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Speaker 1: Programming is an art Like it's an art form go

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Speaker 1: and it's something that like I get frustrated with a lot,

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Speaker 1: but like I deeply appreciate after being in the profession

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Speaker 1: for ten years. It's like I'll still you know, I'll

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Speaker 1: still spend four hours, like I spent four hours doing

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Speaker 1: Bryce Bryce Harper's program, Like last weekend when I was

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Speaker 1: in Austin.

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Speaker 2: And I was like this, I'm like, why is this takesafe?

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Speaker 2: Like because your care you can't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want this to be perfect for every athlete

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Speaker 1: that you you know that you come.

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Speaker 2: Across out here.

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Speaker 3: The stakes are real. Effective preparation starts with fitness, but

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Speaker 3: it requires so much more. This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience,

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Speaker 3: and skills needed to be ready when it matters the most.

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Speaker 3: Join me Rich Browning as we apply the decades of

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Speaker 3: wisdom I've gained through training and competition to hunting in

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Speaker 3: the back country. This is in Pursuit brought to you

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Speaker 3: by Mountain Thumps in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. Guest Shane Wallen,

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Speaker 3: former strength coach for the Detroit Tigers as of very

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Speaker 3: recent Chicago Cubs before that, San Francisco forty nine Ers

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Speaker 3: before that, played.

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Speaker 1: At Oregon Football even Browns before that, okay, and then

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Speaker 1: played FOOTBA at Oregon State.

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Speaker 3: Oregon State, got it. I missed one in there. Then

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Speaker 3: we got Angelo, what are your accolodes?

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Speaker 4: I just work here.

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Speaker 3: Angela programs here so I don't get fired. Yeah, Angelo

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Speaker 3: programs all Mayhem hunt for us.

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Speaker 3: He's literally been working out with me since he was thirteen. Yep,

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Speaker 3: and he's twenty six now twenty six, so we worked

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Speaker 3: out together. It was like old times. Yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I was just telling them that, like that workout we

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Speaker 5: did was just so inappropriate for me.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, just we don't have to talk about it.

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Speaker 5: But it is just funny that I could probably do

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Speaker 5: double the amount of bar moss ups. I can of

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Speaker 5: strict hands and push ups in one unbroken sat and

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Speaker 5: they can do fifty.

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Speaker 4: I could probably do thirty handstand push ups. It says.

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Speaker 5: I was like, I was thinking about that winter finishing.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, this isn't the right reps cue, this is wrong.

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Speaker 3: We did a little workout in the back the last

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Speaker 3: you and Watkins? It was good Angela sent me one

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Speaker 3: this morning that was, uh, every four minutes, there was

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Speaker 4: Five just for some reps.

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Speaker 3: And then the sandbag clean We did ten sandbag cleans

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Speaker 4: That's that's the whole workout.

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Speaker 3: Every four minutes you did thirty fifteen to ten.

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Speaker 4: And it was just sandbag cleans. Is the artist part.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The last couple reps of bench just fatigued you

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Speaker 5: Oh packed tight. They pack them tight. You can't really

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Speaker 3: Mine up here have enough reps that they're still probably

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Speaker 4: It was only like one forty three and.

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Speaker 3: No? So, yeah, we were just talking off camera, Shane.

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Speaker 3: Shane's like, you guys are gonna talk to me? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so sorry, you're invited if you want. Actually, if you're

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Speaker 4: He's gonna scour his phone looking for I'm busy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I gotta go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, March twentieth, but I do six pm to six pm.

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Speaker 3: Set of max reps. As soon as you lay down

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Speaker 5: Uh without any prompting. This was we've had. We're like

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Speaker 5: we're going six pm to six pm? Oh yeah, would

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Speaker 5: Because I have a solid reason why it. Scott has

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Speaker 1: I personally like i'd train in the morning, So I'd

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we both. We both like the six pm I

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Speaker 3: Scott hates it. We've done a couple of twenty four hours.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that came up too, because we were just

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Speaker 4: I was like, what's he saying?

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Speaker 5: What is what I'm excited about is to make you

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Speaker 3: With terms ya here we go.

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Speaker 4: He hates and I'm listen, I'm an idiot.

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Speaker 2: Like you, what was your degree? Exercise and sports science?

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Speaker 3: Okay, strength coach for several years, these guys like to

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Speaker 4: And he doesn't like those terms. He likes CrossFit terms.

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Speaker 4: Like like like sandbag clean or something similar.

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Speaker 1: Said Yeah, I honestly, I personally I would I would

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But that you want them to feel like they

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Speaker 2: No, like, no, it's it's it's an ego thing. I

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Speaker 2: I'm smart that these guys.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's where it's not I want them

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Speaker 5: them to look and think this guy knows what he's doing. Actually, actually, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that is a little bit of it, but it's not

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Speaker 5: for an ego thing. I want them to think, Okay, hey,

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Speaker 5: I trust this guy. He's kind of smart actually kind

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Speaker 5: of knows what he's talking about. I don't need I

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Speaker 5: all right, I trust It's only been.

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Speaker 3: That way in the last one probably year. Scott previous

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and now some guys you can't talk into doing

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Speaker 4: From athlete athlete, what was their body responds to?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 4: Is that what's like a general protocol that you kind

442
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Speaker 4: of give them?

443
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I mean for most of our starters, it

444
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, like do a little bit of zonne

445
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 1: two aerobic work fifteen to twenty minutes, maybe twenty five

446
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,880
Speaker 1: at most, keep your heart rate around one thirty five

447
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Speaker 1: to one forty five. Any sort of like, so what

448
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Speaker 1: we'll do is an institute like a mobility circuit after

449
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 1: that too, So we'll have like eight to ten exercises.

450
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Speaker 1: They'll do like two to ten two to ten rounds,

451
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Speaker 1: like yeah, like bands, body weight, TRX, bace, like full

452
00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520
Speaker 1: range of motion, get their heart rate up a little bit,

453
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Speaker 1: but like not too much. They'll get a nice little sweat,

454
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Speaker 1: you know. We use like various implements to to kind

455
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Speaker 1: of challenge different positions, re establish range of motion, joint integrity,

456
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Speaker 1: and tissue integrity, and then they can go to all

457
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Speaker 1: their stuff in the training room, whether it's massage, therapy

458
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960
Speaker 1: and any sort of like recovery modality, stem, you know,

459
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Speaker 1: anything like that. So that's the whole theme of the

460
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Speaker 1: day is like, hey, get your body back to like

461
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Speaker 1: baseline right as quickly as possible, knowing that like by

462
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Speaker 1: tomorrow you're probably not gonna be like, you know, back

463
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Speaker 1: to one hundred percent, but we're gonna be way closer

464
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Speaker 1: than we would have been had we just like crushed

465
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Speaker 1: ourselves coming into the you know, day one, If that

466
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Speaker 1: makes sense.

467
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Speaker 5: What did does nutrition look different on those days for

468
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Speaker 5: those guys or are there some people that are like

469
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Speaker 5: really strict or do you have like kind of guidelines

470
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Speaker 5: with that, like, hey, this is the day we're gonna do,

471
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Speaker 5: like because we do like refeed days, right, like they

472
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Speaker 5: have those two on those recovery days.

