1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The roller Coaster addition, as we 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: take an in depth look back at the first game 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: of the Zach Taylor era, a wild roller coaster ride 5 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: with extreme peaks and valleys that ultimately ended with a 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: one point loss in Seattle. Coming up, you'll hear radio 7 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: replace from the game, locker room comments from players and coaches, 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: and Dave Lapham will join me for postgame analysis. Plus 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: in this week's fun Facts Conversation, it's a rare one 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: on one chat with Bengals President Mike Brown. Mike doesn't 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: do many interviews, but once or twice a year he's 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: kind enough to sit down and share stories from his 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: amazing life in football. I always get great feedback from 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: listeners when we record a trip down memory Lane, and 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy our latest conversation. All of that 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: is straight ahead, but first, here's equipped reminder that you 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing on iTunes, Stitcher, 19 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: Google Play, Spotify, or pod Bean. It's the greatest invention 20 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: since touch id. Touch id is the fingerprint recognition system 21 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: that allows users to unlock Apple devices like iPhones and 22 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: make purchases on the iTunes store. So rather than having 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: to type in a password, you just use your fingerprint. 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 1: So if you're paranoid about having your password stolen or 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: just lazy and like to turn things on with a 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: touch of your fingertip, touch ID is a great invention. 27 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: Let's get to football. From the day Zach Taylor was hired, 28 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Bengals fans have been frothing at the mouth over what 29 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: his offense might mean for Joe Mixon. After all, the 30 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: Rams Todd Gurley averaged nearly two thousand total yards and 31 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: twenty touchdowns in the two seasons that Zach was on 32 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: the LA coaching staff. But on Sunday in Seattle, Mixon 33 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: barely got the ball before leaving the game with a 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: twisted ankle in the third quarter. Cincinnati's first seven plays 35 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: of the season were passes, and Andy Dalton threw the 36 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: ball sixteen times in the first quarter. Tyler Eifert says 37 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: Seattle's defense forced them to Yeah, I mean if you 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: look at what they were doing, they were, you know, 39 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: doing things to take away the Ronzo. Yeah, you end 40 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: up passing the ball and we did it effectively. So 41 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: we're just playing off what they were doing. So that's 42 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: what the game dictated. By and large. It worked at 43 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: least until the red zone. The Bengals second drive of 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: the game lasted thirteen plays in seven and a half minutes, 45 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: but stalled after reaching the sixteen yard line. It'll be 46 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: a thirty nine yard attempt from the left hash mark 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: for Randy Bullock Park Harris will snap, Kevin Hubert will 48 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: holl the snap, the put down, the swing of the 49 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: right leg, and Bullocks kick is good. The Bengals took 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: a three nothing lead into the second quarter, and in 51 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: the first half. Their defense gave Russell Wilson fitz with 52 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: a variety of looks, including five defensive linemen. Shot Penny 53 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: in at running back for Seattle, Wilson fakes to him 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: being chased by Sam Hubbard. Russell Wilson nice sacked right 55 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: back at the forty one yard line. Second sack for 56 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals. Carlos Dunlap had the first, Sam Hubbard with 57 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: the second for a nine yard loss. Well he was outstanding. 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's run defense was as impressive as the pass rush 59 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: Seattle averaged an NFL best one hundred and sixty yards 60 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: on the ground last year, but only Mustard seventy two 61 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: in Week one. Here's Hubbard. Yeah, we wanted to stop 62 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the run, and defensively we're really stout and stop the 63 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: run made him kind of one dimensional number one Russian 64 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: attack in the NFL. Under however, many yards we held 65 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: him too. I think it was just great execution. But 66 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, it comes down to a few plays, and 67 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: that's how it is in the NFL. The bengals first 68 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: big mistake came on special teams, a fumbled punt by 69 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: Alex Ericson that gave Seattle the ball in Bengals territory. 70 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: It didn't immediately lead to a score, but it helped 71 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: flip field position and the Seahawks soon took the lead. 72 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: Wilson in the shotgun at the six hands it off 73 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: to Carson, touchdown Seahawks. The extra point gave Seattle a 74 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: seven three lead. It lasted all of three plays. The 75 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: Bengals have it first and ten at the Seattle thirty 76 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: three yard line, leave a hand at tu Bernardi pitches 77 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 1: it back to Down, guns it down the far sideline, 78 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: but by John Rouse breaks the tackle. At the five 79 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: and scores a Bengals touchdown, a thirty three yard Fleet 80 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Flicker touchdown to John Ross. How about that? John Ross 81 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: finished with seven catches for one hundred and fifty eight yards. 