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Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition. Good Friday addition. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you may have the day off. I know

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Speaker 1: all my kids do. So if you hear screaming yelling

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Speaker 1: in the background, I promise they're fine. They're probably just

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Speaker 1: playing video games downstairs. We've got a lot to dive into.

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Speaker 1: But one of my favorite, well, couple of things that

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Speaker 1: are out there. First, this idiot Maryland senator has been

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Speaker 1: able to meet with the wife beating the potentially human trafficking,

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Speaker 1: the gang member, the illegal immigrant from l Salvador who

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Speaker 1: has been returned to El Salvador. I can't believe this

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Speaker 1: is the real resistance that Democrats are mustering. We talked

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Speaker 1: about yesterday, fifty six percent of Americans are in favor

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Speaker 1: of all illegals being deported. What do you think, just

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Speaker 1: off the top of here, Buck ninety ten, if you

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Speaker 1: told people, Hey, this guy from El Salvador who has

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Speaker 1: clear gang affiliation with MS thirteen, a very violent El

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Speaker 1: Salvadoran gang. He has been accused credibly by his own

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Speaker 1: wife of beating her on multiple occasions and the details

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Speaker 1: are not pretty. In the Maryland court proceeding related to that.

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Speaker 1: He was pulled over in the state of Tennessee suspected

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Speaker 1: of human trafficking. The Tennessee State Highway Patrol contacted the FBI,

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Speaker 1: and the FBI said, just let him go. During Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden's era of no punishment for anyone who illegally entered

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Speaker 1: the country, and we know that he illegally entered the country,

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Speaker 1: do you think ten percent of Americans consider him to

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Speaker 1: be a worthy cause for a sitting United States Senator

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Speaker 1: to obsess with or for an American political party to

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Speaker 1: decide is a foundational issue for their representatives to be

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Speaker 1: focused on.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's a little higher than that, but

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Speaker 2: it's a very clear minority. I would guess it's more

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Speaker 2: like twenty eight to twenty five percent, because about twenty

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Speaker 2: percent of the country is politically insane and could go

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Speaker 2: through the because it's about that. Also, even on the

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Speaker 2: you know, eighteen year old boys should be able to

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Speaker 2: play against eighteen year old girls if they say they're

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Speaker 2: trends in sports. I mean, you look at some of

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Speaker 2: these issues, Clay, and we're dealing with a country that's

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Speaker 2: twenty percent wacko. I would say, yeah, that's my general.

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Speaker 2: So so it's it's somewhere around there. I would just

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Speaker 2: throw into the mix here. You know, Clay, there's there's

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Speaker 2: no way that they're going to easily change their minds

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Speaker 2: on how they're going to approach Trump with any of this.

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Speaker 2: But he's not giving them a lot to work with. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: He's not doing things that would be easy for a

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Speaker 2: rational political party to oppose.

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Speaker 3: The stuff that he's doing.

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Speaker 2: And you know, the one place that they thought they

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Speaker 2: were getting some traction was on tariffs. Okay, he did

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Speaker 2: a ninety day pause, and he's negotiating. Let's see, markets

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Speaker 2: have stabilized, let's see, right, so that people won't get

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Speaker 2: people can't get that freaked out about it because that's

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Speaker 2: still very much in progress. And at the end of it,

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Speaker 2: I think he may he may have some really great

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Speaker 2: deals done. So they've decided to go with this. And

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Speaker 2: while I agree with you it's not a strong hand

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Speaker 2: they are playing, I don't know what other hand.

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Speaker 3: They have to play right now.

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Speaker 2: What are they gonna say, kick the borders wide open again,

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Speaker 2: we want all the illegals coming in.

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Speaker 1: We will talk about that a little bit more. I

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Speaker 1: also encourage you, if you are still angry about COVID,

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Speaker 1: as we are in the five year anniversary of fifteen days,

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Speaker 1: I think to stop the spread.

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Speaker 3: Basically, right, it's.

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Speaker 1: A little bit past that, but go right now on

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Speaker 1: your phones to COVID dot gov. The White House has

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Speaker 1: taken over covid dot gov and there, Buck are all

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Speaker 1: sorts of things on that website, including, among others, masks.

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Speaker 1: Don't do anything to stop the spread. There was all

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Speaker 1: sorts of conflicting guidance. This leaked from a Chinese lab.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Fauci was involved in the cover up.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: This is a reckoning for those of us out there

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Speaker 1: that have wanted a reckoning for all the lies we

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Speaker 1: were told during COVID. Covid dot gov. Check it out

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Speaker 1: and make sure that you do not miss it.

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Speaker 3: Today.

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Speaker 1: It is a incredible good Friday for those of us

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Speaker 1: out there who have been demanding this reckoning. Speaking of reckonings, though, Buck,

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Speaker 1: our good friend Leticia James, just to confirm staff she

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Speaker 1: Kathy Hokel. I'm assuming either or Andrew Cuomo. But they

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Speaker 1: She says, Remember to refresh New York Attorney General Leticia James,

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Speaker 1: who said no one is above the law and no

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Speaker 1: one should be able to lie on a mortgage application

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Speaker 3: These were her own words, not mine.

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Speaker 1: She now says that despite the fact that she has

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Speaker 1: been caught lying on her mortgage applications, this is just

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Speaker 1: President Trump's revenge tour. She has spoken out about the

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Speaker 1: lies and the fraud that she has committed, and she

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Speaker 1: says this is just about President Trump. Buck, you predicted this.

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Speaker 1: But let's listen to cut four.

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Speaker 4: Let me just say two all New Yorkers and to

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Speaker 4: all Americans, the allegations are baseless. The allegations are nothing

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Speaker 4: more than a revenge tour. And as you mentioned, my

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Speaker 4: office was successful in securing a four hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: four million dollar judgment against Donald Trump and others for

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Speaker 4: exaggerating the value of his assets, engaged in a patent

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Speaker 4: and practice of fraud, and the interest is accruing each

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Speaker 4: the First Department. It's important that individuals know that this

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Speaker 4: is nothing more than the continuation of the tour he

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Speaker 4: went after law firms, universities, immigrants, women, thousands of federal

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Speaker 4: employees right now are unemployed. Our government is in chaos

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go ahead and cut her off here. So buck,

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Speaker 1: am I missing it? Or did she explain anything about

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Speaker 1: why she lied on her mortgage claim in that in

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Speaker 1: that litany that we played for you, she's going going all.

