1 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back in another edition of 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: the Late Kick Extra podcast Thursday morning, June tenth, Year 3 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: of Our Lord twenty twenty one. I'm Josh Fade, happy 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: to have you with me. It signed a too radio 5 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: ish on the entrance. How about this instead? Hey, time 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: to do another podcast? And I got to slow it 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: down this week. You know, I don't always go back 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: and listen to our recordings, but I was driving around 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: Nashville the other day, Tuesday afternoon, and I go back 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: and listen to the podcast. And you know how, especially 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: if some of you listen on well pretty much all 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: the platforms, you have that option where you can speed 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: it up time and a half time and three quarter 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: two time. And I do that with a lot of 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: podcasts because people talk slow enough where you can listen 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: to them in two time speed and you listen to 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: a thirty minute pod in fifteen minutes. Well, I thought 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I had that option though, I thought I had that 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 1: setting on as I started the Late Cack pod from Tuesday, 20 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: and I didn't. I signed a like I was hopped 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: up on cocaine. There's no other way to put that. 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: I've never done cocaine in my life. But if I had, 23 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: it would probably sound very similar to that. I sounded 24 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: like an auctioneer that just went for thirty minutes. I 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: could not believe the tempo, and I think what I 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: nailed it down to is Number One, you had some 27 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: good questions. Number Two. I downed an entire can of 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: that cold brew two hundred and fifty milligrams right before 29 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: I started recording, and it was just go time, and 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: I had no concept of how fast I was talking. 31 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to take a little bit 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: more measured approach. And I know some of you want 33 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: the podcast to go longer because you listen to it 34 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: throughout your day and you want it to make your 35 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: day go by quicker. I really think we did about 36 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: an hour and a half of a show the other day, 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: but it was in twenty nine minutes. So let's try 38 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: and stretch things out just a little bit more here, 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more calm, and we'll take a more 40 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: measured approach this morning. But we got some good questions. 41 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: We always do. If you want to submit one, Josh 42 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: paid seven zero six at gmail dot com or follow 43 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: me on Twitter, follow me on Instagram, and you can 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: also submit dms there at Late Kick, Josh, we have 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: mysteriously emerged on a third platform, but I'm not going 46 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: to publicize it yet because we don't have it looking 47 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: the way we want to yet. If you can fill 48 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: in the gaps there, you could probably go find it. 49 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: But more on that later. All right, here is where 50 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: we're going to start this morning. Hunter is going to 51 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: be the actual person who submitted the question, but this 52 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: really could be a number of you, because a number 53 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: of you have asked a version of this. All right, 54 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: take it away, Hunter, He says, I've heard you say 55 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: on a few shows and podcasts lately, when disagreeing with 56 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: someone about playoff expansion, you just see the sport differently 57 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: than that person. I'm curious what does that mean exactly. 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: I did a couple of radio hits yesterday where I 59 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: said this too, and I had some people dm me. 60 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I did a hit in South Dakota yesterday. That's a first. 61 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: I've done Hawaii, but I have not done South Dakota. 62 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: But you guys have hit me up periodically, not in 63 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: a condescending tone. Some of you feel insulted, and I 64 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: don't mean for it to sound that way, but you ask, 65 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: what do you mean? You see the sport differently than us. Well, 66 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: here's what I'm not saying, as I so often do, 67 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to start by telling you what I'm not saying. 68 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I have some superior viewpoint of the sport. 