82 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: His previous career highs had been three catches and fifty 83 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: two yards. Tyler Eifford says, it was only a matter 84 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: of time. It wasn't surprising, you know, to the guy's 85 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: locker room, because we watch him every day. Just the 86 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: way he runs. He's extremely talented, Like I mean, you 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: can't even really describe it. So it was just a 88 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: matter of time before he put it all together. And 89 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: he did today and he used to continue to do 90 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: that for us to play well. The Bengals had a 91 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: ten seven lead and their defense was dominating. With one 92 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: forty four left and a half, Seattle had not had 93 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 1: a twenty yard play, but that changed when Russell Wilson 94 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: hit rookie DK Metcalf for forty two yards down to 95 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: the bengals thirteen yard line. Metcalf is the genetic freak 96 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: whose shirtless photo before the draft went viral. As somebody 97 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: put it, his abs have abs. A few plays after 98 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: his catch, Seattle was back in front fifty nine seconds 99 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: left and a half, third down and seven at the 100 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: Bengals ten yard line for the Seahawks, looking for a 101 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: go ahead score. Two receivers to each side of the formation. 102 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: Wilson drops back to throw, checks it down to a 103 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: running back Carson, and he breaks several tackles and runs 104 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: it to the pylon. It's a Seattle touchdown. Dray Kirkpatrick 105 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: and Jesse Bates were in position to stop Carson short 106 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: of a first down, but they failed in Seattle led 107 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: fourteen ten. With fifty two seconds left in the half, 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals elected to be aggressive on offense and at 109 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: least try to get a field goal, not exactly a 110 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Marvin Esque approach. With twenty seconds left and a half, 111 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: John Ross dropped a pass that easily would have put 112 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: them in field goal range. In fact, it might have 113 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: gone for a long score since two defenders ran into 114 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: each other and toppled like bowling pins. But on the 115 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: very next play, Ross made up for his drop. Seen 116 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: seconds left and a half, the Bengals still need at 117 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: least twenty yards. Dalton back to throw under pressure. He's 118 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: gonna fling it deep down. Feel ball. It is caught. 119 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: I half. The Tens touchdown Bengals as John Roy reached up, 120 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: made a two handed grab and ran it in for 121 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: a fifty five yard touchdown with seven seconds left in 122 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: the half. And he said, here's how I'm gonna answer. 123 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna drop the easy one, and I'm gonna make 124 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: a great play on the ball where the defenders in 125 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: pretty good shape. I'm gonna make a nice leaping catch 126 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: and then make the last guy miss. It gave the 127 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: Bengals a seventeen fourteen halftime lead, and it gave Ross 128 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: the breakout performance that he and we have been waiting 129 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: for because his coaching staff having confidence in you, given 130 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: you more confidence in yourself without a doubt, without a doubt. 131 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: I think that's what a lot of players lack sometimes, 132 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: you know, And I didn't. I think they like me. 133 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: I can honestly say it now. I lost confidence in 134 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: myself last few years, and you know, now I come 135 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: in with a different mentality, and you know, I just 136 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: kind of go out there and continue to believe in myself. 137 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: It's been last year and you dropped that pass. Would 138 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you have found the bench instead of being in there 139 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: to catch a touchdown pass? The next play most definitely, honestly, 140 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean I can honestly say that now. Um, you 141 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: know without a doubt. You guys seen it, you know, 142 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: I could you just tell I can run my ROLESE 143 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: is different when I lose confidence myself, you know, it's 144 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: just it was just it's completely different now it might fee. 145 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: After a big play on offense to end the first half, 146 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the Bengals made a big play on defense to begin 147 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: the second. Seattle begins first and ten, ball on the 148 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: left hash at the twenty five yard line. Russell Wilson 149 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: with a fake handoff, now passes to the running back 150 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: that he faked two that's Carson, and Carson draft bodies forward. 151 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: The ball comes out. The Bengals appear to have it. 152 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Trey Kirkpatrick has the football and yes it's a cencinive 153 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: recovery at the twenty eight yard line. Huge play right there. 154 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: It was the Bengals only take away of the day 155 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and they quickly drove to the Seattle twelve. We got 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: some light rain falling now here in Seattle. With thirteen 157 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: thirty five left in the third quarter, second down in 158 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: twelve as samaj p Rhine checks in, oh Dalton had 159 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: the ball slip out of his hand trying to throw 160 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: a screen and it's intercepted by defensive tackle Al Woods. 