Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football
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Speaker 1: He is hanging with the boys, presented by Wing Stuff
Speaker 1: where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross. Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: it's Monday. It ain't hard to get up from Monday.
Speaker 1: When you get down like we do, let's go ready, wow, Monday,
Speaker 1: when you get down down here them buy you. Oh,
Speaker 1: we got a special guest producer today. Who we got?
Speaker 1: Who we got? Rocking the mic and the board in
Speaker 1: the back. Awesome, Yep, go shower, Beamer's up. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's all you. That's all you're gonna get beam Ball. No,
Speaker 1: you ain't get my picture up there, bro, Sorry, now,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen. Okay, how are y'all? How are you? Nate?
Speaker 1: Great man? You started it off right? You started to
Speaker 1: show off right. How's that like? Getting no Kurt in
Speaker 1: his hair off the air, with hair getting thick? We
Speaker 1: were just admiring Kurt's locks. Yes, you grow back darker too, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No, how you doing Jess. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm so so, I'm a little I'm a little sad today.
Speaker 1: Why why it's Kobe by day? Yeah, I text you
Speaker 1: guys when what we're gonna do a show? You know?
Speaker 1: Was half I was gonna be crying and moaning yeah
Speaker 1: about this morning? Did you really? Yeah? Man? I was.
Speaker 1: Is that your guy growing up? Yeah? So he was
Speaker 1: one of your one of your hero reporations really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah I was. It's like eighth and eighth grade, and
Speaker 1: I begged a big bag bag bag, one of the
Speaker 1: guys who helped raise me. Begged him, man, take me
Speaker 1: to see this guy Ahillily that everybody keep talking about
Speaker 1: because Jersey and Philli is about an hour and fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes away. I'm like, please take me to see I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody take me, please, please take me to go see
Speaker 1: him play. And he took me and I was just like,
Speaker 1: that's my guy, you know, And then he went on,
Speaker 1: Yeah I was in eighth grade. Because I got into
Speaker 1: high school. He went on to the NBA and it
Speaker 1: was Kobe everything. I wore twenty four because in high
Speaker 1: school you couldn't wear eight. You can't wear eight in
Speaker 1: high school. Numbers like that yeah, so I wore twenty
Speaker 1: four two times four was eight. So I wore twenty
Speaker 1: four and eventually he changed it twenty four. I try
Speaker 1: to like play like him, and yeah, so he was
Speaker 1: He was my guy for really, really, really really, I
Speaker 1: mean long time, long, long, long, long time. And so
Speaker 1: I get a chance to meet him. Yeah. No, I
Speaker 1: was always afraid because I never wanted my I never
Speaker 1: wanted my Yeah, I never wanted that to be crushed
Speaker 1: because I've been around some people who are stars and
Speaker 1: are complete yep, that's what they say, never meet and
Speaker 1: I'm like, man like, and that happened to me. Quick
Speaker 1: side story. One of my favorite R and B groups,
Speaker 1: favorite R and B groups is Joe to Ce favorite
Speaker 1: Jody Love Joe to CETI I I still do. Was
Speaker 1: in I was headed to Atlanta for a Memorial Day
Speaker 1: weekend about three or four years ago. Flights got delayed
Speaker 1: like three or four times. So anytime you're in like
Speaker 1: the holding area, you just started meeting people. And so
Speaker 1: I met this group of young ladies who are actually
Speaker 1: going there as well, and so we just started kicking
Speaker 1: it and start I'm like, hey, I watched their back
Speaker 1: when they went to the bathroom. They watched mine when
Speaker 1: I went to the bathroom. We were there a full
Speaker 1: day Casey and Joejoe was also in the same terminal
Speaker 1: as us. I'm like, oh, that's gay. But they thought
Speaker 1: that I was with the young ladies, which I wasn't,
Speaker 1: and they was trying to, you know, get them to
Speaker 1: come of their parties and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So they're like talking like, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: with that suck over. They talking about me, they calling
Speaker 1: me a sucker, like that you don't want to don't
Speaker 1: want to hang out with him for the weekend. He
Speaker 1: ain't got no money. We you know we Casey. I
Speaker 1: was so hurt that, like they just kicked my back in.
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, I don't understand. I seen y'all show
Speaker 1: was like at the top of my lungs. So I
Speaker 1: was hurt that my favorite group, Casey, you know, Casey
Speaker 1: and Joe Joe's he was kicking my back into the airport.
Speaker 1: There was dirty back into some girls and I didn't
Speaker 1: even want so I never wanted to. I always admired
Speaker 1: him from afar Um, was in place with him, but
Speaker 1: never did it because I was like, man if he
Speaker 1: dissed me. If I go and speaking, he'd be like,
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here. I might have to
Speaker 1: fight him. Crush, just ruining it. I'll be crushed, not me.
Speaker 1: But I met mine and League Street right. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'm good, was he to man he was putting on
Speaker 1: his shows. He waved. He waved better than um that
Speaker 1: than I ever be with people. You know, with people
Speaker 1: because I'm not you just can't walk up to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you just can't walk up to me.
Speaker 1: But everybody he had the apport. I was with the
Speaker 1: Red Skins at the time, you know, and and uh,
Speaker 1: I was in a hotel. Man. He was just putting
Speaker 1: on the show for like an hour, you know. He
Speaker 1: had slight of hand tricks and stuff like just an hour.
Speaker 1: And I finally got a chance to say, I just
Speaker 1: want to shake your hand and say hello. Man, he was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome to say. I don't I don't ask
Speaker 1: for much from my stars. I just I always believe
Speaker 1: that if you if you walk up to me and
Speaker 1: say hello, how you know what miss noon? Now? How
Speaker 1: you doing? Nay, I'm saying hello, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: I have a great day? That's all I want I
Speaker 1: don't need no pictures. No, that's all I want. You
Speaker 1: ever met anybody human, met anybody that that you did?
Speaker 1: You were like, Okay, that was a better experience than
Speaker 1: I ever could have thought. Michael Jordan, Yes, sir, really jail. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard. I've heard he could be kind of standoffice
Speaker 1: and to his to his teammates, he can ye general public,
Speaker 1: he's been different. Michael Jordan. Where do you meet him? At?
Speaker 1: You and he came in, Uh, we played horse like
Speaker 1: I got a chance to see Michael Jordan, one of
Speaker 1: the grizzies I've ever seen. So we're in the weight
Speaker 1: room before practice and he comes in there and like
Speaker 1: you've heard of Michael Jordan. You're like, yes, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: But to have the man standing in the same room
Speaker 1: when she was a different like, he looks like I
Speaker 1: guess to me at that moment, he looked like some
Speaker 1: sort of god, right, larger than yeah, and the largest
Speaker 1: hand you'll ever shake, like the that's how man, the
Speaker 1: largest hand you'll ever shake. And he came to practice
Speaker 1: and he kicked it with us and we played horse
Speaker 1: and it was after practice. We're all just shooting around
Speaker 1: at the practice and he called one of the ball
Speaker 1: boys over. Now, this was when Dean Smith was still alive.
Speaker 1: So Dean Smith had a office in the Dean Doome,
Speaker 1: no matter what, he had an office there. It was
Speaker 1: off in the cut. So he comes out, You got
Speaker 1: Roy Williams out there, you got Dean Smith out there,
Speaker 1: and you got Michael Jordan's shooting around. And Mike is
Speaker 1: just shooting like you know, elbow jump shots, boom, jogging clothes,
Speaker 1: sweater jeans, boom. HiT's about three or four in a row.