69 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: I got the same one the rest of you do, 70 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: or I have the same opportunity I guess to observe 71 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the sport as the rest of you do. What I 72 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: mean is I feel a little bit different. I feel 73 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: like I view it from a little bit different angle 74 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: than some people. I don't mean on a Saturday, you 75 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: and I are watching the same game. We you know, 76 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: theoretically at least we're seeing the same thing. We see 77 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: the same final twenty seven to twenty score. I'm not 78 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: talking about that the sport as a whole. What are 79 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: we looking at? It's the difference in you and I 80 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: living in the same country. But maybe you vote one way, 81 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: I vote the other way. We just see the world differently, 82 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: So I guess that's the best way. But to give 83 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: you an on the ground example, when I'm arguing about playoff, 84 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: you'll notice more and more I just don't do it. 85 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: I said everything I could ever want to say about 86 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: the playoff to lead off the Tuesday podcast. We have 87 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: talked about this, Okay, So you and I no different 88 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: than if we go hang out at a barbecue joint 89 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: for lunch. We have talked about this, we have ironed 90 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: it out, and we have arrived at our philosophical conclusions. 91 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: And there is a ninety nine point nine percent chance 92 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: my mind's not changing. And if you disagree with me 93 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: and you've spoken your mind, you've heard my viewpoint and 94 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: it has really not affected your viewpoint ninety nine percent 95 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: of the time, you're not changing your thought process either. 96 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: Does that mean that I love the sport and you 97 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: hate the sport? Not necessarily think there are a ton 98 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: of people out there who are every bit as passionate 99 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: about this sport as me, who are polar opposite, just 100 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: diametrically opposed in terms of what they think the best 101 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: playoff format is. I'm okay with that. I mean, I'm 102 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: not happy about it, but I'm okay with it. But 103 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: when I say I view the sport differently than you do, basically, 104 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: that is an unending button, that's a the end, that's 105 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: an exit sign to that conversation. Because we could either 106 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: do one of two things. We could sit there and 107 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: just keep banging our heads against a wall, or we 108 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: could realize, hey, I guess we just see things differently. 109 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Shake hands, let's walk away. See you Saturday at the tailgate. 110 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: And that's kind of the way that I've found myself 111 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: exiting a lot of these conversations. I was doing radio 112 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: yesterday and one of the hosts that I was talking 113 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: to was just so steadfast in their denial that four 114 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: was better than eight or that eight was better than twelve, 115 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: and I just disagree. And I've stated a million times. 116 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go back down this rabbit hole. 117 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I've stated a million times. I simply believe that a 118 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: postseason should be about excellence, not inclusion. I do not 119 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: care about guaranteed representation for all conferences. I could not 120 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: care less whether the G five as a collective has 121 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: a guaranteed spot at the table. I think the concept 122 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 1: of autobids is dumb, but I know what the counter is. 123 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: The counter is, well, Josh, don't you want to keep 124 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: the whole country invested? Of course I do. I just 125 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: differ in what I think the answer to that is. 126 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: What I think the answer is is holding athletic departments accountable. 127 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm of the belief that there are many, many, many 128 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: more programs out there capable of competing year in and 129 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 1: year out that don't write Now, I don't believe this 130 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: sport and the playoff and the structure of college football 131 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: is built for only four or five programs to succeed. 132 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: That's ludicrous. It is absolutely ludicrous. When we nail down 133 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: what wins and what it takes to whim, you're not 134 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: going to tell me, ever, with honesty in your eyes, 135 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: that only Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Oklahoma have that. 136 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Do you know how I know that? By the way, 137 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: the way I know it is LSU went from having 138 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: never made the Playoff before period in program history to 139 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: not only making it but winning it in twenty nineteen. 140 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: What did they have? They had the right combination of stuff. Now, 141 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: what they didn't have is sustainability, and I think that 142 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: is one of the big questions about LSU this year. 143 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: But LSU came out of nowhere and just all of 144 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: a sudden one one in twenty nineteen. So it's obvious 145 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the door wasn't a lot. It's not that they found 146 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: some magic key. No, there's a way in. But to 147 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: zoom it out from LSU and to talk bigger picture, 148 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: Not enough good hires are made in college football. Not 149 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: enough due diligence is being done. I think we may 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: look back on this period of college football thirty years 151 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: from now and look at some of the hires that 152 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: were made. Maybe some of you already think this way, 153 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: and you just scratch your head and you say, I 154 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: cannot believe filling the blank University hired filling the blank coach. 