473
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Speaker 1: Hundred percent that starts like once they come out of

474
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Speaker 1: the game too, so to be like day zero, day one,

475
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Speaker 1: like obviously high protein, high carb right, high end time

476
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Speaker 1: flam so whether it's like turmeric, ginger, all those kind

477
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Speaker 1: of like supplements. Our dietitian with the Tigers, Mo she

478
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Speaker 1: was great, So she handled all that for us. She'd

479
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Speaker 1: have smoothies at their locker once they came out of

480
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Speaker 1: the game. She had little pack of supplements and then

481
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Speaker 1: anything they need like specifically meal wise postgame and even

482
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Speaker 1: going to that next day, you know, curated for them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah is that something they like talk to uh Mo, Yeah, they.

484
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Speaker 1: Would talk to Marine our dietitian. She she's a badass

485
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Speaker 1: by the way, twenty five years of firefighter.

486
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Speaker 4: And then like whoak's cool.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah she's she's awesome, but yeah, they would schedule all

488
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Speaker 1: that with her, Like and Mo got to the point

489
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Speaker 1: where like she's so good, she just knew like so

490
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Speaker 1: she just boom boom boom, right, like.

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Speaker 5: She's yeah, yeah, and then I guess let's just keep going.

492
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Speaker 5: So like, what does that day two look like? You said,

493
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Speaker 5: it's another high day where they come back to it.

494
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so that that day is usually their bullpen day,

495
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: So for us, that's another training stimulus. And again, like

496
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Speaker 1: for us too, like structuring the days is important too,

497
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Speaker 1: because you can't just like I don't know, I guess

498
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Speaker 1: you could, but like the way I look at it

499
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Speaker 1: is like you want to get your heavier stimulus out

500
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Speaker 1: of the way earlier because that's going to be more

501
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 1: like neurally draining and taxing, so giving yourself your body

502
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Speaker 1: more time to like get back to baseline by day five.

503
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Speaker 1: I stacked that like heavier force driven day right after

504
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Speaker 1: he comes out of the game.

505
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Speaker 2: And then that.

506
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Speaker 1: Second day, day two, which is what we're referring to,

507
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Speaker 1: is kind of like a power rate to force development

508
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Speaker 1: speed kind of day. So think, like, I don't know,

509
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Speaker 1: in terms of percentages, you're probably like ten, fifteen, maybe

510
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Speaker 1: twenty percent lighter than that heavy forest ove Okay, And

511
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Speaker 1: you know, again like it's not that we're not training

512
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Speaker 1: some things heavy like, but I think we have to

513
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Speaker 1: be really strategic about how we implement that.

514
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Speaker 2: Based on what Yeah, like what phase we're in.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to control volume, right, so you don't

516
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: want them super sore going into day three, day four,

517
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Speaker 1: So we limit the volume. We maximize intent with some

518
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: of those, like compound exercises because the volume's low. So

519
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Speaker 1: you've got like three by three or four by three

520
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Speaker 1: or you know, five by two whatever it is, like, yeah,

521
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Speaker 1: you got like eight to ten reps to give me

522
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: everything you got to you know, create this stimulus that

523
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Speaker 1: we're trying to achieve, Like, go get it.

524
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Speaker 5: You know, what are those compound lifts you guys usually

525
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Speaker 5: go go to. Like I'm sure it's different for everybody,

526
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Speaker 5: but like compound lifts you use that you like to

527
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Speaker 5: go to that you see a lot of benefit from

528
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Speaker 5: for those athletes.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah, good, good question, because as you alluded to, it's

530
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Speaker 1: like it's different for each guy. It's like like Terek

531
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Speaker 1: Schoogle is different than you know, Casey Mize or you

532
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: know one of our other starters, Jack Flaherty, or it's

533
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: all like again, it's all assessment based, it's all medical

534
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Speaker 1: history based. Like there's so many baseball players have low

535
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Speaker 1: back issues to the point of.

536
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Speaker 2: Where like you can't.

537
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Speaker 1: Put a bar on the back, you can't actial load them,

538
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: like you can't trap our deadlift them, like oh yeah,

539
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Speaker 1: there's yeah. Yeah, so you got to get real strategic.

540
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Speaker 1: So like I'm a big fan with like these. I

541
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Speaker 1: started to getting influenced by the archetype model. Bill Hartman

542
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Speaker 1: is kind of coined this model. It's like the wide

543
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Speaker 1: and narrow archetype. I think it really influences, you know,

544
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Speaker 1: skill skill based sports. So we look at like wides

545
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Speaker 1: and narrows like scooples of wide like big force producer

546
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Speaker 1: six four sixty pounds, right, and then you have other

547
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Speaker 1: guys that are more of your narrow archetypes through yeah,

548
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Speaker 1: like taller, er, narrower, right, Like those guys are meant

549
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Speaker 1: to have their center gravity up like their their their

550
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Speaker 1: chest is or there, their thor ax is meant to

551
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Speaker 1: stay up. Like they're not great hingers, right, yep, they

552
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Speaker 1: don't have Yeah, they don't have a ton of access

553
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Speaker 1: to hip internal rotation or shoulder internal rotation. They're more

554
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Speaker 1: external rotation based, right, So like hinging is a heavily

555
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: ir based actually, like any hinging is very much influenced

556
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Speaker 1: by internal rotation capacity. So if you don't have that,

557
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Speaker 1: then like innately, like could you get that person more

558
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,479
Speaker 1: ir sure, yeah, and we could do that, but that

559
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: could honestly make them worse.

560
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: It's their goal.

561
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so like a lot of those narrows, like

562
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: we keep their center of gravity in their chest up.

563
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: We box squat them, right, and we.

564
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: Do a lot of like you know, rear for elevated

565
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Speaker 1: reverse lunch split squats, everyone does like unilateral training and

566
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: so but but then our wides are our hingers, right,

567
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: those guys have a massive intro rotation window. They rely

568
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Speaker 1: on interron rotation. They're really restricted in extran rotation. So

569
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Speaker 1: scooble trap bar guy like and and again traditionally he

570
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: would be in season. We tend to rely on more

571
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Speaker 1: of a box a belt box squad because again he

572
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Speaker 1: has low back issues like has in the past, Like

573
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Speaker 1: just it flares up from time to time. And again

574
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Speaker 1: like there is several different ways that we can achieve

575
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Speaker 1: an adaptation and an outcome. It's not married to one exercise.

576
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Speaker 3: It's different for us because that's our sports.

577
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Speaker 2: It's the comp you have to do it.

578
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,679
Speaker 1: But for them, it's like these guys got to throw

579
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Speaker 1: a baseball a hundred miles an.

580
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Speaker 2: Hour, and is to help you know that?

581
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so it's like the difference it is. It

582
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: is like your guys a sport involves weightlifting. These guys

583
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: don't like. So sometimes there's a subtle reminder there. It's like, hey,

584
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: it's okay if you can't trap our deadlifter. It's okay

585
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: if you can't heavy.

586
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Speaker 4: We'll find that stimulus some of the way.

587
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: Many roads to run, yeah, many roads to run.

588
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Speaker 4: And then after the heavy day, you said, there's another

589
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: low day.

590
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that third day is more of again like

591
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: a neuromuscular region. They'll do some more soft tissue whatever

592
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Speaker 1: they need to do in the in the training room,

593
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: they'll do some tempo runs with us, or they'll do

594
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Speaker 1: something if they're you know, if it's an older guy's

595
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: got knee, hip back problems, then like we can get

596
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Speaker 1: them on the right.

597
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Speaker 2: Here how old thirty eight? A lot of miles, Yeah,

598
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Speaker 2: a lot of miles. How many did you run to

599
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Speaker 2: get here?

