Speaker 1: most important thing is that everyone's on board. Everyone's committed
Speaker 1: to the idea obvious. And once, once, once that's established,
Speaker 1: once any sort of possible issues are brought to the
Speaker 1: table and resolved, I mean, you guys can just sort
Speaker 1: of go wild and start fucking and sucking each other.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 7: Let me ask you, though, in your personal life, have
Speaker 7: you ever had a multiple partner experience? I can ask
Speaker 7: him questions. I'm asking him for his advice. I want
Speaker 7: to know if he has any background on.
Speaker 5: The advice he's giving.
Speaker 8: I'm not being agreed.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you how do you feel right now?
Speaker 1: What is the room?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 5: Actually back to date, Fine, yo.
Speaker 1: All right, So, David, after having discussed it with with
Speaker 1: every party involved, I mean everyone, everyone seems on board.
Speaker 1: I think you're definitely on board. Your wife instigated the idea,
Speaker 1: so I assume she's on board. Elliott seems on board.
Speaker 1: Cabby was it Tabby or Cabby?
Speaker 5: Cabby with a T.
Speaker 1: Cabby seems kind of down. I mean, I would confirm
Speaker 1: it with everyone first, but I mean, look, here's the
Speaker 1: here's the truth of the matter. I'm not involved.
Speaker 5: Have you ever done it? I know you're not involved,
Speaker 5: but have you ever done something like this?
Speaker 6: What did you say?
Speaker 10: Name was again, David, listen, call back next week and
Speaker 10: let me know how it was all from Sydney, Sydney.
Speaker 1: Hi, how the hell are you doing, Sydney?
Speaker 13: What's up?
Speaker 18: I'm doing good. How the hell are you?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 1: I'm a gecko. I'm floating around in the sky. I'm
Speaker 1: on the internet talking to strangers on the phone. Sydney.
Speaker 1: It's everything, it's nothing. We're together in this moment digitally
Speaker 1: on the internet. You know, there's no expectations. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you know, Sydney. It's so crazy. After all
Speaker 1: these words that we've all said, not just me, not
Speaker 1: just you, but they're out all of human history. I mean, Sidney,
Speaker 1: is there anything even left to say of all the
Speaker 1: after all these years and all these words that are
Speaker 1: said and done.
Speaker 18: Absolutely not. I'm less, completely speechless. There are no words
Speaker 18: left to be said at all.
Speaker 1: I was about to say that that's a problem, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. Maybe we maybe maybe we should just
Speaker 1: start to accept certain things that we that we ultimately
Speaker 1: know to be true, like the fact that there are
Speaker 1: no words. There are no more words to be said,
Speaker 1: but we can repeat some of the words that have
Speaker 1: already been said, just for fun, for a nostalgia's sense.
Speaker 18: What do you think, I concur I agree.
Speaker 1: What's your talent?
Speaker 18: I am a painter. I love to paint. I like
Speaker 18: to think you're pretty good at it. Yeah, that's my talent.
Speaker 1: What do you paint.
Speaker 12: Portraits?
Speaker 18: I love painting people faces things. I'm really bad at finishing.
Speaker 18: Like I feel like I'm one of those people that
Speaker 18: like get halfway through their painting, but like it's kind
Speaker 18: of my thing. Like if I look at my wall
Speaker 18: right now, I have like at least three paintings that
Speaker 18: are like unfinished, but just enough that like it's cool
Speaker 18: that they're unfinished.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, you know what. By the way,
Speaker 1: you are a perfect example of one of my favorite concepts,
Speaker 1: which is turning weaknesses into strengths, which is good to
Speaker 1: do in arts because it's so subjective. You're taking the
Speaker 1: fact that you don't know how to finish or that
Speaker 1: you rarely are able to finish your paint things, and
Speaker 1: turning it into a intentional artistic decision. Thank you, And
Speaker 1: you're presenting it as an intentional artistic decision.
Speaker 18: Yes, exactly, You're so smart.
Speaker 1: That's smart. That's smart you.
Speaker 18: But yeah, I think painting is kind of underrated. I
Speaker 18: feel like it was kind of on and pop in
Speaker 18: and like the Renaissance, but like I feel like nowadays
Speaker 18: a lot of people are scared to become artists.
Speaker 1: Really are you?
Speaker 18: Why do you think they're scared, because I'm also scared
Speaker 18: to become an artist.
Speaker 1: You are an artist?
Speaker 13: Well, I mean yeah, But like.
Speaker 18: I want to go, Like I'm kind of torn between.
Speaker 18: So I'm in the process of like applying to college
Speaker 18: and like a lot of times I'm like, damn, like
Speaker 18: what do I want to do?
Speaker 7: Like do I want to go to art school?
Speaker 13: Do I not?
Speaker 18: And like a lot of people would try to talk
Speaker 18: to me out of like art school because it's kind
Speaker 18: of like a waste of money in a lot of
Speaker 18: people's eyes, so it's really discouraging.
Speaker 1: See, Okay, here's my opinion, and if you want it,
Speaker 1: pursuing pursuing a career in the arts is not even
Speaker 1: kind of a waste of time, you know. And there
Speaker 1: and and also by the way, financially invest by the way,
Speaker 1: financially investing in a career in the arts is not
Speaker 1: a waste of money. But there, keep in mind there
Speaker 1: are many different ways to financially invest in a career
Speaker 1: in the arts than just going to arts school. Does
Speaker 1: that make sense?
Speaker 18: Yes, Because like again I was like, why would I
Speaker 18: waste so much money? Not waste money, but spend money
Speaker 18: and be taught and criticize stuff that I already.
Speaker 7: Know how to do.
Speaker 18: You know, Like that's also an argument that I have
Speaker 18: about myself, because like I could just like free lance
Speaker 18: or like sell art whenever, why do I need to
Speaker 18: go to school to do it? Because then I thought
Speaker 18: like maybe getting like some sort of education like certification
Speaker 18: would be good, because education is like that's never gonna die.
Speaker 18: Everybody always wants to learn, so it's like I'll always
Speaker 18: have a backup if I don't make it. Like selling
Speaker 18: art privately, I could be like an art teacher.
Speaker 1: Do you how do you sell art now? Do you
Speaker 1: use the TikTok and the.
Speaker 18: Inst I'm trying to get into it. I have like
Speaker 18: Instagram for my paintings, but it's it's mainly local stuff.
Speaker 18: Like my mom is like one of my biggest fans,
Speaker 18: always like tells everybody my daughter. She's an artist, she paints,
Speaker 18: she does this, and she's like my like Mamager. I
Speaker 18: love her very much. Shout out to my mom.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, you know, I I I as a fan
Speaker 1: as as just because you're such a case study of
Speaker 1: turning the weakness into the strength via your signature unfinished paintings.
Speaker 1: I hope that you succeed because that will inspire me
Speaker 1: in my own, you know, in presenting my you know,
Speaker 1: laziness as as an intentional decision in the things that
Speaker 1: I do as well.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 18: I appreciate that there's no crime in being easy at all.
Speaker 18: I feel like if I feel like, if you feel
Speaker 18: like being lazy is what's best for you in the moment,
Speaker 18: then you.
Speaker 12: Do what's best for you.
Speaker 1: Gak what did you say? Her name was Sydney, Sydney.
Speaker 1: Good luck to you.
Speaker 18: Thank you so much, Jack, I love you.
Speaker 1: How are you.
Speaker 6: Not doing too bad about yourself?
Speaker 1: I'm chilling. I'm doing all right, you know. I it's
Speaker 1: been some good calls today, you know, trying to stay
Speaker 1: in the groove. Yeah, I agree, it's chilling. I'm just
Speaker 1: a hanging. I'm just chilling, man. Honestly, I'm just having
Speaker 1: a good time.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 1: So life's alid doubts, just fucking you.
Speaker 6: I couldn't agree, And yeah, no I do. I totally agree.
Speaker 6: I guess I should ask do you prefer going by
Speaker 6: Lyle or I'd rather I'd rather address you man.
Speaker 1: Look, you can call me whatever you want. Man, These
Speaker 1: just labels. Man, I'm I'm just a guy. It's a
Speaker 1: Gecko guy, you know. Come on, man, it's all good.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, you know you're not wrong.
Speaker 7: On no.
Speaker 6: So I guess I appreciate you taking the call first
Speaker 6: and foremost. And I guess i'll just lay it out
Speaker 6: for you. Two. Uh, single father And that was in
Speaker 6: a five year relationship with somebody whom I lived with.
Speaker 6: And I'm just getting real bad mixed signals. I guess
Speaker 6: where she tells me one thing, but her actions speak another.
Speaker 6: And this has been going on for probably a year
Speaker 6: and a half now, and I just need to know
Speaker 6: from a neutral standpoint. You know, if you have any
Speaker 6: personal experiences with then a get go relationships. You know
Speaker 6: what I should do for myself or what I should
Speaker 6: try to do for myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you are telling me that you are in
Speaker 1: a you are currently in a relationship with this person.