Speaker 1: So he yells out to Coach Smith. He goes, Coach,
Speaker 1: I bet you one hundred, I can hit ten in
Speaker 1: a row. Coach said, I bet you another hundred. You
Speaker 1: can't hit ten in a row left handed. And when
Speaker 1: I say, Michael Jordan in the drop of a don
Speaker 1: looked at Coach Smith, looked at the ball boy said
Speaker 1: and rattled off sixth straight left handed. And he missed
Speaker 1: the tenth water but he rattled off like and you
Speaker 1: would have thought he was naturally left hand. He hit it, bang,
Speaker 1: what's the other side? Bang, sixth straight like it was
Speaker 1: fluid like fluid and just smooth left hand fifteen sixteen
Speaker 1: foot jump shots and I'm sitting there like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Michael Jordan's do this like it was just
Speaker 1: a greatest thing ever. It was a greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: And then I but then I met Tiger Woods and
Speaker 1: he wasn't able. Tyger wasn't able. Yeah, wasn't a right
Speaker 1: Valley ranche. Really. I'm gonna tell you something, man, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm witchie, Mike, Mike, legit, Man, if you catch him
Speaker 1: in the right setting. It's all about settings, man, that
Speaker 1: It's all about settings. Now, some people ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: treat you right, like Tiger. I ain't shocked. I ain't
Speaker 1: shocked by Tiger Woods. Some people you are to look
Speaker 1: on their TV and say that that's him, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, man, but hey man,
Speaker 1: hang on, Kurt, Kurt, you interviewed, you interviewed a lot
Speaker 1: of people, breastball guys, a lot of athletes over the
Speaker 1: baseball guy. Anybody that disappointed you, And is there anybody
Speaker 1: that like you were like, you know what, that's a
Speaker 1: good dude. Most of them are good dudes. I've been
Speaker 1: pretty lucky. I mean, they've been handful. Who is the worst.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who I mean, nobody's bad. They're
Speaker 1: not bad, but they just don't give you a good answer.
Speaker 1: It's just like you're pulling teeth. It's just one word answer. Well,
Speaker 1: who is yours best? Or both? Both? Probably the best?
Speaker 1: Mantel Jordan hands down one of the nicest human beings
Speaker 1: I have ever met. Like family man, you know he
Speaker 1: mentors couples. Uh, just a just a good dude. Yes, worst,
Speaker 1: I'm not real sure, like a lot of and I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's because of this job, because you
Speaker 1: have something common. You know that I get to meet
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and that you have that you know,
Speaker 1: that football cowboy fan mentality, so you you kind of
Speaker 1: feed off each other. So nobody's really a jerk. I
Speaker 1: don't really know if I'm sure there is one. Let
Speaker 1: me think about it. But Montel's fired though, Bro. But
Speaker 1: the best time man star that I meant is Mama Girls.
Speaker 1: That's the best. I agree, Yeah, that's the best star.
Speaker 1: Yall have no idea. Say one of your old former
Speaker 1: teammates is a tough dude to be around, Dudu. M Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got it. It's all about the setting with him.
Speaker 1: It's because Emma is you're teld me the dude is
Speaker 1: digested every motive. Mo. He'll look at Kurt, Okay, do
Speaker 1: you really want to interview? Was just about some foolishness
Speaker 1: I mean, and he'll challenge you. When he was on
Speaker 1: that show, that Legend show us last year, you would
Speaker 1: say something, he'd be like why, Yeah, what for? Why
Speaker 1: would I do that? Yeah? I just asked a question.
Speaker 1: He wasn't in my time in the Cowboys locker room.
Speaker 1: He wasn't the most well received. Oh no, he by
Speaker 1: players at that time and didn't care and don't care.
Speaker 1: You're already saying about that. Yeah, Dak take twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Take twenty eight. You should have been calling him like
Speaker 1: stop you. They ask me next next day, and I
Speaker 1: asked that that is in it, and uh, that is
Speaker 1: what we telling you. We we we was moved. We
Speaker 1: should played the hoops the hoop I told yourself who
Speaker 1: was the hoopsters? And it's eight or nine of us
Speaker 1: and were trying to get all our luggage moved from
Speaker 1: one flight to the next. We gotta make this flight
Speaker 1: in Florida, and these bell hops or whatever you call them,
Speaker 1: baggage man like moving on slow and I'm like, fellas,
Speaker 1: what's up, y'all don't want to tip? Well, uh, your
Speaker 1: partner just came through him. We moved like eighty backs
Speaker 1: from him, and this time he didn't do nothing for us.
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of knowing who this about? What partner
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And the smell and he told
Speaker 1: we better be lacking that. He even talked to us
Speaker 1: as a cowboy, like bro, he gonna, hey, gonna fifty
Speaker 1: bulls getting the boom. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: dispute that you played for the cowboys. Who yeah, yeah, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want no good at it. But I had fun.
Speaker 1: I tell people like this here, we had a mixed
Speaker 1: bag of guys and like, Emmy, it ain't nothing he
Speaker 1: won't do for me and nothing I want to do
Speaker 1: for him. But so different, I mean so different, you know, Emmy, Emmy,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you can walk with him. And hey, man,
Speaker 1: I'm mister Jarry Jones cousin. I wanted you say hello
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Speaker 1: where we're going with that, that's just in it. That's
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Speaker 1: up in Indianapolis this week. Yep? What are they up
Speaker 1: there for? Kurt scouting Combine the Combine Underwear Olympics. Underwear
Speaker 1: Olympics is as Nate likes to refer to it, and
Speaker 1: the league has done a really good job of taking
Speaker 1: events and making them spectacles and making them made for TV.
Speaker 1: They've done it with the Combine, they're now doing it
Speaker 1: with the Draft, which you know, who used to care
Speaker 1: about the Draft? And now it's like this big deal.
Speaker 1: Not only on TV. But now it's a destination and everything.
Speaker 1: So the combine this week. Do teams get anything out
Speaker 1: of the combine other than is the most important thing
Speaker 1: they get to be able to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to these guys and just the eye test. Is there
Speaker 1: anything else? Do they make a big deal out of
Speaker 1: this for nothing just for TV and to keep football relevant?
Speaker 1: Or is there some good stuff that league in itself
Speaker 1: and the commissioner and his people make it big because
Speaker 1: it's always about setting for them, it's always about sponsorship.
Speaker 1: Now it's primetime. A lot of these solid the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: I think Friday, Thursday and Friday be on primetime TV.
Speaker 1: But for coaches, last year it is combined. The receiver
Speaker 1: for for the Seattle Seahawks, DK Metcalf. He went from
Speaker 1: a third fourth round pick to the man just overnight.
Speaker 1: Cause any combines we've seen it happen. Man, our guy here,
Speaker 1: our corner who we decided whether went from just a
Speaker 1: good guy to a warrior workout guy barn Jones. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now a lot of these guys fail, but a few
Speaker 1: do make it. So this combine, they kind of know
Speaker 1: who they're going to look at. They kind of know
Speaker 1: what their needs are, but they just want to a
Speaker 1: lot of times see these guys talk to them and
Speaker 1: just get their hands on them. Man that their medical
Speaker 1: staff run through them. It's big, man, it's big. I mean.
