WEBVTT - Hangin' with the Boys: Pulling No Punches 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.840 The Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:16.040 Club flow way out of the backfield's flooding down the sidelines. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:20.400 He is hanging with the boys, presented by Wing Stuff 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:25.120 where Flavor gets its wings. Now your hosts Nate Newton, 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:32.360 Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holley, and Shannon Gross. Hey, hey, hey, 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:36.479 it's Monday. It ain't hard to get up from Monday. 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:47.760 When you get down like we do, let's go ready, wow, Monday, 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:51.040 when you get down down here them buy you. Oh, 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.880 we got a special guest producer today. Who we got? 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.240 Who we got? Rocking the mic and the board in 0:00:56.280 --> 0:01:04.840 the back. Awesome, Yep, go shower, Beamer's up. That's it. 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.360 That's all you. That's all you're gonna get beam Ball. No, 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.920 you ain't get my picture up there, bro, Sorry, now, 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.600 ain't gonna happen. Okay, how are y'all? How are you? Nate? 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.120 Great man? You started it off right? You started to 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.120 show off right. How's that like? Getting no Kurt in 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:23.880 his hair off the air, with hair getting thick? We 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:28.280 were just admiring Kurt's locks. Yes, you grow back darker too, No, 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.720 I don't think so. No, how you doing Jess. I'm 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.120 I'm so so, I'm a little I'm a little sad today. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:38.840 Why why it's Kobe by day? Yeah, I text you 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.959 guys when what we're gonna do a show? You know? 0:01:41.200 --> 0:01:43.160 Was half I was gonna be crying and moaning yeah 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.240 about this morning? Did you really? Yeah? Man? I was. 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.960 Is that your guy growing up? Yeah? So he was 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.440 one of your one of your hero reporations really yeah, yeah, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.320 yeah I was. It's like eighth and eighth grade, and 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.040 I begged a big bag bag bag, one of the 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.080 guys who helped raise me. Begged him, man, take me 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.120 to see this guy Ahillily that everybody keep talking about 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:06.480 because Jersey and Philli is about an hour and fifteen 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.200 minutes away. I'm like, please take me to see I mean, 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.679 everybody take me, please, please take me to go see 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:14.560 him play. And he took me and I was just like, 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.000 that's my guy, you know, And then he went on, 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.040 Yeah I was in eighth grade. Because I got into 0:02:21.080 --> 0:02:23.760 high school. He went on to the NBA and it 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.000 was Kobe everything. I wore twenty four because in high 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.200 school you couldn't wear eight. You can't wear eight in 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:35.840 high school. Numbers like that yeah, so I wore twenty 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.680 four two times four was eight. So I wore twenty 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:41.639 four and eventually he changed it twenty four. I try 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.080 to like play like him, and yeah, so he was 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.600 He was my guy for really, really, really really, I 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:50.440 mean long time, long, long, long, long time. And so 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:53.080 I get a chance to meet him. Yeah. No, I 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.959 was always afraid because I never wanted my I never 0:02:57.000 --> 0:02:59.960 wanted my Yeah, I never wanted that to be crushed 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:03.600 because I've been around some people who are stars and 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:08.760 are complete yep, that's what they say, never meet and 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:12.600 I'm like, man like, and that happened to me. Quick 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.560 side story. One of my favorite R and B groups, 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:19.040 favorite R and B groups is Joe to Ce favorite 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:26.040 Jody Love Joe to CETI I I still do. Was 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.960 in I was headed to Atlanta for a Memorial Day 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.400 weekend about three or four years ago. Flights got delayed 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.840 like three or four times. So anytime you're in like 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.440 the holding area, you just started meeting people. And so 0:03:38.480 --> 0:03:40.960 I met this group of young ladies who are actually 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:42.640 going there as well, and so we just started kicking 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.600 it and start I'm like, hey, I watched their back 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:46.040 when they went to the bathroom. They watched mine when 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.960 I went to the bathroom. We were there a full 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:52.680 day Casey and Joejoe was also in the same terminal 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:57.440 as us. I'm like, oh, that's gay. But they thought 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.600 that I was with the young ladies, which I wasn't, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:02.720 and they was trying to, you know, get them to 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.360 come of their parties and all that kind of stuff. 