Speaker 1: You were in a relationship with this person. You said
Speaker 1: you have You said you're twenty two and you have
Speaker 1: a kid. How old is the kid.
Speaker 6: I had when I was sixteen? Believe it or not,
Speaker 6: he is six Okay, I'll be turning twenty three next
Speaker 6: week if that matters.
Speaker 1: Happy fucking birthday, dude, I appreciate it. And uh, and
Speaker 1: so what's the deal with with with this woman? She's
Speaker 1: your chai? Are you with her? Is she your child's.
Speaker 5: No, this is mother.
Speaker 6: So after a child was born, No, not my child's mother,
Speaker 6: but my child does see her as a mother, if
Speaker 6: that makes sense. I was with her for five years.
Speaker 6: And because the relationship with my child's mother ended quickly
Speaker 6: after he was born, I did everything I could to
Speaker 6: make it work, but it didn't. It is what it is.
Speaker 6: And yeah, no, we actually have a I would say
Speaker 6: a good relationship now and everybody liked each other. Yeah no,
Speaker 6: I actually fought in court and thankfully I had a
Speaker 6: good support system where you know, I was able to
Speaker 6: fund uh court fees through high school and I fought
Speaker 6: for a good two and a half three years for
Speaker 6: joint legal physical custody.
Speaker 1: M okay.
Speaker 6: And the only reason I guess I point that fact
Speaker 6: out is because I guess by now X she was
Speaker 6: with me throughout that time and helped support me, because
Speaker 6: you know, that's quite a difficult thing to do, especially
Speaker 6: as you know, a teenager.
Speaker 1: Right, all right, So so oh, okay, so you have
Speaker 1: sort of split custody with the kids, with the kid
Speaker 1: with uh uh with the kid's mother who you have
Speaker 1: a good relationship with. And then, okay, tell me about
Speaker 1: this person that you say you have a toxic relationship with.
Speaker 6: Well, I think she's a great person. She challenges me,
Speaker 6: like mentally, like when we have conversations and I think,
Speaker 6: you know, we don't flash so to say, but you know,
Speaker 6: we see each other's point of view, and I don't
Speaker 6: want to say it's so much toxic, but I guess, well, no,
Speaker 6: I guess it is toxic if you really think about it.
Speaker 6: But it hasn't always been. We lived together up until
Speaker 6: COVID hit. I was a I worked in a hospital.
Speaker 6: I won't specify really what I did, but I worked
Speaker 6: at clinical position in a hospital that was there when
Speaker 6: COVID all first started. And unfortunately for myself my family,
Speaker 6: at the time, I was helping take care of my
Speaker 6: grandmother who had cancer. So I decided to leave my
Speaker 6: position at the hospital so I could do that more effectively.
Speaker 6: So then I was out of a job, and then
Speaker 6: she in turn lost her job, and we had lost
Speaker 6: our house after that and had to move back in
Speaker 6: with my parents.
Speaker 1: So why is this, why is this a toxic relationship?
Speaker 6: For right now, it's been about a over a year
Speaker 6: and she gives me verbal communication that she doesn't want anything,
Speaker 6: but then she still comes over. She will spend the
Speaker 6: night and we'll you know, do our college homework together.
Speaker 6: We'll get dinner, we'll see movies. She still is around
Speaker 6: my kid occasionally, and it's it's to like doing everything
Speaker 6: that you would do in a relationship without actually being
Speaker 6: in a relationship.
Speaker 1: You're saying this as if she's like doing these things
Speaker 1: against your will.
Speaker 6: No, No, she's not. I don't take it that way.
Speaker 6: That's not what I mean by that. I mean I
Speaker 6: enjoy it, like I enjoy her genuinely as a person, right, Okay,
Speaker 6: like I think in general? Yeah, no, nothing nothing, you know?
Speaker 1: And then what that is your what is? What is
Speaker 1: your issue?
Speaker 12: What is?
Speaker 1: Why? Why do you claim that she's being toxic?
Speaker 6: Because she'll tell me, like I said, she'll tell me
Speaker 6: one thing, like I'm trying to think of the good examples,
Speaker 6: will tell me, you know, she doesn't want a relationship
Speaker 6: right now, and I try to respect that, and I
Speaker 6: try to respect that boundary. But you know, we'll go home.
Speaker 6: They'll have to will be like over dinner, right because
Speaker 6: she asked to go to dinner, or I had asked
Speaker 6: to go to dinner. Because you know, I'm guilty of
Speaker 6: that too. I'm not gonna lie. I'm trying to lay
Speaker 6: all the shape.
Speaker 1: So all right, So here's here's what I'm hearing is
Speaker 1: that this girl has told you a bunch of times
Speaker 1: that she doesn't want a relationship, but you guys are
Speaker 1: still doing relationship things, and that's bothering you because she's
Speaker 1: being unclear, and don't put don't put up with that.
Speaker 1: I I people have called in about that. I hate
Speaker 1: that stuff. Don't put up with that, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's not good for anybody, you know, Just don't don't
Speaker 1: don't don't put up with that. Like if you're gonna
Speaker 1: if you look, if you guys are gonna hang out
Speaker 1: and be friends, like hang out and be friends, you know,
Speaker 1: if you guys are gonna be in a relationship, be
Speaker 1: in a relationship, don't do this thing that's gonna just
Speaker 1: fuck with both of you where you're like on the
Speaker 1: fence about things. And I get that it's complicated, you know,
Speaker 1: but just like what do you what are you living
Speaker 1: in limbo for?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 1: I mean also if she doesn't want if she's telling
Speaker 1: you that she doesn't want a relationship, and you say
Speaker 1: that you want to respect that, then like, look, you know,
Speaker 1: if she says like, hey, do you want to like
Speaker 1: hang out and sleep when she next time she's like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I come over and sleep with you in your bed?
Speaker 1: Be like, hey, you know, I I love you, I
Speaker 1: really do. But if we're not going to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship. You know, I can't do relationship be kind
Speaker 1: of things with you like that, you know, you got
Speaker 1: I think you gotta be firm about that, you know,
Speaker 1: or else.
Speaker 4: You know, I gotcha.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, And I think I struggle with that, and
Speaker 6: I acknowledge it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard because what you're really what what
Speaker 1: you're really sort of being tasked with here is like
Speaker 1: being honest about how you feel, you know, and straight
Speaker 1: out and being honest about how you feel is really hard,
Speaker 1: understandably so, but it's it's.
Speaker 6: A child in the equation is just a lot harder
Speaker 6: because you know, like I said before, my my kid
Speaker 6: sees her as like a mother, and it just complicates
Speaker 6: things so much more. And like I've been trying to
Speaker 6: do better as a father, you know, between work and
Speaker 6: my college studies. You know, I'm trying to do my
Speaker 6: best there and put him first, you know, because as
Speaker 6: you do with a child, And like part of me
Speaker 6: in the back of my head just kind of chirps
Speaker 6: at me because he's always asking about her, Like even now,
Speaker 6: like he you know, we his mother, and I got
Speaker 6: him like a cell phone. He's like he talks to
Speaker 6: her on the phone.
Speaker 1: He talks to her on the fext her. Yeah, how
Speaker 1: old to see You said he was five.
Speaker 6: He's six, he'll be turning seven. We got him just
Speaker 6: like a cell phone, like an old cell phone, just.
Speaker 1: An old cell phone. I couldn't even use an old
Speaker 1: cell phone, you mean want like the fucking flip phone
Speaker 1: where every like word that you no, no, it fucking.
Speaker 6: It's it's to be. But it's an old iPhone, to
Speaker 6: be clear. He uses the He can text small words
Speaker 6: like high by stuff, but he mostly uses like the
Speaker 6: voice chat, I guess, and we specifically got it for
Speaker 6: him so he can communicate with his mother and myself
Speaker 6: when he's not in our homes or with you know,
Speaker 6: with the other families. And that's you know, we monitor
Speaker 6: the contacts and stuff, you know all that.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 6: I don't want to rip that away.
Speaker 1: You don't want to rip away the relationship that your
Speaker 1: son has with uh this this this woman.
Speaker 6: Yeah, because I don't think that's healthy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean look, here's here's the
Speaker 1: here's the thing. Okay, So when you say you don't
Speaker 1: think it's healthy, like you don't think it's healthy for
Speaker 1: him to like develop this relationship with this person and
Speaker 1: then for you to rip it away. Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If he's developing this relationship with this part on the
Speaker 1: on a foundation of this is like a motherish figure
Speaker 1: because this woman is romantically involved with my dad and
Speaker 1: that's like the foundation of that relationship that I mean,
Speaker 1: that is a lie unless a few guys actually are together.