Speaker 1: So there's value too, it's a lot of Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of value. My personal opinion, there's more value
Speaker 1: off the field than it. Actually it's on the field
Speaker 1: first and foremost the medicals. Right, I'm getting ready to
Speaker 1: you invest the guys who are going to the combine
Speaker 1: or guys who are most likely going to be your
Speaker 1: high picks right your first, second, possibly third round. So
Speaker 1: teams are saying, I'm getting ready to invest a lot
Speaker 1: of time, energy, money, franchises putting on some of these
Speaker 1: players back. So let me make sure my medicals are
Speaker 1: in place. And then the second part is because we've
Speaker 1: come so far in technology now with everything with I
Speaker 1: mean literally whether it's a computer or whether it's your
Speaker 1: cell phone, I can get any tape, any any video, anything,
Speaker 1: any workout that I want right here, right. But what
Speaker 1: I want to be able to sit down, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and look you in the white of your
Speaker 1: eyes and ask you questions and see and get a
Speaker 1: feel because sometimes having a conversation. We've all done it.
Speaker 1: You know, you can text some Miley, you can have
Speaker 1: comms on the phone and it may not go over
Speaker 1: as well as to where I'm sitting right across from
Speaker 1: me and you're looking in my eyes. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: your eyes, and I get a feel. It's you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes people and everybody has their quarks about they have
Speaker 1: their list of he has to be this or that
Speaker 1: or this or that. Sometimes it comes down to how
Speaker 1: did I feel when I was in the room with
Speaker 1: Nate Newton, How did I feel when I was in
Speaker 1: the room sitting with Kurt Daniels, And that could take
Speaker 1: it from I didn't feel it. You know, there may
Speaker 1: be some things there, But when I sat down with Nate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when I sit down with Shannon, yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: other offensive linement comparable and and and in attributes, but
Speaker 1: the feeling was different when I sat down with you,
Speaker 1: and it was to to Nate. So I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest value that they're doing it. The stuff on
Speaker 1: the field that's more just for show and to sell
Speaker 1: the product. Like Nate was saying, it's always about keeping
Speaker 1: our product relevant, selling our product. And now we're able
Speaker 1: to brand these guys. When you have a DK metcalf
Speaker 1: colling the shirt off and you see all that, people
Speaker 1: want to come see you. Well, they'd like a specimen.
Speaker 1: What does he look like? So they want to sell
Speaker 1: their product. But the most important things to me is
Speaker 1: when you get a chance to sit down and talk
Speaker 1: to the guys and and get the medicals. Kirk, how
Speaker 1: many guys do they get to talk to you during
Speaker 1: this because there's a little more regimented. Now you can
Speaker 1: bring thirty in here, right, you can bring thirty thirty
Speaker 1: for your thirty in house business. So I don't know
Speaker 1: how many of you can do it. Beam. You shouldn't
Speaker 1: know that you'll get eighteen minutes. Yeah, it used to
Speaker 1: be where you just grab guys a little more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get to interview every single guy. But it's like
Speaker 1: they it's like uh, like you said, it's like regiment.
Speaker 1: It's like fifteen minutes. They blow a horn. Everybody rotate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like every day. Yeah, it's like exactly, yeah, and you
Speaker 1: try to get as many questions in that particular time
Speaker 1: and then they blow the whistle and then you go
Speaker 1: the next next group. So Beam, do they do they
Speaker 1: take the information they get at the combine and then
Speaker 1: decide who they want to bring in for their thirty visits.
Speaker 1: Is that how it works? Uh? Yeah, But I think
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like, uh that they bring guys back here
Speaker 1: that they didn't get to talk to, like the ownership
Speaker 1: didn't talk to or does that make sense? I don't
Speaker 1: think Jerry's there every single interview, right, So you want
Speaker 1: to bring him in, Hey, check this guy out. We'll
Speaker 1: show him the facility of that kind of stuff. Did
Speaker 1: you get to feel him out at the combat? A
Speaker 1: little bit more? More? Here you can get your guys
Speaker 1: on them, the position coaches and that kind of stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're watching any of the combine, Kirk? You know if
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna stop down whatever I'm doing and watch,
Speaker 1: if I'm hanging out and doesn't have anything going on
Speaker 1: but all things defense? Oh yeah, I'm not here We
Speaker 1: go again? Here we go? How many picks all of them?
Speaker 1: If we have seven picks, I would like our first
Speaker 1: four to be all defense. And if a guy is say,
Speaker 1: can follow us, and he's at fourteen or fifteen, and
Speaker 1: we don't have to give up a filth and of
Speaker 1: six and maybe a fourth and to move up these
Speaker 1: two got I won't playmaker's galore on defense. We've spent
Speaker 1: all the money on our offense, you know, and I
Speaker 1: hate keep hearing people saying, well, but if we can
Speaker 1: get a first one ride receiver, No, fellas, No, we
Speaker 1: gave up a first round pick to get a Marii Cooper.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna spend another first round pick to get
Speaker 1: another guy. Now we got Gallup, We got this guy
Speaker 1: sitting on the bench. We got Amari Cooper, We got
Speaker 1: the backup guys that that flash. Last year, we had
Speaker 1: the gop Morehouse state that flash. Last year, we didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of him. I'm saying to myself, out
Speaker 1: of one hundred and eighty two million dollars last year,
Speaker 1: we spent fifty four million on defense, and we did
Speaker 1: not get our money's worth, even though it was only
Speaker 1: fifty four million. For some reason, whether it was injury,
Speaker 1: whether it was lack of interest. We need playmakers on defense,
Speaker 1: and now we don't. We don't know what this new
Speaker 1: staff value, what positions, but I'm hoping this everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't go in, they don't go in focusing on defense, right,
Speaker 1: the best player, Yeah, the best player, because what if
Speaker 1: you got a lineman that's like number two on your board.
Speaker 1: Defense a linement is number two on your board. Of
Speaker 1: office linement is number two on your board. And the
Speaker 1: next closest guys the defense a guy he number four
Speaker 1: five on your board. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta
Speaker 1: go get the offense a linement because it's just like that.
Speaker 1: It helps your team better than the long run. They
Speaker 1: waiting on this dude and drafting him in the four
Speaker 1: in the third round and he's a projected six that
Speaker 1: don't work well because you have a new coaching staff
Speaker 1: and you don't know yet maybe what they want. Is
Speaker 1: it tougher this year for Will McClay and his group, Uh?
Speaker 1: Not no, Because even though they say, hey, this is
Speaker 1: this type of guy, we like this, when they look
Speaker 1: at the guy like hey, we like big receivers like Jesse, Okay,
Speaker 1: they can look at them, but they they're gonna also say, coach,
Speaker 1: and it ain't not out there, you know, not in
Speaker 1: the first four rounds, just some five and six rounds.
Speaker 1: You know, you may want to take the shot at
Speaker 1: it's just will am going and gonna try to match
Speaker 1: what you want. But it's still gonna take a year
Speaker 1: or two to really see what you want because coaches,
Speaker 1: that's why they didn't go to the combine. These coaches
Speaker 1: are more so locked in on what we have here
Speaker 1: and free agency. We should not ignore this year because
Speaker 1: if you use free agency right which they've been trying
Speaker 1: to ryan him were hit with Queenn and Cobbs last year.
Speaker 1: Is those are the stop gap guys until you can
Speaker 1: draft guys. How does that work if A is it
Speaker 1: the coordinators that decide what type of guy they like?
Speaker 1: Or is it the position coaches? Position go into the coordinators.
Speaker 1: So the position coach says, I like long range, yeah, dbs.
Speaker 1: The officive coordinator knows what type of player he likes.
Speaker 1: But and Jesse, you makeing speak on this more of me.
Speaker 1: Some quarterbacks do better with big receivers. Some quarterback that's
Speaker 1: more accurate do better with a little small like Damn Reno.