161 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if this light rains had anything to 162 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: do with it, but the Bengals turn it over in 163 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: the red zone. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. That was ruled a fumble, 164 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: not an interception. And it was the first of three 165 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: straight drives in the third quarter where the Bengals could 166 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: have scored and didn't. On their next drive, Randy Bullock 167 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: missed a forty five yard field goal, and on the 168 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: drive after that, the Bengals went for it on fourth 169 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: and one in Seattle territory and got stuffed on a 170 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: running play. They were piling up yards but not points. 171 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: Here's Tyler Eiffort throughout the game. You know, I felt 172 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: like we were we were doing a lot of really 173 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: good things. But you know, when the game's over, it's 174 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: not how many yards you gained, it's how many points 175 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: are on the board. The Bengals led seventeen fourteen going 176 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: to the final quarter. To that point, Russell Wilson had 177 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: not thrown a single pass to his top target, Tyler Lockett. 178 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: That changed on the first play of the fourth quarter, 179 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: tight end Bannett goes in motion four Seattle shotgun snap 180 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: in a high one caught by Wilson, rolls out to 181 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the right, looks back to the left. Was it deep 182 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: down the middle of the field that has caught at 183 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: the seven? No one, I'm running it in for the score? 184 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: Is Tyler Lockett? How many times have we seen now? 185 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett? First in twenty That forty four yard grab 186 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: was Lockett's only catch and gave Seattle at twenty one 187 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: seventeen lead. The Bengals answered with a thirteen play drive 188 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: that chewed up nearly eight minutes, but after having first 189 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: in goal at the four yard line, holding penalty in 190 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: a sack forced the Bengals to settle for a Bullock 191 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: field goal that pulled Cincinnati within one. It was the 192 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: third time in three tries that the Bengals drove into 193 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: the red zone and failed to score a touchdown. Here's 194 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, A couple opportunities we were down there and 195 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: we weren't able to get done on the unfortunate fumble 196 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: on them, ball slipping out of my hand. You know, 197 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: we had an opportunity there. And then you know in 198 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter when we were down there, we had 199 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: to settle for the field goal. So you can look 200 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: at those things right there and say, man, if we 201 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: can just get one touchdown, that changes the game. The 202 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: Bengals defense forced to three and out. There's sixth of 203 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: the game to get the offense the ball back, and 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: with three and a half minutes to go, Zach Taylor 205 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: faced a tough decision go for it on fourth and 206 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: seven at his own forty four or punt pin the 207 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: Seahawks deep in their own territory and try to get 208 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: one more three and out on defense. Zach chose to punt, 209 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: and Seattle was able to pick up a fir down 210 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,479 Speaker 1: with three straight running plays to basically put the game away. 211 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: The final score twenty one twenty Seattle. Here are Tyler Eiffert, 212 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, and Andy Dalton on dominating the stats but 213 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: losing on the scoreboard. I thought we went out there 214 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: and executed the game, playing pretty well, and we, you know, 215 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball played extremely hard. U defense 216 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: came up with a lot of big plays, and you know, 217 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: just down there in the in the red zone, we 218 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: just got to find a way to to punch it in. 219 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: But um, you know, there's a lot of good things 220 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: to take away from the game. Obviously disappointed that we 221 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: didn't find a way to get it done. That's that's 222 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: what good teams need to do, is find a way 223 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: in the end to find a way to win. Yeah, 224 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: I was really proud of the way we fought on 225 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And that's just life in 226 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: the NFL, you know, comes down to one or two 227 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: big plays, one or two points, one or two stops, 228 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I just think this is a right, you know, 229 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: place to build from. You know, you know, if we 230 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,599 Speaker 1: fight like that for sixteen games, we're gonna win a 231 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: lot of football games. And uh, all I could say 232 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: it's probably way we fought, but that's obviously disappointed loss. 233 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of things that we that 234 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: we did well to day. You know, it's one of 235 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: those it's unfortunate to leave this game with a loss 236 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: because we you know, we fought till the very end. 237 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: We you know, we played really hard on um, you know, 238 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: in all phases of the game. But um definitely something 239 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: to build on this close one and uh you know, 240 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: for us, we weren't able to make the one play 241 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: that was going to get us over the tough for today. 