Speaker 1: So even if like you might think that by taking
Speaker 1: that away you're doing him a disservice, it's possible that
Speaker 1: you would be doing him a disservice by letting him
Speaker 1: to continue sort of thinking about the relationship in those terms,
Speaker 1: if that's not the truth. And another thing is like
Speaker 1: if this, if this lady is gonna, you know, commit
Speaker 1: to like being a part of your life and a
Speaker 1: part of your son's life, like I think, and I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like I'm not telling you, you know,
Speaker 1: I would never. I don't even like giving advice to people,
Speaker 1: even though I fucking have this stupid advice show. But like,
Speaker 1: if if it's in important for you to have this,
Speaker 1: for this woman to have a relationship with your son,
Speaker 1: like like you know, she's got to kind of kind
Speaker 1: of commit to it, you know, That's what I think, at.
Speaker 6: Least you know, Yeah, then I guess you know, I
Speaker 6: guess the only thing the matter is time at this point,
Speaker 6: and only time will tell them because we can't tell
Speaker 6: what the future is. At least that's the way I
Speaker 6: see it. But you know, at least in the moment,
Speaker 6: right it's it difficult to know which way you know
Speaker 6: what passed the take with with because I mean, I
Speaker 6: don't know the right w orown decision no matter.
Speaker 1: Here's from what you've told me, and correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. It sounds like hanging out with this woman
Speaker 1: while not knowing what your relationship with her is is
Speaker 1: bothering you?
Speaker 5: Is true?
Speaker 6: Summed up? Yes, I think that's a great assssment that.
Speaker 1: Okay, if that's if that's bothering you, I think you
Speaker 1: should tell her. I don't know if you've told her already.
Speaker 1: If that's bothering you, then you should communicate that to her.
Speaker 1: Have you guys had a conversation about that? Like, have
Speaker 1: you talked to her and been like, we've had you know,
Speaker 1: what were you gonna say?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, no, I won't say.
Speaker 6: We had plenty of conversations and most of the time,
Speaker 6: whenever something gets brought up, it's more so I don't
Speaker 6: want to talk about this anymore and I have too
Speaker 6: much on my plate already, or you know, it gets
Speaker 6: cut off rather abruptly, and I guess she had told me,
Speaker 6: you know, five minutes in person is okay, but you know,
Speaker 6: I can't really do anything.
Speaker 1: More than that, Like, yeah, what do you mean by
Speaker 1: five minutes in person is okay? What does that mean?
Speaker 6: Well, the last conversation we had, I was just talking
Speaker 6: to her over the phone and it got brought up.
Speaker 6: We talked about stuff about twenty minutes, and at the
Speaker 6: end of the conversation she was quite upset and she
Speaker 6: had said, listen, you know, talking about this stuff with
Speaker 6: you for five minutes, you know, face to face is
Speaker 6: one thing, but I can't talk about it, you know,
Speaker 6: for X you know, twenty thirty minutes. It's just too much.
Speaker 6: So it almost it feels like he's trying to avoid it.
Speaker 1: If this, if this is bothering you, like I think
Speaker 1: you need to talk about it. That's that's that's sort
Speaker 1: of what I'll leave you with, even if it's hard.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't have is typically the one you
Speaker 1: have to have, which is annoying. I don't like that either.
Speaker 1: Did I try to have I run away from that
Speaker 1: ship in my own life, I try to have those
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 6: But yeah, just try to.
Speaker 1: Keep some open communication going, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I try that, And obviously.
Speaker 1: Good luck in the future. It seems like you're doing
Speaker 1: the best you can for your son. It seems like
Speaker 1: you actually care. If I were sixteen and I had
Speaker 1: a kid, I would I don't even know what I
Speaker 1: would do. So you know, you're handling your your your
Speaker 1: You're you're fucking handling it as well as you can,
Speaker 1: so you know, take solace in that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, I appreciate that, and I just would like
Speaker 6: to stay for the record, I'm not trying to bad
Speaker 6: mouth her, right, I'm not trying to put her you
Speaker 6: know here.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think anyone thinks you're doing that.
Speaker 6: And I still respect this woman and I still hold
Speaker 6: her at a very high standard, and I don't want
Speaker 6: anybody else to think that badly of her for what
Speaker 6: she you know, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: you know, we're all people, and we make our own decisions,
Speaker 6: and you know it's all of our lives.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, man, Thank you very much for calling, and
Speaker 1: good luck to you.
Speaker 6: Well, I do appreciate it. You take care and have
Speaker 6: a wonderful night, and good luck to everybody else going
Speaker 6: through anything out there.
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Speaker 5: Hello, how are you? I'm good to carry you.
Speaker 8: I'm a gecko er facts.
Speaker 12: And you're on the internet.
Speaker 4: No person?
Speaker 1: Do you like being a person?
Speaker 3: Oh it's okay.
Speaker 12: I think at times I'd rather.
Speaker 4: Be a gecko.
Speaker 1: Why you don't know what it's like to be a
Speaker 1: get go.
Speaker 12: You know what you're You're absolutely right, You're one hundred
Speaker 12: percent right. But you know, I was, you know, I
Speaker 12: was calling because I was having a bad day. Somebody
Speaker 12: broke into my truck stole some stuff, and then, you know,
Speaker 12: in the back of my head, I was thinking, if
Speaker 12: you know, somebody stole from get what could they steal?
Speaker 1: What did they steal from you?
Speaker 19: Uh?
Speaker 12: Well, that would being too specific. Some some pew pew stuff,
Speaker 12: a firearm that I had in the vehicle, and some
Speaker 12: other little things that had in there.
Speaker 1: They stole a gun from your car?
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: Do they steal drugs from your car?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 12: No, Well, I know the gun makes it look like I'm,
Speaker 12: you know, some sort of criminal, but in reality, you know,
Speaker 12: I live in Texas. I'm always at farms and ranches,
Speaker 12: so I usually have a gun on me because, you know,
Speaker 12: we have a lot of wild animals that are keen
Speaker 12: on attacking humans down here.
Speaker 1: Have you by wild animal? I'm sorry, have you ever
Speaker 1: been attacked by wild animal?
Speaker 4: I have.
Speaker 12: Actually, we go hog hunting. You know, they're an evasive
Speaker 12: species down here. There's way too many of them, and
Speaker 12: they're not very nice, you know, and I've been you know,
Speaker 12: you get too close to them and they're mean. They
Speaker 12: they'll charge you, and then you kind of just got
Speaker 12: to do this thing where you run and shoot behind
Speaker 12: you and just hope that they don't catch up to you.
Speaker 12: It's it's not the safest.
Speaker 1: Thing, which I don't understand. H you're but so if
Speaker 1: you're going hog hunting, why are how are you then running?
Speaker 1: Oh you're how are you?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 1: You're running away? Shouldn't they be running away from you
Speaker 1: if you're hunting them?
Speaker 12: You would think so, But in this instance, they are
Speaker 12: the alpha creature. You know, they they're very tasty, but
Speaker 12: you know you do have to walk around and kind
Speaker 12: of look for them, and you know, you would think
Speaker 12: that they would run away, and some do, but some
Speaker 12: are just just not very nice, and then they run
Speaker 12: after you and the hunter becomes the hunted.
Speaker 1: I feel like the alpha creature is the one with
Speaker 1: the gun.
Speaker 12: You would think so, but but you know, pig like.
Speaker 1: A bigger gun.
Speaker 8: You know, you make a good.
Speaker 12: Point there and and I could see you, I can
Speaker 12: see where you're coming from. But at the same time,
Speaker 12: it's kind of you know, you kind of just have
Speaker 12: to be there. They're they're they're big, they're mean. There's
Speaker 12: instances where you can shoot them and they don't care
Speaker 12: and they just keep running after you. They're they're they're
Speaker 12: mean and they're tough. But I do see where you're
Speaker 12: coming from.
Speaker 1: How big is the biggest pig that you've been attached?
Speaker 1: Who would win in a fight between one of these
Speaker 1: pigs and a bear?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 12: I think the bear one hundred percent. You know, the
Speaker 12: thing with the bear is that he's basically got hands, know,
Speaker 12: he's got the palls, and he could pin him down
Speaker 12: and then he could fight him. The hog resilient as
Speaker 12: they are very tough. I still feel like like the bear,
Speaker 12: one could take a hog.
Speaker 1: Okay, but you say that the hogs are the alpha creatures, but.
Speaker 12: Yeah, sometimes sometimes they are.
Speaker 1: But typically when you go to fight the hogs, you win,
Speaker 1: probably because you have a gun.
Speaker 12: For the most part, yes, for the most part, yes,
Speaker 12: they are the alpha creature when they're running after and
Speaker 12: those instances, yes, But and the instances where I'm running
Speaker 12: and they're running behind me, you know, then they become
Speaker 12: the alpha.
Speaker 5: But you're the alpha.
Speaker 1: But you're running from them and you're shooting at them
Speaker 1: with a gun and the bullet is faster than them.