0:04:04.360 --> 0:04:07.640 So they're like talking like, you don't want to be 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.280 with that suck over. They talking about me, they calling 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:13.040 me a sucker, like that you don't want to don't 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:14.320 want to hang out with him for the weekend. He 0:04:14.320 --> 0:04:17.320 ain't got no money. We you know we Casey. I 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:20.320 was so hurt that, like they just kicked my back in. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.840 I'm like, y'all, I don't understand. I seen y'all show 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.440 was like at the top of my lungs. So I 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.000 was hurt that my favorite group, Casey, you know, Casey 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.440 and Joe Joe's he was kicking my back into the airport. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.480 There was dirty back into some girls and I didn't 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.960 even want so I never wanted to. I always admired 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.680 him from afar Um, was in place with him, but 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.120 never did it because I was like, man if he 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.080 dissed me. If I go and speaking, he'd be like, 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.279 get the hell out of here. I might have to 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.960 fight him. Crush, just ruining it. I'll be crushed, not me. 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:56.560 But I met mine and League Street right. Yeah, so 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.400 I'm good, was he to man he was putting on 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:04.120 his shows. He waved. He waved better than um that 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:07.599 than I ever be with people. You know, with people 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:09.600 because I'm not you just can't walk up to me. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.200 I don't know, you just can't walk up to me. 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.960 But everybody he had the apport. I was with the 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:19.440 Red Skins at the time, you know, and and uh, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:21.599 I was in a hotel. Man. He was just putting 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.719 on the show for like an hour, you know. He 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.599 had slight of hand tricks and stuff like just an hour. 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:28.480 And I finally got a chance to say, I just 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:31.000 want to shake your hand and say hello. Man, he was. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.440 It was awesome to say. I don't I don't ask 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:38.320 for much from my stars. I just I always believe 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:39.960 that if you if you walk up to me and 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:41.440 say hello, how you know what miss noon? Now? How 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.040 you doing? Nay, I'm saying hello, how are you doing? 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.479 I have a great day? That's all I want I 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.479 don't need no pictures. No, that's all I want. You 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:54.080 ever met anybody human, met anybody that that you did? 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.600 You were like, Okay, that was a better experience than 0:05:56.640 --> 0:06:00.719 I ever could have thought. Michael Jordan, Yes, sir, really jail. Yeah, 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.120 I've heard. I've heard he could be kind of standoffice 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.880 and to his to his teammates, he can ye general public, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:11.640 he's been different. Michael Jordan. Where do you meet him? At? 0:06:12.160 --> 0:06:16.160 You and he came in, Uh, we played horse like 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.480 I got a chance to see Michael Jordan, one of 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.800 the grizzies I've ever seen. So we're in the weight 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.040 room before practice and he comes in there and like 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.680 you've heard of Michael Jordan. You're like, yes, Michael Jordan. 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:27.880 But to have the man standing in the same room 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.640 when she was a different like, he looks like I 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.440 guess to me at that moment, he looked like some 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:37.839 sort of god, right, larger than yeah, and the largest 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:41.560 hand you'll ever shake, like the that's how man, the 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.640 largest hand you'll ever shake. And he came to practice 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:46.680 and he kicked it with us and we played horse 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:50.880 and it was after practice. We're all just shooting around 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.800 at the practice and he called one of the ball 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.320 boys over. Now, this was when Dean Smith was still alive. 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.200 So Dean Smith had a office in the Dean Doome, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.680 no matter what, he had an office there. It was 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:03.680 off in the cut. So he comes out, You got 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:05.520 Roy Williams out there, you got Dean Smith out there, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.040 and you got Michael Jordan's shooting around. And Mike is 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:12.480 just shooting like you know, elbow jump shots, boom, jogging clothes, 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:16.040 sweater jeans, boom. HiT's about three or four in a row. 