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Speaker 2: In on the Clay Davis maneuver here from the wire, which, again,

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Speaker 2: for those of you haven't seen it, a black politician

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Speaker 2: in Baltimore Democrat is caught red handed, red handed with

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Speaker 2: stand and is like, this is racism. I've done so

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Speaker 2: much for my community, has nothing to do with anything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just figure and he gets off right.

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Speaker 2: It's it's that's the move that she's pulling here, except

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Speaker 2: in this case she's just leaning in on the anti

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Speaker 2: Trump thing, not the this is you know, racist persecution. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she's saying that this is all about going after Trump. No,

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Speaker 2: it's actually all about whether you committed mortgage fraud. And

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Speaker 2: she don't speak to it, but I will say this,

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Speaker 2: if you haven't committed, you know, I get how this

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Speaker 2: why don't you just say I didn't do this thing?

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: I feel like she's speaking about this in a very

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Speaker 2: loyally way that doesn't address did you do it?

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Speaker 3: Well? This is also the problem she's in.

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Speaker 1: I'll play cut six here in a moment, but the

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Speaker 1: problem she's in, as we told you, this isn't a

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Speaker 1: complicated case, right. A lot of allegations of impropriety are

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Speaker 1: into your head. Most of you, at some point in time,

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Speaker 1: either have or will fill out a mortgage application. It

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Speaker 1: is not believable to me that the chief legal officer,

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Speaker 1: a highly trained lawyer of New York, would accidentally click

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Speaker 2: I would also add to that, Clay, you and I

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Speaker 2: At some point in time you have conversations with your lender.

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Speaker 2: This isn't just This isn't like checking a box when

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Speaker 2: a major This is the largest purchase that ninety nine

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Speaker 2: And unless you're getting like a Bezos yacht. And this

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Speaker 3: We've gone through this, so there's so many way there

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Speaker 3: is no defense.

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Speaker 2: There's no defense because it's not possible. She would know

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Speaker 2: that she got a preferential rate. She would know what

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Speaker 2: and I own my home. There's no way you could

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Speaker 2: It's not possible. And it's again, I think it's so key.

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Speaker 1: The Virginia property, in particular, she can't have lived there

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Speaker 1: New York's Attorney General. But make no mistake her only

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Speaker 1: this is racism. Here's cut six. She says people are

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Speaker 1: harassing her relatives in Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 1: This is also I know you said she spoke loyally,

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Speaker 1: but this is also an admission in some ways that

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Speaker 3: Cut six.

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Speaker 5: I was under the impression by all of this that

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Speaker 5: what they were really looking for is what they got,

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Speaker 5: which is a headline saying, you know, James is under

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Speaker 3: Is that pretty much what's going on here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they got. That's what they got. And

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Speaker 4: it's unfortunate that you have some of these right wing

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Speaker 4: conservative individuals who are camped out in front of my

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Speaker 4: in Virginia, harassing them each and every day. And it's

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Speaker 4: unfortunate knocking on the doors of my neighbors and the

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Speaker 6: And it is.

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Speaker 4: Nothing more than a headline, nothing more than again, retaliation

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Speaker 4: against all of the actions that I have taken successfully

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but again yeah, sorry, are. We're both very

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Speaker 2: fired up, and I don't want to ever cross talk play.

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Speaker 2: I just clay play. First of all, she wasn't successful

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Speaker 2: in so far as he's president now, and the whole

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Speaker 2: game was to destroy important Yeah, right, I think that's

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Speaker 2: kind of a big deal, right, She's like, I was

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Speaker 2: so sixsed.

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Speaker 3: Actually not so much. He won. But but beyond that, the.

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Speaker 2: Way that she's talking about this, it's she's not addressing

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Speaker 2: information is going to come out that she did the thing,

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Speaker 2: and then she's just going to say it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: You should nullify. You know, this is gonna be the

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Speaker 2: implicit argument you should nullify mortgage fraud statutes because I'm

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Speaker 2: anti I'm a I'm an anti Trump warrior for the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: and that's going to be the whole, the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: This is why I think they need to bring state

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Speaker 2: and federal charges in multiple jurisdictions, because you don't know

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Speaker 2: what the jury pool you're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what Norfolk looks like. I do know

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Speaker 1: New York City. There may be a juror that will

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Speaker 1: If you bring charges, I don't think you could stay

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Speaker 2: The avalanche of emails from ladies who like short kings,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: This happened yesterday.

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I think this story is going to continue

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Speaker 1: to grow, and it's got a really nasty, divisive tone

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Speaker 1: seventeen year old kid stabbed to death at a track meet.

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Speaker 1: Kid's name was Austin Metcalf. And yesterday Carmelo Anthony's legal

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Speaker 6: I'm going to say so it don't be asked later,

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Speaker 3: But he did it.

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Speaker 6: And so I say to people, actions speak louder than words. Okay.

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Speaker 6: What he has failed into is the political operatives that

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Speaker 3: Bigotry and get racism.

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Speaker 6: We have conservative operatives that have been posting none stop

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Speaker 1: I've boggled beyond belief. Let me give you the name

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Speaker 1: But buck to start off by saying, well, your character's

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Speaker 2: Everyone who is paying attention to this case is seeing

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Speaker 2: Somehow this is writing a historical wrong. I mean, this

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Speaker 3: This is what he said. Listen to this and that

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Speaker 2: He is running away from a cop and the cop

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Speaker 2: draws down and shoots him at about twenty five yards

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely murder.

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Speaker 2: That is absolutely not in any rules of engagement or

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Speaker 2: self defense or force escalation regulations. And that officer ended

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Speaker 2: up going away for I think it was murder. I

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Speaker 2: can't remember what the sentence was, but imagine for a

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Speaker 2: second clay of when that happened, that video came out

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Speaker 2: and the facts were not on dispute. All of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: there was this whole push to raise money for the

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Speaker 2: officer who shot this black guy and the yea and

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Speaker 2: killed him for no reason, and and that there were

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Speaker 2: all these all these spokesmen coming forward talking about that

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Speaker 2: the challenge of this white officer's life and how he

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Speaker 2: You know, this shows how how tough it is on

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Speaker 2: the job, and you would say, what the heck.