Speaker 12: True, But the gun is the I don't know if
Speaker 12: you've ever.
Speaker 1: Maybe not you you know what you're you know, honestly,
Speaker 1: I think if you didn't, I think I think you're
Speaker 1: only correct if you don't have the gun. I think
Speaker 1: if it's just you versus the pig, then I could
Speaker 1: see the pig being make a good point, But the
Speaker 1: gun itself gives you a pretty clear advantage.
Speaker 4: Over the pig.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 16: That's true.
Speaker 12: You know, you make a very good point there. The
Speaker 12: only the only difference is that when you're trying to
Speaker 12: run and also shoot the thing that's running after you,
Speaker 12: you know, there's a lot of bouncing around, a lot
Speaker 12: of sometimes, you know, you don't.
Speaker 4: Always get that shot off.
Speaker 12: If I was sitting still, then I could hit him.
Speaker 12: But when you're trying to run and shoot the thing
Speaker 12: that's running after you, you it's it's kind of like
Speaker 12: a unversus Oh, it is, it is, but it's it's
Speaker 12: one of those things that it's just it's just fun,
Speaker 12: you know, it's it's one hundred extremely unsafe.
Speaker 1: So someone broke into your car and stole the gun
Speaker 1: that you use to run away from pigs while you
Speaker 1: shoot them. What do you what do you think that
Speaker 1: they're going to.
Speaker 12: Do with it?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 12: I would assume crime, seeing as how they were already
Speaker 12: committing a crime. I would assume that that they're either
Speaker 12: going to try and sell it or or commit.
Speaker 4: Crimes with it.
Speaker 1: You know, what kind of crimes do you think that
Speaker 1: will commit with it?
Speaker 12: I'm not sure. You know, there's a there's a long
Speaker 12: list of things of crimes that you can commit with
Speaker 12: a firearm. You know, I'm not sure what they would
Speaker 12: or would not do.
Speaker 1: So what's your plan? Are you going to get a
Speaker 1: new one?
Speaker 16: I'm night?
Speaker 12: I mean I have others. Actually, I actually just got
Speaker 12: that one, and I had it in the vehicle that
Speaker 12: they primarily because I was going to go to the
Speaker 12: shooting range later and try it out. But that that
Speaker 12: did that didn't work out, seeing as how it was stolen.
Speaker 1: You know, my gut reaction to the idea of you
Speaker 1: going to shoot pigs for fun is to be appalled.
Speaker 12: But well, well, but spots, I'm not shooting them for fun.
Speaker 1: You just said you're shooting I eat bacon also for fun,
Speaker 1: so I so I don't know if that makes me
Speaker 1: any better.
Speaker 12: Well, I don't shoot them for fun. It's fun to
Speaker 12: go on the hunt. But no, I say going out
Speaker 12: and shooting them is fun. That the hunt itself is fun.
Speaker 12: But I don't kill them just for fun. I don't
Speaker 12: leave them.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 12: I do eat them.
Speaker 4: They're very tasty.
Speaker 1: Should lock your car doors next.
Speaker 3: Time, m they were loock they broke my window.
Speaker 1: Should lock your windows from the good point.
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought of that.
Speaker 1: You can do it next time.
Speaker 12: Thank you for calling, Thank you, O good night, geck Allie.
Speaker 1: You know, Pauline was supposed to be the main love
Speaker 1: interest of Mario throughout the Mario series, but she had
Speaker 1: her very first appearance in like the very first Mario game,
Speaker 1: which was Donkey Kong or I guess that was a
Speaker 1: Donkey No, it's a fucking Mario game. But then she
Speaker 1: got Pauline's kind of made a comeback though, because she
Speaker 1: was featured heavily in the uh Super Mario Odyssey, where
Speaker 1: she's like the Mayor.
Speaker 4: Is that so?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean she's got She's sort of like become one
Speaker 1: of the lines of like peripheral sort of princesses to
Speaker 1: Princess Peach, like Rosalina and and then Pauline. But you know,
Speaker 1: I can see, I.
Speaker 11: Can see might be interesting, but I gotta cut you off.
Speaker 11: I gotta cut you off.
Speaker 16: I don't have much time.
Speaker 1: Why don't you have?
Speaker 11: At any moment, someone could come in and tell me
Speaker 11: to do something, so making it quick?
Speaker 5: All right, click, I got a true story for you,
Speaker 5: all right?
Speaker 16: All right?
Speaker 11: This girl I've been talking to, we split up about
Speaker 11: two months ago. We've been talking about getting back together,
Speaker 11: and you know, we talked on and off every day,
Speaker 11: and we decided that tomorrow was the day we were
Speaker 11: gonna move back in, gonna go over there, help remove
Speaker 11: her stuff, you know, get everything moved in. I have
Speaker 11: now been ghosted for all day today. I've heard a
Speaker 11: single thing from her, and that's where we're at. I
Speaker 11: feel so fucking stupid. I want to blow my fucking
Speaker 11: brains out, but I'm not going to. But it's it's, yeah,
Speaker 11: how do you recover from being so?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 5: Where are you? Where would you?
Speaker 3: What would you do as a get go in this situation?
Speaker 1: I think she was in a Mario Kart game. She
Speaker 1: was okay, she was she was in Mario cart eight Deluxe.
Speaker 11: Yeah, Hey, I gotta go have a great night you too.
Speaker 1: Call from THEO.
Speaker 15: Heo.
Speaker 3: How Hello, Hey, Hi, I'm.
Speaker 4: Hello.
Speaker 3: Yes, how are you doing today?
Speaker 1: Look? No, you know what, you don't have to ask
Speaker 1: me how I'm doing because you came in here with
Speaker 1: this energy that made that where you really just wanted
Speaker 1: to get into it, and I'm with you. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 5: Okay, thank you.
Speaker 17: So, I personally don't have any problems with anything, but
Speaker 17: I have this one X that I broke up with
Speaker 17: a few months ago, and she obviously still has feelings
Speaker 17: for me, and I don't.
Speaker 3: She's she's she's in the dark place.
Speaker 17: And I feel guilty about it?
Speaker 5: And what should I do about it?
Speaker 1: You feel guilty for breaking up with your ex girlfriend
Speaker 1: because she's in a place. Yeah, I mean I don't
Speaker 1: really know. Well, here's here's one thing I will tell you, okay,
Speaker 1: is that and this is my own personal belief, is that, Look,
Speaker 1: you have your reasons for breaking up with her, correct. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that those reasons are meaningful to you. Right,
Speaker 1: you're because here's here's why you shouldn't feel bad about
Speaker 1: this is because.
Speaker 10: You are.
Speaker 1: You feel guilty because you're breaking up with her, because
Speaker 1: you're like, but, but, but you being in a relationship
Speaker 1: with her is of no use to her if the
Speaker 1: relationship is not working, which I assume it's not because
Speaker 1: of the reasons that you have decided to break up
Speaker 1: with her, So okay, does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Like it doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Sense you And look, you know, I don't know why
Speaker 1: you're breaking up with her. You don't have to tell
Speaker 1: me for you know me to say this, but you
Speaker 1: have your the relationship is just not working out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's why. That's why it's being ended. And you
Speaker 1: know it's probably not working out for reasons that are
Speaker 1: like I'm assuming, sort of out of your control. And
Speaker 1: I would consider like feelings, you know, maybe you're not
Speaker 1: feeling it anymore or something like that. I would consider
Speaker 1: that not out of your control. I think you can.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can force yourself to love anyone.
Speaker 1: So look, you're kind of like it would not It
Speaker 1: would not be helpful to her or helpful to anyone
Speaker 1: for you to simply stay in a relationship that's not
Speaker 1: working because you feel bad or because you think it
Speaker 1: would help. It would Actually it's like ripping a band
Speaker 1: aid off, like you know, like you just got to
Speaker 1: do it. You know, it doesn't help to stay in
Speaker 1: a bad relationship because this person's in a bad place.
Speaker 15: But the thing is, I've already broken up with her.
Speaker 5: I've moved on with my life.
Speaker 15: It's been months already. But she feels like she doesn't
Speaker 15: have anyone she it was a long distance and she's
Speaker 15: been complaining about she doesn't have any friends or anything.
Speaker 15: And I feel like I'm the only person else or
Speaker 15: she makes me feel like I'm the only person that
Speaker 15: she cares about. And I just want her to like
Speaker 15: associate and socialize with other people better and just move
Speaker 15: away from me and move on, and so we could
Speaker 15: just go our separate ways.
Speaker 1: I think it's very sweet that you care about this person.
Speaker 1: I can tell you care about this person. I think
Speaker 1: it's nice, but a like you're this this sort of
Speaker 1: like I I maybe you could call it a pity
Speaker 1: relationship or friendship. Even that she's trying to form with
Speaker 1: you is of is as I've said, no use to her,
Speaker 1: because it's it is not genuine from you. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it comes from a place of pity, which is ingenuine.