155 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: Look at how long it set them back in the 156 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things. Filling the blank University had an opportunity, 157 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 1: They hired the wrong guy. They were in the wilderness 158 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: for twenty plus years. Can you imagine if we could 159 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: hit the rewind button and let Tennessee have a do over. 160 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: When they moved on from Phil Filmer, what if they 161 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: would have made the right higher What if they would 162 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 1: have nailed that. When Texas made the decision to move 163 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: on from Mac Brown, what if they would have nailed that. 164 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: I mean, these are programs with every discernible advantage that 165 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: other programs have. They should have that, especially Texas, but 166 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: I argue even Tennessee should have that they made poor hires. 167 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: The system did not hold them down. The system is 168 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: not holding them down. Now they have held themselves down. 169 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: They have cut their own legs out from under them. 170 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: So how does this tie into the playoffs? Well, what 171 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about is I'm looking around and I'm seeing 172 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: a bunch of very very poor collective decisions being made 173 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: in the hiring process, and then programs paid the price 174 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: with a very bad on field product. But then, instead 175 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: of taking personal responsibility, a lot of these ads see 176 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: a convenient exit door over here, or you know, they 177 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: think that instead of looking at the pile of crap 178 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: in their left hand being their hiring and their decisions, 179 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: they can just snap their fingers. They can wave a 180 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: magic wand over here in their right hand and count 181 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: on a lot of you to be gullible seals and 182 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: just ooh ooh ooh, And you look over at the 183 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: magic wand and they say, look, look, look off, expansion opportunity, 184 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: this is what we need here, here's what it'll be 185 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: fair And all the while the pilo crap is still 186 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: in the other hand, And that's reality, that's what it is. 187 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: But it's a lot easier to sell the public on 188 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: the idea that the system is holding college football down 189 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: rather than a bunch of very very poor decision making. 190 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: And I will say this before I move on, because 191 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: I have made my point. Hunter. If you want a 192 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: very very good kind of glimpse into the world of 193 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: how these decisions are made, I'm going to talk about 194 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: something tonight on Lake Kick Live that is not about 195 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: the playoff, but it is about how the hiring process 196 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: and firing process works. I when I was a kid 197 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: growing up, used to always believe that there was something 198 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: mythical about an ad and about the athletic department and 199 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: the way that these decisions are made. And I thought 200 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: that these people just thought on such a higher intellectual level, 201 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: and I thought that they had forgotten more about having 202 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: knowledge of college football than I'll ever understand. And these 203 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: people are just speaking a language I could never understand. 204 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: They're not Some of them are totally ignorant when it 205 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: comes to this process. You would be stunned at the 206 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: power a newspaper article in the local paper has on 207 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: influencing these people in the real world. In the big 208 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: boy decision making world, nothing the media is saying about 209 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: your coach should ever be impacting your decision, because you 210 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 1: have your own closed off principles and values and observational techniques, 211 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: and you have full wherewith all the knowledge of the 212 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: inner workings that should never impact you, but yet it 213 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: does all the time, and at least to poor decisions. 214 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: And so I'm going to talk about that a little 215 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: bit tonight. But yeah, Hunter, so in a roundabout way 216 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: that lasted like eight minutes. That's what I mean when 217 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: I say I see it maybe a little bit differently 218 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: than some other people. Kyle is up next. He said, 219 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: let's say BAMA doesn't win the SEC this year. If 220 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: you looked into a crystal ball and you saw the 221 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: winner in December, how many teams from the conference would 222 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: not shock you to be holding the trophy? Good question, Kyle, 223 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: And this would be what a turn of events this 224 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: would be. I mean, this would open a lot of doors. 