600
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 4: About three?

601
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Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I ran three miles

602
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: on purpose. I didn't do it on purpose. But yeah,

603
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: so it could be something like steady state or more

604
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: interval like on the on a wind bike and assault bike.

605
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: Just something that's like again like PNS really like we

606
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: we don't want to excite the nervous system or drive

607
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: that kind of stimulus on day three when we know

608
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 1: we're gonna kind of like get a little bit of

609
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: that on day four, and we want to preserve that

610
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: mostly obviously for day five, right, which is their start day.

611
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's cool. I do want to ask, Yeah, go ahead, I.

612
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 3: Mean, because we are geeking out at this point. All right,

613
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 3: So with your you know, I'm speaking in Tiger's terms,

614
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 3: your torkleson mckintry, those type of guys that play a

615
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 3: ton Riley, how when are you fitting in workouts with them?

616
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Speaker 3: And what are there you know, what are you trying

617
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Speaker 3: to do with that? Yeah?

618
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Speaker 1: No, it's to maintain at that point for them if

619
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Speaker 1: they're playing that much, right, Yeah, no, And and those

620
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: are like great question. Riley was a guy that like

621
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Speaker 1: religiously mostly for the like the first day of every series,

622
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Speaker 1: he'd come in and get a full training session. And now,

623
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: like everyone thinks, like and I think largely in baseball

624
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: before the last couple of years, like some of these

625
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: training sessions in season for guys, like from what I

626
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: had heard from like previous strength coaches like like forty

627
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: five minutes to an hour, and I'm like, holy crap, man,

628
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: like it's a long time. You got to you got

629
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: a game to prepare for. Like, no, we're gonna get

630
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 1: you in and out of here in like twenty minutes

631
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: quick like. And so we're really intentional with what we do.

632
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: We obviously understand the player, what they need, what they

633
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 1: respond best to, because that's a whole thing too. Like

634
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: there's guys that don't respond well to high force training.

635
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: There's guys that don't respond very well to speed and

636
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: like high velocity training like School, Like School wants to

637
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: feel something when he trains.

638
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: You know.

639
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: McKinstry and Riley are guys that like are more driven

640
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 1: towards like the velocity side of the forced velosity curve.

641
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: They like that better.

642
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Now we do have to still sprinkle in like some

643
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 1: high forced stuff, right, strength retention and things like that.

644
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, for those guys that played essentially every day,

645
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: what we do isind of like you know, for Torque

646
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: and McKinstry specifically, it was those guys were like, we're

647
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: consolidating their their training sessions and making them like more

648
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: micro doose training sessions. So it was like pick you know,

649
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: we've got three or five exercises, maybe two or three rounds.

650
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 2: It's like ten or fifteen minutes. But then they come

651
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: in the next.

652
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Day and they do it again, right, and then and

653
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: then maybe that third game that series is off because

654
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 1: it's an night game into a day game. So again

655
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: we kind of structure it based on like night day

656
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,120
Speaker 1: game series.

657
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 3: Or for there's obviously different, but you go two night

658
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: games and then a day game on the third. Usually,

659
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: so just to give you guys kind of a reference

660
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: who don't play or don't really watch baseball, it's usually

661
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: usually there'll be some four game series and some other

662
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 3: crazy stuff. Usually you go three days back to back,

663
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 3: and it's usually two nights, one day in the day's

664
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 3: one ish, sometimes a little bit later, but yeah, yeah,

665
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: so that's definitely a way to think of that. Yeah,

666
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 3: and then usually there's an off day, a travel day.

667
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: Well off day, yeah, it's so so we'd have that

668
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: third game and then like whether it's at home or

669
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: on the road, like an hour after the game's over,

670
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: we're on the plane and we're going to the next city. Yeah,

671
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: and I think the most the most games we played

672
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: in a row last year was like seventeen not enough day,

673
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: so but usually it's like we usually play at least

674
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: six with that enough day.

675
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: If we had an off day every six, that'd be great. Yeah,

676
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't go that way.

677
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: It's usually like nine to every nine to eleven days

678
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: or twelve days we get an off day. So we'll

679
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: go like three series in a row, sometimes four, sometimes five, Yeah,

680
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: without an off day and traveling to different cities and

681
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: changing time zones and like crazy.

682
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot.

683
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 5: That's crazy, Yeah, because like it's it's like a game

684
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 5: of recovery at that point, like who can recover the

685
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: best and do it again?

686
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 4: It's like really stay healthy for that, yeah yeah, who can?

687
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 4: Who can? Yeah, maintain that full recovery the whole time.

688
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 5: That's I mean a lot of what you're saying, which

689
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: is really cool, honestly, is that like it's very similar

690
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 5: to the way I think about stuff. I didn't I

691
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 5: kind of thought so, but was unsure, like the our day,

692
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 5: the low day, and then like you like you literally

693
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 5: explain what we do on our programming on Thursdays like, yeah, I.

694
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: Say, usually the way we go is a three on

695
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: one off.

696
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

697
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: When I say off, some people could take completely off.

698
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: I would yeah, And I'm thinking back when I used

699
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: to compete, it was a three on. Mine was just

700
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: like a like a swim day, run day, bike day,

701
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: something like that or both, and then I'd train again Friday, Saturday,

702
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: and then Sunday was just usually one session on something.

703
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, But like I'm just looking at the the programming

704
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 4: right now.

705
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 5: We're like the on Monday as of right now, we're

706
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 5: doing a lot of pulling from the ground hinging. We're

707
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 5: doing a lot of hinging, so like we have like

708
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 5: a power clean program that day and instead of where

709
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 5: we're doing like a true recovery day, like you're saying,

710
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: is well, it will be different muscle groups. So like

711
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 5: this is a lot more hinging and pulling from the ground,

712
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 5: and we do have like a rock but it's easy,

713
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: so some cardio in there as well. And then the

714
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 5: next day is going to be an upper body day.

715
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: Mostly we did a lot of hinging and pulling from

716
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 5: the ground, lower body stuff, and then the next day

717
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: will be lower body again. So it'll kind of follow

718
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 5: this trend and then you have a recovery day like

719
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 5: you're saying, and it's literally what you accept what you said.

720
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: It's like twenty to thirty minutes of like easy moderate

721
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 5: cardio and then like some stretching, some like active stretching stuff.

722
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, that's I mean, that was pretty cool, Like

723
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 5: I think it being very similar was not.

724
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: Surprising but also a little surprising, I guess.

725
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: I guess I don't know what I was expecting, but

726
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 5: that was pretty cool that, like it's very similar to me.

727
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's like you're structuring, like you're periodizing

728
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: for whoever's in front of you, which a lot of times,

729
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: like you can't just like go, you know, a whole

730
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: month and just like being people onto the ground like

731
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: they're never going to come back.

732
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah, that's not training. You just have to

733
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 3: kill something inside of you.

734
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

735
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: To me, that's not training.

736
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Like anyone can do that, like anyone can make someone

737
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: sweat and like, but it takes like a true practitioner

738
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 1: and to like actually periodize things and like understand what's

739
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: the end goal here and like how are you going

740
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: to get there like realistically.

741
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: And you know, without killing this person right exactly.