Speaker 1: So so it's it's even if you were to like,
Speaker 1: you know, be sympathetic to these these things that she's
Speaker 1: telling you. You know, it's it. It just naturally is
Speaker 1: not coming from a place that's useful to either of you.
Speaker 1: You know. And look, I think it's sweet that you care.
Speaker 1: I really do, And it really seems like you care
Speaker 1: about this person and you've done all that you reasonably can.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna move on with your life, you
Speaker 1: got to just move on with your life. This is
Speaker 1: my opinion.
Speaker 3: I've moved on, but I don't know if she has.
Speaker 1: At a certain point. It's not your responsibility. Okay, thank
Speaker 1: you for that, of course, have a nice stick you
Speaker 1: as well. Man. I wish I could have said something
Speaker 1: like that to the guy who was asking me who
Speaker 1: I was, said the Mario Kart thing too?
Speaker 12: Aw from Glynn Walker?
Speaker 3: What did Walker?
Speaker 7: What did?
Speaker 4: Hello?
Speaker 5: Hi? Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Well? How's it going? I mean, look, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sort of you know it's going on, It's going how
Speaker 1: it goes? You know, I'm a gacko on the computer
Speaker 1: talking to people on the phone. Absolutely, absolutely, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I got through am I on speakerphone right now?
Speaker 1: You are.
Speaker 8: Let me turn the volume down a little bit of
Speaker 8: my phone is like fucked up, and like, oh, go
Speaker 8: ahead to be.
Speaker 1: A favor to take me off of speakerphone real quick.
Speaker 5: Okay, let me see.
Speaker 4: Is this better?
Speaker 1: Much better? I'm Jonathan? Jonathan are wearing shoes right now?
Speaker 5: I am not?
Speaker 1: Actually no, why are you wearing shoes right now? Jonathan?
Speaker 8: Because I am laying on the bed and I just
Speaker 8: didn't didn't seem right, And honestly, I was like a
Speaker 8: little warm, and your body temperature is actually heavily affected
Speaker 8: by your feet, and so I took the shoes off
Speaker 8: to cool my body down.
Speaker 1: That's a very well thought out answer to that question.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Do you typically put a lot of thought into the
Speaker 1: answer that you provide? Very fust two? Do you typically
Speaker 1: put a lot of Do you typically put a lot
Speaker 1: of thought into the answers that you provide to various questions.
Speaker 8: It just depends on the question, I guess when.
Speaker 1: You say it depends on the question. What criteria must
Speaker 1: a question have for you to put thought into it?
Speaker 8: I guess how much of an impact it has on
Speaker 8: the other person in the conversation?
Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting, Do you believe that when you say impact?
Speaker 1: What sort of impact.
Speaker 8: So I mean, if it's a if it's like a
Speaker 8: personal question, if someone's wanting like a you know, an
Speaker 8: opinion on a personal matter, you know, I'm gonna gonna
Speaker 8: give that a little more thought. But if they have
Speaker 8: like a general question like hey, do you do you
Speaker 8: like this shirt? You know, it's just gonna be like
Speaker 8: an off the rip, like yeah or no? Or do
Speaker 8: you like the shirt? Because that's what really matters.
Speaker 1: Interesting, because I feel as though, all right, so I
Speaker 1: asked you why you are not currently wearing shoes, and
Speaker 1: you give me a very well thought out answer, And
Speaker 1: did you do so because you rated the impact of
Speaker 1: the answer to the question on me as very high?
Speaker 8: No, I actually I answered it just because that was
Speaker 8: it didn't really require much thought.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 8: It's like I know that like body temperature depends, like
Speaker 8: I said, heavily on your feet and also on the
Speaker 8: top of your head. And so if you want to
Speaker 8: cool down, you know, if you're wearing a hat, take
Speaker 8: off your hat and take off your shoes and socks,
Speaker 8: and if you want to warm up, you know, maybe
Speaker 8: throw a hat on, throw.
Speaker 5: Some shoes on.
Speaker 1: It's just well, you again, it feels as though you
Speaker 1: gave me yet another well thought out answer. I feel
Speaker 1: like you're very good at this.
Speaker 8: I guess I'm just naturally naturally talented, maybe because I
Speaker 8: don't feel like I'm thinking too hard about it, just trying.
Speaker 1: To go with the flow, you know, exactly. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: that's your talent, is going with the flow.
Speaker 4: Hey, appreciate that.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: What do you do for a living?
Speaker 13: Ah?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 5: What do I do for a living? Currently?
Speaker 8: I work as a prep cook at a conference center,
Speaker 8: and I actually have you mentioned Chick fil earlier? I
Speaker 8: actually have an interview with Chick fil A on Friday
Speaker 8: for a second job because I'm trying to trying to.
Speaker 3: Save up some money, and.
Speaker 8: They're paying nineteen dollars an hour, which is like unheard
Speaker 8: of these days, so it's kind of nice. I'm hoping
Speaker 8: hoping that I get that. So, but you know, what
Speaker 8: I'm doing for a living is whatever I can whatever
Speaker 8: I can find that you know, helps me out the
Speaker 8: most and my future successes.
Speaker 1: Whatever helps you out the most in your future successes.
Speaker 1: Your future successes, tell me about them? What do they
Speaker 1: look like?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Well, I.
Speaker 8: I love music. I'm a musician, and so I work
Speaker 8: hard at that. So I'd love to have some sort
Speaker 8: of like a like a B tier career as a musician.
Speaker 8: But for me, success really is like getting like a
Speaker 8: large plot of land and building a homestead on it
Speaker 8: and being able to live off that land and you know,
Speaker 8: potentially provide jobs for friends and family and you know,
Speaker 8: set other people up for success with my success.
Speaker 1: So a sort of sustainable farming thing where all of
Speaker 1: your food would be grown on the land in which
Speaker 1: you live.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I mean on the land
Speaker 8: you know. I want to do like a like a
Speaker 8: solar farm because in many states you can get like
Speaker 8: a nice tax credit for that, and also would be
Speaker 8: able to provide power for myself. You know, maybe even
Speaker 8: like if it's big enough land, you know, maybe I
Speaker 8: could even have like a music venue there and do
Speaker 8: like some some concerts and festivals and stuff like that.
Speaker 8: It all just depends on the the size of the
Speaker 8: land and the resources that I have available to me.
Speaker 1: I like that Duncan's Farm Music Festival.
Speaker 8: Duncan Am I going to be sponsored by like Dunkin Donuts.
Speaker 1: Do you feel as though there will be enough electrical outlets,
Speaker 1: like if you're doing this in like a farm that
Speaker 1: was a dumb question. Answer it anyway.
Speaker 4: There's no such thing as dumb question, is there?
Speaker 8: That's what my teachers told me.
Speaker 1: Anyways, What else did teacher tell you that you remember?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 12: Man?
Speaker 8: What else did my teachers tell me? Why equals MX
Speaker 8: plus b Uh?
Speaker 3: I remember that? I don't.
Speaker 8: I think that's slope?
Speaker 5: Uh intercept?
Speaker 12: I remember that?
Speaker 4: What are they?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 20: Like?
Speaker 8: None of my teachers really had too much of an impact,
Speaker 8: but my my high school principal had a huge impact
Speaker 8: on me. And you know, he uh, he gave me
Speaker 8: a guitar for my eighteenth birthday and he just told
Speaker 8: me to make sure to pay it forward and to
Speaker 8: just be good to people. And so I've kind of, uh,
Speaker 8: that's really stuck with me. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 8: can't really remember much of much else of what teachers told.
Speaker 1: Me, you know, I guess, like I have two questions
Speaker 1: to that. Okay, first question, Your high school principal gave
Speaker 1: you a guitar for your eighteenth birthday? Yes, sir, you
Speaker 1: had a pretty close relationship with them. Yeah.
Speaker 8: So for my junior and senior year of high school,
Speaker 8: I was teaching myself to play guitar, and I would
Speaker 8: borrow friends guitars and during Spirit Week I would go
Speaker 8: around to classrooms and stuff and play guitar and play
Speaker 8: like covers and stuff to raise money for the said
Speaker 8: charity of that year. And he knew that I borrowed
Speaker 8: guitar to be able to do that, and he knew
Speaker 8: that I was like teaching myself, and so he decided
Speaker 8: that he he he asked me, you know, he's like,
Speaker 8: what's a good guitar. I'm gonna get my son a guitar,
Speaker 8: you know, and like, I'd really like to know your opinion.
Speaker 8: And I told him, like, a Taylor, you know, do
Speaker 8: you know much about guitars? Do you know anything about guitars?
Speaker 1: I don't know a single thing about guitars.
Speaker 8: Okay, So, like two of the most popular acoustic guitars
Speaker 8: are Tailors and Martin's, and Tailors have a really nice,
Speaker 8: bright sound to them. And so I told him that
Speaker 8: one and he kind of just played it off as
Speaker 8: if he was getting his son a gift, right, And
Speaker 8: so one day he he's like, Hey, I got my
Speaker 8: son this guitar. I'd love to know what you think.