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Speaker 3: Is wrong with these people?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 2: What is going on here that's happening right now with

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Speaker 2: this guy? Uh Carmelo Anthony in Texas. You have people

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Speaker 2: that are coming forward to really just celebrate them, celebrate

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Speaker 2: the murder and back up the murder of a young

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Speaker 2: white guy who did nothing to deserve being killed at all.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how it's it's very straightforward.

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Speaker 3: I've noticed.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen much coverage of this from like the

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Speaker 2: New York Times, Washington Post? I was looking for it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like they're not getting deep into this story yet,

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Speaker 2: am I not?

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Speaker 3: Something not right?

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Speaker 1: No, not only that buck remember when they started tracking

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Speaker 1: down everybody who donated to Kyle Rittenhouse for his defense fund?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean some.

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Speaker 1: I remember some guy like donated fifty bucks and a

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Speaker 1: report showed up at their door. Do you remember this

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Speaker 1: story and outed them and did a full report on hey,

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Speaker 1: why are you donating this to this this defense fund?

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Speaker 1: Look at some of the comments that are being made.

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Speaker 1: To my knowledge, nobody's covering any of the people that

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Speaker 1: are donating to the defense Fund. Now, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that I think that that was a fair story in

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Speaker 1: the first place. I think if you donate fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: to some charity event, I don't think the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: should show up at your door knocking on it. But

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Speaker 1: they did that to Kyle Rittenhouse's donors, and I think

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Speaker 1: one of the guys got fired in Utah. I remember, correctly,

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Speaker 1: we're recalling old stories. Let's see if I can nail

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Speaker 1: that story too, like Buck did earlier with Marilyn Moseby.

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Speaker 1: But I remember just being in disbelief that you could

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Speaker 1: donate to a charitable cause in some way and a

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Speaker 1: reporter could show up at your doorstep asking why did

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Speaker 1: you donate fifty.

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Speaker 5: Fifty dollars A time about fifty thousand dollars to Kyle

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Speaker 5: Rittenhouse's defense Fund was worthy of you having a story

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Speaker 5: written about you and you being tracked down by a

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Speaker 5: reporter to answer for why you gave fifty dollars to

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Speaker 5: his self defense fund.

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Speaker 2: It's it's remarkable, though, that this is this is happening,

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Speaker 2: and that you're not even you're not seeing any Democrat,

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Speaker 2: anybody with any standing in the Democrat or the black

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Speaker 2: community come forward to say, guys, this is not this

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Speaker 2: is not what we should be doing here.

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Speaker 3: What are you you know?

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Speaker 2: Yes, is he entitled to a defense? Yes, of course

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Speaker 2: he's in toited legal defense. Is he entitled to all

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Speaker 2: the rights of the accused? Yes, he's in title all

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Speaker 2: the rights of the accused. Should you be, you know,

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Speaker 2: publicly attacking the father of the deceased and giving this

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Speaker 2: kid's family a million dollar house to live in, and

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Speaker 2: all raising money and writing things online about how the

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Speaker 2: white kid deserved it. That's what's going on. That's the

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Speaker 2: problem that we are seeing. That's what everyone, I think

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Speaker 2: is is reacting to. And it is very interesting. I

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Speaker 2: wanted to check with you because I did a couple

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Speaker 2: of searches. New York Times, Washington Post not really touching

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Speaker 2: this because I think I think that some of their reporters,

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Speaker 2: and first of all, they're not as powerful as they

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Speaker 2: used to be. They can't withstand the screwtin either way

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Speaker 2: they used to. I think they realized, Clay, you have

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Speaker 2: a New York Times editorial, you know that's that's playing

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Speaker 2: this whole game of oh, we just need to raise

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Speaker 2: money so that he has a good legal defense and

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Speaker 2: everything else, they will get absolutely annihilated in public. They

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Speaker 2: can't defend this. This story.

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Speaker 1: In Utah, they did an investigation into a Utah paramedic

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Speaker 1: who donated ten dollars to Kyle Rittenhouse's legal defense.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: They showed up at his house to ask him why

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Speaker 1: he was doing it. And credit to our team for

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Speaker 1: finding it. Utah reporter tracking down a guy who donated

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Speaker 1: ten dollars.

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Speaker 2: As I told you guys yesterday, I'm really loving this

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Speaker 2: this book mal the untold story about the eyes of

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Speaker 2: malt Say Toongue and what he did. And I know

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Speaker 2: it sounds like I'm making a huge I'm weaving way

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Speaker 2: too far here, but you read about the culture revolution,

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Speaker 2: Clay and the mentality and you're just like, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: Democrats in the first two years of Biden's administration.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just completely.

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Speaker 2: Drunk on power, no principles, no fair play. Whatever they

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Speaker 2: can do to destroy anybody in the way. You know,

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Speaker 2: they took it to the max and now they're paying

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back into Clay Ann Buck. We are

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Speaker 2: joined now by Mike Gallagh. He is head of defense

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Speaker 2: at Palentier. He's got a really interesting piece in the

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Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal Time for Accountability on the COVID lab

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Speaker 2: leak cover up. Mike, appreciate you making the time for us.

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Speaker 8: It's an honor to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Let's just jump into it. You got into this in

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Speaker 2: your piece. What does accountability look like? What does the

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Speaker 2: public need to know? What steps have to be taken

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Speaker 2: now when it comes to the lab leak cover up?

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Speaker 3: I see I love that there's a picture.

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Speaker 2: Of Fauci touching a little fake virus in your op ed.

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Speaker 2: He's the absolute worst. What needs to happen.

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Speaker 9: Well, I can't claim credit for the artwork that comes

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Speaker 9: with these op eds. I just do the words, but

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Speaker 9: it was quite nice to me. It just starts with

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Speaker 9: the basic step of complete declassification of relevant intelligence. If

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Speaker 9: you remember, we actually passed the law when I was

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Speaker 9: in Congress requiring that the Biden administration do just that,

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Speaker 9: but they didn't comply with the law. When they finally

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Speaker 9: did an investigation into the origins of COVID, it was

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Speaker 9: not serious. What came out was heavily redacted. It was

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Speaker 9: a regurgitation of the prevailing consensus. And so there's been

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Speaker 9: no accountability for our own scientific establishment which was profoundly corrupted.