742
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, most of most of these people

743
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 3: that he's programming for right now are looking for September, right,

744
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: So it's like we're building building to that point. Right now,

745
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: he's doing a lot of strength, a lot of hypertrophy

746
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 3: type stuff because once we get into later part of

747
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: the summer, then you're just you're rucking and running and

748
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: you're trying to build build that engine, so you're ready

749
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: to go, but you also don't want to neglect that

750
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: this year as well, so you know, and that's that's

751
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: kind of one of the tricky parts of just what

752
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: we do, you know from the online side is you know,

753
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: you're there's so many different people that use the stuff.

754
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm looking at you know, I try

755
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: to do some type of I need something to train

756
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 3: for and so to have some type of challenge every quarter,

757
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: Like we were talking about that run, We've got twenty

758
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: four hour mountain bike race and Amrrillo and then I'm

759
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: gonna do probably three competition CrossFit competitions this summer. But

760
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 3: their partner, yeah, just more fun. And then right now,

761
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: we've got an iron Man on the books for November,

762
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: so you in wow, uh it.

763
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me the day we'll talk about Yeah, Panama City.

764
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 5: Man, let me see if I can move around to

765
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 5: make sure I'm busy that we get exactly Okay, this

766
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 5: is kind of he hinted at it with September two.

767
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 5: Uh So, like what he's talking about is where we're

768
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 5: doing a lot of hyperchav a lot of strength building

769
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 5: because a lot of guys inevitably, when you go hunting

770
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 5: and you're out, like you know, he knows for sure

771
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 5: he goes and he's hunting for like two or three

772
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: weeks out of September, your fitness gets neglected, recovery gets neglected,

773
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 5: sleep gets neglected, nutrition gets everything gets neglected. You're singularly

774
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 5: focused on killing an animal. And then when he come

775
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 5: back from that, you are, you know, a shell of

776
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: what you were. No matter how much you built up,

777
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 5: you end up being a shell of what And I'm

778
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 5: sure it's almost very similar for someone coming out of

779
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 5: a season. They're not the same athlete that they came in,

780
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 5: as you know, in terms of they have probably they

781
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 5: have issues here or there. You know, they have injuries,

782
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 5: and they've kind of limped in for the rest of

783
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:53,959
Speaker 5: the season.

784
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 4: If you were to get an athlete.

785
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: Let's just say, let's say you get trade in, you

786
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 5: get traded in an athlete, what time of the season

787
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 5: would be best for you? Is it like right when

788
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: the off season starts, or is it kind of during

789
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 5: the season so you can see how they play, or

790
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 5: when is a great time to get that athlete to

791
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 5: where you can start assessing them, because you mentioned assessing

792
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:14,879
Speaker 5: is a big part of it.

793
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the best time is probably the off season,

794
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: just because you have the most time with them.

795
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I.

796
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: Mean, and you have every single day with him in

797
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: the season, but baseball's in the way. Yeah, right, So

798
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: like you're very limited with like you have to be

799
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: very intentional with what you're doing and how long because

800
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: you only get these guys for like a finite amount

801
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: of time in season. It's like, hey, they're gonna give

802
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: you like fifteen twenty minutes to train, all right, They're

803
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: gonna give you like five minutes to do a prep

804
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: or repositioning or corrective routine something like that.

805
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: Like they don't have all this time.

806
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 4: Do you want to learn what makes them tick for

807
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: that time?

808
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you've got to have the relationship first

809
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: to get the buy in and all that stuff, but

810
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: like their their attention span and like the amount of

811
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: things they have to get to, Like there's it's a

812
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: combination of like, hey, we're we're under a time constraint here.

813
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 2: I've got to go hit in the caves and I

814
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: gotta go take ground balls and I got to go

815
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: prot I gotta do like inner.

816
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, like yeah, training in season is not number one

817
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: on their least, and for most guys it is a priority.

818
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Is just like number yeah, it's baseball is and people

819
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: don't see, right, it's not as you know, right, so

820
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: you have to understand that. And like, but I think

821
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: the best time is the off season because like that's

822
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: when they're kind of like quote unquote a blank slate

823
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 1: and you can you know, they're going to train three

824
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: to five times a week, you know, and then you're

825
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: gonna get your hands on them for a couple hours

826
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: a day, right, whether it's training, whether it's you know,

827
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: manual therapy like whatever, Like you have the most time

828
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: to make the most change while baseball is not really

829
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: interfering at least not until like December January. Then like

830
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: now we're in January, and like baseball activities ramping, right,

831
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: So they're guys are hitting three or four days a week,

832
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,479
Speaker 1: guys are throwing almost every day, and like they're taking

833
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: ground balls now, and like we're three weeks from you know,

834
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: spring training. Yeah, so it's like at this point, like

835
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: not the best time to to get somebody at the

836
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: end of the off season because like now baseball start

837
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: to take over, take precedent, and now like you've got

838
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: to consolidate and like drive down the stimulus and training

839
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: because otherwise you're just like if you're elevating both together,

840
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are gonna burn out, like nervous

841
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: system wise, are not going to be in a good

842
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: place when they show up to camp. So if you're

843
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: ramping one, you know, stimulus which is why they get paid,

844
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: and got to bring down you know, some other some

845
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: other areas just to accommodate for that. So yeah, again

846
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: I would say beginning of the off season perfect. Does

847
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: it always work out that way?

848
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: Now?

849
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: How often?

850
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 5: Does it?

851
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: Not?

852
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: Very often?

853
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: And then even like trade deadline or like during the season,

854
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, you know, you have a conversation with

855
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: the guy you talk to a strength coach where you

856
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: got traded from you get the assessment information from their trainer,

857
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: but you're almost in a situation too where you're like, Okay,

858
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: I want to figure out if we can help this guy,

859
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: but if he's performing well, I also don't want to like.

860
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: Mess him up.

861
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: So like it's kind of like you have to be

862
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: sure that there's something that you know, and that's a

863
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: decision that's not just mine. It's like the group, like

864
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: our medical group ATCPT, like front office, like all those

865
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: people have to kind of like weigh in on those

866
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 1: decisions and then come to a conclusion that like all right,

867
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna interven intervene here and like find a solution.

868
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 3: Now, is it a mandatory thing that these guys had

869
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 3: to do, like they had to come to sessions or

870
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: did they.

871
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: Just for training?

872
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

873
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: So in baseball they don't. So the players Union is

874
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: like so strong that like these guys legitimately don't have

875
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: to come in and train. There's no finding system, Like

876
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: there's no like like they can just not train now,

877
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Like if the manager the coach wants to go talk

878
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 1: to them at the front office, they can, but like

879
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: there's literally nothing tying them to like coming in to

880
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: train or do treatment or anything like that unless they

881
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: have an injury. Any guys like that, you know, in

882
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: my career in the seven years I was in baseball

883
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: for sure.

884
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, those guys that like.

885
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: No, I'm not touching the oh. I mean you get

886
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: like maybe ten percent, like one of two guys a

887
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,919
Speaker 1: team that are just like, yeah, that's not my thing.

888
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 3: Now. Would guys come in and do their own thing?

889
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a handful of guys that like they

890
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: have a trainer that they've been working with for ten

891
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: years or eight years, like, and so that's like where

892
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: the relationship is really important because you have to respect

893
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: what this guy values. And it's like if he's been

894
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: with this guy for eight years and you just come

895
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: in and say like, well I think that's wrong, you'll

896
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: never have the relationship. So it's like, how can I

897
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: work with this person, not just the athlete, but with

898
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: your trainer and make you and him both feel valued

899
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: because like, you know, if you've had some success with

900
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: the guy, like you can't literally just sit there and

901
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: say like this hasn't worked for you, right, But then

902
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: also the player needs to understand, like we're with you

903
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: every day, we have our hands on you were watching you,

904
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: like we're having conversations about you, So like give us

905
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: a little bit of the time of day two right

906
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: to kind of intervene and like talk to your trainer

907
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: about like what we're seeing. So usually when you approach

908
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: the relationship like that, it works out really well. And

909
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: again that all starts with the relationship with the player.