225 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: So let's say Bama's not going to win it all right, Well, 226 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: that means by default we're opening up the Western door. 227 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: So Texas, A and M obviously would not shock me. 228 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: LU would not shock me. Ole miss is my third 229 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 1: team there. That would not shock me. It would shock 230 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 1: me a little bit if Mississippi State, Auburn or Arkansas 231 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: were there. I guess that's as close as I would 232 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: come to being shocked. I don't use the word shocked 233 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: a lot, but yeah, So those are the teams from 234 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: the West. Obviously, Vanderbilt in the East would shock me. 235 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: South Carolina would shock me. Tennessee would shock me. Florida 236 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: would not, Georgia would not. Missouri and Kentucky they would 237 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: very much surprise me, but I'm not going to go 238 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: as far as to say they would shock me. But 239 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: if they ran up against I don't know how it 240 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: would have to be someone other than Alabama. There is 241 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: no world where I see Missouri or Kentucky beating Alabama 242 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. But maybe if Alabama has this terrible luck 243 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: with injury sort of year and some team limps out 244 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: of the West as opposed to surging out of the West, 245 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: and it's just one of those weird years where you 246 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: have an abnormally non elite matchup of powers in Atlanta, 247 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: then I guess Missouri or Kentucky theoretically could pull it off. 248 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: But I think even that would probably shock me. So yeah, 249 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: I think the only ones that would not shock me 250 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: or Georgia, Florida, lsu A, and m Ole miss because 251 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: of the offensive firepower. It would not shock me if 252 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: they were able to pull that off. Rolling on here, 253 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: Mark is next up. He said, what are your current 254 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: top five recruiting programs? Mark, This is no particular order. 255 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: Let's Gobama. Well, it is an order because that's the 256 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: best right now, Ohio State, LSU. Now we've gotten out 257 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: of order. Possibly Georgia. I think I'm gonna put Clems 258 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: in here. But if you look at the rankings, Clemson's 259 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: probably not recruited at a perennial top five level for 260 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: the past five years combined. What I think they do 261 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: is they do not take as many kids because they 262 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: normally don't have as much room. But also, I think 263 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: if you look at that average star rating, they hit 264 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: at an insanely high rate. There's not a ton of 265 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: attrition there. I think this past year, maybe notwithstanding, there's 266 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: not a ton of attrition there. They sent a lot 267 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: of kiss to the draft. So I think offensive line 268 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: is what I'd love to see them recruit a lot better. 269 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't think any Clemson fan listening disagrees with that. 270 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,599 Speaker 1: But if not them, Oregan's up there, Texas A and 271 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: M's up there. You know, to be honest, if we 272 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,839 Speaker 1: were doing a projection next five years Texas, A and 273 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: M is going to be in here. They're gonna be 274 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: one of the five best. I don't know at the 275 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: expense of which other program we got to knock out 276 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: that A and M is going to be in there 277 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: all right on what we move and full disclosure, I 278 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: have been sipping onto one of those two hundred and 279 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: fifty milligram caffeine cans as I record, So it's possible 280 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: that I'm talking too fast again. I don't have anybody here. 281 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: It's just me alone. Lance is producing this week while 282 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Jordan's on vacation. Now, if Lance were sitting in front 283 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: of me behind a glass wall, he'd be able to 284 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: say speed it up, slow it down. But there's no 285 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: one here right now. I'm literally talking into foam padding, 286 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: or as we call it, noise cancelation, and the foam 287 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: looks the same way the foam always has. So I 288 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: hope that everyone is keeping up. Thought I'd never say 289 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: that in my life because I grew up where I 290 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: grew up. Let me tell you, I had the thickest 291 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: Southern accent you've ever heard in your life when I 292 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: was growing up, and there is footage that I have 293 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: on me personally. I have not made it public. Maybe 294 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: one day I will. I have to have long since 295 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: been established. I have to be financially secure. I cannot 296 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: have anyone able to hold this over my head. So 297 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: when that