242 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's team is Zoe and One. The Bengals new 243 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: head coach spend three minutes with Dave Lapham in the 244 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: locker room after the game. I'm disappointed that we lost. 245 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: I'm not disappointed with where guys played. They fought their 246 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: tails off and really in all three phases, probably the 247 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: way they fought on the road, that kind of environment, adversity, 248 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: it's raining, it's filed, and really thought they responded well. 249 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: But you're right in the red zone. We didn't come 250 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: in there. We have enough points and um, when you're 251 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: on the road against a great team like this, who's 252 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: been one of the premier organizations over the last decade, 253 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: you gotta score the points that you got a chance 254 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: with and didn't get it done. The handling of the noise, 255 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 1: your silent count unbelievable. The poison you got them to 256 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: jump one time, never did it ever affect you, guys 257 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: in terms of lost yards and penalty. It was incredible 258 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: to watch that whole thing unfold. Proud of those guys. 259 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I really thought both sides up front, offensive defensive lines 260 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: play their tails off. That was a good front we 261 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: played against on offense, dave Ard Connie is a maniac, 262 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: and our guys just fought their tails off in defensive 263 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: We put pressure on the quarterback all night, came up 264 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: before sacks, secondaries, covering their tails off. Linebackers are playing great. 265 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: It's one of the games you expect. It's gonna be 266 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: a dirty game. You just gotta make a play to 267 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: win it. Unfortunately, we didn't get it done. I think 268 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett only made one play. It was a big play, 269 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: but I mean did a good job of minimizing him 270 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: other than that one big long ball. Yeah, when you 271 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: faced Russell Wilson and Tyler Lockett, they're gonna make a 272 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: big play at some point. I haven't seen many teams 273 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: shut that out yet, and so you just gonna be 274 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: able to weather that storm. And our guys did we 275 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: know there's gonna be diverseiting this game. They give up 276 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: a play, we were still in a position to win 277 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: the game at the end, and proud of the way 278 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: that our guys responded. In the second quarter, they scored twice. 279 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: You come back and you scored two touchdowns in les 280 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: than two minutes. I mean, you score one time with 281 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: forty seven seconds another time, like a minute and a half. 282 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, boom boom the answer, and then when you 283 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: had to struggle, the defense would shut him down. No 284 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: points a lot, I'm thinking, man, both sides have each 285 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: other's back here. Yeah, I mean it was it was 286 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: just a well fought game and our guys never got down. 287 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: They would score and we'd go make a big play offense, 288 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: we get stopped, and our defense we go out there 289 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: and respond with a great play. And again that's just 290 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: that's what we expect all year from these guys. So 291 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: something to obviously a lot of things to build on here. 292 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what was what was your message to the 293 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: team in the locker room? Obviously you probably had some 294 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: despondent guys laying it on the line like they did. 295 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna win a lot of games if we fight 296 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: like that every week and to come on the road 297 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: and overcome adversity like we did. Couldn't be prouder of them, 298 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: and we're gonna win a lot of games playing football 299 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: like this. Honestly, I haven't seen Russell Wilson be as 300 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: kind of I'm not I'm not saying he was gunjab 301 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: but I'm saying disconcerted you know what I mean, he 302 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: was a little bit on his heels and you don't 303 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: usually see Russell Wilson like that. I you know, it's 304 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: I just thought our defensive a great job applying pressure. 305 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: And that's all we can ask of him. Five down lineman, coach, 306 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: that had him a little bit buffalo for a while. 307 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: You guys, game plan wise, you put it together big time. 308 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: I thought the five down lineman, I thought your screen 309 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: package offensive it was a big time. I'm really proud 310 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: of our coaching staff. They got these guys ready to 311 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: play and and we knew it was going to come 312 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: down to the last drive. Like I said, we didn't 313 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: get it done, but couldn't be prouder of the coaches 314 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: in all three phases of the plans they put together. 