Speaker 8: Can you check it out? And I was like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 8: And so he handed me the guitar and I played
Speaker 8: around on a little bit and I mean it sounded
Speaker 8: it sounded so good.
Speaker 5: And he was like, what do you think of that?
Speaker 8: And I was like, I think he'll like it a lot.
Speaker 8: It's a really nice guitar. You did a good job.
Speaker 8: And he he said, well, actually that's.
Speaker 18: For you, and he.
Speaker 4: He purchased it.
Speaker 8: It was either him or him in the administration of
Speaker 8: the school got together and purchased it. Because they were
Speaker 8: all standing behind me like filming it on there like
Speaker 8: iPhone threes or fours or whatever it was at that time,
Speaker 8: like ten years ago, and it was like a big surprise.
Speaker 8: And I'm actually looking at the guitar right now. I
Speaker 8: still have it. But I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 8: I don't think many people get that experience from teachers
Speaker 8: or administrators in that school. And you know, he he
Speaker 8: was a really good guy. I got to shout him out,
Speaker 8: like Stephen Chamnis. He passed away like two or three
Speaker 8: years ago, but he really cared, you know, and it
Speaker 8: made a big impact on me. And yeah, it's the
Speaker 8: cherished memory and a cherished.
Speaker 4: Item of mine.
Speaker 1: Now tell me you say that what was his name
Speaker 1: against Stephen. Yes, Stephen, what you did? You you you
Speaker 1: must have called him mister what was his last name? Tamness,
Speaker 1: mister Chamnis, Yes, sir, mister Chamnas, So, mister Shamnis. He
Speaker 1: told you to pay forward? Yes, Do you feel as
Speaker 1: though you have made efforts to pay forward?
Speaker 8: I definitely feel as if I've made efforts. I to me,
Speaker 8: like paying it forward would be to eventually buy someone
Speaker 8: else's guitar or invest in someone else's like dreams in
Speaker 8: the way that he did for me. Unfortunately, I've had
Speaker 8: a lot of struggles financially and self admittedly in my
Speaker 8: early twenties, you know, a lot of that was pure
Speaker 8: financial irresponsibility, you know, and then pandemic kind of threw
Speaker 8: everything out of whack. And so I'm working on getting
Speaker 8: all of that together now so that i can do
Speaker 8: a better job. But I've always done my best to
Speaker 8: like live past passionately and just just show love to
Speaker 8: people in general, like as a as an immediate you know,
Speaker 8: response to meeting someone. You know, it's like you never
Speaker 8: know what somebody's going through in life, and you know,
Speaker 8: if somebody is like in a in a crappy mood
Speaker 8: and projecting it onto you. That doesn't necessarily mean that
Speaker 8: it's towards you. You're just unfortunately the one receiving that
Speaker 8: from them, you know. And it's like I've just done
Speaker 8: my best to to show love to people and to
Speaker 8: encourage people and to uh.
Speaker 1: Just be what I feel is a good person, beautiful
Speaker 1: well said, thank you, duncan.
Speaker 8: Thank you very much man?
Speaker 7: Then uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Doug, real quickly, is.
Speaker 8: There anything that you'd like to talk about, anything that
Speaker 8: you have on your mind, like could.
Speaker 1: Give some one My question for you, is there a
Speaker 1: particular animal that you are most excited to have on
Speaker 1: this farm, either to kill their meat or toss it?
Speaker 9: So?
Speaker 8: Can I split that into two questions, like a particular
Speaker 8: animal to like raise for livestock in a particular animal
Speaker 8: to have like as a as a pet.
Speaker 1: No, it's just.
Speaker 8: Just the livestock one.
Speaker 1: Just a livestock one.
Speaker 8: Okay, hm hmm.
Speaker 5: That's tough.
Speaker 8: I don't necessarily love the idea of of killing animals,
Speaker 8: but I also am more.
Speaker 1: Keen to animals, or I mean, I guess you could.
Speaker 8: Well like so the farm primarily is for uh like paeonies,
Speaker 8: so like flowers, and so me and my partner have
Speaker 8: talked about, you know, getting into that business because weddings
Speaker 8: like those flowers, and they typically sell for anywhere between.
Speaker 1: Hearing that you say that you want to that you're
Speaker 1: very excited to kill a chicken.
Speaker 8: Yes, I'm super excited.
Speaker 1: Beautiful. Thank you so much for saying anything, DOUNC and
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 8: Hey, thank you so much.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 8: You have a blast night you as well.
Speaker 5: Hello.
Speaker 19: Hi, how's it going, gek, how's it going? How's it going?
Speaker 19: How's it going? How's it going? How's it going?
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 1: It's gone. I'm a gecko on the computer.
Speaker 4: You are a gecko on the computers? The fact?
Speaker 1: Is it a fact? Do you do you? Do you
Speaker 1: believe it is objective reality?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I do?
Speaker 1: Thank you. Do you believe that reality is a democracy?
Speaker 19: Uh?
Speaker 4: I don't even really understand what that question means.
Speaker 1: I think what it means is that, like the uh okay,
Speaker 1: so the acceptance of what is? Do you think that
Speaker 1: everyone sort of gets to vote on what is? Or
Speaker 1: do you think everyone in their own mind gets to
Speaker 1: sort of decide and have their own experience of what
Speaker 1: is and that there is a difference and that there
Speaker 1: is a diff definitive reality versus everyone's perception just combined together.
Speaker 1: What did you want to You had a thing? Do
Speaker 1: you know what? Lou is your name? Yes, tell me
Speaker 1: about the thing that you told our dear friends that
Speaker 1: you wanted to talk about.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the new calling system.
Speaker 1: Yeah, questions of reality.
Speaker 4: I do like that. The new calling system. I yeah,
Speaker 4: I told them about the first time I got arrested.
Speaker 4: Should just get into it, to just get get right
Speaker 4: into it.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've already gotten into it, depending on
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, So I was a freshman in college
Speaker 4: and I was tailgating a football game. We're out there
Speaker 4: having a good time, hanging out, drinking some beers and whatnot,
Speaker 4: and then games about to start. We're heading home. We
Speaker 4: see the team walking into the stadium, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 4: I decided I was gonna follow them and go walk
Speaker 4: on to the field with them. And somehow I successfully
Speaker 4: managed to get through the tunnel and walk through with
Speaker 4: the team. I walked all the way around the field
Speaker 4: and I was hanging out for like ten fifteen minutes,
Speaker 4: maybe handing them waters and whatnot. I took a video
Speaker 4: of myself down there and then put a hand on
Speaker 4: my shoulder, got dragged out, gave me a good old
Speaker 4: sobriety test. There's a group of like eighth graders, there's
Speaker 4: some some somewhere in that age range watching me, and
Speaker 4: I just felt so disappointed at that moment. And then
Speaker 4: I get thrown on a bench. Look up and one
Speaker 4: of my friends so I was hanging out with earlier,
Speaker 4: also was arrested at the same time, completely different thing.
Speaker 4: And then we spent the night in jail together, and
Speaker 4: it was quite an experience.
Speaker 1: Would you ever go back to jail?
Speaker 4: I did go back to jail, but I do not
Speaker 4: plan on going back any more. Times. I've been to
Speaker 4: jail enough for a lifetime.
Speaker 1: Tell me about the second time you went to jail.
Speaker 4: The times not as on that. When I was just
Speaker 4: we were just having a party, had some jungle juice.
Speaker 4: We decided that we were going to go to McDonald's
Speaker 4: at like four am, and so I grabbed one of
Speaker 4: my roommate's keys. We and me and a bunch of
Speaker 4: dudes packed up in the car, started driving around and
Speaker 4: they drove around for a little bit on some third roads.
Speaker 4: We're going really fast, and we finally bombed up. Started
Speaker 4: driving to McDonald's and then I cop pulled this over
Speaker 4: and then I got arrested for that, which that one
Speaker 4: just kind of sucks.
Speaker 1: But did you experience anything in the joint that changed you?
Speaker 4: In the joint? Kind of You meet a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting people in there, because well, at least the way
Speaker 4: they did it where I got arrested, we all just
Speaker 4: kind of got put in one cell together and had
Speaker 4: to wait for the nights. You meet a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting people like that. I met a guy. There's some
Speaker 4: few people who are like regulars at the tail and
Speaker 4: this is something that I've found other people I know
Speaker 4: who've gotten arrested have also experienced, and that those those
Speaker 4: people are quite interesting and give you a good change
Speaker 4: of perspective on life.
Speaker 1: Tell me about any one of these people in particular
Speaker 1: that you met and what Liza that told you that
Speaker 1: changed your perspective.