time comes, and believe me, we are not 298 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: there yet, I will release this for public consumption and 299 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,079 Speaker 1: it'll be stuff that is used in roasts for years 300 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: to come. But I say that to say, if you 301 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: would have ever told ten year old or fifteen year 302 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: old JP that one day he's gonna have to slow 303 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: down his delivery because people are unable to keep up, 304 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: that would have been mind blowing. Not for me necessarily, 305 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: I would have loved it, but for anyone who knew me, 306 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: they would have laughed you off the face of the 307 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: earth if you suggested that. But yet here we are 308 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: funny how life works. So I don't forget the name 309 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: on this question. You know who you are. Thank you 310 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: for your submission. In your opinion, what is the best 311 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: game day atmosphere that's not one of the obvious choices 312 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: like LSU or Ohio State or et cetera. I've spoken 313 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: about this before. It's South Carolina to me, Mississippi State's 314 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: up there too, but it's South Carolina. Now, before I continue, 315 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: you got to remember I covered football in the South, 316 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: and I've been outside the South a little bit. Like 317 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: I've been to the Rose Bowl, I've been to Clemson. 318 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: I've been to some of these places, but I have 319 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: not been to Michigan. I've not been to Penn State. 320 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Although Penn State wouldn't qualify here because they're not under 321 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,199 Speaker 1: the radar, but I have not been to a lot 322 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: of places. Before I get back to South Carolina, I've 323 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: got one in mind that I really think is going 324 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: to exceed expectation. If I'm able to make it to 325 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: the Iowa Iowa State game this year, I think that's 326 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: week two if I'm able to make it there. I've 327 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: always gotten the feeling, watching from a distance, watching down 328 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: in Georgia or Tennessee, that that place is insane. I 329 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: just don't think that the public understands the spectacle of 330 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: it because it's not in a huge media market. It's 331 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: not perennial top five teams facing off. You know, you 332 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: don't have your precious playoff ramifications on it all those 333 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: this year, maybe you will, But because of that there's 334 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: just not this white hot spotlight placed on it like 335 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: there would be Bama at LSU with everything on the line, 336 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: or TEXASOU and the Cotton Bowl. I think that atmosphere 337 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: probably very much over delivers, except for the locals up 338 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: there because they know what to expect. So TBD on 339 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: that one. I hope to make it up there this year. 340 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: But South Carolina is extremely underrated. South Carolina never gets 341 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: included on these lists. And I've been to Clemson games 342 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: in South Carolina games. I gotta be honest with you. 343 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: Let me just say it, like this South Carolina home 344 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: field atmosphere does not take a back seat in that state. 345 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Clemson probably gets more national a CLI because well, number one, 346 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: the program's been good for quite a while now nationally 347 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: good for quite a while. And number two, because they 348 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: have a novelty aspect to their game day atmosphere that 349 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: South Carolina doesn't have. If you watch on TV, I 350 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: mean the spectacle of those buses pulling up and touching 351 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: Howard's Rock and running down that hill, that's awesome. And 352 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: they release the balloons while they're at it, that's awesome. 353 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be in the stadium 354 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: to appreciate that, and so I think that that captures 355 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the imagination of a lot of people where And also 356 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: I think the end stadium color scheme probably does a 357 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: bigger favorite to Clemson. But I've been there. I mean 358 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I've been there for big games, and I've been at 359 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: South Carolina for big games. Carolina is just as insane. 360 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it doesn't come across on TV, or maybe you 361 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: haven't been able to see that atmosphere enough because they 362 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: haven't played in as many big games in your lifetime 363 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: or in just the last ten years. But I've been 364 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: up there, even when they're big underdogs until they get down, 365 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: it's insane, it's really really hostile, really crazy. So I'm 366 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: gonna say South Carolina Mississippi State. I've talked about that 367 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: one before, but again with the caveat that, I got 368 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: to get out more, get to more places. I've never 369 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: been to a game at Utah. I think it sounds 370 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: incredible on TV. The Iowa games I think sound incredible. 