315 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Coach came literally within one play of you know, shutting 316 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: some people up and shocking a lot of people. And 317 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: I know that, and that's not the reason you play 318 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: the football games. You play the football games to win 319 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: football game. But man, like you said, the effort can't 320 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: be questioned. That's a great sign. That is, that's that's Unfortunately, 321 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: we wanted to be one of no and said I 322 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: win one, but we got a chance to come back 323 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: next we can redeem ourselves. The Bengals finished with four 324 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine yards of offense only two thirty 325 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: three four Seattle. That means they outgained the Seahawks by 326 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: one hundred ninety six yards and lost. The stat doctor 327 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Doctor Richard Winer tells me there have only been two 328 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: games in Bengals history where they outgained the opponent by 329 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: more than one hundred ninety six yards and lost. In 330 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: eighty seven, they outgained Houston by two seventy seven and lost, 331 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: and in seventy eight they outgained Oakland by two forty 332 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: seven and dropped one to the Raiders. Now time for 333 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: postgame analysis, and I started by conversation with lap by 334 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: talking about the statistical dominance in an l the NFL 335 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: can be heartbreaking, and this one was exactly that. You know, 336 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: if the games are decided by yards, it's a bloog, 337 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: but it's sided by points unfortunately, and the Bengals just 338 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: didn't make enough plays in the red zone. I mean, 339 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: they got there a few times and get stopped on 340 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Down's no points fumble ball because out of Andy Dalton's hands, 341 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: no points. You know, mister forty five yard field goal. 342 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: Those those are the kind of things that in a 343 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: one point game you just can't give opportunities away like that. 344 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: And you know, Wilson and Lockett, they're big play wall 345 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Over them only made one play, but it was a 346 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 1: huge play. I mean it's a touchdown pass to put 347 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: them in the lead for good. And you know, unfortunately 348 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: a mistakes made and they capitalize. So there are a 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of things to build on though. You know, I 350 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: like the way that the resiliency has showed. Offense defense 351 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: had each other's back. You know, the offense defense would 352 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: would allow Seattle score. Offense come right back in the 353 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: second sport and score twice, once in forty five seconds, 354 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: once in a little over a minute. I mean, it 355 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: was crazy, come right down the field with big plays 356 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: and score. And even when they scored the Locket's test 357 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: and they went right down the field again and settled 358 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: for field goal in the red zone, but they did 359 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: score points. So they would always respond. I liked that response. 360 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: When the offense had problems or special teams had problems 361 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: in the defense on a short field, they held it 362 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: to nothing. So you know, each unit's kind of supporting 363 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: each other and you can build something from that. But obviously, 364 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: you know, bitterly just pointing they had a really good 365 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: game plan. The five defensive lineman package cost some issues 366 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks, There's no question about it, and 367 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, you just wish that could have held on 368 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: and when a game would have shocked the NFL, that 369 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: would have shocked the NFL world for sure. Andy Dalton 370 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: completed thirty five passes. That's a career high. He threw 371 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: for more than four hundred yards for the first time 372 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: in his NFL career. But the running game wasn't there, 373 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: averaging about two yards per carry. Was that strictly Seattle's 374 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 1: defensive approach, I think, I think that's a big part 375 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: of it. And as a result of that, they really 376 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: took advantage from the screen game. You know, of the 377 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: four hundred yards, I'd say one hundred plus was probably 378 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: in the screen game, somewhere in that range. I'd say 379 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: at least one hundred. No GEO had thirty five or 380 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: whatever was on one screen, and I know there were 381 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: tight end screens or other screens. I feel pretty confidently 382 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: at least one hundred yards, so to me, you know, 383 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: it's a short pass, you get offensive lineman out in 384 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: front blocking. It's kind of a hybrid, you know, run 385 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: slash pass kind of thing. And I think it was 386 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 1: what they were doing to stop the run. They were 387 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: vulnerable the screen in the Bengals took big advantage of 388 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: him in that screen pass package. So that's something that 389 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: other teams are going to look at and Seattle's gonna 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: have to make adjustments on. But Seattle's gonna do what 391 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: they do. I don't think they're gonna worry about it. 392 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: They're still gonna play defense the way they play it. 393 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: But I was really impressed with Zach's game plan. I 394 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: was really impressed with a loose game plan on the 395 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: defensive side of things. And you know, guys played so hard. 396 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Carlos played hard. Sam Hubbard was a meniac out there. 