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:21.800 So he yells out to Coach Smith. He goes, Coach, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.400 I bet you one hundred, I can hit ten in 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:28.360 a row. Coach said, I bet you another hundred. You 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.720 can't hit ten in a row left handed. And when 0:07:31.760 --> 0:07:34.520 I say, Michael Jordan in the drop of a don 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:37.840 looked at Coach Smith, looked at the ball boy said 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:43.679 and rattled off sixth straight left handed. And he missed 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.640 the tenth water but he rattled off like and you 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.160 would have thought he was naturally left hand. He hit it, bang, 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.720 what's the other side? Bang, sixth straight like it was 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.800 fluid like fluid and just smooth left hand fifteen sixteen 0:07:56.840 --> 0:08:03.080 foot jump shots and I'm sitting there like, oh my god, 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.600 I'm watching Michael Jordan's do this like it was just 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.240 a greatest thing ever. It was a greatest thing ever. 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.080 And then I but then I met Tiger Woods and 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:16.560 he wasn't able. Tyger wasn't able. Yeah, wasn't a right 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.480 Valley ranche. Really. I'm gonna tell you something, man, Mike, Mike, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.360 I'm witchie, Mike, Mike, legit, Man, if you catch him 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:28.000 in the right setting. It's all about settings, man, that 0:08:28.200 --> 0:08:30.800 It's all about settings. Now, some people ain't gonna never 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:34.280 treat you right, like Tiger. I ain't shocked. I ain't 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.280 shocked by Tiger Woods. Some people you are to look 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:41.079 on their TV and say that that's him, you know 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:45.079 what I'm saying. Yeah, but yeah, man, but hey man, 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.160 hang on, Kurt, Kurt, you interviewed, you interviewed a lot 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.160 of people, breastball guys, a lot of athletes over the 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.520 baseball guy. Anybody that disappointed you, And is there anybody 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:57.800 that like you were like, you know what, that's a 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:01.200 good dude. Most of them are good dudes. I've been 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.680 pretty lucky. I mean, they've been handful. Who is the worst. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:11.760 I'm trying to think who I mean, nobody's bad. They're 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:13.640 not bad, but they just don't give you a good answer. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:18.040 It's just like you're pulling teeth. It's just one word answer. Well, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:24.079 who is yours best? Or both? Both? Probably the best? 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.960 Mantel Jordan hands down one of the nicest human beings 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.920 I have ever met. Like family man, you know he 0:09:31.679 --> 0:09:38.120 mentors couples. Uh, just a just a good dude. Yes, worst, 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.760 I'm not real sure, like a lot of and I 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:43.480 don't know if it's because of this job, because you 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.480 have something common. You know that I get to meet 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.000 a lot of people, and that you have that you know, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.360 that football cowboy fan mentality, so you you kind of 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.680 feed off each other. So nobody's really a jerk. I 0:09:55.720 --> 0:09:58.040 don't really know if I'm sure there is one. Let 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:00.640 me think about it. But Montel's fired though, Bro. But 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.280 the best time man star that I meant is Mama Girls. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:08.880 That's the best. I agree, Yeah, that's the best star. 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.319 Yall have no idea. Say one of your old former 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:17.120 teammates is a tough dude to be around, Dudu. M Oh, yeah, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:19.840 you got it. It's all about the setting with him. 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:22.959 It's because Emma is you're teld me the dude is 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:28.480 digested every motive. Mo. He'll look at Kurt, Okay, do 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.160 you really want to interview? Was just about some foolishness 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:35.160 I mean, and he'll challenge you. When he was on 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.080 that show, that Legend show us last year, you would 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.520 say something, he'd be like why, Yeah, what for? Why 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.200 would I do that? Yeah? I just asked a question. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:48.520 He wasn't in my time in the Cowboys locker room. 0:10:48.559 --> 0:10:51.679 He wasn't the most well received. Oh no, he by 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:55.040 players at that time and didn't care and don't care. 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.560 You're already saying about that. Yeah, Dak take twenty eight. 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.480 Take twenty eight. You should have been calling him like 0:11:02.880 --> 0:11:05.640 stop you. They ask me next next day, and I 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.760 asked that that is in it, and uh, that is 0:11:08.800 --> 0:11:13.840 what we telling you. We we we was moved. We 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.360 should played the hoops the hoop I told yourself who 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.040 was the hoopsters? And it's eight or nine of us 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.640 and were trying to get all our luggage moved from 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.120 one flight to the next. We gotta make this flight 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.959 in Florida, and these bell hops or whatever you call them, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:33.600 baggage man like moving on slow and I'm like, fellas, 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.640 what's up, y'all don't want to tip? Well, uh, your 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.720 partner just came through him. We moved like eighty backs 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.880 from him, and this time he didn't do nothing for us. 