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Speaker 9: Our own intelligence community was parroting the corrupted consensus of

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Speaker 9: the scientists, and even the authors of the proximal Origins article,

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Speaker 9: which spread a lot of this misinformation, have not been

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Speaker 9: held accountable.

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Speaker 8: If the opposite has happened.

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Speaker 10: They continue to get awards, Fauci continues to be lauded,

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Speaker 10: and we have centers named after Fauci. And without that

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Speaker 10: basic step of accountability, people just aren't going to trust

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Speaker 10: the government. They're not going to trust the health institutions,

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Speaker 10: the scientific institutions, and therefore we're less prepared to prevent

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Speaker 10: that future pandemic. So I think accountability starts with getting

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Speaker 10: the information out there, even if it's super embarrassing too.

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Speaker 10: The government agencies that allowed tax dayer dollars to be fundled,

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Speaker 10: funneled your corrupt nonprofits like the Eco Health Alliance and

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Speaker 10: wind their way into the hands of the Muhan.

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Speaker 8: Institute of Virology.

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Speaker 10: There's been no accountability thus far.

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Speaker 1: That's why I read your piece and I appreciate you

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Speaker 1: coming on with us. I know how busy you are

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Speaker 1: in your new job, and we'll talk about that maybe

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Speaker 1: in a moment. But Trump for people who do not know,

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Speaker 1: I encourage you to go to COVID dot gov today

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Speaker 1: and look at everything that's being laid out there. We're

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Speaker 1: five years after COVID, and Buck and I focus on

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Speaker 1: this a lot because we're kind of history nerds, and

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Speaker 1: one of the good things about time passing is over time,

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Speaker 1: history I like to think becomes more honest about what

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Speaker 1: really transpired. Are you optimistic that twenty forty years from

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Speaker 1: now will get a more honest version of what happened?

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Speaker 1: And the failures of this nation when it comes to

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Speaker 1: responding to COVID in generations ahead, or do you think

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Speaker 1: the same people that are trying to stop us now

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Speaker 1: will continue to fight for generations into the future to

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Speaker 1: avoid acknowledging how wrong they were.

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Speaker 10: Well, I would only say I don't think we have twenty,

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Speaker 10: let alone forty years right. We had a report a

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Speaker 10: few months ago that in February, researchers that the will

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Speaker 10: had Incevivirology had experimented with a new bat coronavirus that

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Speaker 10: looked a lot similar to COVID nineteen. What you learn

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Speaker 10: is you sort of dig into the nature of what

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Speaker 10: happened in Muhan, but lab accidents more broadly is that

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Speaker 10: these are actually more common than we realize, and so

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Speaker 10: part of the push for accountability is based on the

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Speaker 10: idea that the risks of a pandemic like the one

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Speaker 10: we went through with COVID nineteen or with one that

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Speaker 10: could be far worse if a future virus were just

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Speaker 10: as pathenogenic or more lethal. Rather, those risks have not

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Speaker 10: gone down. We haven't learned any lessons, and so we

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Speaker 10: need accountability on a year timeline, not a twenty year

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Speaker 10: time which is why I was very glad to see

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Speaker 10: that Resident Trump launched his website. I would encourage all

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Speaker 10: Americans to go to the website right now and really

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Speaker 10: lays out five basic common sense truths that the government

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Speaker 10: heretofore is not acknowledged. One, the virus possessed biological characteristics

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Speaker 10: that you couldn't find in nature. To all the data

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Speaker 10: suggests it's stemmed from a single introduction into humans, not

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Speaker 10: multiple spillovers like previous pandemics. Three, that the Wuhan Institute

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Speaker 10: had conducted gain to function research.

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Speaker 8: At an adequate safety levels.

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Speaker 10: Or that the researchers at the Wuhan It's too fell

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Speaker 10: ill with COVID months before the virus was allegedly discovered

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Speaker 10: at a web market. And finally, after all these years,

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Speaker 10: there's no scientific evidence of a natural origin that has surfaced.

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Speaker 10: That alone has done more to advance the case of

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Speaker 10: accountability than under four years of President Joe Biden.

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Speaker 8: So we need to press the gas.

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Speaker 10: We need to hold our own agencies accountable, and again

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Speaker 10: we need to declassify all the relevant information.

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Speaker 2: Mike, I wanted to pivot a little bit here and

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Speaker 2: lean into another area of expertise, something you're dealing with

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Speaker 2: day in and day out now as head of Defense

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Speaker 2: at Palenteer Technologies. I think one of the lessons that

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Speaker 2: anybody paying attention to what's going on over in Ukraine

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Speaker 2: with Russia, and especially if they're looking ahead at the

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Speaker 2: possibility at some point in the future of some kind

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Speaker 2: of hot conflict with China, is technology is going to

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Speaker 2: be absolutely critical. We're looking at drones, We're looking at

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Speaker 2: a future of telecommunications and high speed computing making decisions

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Speaker 2: on the battlefield. That is truly the stuff of sci

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Speaker 2: fi from not long ago, and it's it's becoming reality

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Speaker 2: now every day. But with that said, I know Palenteers

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Speaker 2: involved in the high tech edge of things with defense.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't long.

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Speaker 2: Ago where Google was upset. There was like an uprising

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Speaker 2: at Google over the prospect of doing anything that helped

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Speaker 2: the United States Pentagon right, like as if Silicon Valley

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Speaker 2: was its own little fiefdom that did not actually become

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Speaker 2: or was not actually a part of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that is changing now? Do you

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Speaker 2: feel like there's an understanding that companies that are US based,

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Speaker 2: that employ Americans have a role in defense and that

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Speaker 2: means that they should take a patriotic position on Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we will work with the United States Pentagon.

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Speaker 8: I think it is changing.