910
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 2: If you don't have that your toast, So.

911
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: Off season, how does that work off season with our guys, Like,

912
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: there's a handful of guys that train with us. There's

913
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: a handful that again have had their like off season

914
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: training place for years and like kind of the same idea, right,

915
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: Like we just want to have really good relationships with

916
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: those guys so we can call them, text them and

917
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 1: be like, hey, send me this program. Let's get on

918
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: a call, and like let's understand what you're doing this

919
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: phase and actually for the entirety of the off season,

920
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Like we need to understand that because ultimately, when they

921
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 1: show up to spring training, like we are responsible for them,

922
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: so like a lot of it's on us, like if

923
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: they show up out of shape or like we don't

924
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: like the plan, or like we don't like how they

925
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: showed up, Like the answer from their front office is like.

926
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: Well, why didn't you know about it? Like, why didn't

927
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: you intervene?

928
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: Right, So we have we're entirely responsible for that, and

929
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,280
Speaker 1: so like the biggest thing is like making those trainers

930
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: and coaches feel valued, which they are because they're doing

931
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: they're helping us out right, and a lot of them

932
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: are really good. I have good relationships with most of

933
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: those guys. So those guys we just monitor week to week,

934
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: phase to phase until they get to spring, and then

935
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: if we need to give them any input, we need

936
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: to show them any data or like numbers or things

937
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: that we want to see from them when they show up,

938
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: we share that information with them too, and make sure

939
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: that they're they're getting a little bit of what we

940
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: want as well, right, and again reminding them it's like, hey,

941
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: this is coming from the organization, Like this is what

942
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: we need from you, Like you can do your thing,

943
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: but we.

944
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: Need a little bit yeah. Yeah.

945
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: So but then the guys that were in charge of

946
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of makes it a little bit easier

947
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: because we've got everything in house. So you know, as

948
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: a staff, me and my assistant would kind of sit

949
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: down throughout the off season and kind of go over like, hey,

950
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: what are this guys?

951
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: What are these guys goals?

952
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: Like based on like player feedback, coach feedback, front office feedback,

953
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: like where do we need to get this guy three

954
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: or four months from now? And then that gives you

955
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: an idea of like what qualities we want to train

956
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: how early? How much time do we spend in each

957
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: phase because like for each guy could be different, Like

958
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: for a guy that's got like you know, crazy uh

959
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: max strength or absolute strength numbers, like we don't really

960
00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: need to spend a whole lot of time and strength

961
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: like we can spend more time and like power, rate

962
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: of force development, speed like mobility, repositioning, corrective work like

963
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: and again they're all they're going to train. But like

964
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of and we talked about it

965
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: earlier without saying it, but it's like the vertical integration model,

966
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: like all qualities that matter in sport are present. It

967
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 1: just about like adjusting in like what emphasizing, emphasizing what

968
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: qualities during what time, Like if capacities and high volume

969
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: are important, which they are for CrossFit, like you're always

970
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: going to have an element of that in your program.

971
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: It's just like there's a time to emphasize it, and

972
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: there's a time to like kind of put in the

973
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: back seat, and it's like, Okay, we're gonna touch this,

974
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: like at the end of our training session or like

975
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: on our off day, we're gonna do twenty thirty minutes

976
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: of like you know, whatever it is. So it's the

977
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: same thing with with training athletes in baseball and football whatever.

978
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: Those qualities are always going to be present. It's just

979
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: a matter of like like adjusting, adjusting when it's like

980
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: is it a strength block or a force driven block? Okay, well,

981
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: like sixty percent of our work's going to be driven

982
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: towards like a high four stimulus. Like while the like

983
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: doesn't mean power speed work's not there, of course, it

984
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: is like we're still throwing med balls, we're still doing

985
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: resisted sprints, We're still not unresisted sprints. Yeah, it's just

986
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: like we're not emphasizing that in October November still there, right,

987
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: can't Yeah. But then now it's like, okay, we're January.

988
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: So now we're doing like contextual skill work, so curvelin

989
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: you or running because we got to get them prepared

990
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: to run the bases. Right, We're doing fly in so

991
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: max effort, you know, build up sprints like they're you know,

992
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: building up for twenty five thirty yards and then hidden yep, yep,

993
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: hitting the gas for ten to fifteen yards because we

994
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: needed to get the top speed stimulus right. So it's

995
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: just a it's kind of a blending and well, programming

996
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: is an art Like it's an art form, and it's

997
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: something that like I get frustrated with a lot, but

998
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: like I deeply appreciate after being in the profession for

999
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,439
Speaker 1: ten years. It's like I'll still you know, I'll still

1000
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: spend four hours, like I spent four hours doing Bryce

1001
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: Bryce Harper's program, like last weekend when I was in

1002
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: Austin and I was like pissed.

1003
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this takes all?

1004
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 3: Like because you care?

1005
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 4: You can't.

1006
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want this to be perfect for every athlete

1007
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: that you you know that you come across like.

1008
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: So long winded, but no.

1009
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1010
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that that last part is exactly how I am.

1011
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 5: It's like, why why is this taking me so long?

1012
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 5: I've been trying to write like a session for this

1013
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 5: athlete and You're like and I'm doing nitpicky crap where

1014
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 5: like and then I'll all look back at it, and

1015
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 5: I'm saying, there's there really wasn't any difference from what

1016
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 5: I had then and what I have now. But there's

1017
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 5: just that, you know, there's that one percent chance that

1018
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: like that could actually make them better, that little tweak

1019
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: you made, and and you know, you know, maybe you

1020
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 5: don't ever know if that made the difference for sure,

1021
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: but you're like, at least I'm at least I'm giving

1022
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 5: it everything I have and I'm trying that like I do,

1023
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 5: I'm putting all of my brain power into making it better.

1024
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: Right, And this is one question I had when you

1025
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 4: were saying that.

1026
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 5: I just thought of it out this, uh what you

1027
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 5: were what you're saying a little while earlier. So when

1028
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: you get a guy from a different team, you said, like,

1029
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 5: you'll talk to the other uh strength coaches from the

1030
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 5: other teams. How is a relationship there? Like, is there

1031
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 5: any animosity between like between like other strength coaches.

1032
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: I mean like, no, not like that.

1033
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: No. I think maybe some guys probably don't like each other.

1034
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: I was pretty friendly with everybody like and honestly, like,

1035
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, even if you don't

1036
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: like somebody like this guy's doing you a favor by

1037
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 1: exchanging information for.

1038
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: You, like you should probably be respectful.

1039
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1040
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: I enjoyed all my my colleagues across uh, you know,

1041
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 1: baseball never had a problem with anybody.

1042
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's some guys that.

1043
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, like I'm not telling each other, I'm not

1044
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 5: telling you. What makes a guy ticking like we got

1045
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: to play next?

1046
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1047
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I feel like there's some of

1048
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 5: that across it, right, like in the crosso space, Like

1049
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 5: I feel like it could like even though they're not

1050
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 5: not saying there is animosity, I'm just saying that, like

1051
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 5: in the cross the space like at between athletes, like

1052
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 5: an athlete trades camp. But I feel like the coaches

1053
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 5: would be able to come to an agreement and say, hey,

1054
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 5: like I'll like, this is kind of what this guy likes.