397 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: His hair was on fire, he was all over the 398 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: football field. A lot of guys played tremendous effort. And 399 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 1: I think that's the thing as you look forward, the 400 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: effort that they gave today is gonna lead to a 401 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of wins for him. I mean, 402 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 1: if they go out there and play as hard as 403 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: they played on this football field today, they're gonna win games. 404 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: Ten tackles, two sacks for Sam Hubbard. Let's talk about 405 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: John Ross back in the city where he played his 406 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: college football. Seven catches, one hundred and fifty eight yards, 407 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: more than a hundred better than his previous career high 408 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: for yardage. It was the full John Ross experience rience. 409 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: He had a couple of drops, including one that would 410 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: have been a huge game, but he gives that. They 411 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: gives the Bengals that big play weapon that they were 412 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: seeking when they drafted him number nine overall. He ran 413 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: that shallow cross and a couple of Seahawks picked each 414 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: other off, and if he catches it, he may turn 415 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: it up field and score, if not definitely in field 416 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: goal range. But the very next play he comes back 417 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: and Indy Ross goes deep to him and he beats 418 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: the safety in a safety place at Portly, but John 419 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: Ross takes advantage of it they score a touchdown. So 420 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: I remember distinctly saying asking Zach Taylor at the end 421 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: of last week, you know what's the one thing that's 422 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: that's there's unconditionally you have to have in a football 423 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: player to play for Zach Taylor, He said, mental toughness. 424 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: So you know, John Ross shields some mental toughness. He 425 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: could have mult powdered, you know, groused about dropping that pass. 426 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: He didn't even came right back and scored. And then 427 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: from that drop pass on he just continued to show 428 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: confidence and build his game. So hopefully that's a good 429 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: sign of things to comb. It's pro football, they're getting paid. 430 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 1: There are no moral victories. But to come to Seattle 431 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: the first game of Zach Taylor's coaching tenure, I would 432 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 1: play the Seahawks for the most part and play them 433 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: to a one point game. I think the Bengals had 434 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: to come back with a lot of confidence from this. 435 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: Do you agree, I really do agree, And I was 436 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: duly impressed with how the offense and offensive line in 437 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: particular handled the silent snapcount. You know, when we were 438 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: doing radio together this week, I said, you know, I 439 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: think that Seattle they're gonna get Seattle once, and I 440 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna jump. They're not gonna have any 441 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: penalties out. They had none. They were clean, and they 442 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: did get Clowney to jump, although I think Tyler Boyd 443 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: it was a little bit a bit debatable, but I 444 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: was unbelievably impressed because it was a din in here. 445 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: You could look a look next to your teammate and 446 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: just see mine, you know, a mouth moving, no sound, 447 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: and guys handled it and handled it unbelievably well. So 448 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: I think that's another thing. They're not going to go 449 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: into loud a stadium than this on the road, and 450 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: they've got this under their belt. They worked on it 451 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: so hard, beginning a training camp and started in meeting rooms, 452 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: in the cafeteria, on the football field. That's all they 453 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: were doing because they know they were playing the Seattle 454 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Seahawks and the crowd noise out here, and it was 455 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: amazing what they got done. Up Next to the Bengals 456 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: the home opener as they host the forty nine ers 457 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: on Sunday at one o'clock, we want to remind you 458 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that you can hang out with lappin me and meet 459 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: Bengals players at our radio shows this week. On Wednesday 460 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: night from six to eight, we'll be at game on 461 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: a sports tavern on Chevy at Road for the Bengals 462 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Game Plan Show, and we expect to have Sam Hubbard 463 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: joining us for one hour. Then on Friday afternoon from 464 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: three to six, we'll be at Buffalo Wings and Rings 465 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: in Mason, just down the road from King's Island for 466 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: the Bengals pep Rally show. A player will join us 467 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: in the final hour and we usually know who it 468 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: is by Wednesday. Hope to see you on Wednesday or 469 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: Friday or both. Now time for this week's fun fact segment. 