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Speaker 10: I mean Google has actually recently changed its position. And

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Speaker 10: if you remember at the time, the reason so many

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Speaker 10: of us got upset when Google abandoned Project mayven is

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Speaker 10: they were simultaneously trying to work with China AI exactly

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Speaker 10: an AI center in Beijing. It was subsequently revealed there

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Speaker 10: was a project that they did abandon, but a project

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Speaker 10: they were exploring to center internet search in China.

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Speaker 8: So the message was, well.

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Speaker 10: We're cool working with a genocidal communist regime, but not

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Speaker 10: with the American military, because the American military occasionally has

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Speaker 10: to do things like kill Falafe Jiahatis in order.

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Speaker 8: To keep America safe.

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Speaker 10: And so into the brief step Talenteer, which was unapologetic

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Speaker 10: in its belief that America is the greatest country in

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Speaker 10: the history of the world, that we should have the

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Speaker 10: most lethal military in the world, and that some folks,

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Speaker 10: be they terrorists.

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Speaker 8: Or other bad guys, need to be killed occasionally.

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Speaker 10: And I do think what we're seeing on the battlefield

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Speaker 10: in Ukraine is forcing people to re examine their previously

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Speaker 10: held assumptions. There's a lot of capital in the venture

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Speaker 10: capital community that is trying to flow into defense technology companies.

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Speaker 10: And finally, I would say not to talk to my

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Speaker 10: own book. But when you have a company like Talent

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Speaker 10: that spent two decades trying to survive the so called

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Speaker 10: Valley of Death because it isn't easy for a defense

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Speaker 10: technology company to succeed because the Pentagon can be a

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Speaker 10: difficult customer, it proves to other companies that are trying

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Speaker 10: to do the same that.

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Speaker 8: It's possible to survive.

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Speaker 10: It's possible to go public, it's possible to have a

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Speaker 10: mission focused company, and that also is successful financially, which

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Speaker 10: is why we founded something called the First Breakfast Initiative,

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Speaker 10: which is designed to make it easier for non traditional

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Speaker 10: defense technology companies to serve and thrive because we need more. Right,

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Speaker 10: we can't just have five primes that control everything. We

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Speaker 10: need the primes to survive. They're always going to be there,

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Speaker 10: but we need a more diverse ecosystem of defense technology companies.

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Speaker 10: If we are going to have a hope of deterring

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Speaker 10: China from invading Taiwan, as well as simultaneously going after

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Speaker 10: terrorists in the Middle East and the other threat actors,

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Speaker 10: we have to deal with.

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Speaker 1: What you just said I think is important and also

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Speaker 1: to me connects with your editorial in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: which is about the importance of truth and the commitments

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Speaker 1: of fact. When you see so much of what's going

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Speaker 1: on in America today and around the world, whether it's

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Speaker 1: celebrating the United Healthcare CEOs killer, whether it is down

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Speaker 1: in Frisco, Texas, Carmelo Anthony stabs a seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: in the heart and raises four hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: As you just mentioned, so many of.

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Speaker 1: These elite institutions out there had people marching in favor

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Speaker 1: of the perpetrators of October seventh. Why are we having

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Speaker 1: such a different This is a big philosophical question, But

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Speaker 1: why do you think we're having such a challenge, especially

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Speaker 1: going into the Holy week of good and evil recognizing

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Speaker 1: them and being willing to stand on the side of good.

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Speaker 11: Well, I do think, you know, to really take it,

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Speaker 11: make it biblical, and maybe betray my Catholic perspective. I

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Speaker 11: do think as religion has retreated in.

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Speaker 8: Terms of its role in American.

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Speaker 10: Life, people have sought out other gods and in some ways,

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Speaker 10: politics or you know, a political tribe can become a

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Speaker 10: cult and still kind of a God shaped hole in

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Speaker 10: people's hearts. And I think correspondingly, there's also this epistemological

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Speaker 10: crisis that we have in America where people no longer

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Speaker 10: trust any sources of information, right, Like, we have this.

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Speaker 8: Very balkanized media landscape.

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Speaker 10: Where nobody really knows where to go to get truth,

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Speaker 10: and the risk of that is people can kind of

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Speaker 10: opt in to whatever reality they just want to live in,

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Speaker 10: and it's very hard to have a coherent conversation based

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Speaker 10: on facts, based on logic. As a result that being said,

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Speaker 10: you know, as a product of representing northeast Wisconsin, where

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Speaker 10: we're going to host the NFL Draft here shortly by

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Speaker 10: the way, everybody, I'm very excited. It's a huge, huge

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Speaker 10: thing for Green Bay, Wisconsin, a huge thing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 10: I think most people are just common sense, right. There

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Speaker 10: was this revolution of common sense that President Trump talked about.

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Speaker 10: I mean, people were afraid initially to speak their minds,

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Speaker 10: you know, particularly in COVID. But people started to see

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Speaker 10: what was happening to our kids with schools being shut down,

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Speaker 10: wasp happened to our loved ones who were being locked up,

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Speaker 10: and they thought, this doesn't make any sense. I do

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Speaker 10: have this abiding faith in the common sense of the

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Speaker 10: American people. Right now, they're demanding change and reform in

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Speaker 10: the basic institutions of government. I think Trump is an

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Speaker 10: instrument for that that change. It can be very disruptive

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Speaker 10: at times, that's what the American people want. So we

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Speaker 10: have to get back to that at the end of

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Speaker 10: the day. Like we have to realize, of course America's

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Speaker 10: not perfect, but we're the good guys, right we are

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Speaker 10: the greatest country in human history. That comes with a

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Speaker 10: great responsibility. But the rest of the world is looking

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Speaker 10: to us for leadership to leave with courage. If you

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Speaker 10: remember when China took over Hong Kong and hundreds of

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Speaker 10: thousands of people came out into the streets to protest,

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Speaker 10: what were they waving. They were waving American flags, right.

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Speaker 10: They were looking to us as an example for a

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Speaker 10: free society, and that's something we all have a duty

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Speaker 10: to maintain.

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Speaker 1: Well said, have a good Holy week and weekend, and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you again, hopefully soon. Encourage people to

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Speaker 1: go check out that editorial in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Mike Gallagher, now inside of Defense Universe,

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Speaker 1: but previously Green Bay Wisconsin Congressman. And yes, the NFL

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Speaker 1: draft coming up soon, and he just talked about good

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Speaker 1: and evil.