1055
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 4: Or no, you're very against that, Scott, What do you think.

1056
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 6: No, they wouldn't do that.

1057
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 5: Maybe everybody everybody. Yeah, maybe maybe I'm just too nice.

1058
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 5: I guess maybe that's a problem.

1059
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: Never heard of that about you.

1060
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 6: I think like normals like real sports are a little

1061
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 6: different though, where they are more used to people like

1062
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 6: changing hands changing Yeah it is.

1063
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: But and it is a little bit different.

1064
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess it would be a little bit a

1065
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: little different, like because it's not like you, it's it's

1066
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 5: you and that athlete, and then when that athlete leaves you,

1067
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: it's that coach and that athlete.

1068
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 4: You know, like there there's.

1069
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 5: A team around that athlete instead of singular like you're like, dude,

1070
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 5: that was like that was my guy, Like that was

1071
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 5: my guy. You took my guy, Like screw you, you

1072
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 5: took my one guy.

1073
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 4: Uh So, yeah, I guess it would be a little

1074
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:58,800
Speaker 4: bit different.

1075
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean this is great news that, like

1076
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: I think based on the I mean, I could be wrong.

1077
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 4: You could had me.

1078
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 5: Fooled, which is great. You seem way smarter than me,

1079
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 5: which isn't hard to be. But like it does back

1080
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 5: up a lot of the stuff that I have been doing,

1081
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 5: like the timing of things and focuses on stuff, like

1082
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 5: you said, the focus on things.

1083
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 4: We literally trade the focus of like the CrossFit stuff.

1084
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 5: He said it where like our CrossFit workouts in our

1085
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 5: programming kind of take the back seat right now, where

1086
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 5: our strength and our hypertrophee are kind.

1087
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 4: Of the focus.

1088
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 5: We're still doing that CrossFit stuff, you know, we're still

1089
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 5: doing the ten or fifteen minute m raps or the

1090
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 5: three rounds of this or five rounds of that. It

1091
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 5: just isn't the precedence right now. We're trying to rebuild

1092
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 5: the strength, trying to get back you know, healthy joints

1093
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 5: where it's been neglected during the season, especially deer hunting.

1094
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: Like you're sitting there eating little debbies, you know.

1095
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 5: That's if you're like me, You sit in the trees,

1096
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 5: they eat little debies for three months and you come

1097
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 5: out of it like you come out of it like

1098
00:46:58,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: a doe.

1099
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 4: Boy. That's me.

1100
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 5: And then uh and then yeah, so we use like

1101
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 5: this winter time, which is great. It's perfect timing for

1102
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 5: us because like hunting season really is over, like the

1103
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 5: end of the year, January starts, and it's like perfect

1104
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 5: time to say, hey.

1105
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 4: We know you need a programming.

1106
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 5: We know you need program you're gonna do the New

1107
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 5: Year's resolution anyways, Like hey, we'll help you out, like

1108
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 5: we have. We literally are tailoring it so you are

1109
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 5: ready for next hunting season, like we're thinking about it

1110
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: and the basically the terms you think about as the

1111
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 5: same terms I'm trying to think about it for these guys.

1112
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 5: As if September is their season. So that's cool. Uh

1113
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 5: makes you feel a little better.

1114
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 3: What's next?

1115
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna say, we talked about baseball a lot,

1116
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 6: but I'd be curious to know like the big differences

1117
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 6: between football and baseball, because while they're both professional athletes,

1118
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 6: I think football is obviously a much different demand in

1119
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 6: terms of in season, it's more physically taxing, probably like week.

1120
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 3: To war time of beating games too, or injury taxing.

1121
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

1122
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: Like, and they have to you probably have to be

1123
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 3: a better shape, that's what they're running a lot.

1124
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 6: It's so much more violent too as a sport, so

1125
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 6: I feel like the training would be much different as well.

1126
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, again there's like similarities but two entirely different sports, right,

1127
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 1: like a contact sport versus a very like skill based

1128
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: rotational sport. Yeah, like I always say, and not that

1129
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: like not that like training people in general is easy,

1130
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: it's not, But like I found it so much more

1131
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: complex to train baseball players and it is to train

1132
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: football players, like because I like certainly like nobody you know,

1133
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: your offensive and defensive line aren't doing the same program

1134
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: as you're like middle linebackers and your tight ends and

1135
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: your fullbacks and running backs, and same for your like

1136
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: wide receivers and dbs.

1137
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: But like you do kind of break.

1138
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: Those groups up skills and it's big yeah, skills, mids, bigs,

1139
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: and then you're able to kind of like program based

1140
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: on like their positional demands, which like those kinds when

1141
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: you break those up, like there's a general under standing

1142
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: like that you know, those the qualities that are you know,

1143
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: those guys need or are pretty similar. So and it's

1144
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: always in a group setting too, so like there's it's

1145
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: not that there's not time for individuality. There is, but

1146
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: you have to be super discreet about like how you

1147
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: individualize because you've got like thirty guys in the same

1148
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: room with three or four coaches. Yeah, you know where

1149
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: baseball is more of a personal training setting, Like guys

1150
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: just come in, roll in like whenever they want. And

1151
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: and certainly there's you know, points in the day where

1152
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: there's like five or six guys or sometimes seven or

1153
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: eight guys in, but sometimes they just shuffle in. So

1154
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: that creates more opportunity for individuality in their training program.

1155
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: If you've just got like a one on one with

1156
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: a guy right. So to that, to that extent, I think,

1157
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: like you think football, and you're like, man, these guys

1158
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: need a coat of armor, right, Like, they got to

1159
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: be strong, they got to be powerful, they got to

1160
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: be explosive, they got to be fast. It's a lot

1161
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: of like physical qualities that dominate that sport, where like baseball,

1162
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 1: not that it doesn't, but it's less because like I've

1163
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 1: had guys that like, you know, get on a force

1164
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: plate and do a countermove a jump or do like

1165
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: an issymmetric myth thipole, which is like a force output

1166
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: you know, isometric force output test, and like on paper,

1167
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: they're one of the worst I've ever seen, But then

1168
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: they go out there and throw one hundred miles an hour.

1169
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 2: He's a future Hall of Famer.

1170
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: So it's like it's not all about like physical outputs

1171
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: right in the sport of baseball, where like if you

1172
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: see that with an NFL guy, like they're probably a

1173
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 1: pretty damn good Like like Joe Thomas with the Browns

1174
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, one of the highest isometric

1175
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: myth thipoles I've ever seen. It's like, okay, yeah, hall

1176
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: of famer, Like yeah, a lot of times in baseball,

1177
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 1: you don't see that, and the guys still go out

1178
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: and like hit four hundred and fifty foot bombs and

1179
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,319
Speaker 1: throw one hundred miles an hour. So it's like, to me,

1180
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: the biggest difference between both of those is like not

1181
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,280
Speaker 1: that like strength training and like compound exercises matter less

1182
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,480
Speaker 1: or they shouldn't be done less, but like I think

1183
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: they correlate a little bit less to like performance outcomes

1184
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: in the sport of baseball. Like a lot of these guys,

1185
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: especially in the big leagues, Like if you're talking like

1186
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: eighteen year old Latin kid that's never trained, like you

1187
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: can do like you do any strength shrain with that kid,

1188
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: he's gonna get he's gonna throw harder, he's gonna hit

1189
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: the ball farther. Like, but these guys who have super

1190
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: robust and develop nervous systems, like adding ten pounds onto

1191
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: their box squad or trap bard deadlift just doesn't move

1192
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 1: the needle from a performance outcome anymore. So like you

1193
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 1: have to find like what genuinely are their KPIs. Like

1194
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: if it's a guy on the mound and it's like, okay,

1195
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: back leg hit by r like holding his back leg

1196
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: through his delivery or like through front foot plant is

1197
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: a kpi for him and he's not doing that.