470 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: I've done several over the years with Bengals President Mike 471 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: Brown and always find our conversations really enjoyable. I think 472 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: you will too. Time for another round of fun facts 473 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: with Bengals President Mike Brown. Your father loved golf. As 474 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: far as I know, you never have really played. Why not? 475 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: I think golf skips generations. He used to did in 476 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: our family, my kids, Katie, he loves playing golf. Troy's 477 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: a good golfer. Paul. He played for a while and said, 478 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: no Moss. They used to torture him, Troy and Katie, 479 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: because I guess his swing was just right. He went 480 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,719 Speaker 1: on to other things. But it's a wonderful activity for 481 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: people in old age or middle age. It's especially good. 482 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: I wish for that reason that I had stayed with it. 483 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: I played when I was very young, but I'm probably 484 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: one of those guys who never broke a hundred or whatever, 485 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: and so I went onto other things. Mike, if my 486 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,239 Speaker 1: math is correct, you were ten years old when your 487 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: father became the head coach of the Cleveland Browns, and 488 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: for the next ten years, the Browns advanced to the 489 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: championship game of their league every single year. So between 490 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: the ages of ten and twenty, basically your team was 491 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: playing for a championship. Can you describe those years from 492 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: the perspective of somebody who was ten to twenty years old? 493 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: For me, it got to be the expected thing. Our 494 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: team was good, it was at the cutting edge. The 495 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: team had great players, ran off a wonderful record when 496 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: that I'm proud of to this day. And I think 497 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: back in those days and when the day came that 498 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: we lost in the championship game, I remember my high 499 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: school basketball coach telling me the next day that the 500 00:25:55,400 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: sun would come up and I should just bear up 501 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: under the disappointment. But those were great teams, great times, 502 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: great memories in your mind, And this is a difficult question. 503 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: What were your father's greatest qualities as a head coach? Oh, 504 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: he was one of those guys who could cut to 505 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the core of an issue faster than other people. He 506 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: just had a mind that worked that way, and he 507 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: was imaginative. It wasn't something that he wore you out with, 508 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: just why shouldn't we do it this way? And so 509 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: they did. And there are all sorts of examples, from 510 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: the face mask to the radio and the helmet to 511 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: well the draw play. That was always a favorite story 512 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: of mine. The Browns played a game and Donald Graham, 513 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback, ran into Marion Motley as he came back 514 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: to throw the ball. I think Motley ran the wrong 515 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: play and the ball popped out of Otto's hands and 516 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Marion looked up and snatched it, and then he looked 517 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: and saw an opening, and he ran through the opening. 518 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: And the next day my father with his coaching staff 519 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 1: looked at the play on the movies. That's how they 520 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: did it then and said, you know, I think this 521 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: might work as a regular play, and so they modified 522 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: at some and that's how the draw play came into 523 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 1: pro football. He could see things, make something out of it, 524 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,959 Speaker 1: and organize it so it worked. It was just a 525 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: gift he had. You have never pulled the plug quickly 526 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: on your coaches. Does that have anything to do with 527 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: the way things ended in Cleveland. Well, it does. I 528 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: experienced what that means to my father, and I'm sensitive 529 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: to it. These are human beings that put their lives 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: into this endeavor, and then when you go tell them 531 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: that it isn't working, that's hard on them. It's hard 532 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: on their families. It can be cruel. And if you 533 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: have to do it, fine, but don't do it anymore 534 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: often than necessary. One of the many things I enjoyed 535 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: during the season is Sunday morning breakfast on the day 536 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: of a road game. It's you, your good friend Jack Schiff, 537 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: usually Katie and Troy are there, and Dave Lapham, and 538 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: it has evolved into the Dave Lapham story hour. Do 539 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: you marvel at his storytelling as much as I do? 540 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: Why else do I go to breakfast at Dave? Is 541 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: wonderful and you're pretty good too. Don't down grade yourself, 542 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: but we go there and have a delightful time. It 543 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: is too bad they don't have a radio program. I 544 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: thought the same thing, because the conversation just flows. I'm 545 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: not sure all that would be suitable for the air, 546 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: but it's good times and I've always looked forward to that. 547 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: We're doing fun facts with Mike Brown. Over the years, 548 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: I've asked you about some pivotal games in Bengal's history, 549 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: the Freezer Bowl, the two Super Bowl appearances, etc. I'd 550 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: like you to reminisce about a few other games today. 