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.080 And I'm kind of knowing who this about? What partner 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.520 are you talking about? And the smell and he told 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.560 we better be lacking that. He even talked to us 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.000 as a cowboy, like bro, he gonna, hey, gonna fifty 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:56.760 bulls getting the boom. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:02.280 dispute that you played for the cowboys. Who yeah, yeah, man, yeah, 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:03.960 I want no good at it. But I had fun. 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:08.080 I tell people like this here, we had a mixed 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:12.599 bag of guys and like, Emmy, it ain't nothing he 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.559 won't do for me and nothing I want to do 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:19.200 for him. But so different, I mean so different, you know, Emmy, Emmy, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:21.360 I'm telling you you can walk with him. And hey, man, 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.960 I'm mister Jarry Jones cousin. 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But now it's a destination and everything. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:10.120 So the combine this week. Do teams get anything out 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:12.760 of the combine other than is the most important thing 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.600 they get to be able to sit down and talk 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:17.200 to these guys and just the eye test. Is there 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:20.160 anything else? Do they make a big deal out of 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.080 this for nothing just for TV and to keep football relevant? 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.920 Or is there some good stuff that league in itself 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.600 and the commissioner and his people make it big because 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:34.479 it's always about setting for them, it's always about sponsorship. 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:37.840 Now it's primetime. A lot of these solid the quarterbacks 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.720 I think Friday, Thursday and Friday be on primetime TV. 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:49.120 But for coaches, last year it is combined. The receiver 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:57.600 for for the Seattle Seahawks, DK Metcalf. He went from 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:02.440 a third fourth round pick to the man just overnight. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.720 Cause any combines we've seen it happen. Man, our guy here, 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:09.960 our corner who we decided whether went from just a 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:14.560 good guy to a warrior workout guy barn Jones. Yeah. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.360 Now a lot of these guys fail, but a few 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:21.000 do make it. So this combine, they kind of know 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:22.680 who they're going to look at. They kind of know 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.119 what their needs are, but they just want to a 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:28.080 lot of times see these guys talk to them and 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:31.280 just get their hands on them. Man that their medical 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.919 staff run through them. It's big, man, it's big. I mean. 0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:38.240 So there's value too, it's a lot of Yeah, it's 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:42.320 a lot of value. My personal opinion, there's more value 0:17:42.680 --> 0:17:45.080 off the field than it. Actually it's on the field 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.639 first and foremost the medicals. Right, I'm getting ready to 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.840 you invest the guys who are going to the combine 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:52.680 or guys who are most likely going to be your 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:55.680 high picks right your first, second, possibly third round. So 0:17:55.880 --> 0:17:58.199 teams are saying, I'm getting ready to invest a lot 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:03.120 of time, energy, money, franchises putting on some of these 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.439 players back. So let me make sure my medicals are 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.000 in place. And then the second part is because we've 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:11.760 come so far in technology now with everything with I 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:14.560 mean literally whether it's a computer or whether it's your 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.600 cell phone, I can get any tape, any any video, anything, 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:24.399 any workout that I want right here, right. But what 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.639 I want to be able to sit down, you know, 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:28.760 and and and look you in the white of your 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:32.200 eyes and ask you questions and see and get a 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.200 feel because sometimes having a conversation. We've all done it. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:36.879 You know, you can text some Miley, you can have 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:38.679 comms on the phone and it may not go over 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.119 as well as to where I'm sitting right across from 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:42.399 me and you're looking in my eyes. I'm looking at 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.080 your eyes, and I get a feel. It's you know, 0:18:44.240 --> 0:18:47.040 sometimes people and everybody has their quarks about they have 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:48.960 their list of he has to be this or that 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.520 or this or that. Sometimes it comes down to how 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:53.560 did I feel when I was in the room with 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.560 Nate Newton, How did I feel when I was in 0:18:55.640 --> 0:18:58.640 the room sitting with Kurt Daniels, And that could take 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:03.040 it from I didn't feel it. You know, there may 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:07.280 be some things there, But when I sat down with Nate, Yeah, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.840 but when I sit down with Shannon, yeah, yeah, the 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:16.280 other offensive linement comparable and and and in attributes, but 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.440 the feeling was different when I sat down with you, 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.760 and it was to to Nate. So I think that's 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.440 the biggest value that they're doing it. The stuff on 0:19:24.520 --> 0:19:27.600 the field that's more just for show and to sell 0:19:27.640 --> 0:19:30.240 the product. Like Nate was saying, it's always about keeping 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:33.760 our product relevant, selling our product. And now we're able 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:36.360 to brand these guys. When you have a DK metcalf 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.840 colling the shirt off and you see all that, people 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:40.840 want to come see you. Well, they'd like a specimen. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.120 What does he look like? So they want to sell 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:45.520 their product. But the most important things to me is 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:46.919 when you get a chance to sit down and talk 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.439 to the guys and and get the medicals. Kirk, how 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:51.200 many guys do they get to talk to you during 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.159 this because there's a little more regimented. Now you can 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.280 bring thirty in here, right, you can bring thirty thirty 0:19:57.320 --> 0:19:59.280 for your thirty in house business. So I don't know 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:01.159 how many of you can do it. Beam. You shouldn't 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.040 know that you'll get eighteen minutes. Yeah, it used to 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:10.120 be where you just grab guys a little more. Yeah, 0:20:10.320 --> 0:20:12.440 they get to interview every single guy. But it's like 0:20:12.680 --> 0:20:15.280 they it's like uh, like you said, it's like regiment. 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.480 It's like fifteen minutes. They blow a horn. Everybody rotate, Yeah, 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.119 like every day. Yeah, it's like exactly, yeah, and you 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:25.080 try to get as many questions in that particular time 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:26.879 and then they blow the whistle and then you go 0:20:26.960 --> 0:20:29.960 the next next group. So Beam, do they do they 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.880 take the information they get at the combine and then 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.200 decide who they want to bring in for their thirty visits. 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:39.200 Is that how it works? Uh? Yeah, But I think 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.000 sometimes it's like, uh that they bring guys back here 0:20:43.119 --> 0:20:45.560 that they didn't get to talk to, like the ownership 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.920 didn't talk to or does that make sense? I don't 0:20:48.920 --> 0:20:51.560 think Jerry's there every single interview, right, So you want 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:53.440 to bring him in, Hey, check this guy out. We'll 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:55.240 show him the facility of that kind of stuff. Did 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.920 you get to feel him out at the combat? A 0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:01.200 little bit more? More? Here you can get your guys 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:04.000 on them, the position coaches and that kind of stuff. Okay, 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.399 you're watching any of the combine, Kirk? You know if 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.400 I'm not gonna stop down whatever I'm doing and watch, 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:12.840 if I'm hanging out and doesn't have anything going on 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:21.040 but all things defense? Oh yeah, I'm not here We 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:24.119 go again? Here we go? How many picks all of them? 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:29.159 If we have seven picks, I would like our first 0:21:29.280 --> 0:21:35.440 four to be all defense. And if a guy is say, 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:40.159 can follow us, and he's at fourteen or fifteen, and 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:43.240 we don't have to give up a filth and of 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.720 six and maybe a fourth and to move up these 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:53.320 two got I won't playmaker's galore on defense. We've spent 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.040 all the money on our offense, you know, and I 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.159 hate keep hearing people saying, well, but if we can 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:05.440 get a first one ride receiver, No, fellas, No, we 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:08.200 gave up a first round pick to get a Marii Cooper. 0:22:08.240 --> 0:22:10.360 Now we're gonna spend another first round pick to get 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:13.760 another guy. Now we got Gallup, We got this guy 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.719 sitting on the bench. We got Amari Cooper, We got 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:19.239 the backup guys that that flash. Last year, we had 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.000