371 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: Blacksburg Virginia Tech. I don't think that one's off the radar. 372 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, people talk about that one, but I haven't 373 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: been up there. I've given thought to going up there 374 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: for the Friday night home opener against North Carolina. That's 375 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: not off the table yet. I've given thought to that. 376 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: So we'll see, because I'm going to be in Charlotte 377 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: for that Saturday game Clemson Georgia. So it's you know, 378 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: it's doable. It's doable. Not all on the road, but 379 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: it's doable. Speak of the devil. I didn't plan it 380 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: this way, but I'm gonna pretend I did. Tim asks 381 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: a question about that opener, that Clemson Georgia opener, and 382 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: I think it's one that we've already been asking. I 383 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of the country is going to be 384 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: asking it as that date creeps ever closer, and we'll 385 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: hit it right when we come back. So Tim asks 386 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: a very basic question, what happens if Georgia loses to Clemson? 387 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: What happens if Clemson loses to Georgia. I assume he's 388 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about the rest of the year postseason ramifications, all right, 389 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: So the first rule on our show is we do 390 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: not talk about playoff ramifications before it's time to talk 391 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: about them. I e. Week one of the college football season, 392 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: and we won't be when this game happens. I can 393 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: virtually assure you we won't be. There'll be like thirty 394 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: seven other places you can go to if you need that. 395 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: If you need to know where the Clemson's out of 396 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: the playoff after Week one, a lot of places are 397 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: going to have you covered. We'll just talk about the game. 398 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: Knowing how unpredictable this sport is week tweak. So I 399 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: think what we're asking here, though, is from a very 400 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: broad perspective, is it possible that one of these teams 401 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: is just either out of it or total back against 402 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: the wall mentality the rest of the year. Yeah, that's possible. 403 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: I think more possible for Clemson because, as we've talked 404 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: about before with G five teams, I am not a 405 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: believer that any G five team should be in the 406 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, not because they're not good enough in 407 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: and of themselves or that they couldn't compete in and 408 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: of themselves. That's never been my reason. My reason has 409 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: always been about the need or what should be the 410 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: requirement of earning a spot in the playoff or going 411 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: through a certain minimum baseline of challenge that your schedule presents. 412 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: And that's what I've always had against the idea that 413 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: a G five team makes the playoff because they're playing 414 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: a schedule that I think I could take a lot 415 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: of three loss teams from the SEC put in front 416 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: of them and have them go undefeed him. So it 417 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: doesn't prove anything in and of itself to me that 418 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: you go undefeed him. The counter, of course, from the 419 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: G five crowd has always been, well, how can you 420 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 1: know how good we are until you put us in 421 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: the playoff and let us prove it. I can't. I 422 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: can't know how good you are. It's a moot point 423 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. The second thing is, how 424 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: can we do anything better than go undefeated? We can 425 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: only play the teams in front of us. You're right, 426 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: that's why you should have your own playoff instead of 427 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: pretending the G five and P five world exists collectively. 428 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: And you get credit for beating Akron, but if Ohio 429 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: State schedule is Acron, they get criticized for it for 430 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: scheduling a cupcake. What can we at least try and 431 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 1: be intellectually honest a little bit? So anyway, circle back 432 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: to this with Clemson, just to prove that I'm consistent 433 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: in this and I'm not just a G five hater, 434 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: which I'm not the concept of them making a playoff 435 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:43,719 Speaker 1: with P five teams maybe a little bit different. But 436 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to prove I'm not a G five hater, I am 437 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: probably going to look at that Clemson schedule, and I'm 438 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: gonna look at it right now, not knowing how the 439 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: season pans out, And there is absolutely tim a chance 440 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: that I could look at it and say, if you 441 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: lose to Georgia, the rest of your schedule very much 442 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: resembles the strength that an AAC schedule would have, maybe 443 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 1: even weaker in some years than what an AAC team plays. 