Speaker 1: It didn't matter. You can be four foot three, he
Speaker 1: can find you get you know what I'm saying. Other
Speaker 1: guys do better like Ailway. As good as he was,
Speaker 1: he always had big receivers. I think I think I
Speaker 1: think it might be I think it's flipped. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I think your coordinators your offensive deepens according to saying,
Speaker 1: here's what we're running. We're running four three three four.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be a press team. We're gonna be a
Speaker 1: zone team. Whatever it is offenses, we're gonna be shotgun.
Speaker 1: Three receivers who do Okay, Now, what are what are
Speaker 1: my strengths? For example, Dak Prescott, he needs route runners, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: he needs offensively at the receiver position. He can't have
Speaker 1: guys who can't if he got if guys can't get open,
Speaker 1: he's not the guy who's gonna throw you open or
Speaker 1: throwing a really tight windows. You gotta get open. That's
Speaker 1: why Amari Cooper was such a special piece that was added. Gallop, Cobb,
Speaker 1: even Jason went to a certain extent and Blake drawing,
Speaker 1: because those guys are route runners. They're not just guys
Speaker 1: who are gonna go out there and and and do
Speaker 1: their own things, you know, toss up football. So now
Speaker 1: I go to the draft saying, if we bring guys
Speaker 1: in here, we want to bring guys in here that
Speaker 1: are going to be able to run routes because that's
Speaker 1: what our offense calls for. We're not gonna be a
Speaker 1: vertical deep offense. Because our quarterback doesn't have the arm
Speaker 1: to throw the ball. You know, twenty times a game,
Speaker 1: forty fifty plus yards down the field, we're gonna be.
Speaker 1: Our offense gonna be mainly so you know, ten to
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty yards we're gonna be in that. So
Speaker 1: I need guys who can get open in those spaces. Defensively,
Speaker 1: what are we going to be defensively? All right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be a four three three four whatever. Now I'll
Speaker 1: start plugging those guys in the place. I look at
Speaker 1: my roster and say, here's what we have. These guys
Speaker 1: I think can fit, but we need we need we
Speaker 1: need a guy in the middle, right, So now I
Speaker 1: need a guy in the middle who's athletic, who is
Speaker 1: going to be a run stopper. Look for that guy,
Speaker 1: my cornerbacks. What kind of cornerbacks are you looking for? Coach, Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be a press I can tell you now
Speaker 1: with Al Harris out there since the last week, Al
Speaker 1: Harris is gonna teach press. So hes gonna want guys
Speaker 1: with long arms, who can turn and transition, who ain't
Speaker 1: afraid to get up in your face. So, now when
Speaker 1: I go to a combine and they're doing the measurements
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Oh, we like that
Speaker 1: corner he Oh, look at his hips when when they
Speaker 1: do that drill where he back pedals, opens up, opens up,
Speaker 1: and then turns and run. I need to see that
Speaker 1: because these are the I'm gonna have my guys up
Speaker 1: in their face and if they can't turn and run.
Speaker 1: When a receiver go to turn and run, he can't
Speaker 1: be in my defense. Because we're not playing zone, We're
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of man man and man in
Speaker 1: and faith. So I think. And then your position coaches,
Speaker 1: they coach what you give them. They help develop what
Speaker 1: you give them. The coordinators and the head coach say,
Speaker 1: here's what we have on our Roster's what we're looking
Speaker 1: to add to our roster. You all you are, you
Speaker 1: position coaches. What we give you. I pay you work.
Speaker 1: I pay you two hundred thousand dollars a year, twenty
Speaker 1: five thousan dollars a year to make this work. I
Speaker 1: coach you so you can coach to correct. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm looking at some stuff too, because they're changing up
Speaker 1: a little bit. There's there's forty five. You're now a
Speaker 1: lot of forty five interviews at them at the combine
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. But they're also changing up the drills. They're
Speaker 1: adding more drills, sixteen drills. Yeah, it ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: all them new, but I'm saying sixty right. They're adding
Speaker 1: time to the Galla drill with the receiver catches. They're
Speaker 1: here here and he run down, so that they're trying
Speaker 1: to time it now how fast you can get across
Speaker 1: that line and tracking the ball. They're doing more w drills.
Speaker 1: They're doing more drills that are related to the game.
Speaker 1: But also they went back and they looked at the
Speaker 1: TV ratings, what what drills that people most tune into.
Speaker 1: Of course, first and foremost is the forty. Right, everyone
Speaker 1: see who we run the facts, So the forty is
Speaker 1: always the most watched drill for any position, but mainly
Speaker 1: when you got your running backs and your receivers and
Speaker 1: those your dbs. Uh, then it's like the gauntlet drills
Speaker 1: and things like that. So they're taking those instead of
Speaker 1: just making them side pieces, making the main events so
Speaker 1: now you can watch those things have been moved around
Speaker 1: so that those drills become prime time when people get home,
Speaker 1: not at work or their jobs. They can actually sit
Speaker 1: down at the house and watch the forty or when
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are thrown to the receivers, or the dbs
Speaker 1: are doing their drills. The fat guys no offence. They
Speaker 1: want the sexy guys. You know what you know. I
Speaker 1: don't care about an offensive guard on a combine day
Speaker 1: if he can get out and pull. That's why they
Speaker 1: sh everybody's out shopping every right. But I want to
Speaker 1: see I want to see to a throw. I want
Speaker 1: to see guys throw. I want to see receivers run routes.
Speaker 1: I want to see all those things are being moved
Speaker 1: to more prime time uh schedulings so that you can
Speaker 1: see them as a main feature instead of just because
Speaker 1: sometime you'll have it where they have so much going on.
Speaker 1: I didn't cut to a guy and then cut to
Speaker 1: something else and then cut to a guy. They're making
Speaker 1: them watch this. Yeah, you brought you brought up to
Speaker 1: A came out last week that someone asked him where
Speaker 1: he would go if he could choose, and he said, well,
Speaker 1: he grew up a cowboy fan, so obviously he would.
Speaker 1: That has absolutely nothing to do when teams are looking
Speaker 1: at a guy. If a guy wants to be somewhere,
Speaker 1: is it? It's fun for the fans, It sounds he
Speaker 1: gonna get it, sounds good, it's fun for us for fans.
Speaker 1: But game he played, bro, there's no way what you
Speaker 1: have to give up to get there? So why does
Speaker 1: why doesn't it matter if someone says it, But it
Speaker 1: matters if someone says, well, I don't right now, your
Speaker 1: guy Joe Burrow, Right, there's little talks about him saying, well,
Speaker 1: if they draft me, they draft me. They're like, wait,
Speaker 1: you don't want to go number one to the Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: So it's like him not saying, oh, man, I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to be the number one overall pick and get
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati. So him not saying that, it's like a
Speaker 1: front offers you gotta kind of like take a step
Speaker 1: back now and go, well, will he do what Eli
Speaker 1: Manning did and say he's not coming? Because now now
Speaker 1: I can't put all my eggs in one basket with
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow because of his answer. Right. So it's like, well,
Speaker 1: if it doesn't matter when a guy says he wants
Speaker 1: to be here, then it shouldn't matter if he doesn't.
Speaker 1: But when he says he doesn't, that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: And I think it's the same thing if a guy said,
Speaker 1: like tour now when we get the tour, probably not,
Speaker 1: probably not. But you want to be wanted. That's everybody
Speaker 1: in the world. You I want to be one. It
Speaker 1: tell you something. I want somebody to say they want
Speaker 1: Jay Holley. Let me say something. You do not want
Speaker 1: to be the Cincinnati Bengals and here the top picks.