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Speaker 3: Holy Week.

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Speaker 2: And it's something of a special anniversary. In fact, one

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Speaker 2: of our listeners, Steve from Pittsburgh, who listens on WHLO

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Speaker 2: in akron, he sent in this talk back as a

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Speaker 2: helpful reminder for what the anniversary is.

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Speaker 3: Play d D.

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Speaker 13: Hey guys, this is Steve from Pittsburgh, PA listening to

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Speaker 13: whlo am six forty a acron. Got a question for you, Buck.

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Speaker 13: It was eleven years ago today that you made your

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Speaker 13: debut behind the Golden EIB microphoonte would like and it

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Speaker 13: was good Friday too. Would like to know your thoughts

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Speaker 13: recollections from that day. How did it come about? Anything

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Speaker 13: like that you might want to share to us with

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Speaker 13: us be really interesting.

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Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: First of all, play incredible memory from this guy because

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Speaker 2: he is not a cousin or an uncle of mine.

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Speaker 2: I did not put him up to this. I know

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty wild recall.

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Speaker 1: This guy's got it's ridiculous love affair here that he

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Speaker 1: would remember. But credit to him eleven years. Eleven years,

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Speaker 1: not even like it was ten or five. It's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, eleven's kind of a no offense to anybody

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Speaker 1: celebrating their eleventh wedding anniversary. But usually it's not like, oh,

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Speaker 1: my goodness, but yes, this is impressive, So Steve, I

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Speaker 1: have yes, it was eleven years ago.

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Speaker 2: I sat at the Golden EIB Mike, a young buck,

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Speaker 2: thirty thirty. Gosh, hold am I thirty two years old?

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Speaker 2: I was either the youngest or maybe Hannity. I don't know, guys,

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Speaker 2: we got to check on this was Hannity the youngest

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Speaker 2: to ever stated at the EIB Mike at that time?

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Speaker 3: Or is it me?

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Speaker 2: I think we're within a year of each other. So

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Speaker 2: I don't know who gets the uh who gets the

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Speaker 2: youngest title? But you want to know what it was like,

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you about what it was like. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the team pulled this when they saw this talk back,

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Speaker 2: they pulled this up. This was I don't even know

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Speaker 2: what this is gonna sound like, but well, let's just

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Speaker 2: say here's what it was like years ago. Cut twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Filling in for Rush.

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Speaker 14: And now filling in for Rush Limbaugh he's a national

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Speaker 14: security editor for the Blaze of Formers, CIA officer who

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Speaker 14: served tours in Iraq and Afghanistan. He's also worked as

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Speaker 14: a counter terrorism specialist for the New York Police Department.

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Speaker 14: Ladies and gentlemen, here's Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton here filling in for Rush Limbaugh today. I'm

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Speaker 2: also just to bring you up to speed the national

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Speaker 2: security editor of the Blaze dot Com. I'm fighting a

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Speaker 2: tiny bit of a cold, but couldn't pass up this

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Speaker 2: opportunity to have a chance to speak to all of you.

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Speaker 3: You sound so young, You sell so incredibly young. I was.

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Speaker 2: I was very young, but beyond that, So this is

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00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 2: you asked what it was like fast forward. I gave

877
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 2: Russia's team reached out. I had filled in for Glenn Clay.

878
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: I had filled in for.

879
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Hold on one joke, Before you tell your serious story,

880
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: producer Greg says a cold.

881
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: He sounds like he's going through puberty.

882
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,439
Speaker 2: So wow, producer Greg at two Greg, right right after

883
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 2: the Rangers game.

884
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 3: Greg, really really?

885
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I see right now you can tell your serious story.

886
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: But I wanted to Greg deliver a shot across the

887
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 1: bow to start, so well, let me let me just

888
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: say this, this is all, this is all true.

889
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: And if my mom's listening, she's gonna have flashbacks because

890
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: I had been at the Blaze only for a couple

891
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 2: of years. At this point, I'd filled in for Glenn,

892
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 2: and then I filled in for Sean Hannity and then

893
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 2: Rush's team. Sure enough, they said we're gonna let you

894
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: sit at the at the Golden Mic, and I was,

895
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: you know, this was a huge break in my career.

896
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: I was incredibly excited, and I came down the week

897
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 2: of it. I came down with a cold, and I

898
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: remember thinking, Okay, this will be fine because all the

899
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: cold will be bad on the Monday Tuesday, but by

900
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: Friday I should be okay. What I didn't realize is

901
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: that sometimes if you're going to get leeryingitis, it happens

902
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: toward the end of the cold, or rather, you know,

903
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: mid to end of the cold, because your vocal cords

904
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,720
Speaker 2: get so inflamed and dried out from the virus clay.

905
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 2: The day before I had that show, I had the

906
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: only time in my life this has happened to me.

907
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: I could not speak at all. I had no voice whatsoever.

908
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: And that sounds obviously like I'm gonna wimp out of this,

909
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 2: so I can't. I don't know what I'm gonna do,

910
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 2: so I'm scrambling. I'm drinking tea. I'm doing all this

911
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 2: sort of stuff and God bless her. I call my mom.

912
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: I say, Mom, I got a fill in for Rush tomorrow.

913
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, I was.

914
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: Like, ah that, I mean I had nothing, no voice, nothing.

915
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: And she finds she's just scrambling. We're doing online research.

916
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: She finds somebody who is the person the doctor in

917
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Speaker 2: New York who opera singers go to when it's opera

918
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: night and they have Oh and there's something that she

919
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: can do. And so my mom and this is all

920
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: my mom, I gotta say. My mom calls this doctor

921
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: who says, I'm not open tomorrow. I'm going to the Hamptons.

922
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: My mom says, my son is filling in for the

923
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: biggest radio show in the country. I guess in the world.