444 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: And I know it gets real tough to say acc AAC. 445 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: The AAC is the league where UCF, Cincinnati, Memphis Houston 446 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: plays in, and it's the league where Cincinnati went undefeated 447 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: last year and couldn't get in the playoff. Well, the 448 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: reason they couldn't is because they did not have the 449 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to prove that they belong. It's not their fault. 450 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: They could have won a million to nothing every week, 451 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: it would not have granted them the opportunity to hit 452 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,959 Speaker 1: that minimum baseline of struggle of challenge presented by their schedule. Well, 453 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: if we look at this Clemson schedule post Georgia, they 454 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: better hope the ACC is better than expected this year, 455 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: or I don't know that Clemson is going to have 456 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: big opportunities. Now here's the difference, and here's where you 457 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: guys are right when you talk about the privilege that 458 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: the Power five teams enjoy. If you were to tell 459 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: me it doesn't matter if Clemson wins in Week one, 460 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: if they run the table the rest of the way 461 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: and they win the ACC title, they will be in 462 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: the playoff, I would agree with you. I would agree 463 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: with you, or I would agree with the prediction. Now 464 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would be okay with the logic, 465 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: but again, we would have to see the rest of 466 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: the season play out. So if Clemson loses, that discussion 467 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: will be on the table. I'm gonna try and push 468 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: it later in the year, but that discussion would be 469 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: on the table. If Georgia loses, I'm not so sure 470 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: it does a whole lot because the question for them 471 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: is going to still remain the same. Can you win 472 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: the East? I think they will probably. Can you get 473 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: to Atlanta? They would if they win the East obviously, 474 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: and can you beat Alabama? Theoretically? And so if they 475 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: do all those things. I don't really think anyone's looking 476 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: back and saying, yeah, I know that you went eleven 477 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: and one and then you got to Atlanta, you beat Alabama, 478 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: but we got to hold this loss against you. If anything, 479 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: I think they could probably afford two losses if one 480 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: of them is competitive to Clemson and another one is 481 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Let's say Florida. Let's say 482 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: they got beat by Florida, but yet they still made 483 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: it to Atlanta and they beat Alabama, and the last 484 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: thing you saw of Georgia and their two loss resume 485 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: is of them beating Nick Saban in Alabama in Atlanta 486 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: and winning the SEC. They're not going to be kept out. So, 487 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: if anything, Georgia could lose Week one, maybe still have 488 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: some cushion and still have all of their objectives in 489 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 1: front of them. Next up is Hayden. Hayden's got kind 490 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: of a Big twelve question, But what's fun one? So here? 491 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: It is Ole Miss last season had a crazy offense 492 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: like a Big twelve team. I'm no Ole Miss fan, 493 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: but let's say you put that twenty twenty team in 494 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. How do you think that shakes out? 495 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: I think Ole Miss could have gotten to the Big 496 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: twelve title game and been ranked in the top twenty five. 497 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: I do agree they would have been a top twenty 498 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: five team. I also think that you may be surprised 499 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: at how much more equipped the Big twelve would have 500 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: been to handle them a little bit offensively than you realize. 501 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: I know, the talent level out there may be a 502 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: little bit different, but they understand and long ago learned 503 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: how to adapt defensively in the Big twelve. And so 504 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: I think in a lot of ways, I think Iowa 505 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: State would have been a lot more successful against Ole 506 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: Miss than Alabama was. Now. Iowa State would not have 507 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: dropped sixty two, but I don't think they would have 508 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: given up forty plus either, I really don't. I just 509 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: think they've long since been adapted to the Big twelve. 510 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: But here's the other thing. You have to remember. Big 511 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: twelve football is not what it was a decade ago. 512 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: This is not how all the offenses operate out there anymore. 