1198
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 2: Okay, let's like let's figure out.

1199
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: Why does he not have enough hit by r It's

1200
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: like you get him on the table and it's like

1201
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: he's got oh, he's got three degrees and he needs fifteen.

1202
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: So let's re establish that and then let's go test it,

1203
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: like let's get him on the mound or like or

1204
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: or the testing is like when he goes out in

1205
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 1: the game, like and does it get better?

1206
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1207
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: Or if it's like you know.

1208
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: Peak uh peak landing force on his front leg you know,

1209
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: so that like the energy transfer from the leg up

1210
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: through the upper like up through this throwing arm. If

1211
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,399
Speaker 1: it's down like a couple of hundred newtons, that could

1212
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: affect velocity, right, So it's like, okay, why is that

1213
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: like And again it's not it's not like we're going

1214
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: to improve that with a trap or a spot, like

1215
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 1: we have to be like, okay, what's that position biomechanically

1216
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: look like when we're breaking things down? How can we

1217
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 1: recreate that stimulus in the weight room? And again, it's

1218
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: not always going.

1219
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: To be with the bar on your back or like anyhow,

1220
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So that, Oh, it's fun.

1221
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: That's why I'm like, it's you're solving a puzzle everything like,

1222
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: so that's why it's fun. But it's like it's more challenging,

1223
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: it's more demanding, it's more frustrating in my opinion, because

1224
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: it's less straightforward than like a guy that's just like

1225
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: not fast enough, ors like not strong enough. Like to me,

1226
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: getting a guy stronger, faster, more explosive is easasye right,

1227
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: like at this point, like we've all been doing this

1228
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: for a long time.

1229
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 3: And but it's fun in those one percent that you're

1230
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 3: right in one two percent. Especially in baseball, it matters

1231
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 3: a little bit more where it's a team sport. It's

1232
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 3: a pretty individualized team thing.

1233
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 5: You know, you're kind of out there like like you're

1234
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 5: out there, it's it's just you for like there's.

1235
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially you can generally have one guy in the

1236
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,439
Speaker 1: mountain dominate the whole game and you win because of him.

1237
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 2: Like for the most part that happened like.

1238
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 3: Quite a bit, especially the second half of the season. Yeah.

1239
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes you only got to score one run

1240
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: when a guy like that is on the mound and

1241
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: like you can win the game.

1242
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so uh yeah, I could see like a different

1243
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 5: from football, Yeah, because you can just make them most

1244
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 5: of the time stronger, faster athletes, and then they're like

1245
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 5: way better. Like, dude, you're a genius, you know. Yeah,

1246
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,840
Speaker 5: you're like all right, yeah, as long as you believe it,

1247
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 5: you know, Yeah, that's cool. Yeah yeah, I could see, uh,

1248
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 5: like a suit of armor is a good is a

1249
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 5: good analogy for it, Like you just need to make

1250
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 5: that person less resistant to injury or more resistant injury, faster, stronger,

1251
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 5: and then you kind of are like you're in pretty

1252
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: good shape.

1253
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 4: After that, it's just skill, yeah, I mean, and then.

1254
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 5: Like you said, sorry, like you said, like I started

1255
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 5: to think about you know, there's the fire or video

1256
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 5: of Tom Brady run his forty, Like that's just one

1257
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 5: that sticks out to me. He's like you see that

1258
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 5: and you go to this guy you kidding me? But

1259
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 5: then you know he's the best there ever was. There

1260
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: are guys like but there's probably more guys like that

1261
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: in baseball for sure, right than there would be in football.

1262
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 5: Usually those are good tests. You're like, as guys, he's

1263
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 5: all right, yeah.

1264
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: The more the skill based position, like the quarterbacks, Like

1265
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: they don't have to be as no, yeah, physically physically

1266
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: gifted or athletic as some of some of their teammates,

1267
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: right because like Brady again, like you put Brady on

1268
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: a force plane and you have him jump or like

1269
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: just have him to do a vertical jump, Like, yeah,

1270
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: it's probably not as good as the guy next to him. Yeah,

1271
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: Like and that's okay because he doesn't need it and.

1272
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 4: Those tails aren't aren't of his position very well.

1273
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 1: No, And that's like, you know, certainly there's some correlations

1274
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: to like vertical jump hight and peak power on a

1275
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: vertical jump and fastball velocity and next velocity, but like

1276
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: sometimes there's not like so and again like like what's

1277
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: strong enough? Right, Like we it's our job to assess that,

1278
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: like does this guy have more room for physical maturation

1279
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: and like will that impact you know, him impacting the

1280
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: ball harder or like throwing the ball harder. Like those

1281
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 1: are all like KPIs and systems that we've established that

1282
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: we like we have good answers for. So that's that's

1283
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: a fun process too. That's something that takes years to

1284
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: kind of like put together.

1285
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:26,720
Speaker 6: But one of the things on the Mayham Hunt track.

1286
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,359
Speaker 6: We'll train because Rich and I have encountered it a lot.

1287
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 6: Out West is like a like a thirty inch single

1288
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 6: leg box step up, like a lateral box step up.

1289
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 6: And we'll wait at some times, sometimes not because we're

1290
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 6: basically training. You'll love this, like the deep neflection. So

1291
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,640
Speaker 6: if you find yourself with a pack and yeah, you

1292
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 6: slip and fall or something, you're basically training like a

1293
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 6: weak position, Yeah do you. And I've seen like those

1294
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 6: videos like Pat Mahomes training positions where like you might

1295
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 6: be injured, right, So, like in football, is that pretty

1296
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 6: common for them to train a weird position like that

1297
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 6: to like strengthen different ranges of motion in case their

1298
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Speaker 6: body finds themselves in that spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, definitely.

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00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: I think that's all part of like skill skill development,

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00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: skill maturation, like throughout the off season.

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00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: Like I think it's something that.

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00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: Like I think early on you can kind of like

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00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, train some like deeper ranges of emotion underload,

1305
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: like with eccentrics isometrics in disadvantageous positions, like that's great.

1306
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: And then as you get closer to risk when yeah,

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00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, once you get closer to like football

1308
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: or baseball taking over you kind of like let the

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00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: skill take care of itself.

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00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 2: But then yeah, in preparation early on.

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00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: Like find those positions, like yeah, challenge those positions, like

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00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: in a closed environment, then maybe an open environment, and

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00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: then a dynamic environment. So that's like kind of your progression.

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00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: It could be like the same drill, but like ones

1315
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: like you know, predictable and then the next one's not,

1316
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: and then it's like reactive based on your coach, your teammate.

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00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: Like if you're doing like a you know, a skill

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00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: like dynamic you know.

1319
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 3: Competition cosakis squad where it's just your back and forth,

1320
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 3: then you add maybe a bowsuit bawl where you're just

1321
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: doing it on that and then you jump onto the

1322
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 3: bosu bowl and try to like challenge right.