551 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: December nineteen eighty nine Bengal sixty one, Oilers seven, the 552 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: day that Sam Weish ran up the score on Jerry Glanville, 553 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: including a field goal with twenty one seconds to go. 554 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: That was Sam. Sam and Jerry had sort of an 555 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: aversion for each other and it came to be that 556 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: we had the dominant team and Sam chose to rub 557 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: it in. That was his way of giving it to Jerry. Personally, 558 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: I'm not for that kind of thing. I think it 559 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: was wrong, but it was so long ago that I 560 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: had forgotten it, and I'm sorry that you had. November 561 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five, Monday Night Football's first visit to Cincinnati, 562 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: a showdown between Ken Anderson and O. J. Simpson. Ken 563 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: pass for four hundred and forty seven yards. OJ ran 564 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: for one ninety seven on seventeen carries. The Bengals win 565 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: the game thirty three to twenty four. It really was 566 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: a great game. Kenny Anderson's arm lasted longer than OJ's legs. 567 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: But they just ran one play sixteen eighteen. It was 568 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: an outside play. If you gave him the inside, they 569 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: took it. If you gave him the outside, they took it. 570 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: And they knew how to block it no matter what 571 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: you did, and they were good at it. But he 572 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: was a great runner. Yes, there's all this history. It 573 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: is enough to fill volumes about O. J. Simpson. But 574 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: during the day when he was a player, he was 575 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: a great player, and that game went back and forth. 576 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: We couldn't stop them. They couldn't stop us. OJ woredown. 577 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: We could keep going and we managed to win barely. 578 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: What do you think of Howard cose Hell. I have 579 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: a strange thing to say about Howard Coachell. At one 580 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: time there was a conference of newspaper editors in Cincinnati, 581 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: and Howard Coachell was the speaker, And somehow I wonder 582 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: why I got on the program two for a modest 583 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: comment or two before he did the main talk. And 584 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I remember I was probably sweating through my shirt in anxiety, 585 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: and I went up and I did my bit, and 586 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: he was very kind after I had stumbled through whatever 587 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: it was that I was talking about. He just said 588 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: something kind to me, and that wasn't the Howard Cosell 589 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the world remembers when they talk about Howard Cosell. But 590 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 1: that's my memory of Howard Cosell, and it has always 591 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: been part of how I think about him. September nineteen 592 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: sixty eight, first home games in Bengal's history and first 593 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: win in Bengal's history twenty four ten over Denver in 594 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: front of twenty five thousand fans at Nippert Stadium. We 595 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: started out in Knippert Stadium and it was really quite exciting. 596 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: I would have to tell you some of those games 597 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: have mel together over the years, but I have fond 598 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: memories of the games we played out there. The way 599 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: they handled new teams back then was to make it 600 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: as difficult on them as possible. We didn't have the players. 601 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: We would go out and fight and scrap, and occasionally 602 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: we would run into a team that we could manage 603 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: to hold our own. We came on quickly as a team. 604 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: We were in the playoffs in our third year, which 605 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: at that time was a world's record. Again, you had 606 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: to start without the allocation of players. That subsequent expansion 607 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: teams received, and I've always remembered those years fondly. I 608 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: think we were a well coached team. We just had 609 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: players that had to get up to it, and by 610 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: our third year we had enough that we could manage. 611 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: It was fun. Final thing, You're getting ready to start 612 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: a new season with a new head coach. What about 613 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor impresses you. He's a bright young guy. He's 614 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: dedicated coaching. He is offensive oriented. I like that. I 615 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: think my father was that way. I have never been 616 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: a coach, but I like to think in those terms, 617 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: and I focus on the offense first and foremost too. 618 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if we can get things 619 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: together and be the kind of team we want to be. 620 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: We'll see how quickly that can come about. But I 621 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: think Zach has write ingredients. Always enjoyed these conversations. Thank 622 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: you so much for your time. Well, it reminds me 623 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: of Sunday breakfast. I'm glad to be here too. We 624 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: need Lap him. Mike is absolutely right. If we could 625 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: turn those Sunday breakfasts where he and Lap share stories 626 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: about Bengals history into a radio show, it would be 627 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 1: a huge hit. That's going to do it for this 628 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: episode of the podcast. If you haven't done so already, 629 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: don't forget to subscribe on iTunes, stitch, your Google Play, 630 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: Spotify or pod Bean, and if you have a minute, 631 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: please give it a rating or leave a comment. Those 632 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: five star ratings help more Bengals fans find this podcast. 633 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Horde. Thanks for listening to The Bengals Booth podcast.