513 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: I think it was Chris Hummer here at twenty four 514 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: seven that talked to Dave Randa, who's head coach at Baylor, 515 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: about a month ago, and had him go really in 516 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: depth on this now, I think the perception of Big 517 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: twelve football, You've got to make sure you calibrate that 518 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: with what your eyeballs are seeing today. Today's Big twelve 519 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: is much less wide open than the SEC is now. 520 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Imagine being put in a time capsule and frozen for 521 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: a decade and waking up and seeing that. I mean 522 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: imagine seeing Baylor, for example, or TCU or Texas Tech 523 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: being a lot more two back sets, and then you 524 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: turn on Alabama and they're five wide all over the 525 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: place and in four receivers into the first rounds of 526 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. What would you think had happened? You 527 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: think Nick Saban wasn't there anymore. You think that someone 528 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: from the Big twelve has taken a job in the SEC. 529 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: That's just not the way it's happened. It's evolved and 530 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: so ole miss. If you dropped him in the Big 531 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 1: Twelve last year, they would have had probably more success 532 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: in terms of a win loss record. But I also 533 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: think that the Big Twelve may have been a little 534 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: bit more suited to defend them than you think they 535 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: would have been. I ultimately think the Big Twelve would 536 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: have spat out the same conference champion. Corbin had a question. 537 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 1: I was on the fence about answering this one to 538 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to end up pushing it to next week 539 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: because it could be one of those answers that's four 540 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: minutes or fourteen minutes. I've done portions of this, but 541 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I've never done it in its entirety. I'll give you 542 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: the question, and then i'll tell you it's going to 543 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: come next week sometime, and I'll put it at the 544 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: end of the podcast, so if you're not interested, you 545 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: don't have to listen through it to get to the 546 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: good stuff. Corbin said, would you be able to give 547 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: a summary of your broadcasting career in the Late Kick 548 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,679 Speaker 1: Extra podcast or even in just an email reply? I 549 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: hear you often reference here and there or different places 550 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: you've been. I was just curious how you got into broadcasting, 551 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: where did you start, how did you get involved with 552 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: CBS in twenty four to seven, and how did you 553 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: get the platform you currently enjoyed. I'd be happy to 554 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: tell that story. I think it's really good for other 555 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: people to hear, especially anyone who aspires to be in 556 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: this business. However, again, it could go twenty minutes, so 557 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to put that. Let's say I'll put that 558 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: on the tail end of either the next Tuesday or 559 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: next Thursday Late Kick Extra, and we'll have fun. If 560 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: you're into that sort of thing. If you're not into 561 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: that sort of thing, you can tune out and we'll 562 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: all be good. As for now, I got to go 563 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: get ready to do a show tonight. So remember I 564 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: saw some of you pour in those five star review 565 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: over on the Apple Podcast review section. Keep those coming. 566 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: We're inching every closer to fifteen hundred there, which we 567 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: thought it would take like a decade to get to, 568 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: and it's going to take less than a year. It 569 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: looks like, thank you for that. And remember we're looking 570 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: to boost followers right now. Our main emphasis is followers 571 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: on Instagram, followers on Twitter. At Late Kick Josh imperative 572 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: for reasons that will make sense five years from now, 573 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: but right now it just sounds like I want more followers. 574 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: Well I do, but for reasons that are going to 575 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: benefit you and me. I have a little selfish stake here, 576 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: but it's going to benefit you too, you'll see in 577 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: the long run. So at Late Kick Josh, and also, 578 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: as I said, the marketing aspect of this when you 579 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: screenshot the fact that you're listening to the show, when 580 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 1: you screenshot the fact that you're watching the show, or 581 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: you just give it a good old fashioned shout out 582 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter, make sure you tag me in those you 583 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: put them on those Instagram stories, make sure you tag 584 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: me in those, because I like to share as many 585 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: of those as I can. That does better than us 586 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on commercial advertising or more. 587 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: It does way more for us than anything in our 588 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: wallet could ever do. So again, eternally grateful for Gott 589 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: to get out of here. Have yourselves a great rest 590 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: of your Thursday. For producer Lance, I'm Josh, Babe. This 591 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: has been the Late Kick Extra podcast. Take care, he 592 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: helpless