Speaker 1: You do not want it? That the Cowboys? You know Jerry, Like,
Speaker 1: we've talked about that all week on the once that
Speaker 1: kid I had to put out so many five years
Speaker 1: because that kid said, I say, I'm not going there.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna play with dad. But since
Speaker 1: we do have to talk about it, just what do
Speaker 1: you get You got to give up the house to us?
Speaker 1: What are you that fifth top five pick depends on
Speaker 1: his medicals? What if they say he's helping now this
Speaker 1: is just the rumor, this is just the rum they
Speaker 1: say healing fastening it. You know, it's like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. So they projected that he is gonna be
Speaker 1: everything that showed him to be. What if, just just
Speaker 1: for fun nate, you don't have a participate since you
Speaker 1: don't want to put fires out. What if, just for
Speaker 1: medical concerns, all those medicals come back. Okay, they're gonna
Speaker 1: come back. Okay. Watch and then he winds up and
Speaker 1: he's he's at thirteen or fourteen. Hell, what if he
Speaker 1: falls to you at seventeen and Dad hasn't signed his
Speaker 1: deal yet? Would you just be like, you know what
Speaker 1: we got. We can lock this guy for the next
Speaker 1: four years, got a rookie at a rookie contract, and
Speaker 1: we'll take our chance. Do you know how much more
Speaker 1: you can sign? Oh, how many pieces you can put
Speaker 1: around him? If you're gonna get two at seventeen, Now,
Speaker 1: don't say nothing, because you have to put out fires
Speaker 1: at some point in time. If you get into this conversation.
Speaker 1: But if two of falls, look if two and falls
Speaker 1: to seventeen, if he falls to fifteen, you gotta think
Speaker 1: about it. Huh. You gotta start getting the phone, like
Speaker 1: what guys want to move up too? Spots and you
Speaker 1: grab that quarterback because you still got some time. You
Speaker 1: got a little time, because you got a new head coach.
Speaker 1: You grab that quarterback. You let Dak walk and now
Speaker 1: you got so much more more you can talk about
Speaker 1: now you can go get another corner. You can go
Speaker 1: get some more defensive lineman. You can get another receiver.
Speaker 1: You can you can you can you can go get
Speaker 1: Tyrant's replacement for the future. I mean a big fat,
Speaker 1: greasy guy in the middle. You can go get three
Speaker 1: four pieces with that. You can sign a Maria. You
Speaker 1: can sign ain't falling. There ain't a fantasy with your guys, Kurt.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? Because all right, Kurt, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this. If he starts falling, where would he
Speaker 1: have to fall to for you to honestly be like,
Speaker 1: we got to pick the phone. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know all the level you know, I'm giving up this
Speaker 1: and that. Whatever I would say, eleven he gets out
Speaker 1: of the top of your phone, your phone is being
Speaker 1: picked up at eleven. If he said at eleven, I'm
Speaker 1: like this, where's that chart? So what do you want?
Speaker 1: How about we sign and give you DAC and this
Speaker 1: and in the next year's first round and we move
Speaker 1: up and give you a second I'm giving I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I was sha I was gonna ask you, guys, because
Speaker 1: we talked about doc a couple of weeks ago. If
Speaker 1: you look at the list of free agent quarterbacks. This
Speaker 1: is a dangerous game to be playing this year in
Speaker 1: my opinion, because there's some guys out there dangerous Ford. Yes, why,
Speaker 1: I just think there's some guys out there that are
Speaker 1: who serviceable quarterbacks. I'm not saying any of them are
Speaker 1: as good as Dad. Who you got? B Winston? No
Speaker 1: mentioned none of the old you got? What's the guy?
Speaker 1: Both of the guys Mariota and uh Tannehill? Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the only person that to me, this is just
Speaker 1: me that is maybe one and a half is Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford is a guy yeh Bridgewater and no, no, Matthew Stafford. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not on him. Matthew Stafford and I think the
Speaker 1: only other guy and I'm not on them. But I'm
Speaker 1: just thinking ties Andy Dalton. M hmm. See, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even have he wouldn't even even been on my radar.
Speaker 1: But what if you let's just say, let's take a
Speaker 1: staff for for instance, right made his money, He's made
Speaker 1: his money. You know, he's got two, three, four, maybe
Speaker 1: five good years left in him. Just been in a
Speaker 1: system that hasn't worked out for him. Says you know what,
Speaker 1: you guys are ready to win. Now, I'll come play
Speaker 1: for twenty five million a year. What do you what
Speaker 1: would you do? I can have Dak at forty or
Speaker 1: I can have this guy that's willing to take a
Speaker 1: pay cut to get the pieces around him to go win.
Speaker 1: Like I just think with some of the names that
Speaker 1: are out there, you got guys not as good as Dak.
Speaker 1: But if I'm gonna have to pay you forty, I'll
Speaker 1: take this guy at twenty twenty five. Makes me have
Speaker 1: to break out the Johnny Walker blue and have conversation.
Speaker 1: Just bring him into Cowboys Club and just have a
Speaker 1: talk like I'm talking about like Stephen and Jerry, Like
Speaker 1: he don't want no part of this conversation. They gotta
Speaker 1: sit down, like you have to have the conversation. What
Speaker 1: does Matt What does Matt Stafford have left? Because he
Speaker 1: hasn't he has the tools? Is he still he free agents?
Speaker 1: He's still in a contract. I think he's a free agent.
Speaker 1: Think he's a free Look it up so we don't
Speaker 1: have to put on this and say, hey, this is
Speaker 1: just talk, fellas. Yes, whether you're planning or not, or
Speaker 1: fantasizing or not. What what you're saying and what you
Speaker 1: what you're getting across, whether you believe it or not.
Speaker 1: If perception is that is not worth He's not good enough. No,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. I think Nate is a business owner. You
Speaker 1: have to weigh all of your options. Yes, you do.
Speaker 1: You can have a great employee and say, you know what,
Speaker 1: we really want to sign them. But before we sign
Speaker 1: him or hurt, let's just check the landscape. Let's check
Speaker 1: like that is doing your due diligence. Let's check the
Speaker 1: landscape of okay, and let's check the percentage of highest
Speaker 1: thing work. All these guys we talked about, every one
Speaker 1: of them, including the college guys, have never done nothing
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Either have never done nothing with the
Speaker 1: teams around him. One guy had Megatron, one of the
Speaker 1: greatest receivers to ever play the game, and then do
Speaker 1: a thing. Were gonna say, let me finish. We're gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a defense, he didn't have this, he
Speaker 1: didn't have that. Brothers, you have said more than one
Speaker 1: time on this show. Jesse, the voice of Reason, has
Speaker 1: told me several times it is the bad coaching. Once
Speaker 1: we get the new coaching, everything would change. Okay, So
Speaker 1: to play this game of what else, you might as
Speaker 1: well just give up two or three draft picks and
Speaker 1: move on up and get the kid from Bama. Try
Speaker 1: to say, hey called Burrows. People say, look at him, man,
Speaker 1: you really don't want to speak his incident. So do
Speaker 1: everything in your power with the rick that that relationship
Speaker 1: a couple of Fellasdak is the man Stafford is signed.