Speaker 4: One of the guys who's in there got He claimed
Speaker 4: that he got hit by a train and something like that,
Speaker 4: and I don't know, I don't know what the whole
Speaker 4: deal was with that, but it's just interesting to see
Speaker 4: how like why they how do you keep ending up
Speaker 4: in jail? You know, like what what forces are at
Speaker 4: play that causes someone to do that, but I also did.
Speaker 4: That's why why don't I understand that? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe that's something I should go talk to a therapist about.
Speaker 1: If you were to go to jail third time, what
Speaker 1: do you think it would be for?
Speaker 4: It would have to be something. It would be something big,
Speaker 4: like money laundering, or it'd have to be really worth
Speaker 4: it to go to jail for a third time. Maybe,
Speaker 4: Like I've always liked mob movies and stuff. If I
Speaker 4: could be in the mob, that would be that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: What do you think you would do for the mob?
Speaker 4: Shake guys down, you know, burn down buildings for insurance money,
Speaker 4: the sort of mob stuff. Maybe on a strip club?
Speaker 1: Would you cook for the mob?
Speaker 4: If I had, I maybe own a restaurant the mob
Speaker 4: would let the mob to hang out in, But personally
Speaker 4: I would not. I would not like cooking for the mob.
Speaker 4: I I did. I did work as a coke once.
Speaker 4: It was just I liked it, but it was not
Speaker 4: It was not something I could do long term, especially
Speaker 4: for mob people, because then you know that they got
Speaker 4: they got high standards, and if you don't live up
Speaker 4: to that time, that's not It's not good for you.
Speaker 1: Do you think the mob would like you? No, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's for the mob. Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Depends on if I things go well for me, if
Speaker 4: I if I was doing a good job, or if
Speaker 4: I blew it on my first job, and maybe they
Speaker 4: wouldn't like me so much.
Speaker 1: I like you.
Speaker 4: I like you too, GEK, thank you. I wonder I
Speaker 4: wonder if those those people have been I'm still thinking
Speaker 4: about those those two married couples. Did that did that
Speaker 4: thing or not? I hope they called back. Sorry to
Speaker 4: change the subjects. That just popped into my mind. Is
Speaker 4: this just am I cutting out? He was quiet? What? Okay?
Speaker 4: I didn't know if my phone was cutting out? If
Speaker 4: we were just we were just quiet.
Speaker 1: Would you kill someone for the mob?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably if they paid me off, not not if
Speaker 4: it was just like if it was like another mob
Speaker 4: guy who like killed someone in my mob group, then
Speaker 4: I would I would kill that guy. But if it
Speaker 4: was just like, hey, this guy didn't pass money, you
Speaker 4: should kill him.
Speaker 20: I don't know if I would do that, but then
Speaker 20: they might kill me, so maybe I would. The mob
Speaker 20: might kill me if I didn't kill that person. You know,
Speaker 20: maybe if I was, if I was in that deep,
Speaker 20: then maybe I would I would have to do that.
Speaker 1: What about for one hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, Yeah, probably if I was in the MOB,
Speaker 4: I'd probably I would probably be I'd probably do that.
Speaker 4: They probably pay less people, they'd probably pay people less.
Speaker 4: I feel I think that would be a good on
Speaker 4: the high end of pay for a job like that. Well,
Speaker 4: thank you so much, MOB, Thank thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Kay, of course, I hope you have a good rest
Speaker 1: of the night.
Speaker 4: HM as usual.
Speaker 14: Hey, hey, I want your opinion on something. Oh sure,
Speaker 14: So I background, I'm eighteen, right, I'm a senior high
Speaker 14: school and obviously this year's a little messed up because
Speaker 14: of COVID, and they decided to change up homecoming. And
Speaker 14: what they decided to do is instead of have it
Speaker 14: in the gym like they usually do, we have a
Speaker 14: pretty big gym, so it's not like that crowded. They
Speaker 14: decided to have us have it have it be a
Speaker 14: formal event, so like suit and kai event, but we
Speaker 14: are going to our local zoo to do it outside
Speaker 14: their rain or shine.
Speaker 1: You're having homecoming at the zoo.
Speaker 14: Yeah, Homecoming at the zoo okay, and I recently changed
Speaker 14: my mind about it. I was like, at first, I
Speaker 14: was like, I think this is a lot of other
Speaker 14: people who were in my grade as well. It was
Speaker 14: just like, oh, like hell, now, like that's so stupid,
Speaker 14: that's like what are they doing? What are they thinking?
Speaker 14: But now I'm kind of like.
Speaker 1: See what's your name again, Grant? Grant? Here's my fear
Speaker 1: for you? Do you have a date? You have a
Speaker 1: date to home coming?
Speaker 4: I do not know.
Speaker 12: M hmm.
Speaker 1: Here's my fear for you is, let's say I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe there's a girl you have a crush on,
Speaker 1: and you're you're and you go and you ask her
Speaker 1: out Tom coming out the zoo and and she says,
Speaker 1: you know what, you seem like a sweet guy. Grant Grant?
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, g r A n T.
Speaker 1: Grant. He said you seemed like a sweet guy. G
Speaker 1: r A n T. Why not? What the hell?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Nobody else asked me. I'll go with you, sure, I
Speaker 1: might have a good time. I'll try to have a
Speaker 1: good time. You guys get there. Yeah, And on site,
Speaker 1: she locks eyes with a cheetah with chisels abs in
Speaker 1: a high level of charisma, speed, athleticism, a degree to
Speaker 1: which he literally physically could not match. And she goes,
Speaker 1: She turns to Grant, she says, hold on my minute,
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta go to the bathroom. And then
Speaker 1: you know, half an hour passes something like that. You're like,
Speaker 1: where the hell dos you go? And then, uh, you
Speaker 1: know you maybe you go outside to smoke a cigarette.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're eighteen, you can do that outside.
Speaker 1: And you see her making out heavily with this cheetah,
Speaker 1: which is by the way, not only I mean because
Speaker 1: that's that's not only a sort of a physical attraction,
Speaker 1: that's a very emotional attraction too, because to make out
Speaker 1: with the cheetah requires a deep level of trust, because
Speaker 1: the cheetah could easily, you know, bite her face and
Speaker 1: rip it off, or a deep or a deep level
Speaker 1: of lust. Maybe maybe she's so attractive to the cheetah
Speaker 1: that that she's willing to risk it. And you feel
Speaker 1: heartbroken because you look at that, and you go, will
Speaker 1: anyone ever trust me the way that the way that
Speaker 1: she trust that cheetah.
Speaker 14: I think that is a valid fear. I like, like,
Speaker 14: I know, I can't run with it, like sixty five
Speaker 14: miles an hour, cheating.
Speaker 4: Torn or something like that.
Speaker 1: Bring it up to the principal. Tell them everything I said,
Speaker 1: because look, there's gonna be a lot of broken hearts
Speaker 1: that night. Yeah, you know, human people are just not
Speaker 1: as sexy as.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Cheetahs, jeesus.
Speaker 14: If I'm being honest, I prefer I'll prefer another animal
Speaker 14: other than the cheetah. I don't know what animal that
Speaker 14: is yet, but I know it's had to do. And
Speaker 14: my my initial my initial thought is monkeys.
Speaker 1: Well, Grant, I thought that's something you should talk about
Speaker 1: in real therapy.
Speaker 14: H That's probably right because you're not a therapist.
Speaker 1: But thank you very much for calling. And I hope
Speaker 1: you have a wonder for us of the night.
Speaker 14: Thank you, thank you for listening. I hope I hope
Speaker 14: you have a great night too.
Speaker 1: While thank you, grand I know when that hot line
Speaker 1: ghak that it cannot.
Speaker 6: Hello.
Speaker 1: I know when the hot line it can only mean
Speaker 1: one thing. Did what rhymes with ghak.
Speaker 16: Uh mech deck shrek?
Speaker 8: Hello?
Speaker 1: So spec speck rhymes with ghak about Shrek Dick doesn't
Speaker 1: rhyme with dick. Shrek rhymes with ghek. But it wouldn't work,
Speaker 1: I know in the hotline.
Speaker 16: GEK, I yeah, that goes pretty well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what who That's the real question I
Speaker 1: want to know is is you know I want to
Speaker 1: know from you like who cares about anything ever in life?
Speaker 12: You know?
Speaker 1: That's what I want to know from you.
Speaker 16: I mean, I mean, it depends what your priorities are.
Speaker 16: I guess because I guess something's really important to you,
Speaker 16: then you could.
Speaker 3: Care for you.
Speaker 1: You know, you told one of my two fine, shout
Speaker 1: out real by the way, I even shout out real quick,
Speaker 1: becase I don't know if I've given the shout out yet,
Speaker 1: but shout out to K. Lizard and Tim shuts the door.
Speaker 1: They've been screening the phone calls tonight doing a wonderful job.
Speaker 1: Shout out to them. Shout out to them. You told.