924
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a bigger show in China,

925
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: but you know, bigger show in the world. Can you

926
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: please just help him, like whatever you can do. She goes,

927
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 2: all right, the day of I go in there, and

928
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: I go in there ten o'clock in the morning. She

929
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: looks at my vocal cords. It's doctor Coravin. She looks

930
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: at my vocal cords, Clay, and she goes, you you

931
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: are you are cooked? There's no chance you're going to

932
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 2: be able to do this show. The only option is

933
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a steroid shot. The steroid

934
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: shot will bring the inflammation of your vocal cords down,

935
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: but it will only last three to four hours. Oh wow.

936
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 2: So it's like ten thirty in the morning the day

937
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 2: of the show. And you know, she didn't she didn't know,

938
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 2: she didn't know doing the show. She didn't know what time.

939
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, that actually will work? Can you give me

940
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 2: the shot late? How can we do it? And so

941
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 2: that I started out that show, I said I had

942
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: a bit of a cold. I was shaking that my

943
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 2: voice the whole time was going to just disappear and

944
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: I would sound like a huge, a huge wimp. And

945
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 2: at the by the end of the show, by the way,

946
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: the voice was pretty much gone. And that night I

947
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 2: couldn't speak again. So that was the whole if you're wondering,

948
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: And for days at the anxiety level for day after

949
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 2: as I was just like shaking it home, like, oh

950
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 2: my god, I was so scared my voice.

951
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 8: Was gonna go.

952
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: But it went well enough they had me back. You know,

953
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: here we are okay. So I want to give. So,

954
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: first of all, that's great. The doctor was there and

955
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: she was willing to do this. Did your mom think

956
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: on the spot about the idea of opera singers and

957
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: how they were treated? I actually am curious house. I mean,

958
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: that's a brilliant idea that she would have had, because

959
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: we make a living based on being able to talk.

960
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't even have thought. I mean, first of all,

961
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: and you're in New York City, I know, Nashville. I

962
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: would have been totally in trouble because I can't imagine.

963
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 2: My mom loves you know, my mom was she was

964
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: in the near she was in La at the American

965
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: Ballet Theater, and so she loves classical music and she

966
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: has friends in the opera in New York and everything,

967
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: so she knows that world a bit. But it was

968
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 2: totally her idea, and I even thought about it. That's

969
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: Mom saving the day. Totally saved the day, and the doctor.

970
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: The doctor looked at me, she was like, she's like,

971
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 2: your vote you have. She actually said, if I tried

972
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 2: to push through without the steroid, you can do permanent

973
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: damage because you can create scar tissue because of all

974
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: the inflammation in your vocal box. So this was just

975
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 2: at all all the stars alive. But people ask, yeah,

976
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: my eleven day. I have never been nervous doing anything

977
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: in media in my life before or since.

978
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 3: That was the only.

979
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 2: Time and by far the biggest time I was ever nervous. Yes,

980
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: being behind the Golden EIB Mike when you know Rush

981
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 2: was having his six hundred and eighty stations or whatever

982
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 2: it was. But Clay, the whole time I've come back

983
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: from break, I was like, I can still talk. Okay,

984
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 2: we got one more segment. We got one more segment.

985
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: I told the team.

986
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 3: Ali, dude, Ali, you remember you were there.

987
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: So was Mikey just running behind the mic.

988
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 3: I do remember, and I remember meeting you that day. Buck,

989
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 3: I would have had no idea you were cool as

990
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:50,760
Speaker 3: a cucumber.

991
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: I was shaken like a leaf. I was shaking like

992
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: a leaf. So yeah, that was I mean, Clay, you're

993
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 2: the same. I can tell you the same thing. Even

994
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 2: with the first time I did TV, Like the first

995
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: time I was on cable news, I was like, I

996
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,879
Speaker 2: was cia baby, cool as a cucumber, Like this isn't

997
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 2: gonna phase me. This was when I was like, oh

998
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: my god, oh my god, Oh my god. So I

999
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: remember it trusts me eleven years ago in Mom, you

1000
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 2: are the greatest mom, but also a genius on the spot.

1001
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. Like even to think, okay,

1002
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: who would be able to treat this, who would be

1003
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: able to figure out a way to make this happen?

1004
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: Because this is always an issue for singers, right, I know.

1005
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: I think I came on the air and talked about

1006
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: the fact that I went to watch Adele and some

1007
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 1: of you were like, well, no, it was incredible, right,

1008
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: she was amazing in Caesar's but then she's had to

1009
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: cancel a ton of her performances because of vocal fold

1010
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: related issues. And obviously, when you are an incredible talent

1011
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 1: like that, something as simple as a cold can throw

1012
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: everything into an uproar. So I wouldn't have even thought

1013
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: about that. But credit to your mom, because you probably

1014
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: got how many doctors like that are there in the

1015
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: name ten.

1016
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 2: Veryigh that specialized that specialized in this, because most people

1017
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: would just say, look, you got a cold, like go

1018
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 2: home from war, like you know, it's just don't talk

1019
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,799
Speaker 2: as much as you don'tirely will fine, It's it's not

1020
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: a major medical issue unless you make a living and

1021
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 2: have a performance of some kind with your voice. But yeah,

1022
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 2: I like to tell people on such a vocal athlete

1023
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 2: that I had to take steroids performance enhancing drugs.

1024
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: For my So how long did it take for your

1025
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: voice to get back to normal after you took the

1026
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: steroid shot to be able to do the show on that.

1027
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,320
Speaker 8: First three days?

1028
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 3: Two to three days still of just like being shut down.

1029
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, horse, you know, sounded totally weird, but yeah,

1030
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 2: So when I met Ali and the team and Mike

1031
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: and Mike, Mike Mamone was there. Mike knew I was

1032
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: nervous as hell. But anyway, when I was there, they

1033
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: were there, and that was how it all went. Can

1034
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: I also do one more throwback? So that was the

1035
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: eleven year anniversary. We had the one thing. I think, Clay,

1036
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: you'll appreciate this because in the absolute you and I

1037
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: got to know each other the first time because of COVID,

1038
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 2: Because I was like, who's this sports guy who actually

1039
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: understands that masks are crazy and that we shouldn't shut

1040
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: all this stuff down. Prusa Mark who went to the

1041
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 2: Rangers game who knows sports, was like, you got to

1042
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: know this Clay guy. He's saying what you're saying. May April,

1043
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 2: May twenty twenty. We're talking about very very early on.