Speaker 1: He's not a free thank you, kurt Is at this point,
Speaker 1: this point here will have fans. No, I stop. I
Speaker 1: think you are the voice of reason. I think Dak
Speaker 1: is the guy to sign. But but but but as
Speaker 1: a businessman, sir, when I'm looking to get a product,
Speaker 1: and get the best product, the best product, I have
Speaker 1: to also look at my bottom dollar. Right if someone
Speaker 1: else is selling a product that is very similar to
Speaker 1: the one that I want or the one that I
Speaker 1: already had, I gotta go and look. Okay, okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta go. I'm doing I'm doing everyone in this building,
Speaker 1: the fifty two guys in the locker room. I'm doing
Speaker 1: everyone a disservice if I don't do my due diligence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to see. I need to stick there because
Speaker 1: I need to go back and say, when I signed
Speaker 1: this thirty seven and a half thirty eight million dollar
Speaker 1: contract per year to this dude, I don't want to
Speaker 1: have any regrets. I don't want to sign this to
Speaker 1: be like what Mat Stofford had been with this or
Speaker 1: what else. So So let me go ahead and say,
Speaker 1: let's talk to him, let's review him, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: have these scenarios before I go and make my decision
Speaker 1: on signing him. Do it. He is our guy. We're
Speaker 1: looking to sign him. This league is so funny to
Speaker 1: the fact that how we'd be amazed, even us as
Speaker 1: ex players and people that y'all work around it every day.
Speaker 1: So y'all are into the football world, and it's amazing
Speaker 1: how we can talk and I leave out of this room,
Speaker 1: and when he and when this radio podcasts go off,
Speaker 1: how it would be like I said that, but I'm
Speaker 1: really thinking that him this bad fall to thirteen. You
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. No, because it's true, it's true thirteen.
Speaker 1: He's in play right right, Things change now things if
Speaker 1: two of falls to thirteen, if two one didn't get hurt.
Speaker 1: A lot of the experts are saying, if he never
Speaker 1: got hurt. Joe Burrow wouldn't be the number one overall pick.
Speaker 1: They're saying he would be. So if he falls to
Speaker 1: thirteen because of medicals, which again I highly doubt. I
Speaker 1: holly doubt he gets past five or six, seven at best.
Speaker 1: I think because Miami's at seven, holly dot he gets
Speaker 1: past that. Um. But yeah, if he gets the thirteen
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen, I'm picking up the phone. I thought he
Speaker 1: would be bigger than that. Again, has Texas ties could
Speaker 1: be red. I'm just saying, I mean, if you can
Speaker 1: get to think about the money, if you got to
Speaker 1: A and you had to give up he gave a
Speaker 1: first round picked for Mark Cooper. Right, If I can
Speaker 1: get to A for a first round even this year,
Speaker 1: next year, you know how much money I can go
Speaker 1: sign in free agency. Now I can go. I can
Speaker 1: go and get Smith and Smith, I can go and
Speaker 1: get I got Byron Jones. On one side, I can
Speaker 1: go get Darius Slay on the other side, I can
Speaker 1: go get me a safety. I canna get me a
Speaker 1: big fat, greasy do it on the inside, sir, that
Speaker 1: would be the happens that you need. But I'm just saying, man,
Speaker 1: I mean we took but two hours to get into football.
Speaker 1: The wow, have we got there? We have arrived at
Speaker 1: curt quarterbacks up at the top of the draft. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they do name my name a few Washington. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're all in on Haskins, Detroit. They ain't
Speaker 1: never all in on anybody. Yeah, sound on Peters in
Speaker 1: the running back. Giants have their guy and Dolphins are fifth,
Speaker 1: Chargers are sixth. I'm gonna tell you what. That's why
Speaker 1: the charge already No, but the charges have already said said.
Speaker 1: A few teams are like they've already cleared the way
Speaker 1: the charge is cleared the way they're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers love you. We ain't gonna pay you. That
Speaker 1: puts Tour and play for them. Yeah, that puts And
Speaker 1: so Miami, y'all cannot mess up again. Y'all throw away
Speaker 1: a guy and all of a sudden he in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and the AFC Championship, Miami Kennedy, So they can't
Speaker 1: mess up again. So that's what I'm saying. It's too
Speaker 1: many teams up there, like Tour. We know you don't
Speaker 1: like us, but we're gonna sell you a part of
Speaker 1: the team. It's the Bengals, you know, I mean not
Speaker 1: Tour but the other kid Burrows. Because when I heard that, Jesse,
Speaker 1: when a guy like I'm not Eli all over again,
Speaker 1: you know, alway all over again. I ain't playing for y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all can do what you want, you know. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take our last break. Can we come back? Kinnessy?
Speaker 1: League football? Isn't it fun? Yeah, you're messing up. I
Speaker 1: started the conversation a reason. Coming crazy over here. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's fun to think about. I mean, that's what the
Speaker 1: drafts all about. Dak. I love you. I do too, Dak.
Speaker 1: I hope you're here. Next year, he will be here.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about they can tag him starting tomorrow, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta wait two days, two days, it's a twenty seventh thousand. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: about franchise tags and stuff and such. The CBA. The
Speaker 1: owners agreed to it last week. Players are considering it.
Speaker 1: What are the two big things out of it? Kurt Well,
Speaker 1: The ones you hear about are the playoffs expanding to
Speaker 1: fourteen teams in the season, expanding to seventeen. That's that's
Speaker 1: kind of two main in three playoffs, three preseason games.
Speaker 1: They cut back to three preseason games at an extra
Speaker 1: regular season. They're gonna get to eighteen games eventually. But
Speaker 1: explain to me who gets the extra home game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so weird. That odd seventeen is who gets? Actually,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You're not playing all of
Speaker 1: them in the national talked about somebody the reason because
Speaker 1: it gives people to international so you don't lose. You
Speaker 1: can see have your home games. Now our game get
Speaker 1: to the everybody has their own game. Everybody would have
Speaker 1: an international game. You could do that because they're they're
Speaker 1: doing Mexico, they're doing UK, they want to get into Germany,
Speaker 1: they want to get into Brazil. So you've got enough.
Speaker 1: Everybody could play it. I mean they could go to
Speaker 1: Portland or Torino or you know cities that don't have teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let me have it. Let me say quick sidebar. I
Speaker 1: know the NFL wants to get like the NBA and
Speaker 1: have a global brand. Roger Goodell, if you're listening to me,
Speaker 1: he's not. If you're listening, you never know, he may be.
Speaker 1: He may be listening to our podcast on his run, right,
Speaker 1: have the super Bowl and like, well, I would say
Speaker 1: China or Tokyo, but we ain't going there right now
Speaker 1: with the coronavirus. But like Dubai, one of these places
Speaker 1: where it can get really like, you're gonna Dubai. They're
Speaker 1: gonna set it up nice, all the cheeks and all
Speaker 1: the old money over there. If you want to take
Speaker 1: this thing globally, go to like Dubai or Tokyo, or
Speaker 1: have it somewhere like that, or the super Bowl. For
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, that's a good point because no one's
Speaker 1: getting the home field advantage anyway. Right, people just go
Speaker 1: to party for the scene. It's not like your fans
Speaker 1: are and people are saying, well as trust me, if
Speaker 1: the super Bowl was in Dubai, you won't have to
Speaker 1: You probably can't afford regular fans. Probably couldn't have four tickets.
Speaker 1: But the stadium will be packed due by they would.
Speaker 1: They would go build you a stadium exactly for two
Speaker 1: hundred thousand people, and it would be done within a
Speaker 1: year exactly. If you wanted to play that exactly, they
Speaker 1: would get it done. They have all the nice sweets
Speaker 1: and so you'll have all the famous people to be
Speaker 1: there because all the entertainers, all the actors and actresses
Speaker 1: and rappers and singers and all that, because everybody wants
Speaker 1: to go to Dubai and show off their wealth. So
Speaker 1: you'll easily, you'll easily fill that place up. You do,
Speaker 1: you do it a hundred thousand and ninety thousand seat
Speaker 1: stadium if you want to go to blank globally. You
Speaker 1: heard it here first. Did anybody watch the fight this weekend? Yes?