1323
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: And it could be something as simple to like you

1324
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: get a guy up on a on a box and

1325
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: he like jumps off and you push him from behind

1326
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 1: and then you have him like as soon as he lands,

1327
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: he cuts and changes direction right and goes to you

1328
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: know a cone that's five or ten yards away, Like

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00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: it's something like that where like you're certainly not starting there.

1330
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that's where you can get to too, right

1331
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: by the end of the off season.

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00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: Then again like once they getting into OTAs and the

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00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: off season, like you hope you prepare their tissue enough

1334
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: to kind of withstand the forces of the you know,

1335
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: and and the rates of forces that go through the tenons,

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00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: the muscles, the ligaments and the joints. And again no

1337
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: one's perfect, like and no, nothing can truly prepare to

1338
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: prepare you for like fall camp or like spring training,

1339
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: because like you get there and it's just like you

1340
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: hit the ground running, you know, six seven days a week,

1341
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: and your spikes on the ground for you know all

1342
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: freaking yeah, yeah, things happen.

1343
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.

1344
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: The best I mean, I think I've seen this too.

1345
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 5: The best thing to prepare you for your sport is

1346
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 5: your sport.

1347
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah. You can't prevent injury most of the time. No,

1348
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: I can help people get back from their injury quicker,

1349
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 3: the more prepared there on the front. That was one

1350
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 3: of my when I was an assistant when I started

1351
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: as a GA, chip was like, we can't, like contrary

1352
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: to popular belief, cannot you cannot prevent injury. Ever, No,

1353
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: you just can't do it.

1354
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: Now, I think you, I think you hope to like

1355
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: as a practitioner, you hope to mitigate the risks one injury,

1356
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: which happening. But that's like if you can do it,

1357
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: Like if you can put your best foot forward and

1358
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: do that and say that you've done that, like then

1359
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: you should hang your hat on that, even if you

1360
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: get fired or like you get let go. It's like

1361
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: I knew I did everything I could, you know what

1362
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean? But to your point, like nobody could if

1363
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: if if someone could prevent injury, they'd be a trillionaire,

1364
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: like we wouldn't.

1365
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: There would be no strength coaches like.

1366
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would program everyone to follow and he'd be

1367
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 4: the guy.

1368
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: Right, what's next?

1369
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 4: You next?

1370
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: No longer with the Tigers, Man that hurts snow. Yeah,

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00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call when I need tickets.

1372
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 2: And I got you. I still got I still know.

1373
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, I resigned in December after seven years. It's

1374
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: been like to life, man.

1375
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's good, it's fun, but it's like,

1376
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: you know, I've got a wife, you got two dogs.

1377
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 2: We live in Nashville.

1378
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: I never sleep my own bed, I never stay in

1379
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: my house and so and I had some family stuff

1380
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: come up this offseason and it just kind of made

1381
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: me realize that like, you know, yeah, life short, Like

1382
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: I want to I want to spend more time with

1383
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: the people I love and the people I care about,

1384
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: and I want to be able to do stuff like

1385
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: this more often, you know, and uh, you know, meet

1386
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: cool people and not that I didn't in sport, but

1387
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: like ultimately it's like, can I spend more time at home?

1388
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: Can I still yeah? Can I still yeah? Quality of life? Like,

1389
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: can I still scratch.

1390
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: The itch of like you know, training, performance optimization all

1391
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: that stuff with not just like athletes, but like former

1392
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: athletes and whoever whoever else I get, you know, I'm

1393
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to work with. And so that's where like

1394
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: the Collective came in. So we're opening up a twenty

1395
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: five thousand square foot facility in Wedgwood, Houston. We'll probably

1396
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 1: open up in July or August of this year. And

1397
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: that space is basically think a health and wellness country club.

1398
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: Right.

1399
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: So we've got you know, thirteen thousand square feet of

1400
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: training space, We've got fifty five hundred square feet of

1401
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: coworking space that includes a full cafe and smoothie bar,

1402
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: and then we'll have like fifty five hundred square feet

1403
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,360
Speaker 1: of men's and women's locker rooms, high end men's and

1404
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: women locker rooms, and then we'll have a common like

1405
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: hot and cold therapy space, recovery space, so we'll have sauna,

1406
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: cold plunge, red light, norma tech so compression therapy, and

1407
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: then we'll have a group fitness studio as well. We'll

1408
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: have a little merch store, and then the other services

1409
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: that come with that. It's again it's like we kind

1410
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: of want everything under one roof, so we'll have like

1411
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: medical conscier services, so we'll have like blood panels, ivs, peptides, hormone,

1412
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: stem cells like all that stuff, and then we'll have

1413
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 1: personal training, physical therapy, chiropractic, massage, therapy like all those

1414
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: all those services for members, and it's like a it's

1415
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: a it's a member's only exclusive capped club will cap

1416
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: it at six hundred members and we're we're closing in

1417
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: on four hundred applications right now, so I think we'll

1418
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: open our doors mostly.

1419
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: Capped at this point. So I'm really excited.

1420
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna start constructioning here in the next

1421
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks.

1422
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, man, sounds cool. Yeah sounds really cool.

1423
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, good luck on the the new new venture man. Yeah,

1424
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: nominally close to So you have to come up and

1425
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 3: hang out and some of the stupid stuff we do.

1426
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: I would love to. I would love to. Just let

1427
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 2: me know and I'll block my dates, make sure I'm

1428
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 2: not here. Yeah, exactly exactly.

1429
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm going. So you got anything.

1430
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 4: Else, I'm good. That was cool, Ycott, No, that was

1431
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 4: it the only thing.

1432
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 6: The only thing I was thinking about is you live

1433
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 6: in Nashville, unlike what like a quarter acre or something? Half? Yeah,

1434
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 6: how much? How much? How much proper do you have?

1435
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 6: It's like a well, I'm just thinking about how overpopulated

1436
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 6: the deer are in Nashville.

1437
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 3: And maybe urban unt like one to two.

1438
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's make it happen.

1439
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: That'll do me and Scott can make it happen.

1440
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 3: We've done. Next year is a bait state, so you

1441
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 3: can just throw out some bait.

1442
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 6: We've done.

1443
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: You've got like you've got the biggest like Metro Park

1444
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: in East Nashville, like in all of Nashville in East

1445
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: and there's like deer all over that place.

1446
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

1447
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1448
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 4: All we all we need is a singular tree. We

1449
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 4: usual tree.

1450
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, deck of work for frank the deck, saw us

1451
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 5: over some burlap. Frankin he just do from his he

1452
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 5: does right from his porch. And I think there was

1453
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 5: like a black bear underneath, Like he's like, what is

1454
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 5: that down there? I can't see anything.

1455
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 4: It's so dark.

1456
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 6: Still rich Georgia, but yeah, yeah, I mean Nashville is

1457
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 6: one of the most overpopular Davidson County. That county is

1458
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 6: like the most overpopulated deer county in the state.

1459
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 5: They've had three You've been able to do three dose

1460
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 5: a day archery rifle for like as long as I've

1461
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 5: ever walked into it. So yeah, you can shoot. You

1462
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 5: can shoot tons of deer there. It's just like Georgia.

1463
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 5: We go, well, don't tell.

1464
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: I don't tell anyone where you go, only me.

1465
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's all I got though.

1466
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 6: I was just thinking about urban hunting.

1467
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, your mouth salivating.

1468
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 3: Cool man. Appreciate it, Yeah, absolutely appreciate it.