Speaker 1: I don't know which one you talked to, but you
Speaker 1: told one of them that you need you are. You're
Speaker 1: a college man, you're educated, you're young, you're bright, your spry.
Speaker 1: Your brain is enormous.
Speaker 16: I mean, i'd say my brain could be a little
Speaker 16: smooth at times. I mean it has its ridges, but
Speaker 16: uh yeah, man, I'm going to college. It's going to
Speaker 16: be a pretty interesting experience.
Speaker 17: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, what's are you gonna?
Speaker 20: Uh?
Speaker 6: Have you ever?
Speaker 12: What?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, I mean deep down really
Speaker 1: like what you called in right?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm?
Speaker 17: What?
Speaker 1: How?
Speaker 10: What do you do?
Speaker 1: You want something? Out of the What can I? What
Speaker 1: can I do for you? That's why?
Speaker 10: What can I?
Speaker 1: What can I do for you?
Speaker 10: What can I?
Speaker 1: What can a guy on the computer? What can I
Speaker 1: of the limited sort of resources that we have, of
Speaker 1: my limited you know, at personal education and life experience
Speaker 1: and the fact that we're a digital medium medium, I mean,
Speaker 1: just with what we've got, the situation we're in. How
Speaker 1: what can I do for you?
Speaker 17: Hmm?
Speaker 16: I mean you're a get go. I'm a geck and
Speaker 16: I get goo knows how to survive, and I'm trying
Speaker 16: to survive in college, but I know.
Speaker 1: How to survive to the age that I am. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry you were going you did exactly what I was
Speaker 1: trying to get you to do, and then I completely
Speaker 1: interrupted you. What were you saying?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 16: You know, I just need survival tips from the survivor
Speaker 16: man himself, the get go You.
Speaker 1: Need survival tips. Okay, what are you trying to survive?
Speaker 16: I mean, you know, I'm now a broke college students,
Speaker 16: so you know I need a survive you know, how
Speaker 16: to get food?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 16: I just no, I just I feel like a rat
Speaker 16: scavenging for parts.
Speaker 1: You mean literally survive.
Speaker 16: Yes, or just metaphorically as well.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's mental I mean metaphorically or literally?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: Are you are you actually struggling to find food every day?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 8: Not every day?
Speaker 16: I mean it could be occasional, but it depends how
Speaker 16: much I have in my wealthy you know, what are
Speaker 16: you going to school for mechanical engineering?
Speaker 12: Okay? Engineering?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, and I went to school for film,
Speaker 1: so mentally surviving going through film school super easy, like
Speaker 1: way easier than mechanical engineering, So you could do that.
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. Is you chose, uh, I
Speaker 1: assume for good reasons. I don't know the reasons why
Speaker 1: you choose, Why you choose to do the things that
Speaker 1: you do in your life, because I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can always tell me, but as of right now,
Speaker 1: I no, you chose to do something really hard mechanical engineering.
Speaker 1: I'd never do that's too hard, but you chose to
Speaker 1: do it. Why did you choose to do it.
Speaker 16: So I like taking things apart and I like putting
Speaker 16: them back together in new ways, whether it's cars or bikes, anything.
Speaker 1: Really, that's a wonderful reason. That's a wonderful reason. Okay, great.
Speaker 1: So you have chosen to do something because you like
Speaker 1: doing it, and you've made that intentional choice, and you
Speaker 1: seem as though the choice, even though it leaves you
Speaker 1: in a state of struggle, was being made for intentional reasons.
Speaker 1: Your struggleing. No, I'm dead serious right now, your struggle
Speaker 1: is intentional. That's the most important part.
Speaker 16: Uh, I guess that's true. Yeah, it was made out
Speaker 16: of my own decisions exactly.
Speaker 1: That's the most important part. I think your struggles intentional.
Speaker 1: You chose to go to school for mechanical engineering and
Speaker 1: suffer because because it was important to you. You know,
Speaker 1: sufferings inherent, I think, and uh, you know, we get
Speaker 1: to choose how we suffer sometimes if you're lucky.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 16: Why did you choose film? Was it easier or did
Speaker 16: you have a passion in it?
Speaker 1: Why did I choose film? I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was just sort of if I went to college
Speaker 1: because it just felt like the next thing to do.
Speaker 1: But now an internet gecko guy. But enough about me. Okay, well, okay,
Speaker 1: did you eat? What did you eat today? What did
Speaker 1: you eat today?
Speaker 16: I'm gonna be straight up. I had two pieces of
Speaker 16: bread and then I put ham in the middle, and
Speaker 16: then I got another piece of bread, put cream cheese
Speaker 16: strawberry cream cheese in there, and then I had some
Speaker 16: flam I mean I got it off the safeway.
Speaker 1: But you know, some flam it stelling me right there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: flam like like the cake flan.
Speaker 16: I mean, I wouldn't consider it a cake. It's more
Speaker 16: like gelatinous.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay, look, dude, you're by the way, you don't
Speaker 1: have to be a shamed when you're talking to me
Speaker 1: about this kind of shit I eat. I'll just I had,
Speaker 1: Actually I had a kind of similar.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 1: That's what I ate today. Is I ate two pieces
Speaker 1: of bread with ham and like some parmesan cheese on it,
Speaker 1: and then I just took another piece of bread, put
Speaker 1: a piece, put a couple pieces of turkey in it,
Speaker 1: sprinkled some mozzarella cheese on it, and then just folded
Speaker 1: it and ate it. And the dishes. It was like
Speaker 1: a sandwich and a half, all right, so you can
Speaker 1: afford bread, you can afford multiple pieces of bread.
Speaker 16: Yes, substance, well, temporary substance.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, all substance is temporary. There's no such thing
Speaker 1: as permanent food.
Speaker 16: Unless you're a plant. Well no, no, never mind, I
Speaker 16: take that back.
Speaker 1: That would be very cost efficient though permanent food.
Speaker 5: It would be.
Speaker 16: Then you wouldn't have to worry about food.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Imagine if you could just eat a sandwich permanently.
Speaker 16: Man, I feel like you get tired of it really quickly,
Speaker 16: Like like you'd lose dopening from eating that.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, you wouldn't know. It's the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't lose you wouldn't get tired of it all
Speaker 1: because you only have to eat it once.
Speaker 16: Oh I thought you meant like consistently eating it. Oh okay,
Speaker 16: never mind. Yeah, so the sandwich would be pretty dope.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually think the opposite is quite tiring, having to
Speaker 1: scavenge for food all the time.
Speaker 16: Yeah, it's like you're a little ratt in the supers,
Speaker 16: just looking around trying to get what you can.
Speaker 1: You said you feel like a rat. You told me
Speaker 1: that earlier, Yeah, I do. Unfortunately, do you think that
Speaker 1: this will be your life forever.
Speaker 16: I mean, I actually it's temporary. I mean, life is suffering.
Speaker 16: But I wouldn't I mean, I wouldn't really put it
Speaker 16: like to say it's permanent. I mean, this is just
Speaker 16: going to be four years in my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what look for very intentional.
Speaker 16: Struggle field, Yes, very intentional years.
Speaker 1: That's the most part of that. Look, because here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Here's what you could have done. Is you could have actually,
Speaker 1: actually I don't know, I don't know what you could
Speaker 1: have done. I don't really know your life well enough
Speaker 1: to tell you what you could have done. But I
Speaker 1: mean I'm sure that maybe I actually I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything of your life. But you know,
Speaker 1: you could have pursued more comfortable options prob Maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. You could have comfortable options, but you didn't.
Speaker 1: You chose a harder thing because it was important to you.
Speaker 1: So look, here's the thing. When you're eating shitty fucking
Speaker 1: sandwiches and scravenging for food and struggling, uh, let it
Speaker 1: let it be of some amount of condolence to you. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: Hopefully this can can get you through when the times
Speaker 1: are tough, to the to the light at the end
Speaker 1: of the tunnel in which the times are maybe a
Speaker 1: little less tough. Is the fact that you chose this struggle,
Speaker 1: you know, That's the thing. Revel in the autonomy of
Speaker 1: of the horrible situation that you are in until until, until,
Speaker 1: until you reach the light at the end of the
Speaker 1: tunnel where you get to be a mechanical engineer.
Speaker 16: Man, M exactly, Bro, you know, just four years and
Speaker 16: then after this I won't have to.
Speaker 4: Worry about it.
Speaker 1: Or you have a brand aneurysm, or you get cancer
Speaker 1: and die, or someone kills you, you get hit by
Speaker 1: a car. I mean, look, death, this is an ever
Speaker 1: present thing, you know, so joy enjoy life while it lasts.
Speaker 16: M hey man, Same for you, Man, you're the guy
Speaker 16: trick man.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Man. You have a the rest of the night,
Speaker 1: you too.
Speaker 2: Bro goes on the line, taking your phone calls every
Speaker 2: night ever, teaching your