Speaker 1: And now next time I see him, I'm not taking
Speaker 1: a picture with him. I'm not afraid of man. He
Speaker 1: got his butt deonte. I'm not taking a picture with
Speaker 1: you anymore. Man, You're not six eight pounds and I'm
Speaker 1: just playing that ref was terrible, was he? He took
Speaker 1: my fun out of that fight? Was the where's the
Speaker 1: ear punched? Legal? I hadn't gone back and watched it.
Speaker 1: I've heard both sides. Really, I hadn't gone back. The
Speaker 1: ear bad like that's part side of the head, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: some summer claiming it was a little it was behind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a very disappointing fight. I was expecting. Really,
Speaker 1: I've heard him. It was pretty excited, it was pretty good,
Speaker 1: but he just he just got got mold. He yeah,
Speaker 1: he just got dirty box to death like he exactly
Speaker 1: he had, he got out box. He got the perfect
Speaker 1: he had the perfect game plan against him and just
Speaker 1: executed it. Forgot hitting the mouth, you got hitting the mouth,
Speaker 1: you got punch in the ear. You know it's bad.
Speaker 1: You know what's bad when they show you know, a
Speaker 1: little steel frames and he getting hit in the face
Speaker 1: and like the glove is a part of his face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got beat up? Got it? Did? He watched the fight,
Speaker 1: but I saw that one steel frame, Like where did
Speaker 1: the glove it faced suffer? And then and then the
Speaker 1: man licked it, licked the blood off his neck. I
Speaker 1: was like, he's done. But he said that in the
Speaker 1: pre in the in the leading up to the fight,
Speaker 1: he was saying that, you know, I want to taste
Speaker 1: his blood. Ah, that's what that was about. That was
Speaker 1: about because at one point time Deana Deontay Walter said
Speaker 1: when he knocked down the last fight, and he got
Speaker 1: up and he was like, you know, for me to
Speaker 1: stay down, you're gonna have to nail me to the
Speaker 1: canvas and said, so Deonta said, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: I brought my six inch nails and my uh he said,
Speaker 1: I brought my my hammer from Tuscaloose or something like that,
Speaker 1: my Alabama my Alabama hammer. To the next thing, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm you're gonna be down. And he was just saying, like,
Speaker 1: I want to taste I want to taste his blood.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna knock him. I want to taste his blood.
Speaker 1: So when he had that, that's why you saw the
Speaker 1: pregame pre fight too. I like it too much. I
Speaker 1: like it. I don't know, I've seen it. Why the fight,
Speaker 1: but I hadn't see the other guy fight. But every
Speaker 1: interview that I've heard, they said this lout was special.
Speaker 1: You know, they have Muhammad lead daughter with steven A
Speaker 1: and the and the and the other fight doctors good
Speaker 1: who go be with Stephen That he's real good. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he's good. And they like and they even though they
Speaker 1: went with the other cat, they were talking about how
Speaker 1: good this dude is moving and boxing. He They said,
Speaker 1: that's the anecdote. Then when I saw the glove, the neck,
Speaker 1: the steel glove, like he it all came from all
Speaker 1: right back to the CBA's how I want to know
Speaker 1: how that works. So the owners vote for it, the
Speaker 1: owners approve it, and then they give it to what
Speaker 1: the players, to the players to the players board which
Speaker 1: every players represent, every representative one or two. They have
Speaker 1: a board higher than that jets uh board, Yeah, where
Speaker 1: they look it over and then they give it and
Speaker 1: then they they sent it to their room. You have
Speaker 1: you have so you have like your NFLPA president. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Eric Winston, I believe it is in the president now.
Speaker 1: And then every team has a representative. So you have
Speaker 1: your vice president, your president that sits on the board
Speaker 1: with you know, Demorris Smith uh and the NFLPA. And
Speaker 1: so once they get the information from the owners, then
Speaker 1: Demorris Smith and Eric Winston and so on and so
Speaker 1: forth sit down and kind of go through it. And
Speaker 1: then the messages didn't relay down to each one of
Speaker 1: the refs on the thirty two teams, and then it's
Speaker 1: their jobs or the refs to the reps to tell
Speaker 1: the team, to tell the teams and so you we
Speaker 1: I was a part of the Cowboys the last time
Speaker 1: we had a lockout UM twenty ten. But let me
Speaker 1: say this rec quick, like why they're negotiating. It's the
Speaker 1: it's the president vice president and like four or five
Speaker 1: guys that they have chosen from certain teams to be
Speaker 1: into that. So four or five plays yeah with that, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead on, you know, and then your your player rep.
Speaker 1: They kind of they'll call up, you know, a meeting
Speaker 1: in the in the locker room. You go on there
Speaker 1: and they'll give the information. So once they get it back,
Speaker 1: so the owners voted, they passed it, they gave it
Speaker 1: to the players. Yeah, NFLPA did they look over it
Speaker 1: coming there, and they give us like a tally sheet
Speaker 1: like are you for it or against it? Check one
Speaker 1: we hand them in. So it depends on how good
Speaker 1: your rep is, how you So some reps or sit
Speaker 1: out there like man, bro this y'all. Now, y'all, y'all
Speaker 1: guys that don't make five million a year, y'all may
Speaker 1: want to look at this part right here. Yeah, is
Speaker 1: that because some of the salaries are so such a gap?
Speaker 1: Is that make it tough in those meetings? That is
Speaker 1: that's the that's the part that the owners have in
Speaker 1: their favor is trying to get fifty three guys to
Speaker 1: agree on the same thing. Because when we were a
Speaker 1: part of the lockout, like Tony Round was like Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's lock out. And we're like, I'm like, yeah, Tony, Yeah,
Speaker 1: lockout a hundre minion OUs, you know what I'm saying, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: lockout because you're good for six months without you know,
Speaker 1: you're good for six for sixty years. Yeah. Me. On
Speaker 1: the other hand, back in the cell phone store, I'm
Speaker 1: looking like who hired? You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at I'm looking at indeed dot com because I'm
Speaker 1: saying I got a little bit of money saved up.
Speaker 1: But and that's where the difficult comes because ten percent
Speaker 1: of your team takes up most of the money. The
Speaker 1: rest of your team are made up of guys who
Speaker 1: make five hundred thousand dollars a year. And I know
Speaker 1: that sounds like a lot, but when you again, when
Speaker 1: you adapt these lifestyles and you live in a certain
Speaker 1: way and you look for those checks to come every month,
Speaker 1: guys like Zach, Zack, Dak and Zeke and those guys,
Speaker 1: they're like, lockout. Cool, Yeah, I'm fine. J J. Wad
Speaker 1: tweeted that's a hard no, But I mean he's up
Speaker 1: in that up. You you make two three, four five
Speaker 1: million autograph signing, you know your jersey sales. When you
Speaker 1: when you get your little check at the end of
Speaker 1: the year from jersey sales you take care of that's
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty thousand dollars just from yeah, I'm selling
Speaker 1: a jersey to you out the year. You you know
Speaker 1: you can go and you J. J. Watkin set, well,
Speaker 1: that's a hard no, and then go hold Saturday Night
Speaker 1: Live and make money from you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and make money in different avenues. Beam and I were
Speaker 1: talking about that last week when it came back, and
Speaker 1: it was it's like the extra playoff game. You get paid,
Speaker 1: but it's capped at two hundred and fifty thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: And if you make a million dollars a game, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be like, why would I discount my services for
Speaker 1: a game? But if you that guy that makes fifty
Speaker 1: thousand a game, you're like, hell, yeah, I want an
Speaker 1: extra check. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying because in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, it's the same thing. In the playoffs, all
Speaker 1: those stars we talk about, they take a pay cut
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and the slotted what you make every
Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, you ain't your your check stop
Speaker 1: at the end of the week seven. But if you
Speaker 1: make less than that maximum, you're right, give me that
Speaker 1: extra check. That's the guy's like, I'm putting my body
Speaker 1: on the line for less money. This doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: So that is where you gotta choose the right rep
Speaker 1: for the forty five other guys. You gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: choose the right rep for the forty three to forty
Speaker 1: five other guys. That's gonna sit on, fellas before we
Speaker 1: say yeah, never understand this. This this the benefits doing
Speaker 1: your career after your career. This is how you go up.