1044
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: But I was so frustrated about what was going on

1045
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: with the social media platforms at that time that I

1046
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 2: just straight up I went on a rant on Twitter

1047
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 2: about how it's never going to change. We need a

1048
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 2: billionaire who's conservative to step up and buy one of

1049
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 2: these things, because otherwise we're just toast and rush. This

1050
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: is June sixteen, twenty twenty. He read the whole thing

1051
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: on air. Listening to this play twenty Many.

1052
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 15: Of you might remember the former guest host on this program,

1053
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 15: Buck Sextead of the CIA. Buck now tweets a lot.

1054
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 15: Does he have his own show now? Or yeah he does?

1055
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 15: Wait wait, Buck has been on a tweet storm and

1056
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 15: had to put it in one of those one of

1057
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 15: those thread apps because there's so many tweets and he's

1058
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 15: ticked off at how conservative everything has just given up.

1059
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 15: Has just seated the country seated, Hollywood, seeded, music, seated,

1060
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,919
Speaker 15: television seated, the media seated.

1061
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 3: Everything.

1062
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 15: Doesn't understand it if one of the conservative millionaires out

1063
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 15: there has any stomach for saving their country from this mob,

1064
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 15: they should buy and flip a major media platform or

1065
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 15: fund a new one and make it an unsinkable aircraft

1066
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 15: carrier of true free speech.

1067
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: Clay Elon bought Twitter four years later, and I think

1068
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: changed the trajectory of the twenty twenty four election and

1069
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: online discourse as it exists. And you know, so it

1070
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 2: was a long time coming. And Rush saw too that

1071
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 2: with the Remember that was the height of the censorship

1072
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 2: on social media.

1073
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were just.

1074
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 2: Getting pummeled, shut down, locked, And isn't amazing now we're

1075
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 2: talking about COVID reckoning and we actually have a free

1076
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: we have and we have truth and we have rumble

1077
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 2: on these other platforms. But that was like the darkest

1078
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: June of twenty twenty, the darkest days of social media

1079
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 2: censorship in a lot of ways.

1080
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 3: Oh, I totally remember.

1081
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean that was when I was trying to argue

1082
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: for schools reopening and to play sports. And you would

1083
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: have thought that I was the craziest person on the planet, right,

1084
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just the idea that And I'm thankful that

1085
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: I lived in Tennessee and people like Ron DeSantis and

1086
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: a lot of you who live in Red States, your

1087
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: schools opened back up. My kids went back to school

1088
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: in August of twenty twenty. But I knew if we

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Speaker 1: could play sports, it would be a huge signpost for

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Speaker 1: returning to cultural normalcy. And at that point in time,

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Speaker 1: it's not just that Elon. You're right, it's not just

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Speaker 1: that Elon bought Twitter. It's that suddenly he's awoken Mark Zuckerberg,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, other people who weren't as brave to lead

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Speaker 1: the charge, but they've at least been willing to follow

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Speaker 1: the charge up the hill to try to put back

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Speaker 1: in play some measure of free speech principles in the

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Speaker 1: online marketplace.

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Speaker 2: Right did Elon flipping X as I thought at the time,

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Speaker 2: right when he was doing it, And you were the

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Speaker 2: first one who ever told me that was even under consideration.

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Speaker 2: I remember you said, Hey, I think Elon because of

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Speaker 2: the Babylon b account freeze, and because he knows Seth Dylon,

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Speaker 2: Seth Dylan, Right, yeah, Seth Dylan, and you know that

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Speaker 2: this may happen, which at the time seemed like, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, like that's sure enough. Forty three billion dollars later,

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Speaker 2: Elon flips it around. But that also puts downstream pressure

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Speaker 2: on the other social media platforms not to be fair,

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Speaker 2: and I know they're not, and Facebook is still a

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Speaker 2: wasteland in a lot of ways for free speech, but

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Speaker 2: to be less oppressive because they don't want to lose

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Speaker 2: all market share to for half the country. So and

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Speaker 2: then that was an enormously important shift that we should

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Speaker 2: never lose sight of because Clay, I mean, we were

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Speaker 2: talking about this stuff, and you and I were discussing

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Speaker 2: masks in twenty twenty. It it was like it was

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Speaker 2: like the end times for free spee. It really was.

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Speaker 3: Couldn't say stuff about the election in that year. By

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Speaker 3: the end of the year, Trump.

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Speaker 2: Got kicked off of social media, couldn't say masks don't work.

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Speaker 2: These these websites attacking us. And you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you had this too. I had the New York Times

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Speaker 2: attack me. I had what's that fact what's the fact check?

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Speaker 3: Dot of org? With all these organs, you know some

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Speaker 3: of those even still exist.

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Speaker 1: But yes, there was an entire cottage industry of places

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Speaker 1: designed to attack anyone who had the goal to speak

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Speaker 1: out in any way against COVID lockdowns or COVID shots

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Speaker 1: or asking.

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Speaker 3: They came after you and the.

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Speaker 2: People who were attacked, and I know a lot of

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Speaker 2: you and your personal capacities felt the same thing we felt.

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Speaker 2: What we dealt with it publicly and in a professional

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Speaker 2: setting on radio and on TV. But we were right

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Speaker 2: about everything. So I feel good about that. Remember that.

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Speaker 2: Don't ever let that go. When it really counted.

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Speaker 3: Where were you?

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Speaker 2: And I could look at Clay and Clay can look

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Speaker 2: at me. We know where we were on the COVID stuff,

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Speaker 2: and I know a lot of you it's the same deal.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I think the accountability still matters. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to the gun range tomorrow. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: be training with my with my brother, and we've got

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Speaker 2: a whole slew of firearms that we're going to be

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Speaker 2: putting ourselves through our paces with. And let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: you know, we both carry. And if you're going to

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Speaker 2: to defend yourself, it is ruinously expensive, even if you

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Speaker 2: which they could do even if you're on the right

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Speaker 12: Sometimes all you can do is laugh, and they do

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Speaker 12: a lot of it with the Sunday Hey join Clay

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Speaker 12: and Buck as they laugh it up in the Clay

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Speaker 12: and Buck podcast feed on the iHeartRadio app or wherever

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