Speaker 1: That's gonna sit on a lot of times. Oh, we
Speaker 1: don't want to hear you know, we want to we
Speaker 1: want the money. And then all of a sudden, mikel
Speaker 1: Irvan tried to tell us when we was locked out
Speaker 1: that we were taking a bad deal. And over the
Speaker 1: years he's like, wow, we took a bad deal. But
Speaker 1: Mike Irvan tried to sit out and tell everybody end up, fellas,
Speaker 1: please don't sign this, don't go for it. But we
Speaker 1: were so hot for the money we signed. And if
Speaker 1: you don't have a guy, that's that's I guess business savvy,
Speaker 1: Like if you would look back whenever they raised the
Speaker 1: veteran minimum. If you're a veteran, you're like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the deal. Long term though, it wound up hurting some
Speaker 1: of those guys because it's like, Okay, you're a little
Speaker 1: bit better than this guy, but the veteran minimum is this.
Speaker 1: I can get this guy a third of that. But
Speaker 1: if you're just saying, yeah, they want to raise the
Speaker 1: veteran minimum to this, and you're not thinking big picture,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, I'm all in for that. But if
Speaker 1: you don't have somebody to explain that to you, here,
Speaker 1: this could be the long term effect of this. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of where you get into this three years
Speaker 1: but that was big. That was big in this league.
Speaker 1: Oh he's making too much. Oh yeah, And so when
Speaker 1: they came back with the PA can pay up to
Speaker 1: so much on a deal now the players associations to
Speaker 1: help those veterans that oh man, but I'm telling that money,
Speaker 1: that money. Money does make a difference. That Byron Jones
Speaker 1: is a rep I mean because he's a free agent
Speaker 1: and may not even be here so you know in
Speaker 1: another month or two. No, I think he's still I
Speaker 1: think he's fine in the sense of he's going to
Speaker 1: relate the information. Yeah, so, I mean, and if he's
Speaker 1: not here in the next week, you got an assistant.
Speaker 1: He got to have somebody that will be able to
Speaker 1: step in and step in that spot. When I was here,
Speaker 1: was it was it was Brady James. Yeah, when I
Speaker 1: was here, but it was it was tough because I'm like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm for the squad, but how much back
Speaker 1: and forth is there when they bring in and they say,
Speaker 1: here's the deal, or guys in there like what do
Speaker 1: you think about this? What's what's he what's he voting?
Speaker 1: What's he doing? I'm gonna be honest with you, man.
Speaker 1: He would just come in and say, yeah, ny like
Speaker 1: he said, it ain't no already some cats coming in like, oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta come here and do this and yeah and
Speaker 1: don't care. Yeah, and don't care. Some guy don't even
Speaker 1: show up to the meeting. Yeah, so you have you
Speaker 1: you Honestly, out of the out of fifty seven guys,
Speaker 1: out of the forty seven, really that that really matters
Speaker 1: because the other guys they set But out of those
Speaker 1: guys that really come in, I would say half of
Speaker 1: those guys are really interested in, you know, learning about
Speaker 1: your benefits paying in to your uh, to your four
Speaker 1: and one kid like, because guys are coming in listening,
Speaker 1: they're be like, listen, the the NFL is going to
Speaker 1: give you free money up to this, up to thirty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. And so most guys like I ain't giving
Speaker 1: up thirty thousand dollars. And it's like, listen, that's actually
Speaker 1: sixty thousand that's gonna go in your pot single year,
Speaker 1: so that when you're done on the back end, guys
Speaker 1: ain't thinking about the back end. A guy who's twenty
Speaker 1: two years old, twenty three years old, twenty four years
Speaker 1: old money now he's thinking about sixty. No, and that's
Speaker 1: about sixty believe or not. That's why the NFL put
Speaker 1: in in the player, so it puts something and play
Speaker 1: still for him. So when they get out, Oh man,
Speaker 1: I played five years in NFL enlightening, Oh no, we
Speaker 1: still yeah, like k yeah, you think the players will
Speaker 1: get too hung up on they're talking about doing a
Speaker 1: way with the marijuana. No, I told you that they will.
Speaker 1: I told you that months ago. Yeah, I've been saying
Speaker 1: it for years. They're gonna hold that marijuana card and
Speaker 1: this year they don't get whatever they want because of
Speaker 1: that marijuana. And you know what I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: people ain't about five or six players that smoke weed.
Speaker 1: Come on, America players where in a position group That
Speaker 1: has always made me laugh when I when over half
Speaker 1: of my friends smoke weed and they don't think one
Speaker 1: or two players on East team smoke we I say,
Speaker 1: I used. Come on, now, a locker room is a
Speaker 1: microcosm of the universe. Thank you. Like whatever happens in society,
Speaker 1: you replicate that in that locker room. Thank you. The
Speaker 1: athletes doesn't make them different. They're still people. When I
Speaker 1: find out some of my teammates when I was playing,
Speaker 1: like oh really? And then you put on top of that,
Speaker 1: like some of these ailments that football causes, the only
Speaker 1: way you can get relief is through something like that.
Speaker 1: Then that even probably pushes it even higher than with
Speaker 1: people to stop with the foolishness. Hi, you know half
Speaker 1: the half the kids in America smoke weed, and you're
Speaker 1: holding these football players to something. Your kids, Hey mom,
Speaker 1: can we roll one? You know? Yeah? Go ahead of
Speaker 1: all doing in the back room. Come on, and for
Speaker 1: all you adults that that are oblivious to people smoking,
Speaker 1: next time you see some kid vaping in a restaurant
Speaker 1: or a bar, or on a patio. About eighty five
Speaker 1: percent of that is weed. Thank you. It's not just vapor. Brother.
Speaker 1: You know what's so funny is you shouldn't do that
Speaker 1: because the vapor, if you will blow up. So that
Speaker 1: is very unsafe. So I'm telling y'all stop with the
Speaker 1: vaping that you know and do it conventionally. If you go,
Speaker 1: I'll see if you got to do it, I'm seeing
Speaker 1: if you gotta do safety first. I mean it's wrong,
Speaker 1: but safety first. This show is all about safety. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why we're gonna get off the air while we're
Speaker 1: on this topic. Kurt, good seeing you, man, Jesse, good
Speaker 1: seeing you, Nate, thanks for bringing it. Beant, thank you
Speaker 1: so much being you still back there? What's up being Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm here, I mean all right, thirty second
Speaker 1: Memer all right, William, thanks for helping. If you got today, Kate, Kate,
Speaker 1: where you at the should stay in a way. Kyle,
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